My Project

[ijestares]

Ok so I finely got my pics up of my YJunk... Check out what Ive been doing!!!

This is a before picture of the YJunk... many plans are being made at this point... It was purchesd with an 8.8 rear and a 30 front with a cable possi lock... (dean come pick em up and pay me) :) Other features included were the 4 point bucket seats and the (bugger welded) roll cage already installed. The rear of the suspension was stiff as a board and the decision was made to link it front and rear with 1 ton axles.

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An 87 Ford Dana 60 was bought from 1toughxj for 1G and I imediatly started hacking away on it... I decided to go with 14" KING 2.0 air shocks for the front to keep everything simplified for the rear 14bolt there are 16" King 2.0 air shocks. I just got them in the mail today and cant wait to see them in action!!!

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While waiting for my parts I thought that it would be a great idea to try out Daniels new tube bender!:D

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This is what we created...

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I wanted to go with the front stinger to add some girth to the front end also I have seen them work in action and have kept people from rolling all the way over. I have also seen them stand a Jeep straight up... and I mean vertical... Yes these stingers if bilt right will also keep you from rolling end over end if such an angle would cause... oh yea I think it also looks cool! :rolleyes: :cool:

here is another look...
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[ijestares]

As for the rear I wanted a tire carrier that alot of dont people have. I was looking for functional yet burley and able to take a whipping and say "thank you sir may I have another?" this is what we came up... with thanks to PS for the Idea...:D
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If for some reason you dont read and never get out this is how it works...basicly the Tire carrier acts also as a rear stinger... the bottem is hinged so that I can drop the tire carrier down and add/remove the Tire with out breaking back. Diparture angle was a major factor on this one and we dont feel that it will be an issue especialy after we stretch the wheel base... Even if it does that steel is thick and they should just slide right accross any surface they come in contact with! We also saved some room for a spare 40" or 42" inch if needed! ;) I made the lock come through the center of the carrier in stead of how you may have seen them before from PS they have arms that come from bothe sides of the stinger that attach to each rear fender. I wasnt a big fan of that. Hear is a closer look at the attachment.
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And this is a shot of the whole rig with front and rear stinger/carrier
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[ijestares]

Now for the really fun stuff!!!
its time to pull those whimpy axles and add gnarley ones!!! Again with the shorter driver side of the newer Dana 60 we are going with King 2.0's to simplify the suspension... No I probebley wont be taking any more long rediculose drives to Crown King any more with this set up but... oh freakin well! Thats not what this build is for anyway!!!

Poof!!! Axles are gone!
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For now the ride height is going to be 31" to the rocker pannel at least until I get done with the Triangular 4 link geometry..:confused: the air shocks will also beable to make that fluctuate!

As for the rear suspension... we are going to be chopping the frame and reboxing it in as you can see in this pic our typical wrangler frame as that axle elevation curve... (If you will?) in order to stretch the wheel base and alow for thoes gnarley 16" shocks to travel we must cut out the downward side of the curve toward the bumper right at the peak of its aspect... Did you get all of that? here is a Pic so I can see what I am talking about! :rolleyes:
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You can almost see a faint line that we scribed to be the cut off point.
Well thats all for now stay tuned for the frame modification and link install.

Our date is aimed at SEPTEMBER 1 2007 to be on the trail!!!

-If the pics did not come out try: www.JeepYJ@groups.msn.com

[kjflowers]

Lots of red X's

[ijestares]

Lots of red X's

damn! how do I get my pics up? :(

[Lifes A Jeep]

damn! how do I get my pics up? :(

Post your pictures to photobucket and then copy the link over. Do preview post to make sure they display. Pictures from MSN Groups can't display over here.

You can edit all of your post above after you get your pics on Photobucket.

[lancetkenyon]

Or look at the "how to upload pics" thread here on the site.

[ROCRWLR]

I just explained to isreal how upload pics. pics will be up soon.

Dean

[Crawldad]

This is what works for me.
Goto the website: http://tinypic.com/

Click on the Browse button

Browse to the picture location on your local hard drive (or network for that matter)

Click on the bottom Host It

Wait a few seconds while your picture loads to Tinypic.com

Once its done uploading, you'll see a section labeled Successfully Hosted - towards the bottom.

Below here are 4 line items

Cut/Past the line item marked img (left click, then right click and select copy).

Then you can past the link into your post like I did below.

Once you do this 2 or 3 times, it should only take your 30 seconds from start to finsih to post a picture.

Someone told me about this site over a year ago and just wanted to share the wealth.

[lancetkenyon]

Nice looking YJ! Glad to see another "yellow" Jeeper here on the board.

[ijestares]

Thanks for the quick tips!!! Can you now tell me how to make this computer spit money at me???:p

[ijestares]

Nice looking YJ! Glad to see another "yellow" Jeeper here on the board.

And all this time I thought I was going to have the color changed....:rolleyes:

[lancetkenyon]

And all this time I thought I was going to have the color changed....:rolleyes:

All the cool kids drive yellow Jeeps!!!:cool:

[kjflowers]

nice job

[TRLR8TDTJ]

Looks good nice work.

Kyle

[azcharlie]

Awesome stuff......

[lancetkenyon]

Awesome stuff......

Charlie, how old is your avatar???:eek:

[azcharlie]

LOL.....it was taken about three yrs ago.

[ijestares]

Charlie, how old is your avatar???:eek:

I guess that means I should change it!!! please keep to the thread!

[azcharlie]

I guess that means I should change it!!! please keep to the thread!

Sorry:o Please keep the pic's coming. I would like to see how you mount the air shocks on the front axle.

[ijestares]

Sorry:o Please keep the pic's coming. I would like to see how you mount the air shocks on the front axle.

Ya you will get to see that but I think the interesting part will be seeing the links all come together and work properly... I hope!!! It is one thing to bolt something to your rig prefabed its another type of love to actualy stand back and say "ya built that!" or blame it on someone else how ever the outcome...;)

[YJunk]

Ok so I finely got my pics up of my YJunk...

YJunk what... there's only one mang and he's running your tires!! (had to air them down to 8psi to get them to fit in the tub, but they fit and the door shuts - if just barely)

I'm gonna do my best to make you sorry you sold them, but with the build your describing I have a feeling its going to be a rough time.

It looks good bud get er done and lets hit the trail... I'll do my best to keep up!!

Meet the original...

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x251/desertangel02/DSC01227.jpg

[SHNIPE]

yeah thats DsrtJeepers old Yj for sure.

[ijestares]

yeah thats DsrtJeepers old Yj for sure.

OK.... and...

is there somthing that I should know???:confused:
Your making me nervous with such an open ended coment!

[ijestares]

yeah thats DsrtJeepers old Yj for sure.

I promis I payed money for it! :p

[SHNIPE]

Eric is a friend of mine. Just couldnt place where id seen it before. Ive never seen it in person, only in pictures. Was just neat ot see it still being used locally. Im sure he will get a kick out of it when i see him next.

Diggin the bumper and tire carrier.

[ijestares]

Eric is a friend of mine. Just couldnt place where id seen it before. Ive never seen it in person, only in pictures. Was just neat ot see it still being used locally. Im sure he will get a kick out of it when i see him next.

Diggin the bumper and tire carrier.

Thanks for the nice complement!!! We have that bender dialed in forsure!!!:D

does he still mob in a jeep?

I hopehe likes what im doing to it!!:rolleyes:

[Steve]

It sure looks good. I had the pleasure of seeing that thing in person. I'm sure he would like what you've done and what your doing. Keep up the good work and keep the pictures coming.:cool: :D

[ijestares]

It sure looks good. I had the pleasure of seeing that thing in person. I'm sure he would like what you've done and what your doing. Keep up the good work and keep the pictures coming.:cool: :D

Thanks Steveo!!:D

[Triple-XJ]

OK.... and...

is there somthing that I should know???:confused:
Your making me nervous with such an open ended coment!

I know that Jeep too, I drove it on occasion. If it still has the MPI 4.2l w/ the 727 auto, be easy while running it around the block on pavement. Unless its been changed, the reversed manual shift valve body would kick like a mule while under power and shifting into second, I had seen that trans go in the shop twice with tailshaft issues. Its a nice set up, just go easy with the big tires when on pavement. The previous owner put some time into the cage and dash/gauges. Its a nice rig and a great head start.

BTW; I liked the other avatar. the one with the shout out to me :eek: :rolleyes:

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q67/geno-zoni/100_0779.jpg
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q67/geno-zoni/100_0777.jpg

[ROCRWLR]

Cherie said your jeep is pre-etty

[ijestares]

I know that Jeep too, I drove it on occasion. If it still has the MPI 4.2l w/ the 727 auto, be easy while running it around the block on pavement. Unless its been changed, the reversed manual shift valve body would kick like a mule while under power and shifting into second, I had seen that trans go in the shop twice with tailshaft issues. Its a nice set up, just go easy with the big tires when on pavement. The previous owner put some time into the cage and dash/gauges. Its a nice rig and a great head start.

BTW; I liked the other avatar. the one with the shout out to me :eek: :rolleyes:

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q67/geno-zoni/100_0779.jpg
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q67/geno-zoni/100_0777.jpg

Thanks for the heads up! Sorry for the relentless burning... It's all in the past! Not sure if it matters to you now but I appoligize for my actions!!! I hope you kids are doing well... Sure is good to here your still around! We have had some good times thats forsure! ;)
The drive train is all the same for now until I upgrade to an LT1, once I do I'm not sure if I want to keep the tranny. I might go with the NV4500.

[ijestares]

Cherie said your jeep is pre-etty

Will be even more pre-etty when shes on a set of full widths!!! :D

[ademster]

i could use the 727... let me know...

[ijestares]

i could use the 727... let me know...

Were you just screening this thread waiting for me to offer up my future plans??? :eek: How very Jedi of you!!! :D

[ROCRWLR]

aren't you supposed to be working? hurry back so I can finish my rig. if you are not going to be back this weekend can you find out if I can make the pick up saturday morning. wife is going to San Diego saturday and it would be a good time to work on my rig. Just me a case of beer and work to be done on my junk.

Dean

[ademster]

Were you just screening this thread waiting for me to offer up my future plans??? :eek: How very Jedi of you!!! :D

No... this was the first time I saw this thread... read the whole thing... and I am looking for a 727

so I thought I ask :D

[Triple-XJ]

Thanks for the heads up! Sorry for the relentless burning... It's all in the past! Not sure if it matters to you now but I appoligize for my actions!!! I hope you kids are doing well... Sure is good to here your still around! We have had some good times thats forsure! ;)
The drive train is all the same for now until I upgrade to an LT1, once I do I'm not sure if I want to keep the tranny. I might go with the NV4500.

Belive it or not, it does matter. :cool:
We will bump into each other again, sooner or later, we have a tight group of Jeepers.

Good luck with that YJ, if I ever get this friggin home remodel finished, I'll start back on mine.

See Ya' :)

[ROCRWLR]

lets see some new pics...

[Oc1paddler]

Nice bumpers! :rolleyes:I guess I should go see if mine are still attached!:eek:

[ijestares]

i guess all great minds think alike!

[ijestares]

Here are some new pics per request of ROCRWLR... :rolleyes:
choped frame and extended on a straight plain in order to alow the stretched rearend to flex without binding up in the frame...
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note: check out the new "wherzz the beef" bumper!
Just noticed yesterday when mocking up my 14bolt that i probebly should have narrowed the frame widith also :( I hope that my shocks fit... otherwise I will be notching the work I just did. :eek:
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Mocked up on 40" beefs
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more pics to come tonight!!!

[Antman]

Real nice job! What I want to see are pictures of inside the tub.
Looks like a nice setup.

[ijestares]

Real nice job! What I want to see are pictures of inside the tub.
Looks like a nice setup.

I'll work on that for u... what are u expecting to see???

[ijestares]

here is yesterdays events:

T is welding my beads...
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Not bad welds for a 17 year old kid!!! Puts some of you old farts to shame...
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Like a roll of nickles got knocked over...
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Monkey'ing some 40's on...
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Now to bolt on the outer rings...
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[ijestares]

check out the mounted meats!!!

seating a bead on my own
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[lilbluej]

who makes your beadlock kit?

interested in some for my pos.

[ijestares]

the link to the website can be found on pirate 4x4 in the vender list or try offroad wharehouse .com

[ijestares]

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[ademster]

looks good, but get a better camera... the pictures are too dark.

[ijestares]

looks good, but get a better camera... the pictures are too dark.

ok... because i have soooo much money left after this build. :rolleyes:

[ijestares]

I guess the flash was off

[ijestares]

next pics will be of my freashly mounted shocks... ya beeeotches!

[ijestares]

I finaly found some time and money to get back into the shop.
Now it's time to start bringing it all together.
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I decided to send back the rear 16" and front 14" 2.0 King shocks and go with the bigger and beefier Fox 2.5. After recieving the 2.5's it was obvious right away that the 2.0 stands at no comparison to the 2.5 !
After mounting the beadlocks and recieving the new shock upgrade it was time to start bending some tube and getting some beads laid down.
If you look back on page 1 or 2 Geno posted up some pics from the previous owner. In them you can see the fabricated basket that was used to carry parts/cooler/toolbox ext. in the rear of the tub as you can see I got rid of that chit so I could get some serious work done! The gas tank will also be moved from its curent location (unknown why it was put there in the first place) to a more space conserving location. The said basket is still intact and may be of some use to someone else. Hint...Hint...
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Gussets will be added eventully in predetermined locations for added support to the hoops. If you look closely you can also see where Danial and I extended the frame location to allow full travel of the axle housing... and yes there will be a disk break conversion done after I fund the full hydro steering. :o
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Here is the first shot of the RA that I went with. For shock hoop locations we were forced to mount the hiems to the inside of the frame as opposed to outside the frame as in the front will be set up... not a huge deal it will just allow for more flex in the rear. All in all I believe that this set up will work just fine!!!
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This is the mounting of the front lower mount. (obviously) Because of the shorter size of my driver side Dana 60 we were also forced to mount the shocks to the top of the RA weld on brackets. This was taken into account when we built the front hoops to allow 7" of up and down travel on all shocks to allow equal travel through out.
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It is a little hard to see but the hoop fits perfectly under the hood while shut. (approx one finger width) They were built with the hood up and while hood clearence was not taken into consideration this perfect clearence was my pure luck of the fab gods. :eek:
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Here is a nice look at the left and right sides. I belive the housing will be moved forward another inch to fit the RA arm on to the frame properley. Body mounts will be sacrificed aswell inorder to make this posiable.
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Here is a nice level plane across the two hoops. There will be a support mounted between the two hoops for protection of the engine on potential roll over and to increase streangth of the hoops. This was taken just before we realized we had not put the hood down yet... Thank you fab gods!!!
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More pictures to come this week!!

[lancetkenyon]

Looking really great!

[desertfabmotors]

Looks good!! Keep up the hard work.
One thing, do not know if you have taken into consideration yet the shock clearance between frame and shock. You might be notching the frame for the shock under full flex. :D

Todd

[ijestares]

looks like the shocks are about 1/2 inch from the frame on full compression. It looks like a lowrider right now holmes!!! Buritos for lunch everyday this week!!! :D

[desertfabmotors]

looks like the shocks are about 1/2 inch from the frame on full compression. It looks like a lowrider right now holmes!!! Buritos for lunch everyday this week!!! :D

You need to cycle the suspension, the shocks will swing inboard. Also if you are using trac-bars it will swing even more.

Todd

[ijestares]

You need to cycle the suspension, the shocks will swing inboard. Also if you are using trac-bars it will swing even more.

Todd


Thanks for the heads up!!!
Cycling the suspension is on tomorrows agenda.

[ijestares]

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