kill switch

[willtjx]

anybody know of a write up on a killswitch? with all the break in's lately i dont want to take a chance

will

[RandyT]

what year is ur rig?

[willtjx]

i have an 02 TJ X model, automatic

[smoove1]

I used 2 relays, one is the starter kill and the other one activates the horn when the key is turned all the way to the crank position. So if someone tries the ol' screwdriver in the ignition trick the jeep will not start and the horn will be going to alert someone. I have a hidden toggle switch to start the jeep and to bypass the relay when I'm wheelin'. Hopefully this will keep my money pit from being stolen.

[willtjx]

I used 2 relays, one is the starter kill and the other one activates the horn when the key is turned all the way to the crank position. So if someone tries the ol' screwdriver in the ignition trick the jeep will not start and the horn will be going to alert someone. I have a hidden toggle switch to start the jeep and to bypass the relay when I'm wheelin'. Hopefully this will keep my money pit from being stolen.


only problem is i have no electrical know how and am afraid to start cutting and splicing. i am very good at following directions and so would be more comfortable if there is a detailed write up. looked in the usual places but i cant find anything

will

[smoove1]

I can help you install this setup, not very difficult. I did car audio and security for 10 years, became a guru with relays. Let me know.

[Stomper]

I can help you install this setup, not very difficult. I did car audio and security for 10 years, became a guru with relays. Let me know.

I am interested in that kind of set up also. Let me know if you guys get together maybe I can sit in also.

[amber.hodge]

The kill switch is a great idea...we didn't do ours - had it installed. Service Tech off of Kyrene and Chandler did ours. cost 75.00. I would imagine you could do the same thing for about 15.00 in materials and an hour of time if you knew what you were doing.

[Phx Cobra]

It's real easy.
Splice the fuel pump relay to a switch, hide it, your done.

[amber.hodge]

It's real easy.
Splice the fuel pump relay to a switch, hide it, your done.

That is how ours is pretty much....you can tell when we forget to disengage, as the engine starts, gurgles, and then dies all in 5-10 seconds. :D

[DOG-BOY]

Very simple thing to do. Anyone with electrical knowledge can do. Every once in a while there is a wrenching party to install such a switch

[KennethS]

I have always liked the fuel pump or ignition kill switch over the starter kill switch. If it doesn't crank, it's pretty obvious that there's a kill switch, but if it cranks and doesn't fire (ignition kill) or fires up, then sputters and dies (fuel pump kill) there's no way for the would-be thief to know if there's a kill switch or if the vehicle is just a POS.

[Fire Ball]

Oh Wayne is it that time again? How about a party I can actually attend? :D

[AZG23]

can we take the details DOWN...so not everyone can see how/where they are wired........:D thanks...yeah...that'd be great mmmmkay....:D

[willtjx]

can we take the details DOWN...so not everyone can see how/where they are wired........:D thanks...yeah...that'd be great mmmmkay....:D

i dont think the crack heads that want your jeep are trolling the boards to find how we wire a kill switch.:rolleyes:

[Steve]

Oh Wayne is it that time again? How about a party I can actually attend? :D

Does this mean we are going to have another kill switch party? I still need to install a fuel kill switch. I just don't have enough knowledge on how to do it. If we have one I'll do everything in my power to make it this time.;):D

[AZG23]

i dont think the crack heads that want your jeep are trolling the boards to find how we wire a kill switch.:rolleyes:

Thats a pretty bold statement. What makes you think everyone thats into Jeeps that reads this board is here to be part of the group...and not to troll for Jeeps to steal. Youve got some learning to do.

Its not crackheads that want your Jeep...they want the crap inside...its other not so "good" people that strip em for the parts you have paid for. I for one dont appreciate the detailed info on where this stuff is located on a Jeep.

Wether mine is wired differently or not...hidden in a different spot...or operates differently...Ive put a ton of time and money into my Heep...dont give anyone any info that they can use to steal it. :rolleyes:

[Fire Ball]

If you install a factory made system then any one who wants to steal your junk bad enough has it easy, they are all the same from one car to the next, all they need is to know what system is in it.

My system is very unique and I haven't told anyone how I did it :D There is one on the ignition switch, one hidden switch and also a hidden reed switch and they have to be done in the correct order to work :D

[AZG23]

All Im saying is the less info out there the better....right..? Right....all one would have to do is come to Wills' house in QC and take his Jeep X because one knows how he did it...then he wont be able to go to Church on Sunday. Then his wife of 9 years will be upset with him.

I don't see what the purpose of having a kill switch is...if everyone and their brother knows how it works. Dont give out that kind of info...maybe some dont care..but others do.

:D

[Cave Gimp]

I agree with AZG23 on removing the info. That being said, if someone wants my jeep, they will tow it. The kill switch is like the "Club" and door locks, just a deterrent. Look how long it takes a repo guy to hook up a car and drive off. He could be in a chop shop in minutes and nothing would be left of my jeep.

Again, please remove the details on the kill switch. :)

[Fire Ball]

Yeah better remove the info, only one problem, most of the guys here got their info about how to do a kill switch from th 2 dozen or more sites telling how to do it. :D

There are only a couple ways to disable a vehicle and a guy who makes a living steeling cars knows a heck of a lot more about it than we do.

[willtjx]

Thats a pretty bold statement. What makes you think everyone thats into Jeeps that reads this board is here to be part of the group...and not to troll for Jeeps to steal.

paranoid?

i have too much to worry about without thinking that somebody is waiting for me to post the fact that i am going to be putting a kill switch in my jeep. if somebody wants it bad enough they are going to take it. no switch or alarm system is theft proof.

dont know how you found out how many years i have been married though;)

[AZG23]

Not paranoid..just aware.......

I agree...if they really want it, its GONE. Just not wanting to give them any edge possible.

PM'd ya :D

[Markos]

All Im saying is the less info out there the better....right..? Right....all one would have to do is come to Wills' house in QC and take his Jeep X because one knows how he did it...then he wont be able to go to Church on Sunday. Then his wife of 9 years will be upset with him.

I don't see what the purpose of having a kill switch is...if everyone and their brother knows how it works. Dont give out that kind of info...maybe some dont care..but others do.

My god man it's the internet.

1. If you steal cars for a living, you know what to look for. This post isn't going to up the theft count. Chances are, if the car doesn't start they will move on.

a.) If the car starts and dies, it isn't getting fuel (ie. fuel pump kill)
b.) If the car cranks but won't start, it isn't getting ignition (ie ignition kill)
c.) If the starter isn't cranking, it isn't getting juice. (ie batter kill)

Every theif and their brother knows how it works, they may not know where it's located. Don't stick it in an obvious place, and you'll be fine. If they really want it, they will get it no matter what. Chances are, they'll move on if it doesn't fire right up. They'll also be sure to slash your seats and soft top because they are pissed.

2. There are a billion sites that tell you how to wire a kill switch, be it a jeep, a chevy, whatever. The same method applies to all vehicles.

[CarolinaRubi]

a.) If the car starts and dies, it isn't getting fuel (ie. fuel pump kill)
b.) If the car cranks but won't start, it isn't getting ignition (ie ignition kill)
c.) If the starter isn't cranking, it isn't getting juice. (ie batter kill)



:confused:

:rolleyes:So three jumper wires and screw looking for the switch.:eek:

Lojack with early warning & Clifford alarm :D and a prayer
If someone wants it bad enough they will have it. Posting info on sites is not a very good idea if thats your only security.:( or a fellow club members.

[Digger]

I would like an alarm to go off, and it would sound like someone yelling "FIRE, FIRE", cause that's the word that draws attention. fast. I would like them to be caught at stealing. Actually I'd like my dogs to catch them stealing. hehehehehehheheh

[crimsonfox]

I have an autopage alarm on my, new to me, KJ. If it goes off I'm running outside complete with my .40s&w. :D

[AZG23]

I have an autopage alarm on my, new to me, KJ. If it goes off I'm running outside complete with my .40s&w. :D

ok there tuff guy...just putcher pants back on 1st ok..? :D:D

[crimsonfox]

ok there tuff girl...just putcher pants back on 1st ok..? :D:D

^Fixed

And I usually sleep with pants on. ;)

[Digger]

LOL oh, you guys:rolleyes:

[AZG23]

maybe ya'll should put your name at the bottom...




Doh....Hiya CrimsonFox! :D

[willtjx]

Actually I'd like my dogs to catch them stealing. hehehehehehheheh

my dog would slobber on them till they died but they would crap their pants when they saw him running at them
http://lh5.google.com/mclawswill/Rq_9RyBixCI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rCdBaKAqD3Q/4-20-2007-20.jpg?imgmax=512

[Fire Ball]

^Fixed

And I usually sleep with pants on. ;)


I used to sleep in my birthday suit on days when I work out. I take a shower and go to bed, one less pair of skivvies to take to work on overnights.

One night I got up to use the rest room and tripped over my flight bag. I want from staggering back to bed at 0300 to having my face flat on the filthy hotel room carpet hoping my neck wasn't broken. Now I don't sleep au natural just in case I have to be rescued in the middle of the night, or worse, run out into the night during a tornado or fire :D

[desertangel]

I just park it in the garage

[azshtr]

They also have the fuel kill system that replaces the fuel relay with a shutoff relay. You need to press a button on the key ring to activate the relay. Acts like a kill switch but looks just like a normal relay. I don't think the bad guys want to stay around very long and figure out the method of security and why it won't start, they will most likely move on to the next vehicle.

[KennethS]

The majority of autos are stolen by opportunistic punks, so a simple kill switch, an alarm system, a steering column collar, or a steering wheel immobilizer (the Club or similar) will deter them. Heck, my sister's car was saved by simply having the park brake engaged - she came out one morning to find her driveway empty, two skid marks going down the road, and her car in front of the neighbor's house with both doors open.

If a professional thief wants your vehicle he will get it. Any of the above items on your vehicle will only slow him down, but if you can slow him down enough, by using multiple layers of protection, then you may make him nervous enough to leave without the vehicle.

[tomfooshee]

Just run out in the birthday suit. By the time they stop laughing and passing out because they can't inhale the cops should be there.

[tomfooshee]

Remember the hood lock kill switch parties Joe would host? Maybe he'd be willing to do that again.

[Joe West]

I thought someone picked up doing a kill-switch workshop? With full time school and full time work, there is no way I could teach a kill-switch workshop. I loved teaching them though...

Joe

[Wayco]

I have done a couple of them, right now, I don't have the time either. Maybe this fall, when it cools down a little.

[Markos]

The majority of autos are stolen by opportunistic punks, so a simple kill switch, an alarm system, a steering column collar, or a steering wheel immobilizer (the Club or similar) will deter them. Heck, my sister's car was saved by simply having the park brake engaged - she came out one morning to find her driveway empty, two skid marks going down the road, and her car in front of the neighbor's house with both doors open.


You can also leave the transmission in drive if you have an auto. Just be sure to keep the parking brake engaged...

[Wayco]

Or put the T-case in neutral, that might fool them too... :rolleyes:

[Digger]

Let me see if I can stop laughing long enough to type this....you guys are so entertaining....but I think maybe I'd better start wearing something when I go to bed too... it's just hard to do in this heat.
Anywho, all the talk about kill switches, I had one installed in my XJ
A WORD OF CAUTION : went the fuel route and it works good, but the check engine light went on and wouldn't go off. had it checked out with diagnostic and the code was for transmission, got the check eng light off. and will have it looked at Monday to figure a new connection. (Doesn't seem to effect performance at all though) ... just wanted to share that information for all who might install switch.

[Markos]

So here are a few things you can do if say, you are leaving your jeep unattended while on vacation, and don't have a kill switch:

1. Leave vehicle in drive (parking brake engaged)
2. Place transfer case in neutral (parking brake engaged)
3. Unplug the spark plug wire that goes from your ignition coil to the distributor, dont' make it obvious.
4. Remove fuel pump relay.

All of these combined would make for a car that was very difficult to start. All in all it would take you a few minutes to get the car back into running shape.

[KennethS]

Don't forget these:

5. Remove keys form ignition
6. Lock doors (if you have them).

You would be amazed at how many folks don't do the above two things.

[shaggy914]

if you do install one and wouldnt mine someone else sitting in id love to see how its done.
-jim

[drroadie]

Just tap into the + side of the coil primary side. Run this wire to the switch you have hidden in the cab. Now a wire from the other side of the switch to ground. When the switch is in the "on " position the coil primary side is grounded- Jeep wont start. Works great.:D