June 16th Meeting @ Lake Pleasant

[Hackle]

I will be working this event to help get all the 4 wheel drive info on the maps to be submitted to the BLM.
1) I need someone to help me on the maps and comment board during the meeting, please:D .
2) This is an open house type meeting you do not need to be there at the start or for hours.
3) We need a good turnout to show how important this area is to us.

Invitation
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The Bradshaw Foothills Coalition
A small group of people working together to make a big impact


Greetings fellow outdoor trail enthusiasts:

Mark your calendars. The Bradshaw Foothills Coalition is hosting a route designation workshop on June 16, 2007 from 9:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. at the Lake Pleasant Outdoor Recreational Center. The purpose of the workshop is to gather user data and current trail usage information from all user groups and/or stakeholders in the Bradshaw Foothills area.

We would like input from all user groups, including ATV, motorcycle, 4-wheelers, private property owners, equestrians, rock-crawlers, hikers, wilderness and/or those with environmental concerns, bicyclists, hunters, birders and mining interests.

The information gathered at this workshop will be compiled and given to the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) to be used in its ongoing route evaluation process. The more inclusive this information is, the more use it will be to the BLM, and the more influential it will be.

If you have a favorite trail or loop which you would like to stay open, areas that you feel should be designated for a specific user group or concerns and/or input about recreation and travel management in this area, this workshop is a chance to give us your input and make it count.

We are counting on you to voice your opinion on these highly recreated areas so that everyone gets a chance to be heard so please do your best to attend or just stop by with your comments. Thank you for your participation in advance.


See you at Lake Pleasant on June 16th!

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Jim F.

[FourxDad]

Jim what are you needing on the maps and comment boards as far as help? This Meeting is on a Sunday right? I should be back in town by then, and I might even get permission form the decision maker to attend:D
Greg

[Hackle]

I just need someone to write down the comments made and help me explain the maps and what we are doing. We can go over that in the morning of the meeting. Who ever helps me will need to be there at 8:30 and will need to stay until 1:00.

[Sedona Jeep School]

Hey, everyone! This affects the Back way to Crown King! Anyone who has participated in one of those runs should take an hour out of their Saturday morning to drop by!

Jim, I will swing by, but will have the little one in tow, so will not be able to help with the whole event. Anything I can do prior to that to help?

The roads I want to make sure are on there are the Wagoner Road from Kirkland Junction, as well as the connector from Button Mine to both Oro Belle Mine and Senator Hwy. (I will have to check where the USFS and BLM border is for these roads).

Thanks!

[Sandee McCullen]

I just need someone to write down the comments made and help me explain the maps and what we are doing. We can go over that in the morning of the meeting. Who ever helps me will need to be there at 8:30 and will need to stay until 1:00.

I'll be there Jim................... will do whatever you need.

[Hackle]

Thanks everyone I hope we can get a lot of turnout.
BTW I will copy this to the General section this weekend to get more exposure.
Jim F.

[Crawldit]

Finally something on a day when I'm not chained to my office. I'll be there for sure with my son in tow.

[RufftyTuffty]

I was reading on a Colorado forum that their land meetings are 'ON-HOLD' as some Californian judge has ruled George W's land plan unconstitutinal.

Anyone else hear about this?

http://www.cohvco.org/news/news.php?item=142

COHVCO Land Use Issues and Litigation


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Trail Advocate's Report for April 2007
Posted: Wednesday, April 18, 2007
Trails Advocate Monthly Report - Valerie Douglas
April 17, 2007


What is going on in the Forest Service:
Pike San Isabel Forest Plan Revision process - comment period one complete - California Judge Ruling made everything a moot point

8 scoping meetings for the Pike San Isabel Forest Plan Revision process were moot points after a Northern California Judge ruled that the Bush Administration's new planning regulations were "unconstitutional."

Gunnison National Forest

Gunnison is in the process of reviewing initial pre-scoping information received from user groups regarding their upcoming Travel Management Plan. Meeting dates for the scoping portion of the process should be announced and conducted over the late spring/early summer months. THIS IS ON HOLD DUE TO THE CALIFORNIA JUDGE RULING

Grand Mesa National Forest - THIS IS ON HOLD DUE TO THE CALIFORNIA JUDGE RULING

[Sandee McCullen]

I was reading on a Colorado forum that their land meetings are 'ON-HOLD' as some Californian judge has ruled George W's land plan unconstitutinal.

Anyone else hear about this?

http://www.cohvco.org/news/news.php?item=142

COHVCO Land Use Issues and Litigation



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Trail Advocate's Report for April 2007
Posted: Wednesday, April 18, 2007
Trails Advocate Monthly Report - Valerie Douglas
April 17, 2007


What is going on in the Forest Service:
Pike San Isabel Forest Plan Revision process - comment period one complete - California Judge Ruling made everything a moot point

8 scoping meetings for the Pike San Isabel Forest Plan Revision process were moot points after a Northern California Judge ruled that the Bush Administration's new planning regulations were "unconstitutional."

Gunnison National Forest

Gunnison is in the process of reviewing initial pre-scoping information received from user groups regarding their upcoming Travel Management Plan. Meeting dates for the scoping portion of the process should be announced and conducted over the late spring/early summer months. THIS IS ON HOLD DUE TO THE CALIFORNIA JUDGE RULING

Grand Mesa National Forest - THIS IS ON HOLD DUE TO THE CALIFORNIA JUDGE RULING

9th Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled against Forest Service continuing with FOREST PLANS for the time being. The TRANSPORTATION PLANS are moving forward as planned. Forest Plans are for the entire PICTURE of Forest Planning. The enviros are claiming every acre, area, or inch of lands must be assessed under NEPA. GWB has simply agreed that Land Use Plans as a whole do not need NEPA........... the NEPA is to be done when each individual area or use is implemented. Enviros are fighting this.

BUT............. the planning meeting scheduled for the 16th is NOT Forest Service.................. it's BLM. It involves OUR TRAILS in and around Table Mesa. BLM planning is not under protest and will continue as planned. YOUR voice needs to be heard and YOUR TRAILS need to be identified. We ALL need to INSURE BLM LISTENS AND CONSIDERS ALL OF OUR INPUT.

[Crawldit]

I'm going to play stupid for a second....where exactly at Lake Pleasant is the meeting? I've driven by the Lake to go up the Backway to CK or to go to Wickenburg, but have never actually been to the lake.

[Sandee McCullen]

I'm going to play stupid for a second....where exactly at Lake Pleasant is the meeting? I've driven by the Lake to go up the Backway to CK or to go to Wickenburg, but have never actually been to the lake.

Take Carefree Hwy west......... Before you actually get to the lake......... long before the Castle Hot Springs Rd at MP 19 is a sign and major turnoff to the Lake Pleasant Harbor/Recreation area. It's just before you go into the turn heading west again. As you continue up the road the harbor and camping area will be on your left. Just beyond this area will be a gate. If the gate is closed it will have a CODE stuck to the gate itself to allow entrance. If open continue through to the building at the top of the hill. Can't get lost.

[Frisbie]

I will be there.

[fatboypup]

I just got to Phoenix a few days ago but im allready wanting to find a lake or something to do .... I dont know what I'd need to trail ride with you guys I still have my Virginia plates and stuff ..... any and all help will be great thanks in advance.

[Sandee McCullen]

DIRECTIONS to the Lake Pleasant Outdoor Recreation Facility for Saturday Meeting!

Saturday, the 16th is only three days away and we are looking forward to seeing you at the Bradshaw Foothills Coalition Workshop at the Lake Pleasant Outdoor Recreational Center. Attached is the invitation, directions and the code to enter the complex (this will also be posted at the gate, if you forget).

Looking forward to seeing you Saturday.




Directions to the Desert Outdoor Center:

From Central Phoenix take I-17 north to Carefree Highway (SR 74), exit at Carefree Hwy. and travel west approximately 7 miles to Pleasant Harbor Blvd. Follow the road north to the Desert Outdoor Center entrance gate. To enter the gate, the code is 6481 (just enter the numbers, no pound sign, etc). Once through the gate, continue north on the road until you arrive at the Desert Outdoor Center.

[Antman]

DIRECTIONS to the Lake Pleasant Outdoor Recreation Facility for Saturday Meeting!

Saturday, the 16th is only three days away and we are looking forward to seeing you at the Bradshaw Foothills Coalition Workshop at the Lake Pleasant Outdoor Recreational Center. Attached is the invitation, directions and the code to enter the complex (this will also be posted at the gate, if you forget).

Looking forward to seeing you Saturday.




Directions to the Desert Outdoor Center:

From Central Phoenix take I-17 north to Carefree Highway (SR 74), exit at Carefree Hwy. and travel west approximately 7 miles to Pleasant Harbor Blvd. Follow the road north to the Desert Outdoor Center entrance gate. To enter the gate, the code is 6481 (just enter the numbers, no pound sign, etc). Once through the gate, continue north on the road until you arrive at the Desert Outdoor Center.


I will be out of state! I had planned on being there, so anyone who can make
this meeting please go! I would appreciate it.:D

Your participation is greatly appreciated. Especially Sandee and Hackle!

[My1stJeep]

This Saturday is our first birthday with out baby girl, so I won't be able to make it. Please, spare as much time as you can this day and come to the meeting, if we don't get everything together and put forth the effort now we will lose pretty much so every trail in the TM area that we like to wheel.

Thank you in advance to all those who can make it out there for your participation.

[Hackle]

I should have titled this "Should the AZVJC be a club". That thread is up for two days and has over a 1000 views and 5 pages on comments. This has been up for over a week and has 60 veiws and 1 response since I moved it to this forum.

GET A CLUE IF WE DO NOT GET INVOVLED ALL THE OTHER CRAP WILL NOT MATTER AS WE WILL HAVE NO PLACE TO WHEEL!!!!!! :mad:

Jim F.

[Frisbie]

This kinda sucks but tomarrow is fathers day and my wife works on sundays so today is the day and I cant attend.Please post info after the meeting and if there is any petitions or other things to sign, I will. Sorry

[Fire Ball]

I respnded once but I don't see it here. I'm in Detroit or I would come. Kinda hard to change that fact. I can't just pop in to meetings after work since I'm out of town when I'm at work.

Sorry,

Bill

[WalterD]

Me and the wife were there from about 9:00 to 11:30 today. Lots of people there, unfortunately most were with other groups. The Equestrian group had great turnout as did the ATV/MC. Property owners did pretty well also. About the only group that had less of a turnout than the 4x4 were the Hikers/Wilderness. This was atleast while we were there. Still had 1.5 hrs left, hopefully it turned around for the 4x4 group.
Me and the wife are pretty new to this so I have no room to hctib, but it's going to be pretty hard to re-open trails once there closed. We have to do something now. Sucks that those riding the horses had a better turnout.
Thanks to a few we still have somewhere to wheel. I don't particularly want to build my CJ only to have to trailer it to a selected ORV park or even worse, park it in the garage.
Thanks to Hackle, Sandee, My1stJeep and all others that DO something to help. gnihctib does no good if it goes unheard.
Rant over
Thanks Walter