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1BLKJP
04-26-2007, 03:52 PM
OK this sounds bad HB2443 has FAILED in the Third Read today................we have 24 hours to file a motion for a reconsideration vote. We have a Senator that will swing and run the motion.......here is what we need you all to do:

Everyone that is in each of these districts and votes or I suppose if you dont vote but live there too........that will help...........Identify your self as a district XX person, beg or whatever you feel ok with doing........ that this bill be giving a chance to work......................I will send a list out of the other senators that voted against too........as soon as it is up on the website................... but these are the swing votes that we need...............only Dem that was not for previously was Rios.

Here are the districts and their Senators that we have to convince:

Jorge Luis Garcia******************************************** ***** jgarcia@azleg.gov
District 27** Supported bill in Appropriations Committee, and voted against Gould amendment(good thing)
VOTED against bill in third read.

Charlene Pesquiera*** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** cpesquiera@azleg.gov
District 26*** Supported us in voting against the Gould amendment,
VOTED against the bill in third read.

Victor Soltero*** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** vsoltero@azleg.gov
District 29** Supported us in voting against the Gould amendment
Voted against in third read.

Timothy Bee*** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** tbee@azleg.gov
District30****has not supported at all

Rebecca Rios*** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** rrios@azleg.gov
District23*****she says that only people she has heard from are against.....lets change that.
She voted for the Gould amendment, he is a republican........she Dem. we need her vote!

Also here is a complete list of Senators that provided NO votes on today's reading. I have also included the 3 Senators at the bottom that did not vote at all. If you live in these districts please get the word out to your senator that we need their support for this bill.

Jorge Luis Garcia - District 27 - Jgarcia@azleg.gov
Chuck Gray - District 19 - Cgray@azleg.gov
Rebecca Rios - District 23 - Rrios@azleg.gov
Thayer Verschoor - District 22 - Tverschoor@azleg.gov
Robert Blendu - District 12 - Rblendu@azleg.gov
John Huppenthal - District 20 - Jhuppenthal@azleg.gov
Victor Soltero - District 29 - Rsoltero@azleg.gov
Robert Burns - District 9 - Rburns@azleg.gov
Ron Gould - District 3 - Rgould@azleg.gov
Karen Johnson - District 18 - Kjohnson@azleg.gov
Charlene Pesquiera - District 26 - Cpesquiera@azleg.gov
Jay Tibshraeny - District 21 - Jtibshraeny@azleg.gov
Timothy S. Bee - District 30 - Tbee@azleg.gov

Non-Voting
Leah Landrum Taylor - District 16 - Llandrumtaylor@azleg.gov
Richard Miranda - District 13 - Rmiranda@azleg.gov
Pamela Gorman - District 6 - Pgorman@azleg.gov


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Honorable Senator XXXXX
District XXXX

I live , work and play in districtXXX. The trails and places I ride are quickly being closed for lack of funds to maintain and manage. I support this bill and know that unlike the current recreation permit I must have from State Land department, FUNDS from HB 2443 will actually go to help keep trails open thru improved trail signs, access maps and funding for Law enforcement to help manage the trails systems.

We understand your support of not "adding more tax's to the public" however this bill is not a tax to the public. It is strictly FUNDING FROM THE SPECIFIC USERS.........FOR THE USERS to help us with education, maintenance and law enforcement to promote RESPONSIBLE OHV use on Arizona lands. If WE, are willing to support ourselves I sincerely request we be given a chance to make this work. OHV activity will only be increasing and...........WE NEED management, and the state budget simply cannot fund this. Why are we, as enthusiasts being penalized because we wish to help the land management agencies and law enforcement agencies build a responsible and educated group of public land users in our state?

We have worked for over 5 years to get a good bill to help manage OHV recreation in Arizona. We believe this is the bill. This bill will help protect this revenue source and help manage recreation use for future Arizona residents and visitors to enjoy for many years to come.

Again I ask you for your help.

Please give this bill a chance!

Please support HB2443.

Sincerely,

XXXXXX
District XXXXX

1BLKJP
04-26-2007, 03:57 PM
Sorry for posting this all over the board, but we have only 24 hours to file the motion to reconsider and we need to get support for this out to our senators. Especially anyone that lives in District 23.

Post this to any forum you frequent in the state. Post it to your email lists, have your neighbors or relatives email one for you also. This is as close to do or die as it gets on this thing.

Thank you all again for your continued support on these matters.

My1stJeep
04-26-2007, 04:38 PM
A note to those of you whose senators voted yes, thanking them and asking for their continued support would also go along way to ensure one of their votes don't end up switched.

Also please send them to your senator and not all. It appears that some of our emails did not come through and with all of the senators listed it may have come through as spam and never reached any of them. We need to focus on our individual senators and and encourage them to vote as those who they represent want them to vote.

ThumpAZ
04-26-2007, 07:00 PM
The district map I found online (to figure out my disctrict - 21) shows different names??
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/maps/state.htm

Sent a letter to the rep you listed for District 21, anyway.

YGOHOME
04-26-2007, 08:09 PM
if the district I'm registered in (28) is not one of the listed districts then there is nothing I can do?

Fire Ball
04-26-2007, 08:20 PM
I fired off a letter as a concerned citizen of Arizona to all the members. might fire off a couple more.

I'm trying to get all my family members to do the same. Time to step up folks.

Bill

AbsoluteOffroad
04-26-2007, 08:37 PM
Just got done sending it for our home district and the shop.

Lisa

Sandee McCullen
04-26-2007, 08:42 PM
if the district I'm registered in (28) is not one of the listed districts then there is nothing I can do?

District 28 Senator is Paula Aboud and she's been supportive throughout this legislation. A letter of "thanks" would most likely be appreciated.

Sandee McCullen
04-26-2007, 08:44 PM
The district map I found online (to figure out my disctrict - 21) shows different names??
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/maps/state.htm

Sent a letter to the rep you listed for District 21, anyway.

District 21 Senator is Jay Tibshraeny...... he's been against throughout.

Stu Olson
04-26-2007, 09:44 PM
district 13.....done

jwohl
04-26-2007, 09:52 PM
Another for district 21

John

rockwerks
04-27-2007, 06:23 AM
district 2......even though we are ok there

Special K
04-27-2007, 11:55 AM
I sent one to District 19 Senator Chuck Gray.

westy
04-27-2007, 02:18 PM
District 26, letter sent off....thanks for the heads up and diligent work to keeping our trails open.

1BLKJP
05-01-2007, 04:18 PM
Here is the latest on HB 2443 OHV indicia plate.

After much wrangling , a motion to wave the 24 hour rule was passed 14 to 13, for HB 2443. This means the bill could go back to the Senate Floor and a motion to reconsider could be presented????this motion squeaked pass15 for 11 against. This means that the HB 2443 will go back to the Senate Floor to be heard again in third read.

Here is what we need from you.

1) Call the following Senators. Tell them exactly what is in the below message, please no adlibbing on this ????we need the same message from everyone on this ??..give your name and district , what you ride , how many in your family????..MOST of all , you support this bill! It does not matter if you call after hours??leave a message , if you talk to a person at the office , be polite and state the facts ????don't get mad or elaborate???keep it simple. If more than one rides in your family??send separate phone messages ??..give an age for kids too.

This message is for SenatorXXX,
My Family or I appreciates the Senate giving HB 2443 a second chance to be heard. We / I belong to XXX Club. We respectfully ask you to support this very important Bill that will help manage OHV use in Arizona. This Bill will address the major problems in managing OHV use including Law Enforcement, signage and maps and additional laws to address environmental concerns and property rights.
HB 2443 will actually reduce the fees I or WE currently pay and insures that the funds collected under HB 2443 go back to OHV programs for responsible and available OHV recreation.
IF ASKED?..your club is a member of AZOHVC or heard about this from AZOHVC emails.
Please give this Bill a chance.
Please Vote Yes on HB 2443


Who to Call: If you are in this district , make sure to mention it!

Senator Paula Aboud Dist. 28 Dem. Phone # 602-926-5262
Ask she continues her support.

Senator Timothy Bee Dist. 30 Rep. Phone # 602 926-5683
Thank you for the help getting bill reconsidered.


Senator Robert Burns Dist. 9 Rep. Phone # 602-926-5993
Thank him for running the reconsideration motion thru.

Senator Albert Hale Dist. 2 Navajo Co. Phone # 602-926-4323
If you live or vote or ride in Navajo County , let him know !

Senator Richard Miranda Dist.13 Phone #602-926-5911
Ask for his support.

Rebecca Rios Dist. 23 Dem. Phone # 602-926-5685
If you are in her district let her know how displeased you are with her being against Bill.

Senator Victor Soltero Dist. 29 Dem Phone # 602-926-5342
Thinks his dist. Is against bill.

Senator Tibshraeny Dist.21 Rep Phone # 602-926-4481

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2) Send an email to all the Senators in the attached list (not strike thrus please). Again follow the outline , keep it simple, be appreciative of the Senators time????.thank them for there consideration but let them know , as above, that you support this Bill. Club you are with would help to ???..get anyone that you know to write too???..even if they don't ride they can support this. If more than one rides in your family??send separate emails ??..give an age for kids and let them write too.

Honorable Senator XXX
My Family or I greatly appreciates the Senate giving HB 2443 a second chance to be heard. We ride ??.ATV or MC or 4wd and We / I belong to XXX Club. We respectfully ask you to support this very important Bill that will help manage OHV use in Arizona. This Bill will address the major problems in managing OHV use including Law Enforcement, signage and maps, and additional laws to address environmental concerns and property rights.
HB 2443 will actually reduce the fees I or WE currently pay and insures that the funds collected under HB 2443 go back to OHV programs for responsible and available OHV recreation.

This recreation generates 4 Billion Dollar a year in revenue and 36,000 jobs.
HB 2443 will help keep this very popular pass time alive and well managed for future generations. OR my kids.

Please give this Bill a chance.

Please vote yes HB2443

Sincerely XXXX
List Address Also

paboud@azleg.gov
laguirre@azleg.gov
callen@azleg.gov
marzberger@azleg.gov
tbee@azleg.gov
kbennett@azleg.gov
bbrotherton@azleg.gov
rburns@azleg.gov
rcannell@azleg.gov
kcheuvront@azleg.gov
jflake@azleg.gov
jgarcia@azleg.gov
lgray@azleg.gov
ahale@azleg.gov
jharper@azleg.gov
thellon@azleg.gov
jhuppenthal@azleg.gov
mjarrett@azleg.gov
kjohnson@azleg.gov
bleff@azleg.gov
dmartin@azleg.gov
rmiranda@azleg.gov
hmitchell@azleg.gov
rrios@azleg.gov
vsoltero@azleg.gov
jtibshraeny@azleg.gov
tverschoor@azleg.gov
jwaring@azleg.gov

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Additional information to consider:

Barry M. Aarons, Author of the "Taxpayer Protection Pledge", does not consider voting for this HB 2443 to be a violation of the Pledge. Mr Aarons will take any call from Senators or be happy to email you his response on this issue. Many of the Senators have signed this Pledge and are worried about violating it. They are voting no because of this.

SHNIPE
05-01-2007, 05:03 PM
reposted from the thread in land use

paboud@azleg.gov;laguirre@azleg.gov;callen@azleg.g ov;marzberger@azleg.gov;tbee@azleg.gov;kbennett@az leg.gov;bbrotherton@azleg.gov;rburns@azleg.gov;rca nnell@azleg.gov;kcheuvront@azleg.gov;jflake@azleg. gov;jgarcia@azleg.gov;lgray@azleg.gov;ahale@azleg. gov;jharper@azleg.gov;thellon@azleg.gov;jhuppentha l@azleg.gov;mjarrett@azleg.gov;kjohnson@azleg.gov; bleff@azleg.gov;dmartin@azleg.gov;rmiranda@azleg.g ov;hmitchell@azleg.gov;rrios@azleg.gov;vsoltero@az leg.gov;jtibshraeny@azleg.gov;tverschoor@azleg.gov ;jwaring@azleg.gov


for anyone that doesnt want to add each one individially.Some got kicked back including the following:

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

Delivery to the following recipients failed.

bbrotherton@azleg.gov
dmartin@azleg.gov
hmitchell@azleg.gov
kbennett@azleg.gov
laguirre@azleg.gov
mjarrett@azleg.gov
rcannell@azleg.gov
thellon@azleg.gov


Here was my edit of the email.
Honorable Senator
I greatly appreciate the Senate giving HB 2443 a second chance to be heard. We 4wd and I belong to Arizona Virtual Jeep Club. We respectfully ask you to support this very important Bill that will help manage OHV use in Arizona. This Bill will address the major problems in managing OHV use including Law Enforcement, signage and maps, and additional laws to address environmental concerns and property rights.
HB 2443 will actually reduce the fees I or WE currently pay and insures that the funds collected under HB 2443 go back to OHV programs for responsible and available OHV recreation.

This recreation generates 4 Billion Dollar a year in revenue and 36,000 jobs.
HB 2443 will help keep this very popular pass time alive and well managed for future generations. OR my kids.

Please give this Bill a chance.

Dennis
Responsible OHV User

My1stJeep
05-02-2007, 02:48 PM
THis is a must, we really need this. Please, write and call your senators. A letter to each and every no vote is a great idea, plus a note of thanks to any voting yes. We need this more than I can even express, please take the time, even if you have done this over the last couple weeks, we need our senators to know how much this means to us and that we support it.

Steve
05-06-2007, 06:28 PM
I have received a message back from Senator Linda Gray of District 10. She states she voted in favor and will be supporting it again on the next vote. Hopefully she can persuade other Senators also.

Hackle
05-06-2007, 07:15 PM
I know Linda and respect her a lot, she sent me an e-mail letting me know she will continue to support the bills also.

Sandee McCullen
05-06-2007, 09:27 PM
reposted from the thread in land use

paboud@azleg.gov;laguirre@azleg.gov;callen@azleg.g ov;marzberger@azleg.gov;tbee@azleg.gov;kbennett@az leg.gov;bbrotherton@azleg.gov;rburns@azleg.gov;rca nnell@azleg.gov;kcheuvront@azleg.gov;jflake@azleg. gov;jgarcia@azleg.gov;lgray@azleg.gov;ahale@azleg. gov;jharper@azleg.gov;thellon@azleg.gov;jhuppentha l@azleg.gov;mjarrett@azleg.gov;kjohnson@azleg.gov; bleff@azleg.gov;dmartin@azleg.gov;rmiranda@azleg.g ov;hmitchell@azleg.gov;rrios@azleg.gov;vsoltero@az leg.gov;jtibshraeny@azleg.gov;tverschoor@azleg.gov ;jwaring@azleg.gov


for anyone that doesnt want to add each one individially.Some got kicked back including the following:

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

Delivery to the following recipients failed.

bbrotherton@azleg.gov
dmartin@azleg.gov
hmitchell@azleg.gov
kbennett@azleg.gov
laguirre@azleg.gov
mjarrett@azleg.gov
rcannell@azleg.gov
thellon@azleg.gov


Here was my edit of the email.
Honorable Senator
I greatly appreciate the Senate giving HB 2443 a second chance to be heard. We 4wd and I belong to Arizona Virtual Jeep Club. We respectfully ask you to support this very important Bill that will help manage OHV use in Arizona. This Bill will address the major problems in managing OHV use including Law Enforcement, signage and maps, and additional laws to address environmental concerns and property rights.
HB 2443 will actually reduce the fees I or WE currently pay and insures that the funds collected under HB 2443 go back to OHV programs for responsible and available OHV recreation.

This recreation generates 4 Billion Dollar a year in revenue and 36,000 jobs.
HB 2443 will help keep this very popular pass time alive and well managed for future generations. OR my kids.

Please give this Bill a chance.

Dennis
Responsible OHV User


PLEASE NOTE: Several of the addresses you're sending to are not current. The current list for us to be sending to is listed below. THANKS for your attention and great letters. Hopefully the second Third Read will calendar this week. As soon as it calendars we will notify everyone......... we'll need letters and phone calls at that time. For now let's all cease letters and calls. The masses can go against us if they get too many.

Here are the districts and their Senators that we have to convince:

Jorge Luis Garcia******************************************** ***** jgarcia@azleg.gov
District 27** Supported bill in Appropriations Committee, and voted against Gould amendment(good thing)
VOTED against bill in third read.

Charlene Pesquiera*** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** cpesquiera@azleg.gov
District 26*** Supported us in voting against the Gould amendment,
VOTED against the bill in third read.

Victor Soltero*** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** vsoltero@azleg.gov
District 29** Supported us in voting against the Gould amendment
Voted against in third read.

Timothy Bee*** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** tbee@azleg.gov
District30****has not supported at all

Rebecca Rios*** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** rrios@azleg.gov
District23*****she says that only people she has heard from are against.....lets change that.
She voted for the Gould amendment, he is a republican........she Dem. we need her vote!

Also here is a complete list of Senators that provided NO votes on today's reading. I have also included the 3 Senators at the bottom that did not vote at all. If you live in these districts please get the word out to your senator that we need their support for this bill.

Jorge Luis Garcia - District 27 - Jgarcia@azleg.gov
Chuck Gray - District 19 - Cgray@azleg.gov
Rebecca Rios - District 23 - Rrios@azleg.gov
Thayer Verschoor - District 22 - Tverschoor@azleg.gov
Robert Blendu - District 12 - Rblendu@azleg.gov
John Huppenthal - District 20 - Jhuppenthal@azleg.gov
Victor Soltero - District 29 - Rsoltero@azleg.gov
Robert Burns - District 9 - Rburns@azleg.gov
Ron Gould - District 3 - Rgould@azleg.gov
Karen Johnson - District 18 - Kjohnson@azleg.gov
Charlene Pesquiera - District 26 - Cpesquiera@azleg.gov
Jay Tibshraeny - District 21 - Jtibshraeny@azleg.gov
Timothy S. Bee - District 30 - Tbee@azleg.gov

Non-Voting
Leah Landrum Taylor - District 16 - Llandrumtaylor@azleg.gov
Richard Miranda - District 13 - Rmiranda@azleg.gov
Pamela Gorman - District 6 - Pgorman@azleg.gov

Antman
05-07-2007, 08:24 AM
Is there anyone seeking help from the Vendors, ATV crowd?

PerilousCustoms
05-07-2007, 09:08 AM
Sent one for District 22...

1BLKJP
05-07-2007, 02:46 PM
Is there anyone seeking help from the Vendors, ATV crowd?

Bill,

We are always working in conjunction with both Vendors, ORBA, and all other tracks of OHV thru the Coalition. Everybody is on board with this one and it's even such a good bill that the Enviro's are neutral on it because they don't want to look bad by coming out against it. Everything possible is being done to ensure this bill passes on the last vote. A huge thanks go out to all of you for the work you've put in sending letters and making calls when I've asked you to on here. Without it we probably wouldn't have gotten it back to the point it will be voted on again.

Antman
05-07-2007, 03:36 PM
Keep up the good work Jack. Same for everyone else. Let's Go get em!:)