East Side Meet~n~Greet!

[Allen]

East Side Meet~n~Greet!
August 12th. 5pm
San Tan Flat - where Elsworth turns into Hunt!

By request I decided to put together a meet-n-greet for the folks way out here on the far east side! Anyone from the west side can also come.... in fact you could come wheeling in FJ that day and stay for the MnG!

Update:

I've added a morning wheeling trip for those who can make it!

Meet @ Price Rd 8am to wheel Martinez Canyon Loop (http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/showthread.php?t=13822) rated @3.5

http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5796&d=1148360896

if time (number of rigs) permits, up Ajax, down The Woodpeckers... if running long ~ just down Lower Woodpecker and out Cottonwood.

Then on to San Tan Flat!

[BamBam]

Sounds good. Lot's of Jeepers on the East side...

[Papa Mo]

Nothing is ever close to me :( I will try to make it.

[cross_007]

I'm on the east side...and would like to do a meet and greet since I am new to the community...any chance of us getting together on a Saturday? :D

[Allen]

For you guys that never heard of the place...

http://www.santanflat.com/

[Pac8541]

I voted for wheeling followed by cold beer but honestly, it depends on the run. Regardless, we'll be there afterwards unless some unforeseen catastrophe occurs.

[06TJWRANGLER]

Depends how far east, I might come by!
http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/basic/drinks.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

6185 W. Hunt Hwy
Queen Creek, AZ 85242
Phone: 480-882-2995

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Ummm yeah I will have to see what im doing before I do the drive!! :D

[Fire Ball]

Man I'm far east valley and that is still an hour drive from here :D

I think the 12th I'm off but won't know till I get home and check my August schedule.

[amber.hodge]

That's not an hour, Bill! Just take Ironwood down to Ocotillo and turn right then turn left on Ellsworth....then after that turns into the Hunt HWY it is on the right....about 1/2 hour by that route because you miss the cluster going down ellsworth between Germann and Ocotillo.


We'd like to go....can't go wheeling first because I think we are going to try to do some sidework that morning. How kid friendly is this meet and greet going to be, as we'll have a 5.5 year old in tow....

[Allen]

This place loves kids!

[Cave Gimp]

Cool, we shoudl be bring our 7 month old.

[KennethS]

deleted

[Easyover]

This place loves kids!

My girls love that place, at least when it's cooler and they can roast marshmallows!

I'm gonna try and make it.

[Pac8541]

My girls love that place, at least when it's cooler and they can roast marshmallows!

I'm gonna try and make it.

Easyover, can you bring the 95 YJ?? I'll be doing a SOA on mine and would like to look at one close up.

[RokNRich]

Flying Sunday............

Cool place, good idea. I'll try and catch the next one.

Rich

[kemolewis]

I should be able to make it as I am only about 10 min from there, not sure about wheeling before hand but will be there for the party.

[Easyover]

Easyover, can you bring the 95 YJ?? I'll be doing a SOA on mine and would like to look at one close up.


Yes, I'll be out in the YJ.

[KGB]

Im in the QC hood already. Ill be there

[WalterD]

How about having an Eastside M&G on the West side? Come on, you can be a trend setter. When was the last time you had a Eastside meet on the Westside? What time zone are you in over there? Me and the wife will try to make it.
Walter

[jporvaz]

I'd like to but I'll be in Prescott. Have to catch the next one. Neat idea, Allen

[GRUNT]

5 minutes from my house, will be there. Studying for medic exam so no wheel before the M&G.

[azcharlie]

It's kinda far for me but I should be able to make it.:rolleyes:

[amber.hodge]

Ben is saying he thinks his drill weekend is on the weekend of the 12th. If that is the case, I'll be staying in....cleaning the house or some other wifely duty...manning the fort with the 5 year old...

[terron gregg]

hey im up for a meet and greet met a few good folks here wouldn't mind meeting some more what trail was everybody thinking about running

[desertangel]

Not going to post up yet but I might be able to make this.

[amber.hodge]

We're going to host one as soon as the loan closes at our home....Ben wanted to have all the jeepers over and do beer/soda/hot wings/ribs for a meet and greet in northwest queen creek.

[Texas]

I'll be in Chicago! Can we have everyone change dates so I can make it? :)

Next time!

[Fire Ball]

Anyone bringing their wives and girlfriends who like to go wheeling but would rather talk about something other than jeeps all night :D I think Carrie and I might make it but she doesn't QUITE share my interest in all things off road :D

[corbas]

I'm in.

[Cave Gimp]

It's kinda far for me but I should be able to make it.:rolleyes:

Thats a huge drive for you, are you sure your junk will be able to make it. :rolleyes:

FireBall - If we make my wife and 7 month daughter will be there. I'm sure my wife would perfer a conversation about something other than jeeps, so your wife should be good.

[Fire Ball]

Actually my wife would have a blast with the kids.

[pldamian]

I will be there for sure, but might not be able to go off road depends if i can get my driveshfts. right now i have a stock drive shaft (rear only) with a 5.5in lift, and the front one fell out lol. so i have a 2wd jeep hehe.

[Washington_XJ]

Hey I'd like to go. Havent been to a M&G yet, always have work. I think I'll be pretty free by Aug 12th though- plus that restaurant looks fab... mmmm baby back ribs :D

See ya there if we can.

[k7mto]

Is this a M&G in the parking lot so folks can check out each others junk, or is the plan to go inside and eat? If the latter, I might bring the wife and kids down (they love that place) but won't be in the CJ - I wouldn't leave my CJ parked outside unattended.

[Fire Ball]

I think there will be some of both. Some are wheeling before hand. Others may just stop by to chat. If we go, we are going to eat, not sure about wheeling yet, depends on if I get both my axles done by then or just one :D

[terron gregg]

who all is going wheeling and where/what trail

[Easyover]

I wouldn't leave my CJ parked outside unattended.

I think your CJ would be fine in that parking lot. STF is pretty rural, and you'd have to be an extra special idiot to mess with someones Jeep parked with a pack of Jeeps knowing anyone of the Jeep owners buddies might crack you over the head with a tire iron for screwing with it!

[Easyover]

who all is going wheeling and where/what trail

Closest trails would be the FJ area. I't be hot, but I'd be up for something like Martinez Canyon. Haven't done that one since like '99.

[TanTJJim]

Closest trails would be the FJ area. I't be hot, but I'd be up for something like Martinez Canyon. Haven't done that one since like '99.

I was waiting to post to see what run and when that people wanted to do before the m&g. Martinez Canyon has been on my list. So I guess the question is who, what time, and where? I would be in for a morning run.

[WalterD]

San Tan Flat looks like a cool place. Me and the wife will try to be there.

[TiffanyV]

have to check the work calender, but sounds like fun, ill try and convince vinny that itll be a fun drive from copa..:)

[Jdemonto@Airpark Jeep Sales]

Thats my kind of place! Martinez canyon loop before sounds cool..need to check the August schedule this Friday!

Jason

[SHNIPE]

I wont be able to wheel. I should have my jeep. Belle and I will be there either way.

[Allen]

I've only done Martinez to the obstical before the mine! Would love to get the whole trail in! Sounds like a plan!

I'll update the first post!

Meet @ Price Rd 8am to wheel Martinez Canyon Loop (rated 3.5)

http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5796&d=1148360896

if time (number/size of rigs) permits, up Ajax, down The Woodpeckers... if running long ~ just down Lower Woodpecker and out Cottonwood.

Then on to San Tan Flat!

[TanTJJim]

Very cool, I'll be in for the run then too. If I get a gps by then I'll be able to log some of those trails too, sweet!

[Allen]

Very cool, I'll be in for the run then too. If I get a gps by then I'll be able to log some of those trails too, sweet!

I got GPS logs of MOST of FJ!

[amber.hodge]

For some reason drill is not the first weekend of the month this month - it is Aug 12/13 Cannot attend but will host one after this house fiasco comes to an end.

[ademster]

If I can figure out what is going on with my radiator... if it is going to be warranty or not.

And If I can find a new job today.

[Easyover]

I'm in for the Martinez run and the San Tan Flat M&G.

[Washington_XJ]

Ok re-checking with schedule and the way things have been going at work lately I'm pretty sure I can do this. I would love to do the Martinez canyon run but dont think I can make it past the mine :(

Im really starting to look forward to this :D

[Cave Gimp]

Well I'll be at defensive driving school to erase a ticket that morning, but we should be able to make it to the M&G later in the day.

[Stomper]

I am there!! Wheeling then cold beer and good company....who could refuse!!

[Number 7]

Hey Al, Diane and I will be there. Price Rd at 8:00.

[jkdup]

I'm in but not sure about the whole 8 to 5 and beyond. But will be there for the run at 8 - depends on how long it takes us all to get done - not hanging out all afternoon on the east side waiting for 5 o'clock to roll around (sorry guys but it would be LONG drive back after 12 or so hours...) :(

But count the JK to be there to wheel! :cool:

[Fire Ball]

Allen, are you keeping track of how many and are you going to contact them and let them know we are coming?

[Allen]

For the wheeling trip in Martinez Canyon I have:

Myself
BamBam
DesertAngel
Jkdup
Mikegb
Miles2go1979
Pac8541
Sedona Rick
Stomper
TanTJJim
Terron Gregg
Number7
KGB
WashingtonXJ
=14

Meet-n-Greet
14 listed above +
AZCharlie
Easyover
Fireball
GruntYJ
pldamian
corbas
k7mto
=21

Tenetive:
CaveGimp
ddmoris
Idontknow
J Demento@airpark
kemolewis
larry avants
Papa Mo
SHNIPE
Steve Freeman
TiffanyV
=10

People who I'm not sure of: SPEAK UP!!
06TJWrangler
biggreen
bimmerdude
lamanite
samdog3
WalterD
=6
Thats a decent turnout! And yes, they know we are coming!

[Allen]

That's not an hour, Bill! Just take Ironwood down to Ocotillo and turn right then turn left on Ellsworth....then after that turns into the Hunt HWY it is on the right....about 1/2 hour by that route because you miss the cluster going down ellsworth between Germann and Ocotillo....

Actually, Take Ironwood south (it turns into Gantzel) to Combs. Combs west to Gary. Gary south to Hunt. And Hunt west to San Tan Flats!! 14 miles!

Map program says 24 minutes from 60 fwy, but I think it'll take a few more than that.

[Stomper]

I am with Sara Beth on the meet n greet. I will do the FJ runs and probably head back to the Wild West Side. Maybe chasin a JK....:cool:

[Easyover]

I'm definetely in for the Martinez Canyon run, so add me to the trail list as well.

[ROKCRLR]

Are you guys running the full loop or just to the cabins and back?

[Allen]

Are you guys running the full loop or just to the cabins and back?



LOOP!

[ROKCRLR]

You might want to make sure that everyone you're planning to drag thru there understands what they are getting into. There are a few rigs you have listed that I would strongly suggest not try the full loop.

For those of you that are going:
I'm not trying to be a buzzkill here, I just don't want to see anyone hurt their Jeeps or worse, themselves.

[Pac8541]

Rokcrlr,

Good post and wise advice. I was gonna get a hold of someone and ask that very question cuz I can't afford to break my whole driveline. I'm lifted 2.5", on open difs and 33's. I've also got sliders and good recovery points up front. If this run is pushing my luck then I'm big enough to bow out for the moment. Whaddaya think?

I've searched the forum for pics of the run and most of what I've seen looks like a challenge. A lot of the terrain in the posted pics will be a first for me.

[kemolewis]

I will be at the meet and greet for sure but wont have the rig trail ready by then see you all there and shnipe you better show

[Allen]

Yeah, I just want everyone that is going on the trail run to know. Martinez Canyon is not the kind of trail for a stock rig! We got it rated at 3.5 on the site, but it's more like a 3.95! Last time I was out there sombody on 32"s and open was trying to weld their lca's back to their rig!

If someone wants to park their less capable rig at the cabins and ride shotgun I have 1 seat!

Minimum equipment is 33"s and 1 locker ~ recomended 2 lockers. Carnage is completely possible!!!!!

[ROKCRLR]

Rokcrlr,

Good post and wise advice. I was gonna get a hold of someone and ask that very question cuz I can't afford to break my whole driveline. I'm lifted 2.5", on open difs and 33's. I've also got sliders and good recovery points up front. If this run is pushing my luck then I'm big enough to bow out for the moment. Whaddaya think?

I've searched the forum for pics of the run and most of what I've seen looks like a challenge. A lot of the terrain in the posted pics will be a first for me.

You should be able to make it on that set up if you have a good spotter and if the switchbacks haven't gotten too washed out. But there are some washed out areas on the switchbacks that can get pretty interesting. I don't know how much more they've been washed out since I ran the full loop in Jan. Be prepared to use those recovery points. I had a real hard time with them locked on 31's. Some type of traction device is definitely preferred. Rocker protection is also a really good idea, but you've got that covered.

[jporvaz]

I'm bummed that I can't make it do to being out of town.
For those going on the run- here are some pics of the rock garden after Martinez Cabin and before the Mine. My XJ is on 32's and locked in rear in these pics: I've only been to the Mine and haven't done any part of the rest of the loop.

Going in:
http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12654&stc=1&d=1186451148

Coming out:
http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12655&stc=1&d=1186451148

http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12667&stc=1&d=1186451386

http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12656&stc=1&d=1186451148

[TanTJJim]

What do you think Kevin? I have a tj, 3.5" lift, 32's, rock sliders, open/open. I'm looking for a reason to put a locker in front so if you think one would be necessary I can probably pick one up tomorrow.

[Allen]

Wouldnt hurt!

It took 4 hours to do mine!

[ROKCRLR]

What do you think Kevin? I have a tj, 3.5" lift, 32's, rock sliders, open/open. I'm looking for a reason to put a locker in front so if you think one would be necessary I can probably pick one up tomorrow.

I'd say yes on the locker because any reason is a good reason to put in a locker.:D

But like I said above you can probably run without it, but there are some areas that will take some work. Plus I don't know how much more washed out the loop is. I know it can be done, because it has been done. Just be prepared to use those recovery points.

[TanTJJim]

I'll see what I can do then. Should be able to scrounge up enough money for a lunchbox locker. I really don't want to pass on this trail but I don't want to be "that guy" even more. Thanks for the advice Allen and the fair warning Kevin.

[Bill Ritter]

Count me in.

I did that trail on a Quad.

I would love to see how my Jeep handles it.

Bill

[Number 7]

I will bring a shovel if we need to work on the washed out areas. They might be bad after the rains we had. If you have room for a shovel bring it. George

[RokNRich]

Don't forget a cement truck either ! :rolleyes:

I'll go ahead and be the jerk here and say that a few on that list shouldn't be attempting the trail.

Martinez can be a ball buster. It's not only your rig that needs to be prepared, you need to know where to put your tires. Spare parts are mandatory as well as winches and recovery gear, including a spill kit with Peatsorb and Pigpads (not cat litter). An underequipped rig can make it, but only with a very good driver and a willingness to beat on your junk (you don't need your jeep to get to work do you ?) A well equipped rig with a crappy driver isn't much better.

Another thing about trail ratings that often get overlooked is the danger factor, is everyone familiar with this one: http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/showthread.php?t=6755&highlight=martinez+bronco&page=2 150 Ft roll off the side.

This is an environmentally sensitive trail, anything that happens on this trail gets reported to BLM ASAP. Here's Sandee's take on the "can my rig do it ?" question that often pops up:
http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/showthread.php?t=5465&highlight=martinez+mookie

Some of the backdraft when one of our members flopped out there a couple of years back.
http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/showthread.php?t=4955&highlight=martinez+mookie

If you've never ran this and are considering it, at least look through some of the previous trip reports, there are lots of good pictures out there. Likewise, this discussion often comes up, there are quite a few threads about it, search "stacking". One last point, it's one thing for 5-6 built rigs to help out 1 or 2 not so built rigs, it's a whole different story when it's the other way around (1 or 2 built rigs helping out a dozen underbuilt rigs).

I've yet to see a trip report since the rains this year. Maybe the canyon got nailed, maybe it didn't. Regardless, this isn't a trail that we need to move dirt or rocks around to make sure people can get through. The greenies watch this area close, any diversion of the watershed may affect the riparian area and will get this trail closed.

My advice, go to the cabins, if no problems with that, go look at the boulder field before the mill. If that is still easy for you, you are good to go. If you are having doubts by the time you get to the mill, there is no shame in turning around. Have Fun and be safe.

Shovels are for burying poop. ;)
Sorry George, not picking on you exclusively.

[Pac8541]

I might be able to run this with what I've got but I can be a patient man... I'll wait until I'm better equipped to do this and the percentages are more in my favor. Based on what I've found I can and cannot do thus far, I'm more comfortable waiting until my junk is more capable.

Appreciate the comments and insight. I'll see you guys at the M&G.

-Jeff

[Number 7]

Last month I ran the Rubicon trail. Some tippy spots on the trail had repairs done to prevent rollovers and bypasses. It keeps people on the trail and keeps oil and gas off the ground. Is it wrong to repair a dangerous washed out spot on a dirt shelf road? Do you let Mother nature reclaim it? Im not talking about pouring concreat and blocking water ways. George

[TanTJJim]

My advice, go to the cabins, if no problems with that, go look at the boulder field before the mill. If that is still easy for you, you are good to go. If you are having doubts by the time you get to the mill, there is no shame in turning around. Have Fun and be safe.



This sounds like great advice. If we get to the cabins and it looks like a bit too much does anyone else want to just hit up some other trails in FJ? I would love to just go out, see the cabins, and maybe do Elvis again or go to the play hills. I'm open to suggestions.

I was looking at the size of the group too and kind of cringing. I think we're over 12 now??? IMHO it doesn't matter how hard or easy the trail is, with a group that big it's going to be slow going. So what do you say guys, want to split the group up and some of us less built guys just do some easier trials.

[ROKCRLR]

Don't forget a cement truck either ! :rolleyes:

I'll go ahead and be the jerk here and say that a few on that list shouldn't be attempting the trail.

Martinez can be a ball buster. It's not only your rig that needs to be prepared, you need to know where to put your tires. Spare parts are mandatory as well as winches and recovery gear, including a spill kit with Peatsorb and Pigpads (not cat litter). An underequipped rig can make it, but only with a very good driver and a willingness to beat on your junk (you don't need your jeep to get to work do you ?) A well equipped rig with a crappy driver isn't much better.

Another thing about trail ratings that often get overlooked is the danger factor, is everyone familiar with this one: http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/showthread.php?t=6755&highlight=martinez+bronco&page=2 150 Ft roll off the side.

This is an environmentally sensitive trail, anything that happens on this trail gets reported to BLM ASAP. Here's Sandee's take on the "can my rig do it ?" question that often pops up:
http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/showthread.php?t=5465&highlight=martinez+mookie

Some of the backdraft when one of our members flopped out there a couple of years back.
http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/showthread.php?t=4955&highlight=martinez+mookie

If you've never ran this and are considering it, at least look through some of the previous trip reports, there are lots of good pictures out there. Likewise, this discussion often comes up, there are quite a few threads about it, search "stacking". One last point, it's one thing for 5-6 built rigs to help out 1 or 2 not so built rigs, it's a whole different story when it's the other way around (1 or 2 built rigs helping out a dozen underbuilt rigs).

I've yet to see a trip report since the rains this year. Maybe the canyon got nailed, maybe it didn't. Regardless, this isn't a trail that we need to move dirt or rocks around to make sure people can get through. The greenies watch this area close, any diversion of the watershed may affect the riparian area and will get this trail closed.

My advice, go to the cabins, if no problems with that, go look at the boulder field before the mill. If that is still easy for you, you are good to go. If you are having doubts by the time you get to the mill, there is no shame in turning around. Have Fun and be safe.

Shovels are for burying poop. ;)
Sorry George, not picking on you exclusively.

There are some excellent points here that I failed to mention. I definitely agree that there is no shame in turning around.

[ROKCRLR]

Last month I ran the Rubicon trail. Some tippy spots on the trail had repairs done to prevent rollovers and bypasses. It keeps people on the trail and keeps oil and gas off the ground. Is it wrong to repair a dangerous washed out spot on a dirt shelf road? Do you let Mother nature reclaim it? Im not talking about pouring concreat and blocking water ways. George

Hey George, I don't think we are the appropriate people to be deciding what should or should not be repaired. I'm sure that the repairs done on the Rubicon were done by, or at the very least, with the approval of the appropriate governing body. Just my 2 cents.

[Jdemonto@Airpark Jeep Sales]

Jeep count.....How many are attending????

Jason

[Number 7]

The repairs on the Rubicon were done by a group called Friends of the Rubicon. My question is, can we repair the washed out spots on the shelf road on Martinez loop? Is it legal? Please understand this is not an argument, these are real questions that nobody seems to have the correct answer to. If we can't repair the washed out spots on the shelf road then we should stay off that portion of the trail before sombody rolls down the canyon. We can play in the rocks at the mine. If sombody knows if trail repairs are legal I would like to know. I'm just trying to keep us and our jeeps safe and the Greenies not being able to use rollovers in the canyon as ammo against us. George

[Stomper]

So who has pm'd the people whose rigs there is concern about?? Not everyone is going to ask if their rig is ok to go on the trail.

[ROKCRLR]

So who has pm'd the people whose rigs there is concern about?? Not everyone is going to ask if their rig is ok to go on the trail.

I've PM'd the ones I know that haven't posted up and asked.

[ROKCRLR]

The repairs on the Rubicon were done by a group called Friends of the Rubicon. My question is, can we repair the washed out spots on the shelf road on Martinez loop? Is it legal? Please understand this is not an argument, these are real questions that nobody seems to have the correct answer to. If we can't repair the washed out spots on the shelf road then we should stay off that portion of the trail before sombody rolls down the canyon. We can play in the rocks at the mine. If sombody knows if trail repairs are legal I would like to know. I'm just trying to keep us and our jeeps safe and the Greenies not being able to use rollovers in the canyon as ammo against us. George

I'm going to PM Sandee and ask what we can do. The last time I ran it there were some pretty washed out sections on the switchbacks.

[TanTJJim]

To ease my mind (and hopefully everyone else on this run) I picked up a front locker, oil pan skid, gearbox skid, spare axles, and a little more recovery gear.

Also as previously mentioned, I would still be open to do some different trails in the area if nothing else to split up the group so maybe the runs might go a little faster. For those who know the area better I'd appreciate your input. I know we have alot of people lined up to do this run but I don't know if the shear numbers will really make a difference or not. Let me know.

[jkdup]

The MC isn't going - too bad you all won't get to see me and the JK in action! I will try it once I get my sliders and lockers.

(Thanks Kevin :D)

Will see some of you at CK - have a good time can't wait to see the carnage. Hee Hee. :eek:

[Stomper]

I will not be going either. Someone else who owes me a ride in thier Jeep offered to take me along on another run. Enjoy yourselves and be careful!!

[Number 7]

Now that folks are starting to back out on this run I think some clarification is in order. The areas being discussed above as dangerous are on a washed-out shelfy section of road that is very tippy. It doesn't matter how 'built' your rig is, it's slippery and way off-camber. There is a posibility of rolling down the canyon. There is plenty to do even if you opt out of doing 'The Loop', which is where the danger lies. The trail out to Martinez Cabins is scenic and easy. Even the rock garden just past the cabins is fairly accessible by most. I've seen Jeeps on open difs up there. My point is that 'The Loop' is not manditory. George

[Jdemonto@Airpark Jeep Sales]

Geez..can it be that bad???? The washed out shelf has been that way for a while...did it get worst than before??????? Those really concerned about going should stay at the cabins.....If I can convince my wife this is a great idea on her Birthday...I'm in!!


.02



Jason

[ROKCRLR]

Now that folks are starting to back out on this run I think some clarification is in order. The areas being discussed above as dangerous are on a washed-out shelfy section of road that is very tippy. It doesn't matter how 'built' your rig is, it's slippery and way off-camber. There is a posibility of rolling down the canyon. There is plenty to do even if you opt out of doing 'The Loop', which is where the danger lies. The trail out to Martinez Cabins is scenic and easy. Even the rock garden just past the cabins is fairly accessible by most. I've seen Jeeps on open difs up there. My point is that 'The Loop' is not manditory. George

Good point George. A run to the cabins is doable in a stock Jeep. The loop is a different story. I did it in my Rubi when it was stock and beat the crap out of it. If I had known what I was getting into I probably wouldn't have run it. And my oil pan wouldn't have a nice dent in it. That was why I asked for clarification earlier. I'm not trying to chase people away from this trip. The meet and greets are a great way to meet people in the club. I just wanted to make sure everyone knew what they were getting into. If the group wanted to split at the cabins and have some run the loop and the rest go play somewhere else, then problem solved. You just need someone to lead the other group. If I didn't already have other plans I'd offer to lead the other group.

[azcharlie]

You guys could also run Jackhandle it's on the way to MC and it's easy enough for everyone.IMO

[xjstocker]

kevin you party pooper:D. its possible to run many other trails in fj and can be combined to do one after the other elvis to the cabins or cottonwood canyon to upper woody or lower ajax to box canyon. or if your good enough you can get in even more.

[Stomper]

Actually a run should probably have been posted that stockers can do in the first place. A meet and greet attracts people who have not wheeled yet as well as long time members. It is too late in the game to change now, but perhaps next time.

[Allen]

Like I said before, I've only been as far as the waterfall just before the mine. Walked to the mine to look!

I was thinking of getting in a few trails after martinez. If the loop has some point that might be unsafe to pass.... we wont pass it.

We could easally make a trip up Elvis, across Mineral Mountain to Ajax, up to Upper Woodpecker, and down to Lower! I only posted Martinez because it was suggested and I've never been around the loop.

I just want a fun run! Not somthing we got to claw our way thru!

Is this better?? I've run all these trails before and know they are all passable open/open

[TanTJJim]

I'm sure by now some people will be kind of set in doing the canyon. Like Stomper said, it's probably too late to change the plans altogether. That's why I suggested maybe a different run for some of us who might not be fully prepared for the canyon. I'm game either way, always looking forward to meeting new wheelers.

[Allen]

I guess we'll meet up in the am sunday and sort it out!! Some guys are running Martinez saturday, so we'll get a fresh trail report saturday nite!

[TanTJJim]

Sounds like a good idea to me. Sorry to kind of hijack your thread and screw up the planning of the run:(

[Allen]

Just dont mess up the cold beer and you'll be fine!;)

[TanTJJim]

Oh no, that would be heresy:D:D:D

[Number 7]

Actually a run should probably have been posted that stockers can do in the first place. A meet and greet attracts people who have not wheeled yet as well as long time members. It is too late in the game to change now, but perhaps next time.

Like Kevin said, the run out to the Cabins is good for stockers.

Diane

[sms1688]

I am down With the run and the beer

[Washington_XJ]

I'm sure by now some people will be kind of set in doing the canyon. Like Stomper said, it's probably too late to change the plans altogether. That's why I suggested maybe a different run for some of us who might not be fully prepared for the canyon. I'm game either way, always looking forward to meeting new wheelers.

Getting to the (waterfall? wrong name I think) before the mine isnt too bad for stockers. After this towards the mine however gets pretty rough. I know theres no way I can do it unless the flood rains have done some serious clearing. Whats the plan for people without lockers like myself? I guess we'll sort it out sunday morning like allen said...still 8 a.m.?

[Bill Ritter]

How far down 79 is Price Rd.

I've been to Cottonwood many times,never been to Price.

Bill

[xjstocker]

5 miles from cottonwood give or take

[amber.hodge]

Make sure you guys watch for red flags - that goes right through part of the florence range property and it is drill weekend this weekend.

[Crawldad]

Be sure to check the trail reports in the trips and trail runs.

[amber.hodge]

It really is a very easy run out to the cabins...with a boulder garden right past it so that people can watch those who have more well equipped rigs...I got to drive out of the boulder garden and got to put our first little dent on our Poison Spyder rock sliders....If not for RoKcrlr and his spotting it probably would have ended with the front diff ripped off :D women drivers - sheesh!

[Jdemonto@Airpark Jeep Sales]

I am 100% for the M&G and will not be running the jeep for the morning run...wifes Bday...A dinner with Jeeps is more than she can handle


Jason

[amber.hodge]

:) you obviously have not taken her on the right trails - how can a girl dislike jeeping on her birthday?!

[Jdemonto@Airpark Jeep Sales]

:) you obviously have not taken her on the right trails - how can a girl dislike jeeping on her birthday?!


Well...my wife hates EVERYTHING Jeep!!!!!!!! You don't live with a jeep freak that also sells them for a living:D


Are you going to the m&G?????? Maybe you can talk some sense into my wife!


Jason

[amber.hodge]

Nope, But you can come to ours in a couple months or I'll see her in CK.

(take her to the doctor and have her get a labotomy) I always say, if you're going to get married, marry the ones that have fun on a horse or riding a mechanical bull - then you know they won't mind being jarred around in a jeep! :D

[Bill Ritter]

I can't make the the run due to a dead battery.:o

Bill

[Fire Ball]

Well we were going to come but Carrie has what I had for the last week. Bad sore throat and a cough. She has plans for the rest of the week and needs to try to get better or lose a ton of money she already paid for her classes. Guess we are out for tonight, have fun!

We'll try to make the next one.

Oh by the way, I talked to the manager at San Tan Flatts and she had no idea anyone was coming. :)

[Allen]

No problems! Thanks to everyone that did make the trip! Martinez Loop was a BLAST! We ended up with 1 group @ 8am and 1 group @ 9am

It was fun, but it was WAY too hot!

Must have been 12-15 jeeps that made the M&G ....... and Dale, Spencer, and the bartenders knew we were coming!

[GRUNT]

Sorry I missed you guys, got my national exam tomorrow... Felt I needed to crunch before the exam. Was looking forward to meeting everyone, especially the Queen Creeker Jeeps! See everyone at Crown King!

[TanTJJim]

Hey everyone, had a great time today! Thanks again for everyone bearing with me and letting me test the abilities of my Jeep and my driving skills. Despite the two youngens getting a little freaked out at times they had a good time too.

I am really glad I was able to do this run but it is definitely not for the faint of heart. Add in the extreme heat, 8 hours on the trail, some pretty hairy washes next to big drops offs, among others this was quite a challenging run. A big thank you for the trail report from the group that ran it yesterday. I could go on but I'm sure the pics will speak for themselves when they start rolling in. Thanks again everyone, we'll see you on the trails for sure:)

[Fire Ball]

Sounds like a good time. Glad we decided not to go, Carrie is in bed and down for the count. I would hate to have other people get sick because of us.

I talked to Kody and she said she had not heard of anyone coming. Guess you need to talk to the right people :)

[Number 7]

Well, THAT was fun! Thank you Allen for putting this trip together & for the shower! We had a great time. Glad we got to do the Loop (and glad it's over with)! Nice meeting some new jeeper friends and seeing some familiar faces.

Here are a few of the shots I got, the rest are on our webshots account.

George on the bypass to the rock garden, I think:

http://inlinethumb30.webshots.com/8157/2783634130100085335S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2783634130100085335didWYo)

Allen in the tub:

http://inlinethumb46.webshots.com/7277/2293329600100085335S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2293329600100085335sNMiih)

Joe in the tub:

http://inlinethumb20.webshots.com/9427/2737687050100085335S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2737687050100085335ZMFSaK)

Jim making his way through the rock garden:

http://inlinethumb41.webshots.com/8296/2812715720100085335S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2812715720100085335wFXMYO)

Joe:

http://inlinethumb36.webshots.com/6243/2500702130100085335S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2500702130100085335CaOLYu)

Jim going for it:

http://inlinethumb14.webshots.com/7053/2580040250100085335S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2580040250100085335zsrZQA)

Josh going for it:

http://inlinethumb25.webshots.com/8600/2506889860100085335S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2506889860100085335EAMzyj)

George on that 'tippy' spot:

http://inlinethumb16.webshots.com/6095/2352051640100085335S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2352051640100085335vwPjOG)

112 at the top:

http://inlinethumb53.webshots.com/7668/2006783030100085335S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2006783030100085335gkFzek)

Sorry, no pics from the actual meet & greet. That was fun & the food was awesome. It was a blast, thanks to all!!

Diane

Diane

[desertangel]

We just wallked in the door. It was a great run and yes the girls had a blast. I took alot of pictures and will try and get them posted up tomorrow. Right now I need to get my broken self in the shower. Thank you to everyone for the patience you showed the girls one of them is an old hand at it but this was a very first run for the other.

[TanTJJim]

Diane, great pic of my trying my hardest to flop it:) And Barbara, I've got to give it to you, you were 120% right about me being a tiny bit more vertical than I should have been on that waterfall. The view of the sky was great though, I just wanted to keep going:)

[desertdawg]

That picture looks so familar
http://inlinethumb14.webshots.com/7053/2580040250100085335S600x600Q85.jpg

http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12894&stc=1&d=1186983105

http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12895&stc=1&d=1186983105

[TanTJJim]

That picture looks so familar


:eek::eek::eek: That's what we were afraid might happen. Notice that there aren't any pics of me actually going over that water fall? We decided it would be better to keep it RSD so I backed down. Made a nice poser shot though:)

[Jdemonto@Airpark Jeep Sales]

Even though we did not make the trip, It was an adaventure traveling out tonight to Santan flats!!! Nice to meet some of you and see the others I did know:p Hope to see you guys next weekend in CK

Jason

[Easyover]

Had a great time on the trail despite the intense heat and my 10 year old Optima battery quiting on me at the most inopertune time!:o I think that was officially my first run with the AZVJC. It was nice to finally meet a few of you and do a great trail at the same time.

By the time I got home I was done, so didn't make the M&G. We should try again for San Tan flats in the fall when it's not so dangum' hot outside.

[FlexyXJ]

Yup. It was a good run with no major damage. Slid the JK into the side of the sluice on the way down, so its cherry is officially POPPED. Looks better with dmage to it I think. :D It was too hot, but we all had the proper items for a hot, long trail run so everything was good. I really cant believe all the hype that everyone makes Martinez out to be. :confused: Its not a hard trail, but a fun one even when its 115+ out.


Joe

[BamBam]

Fun day except for the heat. Did the trail in a stock 07 Rubi with no problems until the sluice. Tagged my drivers side fender with a few scratches. Actually makes the jeep look more like a jeep :) I even put a charcol canister skid plate on from Absolute Offroad and never even scratched it.

It was a good day until my friend layed his jeep on its side hauling *** down price road. He is ok and he drove the jeep home but did crunch some fenders and a windshield frame. I will post up pics later on.


DCMP

[Allen]

A flop pic on Price Road will make a good avatar!!