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830 From: George Andrews <gandre01@e...>
Date: Mon Apr 19, 1999 8:30am
Subject: Crown King May 1 trip
Who is leading the May 1 Crown King effort? Has a meeting place and time
been established? Is it an overnighter?
George Andrews
'82 Cherokee WT, 454TBI, TH400, QT, D44s, 35x12.50s, ARBs
Avondale, Arizona
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831 From: Leah Eliscu <eliscu@m...>
Date: Mon Apr 19, 1999 10:36am
Subject: Re: Tucson Run/Redington Loop Trip Report
Jeffrey wrote:
>
> Nice trip report Doug. I could not have said it better myself.
Yes Doug! I agree with Jeffrey. Great report!
Thanks to Scott, Brian and you
Doug for making that long trip from/back to Phoenix.
A very big thanks to Tucson members Scott and Jeffrey for
their support. This was the first time I have ever led
a run! You guys are the best!
I'm sorry I did not get to answer everyones questions
about this run, I was over welmed the last few weeks.
I feel I should have been more on top of this.
Looking foreward to more runs with the AZVJeep club!
Leah
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832 From: Leah Eliscu <eliscu@m...>
Date: Mon Apr 19, 1999 4:32pm
Subject: automatic tire deflators
This might be interest to some of you.
http://www.oasis-off-road.com/
It was up for discussion on Saturday's run :)
Leah
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833 From: <EricKool@a...>
Date: Mon Apr 19, 1999 3:26pm
Subject: Plans for Crown King May 1 trip
George,
We're definetly still on for May 1st ! I expect to bring along 2-4 other
vehicles (friends, colleagues). We're still a little too far from May 1st
for definite arrangements, but I propose the following:
Meet at 9:30 a.m. at the trail head ("T" at entrance to Lake Pleasant road
and Castle Hot Springs)
Optional, 8:00 a.m. breakfast (at old Smitty's on S/W corner of I-17 and Bell
Rd.)
Camping optional (I will go back that same evening).
Leader: Any volunteers?
Regards,
Eric Kool
(JPnDutch)
In a message dated 04/19/99 9:51:18 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
gandre01@e... writes:
> Who is leading the May 1 Crown King effort? Has a meeting place and time
> been established? Is it an overnighter?
>
> George Andrews
> '82 Cherokee WT, 454TBI, TH400, QT, D44s, 35x12.50s, ARBs
> Avondale, Arizona
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834 From: James Junkin <jjunkin@p...>
Date: Mon Apr 19, 1999 8:05pm
Subject: Re: automatic tire deflators
I have these and they are great. You calibrate them for the desired deflation pressure, then they always deflate down to that pressure. You can leave them on for 1/2 hr, so you don't even have to wait while they are deflating. The only problem is you must have your tire inflated to approximately twice the desired deflation pressure i.e. to air down to 15psi your tires must be inflated to 30 psi.
James
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From: Leah Eliscu <eliscu@mmsi.com>
To: AZ_vjc@makelist.com <AZ_vjc@makelist.com>
Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 5:27 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] automatic tire deflators
This might be interest to some of you.
http://www.oasis-off-road.com/
It was up for discussion on Saturday's run :)
Leah
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835 From: Leah Eliscu <eliscu@m...>
Date: Tue Apr 20, 1999 10:03am
Subject: YJ fender flares
I just put TJ flares on my YJ...
I am passing this on to anyone interested.
e-mail me and I will get you in touch with this
person.
Leah 94YJ
>I have a set of YJ Bushwacker 6" fender flares (brand new) that I am
>selling for $100
>let me know if you are interested...
>thanks
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836 From: <jokoolchav@a...>
Date: Tue Apr 20, 1999 0:00pm
Subject: Re: Rolls/Coves clean up
<371a96bb.50b-@p...> wrote:
Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/list/az_vjc/?start=822
> This is a clean up run set for next Sat., April 24. Trails are fine for
> a stock Jeep, and there are some challenging hill climbs for those so
> inclined.
>
> I've taken care of the paperwork w/ the Forest Service, so we're all set
> to go. Hopefully, one of the newspapers will run something this week on
> it (probably a short side line note in the local section).
>
> Please respond as to whose are coming, so I know how many maps to bring,
> and to help organize the routes we'll take.
>
> Thanks. Should be fun, and will do some good too. The area's been pretty
> trashed.
>
> DougB
>
Hello Doug My name is Joe. I am new to the Phx area. I am interested in this coves run/cleanup. However I have no clue where it is located so if you could point me in the right direction I will make every attempt to attend.
Thanx Joe
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837 From: <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Apr 20, 1999 5:37pm
Subject: New Egroup Format
Just want to say I like the new Egroup format.
See ya Saturday!
Linda
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838 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Tue Apr 20, 1999 7:52pm
Subject: Re: Rolls/Coves clean up
> >
> Hello Doug My name is Joe. I am new to the Phx area. I am interested in this coves run/cleanup. However I have no clue where it is located so if you could point me in the right direction I will make every attempt to attend.
>
> Thanx Joe
Hi Joe. Welcome to AzVJC. The Rolls/Coves are in the northeast part of
the Valley, north of the Salt River and associated lakes. It's really a
pretty easy place to get to. The simplest way would be to take SR87
(State Route 87) north out of Mesa. This is known as Country Club in
Mesa. It's also known as the Bea Line, and heads to the northeast to
Payson.
Depending on where you are in the Valley, you can get to SR87 (Country
Club) from US60...take the Country Club exit and head north through Mesa
and over the Salt River. Keep going...you'll pass Shea Blvd...keep
going...and will pass Ft. McDowell...keep going. After Ft. McDowell,
keep an eye out for signs for Bush Highway...it'll head off to the
right. Take this a fairly short distance and you'll see a sign for
Butcher Jones Park to the left. Take this road, and you'll end up in tha
park parking lot. We'll be there at 9am.
Hope you can make it.
Doug
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839 From: <Revolvr@a...>
Date: Tue Apr 20, 1999 4:51pm
Subject: Re: Tucson Run/Redington Loop Trip Report
Sounds like a great trip! Wish I could have been there, but my honeydo list
was at critical mass that weekend. Let's do it again sometime. Look forward
to seeing pictures.
-- Dan
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840 From: <TLCU72096@a...>
Date: Tue Apr 20, 1999 5:07pm
Subject: Hello!
It's been a while since I have been on line, so I just wanted to say hello to
the group, and say thanks for doing the trash pickups. This helps our
credibility as a group a lot!
Hope to get out again soon, but we just had a little girl, so it will be a
while.
Larry & Tammy Curell
94 YJ - now has reverse!!!!!!!
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841 From: Greg Clark <gdclark@u...>
Date: Tue Apr 20, 1999 9:04pm
Subject: Re: Tucson Run/Redington Loop Trip Report
have to agree with Dan - I'm sorry i missed it too - have been bussy with birthday's
will have family in town this weekend so won't make it to the coves clean up, ya'll
be sure to pick up some trash for me
anyone interested in doing Ajax trail on May 1 - the trail is south of Florence junction
should be about a class 4
Greg 89YJ
Revolvr@aol.com wrote:
Sounds like a great trip! Wish I could have been there, but my honeydo list
was at critical mass that weekend. Let's do it again sometime. Look forward
to seeing pictures.
-- Dan
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842 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Tue Apr 20, 1999 10:16pm
Subject: TK Sliders
A couple of people have asked me lately about the TK Sliders (rear sway
bar disconnects for TJ's, YJ's, and I believe XJ's). I was able to get a
20% club discount for AzVJC members, which hopefully should still be in
affect. Timothy Kyle (TK) is the inventor, and you can order directly
from him if your interested:
http://Fly.To/MuddyJeep
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843 From: nnote <nnote@n...>
Date: Thu Apr 22, 1999 1:13am
Subject: Rear sway bar etc..
Has anyone used these new revolver shakles? I think it is "metal made right" that makes them. From what I have seen it looks like a heck of a product. Now a club discount on that would be killer! I could replace this shackle lift...
How effective is unhooking the rear sway bar?
Nick
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844 From: <MZabritski@a...>
Date: Wed Apr 21, 1999 4:46am
Subject: Trip'in
Heard an Ajax run mentioned on May 1st. I'm not sure if I'm capable of
running a class 4. But, i'm really interested in doing something next
weekend. Looking forward to the May 8th Crown King overnighter, but don't
want to do Crown King two weekends in a row.
Having to bow out of this weekends clean-up due to repairs (gotta love
warranty).
Anyone else done Ajax? Can I do this trail (for those who know me)?
Melinda
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845 From: <minihummer@w...>
Date: Wed Apr 21, 1999 6:27pm
Subject: How do you reset digest mode?
Doug,
When the Egroup format changed I no longer get an email with a description of the latest emails. Is there a way to turn this feature back on? My last email was from message 820.
Thanks,
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846 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Wed Apr 21, 1999 8:24pm
Subject: Re: Trip'in
MZabritski@a... wrote:
>
> Heard an Ajax run mentioned on May 1st. I'm not sure if I'm capable of
> running a class 4. But, i'm really interested in doing something next
> weekend. Looking forward to the May 8th Crown King overnighter, but don't
> want to do Crown King two weekends in a row.
>
> Having to bow out of this weekends clean-up due to repairs (gotta love
> warranty).
>
> Anyone else done Ajax? Can I do this trail (for those who know me)?
>
> Melinda
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lower Ajax is a strong 3+, I believe, and upper Ajax is, I think, a 4. I
havn't done them yet myself, so I'm going from memory. I would think
they'd be pretty tough for you w/o more of a lift. However, there is a
trail that parallels the Ajax trail (which is actually a wash), that is
passable w/ a stock Jeep.
Doug
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847 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Wed Apr 21, 1999 8:37pm
Subject: Re: Rear sway bar etc..
nnote wrote:
>
>
> ...How effective is unhooking the rear sway bar?...
> Nick
>
It certainly helps, though it's no where as dramatic as front sway bar
disconnects. The rear sway bar (at least on the TJ) is much lighter than
the front. However, I really do like the TK's. They do allow more rear
articulation...keeping the Jeep more level on uneven terrain.
Doug
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848 From: <MZabritski@a...>
Date: Thu Apr 22, 1999 1:00pm
Subject: In memory of
From a mourner in Texas .. . .
Turn On Your Lights for America
As I was driving to work this morning I passed by an elementary school and
noticed that the flag had been lowered to half-mast in memory of the students
and their families in Littleton, Colorado. What a wonderful gesture that
simple act is. But, I thought to myself, what can I do to show others that I
too am deeply affected by this tragedy.
Turn on a light. Turn on my headlights. Turn on my porch light. But how do I
get this message to others? Use the Internet. I'm sending this message to
everyone on my email list and am asking that you do the same.
I am going to turn on my headlights on Friday morning on my way to work, on
Saturday as I run my errands and especially on Sunday as I go to my place of
worship. I'm also going to turn on my porch lights on Friday, Saturday and
Sunday night.
I'm going to turn on my lights for the families in Littleton to show them
that I care about them, that I feel the pain and hurt and heartache. I'm
going to turn on my lights for what is right about this country.
I'm going to turn on my lights against the darkness, the anger and the
prejudice. I hope you will join me. One light is not much but put them
together and we can light up the world.
Turn on your lights - show that you stand for what is right about America.
And as you turn on your headlights and porch lights this weekend; turn on the
light in your heart and soul. Show the world that this is not what America is
all about. With your light shining bright, along with others, we can come
together (if only for a brief moment) and combat the evil that confronts us
all.
Please pass this email on to everyone on your address list. Lets see if we
can get this message to everyone across this great country before Friday
morning and use lets the Internet for what it was intended - good.
> >>>> Turn on your headlights
> >>>> Friday, Saturday and Sunday
> >>>> April 23, 24, and 25
> >>>>
> >>>> Turn on your porch lights
> >>>> Friday, Saturday, and Sunday night
> >>>> April 23, 24, and 25
> >>>
Light up America. Show that you care about what is right about our country.
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849 From: Jeffrey <jeffrey@a...>
Date: Thu Apr 22, 1999 9:19pm
Subject: Pictures are posted from the Redington Run.
Hello All.
I have posted the pictures from the Redington Loop run we did here in Tucson
this past weekend. Doug posted the trip report on Monday and now the
pictures are up. Just follow the link below and click on the Redington Loop
link on the main page.
http://www.azstarnet.com/~jeffrey
Enjoy,
Jeffrey
"...it's all fun and games until
someone loses an eye......"
Jeepin' in AZ - http://www.azstarnet.com/~jeffrey
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850 From: <osmtj@p...>
Date: Thu Apr 22, 1999 10:59pm
Subject: Re: Pictures are posted from the Redington Run.
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I must say that Jeffrey takes some excellent photos and definitely should be invited to all the runs :)
Of course I'm especially fond of the third pic on the Reddington Loop page.
Thanks Jeffrey, I'm looking forward to future events with Leah, Scott, Doug and yourself.
Scott Kruize
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851 From: nnote <nnote@n...>
Date: Fri Apr 23, 1999 10:49pm
Subject: Coke ovens
At my work (Image Craft, an imaging lab) we do alot of what's called making a copy neg. It involves basiclly taking pictures of very old pictures or books or paintings, whatever you want to reproduce photographicly. Tonight we did copy work of some old pictures in a book. The book was "Walker district historical notes" by a Mrs. R J Potter, from Prescott. It was written in 1957. The ID number for the book (it is owned by the Phoenix library) is g979.13. Anyways, I was flipping through it and came upon a picture of a coke oven identicle to the ones on the coke oven, martinaz canyon run. It only had a few sentences describing it but apparently this one had been built in 1880 and they were called "Date Burners". Somehow they were used in mining silver and did not burn coke but burned charcoal because there were no trains nearby to bring in the coke. It said this was one of very few left in Arizona and that was the end of that short paragraph. I thought I would relay this information because I didn't think no one really knew to much about them, I guess we still don't know alot!
I'll see ya'll on Saturday at the coves. I think I will bring my mother along for the adventure. She really enjoys the thrill of being offroad!
Nick
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852 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Fri Apr 23, 1999 5:55am
Subject: Re: Pictures are posted from the Redington Run.
Jeffrey wrote:
>
> Hello All.
>
> I have posted the pictures from the Redington Loop run we did here in Tucson
> this past weekend. Doug posted the trip report on Monday and now the
> pictures are up. Just follow the link below and click on the Redington Loop
> link on the main page.
>
> http://www.azstarnet.com/~jeffrey
>
> Enjoy,
> Jeffrey
Thanks Jeff, for the photos. They turned out great!
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853 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Fri Apr 23, 1999 5:57am
Subject: Re: Coke ovens
nnote wrote:
>
> At my work (Image Craft, an imaging lab) we do alot of what's called
> making a copy neg. It involves basiclly taking pictures of very old
> pictures or books or paintings, whatever you want to reproduce
> photographicly. Tonight we did copy work of some old pictures in a
> book. The book was "Walker district historical notes" by a Mrs. R J
> Potter, from Prescott. It was written in 1957. The ID number for the
> book (it is owned by the Phoenix library) is g979.13. Anyways, I was
> flipping through it and came upon a picture of a coke oven identicle
> to the ones on the coke oven, martinaz canyon run. It only had a few
> sentences describing it but apparently this one had been built in 1880
> and they were called "Date Burners". Somehow they were used in mining
> silver and did not burn coke but burned charcoal because there were no
> trains nearby to bring in the coke. It said this was one of very few
> left in Arizona and that was the end of that short paragraph. I
> thought I would relay this information because I didn't think no one
> really knew to much about them, I guess we still don't know alot!
>
> I'll see ya'll on Saturday at the coves. I think I will bring my
> mother along for the adventure. She really enjoys the thrill of being
> offroad!
>
> Nick
Interesting...thanks for the info. As it turns out, the Coke Ovens we
know of were not built for coke, but to make charcoal. How they came to
be known as the Coke Ovens, I'm not certain.
See ya Saturday
Doug
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854 From: yucca-man <yucca-man@j...>
Date: Sat Apr 24, 1999 2:45am
Subject: Re: Arizona Jeepers: Jeep rental and trail Info needed
I've copied your post to my Club, and maybe someone can give you some
further advice about local rentals, etc. One reply to your post mentioned
the amount of public land in AZ, including reservations.. One strong piece
of advice is to NOT drive anyhting except the public (paved) roads in the
reservations unless you are a Native American Indian. The land is treated
as being part of a sovereign nation, and outsiders are tolerated if passing
through on the paved roads or headed to the new casinos.
The AZ-VJC is doing a run to Crown King May 1, planned as an overnighter but
easily done in one day. Crown King/Lake Pleasant is north of Phoenix.
Good luck and Njoy AZ!
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Linyee Shum wrote in message ...
On my way back to Philly, I will be stopping by Phoenix for a few days
next week, and am thinking to spend a Saturday (May 1) in Sedona. Do you
folks know of any place in Phoenix or Sedona that I can rent a late model
Jeep (TJ will be nice) to do some easy wheeling with nice view. Any place
or trails I should check out within a few hours drive from Phoenix?
While in Sedona, I would like to check out the RubiconCargo Trailer. I
was told that they have a testing ground there. Who knows, may be I can
meet Mr.. Ewald there. TIA.
Linyee
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855 From: <MZabritski@a...>
Date: Sat Apr 24, 1999 11:55am
Subject: Re: Arizona Jeepers: Jeep rental and trail Info needed
Regarding driving on the reservations - most of the Indian Nations will allow
you to purchase a land use permit that lasts for a few days. With the permit
you are allowed access to the off-road trails that go through the
reservations. Of course, tread lightly is definitely taken to heart.
I ran into this issue when looking at doing some trails south of the grand
canyon through one of the reservations.
For more information just contact the particular nation directly.
Melinda
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856 From: Jon Loveless <jloveless@e...>
Date: Sun Apr 25, 1999 4:22am
Subject: Coves Cleanup photos
The Coves Cleanup was fun and very productive. Thanks Doug and everyone else who attended.
41 photos can be found at the following PhotPoint address:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=22547&a=151021
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Jon Loveless
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857 From: Len Sullivan <kermit@f...>
Date: Sun Apr 25, 1999 10:40am
Subject: Re: Coves Cleanup photos
Thanks Jon! I'll pound out a trip report later today for the folks that couldn't make it. Did anyone happen to get pics of the group going over those two little rocks with the small space between them just before lunch?
Len Sullivan
78 J-10
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Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 4:26 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Coves Cleanup photos
The Coves Cleanup was fun and very productive. Thanks Doug and everyone else who attended.
41 photos can be found at the following PhotPoint address:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=22547&a=151021
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Jon Loveless
602-816-6240
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858 From: Len Sullivan <kermit@f...>
Date: Sun Apr 25, 1999 11:34am
Subject: question about yesterday
Hello again
Since I made the run yesterday without a CB (I know, I know, but I have to
wait until payday to replace the one that was stolen), I didn't get to hear
the "Len's stuck on the hill" call. Missed my big chance to reply that
"reports of my death are greatly exaggerated." For my trail report, does
anyone remember what was actually said? I'd like to include it.
Thanks
Len Sullivan
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859 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Sun Apr 25, 1999 4:47pm
Subject: Test
My computer's on the fritz, so I've just installed a new one, w/ a different browser, and am sending this test to see is it goes through.
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830 From: George Andrews <gandre01@e...>
Date: Mon Apr 19, 1999 8:30am
Subject: Crown King May 1 trip
Who is leading the May 1 Crown King effort? Has a meeting place and time
been established? Is it an overnighter?
George Andrews
'82 Cherokee WT, 454TBI, TH400, QT, D44s, 35x12.50s, ARBs
Avondale, Arizona
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831 From: Leah Eliscu <eliscu@m...>
Date: Mon Apr 19, 1999 10:36am
Subject: Re: Tucson Run/Redington Loop Trip Report
Jeffrey wrote:
>
> Nice trip report Doug. I could not have said it better myself.
Yes Doug! I agree with Jeffrey. Great report!
Thanks to Scott, Brian and you
Doug for making that long trip from/back to Phoenix.
A very big thanks to Tucson members Scott and Jeffrey for
their support. This was the first time I have ever led
a run! You guys are the best!
I'm sorry I did not get to answer everyones questions
about this run, I was over welmed the last few weeks.
I feel I should have been more on top of this.
Looking foreward to more runs with the AZVJeep club!
Leah
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832 From: Leah Eliscu <eliscu@m...>
Date: Mon Apr 19, 1999 4:32pm
Subject: automatic tire deflators
This might be interest to some of you.
http://www.oasis-off-road.com/
It was up for discussion on Saturday's run :)
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833 From: <EricKool@a...>
Date: Mon Apr 19, 1999 3:26pm
Subject: Plans for Crown King May 1 trip
George,
We're definetly still on for May 1st ! I expect to bring along 2-4 other
vehicles (friends, colleagues). We're still a little too far from May 1st
for definite arrangements, but I propose the following:
Meet at 9:30 a.m. at the trail head ("T" at entrance to Lake Pleasant road
and Castle Hot Springs)
Optional, 8:00 a.m. breakfast (at old Smitty's on S/W corner of I-17 and Bell
Rd.)
Camping optional (I will go back that same evening).
Leader: Any volunteers?
Regards,
Eric Kool
(JPnDutch)
In a message dated 04/19/99 9:51:18 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
gandre01@e... writes:
> Who is leading the May 1 Crown King effort? Has a meeting place and time
> been established? Is it an overnighter?
>
> George Andrews
> '82 Cherokee WT, 454TBI, TH400, QT, D44s, 35x12.50s, ARBs
> Avondale, Arizona
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834 From: James Junkin <jjunkin@p...>
Date: Mon Apr 19, 1999 8:05pm
Subject: Re: automatic tire deflators
I have these and they are great. You calibrate them for the desired deflation pressure, then they always deflate down to that pressure. You can leave them on for 1/2 hr, so you don't even have to wait while they are deflating. The only problem is you must have your tire inflated to approximately twice the desired deflation pressure i.e. to air down to 15psi your tires must be inflated to 30 psi.
James
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From: Leah Eliscu <eliscu@mmsi.com>
To: AZ_vjc@makelist.com <AZ_vjc@makelist.com>
Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 5:27 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] automatic tire deflators
This might be interest to some of you.
http://www.oasis-off-road.com/
It was up for discussion on Saturday's run :)
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835 From: Leah Eliscu <eliscu@m...>
Date: Tue Apr 20, 1999 10:03am
Subject: YJ fender flares
I just put TJ flares on my YJ...
I am passing this on to anyone interested.
e-mail me and I will get you in touch with this
person.
Leah 94YJ
>I have a set of YJ Bushwacker 6" fender flares (brand new) that I am
>selling for $100
>let me know if you are interested...
>thanks
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836 From: <jokoolchav@a...>
Date: Tue Apr 20, 1999 0:00pm
Subject: Re: Rolls/Coves clean up
<371a96bb.50b-@p...> wrote:
Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/list/az_vjc/?start=822
> This is a clean up run set for next Sat., April 24. Trails are fine for
> a stock Jeep, and there are some challenging hill climbs for those so
> inclined.
>
> I've taken care of the paperwork w/ the Forest Service, so we're all set
> to go. Hopefully, one of the newspapers will run something this week on
> it (probably a short side line note in the local section).
>
> Please respond as to whose are coming, so I know how many maps to bring,
> and to help organize the routes we'll take.
>
> Thanks. Should be fun, and will do some good too. The area's been pretty
> trashed.
>
> DougB
>
Hello Doug My name is Joe. I am new to the Phx area. I am interested in this coves run/cleanup. However I have no clue where it is located so if you could point me in the right direction I will make every attempt to attend.
Thanx Joe
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837 From: <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Apr 20, 1999 5:37pm
Subject: New Egroup Format
Just want to say I like the new Egroup format.
See ya Saturday!
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838 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Tue Apr 20, 1999 7:52pm
Subject: Re: Rolls/Coves clean up
> >
> Hello Doug My name is Joe. I am new to the Phx area. I am interested in this coves run/cleanup. However I have no clue where it is located so if you could point me in the right direction I will make every attempt to attend.
>
> Thanx Joe
Hi Joe. Welcome to AzVJC. The Rolls/Coves are in the northeast part of
the Valley, north of the Salt River and associated lakes. It's really a
pretty easy place to get to. The simplest way would be to take SR87
(State Route 87) north out of Mesa. This is known as Country Club in
Mesa. It's also known as the Bea Line, and heads to the northeast to
Payson.
Depending on where you are in the Valley, you can get to SR87 (Country
Club) from US60...take the Country Club exit and head north through Mesa
and over the Salt River. Keep going...you'll pass Shea Blvd...keep
going...and will pass Ft. McDowell...keep going. After Ft. McDowell,
keep an eye out for signs for Bush Highway...it'll head off to the
right. Take this a fairly short distance and you'll see a sign for
Butcher Jones Park to the left. Take this road, and you'll end up in tha
park parking lot. We'll be there at 9am.
Hope you can make it.
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839 From: <Revolvr@a...>
Date: Tue Apr 20, 1999 4:51pm
Subject: Re: Tucson Run/Redington Loop Trip Report
Sounds like a great trip! Wish I could have been there, but my honeydo list
was at critical mass that weekend. Let's do it again sometime. Look forward
to seeing pictures.
-- Dan
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840 From: <TLCU72096@a...>
Date: Tue Apr 20, 1999 5:07pm
Subject: Hello!
It's been a while since I have been on line, so I just wanted to say hello to
the group, and say thanks for doing the trash pickups. This helps our
credibility as a group a lot!
Hope to get out again soon, but we just had a little girl, so it will be a
while.
Larry & Tammy Curell
94 YJ - now has reverse!!!!!!!
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841 From: Greg Clark <gdclark@u...>
Date: Tue Apr 20, 1999 9:04pm
Subject: Re: Tucson Run/Redington Loop Trip Report
have to agree with Dan - I'm sorry i missed it too - have been bussy with birthday's
will have family in town this weekend so won't make it to the coves clean up, ya'll
be sure to pick up some trash for me
anyone interested in doing Ajax trail on May 1 - the trail is south of Florence junction
should be about a class 4
Greg 89YJ
Revolvr@aol.com wrote:
Sounds like a great trip! Wish I could have been there, but my honeydo list
was at critical mass that weekend. Let's do it again sometime. Look forward
to seeing pictures.
-- Dan
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842 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Tue Apr 20, 1999 10:16pm
Subject: TK Sliders
A couple of people have asked me lately about the TK Sliders (rear sway
bar disconnects for TJ's, YJ's, and I believe XJ's). I was able to get a
20% club discount for AzVJC members, which hopefully should still be in
affect. Timothy Kyle (TK) is the inventor, and you can order directly
from him if your interested:
http://Fly.To/MuddyJeep
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843 From: nnote <nnote@n...>
Date: Thu Apr 22, 1999 1:13am
Subject: Rear sway bar etc..
Has anyone used these new revolver shakles? I think it is "metal made right" that makes them. From what I have seen it looks like a heck of a product. Now a club discount on that would be killer! I could replace this shackle lift...
How effective is unhooking the rear sway bar?
Nick
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844 From: <MZabritski@a...>
Date: Wed Apr 21, 1999 4:46am
Subject: Trip'in
Heard an Ajax run mentioned on May 1st. I'm not sure if I'm capable of
running a class 4. But, i'm really interested in doing something next
weekend. Looking forward to the May 8th Crown King overnighter, but don't
want to do Crown King two weekends in a row.
Having to bow out of this weekends clean-up due to repairs (gotta love
warranty).
Anyone else done Ajax? Can I do this trail (for those who know me)?
Melinda
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845 From: <minihummer@w...>
Date: Wed Apr 21, 1999 6:27pm
Subject: How do you reset digest mode?
Doug,
When the Egroup format changed I no longer get an email with a description of the latest emails. Is there a way to turn this feature back on? My last email was from message 820.
Thanks,
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846 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Wed Apr 21, 1999 8:24pm
Subject: Re: Trip'in
MZabritski@a... wrote:
>
> Heard an Ajax run mentioned on May 1st. I'm not sure if I'm capable of
> running a class 4. But, i'm really interested in doing something next
> weekend. Looking forward to the May 8th Crown King overnighter, but don't
> want to do Crown King two weekends in a row.
>
> Having to bow out of this weekends clean-up due to repairs (gotta love
> warranty).
>
> Anyone else done Ajax? Can I do this trail (for those who know me)?
>
> Melinda
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lower Ajax is a strong 3+, I believe, and upper Ajax is, I think, a 4. I
havn't done them yet myself, so I'm going from memory. I would think
they'd be pretty tough for you w/o more of a lift. However, there is a
trail that parallels the Ajax trail (which is actually a wash), that is
passable w/ a stock Jeep.
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847 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Wed Apr 21, 1999 8:37pm
Subject: Re: Rear sway bar etc..
nnote wrote:
>
>
> ...How effective is unhooking the rear sway bar?...
> Nick
>
It certainly helps, though it's no where as dramatic as front sway bar
disconnects. The rear sway bar (at least on the TJ) is much lighter than
the front. However, I really do like the TK's. They do allow more rear
articulation...keeping the Jeep more level on uneven terrain.
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848 From: <MZabritski@a...>
Date: Thu Apr 22, 1999 1:00pm
Subject: In memory of
From a mourner in Texas .. . .
Turn On Your Lights for America
As I was driving to work this morning I passed by an elementary school and
noticed that the flag had been lowered to half-mast in memory of the students
and their families in Littleton, Colorado. What a wonderful gesture that
simple act is. But, I thought to myself, what can I do to show others that I
too am deeply affected by this tragedy.
Turn on a light. Turn on my headlights. Turn on my porch light. But how do I
get this message to others? Use the Internet. I'm sending this message to
everyone on my email list and am asking that you do the same.
I am going to turn on my headlights on Friday morning on my way to work, on
Saturday as I run my errands and especially on Sunday as I go to my place of
worship. I'm also going to turn on my porch lights on Friday, Saturday and
Sunday night.
I'm going to turn on my lights for the families in Littleton to show them
that I care about them, that I feel the pain and hurt and heartache. I'm
going to turn on my lights for what is right about this country.
I'm going to turn on my lights against the darkness, the anger and the
prejudice. I hope you will join me. One light is not much but put them
together and we can light up the world.
Turn on your lights - show that you stand for what is right about America.
And as you turn on your headlights and porch lights this weekend; turn on the
light in your heart and soul. Show the world that this is not what America is
all about. With your light shining bright, along with others, we can come
together (if only for a brief moment) and combat the evil that confronts us
all.
Please pass this email on to everyone on your address list. Lets see if we
can get this message to everyone across this great country before Friday
morning and use lets the Internet for what it was intended - good.
> >>>> Turn on your headlights
> >>>> Friday, Saturday and Sunday
> >>>> April 23, 24, and 25
> >>>>
> >>>> Turn on your porch lights
> >>>> Friday, Saturday, and Sunday night
> >>>> April 23, 24, and 25
> >>>
Light up America. Show that you care about what is right about our country.
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849 From: Jeffrey <jeffrey@a...>
Date: Thu Apr 22, 1999 9:19pm
Subject: Pictures are posted from the Redington Run.
Hello All.
I have posted the pictures from the Redington Loop run we did here in Tucson
this past weekend. Doug posted the trip report on Monday and now the
pictures are up. Just follow the link below and click on the Redington Loop
link on the main page.
http://www.azstarnet.com/~jeffrey
Enjoy,
Jeffrey
"...it's all fun and games until
someone loses an eye......"
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850 From: <osmtj@p...>
Date: Thu Apr 22, 1999 10:59pm
Subject: Re: Pictures are posted from the Redington Run.
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I must say that Jeffrey takes some excellent photos and definitely should be invited to all the runs :)
Of course I'm especially fond of the third pic on the Reddington Loop page.
Thanks Jeffrey, I'm looking forward to future events with Leah, Scott, Doug and yourself.
Scott Kruize
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851 From: nnote <nnote@n...>
Date: Fri Apr 23, 1999 10:49pm
Subject: Coke ovens
At my work (Image Craft, an imaging lab) we do alot of what's called making a copy neg. It involves basiclly taking pictures of very old pictures or books or paintings, whatever you want to reproduce photographicly. Tonight we did copy work of some old pictures in a book. The book was "Walker district historical notes" by a Mrs. R J Potter, from Prescott. It was written in 1957. The ID number for the book (it is owned by the Phoenix library) is g979.13. Anyways, I was flipping through it and came upon a picture of a coke oven identicle to the ones on the coke oven, martinaz canyon run. It only had a few sentences describing it but apparently this one had been built in 1880 and they were called "Date Burners". Somehow they were used in mining silver and did not burn coke but burned charcoal because there were no trains nearby to bring in the coke. It said this was one of very few left in Arizona and that was the end of that short paragraph. I thought I would relay this information because I didn't think no one really knew to much about them, I guess we still don't know alot!
I'll see ya'll on Saturday at the coves. I think I will bring my mother along for the adventure. She really enjoys the thrill of being offroad!
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852 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Fri Apr 23, 1999 5:55am
Subject: Re: Pictures are posted from the Redington Run.
Jeffrey wrote:
>
> Hello All.
>
> I have posted the pictures from the Redington Loop run we did here in Tucson
> this past weekend. Doug posted the trip report on Monday and now the
> pictures are up. Just follow the link below and click on the Redington Loop
> link on the main page.
>
> http://www.azstarnet.com/~jeffrey
>
> Enjoy,
> Jeffrey
Thanks Jeff, for the photos. They turned out great!
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853 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Fri Apr 23, 1999 5:57am
Subject: Re: Coke ovens
nnote wrote:
>
> At my work (Image Craft, an imaging lab) we do alot of what's called
> making a copy neg. It involves basiclly taking pictures of very old
> pictures or books or paintings, whatever you want to reproduce
> photographicly. Tonight we did copy work of some old pictures in a
> book. The book was "Walker district historical notes" by a Mrs. R J
> Potter, from Prescott. It was written in 1957. The ID number for the
> book (it is owned by the Phoenix library) is g979.13. Anyways, I was
> flipping through it and came upon a picture of a coke oven identicle
> to the ones on the coke oven, martinaz canyon run. It only had a few
> sentences describing it but apparently this one had been built in 1880
> and they were called "Date Burners". Somehow they were used in mining
> silver and did not burn coke but burned charcoal because there were no
> trains nearby to bring in the coke. It said this was one of very few
> left in Arizona and that was the end of that short paragraph. I
> thought I would relay this information because I didn't think no one
> really knew to much about them, I guess we still don't know alot!
>
> I'll see ya'll on Saturday at the coves. I think I will bring my
> mother along for the adventure. She really enjoys the thrill of being
> offroad!
>
> Nick
Interesting...thanks for the info. As it turns out, the Coke Ovens we
know of were not built for coke, but to make charcoal. How they came to
be known as the Coke Ovens, I'm not certain.
See ya Saturday
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854 From: yucca-man <yucca-man@j...>
Date: Sat Apr 24, 1999 2:45am
Subject: Re: Arizona Jeepers: Jeep rental and trail Info needed
I've copied your post to my Club, and maybe someone can give you some
further advice about local rentals, etc. One reply to your post mentioned
the amount of public land in AZ, including reservations.. One strong piece
of advice is to NOT drive anyhting except the public (paved) roads in the
reservations unless you are a Native American Indian. The land is treated
as being part of a sovereign nation, and outsiders are tolerated if passing
through on the paved roads or headed to the new casinos.
The AZ-VJC is doing a run to Crown King May 1, planned as an overnighter but
easily done in one day. Crown King/Lake Pleasant is north of Phoenix.
Good luck and Njoy AZ!
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Linyee Shum wrote in message ...
On my way back to Philly, I will be stopping by Phoenix for a few days
next week, and am thinking to spend a Saturday (May 1) in Sedona. Do you
folks know of any place in Phoenix or Sedona that I can rent a late model
Jeep (TJ will be nice) to do some easy wheeling with nice view. Any place
or trails I should check out within a few hours drive from Phoenix?
While in Sedona, I would like to check out the RubiconCargo Trailer. I
was told that they have a testing ground there. Who knows, may be I can
meet Mr.. Ewald there. TIA.
Linyee
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855 From: <MZabritski@a...>
Date: Sat Apr 24, 1999 11:55am
Subject: Re: Arizona Jeepers: Jeep rental and trail Info needed
Regarding driving on the reservations - most of the Indian Nations will allow
you to purchase a land use permit that lasts for a few days. With the permit
you are allowed access to the off-road trails that go through the
reservations. Of course, tread lightly is definitely taken to heart.
I ran into this issue when looking at doing some trails south of the grand
canyon through one of the reservations.
For more information just contact the particular nation directly.
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856 From: Jon Loveless <jloveless@e...>
Date: Sun Apr 25, 1999 4:22am
Subject: Coves Cleanup photos
The Coves Cleanup was fun and very productive. Thanks Doug and everyone else who attended.
41 photos can be found at the following PhotPoint address:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=22547&a=151021
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Jon Loveless
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857 From: Len Sullivan <kermit@f...>
Date: Sun Apr 25, 1999 10:40am
Subject: Re: Coves Cleanup photos
Thanks Jon! I'll pound out a trip report later today for the folks that couldn't make it. Did anyone happen to get pics of the group going over those two little rocks with the small space between them just before lunch?
Len Sullivan
78 J-10
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To: az_vjc@makelist.com <az_vjc@makelist.com>
Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 4:26 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Coves Cleanup photos
The Coves Cleanup was fun and very productive. Thanks Doug and everyone else who attended.
41 photos can be found at the following PhotPoint address:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=22547&a=151021
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Jon Loveless
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858 From: Len Sullivan <kermit@f...>
Date: Sun Apr 25, 1999 11:34am
Subject: question about yesterday
Hello again
Since I made the run yesterday without a CB (I know, I know, but I have to
wait until payday to replace the one that was stolen), I didn't get to hear
the "Len's stuck on the hill" call. Missed my big chance to reply that
"reports of my death are greatly exaggerated." For my trail report, does
anyone remember what was actually said? I'd like to include it.
Thanks
Len Sullivan
78 J-10
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859 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Sun Apr 25, 1999 4:47pm
Subject: Test
My computer's on the fritz, so I've just installed a new one, w/ a different browser, and am sending this test to see is it goes through.
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