What to bring to the trail?

[Jdemonto@Airpark Jeep Sales]

I remember my first jeep outing like it was yeserday! Was I prepared....nope...should I have been???? Not sure.... After attending the TDS Safari in Socal earlier this year, my eyes opened a bit.


First Aid kit
Fire extingisher
Snake bite kit
Strap or tow rope
Flash light (good batteries)
Water
Food even on a short trip....you never know what can happen


Really these are some basic items to bring, my list has grown and grown
Please feel free to chime in with any suggestions

[Wind_Danzer]

CB and antenna (I have a disconnect antenna and always seem to forget it).
Pig Pads and Peatsorb for clean ups.
Tow hooks if you have a strap. No need damaging the strap or Jeep components when you could've spent a few bucks on hooks.

[GRUNT]

I have a small tool box and a small rubbermaid tub with fluids and parts like u-joints, zip-ties, JB-weld. Oh yes, maps and GPS.
*** I always carry a little extra, had to JB weld someone elses radiator one time...

[azdesertrhino]

I tend to carry a lot of stuff on the trail. I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

Sunscreen

Tools to work on your rig

Don't go wheeling alone!!

[TomHatch]

Aside from food and water, a tire plug kit and a means to air up tires is a great place to start.

[Hunter]

The list forming here well have alot of the standard items. Jason's list is very basic, but more often than not, these items are forgotten. Get 'em!

From a search and rescue guy, here two simple, but often over looked lessons that I try to teach and preach.

1) Tell someone where you are going and when you should get back. It can save days for people coming to look for you. Tell a parent, a neighbor, a freind, someone on the Jeep club board. Where you are going and when you think you are coming back... This way, if you do have a major issue and are stuck, or broken down, help will come A LOT (days) faster.

2) Take Your Meds! More often than not, people need to have regular medication. Think of this scenario.... You are going to go on a quick day trip. You got your extra water and extra food. Even got your blankets and new cool guy flash light! Off you go up in the wild. On a whim, you and your spouse see a cool littel trail.. Then, something awful happens. Killed the battery, get stuck, Jeep breaks.... no worries you think. I told so and so where to find us, we have our extra food were OK... But you didnt bring your daily medication because it was supposed to be a day trip. Blood presure, heart medication, diabetic, asthma, ... you get it. If you take medication on a regular basis.... this should scare you. Dont let it happen.

These to items are so simple they are often over looked. But they can make all the difference.

[SavageSun4x4]

Spare Parts & Fluids:

16 gauge wire electrical
Assorted Fuses
Assorted Wire 12, 16 gauge
Axle fluid
Axle Shaft U-joints
Axle Shafts
Brake Clean
Brake Fluid
Brake Lines for front
Brake Lines for rear
Chamois
Coolant
Driveshaft u-joints
Engine Oil
Fan belts
Gear Oil
Grease, grease gun, wheel bearing grease
Hose clamps, assorted sizes
Hydro Hose repair kit
JB Weld
Jerry can(s) 5 gals water, fuel
Loctite
Long Spark Plug wire
Oil Filter
PEAT SORB, P.I.G. pads to absorb oil spills
Power Steering Fluid
Radiator fluid/antifreeze pre-mix
Radiator Hose repair kit
Radiator STOP LEAK "Bars Leaks" is excellent
RTV
Serpentine belt/fan belts
Solder
Spark Plugs
Starting Fluid
Tie Rod Ends and Heim Joints
Tire Repair Kit
Transmission fluid
Transmission Fluid
U-Joint Snap Rings
U-Joint Straps/U-bolts
Valve Cores
Valve Stems

Trail Tools:

1/2" Sockets and Ratchet
1/4" Sockets and Ratchet
12 point 1/2 inch socket for the unit bearing bolts
3/8" Sockets and Ratchet
36 MM socket for front axle hub bolt
AAA, AA, and C batteries
Allen Wrenches
Assorted Fasteners
Axe
Chains
Channel Locks
Chisels
Clevis/snatch block
Combination Wrenches
Come-a-long
Crescent Wrenches
Duct Tape
Electrical Repair Box
Electrical Tape
Entrenching tool, military
Extensions
Files
Flaring Tool
Flash Light
Fuel Cans
Funnel
Garbage Bags
Gear Oil Fill Spout
Grease Pencil
Hammer 24oz
Haynes Manual
Hi-lift Jack
Jumper Cables
Magic Marker
Magnet for Axle Removal
Multi-Meter
Needle Nose
Paper Towels
Pickle Fork
Pipe Wrench
Pry Bars
Punches
Rags
Ratchet Straps
Screw Driver with Interchangeable bits
Screw Drivers
Shovel
Small Hack Saw
Tape Measure
Tire Iron
Tire Pressure Gauge
Tire repair kit w/spare stems/valves
Tow strap
Tree Strap
Tubing Wrenches
Vice Grips
WD-40
Wire Brush
Zip Ties
Ziplock bags, assorted sizes to 1 gallon

Survival Kit Stuff:

Advil, Sudafed, Antihistamine "Benadryl", Maalox
Antiseptic "Sea Breeze"
Baby wipes
Bug Spray
Bungee Cords
Camera (Still and/or Video, spare batteries/charger, memory card/tapes)
Camp Heater
Can Opener, military "P-38"
Cell Phone and Charger
Change of clothes
Chap Stick
Compass
Ear Plugs
Emergency Blankets
Firearm and bullets
First Aid Kit
Food - Trail Mix, Jerky, dried Fruit, Bagels, canned stew, crackers, MRE’s, etc
FRS Radios
GPS
Hand Lotion, cleaner
Lighter
Maps (Topo maps)
Poncho & "Poncho" liner, military type
Ratchet Straps
Rope
Signal mirror
Snow/cold weather gear
Sun block
Sunglasses
Tarps
Toilet Paper
Water - purification tabs, filtering system
Waterproof Matches

Sources:

www.uscav.com military-survival gear
www.actiongear.com military-survival gear
www.dogtagsdirect.com dogtags w/ICE info

[TRobertsRN]

Wow, agree with all below, even made a copy to my desk top to keep handy, but where do you keep it all in a standard sized Jeep? I have a Willys Pickup or my XJ so more storage area in some ways. On some trips I also take my off road trailer made from a Studebaker pickup.

Would be very cool if someone made removable boxes like smaller versions of the construction site boxes I see to have all this prepacked in your garage ready for trips or just keep secured and locked in vehicle. Would also need a way to secure them in case of roll over.



Spare Parts & Fluids:

16 gauge wire electrical
Assorted Fuses
Assorted Wire 12, 16 gauge
Axle fluid
Axle Shaft U-joints
Axle Shafts
Brake Clean
Brake Fluid
Brake Lines for front
Brake Lines for rear
Chamois
Coolant
Driveshaft u-joints
Engine Oil
Fan belts
Gear Oil
Grease, grease gun, wheel bearing grease
Hose clamps, assorted sizes
Hydro Hose repair kit
JB Weld
Jerry can(s) 5 gals water, fuel
Loctite
Long Spark Plug wire
Oil Filter
PEAT SORB, P.I.G. pads to absorb oil spills
Power Steering Fluid
Radiator fluid/antifreeze pre-mix
Radiator Hose repair kit
Radiator STOP LEAK "Bars Leaks" is excellent
RTV
Serpentine belt/fan belts
Solder
Spark Plugs
Starting Fluid
Tie Rod Ends and Heim Joints
Tire Repair Kit
Transmission fluid
Transmission Fluid
U-Joint Snap Rings
U-Joint Straps/U-bolts
Valve Cores
Valve Stems

Trail Tools:

1/2" Sockets and Ratchet
1/4" Sockets and Ratchet
12 point 1/2 inch socket for the unit bearing bolts
3/8" Sockets and Ratchet
36 MM socket for front axle hub bolt
AAA, AA, and C batteries
Allen Wrenches
Assorted Fasteners
Axe
Chains
Channel Locks
Chisels
Clevis/snatch block
Combination Wrenches
Come-a-long
Crescent Wrenches
Duct Tape
Electrical Repair Box
Electrical Tape
Entrenching tool, military
Extensions
Files
Flaring Tool
Flash Light
Fuel Cans
Funnel
Garbage Bags
Gear Oil Fill Spout
Grease Pencil
Hammer 24oz
Haynes Manual
Hi-lift Jack
Jumper Cables
Magic Marker
Magnet for Axle Removal
Multi-Meter
Needle Nose
Paper Towels
Pickle Fork
Pipe Wrench
Pry Bars
Punches
Rags
Ratchet Straps
Screw Driver with Interchangeable bits
Screw Drivers
Shovel
Small Hack Saw
Tape Measure
Tire Iron
Tire Pressure Gauge
Tire repair kit w/spare stems/valves
Tow strap
Tree Strap
Tubing Wrenches
Vice Grips
WD-40
Wire Brush
Zip Ties
Ziplock bags, assorted sizes to 1 gallon

Survival Kit Stuff:

Advil, Sudafed, Antihistamine "Benadryl", Maalox
Antiseptic "Sea Breeze"
Baby wipes
Bug Spray
Bungee Cords
Camera (Still and/or Video, spare batteries/charger, memory card/tapes)
Camp Heater
Can Opener, military "P-38"
Cell Phone and Charger
Change of clothes
Chap Stick
Compass
Ear Plugs
Emergency Blankets
Firearm and bullets
First Aid Kit
Food - Trail Mix, Jerky, dried Fruit, Bagels, canned stew, crackers, MRE’s, etc
FRS Radios
GPS
Hand Lotion, cleaner
Lighter
Maps (Topo maps)
Poncho & "Poncho" liner, military type
Ratchet Straps
Rope
Signal mirror
Snow/cold weather gear
Sun block
Sunglasses
Tarps
Toilet Paper
Water - purification tabs, filtering system
Waterproof Matches

Sources:

www.uscav.com military-survival gear
www.actiongear.com military-survival gear
www.dogtagsdirect.com dogtags w/ICE info

[GLEN REAMS]

Good call on the oil filter. My rule of thumb for spare parts is if i broke it before carry a spare. So i have spare shafts oil filter ball joints all steering ***. nuts and bolts,tire, u-joints

[Hunter]

Rubbermaid makes some very nice containers. Also, ammo cans can be great and cheap. Heavy, but they take a beating.

[SavageSun4x4]

Wow, agree with all below, even made a copy to my desk top to keep handy, but where do you keep it all in a standard sized Jeep?

I have the list in MS EXCEL for anyone who wants it. Send me an e mail: savagesun4x4@mac.com and I will send it too you.

Mostly you cannot carry everything. So the length of the trip, trails expected to run and who you are traveling with become important.

If a bunch of us are meeting at TM for a Sat afternoon of Jeep beating and its Aug then it one call. If its a week long trip to the Rubicon trail and its Mar then its another call. If its you and a Jeeping buddy or you and the entire AZVJC then its another call.

You got a good Jeep and have done a lot of work on it, but just have not replaced the D35 rear axle and history has told you than every other wheeling trip you snap an axle.

Or like my buddy who has a well built CJ but he WOULD NOT drive to the 7-11 Store without carrying his "u-joint bag". 6 COMPLETE sets of u joints, straps and bolts along with the tools to repair. I have wheeled all over Moab with him and the only thing that CJ has broke is rear driveshaft u joints...often:D

[amber.hodge]

Also, a Ham radio will help when you are out of CB range.
Remember to have d shackels and tow hooks on your rig....remember to bring extra bolts (we've seen them go out on trails even CK).....if not mentioned above (didn't see it) tie rods/ pitman arms....have seen those break too...

Obviously this list will overwhelm the noobs, so I would suggest a simple fix: NEVER GO OUT ALONE EVEN IF YOU ARE GOING ON A STOCK/PLEASURE CRUISE - THAT IS WHAT WE WERE ON WHEN WE SUNK OURSELVES IN THE GILA RIVER!:D When you have a group, someone will inevitably have what you need or the knowledge to make do with what is available! :D

[Turtle]

I must say... these are all great ideas! However I don't ever carry ALL that stuff... I like to keep it simple... I let all the other good people keep all the tools and spare parts and I just borrow when needed :) J/K.

Really I like to keep it simple... the 2 things i think are VERY important to have with you on the trail at all times would be a spare tire and my personal favorite... A cooler full of nice cold CERVEZA!!

I don't recomment anyone wheelin' without it! I know we keep a full cooler with us at all times!

TUUUUUUUUUUUUURTLEE

[amber.hodge]

Beer and noob wheeling should never be combined....safety is not drinking when on a new trail...MHO

We don't even drink when on a trail we are familiarized with - it isn't very safe nor is it a very responsible or wise decision...I cannot think of more dangerous or dumber trail advice to give to a noob.

[Wzzl13]

Sorry all, I'm lazy so I didn't read everyone's post. How about this one though... Toilet paper 'cause ya never know....

[GRUNT]

Yes, YES! Toilet paper is a good call... I also find it handy to carry a squad of Marines and a current list of freqs for close air support. Come on, you don't know what you're gonna find on CK or in FJ...(j/k, obviously)

[ORIGoodyear]

top off your gas tank before you go, lo range uses alot more fuel:D

[TRobertsRN]

Sorry all, I'm lazy so I didn't read everyone's post. How about this one though... Toilet paper 'cause ya never know....

Not just toliet paper, but toilet paper in a zip lock bag if you are headed to the dunes.

Sandy paper no fun, don't ask :eek:

Also good choice that fits in the pocket is the little packets of nose blow to use as toliet paper.

Any for those mornings that you did have too much cervesa, nothing beats a wet wipe.

[desertrubi]

Keep a roll of toilet and a box of baby wipes in my wheeling box.

I use a rubber maid box and ratchet strap around it to keep it closed and another ratchet to tie it down in the back incase of roll over.

[terron gregg]

i may not carry everything i should but bring to much water you can never have enough basic tools extra clothing the list goes on but remember were in the desert youd be surprised how many peopl i see not bringing water during the summer

[ArizonaXJ]

I carry what ever I broke before......lesson learned......As for where to put everything???? Well, I carry a lot of stuff sealed in food saver vaccum bags. I have a full spare set of clothing and two towls in my "in case of emergency" bag in addition to a lot of other stuff...may seem like they take up excess space but in the vaccum bags, they take up about a 1/4 of what they normally need.
Since I am CLS (combat life saver qualified) I even carry some of those things with me, I.Vs sam splint, misc bandages, and stuff
I say go with Don's list and adjust accordingly for your rig and like Hunter said.....don't forget the meds. They make crush proof water tight pill boxes that go on a key chain and sell them at Walgreens. I always carry a mix of tylonol and motrin in there.

[TRLR8TDTJ]

I bring matches and extra gas and cell phone. If it gets bad enough light it on fire and call for ride home.:)

Kyle

[amber.hodge]

Kyle - you want to start the next rodeo-chedesky? :D silly pyro!

[macinyart]

Spare Parts & Fluids:

16 gauge wire electrical
Assorted Fuses
Assorted Wire 12, 16 gauge
Axle fluid
Axle Shaft U-joints
Axle Shafts
Brake Clean
Brake Fluid
Brake Lines for front
Brake Lines for rear
Chamois
Coolant
Driveshaft u-joints
Engine Oil
Fan belts
Gear Oil
Grease, grease gun, wheel bearing grease
Hose clamps, assorted sizes
Hydro Hose repair kit
JB Weld
Jerry can(s) 5 gals water, fuel
Loctite
Long Spark Plug wire
Oil Filter
PEAT SORB, P.I.G. pads to absorb oil spills
Power Steering Fluid
Radiator fluid/antifreeze pre-mix
Radiator Hose repair kit
Radiator STOP LEAK "Bars Leaks" is excellent
RTV
Serpentine belt/fan belts
Solder
Spark Plugs
Starting Fluid
Tie Rod Ends and Heim Joints
Tire Repair Kit
Transmission fluid
Transmission Fluid
U-Joint Snap Rings
U-Joint Straps/U-bolts
Valve Cores
Valve Stems

Trail Tools:

1/2" Sockets and Ratchet
1/4" Sockets and Ratchet
12 point 1/2 inch socket for the unit bearing bolts
3/8" Sockets and Ratchet
36 MM socket for front axle hub bolt
AAA, AA, and C batteries
Allen Wrenches
Assorted Fasteners
Axe
Chains
Channel Locks
Chisels
Clevis/snatch block
Combination Wrenches
Come-a-long
Crescent Wrenches
Duct Tape
Electrical Repair Box
Electrical Tape
Entrenching tool, military
Extensions
Files
Flaring Tool
Flash Light
Fuel Cans
Funnel
Garbage Bags
Gear Oil Fill Spout
Grease Pencil
Hammer 24oz
Haynes Manual
Hi-lift Jack
Jumper Cables
Magic Marker
Magnet for Axle Removal
Multi-Meter
Needle Nose
Paper Towels
Pickle Fork
Pipe Wrench
Pry Bars
Punches
Rags
Ratchet Straps
Screw Driver with Interchangeable bits
Screw Drivers
Shovel
Small Hack Saw
Tape Measure
Tire Iron
Tire Pressure Gauge
Tire repair kit w/spare stems/valves
Tow strap
Tree Strap
Tubing Wrenches
Vice Grips
WD-40
Wire Brush
Zip Ties
Ziplock bags, assorted sizes to 1 gallon

Survival Kit Stuff:

Advil, Sudafed, Antihistamine "Benadryl", Maalox
Antiseptic "Sea Breeze"
Baby wipes
Bug Spray
Bungee Cords
Camera (Still and/or Video, spare batteries/charger, memory card/tapes)
Camp Heater
Can Opener, military "P-38"
Cell Phone and Charger
Change of clothes
Chap Stick
Compass
Ear Plugs
Emergency Blankets
Firearm and bullets
First Aid Kit
Food - Trail Mix, Jerky, dried Fruit, Bagels, canned stew, crackers, MRE’s, etc
FRS Radios
GPS
Hand Lotion, cleaner
Lighter
Maps (Topo maps)
Poncho & "Poncho" liner, military type
Ratchet Straps
Rope
Signal mirror
Snow/cold weather gear
Sun block
Sunglasses
Tarps
Toilet Paper
Water - purification tabs, filtering system
Waterproof Matches

Sources:

www.uscav.com military-survival gear
www.actiongear.com military-survival gear
www.dogtagsdirect.com dogtags w/ICE info

Don,
Respectfully it appears that you have been around long enough and broken enough stuff to have developed a list like this. J/K :D I don't have room in my YJ for this amount of equipement. But I do carry some stuff that I think might be useful. For the "noobier than me", don't go alone is good advice, start on the easy trails till you get used to what your jeep can do (mine was able to do more than I thought it would), carry a reasonable tool box (you can find a hundred definitions of reasonable on here if you ask), so you can loan tools to someone till you need it, a tow strap is always good and doesn't take up much space, don't go alone, check your jeep over before you go ( I lie down under mine and go over it with a rubber hammer to see if I can find anything loose), if it won't stand up to an old guy with a rubber hammer, it won't stand up to a rock, Look for scuff marks from the last trip and check those areas over closely, (You checked the jeep carefully after the last trip didn't you?), Same method, rubber hammer and eyeballs. Check the tires for scuffs and tears, don't go alone, and here is a deal. PM me after November, I will go with you if it is at all geographically possible. There are some trails in the Butcher Jones area (See Glen Reams about this area too) that are fun and won't kill a stock jeep but will give some experience to allow you to learn what you can, can't and shouldn't do, did I say don't go alone? Good luck and welcome to the group.

[Jdemonto@Airpark Jeep Sales]

Good job with the list..just remember this is a thread for brand new jeepers and a simple and realistic list would be fine for the space and experience they have.

Jason

[06TJWRANGLER]

A welder if you have one, if not JB Weld works fine for a day?:confused: Lol:D

[YGOHOME]

...if not mentioned above (didn't see it) tie rods/ pitman arms....have seen those break too...




tie rods are probably the most common things to get banged or busted other than tires. You can get stock spare steering for free or a very low price from some of our sponsors "take off" bins.

also handy is a 4 lb hammer to get the tie rod ends off the knuckles. A pickle fork is good too but unecessary if you know how to use the hammer.

And also, as mentioned, a pitman arm. I just picked one up today from 4 Wheelers since I've read on here of 2 jeeps breaking theirs recently.

I just need to get a puller now though so I can remove the pitman arm if I need to.

[Tom Jacobson]

Amber -

The beer wasn't for Turtle to drink. It can be used to bribe others to fix your Jeep for you when you don't have a small trailer to bring everything on Don's list!

[jeff krause]

'Select' works for my help...... Heck I'd help regardless :)

[SavageSun4x4]

Amber -

when you don't have a small trailer to bring everything on Don's list!
Small? Heck I get it all in my rolling trailer on the back of my tractor rig...all 18 wheels ;):D

[GRUNT]

HEY YGOHOME!!!!!... I have a pickle fork. If you have the spare arm then lets ride close to eachother and share if needed, right?! :D

[danno]

A few things that I usually don't leave home without....

1.) Some Steel reinforced Epoxy Plummer's putty... Seals gas tanks, oil pans and other leaky things. Comes in a tube... Just cut off however much you need and mash it together. This can also substitute for JB weld.

2.) A small ratchet strap or two... These have come in handy for all kinds of stuff.

3.) Vise Grips... 2 or 3 pairs.

4.) A roll of bailing wire.

[MitchRonda]

I didnot see shovel any where...M...

[TRLR8TDTJ]

I didnot see shovel any where...M...

We dont all take a horse with us, no need for shovel:):)

Kyle

[MitchRonda]

I dont have a winch,but I DO have a harness...

[SavageSun4x4]

I didnot see shovel any where...M...

Its on the list ;) If ANYONE would like to add something ,PLEASE TELL ME, I will be happy to add it...its a work in progress [THANKS to ALL who have made contributions to this latest version]. If anyone wants this in MS Excel, shoot me a e mail: savagesun4x4@mac.com

Tickler list for off roading, carry based upon YOUR rig, length of time, # on the ride, weather and trail conditions
Purpose of the list is to 'tickle' and make you think about what to/what not to carry

Spare Parts & Fluids Notes
Axle fluid
Axle Shafts
Axle-Drive Shafts
Brake Clean
Brake Fluid
Brake Lines for front
Brake Lines for rear
Chamois Will filter gas from water
Drag link
Electrical Wire 12, 16 gauge
Engine Oil
Epoxy, Steel reinforced: "Pro Poxy 20 Epoxy Putty" seals gas tanks etc www.accentshopping.com
Fuses, electrical assorted
Gear Oil
Grease, grease gun, wheel bearing grease
Hose clamps, assorted sizes
Hydro Hose repair kit
JB Weld
Jerry can(s) 5 gals water, fuel 1 gal H20 per person/day in desert
Loctite
Spark Plug wire
Oil Filter
PB Blaster Losen rusted-frozen parts
PEAT SORB, P.I.G. pads to absorb oil spills
Pittman arm
Power Steering Fluid
Radiator fluid/antifreeze pre-mix
Radiator Hose repair kit
Radiator STOP LEAK "Bars Leaks" is excellent www.barsproducts.com/
RTV "Automotive Goop"
Serpentine belt/fan belts Replace your now and use old for spare
Solder
Spark Plug wire
Spark Plugs
Starting Fluid
Tie rod
Tie Rod Ends and Heim Joints
Tire Repair Kit
Transmission Fluid
U-Joint Snap Rings
U-Joint Straps/U-bolts kits
U-joints, drive shafts axles
Valve Cores
Valve Stems
WD-40 WD=Water Displacement, dry out electrical

Trail-Jeep Tools
1/2" Sockets and Ratchet Metric/SAE
1/4" Sockets and Ratchet Metric/SAE
12 point 1/2 inch socket for the unit bearing bolts
3/8" Sockets and Ratchet Metric/SAE
36 MM socket for front axle hub bolt
AAA, AA, C and D batteries Spares for radios, camera, flashlights
Allen Wrenches Metric/SAE
Assorted Fasteners, washers, common nuts, bolts
Axe or Woodman's Pal www.woodmanspal.com/
Chains
Channel Locks
Chisels
Clevis/snatch block
Combination Wrenches
Come-a-long
Crescent Wrenches
Duct Tape
Electrical Repair Box
Electrical Tape
Entrenching tool, military
Extensions for ratchets
Files
Flaring Tool
Flash Light(s) www.surefire.com/
Fuel Cans 5 gal Jerry
Funnel
Garbage Bags
Gear Oil Fill Spout
Grease Pencil
Hack Saw w/spare blades, metal cutting
Hammer 24oz, 4 lb, and Rubber
Haynes Manual
Hi-lift Jack
Jumper Cables
Magic Marker
Magnet on telescoping extension Axle remove, parts finder
Multi-Meter
Needle Nose pliers
On board Air supply
On board welder
Paper Towels
Pickle Fork
Pipe Wrench
Propane torch
Pry Bars
Punches
Rags
Ratchet Straps
Screw Driver with Interchangeable bits
Shovel "D" handle and or folding military issue
Tape Measure
Tire Iron
Tire Pressure Gauge
Tire repair kit w/spare stems/valves
Torx & Safety Torx sets
Tow strap
Tree Strap
Tubing Wrenches
Vice Grips 2 pair
Wire Brush
Zip Ties assorted lengths UV resistant
Ziploc bags, assorted sizes to 1 gallon

Survival Kit
Advil, Sudafed, Antihistamine "Benadryl", Maalox
Antiseptic "Sea Breeze"
Baby wipes
Bucket hat
Bug Spray
Bungee Cords
Camera (Still and/or Video, spare batteries/charger, memory card/tapes)
Camp Heater
Can Opener, military "P-38"
Cell Phone and Charger
Change of clothes
Chap Stick
Collapsible bucket Hauling water
Compass
Dog tags w/ICE and medical info on them www.dogtagsdirect.com
Ear Plugs
Emergency Blankets
Firearm and bullets
First Aid Kit
Food - Trail Mix, Jerky, dried Fruit, Bagels, canned stew, crackers, MRE’s, etc
FRS - HAM - CB Radios
GPS
Hand Lotion, cleaner
Knives - Leatherman tool, Swiss army, fixed blade hunting w/ sharpener http://www.worldknives.com/
Lighter
Maps Topo
Poncho & "Poncho" liner, military type
Ratchet Straps
Rope
Signal mirror
Snow/cold weather gear
Smoke bombs or grenades "Pop smoke" for life saving helicopter
Sun block
Sunglasses
Tarps
Toilet Paper
Water purification tabs, filtering system
Waterproof Matches
Whistle, extra loud safety or police

Sources
Dog Tags w/"ICE" info
Military-Survival-Camping gear www.actiongear.com
Military-Survival-Clothing gear www.uscav.com

[YJunk]

I didn't see a kitchen sink listed :)

Is there a spare tire in that list... my eyes started to water half way down. Im not sure where you would put the tire... but you might want one; all that weight and you're definatly going to blow one on the trail.

What kind of Jeep are you guys wheeling anyway... Must be one of those seven passenger things to carry all of that.

[YJunk]

A few things that I usually don't leave home without....

1.) Some Steel reinforced Epoxy Plummer's putty... Seals gas tanks, oil pans and other leaky things. Comes in a tube... Just cut off however much you need and mash it together. This can also substitute for JB weld.

2.) A small ratchet strap or two... These have come in handy for all kinds of stuff.

3.) Vise Grips... 2 or 3 pairs.

4.) A roll of bailing wire.

Definatly x2 on the ratchet straps...

I've used them to secure a spring to the frame after a shackle mount was ripped off and to pull a front axle back (conected the other end to the belly skid) to align a spring with a hanger...

vice grips are a good call as well... you'll need them to stop the break fluid from running out of your break line after I try to stack my junk on your front tire... bring some zip ties to secure the vise grip to something as well.

[Mike McGreevy]

Depends on where u r heading....I am always going out where cells dont work and where I hopefully will not see another living person the hole trip... So I bring my ham gear, a pistol and a high power rifle. Along with my survival back pack so if I have to walk out... oya lots of water, I bring 5 gals for the jeep and 2 gals for each day I am going to be gone, per person.... This is my min. I bring not to forget the tols spair parts maps gps..ect....
Mike

[p14175]

Know local laws and regulations, including which roads and trails are open for 4-wheeling. Know where you are.

Handy Hints:
Water retention basins, vacant lots and construction sites are normally not open for 4-wheeling.
Indian Reservations and Military Reservations usually require permits
Arizona State Trust Land requires a permit.

Check the weather before heading out. Many backcountry roads and trails become impassable after a thunderstorm.

[GRUNT]

YJunk, my eyes were watering reading Savage's list too when I saw your comment. Hilarious!!!!

Mike, HAM gear? Why on earth would you need a pig on the trail? j/k
I would like to get a HAM radio and class but do not know where to start....

[06TJWRANGLER]

Another thing is "D" Batteries for your Mag Flash Light always good to bring extra.:D

[azdesertrhino]

A good place to start your research.


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YJunk, my eyes were watering reading Savage's list too when I saw your comment. Hilarious!!!!

Mike, HAM gear? Why on earth would you need a pig on the trail? j/k
I would like to get a HAM radio and class but do not know where to start....

[tomfooshee]

The list forming here well have alot of the standard items. Jason's list is very basic, but more often than not, these items are forgotten. Get 'em!

From a search and rescue guy, here two simple, but often over looked lessons that I try to teach and preach.

1) Tell someone where you are going and when you should get back. It can save days for people coming to look for you. Tell a parent, a neighbor, a freind, someone on the Jeep club board. Where you are going and when you think you are coming back... This way, if you do have a major issue and are stuck, or broken down, help will come A LOT (days) faster.

2) Take Your Meds! More often than not, people need to have regular medication. Think of this scenario.... You are going to go on a quick day trip. You got your extra water and extra food. Even got your blankets and new cool guy flash light! Off you go up in the wild. On a whim, you and your spouse see a cool littel trail.. Then, something awful happens. Killed the battery, get stuck, Jeep breaks.... no worries you think. I told so and so where to find us, we have our extra food were OK... But you didnt bring your daily medication because it was supposed to be a day trip. Blood presure, heart medication, diabetic, asthma, ... you get it. If you take medication on a regular basis.... this should scare you. Dont let it happen.

These to items are so simple they are often over looked. But they can make all the difference.

X2 John. In search and rescue TIME is the factor. Wheather can kill. Don't try to walk out. It's easier to see a Jeep than a person. You can be found in the hasty search rather than having to track you down. Go to the surplus store and get some MRE's for your survival kit. Plenty of water. Like John said tell someone where you are going, vehicle make and description, and what time to call the sheriff if they don't hear from you.

[lancetkenyon]

2 most important things....water and another Jeep. NEVER go alone!

[Triple-XJ]

I must say... these are all great ideas! However I don't ever carry ALL that stuff... I like to keep it simple... I let all the other good people keep all the tools and spare parts and I just borrow when needed :) J/K.

Really I like to keep it simple... the 2 things i think are VERY important to have with you on the trail at all times would be a spare tire and my personal favorite... A cooler full of nice cold CERVEZA!!

I don't recomment anyone wheelin' without it! I know we keep a full cooler with us at all times!

TUUUUUUUUUUUUURTLEE

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Beer is a necessity for exbeerienced and seasond offroaders ONLY :cool:

noobe's shold stick to water and juice ;)

[rubicontrail]

Where do you get snake bite kits from? Found a couple of places that had them online... but would like to find a local place that has them.

[Triple-XJ]

Where do you get snake bite kits from? Found a couple of places that had them online... but would like to find a local place that has them.

Man, its been years, but I use to get them at just the regular department store with camping section (Yellow Front and K-mart).
Good luck finding a Yellow Front :eek: lol

Try a search here, if I remeber there was alot of past discussion on the kits.

[Mike H.]

I've been thru the entire post...
I wish to comment that the military issue shovel is good if you do not have to really shovel, really pick, or really chop/cut. I am not impressed with them at all.
I've been in a situation where that was all that was available, and, while we made do, it was in no way efficient at doing anything, and, need thrown out before we were completely extracted. For a hiker, or infantry man, it may well do fine, but for vehicle extraction it was not much more than a frustration.
I would strongly recommend (and I carry) a real shovel(cut down in length if need be), a real axe, a real bow saw and a real pick.
If you ever really need to use these items, you will be much more efficient(say, a couple hours extraction rather than working thru the entire night) with the real items, and not be buying a replacement come Monday.

That has been my experience.

[SavageSun4x4]

I've been thru the entire post...
I wish to comment that the military issue shovel is good if you do not have to really shovel, really pick, or really chop/cut. I am not impressed with them at all.
I've been in a situation where that was all that was available, and, while we made do, it was in no way efficient at doing anything, and, need thrown out before we were completely extracted. For a hiker, or infantry man, it may well do fine, but for vehicle extraction it was not much more than a frustration.
I would strongly recommend (and I carry) a real shovel(cut down in length if need be), a real axe, a real bow saw and a real pick.
If you ever really need to use these items, you will be much more efficient(say, a couple hours extraction rather than working thru the entire night) with the real items, and not be buying a replacement come Monday.

That has been my experience.
Clearly you have never carried a shovel on your back for about 25 miles, dug a foxhole and filled sandbags when you got there.

The military shovel is lightweight, strong, sturdy and has filled a Million sandbags from Vietnam to Iraq and a lot of places in between.

That said given the choice of filling a sandbag with a US issue shovel and a full size TruTemper I will take the TruTemper...unless you have to carry it on your back.

But then your choice in shovels is worthless as compared to say a Bobcat, which of course is worthless compared to a D7 Cat.

DUH when making comparisons, compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges.:banghead:

[CaptainMorgan]

I've been thru the entire post...
I wish to comment that the military issue shovel is good if you do not have to really shovel, really pick, or really chop/cut. I am not impressed with them at all.
I've been in a situation where that was all that was available, and, while we made do, it was in no way efficient at doing anything, and, need thrown out before we were completely extracted. For a hiker, or infantry man, it may well do fine, but for vehicle extraction it was not much more than a frustration.
I would strongly recommend (and I carry) a real shovel(cut down in length if need be), a real axe, a real bow saw and a real pick.
If you ever really need to use these items, you will be much more efficient(say, a couple hours extraction rather than working thru the entire night) with the real items, and not be buying a replacement come Monday.

That has been my experience.


I dug a Tacoma out of 3 ft of snow with a funnel and a sandal...I wish I had a military shovel that day.

[Mike H.]

You guys are funy.
I specifically said in my post, that for a hiker or an infantry man they may well do fine... so, yes, I do understand their intended purpose.
I'm not quite sure how a bob cat is going to fit into a typical civilian jeep... so, the apples to apples deal I believe was accurate when comparing real tools that 'will' fit in your rig to the fold up shovel.
Digging a rig outta 3' of snow... I assume you had to clear underneath the vehicle, as, typically getting stuck in snow means the vehicle has rode up and packed snow under the entire rig. The military shovel would require you insert a portion of your upper body and head under the vehicle to clear the packed snow. Not the best predicamant in my opinion... but certainly better than where a sandal would leave you I guess.

[Sedona Jeep School]

Where do you get snake bite kits from? Found a couple of places that had them online... but would like to find a local place that has them.

Snake bite kits are so 70's. They no longer recommend the cut and suck method (wow--THAT opens up a whole different discussion! ;D ) The current recommended first aid for a snake bite is to keep the victim quiet and get him to medical attention asap. If you can, identify the snake too.

Any medics on the board that can comment further?

[WalterD]

Make sure whatever you decide to pack that it is secure. Because if you decide to flop or roll you don't want that stuff to come crashing down on you. Would suck to have that shovel implanted in the back of your skull.

[Duality]

I bring:

2 gallons of water (one for drinking, one for radiator)
plenty of food for 2 days
lots of soda
extra clothes for 2 days
hatchet
knives
sunscreen because I'm too damn white
sunglasses
guns with plenty of ammunition
GPS
Silicon RTB Blue because you never know what hose you might break.

I think that is about it, maybe more.

[4 Wheelers Supply]

TTT for the few people that have not seen this. We also stock lots of recovery equipment listed.
:)
Spare Parts & Fluids:

16 gauge wire electrical
Assorted Fuses
Assorted Wire 12, 16 gauge
Axle fluid
Axle Shaft U-joints
Axle Shafts
Brake Clean
Brake Fluid
Brake Lines for front
Brake Lines for rear
Chamois
Coolant
Driveshaft u-joints
Engine Oil
Fan belts
Gear Oil
Grease, grease gun, wheel bearing grease
Hose clamps, assorted sizes
Hydro Hose repair kit
JB Weld
Jerry can(s) 5 gals water, fuel
Loctite
Long Spark Plug wire
Oil Filter
PEAT SORB, P.I.G. pads to absorb oil spills
Power Steering Fluid
Radiator fluid/antifreeze pre-mix
Radiator Hose repair kit
Radiator STOP LEAK "Bars Leaks" is excellent
RTV
Serpentine belt/fan belts
Solder
Spark Plugs
Starting Fluid
Tie Rod Ends and Heim Joints
Tire Repair Kit
Transmission fluid
Transmission Fluid
U-Joint Snap Rings
U-Joint Straps/U-bolts
Valve Cores
Valve Stems

Trail Tools:

1/2" Sockets and Ratchet
1/4" Sockets and Ratchet
12 point 1/2 inch socket for the unit bearing bolts
3/8" Sockets and Ratchet
36 MM socket for front axle hub bolt
AAA, AA, and C batteries
Allen Wrenches
Assorted Fasteners
Axe
Chains
Channel Locks
Chisels
Clevis/snatch block
Combination Wrenches
Come-a-long
Crescent Wrenches
Duct Tape
Electrical Repair Box
Electrical Tape
Entrenching tool, military
Extensions
Files
Flaring Tool
Flash Light
Fuel Cans
Funnel
Garbage Bags
Gear Oil Fill Spout
Grease Pencil
Hammer 24oz
Haynes Manual
Hi-lift Jack
Jumper Cables
Magic Marker
Magnet for Axle Removal
Multi-Meter
Needle Nose
Paper Towels
Pickle Fork
Pipe Wrench
Pry Bars
Punches
Rags
Ratchet Straps
Screw Driver with Interchangeable bits
Screw Drivers
Shovel
Small Hack Saw
Tape Measure
Tire Iron
Tire Pressure Gauge
Tire repair kit w/spare stems/valves
Tow strap
Tree Strap
Tubing Wrenches
Vice Grips
WD-40
Wire Brush
Zip Ties
Ziplock bags, assorted sizes to 1 gallon

Survival Kit Stuff:

Advil, Sudafed, Antihistamine "Benadryl", Maalox
Antiseptic "Sea Breeze"
Baby wipes
Bug Spray
Bungee Cords
Camera (Still and/or Video, spare batteries/charger, memory card/tapes)
Camp Heater
Can Opener, military "P-38"
Cell Phone and Charger
Change of clothes
Chap Stick
Compass
Ear Plugs
Emergency Blankets
Firearm and bullets
First Aid Kit
Food - Trail Mix, Jerky, dried Fruit, Bagels, canned stew, crackers, MRE’s, etc
FRS Radios
GPS
Hand Lotion, cleaner
Lighter
Maps (Topo maps)
Poncho & "Poncho" liner, military type
Ratchet Straps
Rope
Signal mirror
Snow/cold weather gear
Sun block
Sunglasses
Tarps
Toilet Paper
Water - purification tabs, filtering system
Waterproof Matches

Sources:

www.uscav.com military-survival gear
www.actiongear.com military-survival gear
www.dogtagsdirect.com dogtags w/ICE info

[SavageSun4x4]

TTT for the few people that have not seen this. We also stock lots of recovery equipment listed.
:)
Got this the list available as a download from my site in MS Excel: http://www.savagesun4x4.com/down-loadable_files.html

and you can view it here if you want to just look and not download: http://www.savagesun4x4.com/trail_survival_part_i.html