Makeing a plan HELP!!!

[BaronVonRoot]

ok 3 weeks ago I bought a 1989 Cherokee XJ
5 days after I bought it I put on a Rubicon express 5.5" long arm lift
10 days after i have 33x 12.5 pro comp Xterrain’s on her
I am looking for Dana 44s to build with lockers front and back (watching classifieds) I was told it had a 231 transfer case low and behold its a 242
so I am now looking to put a atlas in it with 4:1
Then started looking at what I am attaching the transfer too, I have a AW-4 automatic... have read nothing good on these!!! so started looking into a T 700r gm tranny what you think? is this a good idea? What do I need to do for a torque converter? Anyone know anything on doing this?
ok then I find a tranny for sale really cheep thin is its attached to a lt-1 corvette motor with the wiring harness and computer with 32000 original miles on it, but this is a high rpm motor... I do not want that for a rock crawler right?
i want a torque motor right?
so what I am thinking is doing the conversion to the 700 r keeping the stock 4.0 strait 6 with a atlas transfer....
ok then if i want go to a V-8 just a stock 350 but will this change the position of the tranny and will I have to re-do my drive shafts?


i have so many question anyone out there want to chat? Ill buy the Beer!!!
i am in scottsdale area Dan

[Allen]

Welcome!

Best of luck on your new
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One of the experts will chime up with an answer soon!

We got some smart dOOds in here! (somewhere):D

[Keith Haw]

Welcome to the Jeep world. What do you have against the AW4? They are good strong trannies. And you will probably find the 4.0L strong enough also, and they last forever if taken care of.
Keith

[azdesertrhino]

Welcome to AZVJC. You'll find a bunch of great people around here.

Since you bought an XJ, there are a couple of online sources for XJ information.

Also, Dave O at Desert Fab may be able to help with parts, Fab work etc.




http://www.naxja.org/forum/


http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/arizonaXJ/

[BaronVonRoot]

well i am not sure but when I read things like this I tend to want to build something very reliable
(They have a tendency to generate excessive amounts of heat, and are known for unnecessarily consuming more engine power than some other automatics. The shift points in the AW4 feel odd, and the spotty engagment of the lockup torque converter is idiosyncratic.

i dont want to do everything twice and if spending the money on a atlas do i want it fitting the AW-4? Dan

[Jdemonto@Airpark Jeep Sales]

Welcome


Jason

[YGOHOME]

well i am not sure but when I read things like this I tend to want to build something very reliable
(They have a tendency to generate excessive amounts of heat, and are known for unnecessarily consuming more engine power than some other automatics. The shift points in the AW4 feel odd, and the spotty engagment of the lockup torque converter is idiosyncratic.

i dont want to do everything twice and if spending the money on a atlas do i want it fitting the AW-4? Dan

I'd recommend giving Joe a call at Absolute Offroad. He's one of the sponsors here and is good with transmissions and recomendations.

[LKD TJ]

There are a lot of TJ owners that will pull their manual transmissions out to put in the AW-4. It is a strong transmission and there are ways to fix the shift problem. Check out Stu's site or if you have thick skin check out Pirate 4x4. They are both great resources and I think you will end up sticking with the AW-4. Oh and by the way, if you do can you let me know where you found that transmission engine combo as I am one of the ones that has a manual transmission and I would like to get rid of it.

Also, the two previously mentioned are great sources as well as 4 Wheeler's Supply and Truck Werks in Tempe. Jason at Truck Werks had a exo-skeleton XJ that was awesome!!

[BaronVonRoot]

ok thanks for some great info talked to joe and he told me some good info
going to a 231 transfer and putting the sye in and a 4:1, keeping the AW-4 forget the corvet moter need a 69 camaro for that project not this one!!!!
ok then its off to the axles want lockers but what one looking at OX lockers in front.... like the no wires or air to go wrong ... RECOMENDS?
what you guys like????????????
4 wheel parts has a deal on ARB package right now...
sticking with the dana 30 up front new axles etc... looking for a Dana 44 for back any sugestions where to find?
if i have a driveshaft made for a dana 35 when I switch to a dana 44 will there be problems or are they the same U joint? dan

[GRUNT]

Go to one of the sponsors here before 4wheelparts. 4WP has helped me before well with minor things but when I went in to get ARBs, Ring n Pinions, alloy axles, master kits, etc. (we are talking thousands in money + labor) they had me standing waiting 37 minutes until they helped me! BELIEVE ME I TIMED IT! I WAS FURIOUS!!!! Then when we talked about a price, it was no where near what they had advertised. The clerk said the codes were not in the computer so they could not give me that price listed in their very own "Offraod Adventures" mag. I was mad, getting lousy service, they manager was even half-arsing his attempt at helping the inept clerk. I left, was given a great deal with quality customer service from another shop. 4WP is good if you need individual items fast and Eathan his very helpful, I now go to 4wheel Supply, Absolute or DesertFab for work done.

[BaronVonRoot]

ok good to know.. thanks.. have a shop to do labor allready, its next door to my shop, so works out good!!! in fact guy handed me his keys so i can work nights on it... nice hes going to do installs with my help for cheep.. he needs woodwork, i need wrenching works out good, I just need recomandations on what parts I will definetly be comparing prices around before they get my cash what lockers is what I need most????? Dan

[BaronVonRoot]

Ok this is where I am at, I have added the RE 5.5 long arm lift, 33" pro comps, currie ent, heavy duty tie rod system, stearing box support, ARB lockers, 4:88s, superior heavy axles, 30 spline front, 33 back, rear disk brake conv, Klune under drive 2.7 and a 231 terra low 4.1 with the 2 low option, (Rumor had it ya didnt have crap if ya had only 2 shifters!) protofab front bumper with a warn 8000, rustys sliders for rocker protection, soon to come tom woods drive lines, proto fab rear bumper and a exo cage.
i get the Klune next week, so I can button up the transfers and measure for drivelines, and finish up the work on the axles, I was trying to be ready for MOAB in Nov dosnt look like Ill make it unless I quit my job!!! looking forward to getting in and driving this project usually in the Garage till 11:00 pm everynight See you guys soon Dan

[lancetkenyon]

You still got 2 weeks, hurry up!!!

[BaronVonRoot]

i wish waiting on the klune to deliver this week, have to modify the floor to install it then mesure for driveshafts from tom woods hook all the shifting up reinstall the seats and finish the axles and finish the wireing thats all lol

[lancetkenyon]

i wish waiting on the klune to deliver this week, have to modify the floor to install it then mesure for driveshafts from tom woods hook all the shifting up reinstall the seats and finish the axles and finish the wireing thats all lol

Sounds doable, like I said, you still have 2 weeks. Sleep and work are highly overrated.