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Wayco
05-22-2007, 07:00 AM
My personal trainer at Lifetime fitness has never been in a Jeep before, :rolleyes: and I want to show him a little rock crawling before he moves to Nebraska. :D
Meet at the air down on Watson, (North of I-10) at 9 am. We will probably do Tie Rod wash to warm up, then Firebird.

mingoglia
05-22-2007, 07:05 AM
My personal trainer at Lifetime fitness has never been in a Jeep before, :rolleyes: and I want to show him a little rock crawling before he moves to Nebraska. :D
Meet at the air down on Watson, (North of I-10) at 9 am. We will probably do Tie Rod wash to warm up, then Firebird.

You going to charge him $65/hr to Jeep with him? :)

AzDiscovery
05-22-2007, 07:52 AM
whats tie-rod wash like and firebird? 3.0-3.5? Ive been around white tanks before but havent run these.

Wayco
05-22-2007, 11:23 AM
whats tie-rod wash like and firebird? 3.0-3.5? Ive been around white tanks before but havent run these.
Tie Rod wash is no biggie, we took Shannonmac through there with a mostly stock Jeep. She learned how to put it in 4 low..... :D
Firebird is rated at 3.0, my first run with this group was there, got drug off several obstacles, fired up the addiction BIG TIME.....:eek: I don't agree with Johns statement about running a stock Jeep through there, but I would show up to watch him do it. :D

Lifes A Jeep
05-22-2007, 01:02 PM
I don't agree with Johns statement about running a stock Jeep through there, but I would show up to watch him do it. :D

hahaha, are you calling me out? If so, I'd love to drive a stock jeep through Firebird. Anyone wanna let me borrow one?:rolleyes:

Firebird probably would be tough on a stock rig. Maybe I should revise the write up. I will if a few other people agree that Firebird is too much for a stock rig.

On a side note, I would love to go on this run but I already have plans. I've made several White Tank runs but don't know where Tie Rod and some of the other trails are. Maybe another time Wayne? We'll eat some sushi on the trail!:D

AzDiscovery
05-22-2007, 01:24 PM
Wish I could go but Ill be here at the base till 1530. -The LR is itching and needs to go though :)

Hardline
05-22-2007, 01:38 PM
Maybe another time Wayne? We'll eat some sushi on the trail!:D

I'm in if there is sushi!

raw fish!

raw fish!

My1stJeep
05-22-2007, 01:52 PM
Tie Rod wash????????????? Are referring to the lower part of Firebird, if so that is Tax Collector, or the little trail prior to really getting into the white tanks that starts at the bottom of the little wash before you get to the big water tank, if so that is Appetizer. If not one of those where is Tie Rod Wash? It is not one of the trails we listed on the plan presented to the City of Buckeye for approval to be included in the park they are intending to build out there.

Wayco
05-22-2007, 02:04 PM
hahaha, are you calling me out? If so, I'd love to drive a stock jeep through Firebird. Anyone wanna let me borrow one?:rolleyes:

Firebird probably would be tough on a stock rig. Maybe I should revise the write up. I will if a few other people agree that Firebird is too much for a stock rig.

On a side note, I would love to go on this run but I already have plans. I've made several White Tank runs but don't know where Tie Rod and some of the other trails are. Maybe another time Wayne? We'll eat some sushi on the trail!:D

Yeah John, I'm calling you out, we have a new Sushi restaurant called TOMO's on Dysart and McDowell. :D I don't doubt that you can run Firebird in a stock Jeep, I just want to watch. :eek:
Hey, my neighbor, Vince, has a mostly stock Jeep, how are you at hot wiring? Just kidding Vince, (he's a member here too) his Jeep is much to nice for this adventure. Anytime you want to run something over here, let me know. And I'm sure Hardline will buy us all SUSHI! :)

AZG23
05-22-2007, 02:42 PM
Tie Rod wash????????????? Are referring to the lower part of Firebird, if so that is Tax Collector, or the little trail prior to really getting into the white tanks that starts at the bottom of the little wash before you get to the big water tank, if so that is Appetizer. If not one of those where is Tie Rod Wash? It is not one of the trails we listed on the plan presented to the City of Buckeye for approval to be included in the park they are intending to build out there.


I included it in the trail maps that I sent you.......its off the 2nd wash...hang a right about 100 ft turn left....it comes out just east of and slightly north of the out after TC and the start of FBird...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/azg23/tierodwash2.jpg

Hardline
05-22-2007, 03:13 PM
And I'm sure Hardline will buy us all SUSHI! :)

Only if I get to drive....

sms1688
05-22-2007, 04:55 PM
I am new to jeeping in AZ just bought a jeep. I want to take it out but dont know where. I am off on the 5/25 I was wondering where this trail is and if my rig is capable of running it. Any info would be great. Thanks
Paul

Wayco
05-22-2007, 05:37 PM
Howdy Paul, the White Tanks trails are West of Phoenix near Goodyear, where I live. Take I-10 west to Watson Rd.(exit 116 I think) turn right (North) and go to the end of the pavement. We will be there at 9 am. If you have little experience with rock crawling, we might not do Firebird, it's up to you. Tie Rod wash is a good entry level trail, as is Tax Collector. Come on out, we will only do what you are comfortable with.... ;) :D

wannabejeeper
05-22-2007, 05:57 PM
I'm mostly stock and did Firebird.:D

sms1688
05-22-2007, 05:58 PM
Thanks.
I will be heading out there on friday then unless something odd comes up then I will let you know so you dont wait for me.

ArizonaXJ
05-22-2007, 06:57 PM
I would love to come out on Friday but my youngest son (and co-pilot) doesn't get out of school until 12:30....I couldn't be out there until about 1:15-1:30. The wife, my co-pilot and I haven't been on a trail in WEEKS!!!!
Any chance of slightly later start???

DrewDog
05-22-2007, 08:40 PM
Wayco, if you pushed back the start time I may be able to make it or meet you after you do a trail or two. I'm off at 10AM, stations off 75th street and Camelback. Looking at 11:30-12 out that way.................Drew

Wayco
05-23-2007, 12:42 PM
Looks like you all could arrange an afternoon run, but my schedule won't let me stay out there past noon. Sorry guys, maybe next time. :o

ArizonaXJ
05-23-2007, 08:50 PM
Well then, who is up for an afternoon run then?????
A start time of about 1:00????

lancetkenyon
05-23-2007, 09:03 PM
My Jeep is stock, and I did this trail about 3 weeks ago.

Wind_Danzer
05-23-2007, 10:42 PM
My Jeep is stock, and I did this trail about 3 weeks ago.

*soda out the nose*

I'd love to actually wheel with you Wayco but I need to do union stuff at the airport Friday. :(

Wayco
05-24-2007, 08:24 AM
*soda out the nose*

I'd love to actually wheel with you Wayco but I need to do union stuff at the airport Friday. :(

Yeah Jamie, maybe we can plan another run with Lance, you and I could run firebird in our "stock Jeeps" :confused: :D
Looks like this will be a small group, we should be finished early. :)

jkdup
05-24-2007, 08:26 AM
Firebird was my very first intro to crawling and while it can be daunting for a newbie it was really fun - I have already done it again with Tax Collector. If you haven't done it before just make sure you have a good spotter! :D

If anybody wants to do this later this weekend let me know I am going to see Pirates tomorrow so can't join you.

Wayco
05-25-2007, 01:33 PM
Met Paul and Steve (?) out on Watson Rd. today at 9 am. He has an older YJ that is more experienced than he is. :D We ran the first half of Tie rod wash before I could convince him to air down, then we really started having fun! Circled back to do Tax Collector and walked up Firebird a ways. Then I showed them Ruler and Turtle falls. Lots of sandy washes out there to play in, he should be good to go now. At least until the D-35 eats itself....:rolleyes:

Vince Evans
05-25-2007, 04:06 PM
Hey neighbor!

Wayne, I saw you return home this afternoon. I have not looked at the VJC site for a while so I didn't know about your run this morning. Work gets in the way of things in the morning anyway. Sorry you missed another chance to see a "stock TJ" in action.:D

We are going to run the Great Western Trail on Sunday from the Southern end North to wherever. Want to go?

It does not look difficult but the scenery should be pretty.

We plan to depart about 7AM from the compound.

Good Luck,:D
Vince

sms1688
05-25-2007, 09:36 PM
I meet wayne on the tierod run today. I need to get use to the type of wheeling out here and get use to running this rig. I just wanted to add thanks to wayne for haveing the patience and the willingness to show me around the white tanks. :) I had and awesome time and cant wait to go out and experience more of phoenix's rock crawling secene.

lancetkenyon
05-25-2007, 09:41 PM
Where is the Wayne famous write up and pics???

Wayco
05-26-2007, 09:02 AM
We rolled right through these trails. When I wasn't driving, I was spotting Paul. Really, I don't think White Tanks trails are all that scenic anyway.
Glad you had a good time Paul, my pleasure showing you around my back yard. :)
Vince, I need to stay home this weekend and catch up on my "house husband" chores. Like re-seating the flagstone between our homes.... Thanks for the invite though, after you have scouted this trail out, I may be up for a run next month.