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06GrnRubi
07-23-2007, 02:57 PM
I just received an email that sent me to this site. http://actionnetwork.org/campaign/apache_sitgreaves
Here is what it says.
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Protect the Apache-Sitgreaves From Off-Road Vehicle Abuse
Key Wildlife Areas At Risk in the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest

The Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest boasts amazing scenery, pristine fish and wildlife habitat, and more miles of river and streams — 450! — than any other Southwestern forest. The Mount Baldy, Escudilla, and Bear Wallow Wildernesses and the Blue Range Primitive Area make the Apache one of America's premier backcountry forests, also noted for its trout streams and high-elevation lakes and meadows. The Mogollon Rim and incredible biodiversity, vistas and habitat ensure the Sitgreaves is one of the crown jewels of Arizona's public lands.

The Apache-Sitgreaves deserves the utmost protection. With more than 8,100 miles of roads already in place on the forest, it's shocking, not to mention illegal, that the Forest Service would even consider opening more of the forest to off-road vehicle use — protected and pristine areas like the Blue River, the Blue Range Primitive Area, and the Escudilla Wilderness.

To preserve the wild character and habitat of the forest, it's essential that the Forest Service decrease the acreage open to off-road vehicles and not add roads or trails to the system. Roads already overwhelm the wildlife, vegetation, soil and water, and road maintenance puts a severe drain on the forest's budget. Take action now!
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At the bottom of the page, is a way to send an email to Supervisor Elaine Zieroth and Travel Management Team Leader Jim Copeland of the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest.

Here is what they want their readers (supporters) to say:

I am opposed to opening more of the Apache-Sitgreaves to off-road access, and support the closure of routes that cause ecological damage and user conflicts. So I'm concerned with 1) the recommendations currently included on maps posted on the forest's Travel Management Planning website, and 2) the extent of dispersed camping areas the forest may designate for cross-country travel.

I recognize that the maps display public comments received to date. But many of the recommended open routes run contrary to the intent of the Travel Management Rule; some are also contrary to law. Posting specific illegal routes will confuse the public.

In light of the need to designate a minimum system to protect resources and decrease budget demands, I was surprised to see the Forest Service is considering additions to the system - plus proposals to keep all existing roads "open", add wildcat roads and open closed roads. These are troubling plans, particularly the ATV trail along Blue River and road into the Escudilla Wilderness.

The Blue River route would cause damage in key riparian areas, Inventoried Roadless Areas, loach minnow critical habitat, and the Blue Range Primitive Area. The road in the Escudilla Wilderness cannot be allowed under the rule and is clearly illegal and contrary to the Wilderness Act.

I understand the maps reflect input from various sources and not necessarily the forest's proposed action. But there are already 8,100 miles of roads on the forest. As a local user of undisturbed areas, I feel strongly that closures are needed, not more roads.

I avoid areas used by off-road vehicles, which kick up dust clouds, fill whole drainages with noise, harm habitat, and pollute water. Non-motorized areas like the Escudilla Wilderness and Blue Range Primitive are sources of clean water and great recreation: hiking, camping, hunting, horse-riding. They're a refuge for people as well as vanishing wildlife; their tranquility is crucial to this role.

On the dispersed camping issue, I recognize camping opportunities add to the character of national forests. But the practice of allowing excessive cross-country travel to such sites is harmful, and the extent of sites you're considering alarms me. The area at Hart Canyon (near Dutch John) is about 1,200 acres overlapping with important habitat for Mexican spotted owls and Northern goshawks. This is an key core/corridor area linking wildlife quiet areas (Turkey Ridge and Bear Canyon) with Willow Creek and East Clear Creek. It should not be subject to off-road use.

Please, restrict the designation of dispersed camping areas to protect remaining wildlands in the forest. Instead, designate terminal routes or spurs that provide access to camping or allow camping adjacent to designated routes.

Allowing motorized vehicles in the forest's wildlands will hurt the great majority of users, who value it for its unique character rather than its motorized-sport utility, to placate a small minority. I urge you to release a Proposed Action that 1) does not include additions to the system, 2) closes routes that are degrading the land and 3) strictly limits the designation of areas for dispersed camping. The forest should prioritize protection over the call for ORV access.

We need to tell them the EXACT opposite. Let's get our letter writing going and make sure our voices are heard.

Thanks,

1BLKJP
07-23-2007, 04:40 PM
Ah, good of you to put this up here Dave. I was loggin on to do the exact same thing.

We must realize people that they are serious about opposing the Roadless Rule. However they mention new routes on the forests and the roadless rule will not even allow them to create new routes. Just manage the existing ones. Hell it was the CBD that had a large hand in the court case that in a way created the roadless rule.

Things like this are what the coalition is working for you all doing everyday. On the ground programs and people helping to keep your trails open for you to use.

GRUNT
07-23-2007, 10:28 PM
At the risk of getting stoned, (By rocks you guys, by rocks) what is the Roadless rule? I just wanna be educated when I say my 2 cents.

1BLKJP
07-24-2007, 11:54 PM
The roadless rule basically (and I mean basically because this is the utmost laymen's terms) says that there won't be new trail routes created in the forest.

Fire Ball
07-25-2007, 08:57 AM
I for one am not all that in favor of new roads. It depends on where and for what use.

I AM however VERY apposed to closing any existing trails.

It amazes me the arguments these people use. "I avoid areas used by off-road vehicles, which kick up dust clouds, fill whole drainages with noise, harm habitat, and pollute water. Non-motorized areas like the Escudilla Wilderness and Blue Range Primitive are sources of clean water and great recreation: hiking, camping, hunting, horse-riding. They're a refuge for people as well as vanishing wildlife; their tranquility is crucial to this role."

Kick up clouds of dust? This is one of the least dusty areas in the state. Vanishing wildlife? Then why are we still hunting these areas to control population? Polluting? I have new for you, campers, hikers and fishermen leave more trash out in the wilderness than anyone. I know because I see it every time I go out. Osprey and spotted owls don't care if we drive by or not.

Granted there are some troublesome people in our ranks and we need to take care of that but these people don't even have their facts straight. OH, guess what, you don't have to, you just have to convince someone you do :(

Sandee McCullen
07-29-2007, 10:53 PM
Remember:
BLM Public lands OHV Strategy dated January 2001 (most recent document) states BLM "MUST be open to NEW TRAILS for future use". Of course this does NOT mean we can go out and make trails because "we" believe we need them. What it allows for are new trails if others need to be closed; or new trails are needed to balance the impact on existing trails; or example: OHV Coalition is proposing to close one trail within FJ but to KEEP IT ON PLANS to develop as a Technical Trail in the future. At this time this trail is rated around a 3.0 but the exit is a 4.0 so it could be a hazard for the novice or unexperienced driver at this time.
Everything will require proper NEPA (Environmental Assessments) and many existing trails will now require mitigation to stabilize erosion or soils issues but NEW TRAILS are required under the OHV Strategy.

The future may bring to us exactly what the past 20 years have brought. The actual trails on the ground in 1988 when the last land use plan was approved is NOT appropriate for today's OHV recreation. There were no ATV trails nor were there specialty parks. Future needs and/or challenges call for changes.

CBD will NEVER support OHV......... even if EVERY OHV on this earth were responsible recreationists. They will continue to haunt us via our WEB pages and posts such as these. They WILL and DO use our pictures against us.... even when they are legitimate and responsible pictures. They can and do make them look to the anti-access views.

Allen
07-29-2007, 11:50 PM
Can we call The Center for Biological Diversity a threat to our sanity??