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710 From: <minihummer@w...>
Date: Mon Mar 22, 1999 8:52pm
Subject: Cherry Creek
Just want to say I had a great time on the Cherry Creek Trail and am looking forward to more trips up north as the temperatures start to climb!
I am planning a trip to Dupont Cabin in July. Will let the group know more as we get closer to July.
Leah: Is Charouleau Gap a good warm weather trail?
If all works well, I'll be on the Woodpecker Trail this weekend.
See ya!
Linda
93 ZJ Ltd
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711 From: <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Mar 23, 1999 6:32am
Subject: Mystery tracks
I mentioned the bird tracks we saw on the Cherry Creek Trail to Steve (significant other who is currently on assignment in Seattle). He said they were probably wild turkey tracks. Wild turkeys can weigh upwards of 40-lbs. Since the tracks we saw were created when the road was wet, it would be logical to assume that a 40-lb bird could leave a pretty deep track.
The emu theory sounded pretty good too!
Linda
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712 From: <sehall@h...>
Date: Tue Mar 23, 1999 8:15am
Subject: CrownKing Trip???
Is there a trip planned for CrownKing soon?
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713 From: Leah Eliscu <eliscu@m...>
Date: Tue Mar 23, 1999 3:16pm
Subject: Re: Cherry Creek
Linda,
I have been through the Gap in the middle of summer and in
heavy blowing snow. the Gap would be a great WARM weather
run! In hot weather, it is very nice as a night run!
We did a night run last July, all I can is WOW! the
lighting in the distance and the trail after a fresh rain...
That run was voted as best run of 1998 by the TRRs.
Hope that helps.
Leah 94YJ
minihummer@w... wrote:
> Leah: Is Charouleau Gap a good warm weather trail?
>
> If all works well, I'll be on the Woodpecker Trail this weekend.
>
> See ya!
> Linda
> 93 ZJ Ltd
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714 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Mar 23, 1999 6:21pm
Subject: Re: Cherry Creek
Sound like a trip the AZVJC needs to do sometime later this year.
Linda
Leah Eliscu wrote:
> Linda,
> I have been through the Gap in the middle of summer and in
> heavy blowing snow. the Gap would be a great WARM weather
> run! In hot weather, it is very nice as a night run!
> We did a night run last July, all I can is WOW! the
> lighting in the distance and the trail after a fresh rain...
> That run was voted as best run of 1998 by the TRRs.
> Hope that helps.
>
> Leah 94YJ
>
> minihummer@w... wrote:
>
> > Leah: Is Charouleau Gap a good warm weather trail?
> >
> > If all works well, I'll be on the Woodpecker Trail this weekend.
> >
> > See ya!
> > Linda
> > 93 ZJ Ltd
> >
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715 From: <daballard@p...>
Date: Tue Mar 23, 1999 8:30pm
Subject: Re: Back Door Trail to Woodpecker Mine and points north
I've been having trouble posting to the List Server, so I'm sending this note from the web page. Hope it makes it.
The trail is actually upper Woodpecker. I had been confusing Ajax Trail w/ Woodpecker. It's a great trail...class 4. As to tire size, I've done it w/ 32's and a 3" lift (TJ), but Linda (w/ 31's and a 4.5 inch lift has done this before. I'd think that at least a l/s rear would be needed.
As to starting time, we're set for 8:30 at Florence Junction Texaco. Let me know if you need directions.
DougB
98TJ
> Greetings from Tucson! There are a few of us here that want
> to go. If I can get enough people to show up we will caravan
> up to the meeting place together. I will let you know as the
> date gets a little closer.
>
> Tucson meeting place is: Oracle and Magee in front of
> Trader Joe's. I will be leaving at 6:30 AM from there!
> I use CB channel 4.
>
> Doug, is there a vehicle requirement (tire size, lockers, so on)
> for the class 4 trip you can recomend?
>
> Thanks, Leah 94YJ
>
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716 From: Len Sullivan <kermit@f...>
Date: Tue Mar 23, 1999 8:34pm
Subject: Re: New Member
Welcome to the group! What are "Air Tubes" and "Rock-its?" I'm not up on
stuff for those new-fangled little Jeeps y'all drive...
Len Sullivan
78 J-10
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From: sehall@h... <sehall@h...>
To: az_vjc@egroups.com <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Date: Monday, March 22, 1999 7:20 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] New Member
>Hi everyone,
>Just join last week. I live in the Phoenix area and have a 98TJ with minor
mods (skids, tires, TC Air Tube, TC Rock-its & coil lift).
>
>I noticed a Crown King run being planned but I am not sure how this works.
Who sets dates and times? Does anyone post trips in the calendar?
>
>Any info would be appreciated....
>
>Rick
>
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717 From: nnote <nnote@n...>
Date: Wed Mar 24, 1999 0:12pm
Subject: Links
Check out this link. There is some excellent trail info here.
www.gorp.com/gorp/location/az/az.htm
Also another link I was told to repost.
www.terraserver.microsoft.com
Also an atachment of a few AZ_VJC members taking a break at BP cabin off the Cherry Creek trail.
Nick
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718 From: <sehall@h...>
Date: Wed Mar 24, 1999 6:59am
Subject: Re: New Member
Those are brand name parts from Turbo City (TC):
RockIts: Rocker panel bars that are strong enough to be jacked with a HiLift jack and provide a step up. Similar to the tubes that you see on the sides of Jeeps but much stronger. They bolt to the frame but don't reduce clearance and haven't bent yet when you hit them hard.
AirTube: A legal way to mount a K&N air filter to your throttle body.
Rick
<01be75af$a21a1ee0$1a0afad-@kermit> wrote:
Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/list/az_vjc/?start=716
> Welcome to the group! What are "Air Tubes" and "Rock-its?" I'm not up on
> stuff for those new-fangled little Jeeps y'all drive...
>
> Len Sullivan
> 78 J-10
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sehall@h... <sehall@h...>
> To: az_vjc@egroups.com <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> Date: Monday, March 22, 1999 7:20 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] New Member
>
>
> >Hi everyone,
> >Just join last week. I live in the Phoenix area and have a 98TJ with minor
> mods (skids, tires, TC Air Tube, TC Rock-its & coil lift).
> >
> >I noticed a Crown King run being planned but I am not sure how this works.
> Who sets dates and times? Does anyone post trips in the calendar?
> >
> >Any info would be appreciated....
> >
> >Rick
> >
>
>
>
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719 From: Leah Eliscu <eliscu@m...>
Date: Wed Mar 24, 1999 7:54am
Subject: Re: Back Door Trail to Woodpecker Mine and points north
I too have had some trouble trying to post messages.
I did the Coke Ovens run, so I remember the Texaco
very well. My Jeep has about 4" of lift, 33's and locker
in rear, so I think I can do this. I guess what I'm trying
to get at is should one expect some body damage? I know
I'm asking these questions for a lot of people who don't want
to ask.
Thanks, Leah 94YJ
daballard@p... wrote:
>
> I've been having trouble posting to the List Server, so I'm sending this note from the web page. Hope it makes it.
>
> The trail is actually upper Woodpecker. I had been confusing Ajax Trail w/ Woodpecker. It's a great trail...class 4. As to tire size, I've done it w/ 32's and a 3" lift (TJ), but Linda (w/ 31's and a 4.5 inch lift has done this before. I'd think that at least a l/s rear would be needed.
>
> As to starting time, we're set for 8:30 at Florence Junction Texaco. Let me know if you need directions.
>
> DougB
> 98TJ
> > Tucson meeting place is: Oracle and Magee in front of
> > Trader Joe's. I will be leaving at 6:30 AM from there!
> > I use CB channel 4.
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720 From: <MZabritski@a...>
Date: Wed Mar 24, 1999 2:06am
Subject: USGS
Almost forgot about this. . . For those looking for quad maps, I believe you
can download all sorts of maps from the USGS.
The link to USGS is www.usgs.gov
Except for the freezing element, had a great time doing Cherry Creek. Looking
forward to the next outing and overnighter . . .in warmer weather!
Melinda
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721 From: <minihummer@w...>
Date: Wed Mar 24, 1999 5:42pm
Subject: Re: Back Door Trail to Woodpecker Mine and points north
<36f90a9a.76451e9-@m...> wrote:
Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/list/az_vjc/?start=719
> I too have had some trouble trying to post messages.
> I did the Coke Ovens run, so I remember the Texaco
> very well. My Jeep has about 4" of lift, 33's and locker
> in rear, so I think I can do this. I guess what I'm trying
> to get at is should one expect some body damage? I know
> I'm asking these questions for a lot of people who don't want
> to ask.
>
> Thanks, Leah 94YJ
>
> daballard@p... wrote:
> >
> > I've been having trouble posting to the List Server, so I'm sending this note from the web page. Hope it makes it.
> >
Hi Leah,
Unless you do something really silly or try some of the interesting alternate routes I doubt you suffer any body damage. I almost lost the rear bumper off my ZJ the last time I was on the trail, but I was going through an alternate that was a little tight.
I hope to be able to make the run. I have irrigation scheduled and if this week keeps going like it has, it'll probably be scheduled for mid-day Saturday!
Have fun!
Linda
> > The trail is actually upper Woodpecker. I had been confusing Ajax Trail w/ Woodpecker. It's a great trail...class 4. As to tire size, I've done it w/ 32's and a 3" lift (TJ), but Linda (w/ 31's and a 4.5 inch lift has done this before. I'd think that at least a l/s rear would be needed.
> >
> > As to starting time, we're set for 8:30 at Florence Junction Texaco. Let me know if you need directions.
> >
> > DougB
> > 98TJ
>
> > > Tucson meeting place is: Oracle and Magee in front of
> > > Trader Joe's. I will be leaving at 6:30 AM from there!
> > > I use CB channel 4.
>
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722 From: <Revolvr@a...>
Date: Wed Mar 24, 1999 3:07pm
Subject: Mailing list posts missing
All,
I asked e-groups about the problem we've been having with a few posts not
getting sent, or getting sent late. Here is their response. If you keep having
trouble, send me a note with the date you sent the message and I will continue
to pursue this.
BTW, I've had a couple of other unrelated e-mail problems over the last couple
of weeks.
-- Dan
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Date: 3/24/99 6:30:16 PM US Mountain Standard Time
From: support@e... (Sergio)
To: Revolvr@a...
While 80% of messages leave our system within 90 seconds, a few take days
due to conditions at the receiving host.
Our archive shows that messages have been sent and received through today.
I apologize for the delays, but we are working daily to avoid these problems
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723 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Wed Mar 24, 1999 10:53pm
Subject: Test #6 - Please Ignor
Sent 11:52p - Wed.
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724 From: ken unterriner <jeep108@h...>
Date: Wed Mar 24, 1999 4:12pm
Subject: Log Corral
Here are some pictures of the log corral run we did a while back.I tried
to post these a few times and failed so I thought I'd try it again.Mine
is the blue jeep.
Ken U
84 CJ7/Wrangler
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725 From: James A Langdon <yucca-man@j...>
Date: Wed Mar 24, 1999 2:38pm
Subject: Re: CrownKing Trip???
If it's not, there should be. Anyone have any date preferences? I'd
like to run CK again someday, but I'm still fighting the tail-sniffers to
get the Cherokee past emissions. Throw some dates out, I'm sure someone
will join up on the run that way.
Jim
http://members.tripod.com/~Yucca_man/azjeep (Down for construction)
On Tue, 23 Mar 1999 16:15:57 -0000 sehall@h... writes:
>Is there a trip planned for CrownKing soon?
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726 From: Robert D McFarlane Jr. <rdmcfarlane@j...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 3:20am
Subject: Re: Fw: CrownKing Trip???
I'd love to make this trip again, but I'm unavailable until May. Can it
wait that long?
Dan McFarlane
97TJ
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 22:38:58 +0000
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CrownKing Trip???
Message-ID: <19990325.020736.-233997.0.yucca-man@j...>
If it's not, there should be. Anyone have any date preferences? I'd
like to run CK again someday, but I'm still fighting the tail-sniffers to
get the Cherokee past emissions. Throw some dates out, I'm sure someone
will join up on the run that way.
Jim
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>Is there a trip planned for CrownKing soon?
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727 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 6:20am
Subject: Re: Fw: CrownKing Trip???
Robert D McFarlane Jr. wrote:
>
> I'd love to make this trip again, but I'm unavailable until May. Can it
> wait that long?
>
> Dan McFarlane
May would actualy be a good time to go. It'll be getting hot here in the
Valley, and a cool trip up the the Bradshaws would be perfect. Course,
we could do it sooner and also do it in May.
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728 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 6:22am
Subject: Re: question
David Ross wrote:
>
> Has anyone thought of a trip from the Phoenix area to Flag or Tucson on
> backroads/off road? I
I'd be up for a trip soon down south. Any of the Tucson members care to
propose a run??
As to Flag...definately this summer I'll be heading up north for some
overnights.
DougB
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729 From: Leah Eliscu <eliscu@m...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 9:12am
Subject: Re: question
> I'd be up for a trip soon down south. Any of the Tucson members care to
> propose a run??
OK, I'll bite. How about the Gap? or Reddington Loop?
I would not recomend stock vehicles for these two runs.
If there are people with stock Jeeps wanting to do some
Tucson trails we can try others we have enough!
Rice Peak would be a good one too.
I'm pretty much open for any weekends. Let me know
what's good for the rest of you.
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730 From: Leah Eliscu <eliscu@m...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 10:29am
Subject: Re: question
MZabritski@a... wrote:
>
> Tucson would be fun.
> I've been able to do up to 3 1/2 rated trails though and suprise myself with
> what these TJ's can do!
I hear that! They are great right out of the box!
> Would love to check out the scenery around Tucson.
> Would this be an overnighter?
> How about if we propose something like April 10th. This would be about two
> weeks out for planning purposes.
>
> Melinda
> 97TJ
Hi Melinda,
I'll have to check on the April 10th date when I get home
tonight. If my club does not have anything scheduled
that would be great! And we'll shoot for then.
If most people want to overnight it, it would probably be a
primitive site, I dont know what's all available for camping.
although Catalina State Park has nice camping, we probably
need some reservations for a big group. As soon as I send
this off to ya I will make some contacts.
Take care, Leah 94YJ
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731 From: <jeepcj8@p...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 0:49pm
Subject: Log Corral--Dont Download Pictures!!!!!!!!!
If you guys have pictures, that's fine, just don't attach them to any egroup
because they can't handle it---all I get is 10 minutes wasted for a bunch of
characters.
Just let the list know that pictures are available and they can request them
to be sent to their personal email (if they want to see them).
Thanks,
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732 From: Dave Reinken <daver@c...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 1:03pm
Subject: Re: Log Corral--Dont Download Pictures!!!!!!!!!
I didn't have any trouble with them...
jeepcj8@p... wrote:
>
> If you guys have pictures, that's fine, just don't attach them to any egroup
> because they can't handle it---all I get is 10 minutes wasted for a bunch of
> characters.
> Just let the list know that pictures are available and they can request them
> to be sent to their personal email (if they want to see them).
> Thanks,
> Lisa
>
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733 From: Leah Eliscu <eliscu@m...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 1:12pm
Subject: Re: Log Corral--Pictures!
My messages are getting through in a snap now
& those pictures came out beautifully on my end.
I did not have to wait. I know most lists (including
this one) dont
want us to send pics and I will respect that.
I liked them anyway!
Leah 94YJ
> jeepcj8@p... wrote:
> >
> > If you guys have pictures, that's fine, just don't attach them to any egroup
> > because they can't handle it---all I get is 10 minutes wasted for a bunch of
> > characters.
> > Just let the list know that pictures are available and they can request them
> > to be sent to their personal email (if they want to see them).
> > Thanks,
> > Lisa
> >
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734 From: <MZabritski@a...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 9:06am
Subject: GREAT PICS
Loved the pics - they came through just fine!
Doug/Dan - et. al.
What is the process for pics. I really enjoy seeing them, and I believe others
do as well.
Melinda
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735 From: <Revolvr@a...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 2:07pm
Subject: Re: GREAT PICS
I don't think there is any anti-picture policy at e-groups. There are size
limitations. Messages larger than 500K are not allowed, and (supposedly)
messages over 100K are moderated (by me) but I didn't get a message to
moderate that last one, which was around 300K.
I recommend if you want to send attachments over 100K you send them to me and
I can upload them to my web site. And only send one attachment with any post.
Some e-mail systems can't handle large attachments or certain file formats, or
multiple attachments. AOL for example cannot handle multiple attachments. I
didn't have a problem with these pictures.
-- Dan
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d 3/25/99 3:10:27 PM US Mountain Standard Time, MZabritski@a... writes:
> Loved the pics - they came through just fine!
>
> Doug/Dan - et. al.
> What is the process for pics. I really enjoy seeing them, and I believe
> others
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736 From: <Revolvr@a...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 2:14pm
Subject: Re: Fw: CrownKing Trip???
A May Crown King trip sounds good. How about Saturday, May 8? Meet at 9 AM at
the trailhead. I'll post directions to the trailhead shortly.
The whole trip took me 11 hours last time, which includes time to get to the
trailhead from the East Valley, time to hang out at the Saloon and assuming a
trip back down I-17.
There is good camping near Crown King for anyone who would like an
overnighter.
For those of you who haven't been, this is a Class 3 trip. Stock Jeeps can do
it, but it is challenging and fun and scenic. There are a couple of more
difficult spots that have bypasses.
-- Dan
In a message dated 3/25/99 7:21:38 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
daballard@p... writes:
>
> May would actualy be a good time to go. It'll be getting hot here in the
> Valley, and a cool trip up the the Bradshaws would be perfect. Course,
> we could do it sooner and also do it in May.
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737 From: <Revolvr@a...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 2:16pm
Subject: Re: question
In a message dated 3/25/99 7:24:55 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
daballard@p... writes:
> >
> > Has anyone thought of a trip from the Phoenix area to Flag or Tucson on
> > backroads/off road? I
>
> I'd be up for a trip soon down south. Any of the Tucson members care to
> propose a run??
I'm up for a trip South too, before it gets too hot! How about mid April, say
the 10th or 17th. We have the Coves Clean-Up on the 24th.
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738 From: <Revolvr@a...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 3:56pm
Subject: Re: Log Corral--Pictures!
For those of you who had trouble getting the pictures via e-mail, I have
uploaded them to my web site. Go here:
http://members.aol.com/Revolvr/az_backcountry_jeep.htm
Find the "Log Corral Road" menu item, select it and you will go to a
description of the trail with a couple of pictures. Click on the link that
says "Click here for more pictures".
I didn't create thumbnails so it takes a couple of minutes to load. Anyone
know how to batch process a bunch of files to create thumbnails?
Anyway, right click to view and download each full size images.
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739 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 11:14pm
Subject: Re: question
>
> I'm up for a trip South too, before it gets too hot! How about mid April, say
> the 10th or 17th. We have the Coves Clean-Up on the 24th.
>
I'm up for that, but I can't do the 10th. 17th works, though.
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710 From: <minihummer@w...>
Date: Mon Mar 22, 1999 8:52pm
Subject: Cherry Creek
Just want to say I had a great time on the Cherry Creek Trail and am looking forward to more trips up north as the temperatures start to climb!
I am planning a trip to Dupont Cabin in July. Will let the group know more as we get closer to July.
Leah: Is Charouleau Gap a good warm weather trail?
If all works well, I'll be on the Woodpecker Trail this weekend.
See ya!
Linda
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711 From: <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Mar 23, 1999 6:32am
Subject: Mystery tracks
I mentioned the bird tracks we saw on the Cherry Creek Trail to Steve (significant other who is currently on assignment in Seattle). He said they were probably wild turkey tracks. Wild turkeys can weigh upwards of 40-lbs. Since the tracks we saw were created when the road was wet, it would be logical to assume that a 40-lb bird could leave a pretty deep track.
The emu theory sounded pretty good too!
Linda
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712 From: <sehall@h...>
Date: Tue Mar 23, 1999 8:15am
Subject: CrownKing Trip???
Is there a trip planned for CrownKing soon?
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713 From: Leah Eliscu <eliscu@m...>
Date: Tue Mar 23, 1999 3:16pm
Subject: Re: Cherry Creek
Linda,
I have been through the Gap in the middle of summer and in
heavy blowing snow. the Gap would be a great WARM weather
run! In hot weather, it is very nice as a night run!
We did a night run last July, all I can is WOW! the
lighting in the distance and the trail after a fresh rain...
That run was voted as best run of 1998 by the TRRs.
Hope that helps.
Leah 94YJ
minihummer@w... wrote:
> Leah: Is Charouleau Gap a good warm weather trail?
>
> If all works well, I'll be on the Woodpecker Trail this weekend.
>
> See ya!
> Linda
> 93 ZJ Ltd
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714 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Mar 23, 1999 6:21pm
Subject: Re: Cherry Creek
Sound like a trip the AZVJC needs to do sometime later this year.
Linda
Leah Eliscu wrote:
> Linda,
> I have been through the Gap in the middle of summer and in
> heavy blowing snow. the Gap would be a great WARM weather
> run! In hot weather, it is very nice as a night run!
> We did a night run last July, all I can is WOW! the
> lighting in the distance and the trail after a fresh rain...
> That run was voted as best run of 1998 by the TRRs.
> Hope that helps.
>
> Leah 94YJ
>
> minihummer@w... wrote:
>
> > Leah: Is Charouleau Gap a good warm weather trail?
> >
> > If all works well, I'll be on the Woodpecker Trail this weekend.
> >
> > See ya!
> > Linda
> > 93 ZJ Ltd
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715 From: <daballard@p...>
Date: Tue Mar 23, 1999 8:30pm
Subject: Re: Back Door Trail to Woodpecker Mine and points north
I've been having trouble posting to the List Server, so I'm sending this note from the web page. Hope it makes it.
The trail is actually upper Woodpecker. I had been confusing Ajax Trail w/ Woodpecker. It's a great trail...class 4. As to tire size, I've done it w/ 32's and a 3" lift (TJ), but Linda (w/ 31's and a 4.5 inch lift has done this before. I'd think that at least a l/s rear would be needed.
As to starting time, we're set for 8:30 at Florence Junction Texaco. Let me know if you need directions.
DougB
98TJ
> Greetings from Tucson! There are a few of us here that want
> to go. If I can get enough people to show up we will caravan
> up to the meeting place together. I will let you know as the
> date gets a little closer.
>
> Tucson meeting place is: Oracle and Magee in front of
> Trader Joe's. I will be leaving at 6:30 AM from there!
> I use CB channel 4.
>
> Doug, is there a vehicle requirement (tire size, lockers, so on)
> for the class 4 trip you can recomend?
>
> Thanks, Leah 94YJ
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716 From: Len Sullivan <kermit@f...>
Date: Tue Mar 23, 1999 8:34pm
Subject: Re: New Member
Welcome to the group! What are "Air Tubes" and "Rock-its?" I'm not up on
stuff for those new-fangled little Jeeps y'all drive...
Len Sullivan
78 J-10
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From: sehall@h... <sehall@h...>
To: az_vjc@egroups.com <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Date: Monday, March 22, 1999 7:20 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] New Member
>Hi everyone,
>Just join last week. I live in the Phoenix area and have a 98TJ with minor
mods (skids, tires, TC Air Tube, TC Rock-its & coil lift).
>
>I noticed a Crown King run being planned but I am not sure how this works.
Who sets dates and times? Does anyone post trips in the calendar?
>
>Any info would be appreciated....
>
>Rick
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717 From: nnote <nnote@n...>
Date: Wed Mar 24, 1999 0:12pm
Subject: Links
Check out this link. There is some excellent trail info here.
www.gorp.com/gorp/location/az/az.htm
Also another link I was told to repost.
www.terraserver.microsoft.com
Also an atachment of a few AZ_VJC members taking a break at BP cabin off the Cherry Creek trail.
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718 From: <sehall@h...>
Date: Wed Mar 24, 1999 6:59am
Subject: Re: New Member
Those are brand name parts from Turbo City (TC):
RockIts: Rocker panel bars that are strong enough to be jacked with a HiLift jack and provide a step up. Similar to the tubes that you see on the sides of Jeeps but much stronger. They bolt to the frame but don't reduce clearance and haven't bent yet when you hit them hard.
AirTube: A legal way to mount a K&N air filter to your throttle body.
Rick
<01be75af$a21a1ee0$1a0afad-@kermit> wrote:
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> Welcome to the group! What are "Air Tubes" and "Rock-its?" I'm not up on
> stuff for those new-fangled little Jeeps y'all drive...
>
> Len Sullivan
> 78 J-10
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sehall@h... <sehall@h...>
> To: az_vjc@egroups.com <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> Date: Monday, March 22, 1999 7:20 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] New Member
>
>
> >Hi everyone,
> >Just join last week. I live in the Phoenix area and have a 98TJ with minor
> mods (skids, tires, TC Air Tube, TC Rock-its & coil lift).
> >
> >I noticed a Crown King run being planned but I am not sure how this works.
> Who sets dates and times? Does anyone post trips in the calendar?
> >
> >Any info would be appreciated....
> >
> >Rick
> >
>
>
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719 From: Leah Eliscu <eliscu@m...>
Date: Wed Mar 24, 1999 7:54am
Subject: Re: Back Door Trail to Woodpecker Mine and points north
I too have had some trouble trying to post messages.
I did the Coke Ovens run, so I remember the Texaco
very well. My Jeep has about 4" of lift, 33's and locker
in rear, so I think I can do this. I guess what I'm trying
to get at is should one expect some body damage? I know
I'm asking these questions for a lot of people who don't want
to ask.
Thanks, Leah 94YJ
daballard@p... wrote:
>
> I've been having trouble posting to the List Server, so I'm sending this note from the web page. Hope it makes it.
>
> The trail is actually upper Woodpecker. I had been confusing Ajax Trail w/ Woodpecker. It's a great trail...class 4. As to tire size, I've done it w/ 32's and a 3" lift (TJ), but Linda (w/ 31's and a 4.5 inch lift has done this before. I'd think that at least a l/s rear would be needed.
>
> As to starting time, we're set for 8:30 at Florence Junction Texaco. Let me know if you need directions.
>
> DougB
> 98TJ
> > Tucson meeting place is: Oracle and Magee in front of
> > Trader Joe's. I will be leaving at 6:30 AM from there!
> > I use CB channel 4.
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720 From: <MZabritski@a...>
Date: Wed Mar 24, 1999 2:06am
Subject: USGS
Almost forgot about this. . . For those looking for quad maps, I believe you
can download all sorts of maps from the USGS.
The link to USGS is www.usgs.gov
Except for the freezing element, had a great time doing Cherry Creek. Looking
forward to the next outing and overnighter . . .in warmer weather!
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721 From: <minihummer@w...>
Date: Wed Mar 24, 1999 5:42pm
Subject: Re: Back Door Trail to Woodpecker Mine and points north
<36f90a9a.76451e9-@m...> wrote:
Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/list/az_vjc/?start=719
> I too have had some trouble trying to post messages.
> I did the Coke Ovens run, so I remember the Texaco
> very well. My Jeep has about 4" of lift, 33's and locker
> in rear, so I think I can do this. I guess what I'm trying
> to get at is should one expect some body damage? I know
> I'm asking these questions for a lot of people who don't want
> to ask.
>
> Thanks, Leah 94YJ
>
> daballard@p... wrote:
> >
> > I've been having trouble posting to the List Server, so I'm sending this note from the web page. Hope it makes it.
> >
Hi Leah,
Unless you do something really silly or try some of the interesting alternate routes I doubt you suffer any body damage. I almost lost the rear bumper off my ZJ the last time I was on the trail, but I was going through an alternate that was a little tight.
I hope to be able to make the run. I have irrigation scheduled and if this week keeps going like it has, it'll probably be scheduled for mid-day Saturday!
Have fun!
Linda
> > The trail is actually upper Woodpecker. I had been confusing Ajax Trail w/ Woodpecker. It's a great trail...class 4. As to tire size, I've done it w/ 32's and a 3" lift (TJ), but Linda (w/ 31's and a 4.5 inch lift has done this before. I'd think that at least a l/s rear would be needed.
> >
> > As to starting time, we're set for 8:30 at Florence Junction Texaco. Let me know if you need directions.
> >
> > DougB
> > 98TJ
>
> > > Tucson meeting place is: Oracle and Magee in front of
> > > Trader Joe's. I will be leaving at 6:30 AM from there!
> > > I use CB channel 4.
>
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722 From: <Revolvr@a...>
Date: Wed Mar 24, 1999 3:07pm
Subject: Mailing list posts missing
All,
I asked e-groups about the problem we've been having with a few posts not
getting sent, or getting sent late. Here is their response. If you keep having
trouble, send me a note with the date you sent the message and I will continue
to pursue this.
BTW, I've had a couple of other unrelated e-mail problems over the last couple
of weeks.
-- Dan
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Date: 3/24/99 6:30:16 PM US Mountain Standard Time
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To: Revolvr@a...
While 80% of messages leave our system within 90 seconds, a few take days
due to conditions at the receiving host.
Our archive shows that messages have been sent and received through today.
I apologize for the delays, but we are working daily to avoid these problems
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723 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Wed Mar 24, 1999 10:53pm
Subject: Test #6 - Please Ignor
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724 From: ken unterriner <jeep108@h...>
Date: Wed Mar 24, 1999 4:12pm
Subject: Log Corral
Here are some pictures of the log corral run we did a while back.I tried
to post these a few times and failed so I thought I'd try it again.Mine
is the blue jeep.
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725 From: James A Langdon <yucca-man@j...>
Date: Wed Mar 24, 1999 2:38pm
Subject: Re: CrownKing Trip???
If it's not, there should be. Anyone have any date preferences? I'd
like to run CK again someday, but I'm still fighting the tail-sniffers to
get the Cherokee past emissions. Throw some dates out, I'm sure someone
will join up on the run that way.
Jim
http://members.tripod.com/~Yucca_man/azjeep (Down for construction)
On Tue, 23 Mar 1999 16:15:57 -0000 sehall@h... writes:
>Is there a trip planned for CrownKing soon?
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726 From: Robert D McFarlane Jr. <rdmcfarlane@j...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 3:20am
Subject: Re: Fw: CrownKing Trip???
I'd love to make this trip again, but I'm unavailable until May. Can it
wait that long?
Dan McFarlane
97TJ
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 22:38:58 +0000
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If it's not, there should be. Anyone have any date preferences? I'd
like to run CK again someday, but I'm still fighting the tail-sniffers to
get the Cherokee past emissions. Throw some dates out, I'm sure someone
will join up on the run that way.
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727 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 6:20am
Subject: Re: Fw: CrownKing Trip???
Robert D McFarlane Jr. wrote:
>
> I'd love to make this trip again, but I'm unavailable until May. Can it
> wait that long?
>
> Dan McFarlane
May would actualy be a good time to go. It'll be getting hot here in the
Valley, and a cool trip up the the Bradshaws would be perfect. Course,
we could do it sooner and also do it in May.
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728 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 6:22am
Subject: Re: question
David Ross wrote:
>
> Has anyone thought of a trip from the Phoenix area to Flag or Tucson on
> backroads/off road? I
I'd be up for a trip soon down south. Any of the Tucson members care to
propose a run??
As to Flag...definately this summer I'll be heading up north for some
overnights.
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729 From: Leah Eliscu <eliscu@m...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 9:12am
Subject: Re: question
> I'd be up for a trip soon down south. Any of the Tucson members care to
> propose a run??
OK, I'll bite. How about the Gap? or Reddington Loop?
I would not recomend stock vehicles for these two runs.
If there are people with stock Jeeps wanting to do some
Tucson trails we can try others we have enough!
Rice Peak would be a good one too.
I'm pretty much open for any weekends. Let me know
what's good for the rest of you.
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730 From: Leah Eliscu <eliscu@m...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 10:29am
Subject: Re: question
MZabritski@a... wrote:
>
> Tucson would be fun.
> I've been able to do up to 3 1/2 rated trails though and suprise myself with
> what these TJ's can do!
I hear that! They are great right out of the box!
> Would love to check out the scenery around Tucson.
> Would this be an overnighter?
> How about if we propose something like April 10th. This would be about two
> weeks out for planning purposes.
>
> Melinda
> 97TJ
Hi Melinda,
I'll have to check on the April 10th date when I get home
tonight. If my club does not have anything scheduled
that would be great! And we'll shoot for then.
If most people want to overnight it, it would probably be a
primitive site, I dont know what's all available for camping.
although Catalina State Park has nice camping, we probably
need some reservations for a big group. As soon as I send
this off to ya I will make some contacts.
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731 From: <jeepcj8@p...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 0:49pm
Subject: Log Corral--Dont Download Pictures!!!!!!!!!
If you guys have pictures, that's fine, just don't attach them to any egroup
because they can't handle it---all I get is 10 minutes wasted for a bunch of
characters.
Just let the list know that pictures are available and they can request them
to be sent to their personal email (if they want to see them).
Thanks,
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732 From: Dave Reinken <daver@c...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 1:03pm
Subject: Re: Log Corral--Dont Download Pictures!!!!!!!!!
I didn't have any trouble with them...
jeepcj8@p... wrote:
>
> If you guys have pictures, that's fine, just don't attach them to any egroup
> because they can't handle it---all I get is 10 minutes wasted for a bunch of
> characters.
> Just let the list know that pictures are available and they can request them
> to be sent to their personal email (if they want to see them).
> Thanks,
> Lisa
>
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733 From: Leah Eliscu <eliscu@m...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 1:12pm
Subject: Re: Log Corral--Pictures!
My messages are getting through in a snap now
& those pictures came out beautifully on my end.
I did not have to wait. I know most lists (including
this one) dont
want us to send pics and I will respect that.
I liked them anyway!
Leah 94YJ
> jeepcj8@p... wrote:
> >
> > If you guys have pictures, that's fine, just don't attach them to any egroup
> > because they can't handle it---all I get is 10 minutes wasted for a bunch of
> > characters.
> > Just let the list know that pictures are available and they can request them
> > to be sent to their personal email (if they want to see them).
> > Thanks,
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734 From: <MZabritski@a...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 9:06am
Subject: GREAT PICS
Loved the pics - they came through just fine!
Doug/Dan - et. al.
What is the process for pics. I really enjoy seeing them, and I believe others
do as well.
Melinda
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735 From: <Revolvr@a...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 2:07pm
Subject: Re: GREAT PICS
I don't think there is any anti-picture policy at e-groups. There are size
limitations. Messages larger than 500K are not allowed, and (supposedly)
messages over 100K are moderated (by me) but I didn't get a message to
moderate that last one, which was around 300K.
I recommend if you want to send attachments over 100K you send them to me and
I can upload them to my web site. And only send one attachment with any post.
Some e-mail systems can't handle large attachments or certain file formats, or
multiple attachments. AOL for example cannot handle multiple attachments. I
didn't have a problem with these pictures.
-- Dan
In a message date
d 3/25/99 3:10:27 PM US Mountain Standard Time, MZabritski@a... writes:
> Loved the pics - they came through just fine!
>
> Doug/Dan - et. al.
> What is the process for pics. I really enjoy seeing them, and I believe
> others
> do as well.
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736 From: <Revolvr@a...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 2:14pm
Subject: Re: Fw: CrownKing Trip???
A May Crown King trip sounds good. How about Saturday, May 8? Meet at 9 AM at
the trailhead. I'll post directions to the trailhead shortly.
The whole trip took me 11 hours last time, which includes time to get to the
trailhead from the East Valley, time to hang out at the Saloon and assuming a
trip back down I-17.
There is good camping near Crown King for anyone who would like an
overnighter.
For those of you who haven't been, this is a Class 3 trip. Stock Jeeps can do
it, but it is challenging and fun and scenic. There are a couple of more
difficult spots that have bypasses.
-- Dan
In a message dated 3/25/99 7:21:38 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
daballard@p... writes:
>
> May would actualy be a good time to go. It'll be getting hot here in the
> Valley, and a cool trip up the the Bradshaws would be perfect. Course,
> we could do it sooner and also do it in May.
>
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737 From: <Revolvr@a...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 2:16pm
Subject: Re: question
In a message dated 3/25/99 7:24:55 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
daballard@p... writes:
> >
> > Has anyone thought of a trip from the Phoenix area to Flag or Tucson on
> > backroads/off road? I
>
> I'd be up for a trip soon down south. Any of the Tucson members care to
> propose a run??
I'm up for a trip South too, before it gets too hot! How about mid April, say
the 10th or 17th. We have the Coves Clean-Up on the 24th.
-- Dan
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738 From: <Revolvr@a...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 3:56pm
Subject: Re: Log Corral--Pictures!
For those of you who had trouble getting the pictures via e-mail, I have
uploaded them to my web site. Go here:
http://members.aol.com/Revolvr/az_backcountry_jeep.htm
Find the "Log Corral Road" menu item, select it and you will go to a
description of the trail with a couple of pictures. Click on the link that
says "Click here for more pictures".
I didn't create thumbnails so it takes a couple of minutes to load. Anyone
know how to batch process a bunch of files to create thumbnails?
Anyway, right click to view and download each full size images.
-- Dan
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739 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Thu Mar 25, 1999 11:14pm
Subject: Re: question
>
> I'm up for a trip South too, before it gets too hot! How about mid April, say
> the 10th or 17th. We have the Coves Clean-Up on the 24th.
>
I'm up for that, but I can't do the 10th. 17th works, though.
DougB
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