FJ on sunday the 15th

[John92YJ]

I have not been out to FJ yet and would like to check it out. I herd it was a good spot so lets get some Jeeps together and have a good time.

[ROKCRLR]

I might be interested. Which trails did you have in mind?

[desertdawg]

What trail? I should be ready to go Sunday.

[John92YJ]

not sure on the trails, I don't know the area so I would like someone to lead the way.

[desertdawg]

Elvis, Upper Ajax, Woodpeckers? Are you locked or open?

[John92YJ]

open but I like a challenge

[GLEN REAMS]

im down to wheel sunday if i dont break saturday.... i ran woodpeckers before thats it for out there..
-Glen

[Dan Sherman]

I open for Sunday......:D

[Washington_XJ]

Sunday works for me, John I doubt you'll be able to get very far into WP or any other very challenging trails being open and 1.5 RE. Your 35's will get you further than my 31's however...

So whats the game plan so I know what to do if you guys decided to run a 3.5+ ?

[xjstocker]

xan, his 1.5 is on top of his soa conversion. he'll do wp just fine. if i can find a ride ill join this one.

[John92YJ]

I will most likely have an open seat if you want to ride, and I can give you your batteries back if you still want them.

[GLEN REAMS]

ive got an open seat too but depending on if i get my tax return by this weekend ill be there

[GLEN REAMS]

Sunday works for meya you should show up im going to take it easy on Saturday so i can head out there and finally wheel some FJ sunday

[Washington_XJ]

ooooh Ok, I'll shut up now.

xan, his 1.5 is on top of his soa conversion. he'll do wp just fine. if i can find a ride ill join this one.

[PaintersAtv]

Just did some trails last weekend at FJ, looking to go again what time? Where is everybody meeting?

[Tom Jacobson]

I might be game. Will run anything, but might have wife and 3.5 yr old along, so medium difficulty and length trails might be best.

Meeting time/place???

Tom

[xjstocker]

ooooh Ok, I'll shut up now.

no sweat. he's fun to wheel with.

[GLEN REAMS]

figure out what trails are going to be ran yet?

[John92YJ]

I'm thinking Elvis or woodpecker, 9 or 10 am

[GLEN REAMS]

ill be there...meeting at the flag pole??

[John92YJ]

Is that the spot,
i know its out on the 60 but that's about it. maybe some one can meet my at a gas station or something?

[GLEN REAMS]

ive only been there once.... so thats the only spot i know

[xjstocker]

john ill call u later this week might need that ride. but im shooting to have my truck done. ill meet u somewhere along the route to guide u there

[John92YJ]

john ill call u later this week might need that ride. but im shooting to have my truck done. ill meet u somewhere along the route to guide u there

sweet, do you still have my #

[John92YJ]

who is going on the run, head count

[Digger]

Room for another XJ on this run? I will also need some directions. Been to Martinez and Box. Flagpole off 60, or 79?

[John92YJ]

your more than welcome to join, I think we have 5 or 6 going but not sure yet

[xjstocker]

yea still got it. hopefully ill have the toy there. ill call fri and let u know

[GLEN REAMS]

ill be there so that 2 xj's?? and digger i dont know the 79 way just the 60 way

[geepmetrailride]

I would like to get in on this one will need some good derections coming from Marana dont know were the flage pole is.

[xjstocker]

we usually meet at the shell station at gold canyon. then caravan together to FJ. the flag pole is bout 5.5 miles south of the 60-79 interchange.

[ROKCRLR]

Where and when are you guys meeting?

[GLEN REAMS]

I would like to get in on this one will need some good derections coming from Marana dont know were the flage pole is.

been in az all my live and never herd of marana.... go to map quest and put in your adress and then for your landing directions put in us 60 & florence junction

[RockSolidTroope]

Flag pole is in the vicinity of here:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=florence+az&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=13&ll=33.166439,-111.324463&spn=0.063657,0.127544&om=1


Its the Arizona Guard Reserves flag pole on the east side of SR 79. You can kinda see if from the road.

[geepmetrailride]

So I yhink I can find the flage pole need to know a time about?

[John92YJ]

The shell sounds good to me, Time ummm 8 or 9am or is that to early, some have a long drive so we could push it a little. let me know what you guys think

[ROKCRLR]

I can be at that Shell whenever. The time doesn't really matter to me. Just wanna know when I need to be there. Was there a decision on what trails?

Hey Geepme, I've got GPS coordinates for that flagpole if you want them.

[John92YJ]

I think we lost a lot of people to a run on sat to fj so let me know if this is still on or not?

[GLEN REAMS]

i plan on running both...so saturday is going to be wp and ajax??

[xjstocker]

who wants what and in what range?

[Digger]

The flag pole is off Cotton Lane, right? Cotton Lane is about 5 miles down 79 from 60. Anyone from this group run, ever do the Martinez Canyon or Box Canyon? They are in the same vicinity. I've been there a few times, nice, a lot of history from the mining days. Still some small buildings here and there. I've got some pictures I took of the Mine and stone house 12 years ago. I'll join up with the group at the Shell gas station you mentioned ...by Gold Canyon right? I'll be driving my white 98 XJ. high lift jack on front bumper, swing away spare tire rack on back.

[Digger]

8 is good time for me, trail...2.5 - 3.5, is cool. The sideways, cliff hanging trails are the ones that make me break a sweat. Need an x o-skeleton or a couple roll bars before I do many more of those. :eek:

[xjstocker]

ive been through box more times than i care to admit. lets get a head count and some info on the rigs going to attend. we might have more fun running elvis and martinez canyon. i dont want to get this group over its head. if we do do box or elvis price road is the entrance. cottonwood canyon flag pole would not make a good meeting spot. for this the shell would work better. post up and we'll go from there

[GLEN REAMS]

im open open on 33's not afraid of body damage and no rear d35 so no worries of snapping a axle ill pretty much bang threw anything i can not looking to go out on a walk in the park trail either...

[geepmetrailride]

3'' lift locked 33'' what time were

[Miles2go1979]

I'd be in for Sunday, I need to get out. I'm all stock though.

[GLEN REAMS]

who wants what and in what range?
3.5

[xjstocker]

all those coming from central mesa west dont want to take the 60 its going to be closed stapley to power. id suggest those coming from phx and scottsdale take northern 202 to power then south to the 60. chanler gilbert people take southern 202 to 60. also lets not forget that country thunder is this weekend so entry and exit on price will be flubed up. im good for some 3.5s i want to get back to elvis and would like to make it to martinez canyon(many plans to go there never made it yet)there is alway running the UW and LA if you dont want to fight the traffic.

[Washington_XJ]

We went to MC this last weekend. It was a blast but I stopped my rig at the cabins. Come to think of it Im not sure why, the canyon doesnt get bad until the very end by the mine (last saturday a jeep broke its control arm connector in the rear and was waiting for a welder, anyone on CB's that day would've heard all about it)

Anyway, whens this run happening, are you guys goin SAT and SUN or just SUN? I'm up for MC like I said and if I get stuck I could hop a ride with Glen. Elvis I heard is out of my league however...

[xjstocker]

the only part of elvis you will have issue with is the squeeze spot. all other obsticals have a bypass. lets get a roll call and a prefrence on upper FJ or Lower FJ

[John92YJ]

I want to check out Elvis and what ever else we have time for and we should all meet up at the shell at 9am on sun. I don't know where the shell is so let me know

[xjstocker]

if you do the 60 bypass down power ill meet you at university and we will head out.

[ROKCRLR]

So, 9am at the Shell in Gold Canyon? If so, I'll probably make it.

[GLEN REAMS]

I want to check out Elvis and what ever else we have time for and we should all meet up at the shell at 9am on sun. I don't know where the shell is so let me know

john take the 60 east until its not a freeway anymore then a few miles down there will be a stop light there will be the shell station and hang a left into there

[Digger]

Good info and reminder on the Thunder traffic, thanks XJStocker. Does everyone think if we start earlier we might miss some of that traffic? I've never dealt with the Country Thunder traffic. I would hope they are all parked at the concert. I'm coming from Phx. Indian School and 44th st. I know the flag pole spot and should be able to find Shell station with out a problem. If anyone my way wants to follow me let me know. I've run into the construction that has 60 shut down the past few months and the surface streets to get around it have been real quick. The rock garden before the cabin at Martinez has a on going record of breaking jeeps, Witnessed a few rescues, I don't know if I have the skill to try it yet. I'll take pictures of you guys rockin the garden if we go there.

[Digger]

CB channel 4 ?
Sunday
I'm still fairly new with the 3.5 trails. I did the Sunflower Loop with the club a month ago without problems. I know what Martinez and Box are, can anyone give me a comparison for the other trails we are considering compared to Sunflower?

[lancetkenyon]

To the cabin, it is a moderate trail. AFTER the cabin Mart Canyon is a different story. Elvis is easier than M Canyon, although I have personally seen a LOT of carnage on Elvis, which is weird cause it is not that hard. My avatar is on Elvis, but it is an optional line. Elvis is more difficult than Sunflower, but there are a lot of bypasses for the gnarlier stuff. Only 1 or 2 spots that have no bypasses, but I have seen a stock Rubi run the trail. Elvis is a GREAT trail to push your Jeep a little, challenging without being overwhelming for a newer driver. You should run it, it is a blast.

[GLEN REAMS]

CB channel 4 ?
Sunday
I'm still fairly new with the 3.5 trails. I did the Sunflower Loop with the club a month ago without problems. I know what Martinez and Box are, can anyone give me a comparison for the other trails we are considering compared to Sunflower?

http://virtualjeepclub.com/forumdisplay.php?f=75

[John92YJ]

lance you coming with, or are you going on sat?

[John92YJ]

I wish i had a CB, maybe some day . Anybody have an extra one they want to get rid of?

[lancetkenyon]

lance you coming with, or are you going on sat?

Going on Sat. MAYBE wheeling WT on Sun.

[xjstocker]

hey lance post up on CT traffic please. and if they are going to let us lowly wheelers in. hey can anyone pm me how to circumvent the CT thing through the river bottom? thanks

[Miles2go1979]

3.0 ish for me

I didn't have to many issues with sunflower, scraped bottom a couple times but thats what skid plates are for. Thats what i get for running stock i guess. I'm looking to get a lift later this month.

[Digger]

CB radio's are not very expensive. And I have come across a few at yard sales in the past that worked good. Sorry, I have allready sold them. Check out some yard sales in your area. Or maybe a pawn shop.

[Digger]

When I open your map, it shows Cotton Lane Rd. Is this the flag pole (on cotton lane) we will meet at? I ask this because if I scroll down a couple miles, there is another area I know of flag poles on this map.

[Digger]

BTW, FYI I have had exploring AZ hobby for 15 years and have a room dedicated to topo maps and books or literature at my house. If anyone desires to use my collection to look for area's for outback fun, let me know.
I like being out there, so I have many hobbies like gold panning, metal detecting, rock hound, ghost towns, looking for lost treasures from stories of the old west. Thinking about getting a group together to go exploring, wheelin and camping if anyone is interested. Maybe next month?

[ROKCRLR]

I didn't realize that Country Thunder was ON price road.:eek: :eek:

I'm not sure that I want to deal with all that traffic....

[Digger]

My thoughts exactly on the traffic, but does anyone know when it ends? Maybe we will not see traffic, at least not till the country thunder thing ends. I'm thinking Sunday evening it's over ????

[Digger]

I looked up the event, and they have a map. We would have to drive through where the event is happening, I don't know if that's possible, it might be closed to public for special event. They rent land from the owner of box canyon ranch for the event, it looks like. Anyone have a back up plan? How about Walnut canyon? still hit some traffic though.

[xjstocker]

the web site says the 12th through 15th. if every one has a STL permit we could go in through the 60 side of FJ but the rumor is that it is more heavily patrolled. i was hoping to figure out how to circumvent the traffic for CT the run today should have a better idea how to avoid the traffic

[xjstocker]

the site says first show is at noon so an early start should get us out of traffic. BTW the eastbound onramp for the 60 is closed. so us east siders have to get on at ellsworth. should be a great day tomorrow. lets shoot for a quick run through elvis then decide on running martinez or running something on the northside of the area.

[ROKCRLR]

If it doesn't start until noon we should be thru there before it get's too bad. Are we meeting at the Shell station in Gold Canyon? At 9?

[Digger]

I don't have permit, wonder how late forest or BLM building on Mcdowel is open today? think I'll head there now.

[Miles2go1979]

the site says first show is at noon so an early start should get us out of traffic. BTW the eastbound onramp for the 60 is closed. so us east siders have to get on at ellsworth. should be a great day tomorrow. lets shoot for a quick run through elvis then decide on running martinez or running something on the northside of the area.

Which onramp? 202 to 60? I noticed last night when we were coming home that the east bound 60 was empty when we got on it from power but we were able to take the 202 south.

[Wildcat455]

Can anyone here tell me how the trail "Elvis" was named??

It's kind of a sad story... :(

[xjstocker]

ive read the basic post about jeeper dog being killed on this trail. i dont know more than that. i came from 202 and got off at power it was closed and freeway was down to one lane. they were doing rubberized asphault

[xjstocker]

hey wildcat is that LT on your avatar?

[rockr]

Can anyone here tell me how the trail "Elvis" was named??

It's kind of a sad story... :(

chris lewis who lives in florence named it the day he "discovered" it and which day his or a buddie's dog died that day and the dog's name was ELVIS:(

[rockr]

I looked up the event, and they have a map. We would have to drive through where the event is happening, I don't know if that's possible, it might be closed to public for special event. They rent land from the owner of box canyon ranch for the event, it looks like. Anyone have a back up plan? How about Walnut canyon? still hit some traffic though.

yes, you can sucessfully drive on price rd, past the country thunder event tents etc but you know there will be added traffic. there is always a bunch of cones and signs and cops right at the turn-off to price rd. price rd leads to other ranches/residences which are past country thunder so they won't close the road to just the event participants. as mentioned..............you will be out there early in the am sunday so you will beat the crowd for the sunday night concerts. then maybe consider leaving the area at the end of day through cottonwood.

[Digger]

Will a SLT permit be needed for tomorrows run?? I don't have one.

How and where can I get one?:confused:

[GLEN REAMS]

the web site says the 12th through 15th. if every one has a STL permit we could go in through the 60 side of FJ but the rumor is that it is more heavily patrolled. i was hoping to figure out how to circumvent the traffic for CT the run today should have a better idea how to avoid the traffic

just got back from fj we meet up at the flag pole... left the house at 730 and left fj at about 530 didnt come across any traffic

[geepmetrailride]

If anyone can figure out what time to meet at the flage pole?????????????

[ROKCRLR]

If anyone can figure out what time to meet at the flage pole?????????????

Good luck with that. I've asked twice now.:rolleyes: :D

I don't think they're planning to go in at the flagpole. Since you're coming from Marana, you might be better off meeting at the Price Station Road entrance in Florence.

[John92YJ]

Are we going to meet at 8 or 9 at the flag pole? or should we meet somewhere else so we can get threw the mess in style. 8:30 sounds good to me.

[GLEN REAMS]

i plan on attending this run tomorrow if we decide on what time too meet and where...im bringing my dad along to ride shotty with me cuz he wants to see what all the fuss is about so ya my pass seat is takin

[ROKCRLR]

Will a SLT permit be needed for tomorrows run?? I don't have one.

How and where can I get one?:confused:

I think you do need one, but I'm not 100% positive. I bet someone else can say for sure. The soonest you could get one would be Monday morning at the state trust land office in Phoenix.

[John92YJ]

well that sucks, I don't have one, am i going to get a tickit or what?

[ROKCRLR]

well that sucks, I don't have one, am i going to get a tickit or what?

I don't know. Like I said I'm not 100% sure if you need one or not. I've never been asked for mine when I'm out there. But that doesn't mean you don't need one. Hopefully someone who knows for sure can post up and let us know.

[Washington_XJ]

Pretty doubtful. I've been out numerous times and have only seen one truck with lights on top and it was game and fish watching jeeps do the hill climb.

On another note I cant make it tomorrow and didnt make it out today so looks like no offroading for me this weekend :(

well that sucks, I don't have one, am i going to get a tickit or what?

[GLEN REAMS]

Pretty doubtful. I've been out numerous times and have only seen one truck with lights on top and it was game and fish watching jeeps do the hill climb.

On another note I cant make it tomorrow and didnt make it out today so looks like no offroading for me this weekend :(

well its you bailing out this time not me... remember that :D

[Digger]

GEEEZZZ, what to do.. maybe highway shut down, maybe country traffic, maybe need permit i don't have....maybe next weekend is better for me. Have to get a permit this week. never thought I'd have to get permission to go play in the desert!! yep, I do agree.... this sock's

[John92YJ]

so is this not happening? I still want to go but if no one is coming I guess I will run it solo.

[John92YJ]

time is running out

[GLEN REAMS]

im ready to go just need to know who is leading and what trails and a meet time....not looking to go out there not knowing where we are spending the day lost

[xjstocker]

you dont need a permit unless we travel between the flagpoles on cottonwood canyon. if we plan to enter and exit through price road then we are golden without the permits so lets plan on meeting at the shell at 7:30 roll out at 7:50-8:00 meet up with those who want to meet at the bar just south of price at 8:30 latest air down and hit the trail bout 8:45 run elvis then go to martinez cabin and if anyone wants to run the canyon to the mine. i just thrashed on my truck all day to get the head replaced im going wheeling. give me a roll call please.

[John92YJ]

that sound good to me

[ROKCRLR]

you dont need a permit unless we travel between the flagpoles on cottonwood canyon. if we plan to enter and exit through price road then we are golden without the permits so lets plan on meeting at the shell at 7:30 roll out at 7:50-8:00 meet up with those who want to meet at the bar just south of price at 8:30 latest air down and hit the trail bout 8:45 run elvis then go to martinez cabin and if anyone wants to run the canyon to the mine. i just thrashed on my truck all day to get the head replaced im going wheeling. give me a roll call please.

Cool, I'll see you at the Shell at 7:30.

[Miles2go1979]

you dont need a permit unless we travel between the flagpoles on cottonwood canyon. if we plan to enter and exit through price road then we are golden without the permits so lets plan on meeting at the shell at 7:30 roll out at 7:50-8:00 meet up with those who want to meet at the bar just south of price at 8:30 latest air down and hit the trail bout 8:45 run elvis then go to martinez cabin and if anyone wants to run the canyon to the mine. i just thrashed on my truck all day to get the head replaced im going wheeling. give me a roll call please.

730 at the shell... I'll be there!

[geepmetrailride]

If someone can tell me were the bar or prince rd is it would be alot of help

[ROKCRLR]

If someone can tell me were the bar or prince rd is it would be alot of help

I'm not sure where the bar is, but I know we'll be going in at Price Road and the 79 in Florence.

[geepmetrailride]

found prince rd will be there

[John92YJ]

meet us at the shell at 730

[geepmetrailride]

that would be great if I new were the shell was

[ROKCRLR]

Since you're coming from Marana, it makes way more sense to meet us at Price road and Highway 79. The Shell they're talking about is in Gold Canyon, which is well north of Florence.

[GLEN REAMS]

best thing i didnt go today guys...went out driving the jeep today and my hermonic balncer fell off glad it wasnt out on the trail

[Digger]

Well I missed out on this one. I went to bed after my last post, didn't see the one that said we didn't need permit till almost 2:00 on Sunday. How was the run? Any Country Thunder Traffic? Hope no one broke thier jeep :)

[xjstocker]

no trafic no jeep carnage on the trail. john met me at the corner by my house spewing clutch fluid. droped his rig at my place and proceded to head out and destroy the rear driveshaft on my toyota. left it on the first obsical on elvis. rode with kevin the rest of the day. picked it up and drove home. all good. im sure there will be pict. was a blast thanks all for a great time
Steve

[GLEN REAMS]

ya i was glad i didnt go or else i would have been stuck out there too

[ROKCRLR]

I had a great time out there today. Other than customizing Steve's driveshaft and Miles' hardtop it was smooth sailing.:eek: I tried a couple of harder lines today and boy did my Jeep make me look good. :D It was cool to meet some new faces and watch Steve abuse his poor Toyota again.

Here are some pics:
Here I am on the first obstacle
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b7/skiinaz/Me-on-Elvis01.jpg
Steve on the first obstacle right before he bent his driveshaft
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b7/skiinaz/Steve-on-Elvis.jpg
His custom driveshaft
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b7/skiinaz/Steves-custom-driveshaft.jpg
Geepme exiting the tight spot just before the last waterfall on Elvis
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b7/skiinaz/Geepme-on-Elvis-01.jpg
Me coming down the optional line just before the last waterfall
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b7/skiinaz/Me-on-Elvis-02.jpg
Geepme at the play area by the windmill
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b7/skiinaz/Geepme-on-Elvis-02.jpg

I'm looking forward to wheeling with you guys again.

[John92YJ]

I had a good time even without my Jeep. When I got back I had to have the wife's lancer tow my home and that was the worst part of my day.

[John92YJ]

Here I am on the first obstacle
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b7/skiinaz/Me-on-Elvis01.jpg

This picture of the first obstacle doesn't do justice!

[Miles2go1979]

It was a great day for jeeps... well except for Johns which didn't make it to the trail

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l253/Miles2go1979/Elvis4.jpg


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l253/Miles2go1979/Elvis7.jpg


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l253/Miles2go1979/Elvis9.jpg

I had to take the easy routes:
At the first obstacle
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l253/Miles2go1979/Elvis16.jpg


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l253/Miles2go1979/Elvis18.jpg

I tried to make the squeeze, but ended up going around the easy way
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l253/Miles2go1979/Elvis22.jpg

Again, my stocker couldn't even attempt it
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l253/Miles2go1979/Elvis29.jpg

As always I had a great time and learned alot. Thanks for all the help and advice. Can't wait to get out again soon.

[ROKCRLR]

It was a great day for jeeps... well except for Johns which didn't make it to the trail

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l253/Miles2go1979/Elvis4.jpg


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l253/Miles2go1979/Elvis7.jpg


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l253/Miles2go1979/Elvis9.jpg

I had to take the easy routes:
At the first obstacle
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l253/Miles2go1979/Elvis16.jpg


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l253/Miles2go1979/Elvis18.jpg

I tried to make the squeeze, but ended up going around the easy way
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l253/Miles2go1979/Elvis22.jpg

Again, my stocker couldn't even attempt it
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l253/Miles2go1979/Elvis29.jpg

As always I had a great time and learned alot. Thanks for all the help and advice. Can't wait to get out again soon.

Hey Miles, all I'm seeing is boxes with red x's in them.:confused:

[Miles2go1979]

I think its working now, I tried making a subfolder in my photo bucket but that ruined the links

[Miles2go1979]

BTW, Kevin, what road did you take back? I turned left to go to hunt and you went right, then all of a sudden I was behind you on higley?

[ROKCRLR]

BTW, Kevin, what road did you take back? I turned left to go to hunt and you went right, then all of a sudden I was behind you on higley?

I went up the 79 to Arizona Farms and took it across to Hunt Highway.

[xjstocker]

you all love showing the toyota carnage dont you

[Allen]

By request!!

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l253/Miles2go1979/Elvis9.jpg

That bent part looks like a driveshaft!!