Presidential spotlight: John Edwards

[SavageSun4x4]

Insight into John "sue them and get rich" Edwards

A central theme in the Edwards campaign is "alleviating poverty". That said lets see what he REALLY thinks about helping the poor:D

Haircuts: Joseph Torrenueva, stylist to the stars counts Big John as a regular customer for haircuts at $400 each. Even "Slick" Wily only paid $200.:rolleyes:

Home: 28,000 sq ft, $5.3M, sitting on 102 acres near Chapel Hill NC. Indoor basketball, handball and pool.:eek:


Hey, Johnny boy, how about selling off some of that stuff and living like the rest of us poor folk. And while your at it, take some of your winnings from your lawsuits and donate them to the poor.:rolleyes:

Why is it in my mind, I am thinking that you have got a place on your "plantation" for us share croppers!:rolleyes: Got any openings for a man-servant?:rolleyes:

Just another DimOkrat looking out for the people.

[Kiwi]

Now Don, don't you go picking on them peace luvin' liberals!

It takes ALOT of work to tell others how to live - they need a retreat to recoup and re-charge thier brains

And you know, it takes alot of money to have your stylist make your haircut look like a 15.00 Supercuts do!!

[John_P]

John Edwards is a very interesting candidate...and I am not surprised you would take a cheap shot at the fact he is a very good trial lawyer. If you think this guy is an ambulance chaser or Larry H. Parker...you are sadly mistaken.

Also, liberal does not equal communist. Just as conservative does not equal jack***.

[offroadaz]

Also, liberal does not equal communist. Just as conservative does equal jack *****.

did you intentionally leave off the not to the conservative comment or was that one of those freudian slips

[John_P]

did you intentionally leave off the not to the conservative comment or was that one of those freudian slips

Edited for her pleasure. ;)

[DREDnot]

John Edwards is a very interesting candidate...

and quite handsome:p


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AE847UXu3Q

[Scramblin_Jim]

too funny! Yep that's going to make me vote for him! Can you imagine him holding up the Joint Cheifs as he prims before addressing the invasion of Mexico into Kansas.

[John_P]

too funny! Yep that's going to make me vote for him! Can you imagine him holding up the Joint Cheifs as he prims before addressing the invasion of Mexico into Kansas.

Yea...I guess more Americas are satisfied with this pre-TV routine...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpL6EIMShO4

[offroadaz]

lol one finger victory salute :)

[azrubyman]

Just to put it in perspective.. I got these numbers from a Washington Post article after doing a 5 second search.

Net worth estimates:

Edwards = 12.8-60 million
Clinton = 10-50 million
McCain = 25-38 million
Obama - 1-2.5 million
Bidden - 100 - 150 thousand

and GW Bush has been estimated to be worthless up to 126 million depending on who you ask. :D
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[John_P]

What surprises me is that a guy like Don...the free spirited capitalist, let the spoils go to those of most merit, guru finds Edwards success condemnable.

[RokNRich]

and GW Bush has been estimated to be worthless up to 126 million depending on who you ask. :D
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Classic !

Cheney is estimated to be worth 1.2 BILLION :eek:

What surprises me is that a guy like Don...the free spirited capitalist, let the spoils go to those of most merit, guru finds Edwards success condemnable.


C'mon, you aren't really surprised are you :confused:

Edwards ???????
He's proven that he can lose to a tool like GW, that in itself is reason for the Dem's to find someone else !

[John_P]

Edwards ???????
He's proven that he can lose to a tool like GW, that in itself is reason for the Dem's to find someone else !

Kerry lost to GW...I am sure Edwards would have beat Cheney hands down. ;)

[SavageSun4x4]

John Edwards is a very interesting candidate...and I am not surprised you would take a cheap shot at the fact he is a very good trial lawyer. If you think this guy is an ambulance chaser or Larry H. Parker...you are sadly mistaken.

Also, liberal does not equal communist. Just as conservative does not equal jack***.


Cheap shot? Facts my friend, facts. Sure, Edwards was a successful personal injury trial lawyer who represented families and children that had been wrongly injured by negligent corporate manufacturers, and municipal entities. Ohh sounds so high and mighty, he is almost a Robin Hood. Personal injury trial lawyer, you know, the guy that sues McDonalds because some lady spills coffee in her lap as she is driving down the street.

That my friend is NOT capitalism. That is the parasites of America bleeding YOU and ME dry. Personal Injury Trial Lawyer: One of takes money for the purpose of taking your lies and swearing they are the truth. Ultimate spin-master. Paid professional liar.

Liberal equals communist:confused: Where in the post did I say or imply that? No lie to great huh? If Edwards is anything he is a socialist.

[John_P]

Cheap shot? Facts my friend, facts. Sure, Edwards was a successful personal injury trial lawyer who represented families and children that had been wrongly injured by negligent corporate manufacturers, and municipal entities. Ohh sounds so high and mighty, he is almost a Robin Hood. Personal injury trial lawyer, you know, the guy that sues McDonalds because some lady spills coffee in her lap as she is driving down the street.

Ha...facts pal, facts. I like the way you use the McDonalds case to paint personal injury lawyers as parasites...facts...

"Over the previous decade McDonald's had received over 700 complaints about its coffee scalding people, including babies. They had settled all lawsuits out of court, with some payments as high as $500,000. But McDonald's continued to serve its coffee 20 degrees hotter than any other major restaurant chain.

Stella Liebeck hadn't originally planned on going to a jury trial. She had asked for compensatory damages to pay for her skin grafts, but McDonald's offered only $800. By the end of the trial, however, the jury was convinced that she was entitled $200,000 compensatory damages for her medical costs, which they reduced by $40,000 because she was partially to blame for having spilled the coffee.

What got the attention, however, was the punitive damages of $2.7 million, equal at the time to 2 days worth of McDonalds's coffee sales. Remember, this decision was made in light of the fact that McDonald's had long known that its coffee, served 20 degrees hotter than the industry standard, had resulted in hundreds of presumably avoidable second and third degree burns. But even after all of that, the judge still reduced the punitive award to $480,000--a sizeable sum, but one awarded to an 81 year old plaintiff only because McDonald's was partially to blame for her suffering third degree burns throughout her groin because McDonalds persisted, despite knowing it had caused hundreds of scaldings, in serving coffee that it knew was extremely dangerous.

So, if you hear people drone on about how John Edwards is on the side of those shark trial lawyers who file frivolous lawsuits like that one against McDonald's because its coffee was too hot, tell them the name Stella Liebeck. Tell them that 81 year old Stella Liebeck suffered third degree burns and incurred hundreds of thousands of dollars of medical costs for the grafts she needed to repair the skin on her groin, inner thighs and butt. Tell them that Stella Liebeck just wanted McDonald's to pay for the damage they had caused, but McDonald's only offered her $800 for $200,000 worth of medical bills. Tell them that prior to Stella Liebeck's scalding McDonald's had already heard about over 700 cases of people being seriously burned by their coffee, but they continued to serve it 20 degrees hotter than any other major restaurant chain"


That my friend is NOT capitalism. That is the parasites of America bleeding YOU and ME dry. Personal Injury Trial Lawyer: One of takes money for the purpose of taking your lies and swearing they are the truth. Ultimate spin-master. Paid professional liar.

Ready to hand America over to coporate America already Don?

Hey...I am not defending ALL trial lawyers, but if you are going to be so narrow-sighted to throw Edwards in with the worst of them, then you seriously need to read up on Edwards.

[offroadaz]

John if Edwards was out of the race who would you vote for? Gore or Hillary?

[John_P]

John if Edwards was out of the race who would you vote for? Gore or Hillary?

Who ever said I would vote for Edwards?

Gore? What happened to Obama?

How come you did not list Republican candidates?

Who are you voting for?

[offroadaz]

I have no idea who I am voting for. I do not like any of the republican candidates

But back to my question, you had to chose, who would it be? Gore or Hillary?

[SavageSun4x4]

Ha...facts pal, facts. I like the way you use the McDonalds case to paint personal injury lawyers as parasites...facts...

"Over the previous decade McDonald's had received over 700 complaints about its coffee scalding people, including babies.

The problem Johnny is that your generation is of "its not my fault!" The result is you see the world as being responsible for you, the government NEEDS to take care of... from cradle to grave and somewhere along the way you and some greedy trail lawyer need to get rich of "BIG" corporate America.

Fact is the woman was driving down the street when she applied the brake squeezing the coffee cup, knocking the lid off and spilling her coffee.

Not sure why a baby is drinking a "scalding" cup 'o joe to begin with:confused:

So while your sitting around on your haunches trying to squeeze your coffee why don't you start and run a company like I have and PAY incredible insurance premiums for liability of your employees and staggering premiums for senior management. Even today the biggest cost of auto insurance is liability.

Wake up and smell the coffee:eek:

[06GrnRubi]

Anyone know how to get ahold of Kerry? I got a brain freeze from drinking a McDonald's shake too fast. That should be worth something.

[John_P]

The problem Johnny is that your generation is of "its not my fault!" The result is you see the world as being responsible for you, the government NEEDS to take care of... from cradle to grave and somewhere along the way you and some greedy trail lawyer need to get rich of "BIG" corporate America.

Fact is the woman was driving down the street when she applied the brake squeezing the coffee cup, knocking the lid off and spilling her coffee.

Not sure why a baby is drinking a "scalding" cup 'o joe to begin with:confused:

So while your sitting around on your haunches trying to squeeze your coffee why don't you start and run a company like I have and PAY incredible insurance premiums for liability of your employees and staggering premiums for senior management. Even today the biggest cost of auto insurance is liability.

Wake up and smell the coffee:eek:

Look Don, I am not one to throw personal responsibility out the window. However, if the system is not open, then how are we to know when coporations are really putting us in harms way and when they are not? A jury of this woman's peers found McDonalds culpable.

[Joe West]

The bottom line for me in all of this is; ultimately I will choose whichever candidate best represents the ideologies and beliefs that are important to me... Republican or Democrat.

I can tell you this... I wish I had voted for Gore instead of Bush. I DESPISE the behavior displayed by our "president" (lower case "p" to show my utter lack of respect for the clown who now occupies the oval office)

We owe our democrat led congress to good old Georgie... and you know what? I'm actually glad... it shows that Americans are at least smart enough to recognize what an idiot GWB is.

GWB will go down in history with less respect than Bill Clinton... and you know what? I respect Clinton more.... at least he didn't have a small man's complex which lead to the death of thousands of American soldiers.

Geeze... I need to go get a stiff drink now... Just thinking about GWB makes my blood boil... and to add salt to the wound; I voted for the idiot.

JW

[SavageSun4x4]

Look Don, I am not one to throw personal responsibility out the window. However, if the system is not open, then how are we to know when coporations are really putting us in harms way and when they are not? A jury of this woman's peers found McDonalds culpable.
Legit point and indeed that are some if not many corps that have a singular goal and that is to rip off the public. In spite of being a hard line capitalist I am not so hard line as to believe in a policy of lassiere faire. And, yes it is not easy to draw the line of lassiere faire and intervention.:confused:

HOWEVER there are a few things that might tip the tables to a more level playing field.
1) The loser has to pay all court costs and lawyers fees

2) Limit the punitive damages to a fair and reasonable amount.

You don't give someone who is making $10 bucks and hour and its the most they have ever made and do not have a better than 50/50 likelihood of doing any better a $100M dollar settlement. You don't pay a $Billion to adults that smoke and have smoked ALL of their lives, 2 packs a day of Camels. Somewhere in the equation personal responsibility must step up to the plate. [I was a 2 pack a day smoker, Camel non-filers and I knew they did not call them "coffin nails" for nothing...I quit and so can anyone else!];)

Enron/Kenneth Lay, etc: Frankly I am HAPPY the SOB died of a heart attack, I hope the stress and stain brought it on and I hope it hurt like hell as he watched his life ebb away in front of his eyes. We just did not get them all.:(

And I think every individual who sits on the "other side of the wall" should be held not only responsible but accountable under penalty of SEVERE jail time. Believe me my tolerance factor for theft at that level is slim to none. There is a reason why I left corp America and the "other side of the wall" to start my own company.;)

Remember it is NOT the corp that is paying the $100M settlement...it is you and me!:eek:

[RokNRich]

Great post Joe ! Be wary of being called a liberal or communist from this point forward, or even a Dimokrat (sp) ;)


Lawyers: DC is full of them.

http://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/RS22007.pdf
Congressional Quarterly, Inc, ?109th Congress: Statistically Speaking,? p. 62. In the
overwhelming majority of previous Congresses, business has followed law as the dominant
occupation of Members. In the 109th Congress, 218 Members (160 Representatives, 58 Senators)
list their occupation as law; 195 Members (163 Representatives, 32 Senators) list public
service/politics, and 193 Members (163 Representatives, 30 Senators) list business. Members
often list more than one profession when surveyed by Congressional Quarterly, Inc.

In regards to Edwards, he made alot of money suing Dr.s when people had babies with birth defects. NOT McDonalds or tobacco


As far as TORT reform, GWB pledged to do something about it in 2000 and 2004. What ? Another item still not complete on GW's "to do" list ?? Say it ain't so......


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[RokNRich]

Posting this again, maybe some people will read it and actually have some of the facts pertaining to this case, instead of weblawyering:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald%27s_coffee_case


Edit:
Grabbed the good stuff:


On February 27, 1992, Stella Liebeck, a 79-year-old woman from Albuquerque, New Mexico, ordered a 49-cent cup of coffee from the drive-thru of a local McDonald's restaurant. Liebeck was in the passenger's seat of her Ford Probe, and her grandson Chris parked the car so that Liebeck could add cream and sugar to her coffee. She placed the coffee cup between her knees and pulled the far side of the lid toward her to remove it. In the process, she spilled the entire cup of coffee on her lap.[6]

Liebeck was wearing cotton sweatpants; they absorbed the coffee and held it against her skin as she sat in the puddle of hot liquid for over 90 seconds, scalding her thighs, buttocks, and groin.[7] Liebeck was taken to the hospital, where it was determined that she had suffered third-degree burns on six percent of her skin and lesser burns over sixteen percent.[8] She remained in the hospital for eight days while she underwent skin grafting. Two years of treatment followed.
Liebeck sought to settle with McDonald's for US$20,000 to cover her medical costs, which were $11,000, but the company offered only $800. When McDonald's refused to raise its offer, Liebeck obtained Texas attorney Reed Morgan. Morgan filed suit in a New Mexico District Court accusing McDonald's of "gross negligence" for selling coffee that was "unreasonably dangerous" and "defectively manufactured." McDonald's refused Morgan's offer to settle for $90,000.[3]

Verdict and settlement
Applying the principles of comparative negligence, the jury found that McDonald's was 80% responsible for the incident and Liebeck was 20% at fault. Though there was a warning on the coffee cup, the jury decided that the warning was neither large enough nor sufficient. They awarded Liebeck US$200,000 in compensatory damages, which was then reduced by 20% to $160,000. In addition, they awarded her $2.7 million in punitive damages. The jurors apparently arrived at this figure from Morgan's suggestion to penalize McDonald's for one or two days worth of coffee revenues, which were about $1.35 million per day.[3]

The judge reduced punitive damages to $480,000, three times the compensatory amount, for a total of $640,000. The decision was appealed by both McDonald's and Liebeck in December 1994, but the parties settled out of court for an undisclosed amount less than $600,000

[John_P]

Not too far off of what I posted, but corraborating nonetheless.

[Joe West]

I err on the side of conservatism... I like personal freedoms and abhor governmental control. I don't expect anyone to take care of me... not even the government that I pay a fairly large sum of money to each year.

That being said... I find that "in general" I side with the Republicans and Libertarians on most issues... and with Democrats on a few issues. I don't however "put on blinders" and support stupidity; regardless of which party generates it.

In the case of GWB... stupidity is about all that man emanates and I am literally embarrassed that he is the president of the United States and moreover; embarrassed that I voted for him.

I know there are many who feel the way I do... I just hope that next year we don't end up having to choose between "dumb and dumber" or "the lesser of two evils"

Joe


Great post Joe ! Be wary of being called a liberal or communist from this point forward, or even a Dimokrat (sp) ;)


Lawyers: DC is full of them.

http://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/RS22007.pdf
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In regards to Edwards, he made alot of money suing Dr.s when people had babies with birth defects. NOT McDonalds or tobacco


As far as TORT reform, GWB pledged to do something about it in 2000 and 2004. What ? Another item still not complete on GW's "to do" list ?? Say it ain't so......


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[SavageSun4x4]

Not sure "web lawyering" is the issue here, nor has ANYONE said that Edwards got his money from McDonalds or the Tobacco industry.

About the only one trying to be a weblawyer would not know the difference between a tort and a torte.

That said the is issue evolved out Edwards hypocritical view from his 102 acre estate and 28k sq ft house that he paid for by being a trail lawyer. The discussion revolves around excessive judgments.

There is a logical thread thread here that johnny-come-lately has not made a contribution to other than to try and interject negatives and skewed picayune off points.:D

[John_P]

The discussion revolves around excessive judgments.

Put a number on pain and suffering, life-long disability, or a human life and we can begin. :cool:

[jpotts]

Put a number on pain and suffering, life-long disability, or a human life and we can begin. :cool:

I think that it is impossible to actually quantify this. I believe that these court decisions are not only intended to give the prosecution an amount of money that will adequately pay them for their loss or hardship, but will also act as a punitive measure to prevent the offense from recurring.

If you believe this, then maybe it is possible to understand the vast amount of money that tobacco companies or McDonalds pay to people for seemingly trivial issues. In many of these cases, the companies have had plenty of opportunity to change their ways before these cases came about. In order to have a punitive financial impact on a company like this, the judgement needs to be large.

I think by putting a financial cap on these cases protects these mega, multinational corporations from being significantly responsible for their actions and the way that they do business, leaving them somewhat untouchable.

Anyway, that's just my opinion.

Jamie

[SavageSun4x4]

Put a number on pain and suffering, life-long disability, or a human life and we can begin. :cool:
I was waiting on that John;)

In fact the government and insurance companies have and have done so in excruciating detail. Don't get me wrong, I don't think that giving someone $10k for loss of a finger for example is always the answer. In fact punitive damages are often just IMO...that is unless your are a soldier who lost his legs, etc, etc in combat and don't EVEN want to get me started on that subject. No one pays less!!!

You can ask the state workers comp board they have the rates they pay. So if you want to lose a leg then do it in a car wreck or something, but do not do it on the job and for gawd's sake do not do it in combat in defense of your country.

[John_P]

I was waiting on that John;)

In fact the government and insurance companies have and have done so in excruciating detail. Don't get me wrong, I don't think that giving someone $10k for loss of a finger for example is always the answer. In fact punitive damages are often just IMO...that is unless your are a soldier who lost his legs, etc, etc in combat and don't EVEN want to get me started on that subject. No one pays less!!!

You can ask the state workers comp board they have the rates they pay. So if you want to lose a leg then do it in a car wreck or something, but do not do it on the job and for gawd's sake do not do it in combat in defense of your country.

Funny you should mention that because a friend of mine works for worker's comp, specifically dealing with injury related accidents and death. However, doesn't the degree of negligence play a role here? Even on the job? That at least seems to be what led to the damages in the McD's case...history of negligence.

[SavageSun4x4]

Funny you should mention that because a friend of mine works for worker's comp, specifically dealing with injury related accidents and death. However, doesn't the degree of negligence play a role here? Even on the job? That at least seems to be what led to the damages in the McD's case...history of negligence.

Absouletely negligence is a factor and should be.

I have been a party to several class action lawsuits and as a general rule the only folks that walk away from the table with a pocketful of cash are the lawyers. And some of these have been against major multinational corps. In one I got a check for $10:D

Typically the law firm gets 25-33% of the final settlement and often PLUS legal fees.

Tobacco: The settlements were WAY out of line often times. But what was worse was the precedent that the individual in not responsible for their actions and worse, their continued actions. This led to suits against gun companies because someone was shot during a robbery. This seems to have abated. Had it not, would I be able to sue Jack Daniel's because I got drunk?

The system is out of control.

[John_P]

The system is out of control.

Is it really "out of control" or have a few high-profile cases created that perception?

Second...how would you define "out-of control"? Does one excesive amount constitute "out-of-control" or does it take a great many? Or is the nature of the jdugement? i.e...your smoking example...

And most importantly, what happens on average?

Here is an example...

In this case, a 9 year old was hit by an employee in a company vehicle. The child's leg was permamently cosmetically disfigured from the hip down to the ankle. Skin-graphs and extensive surgery to repair the bones in the leg were required. The child missed a year of school rehabilatating. The child has experienced (yet) no limitations in terms of use.

The company AND the driver were found negligent.

How much in punitative damages?

[amber.hodge]

too funny! Yep that's going to make me vote for him! Can you imagine him holding up the Joint Cheifs as he prims before addressing the invasion of Mexico into Kansas.

God help us if he's elected...of course, he is better than Hillary Clinton...I've believed for a long time that Satan is a woman...well, there is the proof! We'll still be on the border mission, but she'll have the national guard down on the border handing out candy, road maps, and DES applications.

Personally, I hope that John McCain ends up winning the presidential candidacy...I think McCain as prez and Guliani (sp) as vice prez would be a pretty good ticket from the republican gene pool we have at the moment. I'd trust McCain as a commander in chief, he's been through it all (POW) and I'd imagine he'd have that experience in the back of his mind before sending us anywhere.

[Kiwi]

I might interject, I think the issue is hypocoristsy.

Liberals have the tendency to run as the 'party of the working man' give speeches like they understand what it's like to be a hard working citizen. Fact is, they do not, nor will they ever. They routinely trash corporate 'greed' yet, their own lifestyles are often far more lavish than that of any CEO they criticize.

Edwards 'profit margin' vastly exceeded that of any oil company exec's pay, yet liberals favorite punching bag is 'big oil'

Liberal love to criticize corporate greed, yet, who is it time after time, that donates millions to community projects or charities? How much has Bill Gates given away? And, he doesn't hold a press conference everytime he makes a contribution, nor does he make an 'appearance' to have others raise money in his behalf.

There is nothing wrong about being rich in America, nor is there nothing wrong about a company that actually makes a profit. But, I find something really wrong with these ultra rich liberals running around yelling and screaming at everyone about how evil corporate America is, or how evil man is increasing their carbon footprint, then hopping in their private fleet of SUV's, flying back to one of their mega mansions on their private jets, and telling everyone 'I feel your pain'

[jpotts]

Edwards 'profit margin' vastly exceeded that of any oil company exec's pay, yet liberals favorite punching bag is 'big oil'



I'm not so sure about this... Many of the richest people in the world (according to Forbes) are oil guys. In the last few years, the oil/energy industry has added the second most people to the billionaire list of any industry (second to the real estate industry). Unfortunately, many of them are not Americans. There are a ton of Russians that are making cash off of us.

Anyway, I'm not trying to make an argument with this post - just a fact check.

[SavageSun4x4]

I might interject, I think the issue is hypocoristsy.

Liberals have the tendency to run as the 'party of the working man' give speeches like they understand what it's like to be a hard working citizen. Fact is, they do not, nor will they ever. They routinely trash corporate 'greed' yet, their own lifestyles are often far more lavish than that of any CEO they criticize.

Edwards 'profit margin' vastly exceeded that of any oil company exec's pay, yet liberals favorite punching bag is 'big oil'

Liberal love to criticize corporate greed, yet, who is it time after time, that donates millions to community projects or charities? How much has Bill Gates given away? And, he doesn't hold a press conference everytime he makes a contribution, nor does he make an 'appearance' to have others raise money in his behalf.

There is nothing wrong about being rich in America, nor is there nothing wrong about a company that actually makes a profit. But, I find something really wrong with these ultra rich liberals running around yelling and screaming at everyone about how evil corporate America is, or how evil man is increasing their carbon footprint, then hopping in their private fleet of SUV's, flying back to one of their mega mansions on their private jets, and telling everyone 'I feel your pain'

Karl, don't think we have an applause button on here but if we did, I would punch it. CLEAR that you read and understood the point I was making in my post #1. It was about hypocrisy. Edwards likes to brag about coming from poor stock and now he lives in a 102 acre estate and gets $400 haircuts. I can only assume his example of getting ahead is to sue and keep suing until you hit the jackpot, then run for president.:rolleyes:

Had Edwards started a company, be it an oil company or construction and spent the better part of his life risking everything to make it then in my eyes it would be different. When I started my company I risked everything I owned, worked hard and had to compete in the market place. Most lawyers do none of that. And the monies they get come out of the pockets of you and me, add to inflation, depress our economy as its all "overhead" costs. Not the same rules that a guy who opens a pizza parlor or coffee shop or Wal Mart have to play by.

On that note I will close out this thread and look for another "Presidential spotlight". By the way NO ONE is off limits.

Enjoy