Language on the board....

[Joe West]

Hi Gang,

Remembering that this board is intended to be a family board... I'm noticing that more and more folks are using improper language... and I myself am guilty of it (reference my recent post on the server going down).

I'd appreciate it if those of you who, like me, are guilty of using inappropriate language on the board would simply cease to do so... this not only means the actual word, but all disguised versions of the word (in other words Biatch or Bish for the word B i t c h or using spacing (like I just did)... well... you get the point.

The truth is... inappropriate language doesn't add value to any communication and while I freely use inappropriate language in my private life where I pretty much control who hears/sees it... it simply isn't appropriate on a public forum where we (as a group) are trying to maintain a family atmosphere (to the greatest extent possible).

Those of you who know me, know that this request isn't driven by religion, or some power kick that I happen to be on... but simply; it is driven by my desire to have our younger members (and those members with children) feel free to access the board without having to wade through garbage. There is enough garbage on the internet already and those who want to find it know how to access it.... I don't see the need for anyone (including myself) to express inappropriate language here.

Again... I'm as guilty of this as anyone... so this request is aimed as much at me as it is anyone else who may be reading this.

Let's clean it up now... If you accidentally slip (read; you somehow can't control what your fingers are typing)... you'll get a warning... keep accidentally slipping and you'll need to find another place to hang out.

Thanks for understanding gang... I know that those of you with younger children will "get it" and I hope the rest of you will see the value in keeping things as family oriented as possible.


Infractions will be handled:

1. A warning
2. A week's suspension from the board
3. A month's suspension from the board
4. Permanent Ban from the board

If you think I am being unreasonable... please shoot me a PM.


Thanks,


Joe

[ob1jeeper]

I'm no prude, but wanted to say THANX...:) ;) MUCH appreciated...:p ;)

[AZLugz]

x2

[ThumpAZ]

Wow... can't even show our limited mental capacity for vernacular and vocabulary anymore :shakiing_head:
Just kidding, I completely understand, and my daughter can barely pick out shapes, much less read the words on the page.

Does this apply to use of now out of date, and then-considered, improper speech? I'm tlaking about back in the 50's and earlier... not the 80's (since much hasn't changed then... except we, luckily, got rid of things like 'gag me with a spoon')
:D

[xFallen]

I believe colorful language has its place, even amongst families. It is kind of like using a condom. It is absolutley assenine to think young adults will not have sex. I'd rather educate young adults about safe sex than to pretend it will never happen and leave the poor bastids ignorant, no matter how much I might prefer they wait until they are better erquipped to deal with the emotional and practical consequences that goes along with the responsibility of being sexually active.

The philosphy applies also to language. Bish makes me giggle. So does fuggit and other juvenile variations such as bastids or bastages. My kids heard and possibly said them all probably well before they were 5 years of age. They now speak with respect when appropriate, and possibly swear when appropriate, because they know the difference. I rarely have heard even the most modest of cusses from them because they know better and they won't fall apart if someone else cusses for whatever reason, including as an intimidation tactic.

The rest I can do without inculding the more obvious attempts to disguise the, well, obvious. I would prefer more cordial speech, in general, but also am no prude.

How about a moratorium on incorrect spelling and abhorent grammar? Clearly typographical errors will occur, and those are obvious when they do, but it is equally as obvious when someone is simply a moron by the dictionary definition of the word or too lazy to extend the common courtesy of using English in an English language forum. Either case is liekely inappropriate for a family forum. Morons (by the correct dictionary definition) shouldn't be using a family forum either, and people who will not make an effort to use English as it was intended certainly are not much of a positive influence on our children.

I find mis0use of the language an assault on this little segment of society and far more an offensive than periodic use of colorful speech. It is also of far more serious social consequence. Interestingly it is also one of the first things people defend. Equally as interesting, those who complain are some of the same people who bemoan the selling out of America to competing foreign entities who may be better educated, but I digress.

You did ask, after all. You can move this to the other thread I see, or just remove it altogether as you like. Either way, bish is funny.


Barry

[OlneyJeeps]

count me as a "pro" policy vote
As a "Battle Star Glactaca" viewer, I am astounded by their use of the word "frack" when we all know what they are referring to.... call me a prude but IMHO TOTALLY inappropriate

just my .02

[Antman]

count me as a "pro" policy vote
As a "Battle Star Glactaca" viewer, I am astounded by their use of the word "frack" when we all know what they are referring to.... call me a prude but IMHO TOTALLY inappropriate

just my .02

Wow! for once,:p I agree with Steve. We all know what word they mean.;)
I have a friend that does that and says the word Frick in front on everyone.
I have asked him if he would use that in church, and he looked surprised,
and then said no. It's funny because that's the closest he ever comes to
swearing.:eek:

[rockwerks]

works for me........my favorite from battle star........Feldergarb!

[OlneyJeeps]

works for me........my favorite from battle star........Feldergarb!

Have they used that on the new series? (seem to think it was "feldercarb".... )

[Hunter]

Ya know, one of those things I have never really thought about, but now that my son is starting to read, quite well sometimes..I think its a good to keep the board in a "PG" direction.

[fatbob309]

I don't care one way or the other. Would calling someone a team killing f-tard fall under the "oops I let my finger slip" or the "play nice or be gone" rule? I just want to be clear? :confused: :D

Im off to have some fun witha abunch of X-Earth people about a light bar.

[rockwerks]

Have they used that on the new series? (seem to think it was "feldercarb".... )

urban dictionary:

1. feldergarb


Means nonsense, garbage, or rubbish. a bunch crap, Used in the rural southern US and Kentucky.

That's a load of feldergarb!

[Sedona Jeep School]

Well, there went half of my vocabulary...:D J/K! Thanks, Joe. It is easy to get too comfortable and try to slip in a little color, so if nothing else, it is good to remind everyone once in a while. I support the policy!

[SHNIPE]

I don't care one way or the other. Would calling someone a team killing f-tard fall under the "oops I let my finger slip" or the "play nice or be gone" rule? I just want to be clear? :confused: :D

Im off to have some fun witha abunch of X-Earth people about a light bar.

Depends on the game and whether or not you were on my side :D

[joedokes28]

I find mis0use of the language an assault on this little segment of society and far more an offensive than periodic use of colorful speech. It is also of far more serious social consequence. Interestingly it is also one of the first things people defend. Equally as interesting, those who complain are some of the same people who bemoan the selling out of America to competing foreign entities who may be better educated, but I digress.

I was not able to come up with something better so I quoted Barry. Reading posts with incorrect/incomplete grammar offends me far greater than personal insults or swear words ever could.

[DesertX04]

While colorful language may help in certain circumstances, it's rarely needed. And if I can't say it in front of children, then why should it be said it front of adults? I think this action will help the board.

I really wish we could do something about the grammar. I'll find myself leaving threads when it gets to be too much. I feel by replying to it, I'm condoning it.

[Wind_Danzer]

Like I said in the last thread on this, you have to be 13 to get an account here.

If you are over 13 and haven't heard a bad word before, I'm not sure what rock y'all crawled out from under but it might be "safer" there.

If someone on here is under 13, it should be the responsibility of the party letting them on the of the site itself.

[AZLugz]

I don't see it as a lack of hearing it before but that it is heard too much everywhere and gets tiring. We are not prudes either, I spent 20 years in the military and have done a lot of things that at this point will stay skeletons, my kids used to hear a lot of the words and that was just from me but I made a major change in my life 7 years ago and it is a good change and my wife, kids and I are much happier with things now. So, it is not that we don't know the words and not that we have not used them, just that this is listed as a family site and seemed good when I joined but lately seems to have more of it and like most have said, it isn't necessary. I am just asking that it be a little more friendly to those who chose not to go there any longer. Also, using and * in place of the letters really does not make it different.

If the general decision of the board is to go the way of the language, that is fine, but as long as the rules are there against it, is it really that hard.


This is just my opinion and everyone has one

[shannonmac]

hmmmm...if we are gonna ban cuss words, can we ban scripture in the tags as well...
i paid my dues at catholic school for 12 years :rolleyes:

[Wind_Danzer]

hmmmm...if we are gonna ban cuss words, can we ban scripture in the tags as well...
i paid my dues at catholic school for 12 years :rolleyes:

The motion is seconded!!!! :D :D :D

[Antman]

hmmmm...if we are gonna ban cuss words, can we ban scripture in the tags as well...
i paid my dues at catholic school for 12 years :rolleyes:

I feel your pain Shannon. :)

[YJunk]

hmmmm...if we are gonna ban cuss words, can we ban scripture in the tags as well...
i paid my dues at catholic school for 12 years :rolleyes:

Me too... and to be honest I've had enough of the hypocrisy of the modern day church goer... I'd rather put myself out there as I really am and let you decide for yourself then hide behind a religoeus curtain living a lie...

Curse words aren't the only offensive behavior in my eyes... of course that is based on my experience and is narrow... but if we are going to work to satisfy decency on one hand, we should also try to satisfy the other.

For the Dorothy who was komplainin about da grammer... palease... you might as well take that complaint right out of the box... I'm sorry I ain't smart and all fancy... but ask me if I give a flying truck...

Wich brings up another point... is it the words that are offensive or the intention? Does anyone here get what I mean when I say I don't give a flying truck... anyone. Does anyone find the words offensive... do-gooders? Any one? You all got my intention yes? Go truck yourself... No seriously shove it up your truckin path...

We're so truckin stupid that we focus on the fruit and not the root... so by all means; ban words... I'll still find a way to truck up your silly sense of decency... And then you'll be foreced to boot me for saying something like; "Your mama is the best truck I ever had"... Idiots.

Yeah I'm in a truckin bad mood... truck off...

[xFallen]

Me too... and to be honest I've had enough of the hypocrisy of the modern day church goer... I'd rather put myself out there as I really am and let you decide for yourself then hide behind a religoeus curtain living a lie...

Curse words aren't the only offensive behavior in my eyes... of course that is based on my experience and is narrow... but if we are going to work to satisfy decency on one hand, we should also try to satisfy the other.

For the Dorothy who was komplainin about da grammer... palease... you might as well take that complaint right out of the box... I'm sorry I ain't smart and all fancy... but ask me if I give a flying truck...

Wich brings up another point... is it the words that are offensive or the intention? Does anyone here get what I mean when I say I don't give a flying truck... anyone. Does anyone find the words offensive... do-gooders? Any one? You all got my intention yes? Go truck yourself... No seriously shove it up your truckin path...

We're so truckin stupid that we focus on the fruit and not the root... so by all means; ban words... I'll still find a way to truck up your silly sense of decency... And then you'll be foreced to boot me for saying something like; "Your mama is the best truck I ever had"... Idiots.

Yeah I'm in a truckin bad mood... truck off...

There's no imposing values, clearly. You may not care, but many people do. Or, it may not be important to you, but that doesn't mean it isn't important by some other standard.

One of the very few things that distinguishes the rest of us from lower primates is language. One the the tenets of communication is reasonably consistent use of a common language. Claiming ignorance or stupidity is a poor excuse. Frankly, it is laziness in most cases. Seriously, if people are really that stupid they shouldn't be driving or owning weapons. Maybe a few other things should be revoked as well.

Let me know where to send your bananas. Gronk.

[YJunk]

There's no imposing values, clearly. You may not care, but many people do. Or, it may not be important to you, but that doesn't mean it isn't important by some other standard.

One of the very few things that distinguishes the rest of us from lower
primates is language. One the the tenets of communication is reasonably consistent use of a common language. Claiming ignorance or stupidity is a poor excuse. Maybe a few other things should be revoked as well.

Let me know where to send your bananas. Gronk.

Thats Cronk... and you're thinking of the other bald guy... You're also putting on an air right now, because I've heard you talk on the trail... and its much different then the way your speaking right now... enunciating clearly each and every well thought out point... You've got a potty mouth too and are just showin off... Becuase it's not important to me doesn't mean it is important to anyone else...

Feel free to store my banana in your rump tube for future use...

[SHNIPE]

Me too... and to be honest I've had enough of the hypocrisy of the modern day church goer... I'd rather put myself out there as I really am and let you decide for yourself then hide behind a religoeus curtain living a lie...

Curse words aren't the only offensive behavior in my eyes... of course that is based on my experience and is narrow... but if we are going to work to satisfy decency on one hand, we should also try to satisfy the other.

For the Dorothy who was komplainin about da grammer... palease... you might as well take that complaint right out of the box... I'm sorry I ain't smart and all fancy... but ask me if I give a flying truck...

Wich brings up another point... is it the words that are offensive or the intention? Does anyone here get what I mean when I say I don't give a flying truck... anyone. Does anyone find the words offensive... do-gooders? Any one? You all got my intention yes? Go truck yourself... No seriously shove it up your truckin path...

We're so truckin stupid that we focus on the fruit and not the root... so by all means; ban words... I'll still find a way to truck up your silly sense of decency... And then you'll be foreced to boot me for saying something like; "Your mama is the best truck I ever had"... Idiots.

Yeah I'm in a truckin bad mood... truck off...

LOL youre truckin killin me d0od!! :D

[rockwerks]

phugue et IM done LOL

[Wind_Danzer]

phugue et IM done LOL

...and this is being posted by one of the big complainers of the use of "offensive" language. :rolleyes:

It's easy to sound out what you've written there bud, why go and do it if you think it is so wrong?

What is good for the goose is now good for the gander so maybe, just maybe, you should be one of the first to receive the slap on the hand.

Joking or not... it's not allowed now.

Hypocrite.

[xFallen]

Thats Cronk... and you're thinking of the other bald guy... You're also putting on an air right now, because I've heard you talk on the trail... and its much different then the way your speaking right now... enunciating clearly each and every well thought out point... You've got a potty mouth too and are just showin off... Becuase it's not important to me doesn't mean it is important to anyone else...

Feel free to store my banana in your rump tube for future use...

I like gronk. It's how I spell it. You know, it doesn't matter and all. It wasn't directed at or to any one person. Just felt like typing it.

That's a kinky way for you to eat bananas. Not my thing but have at it.

I have never had a potty in my mouth. Not once. I am quite able to enunciate verbally as well. I just don't always when I am out in the boonies with a bunch of degenerates, and you know who I am talking about, wink, wink, wink, Dennis, John, wink.
Or something.

[OlneyJeeps]

Ich denke, daß ihr keine Beschränkungen der Sprache sein sollte verwendet auf dem Brett.


Certaines personnes aiment s'associer aux tranches frites de pomme de terre.



Aplacan a mucha gente (de cierto país, que nombre no mención) entrar en este país y tan que ella no piense que ella necesita aprender otra lengua.


радостно для того чтобы быть далеко от их бывшей страны, они изучают настолько длиннее и трудно которое они говорит и говорит по буквам более лучше чем большой процент фактических американцов.

Realizzo questo tipo di vagante può essere considerato improprio, in modo da suppongo che (prima che offendi qualcuno) dovrei arrestarmi.

O Oh, este é justo demasiado divertimento. Eu encontro incredible que em muitos países europeus, as crianças falam línguas múltiplas pela 5a classe. Eu datei uma menina alemão que falasse nove fluently. Cada ano (em nosso alojamento em Alaska) eu encontro os estrangeiros que falam inglês e o múltiplo outras línguas.


[أكأنا الآن (قبل أن أنا أحصل [برمنتلي], سيتوقّف ] يحظر). :eek: !!!



Just for giggles (forget about actually translating ), anyone want to take a stab at identifying languages:D

[rockwerks]

...and this is being posted by one of the big complainers of the use of "offensive" language. :rolleyes:

It's easy to sound out what you've written there bud, why go and do it if you think it is so wrong?

What is good for the goose is now good for the gander so maybe, just maybe, you should be one of the first to receive the slap on the hand.

Joking or not... it's not allowed now.

Hypocrite.


Funny how you single me out.............LOL :D

[rockwerks]

Funny how you single me out.............LOL :D

and there is a difference between complaining and discussion. I really dont care either way, and yes the joke was in poor taste. kinda like 20 others in these 2 threads

Im done Have fun:D

[Antman]

Ich denke, daß ihr keine Beschränkungen der Sprache sein sollte verwendet auf dem Brett.


Certaines personnes aiment s'associer aux tranches frites de pomme de terre.



Aplacan a mucha gente (de cierto país, que nombre no mención) entrar en este país y tan que ella no piense que ella necesita aprender otra lengua.


радостно для того чтобы быть далеко от их бывшей страны, они изучают настолько длиннее и трудно которое они говорит и говорит по буквам более лучше чем большой процент фактических американцов.

Realizzo questo tipo di vagante può essere considerato improprio, in modo da suppongo che (prima che offendi qualcuno) dovrei arrestarmi.

O Oh, este é justo demasiado divertimento. Eu encontro incredible que em muitos países europeus, as crianças falam línguas múltiplas pela 5a classe. Eu datei uma menina alemão que falasse nove fluently. Cada ano (em nosso alojamento em Alaska) eu encontro os estrangeiros que falam inglês e o múltiplo outras línguas.


[أكأنا الآن (قبل أن أنا أحصل [برمنتلي], سيتوقّف ] يحظر). :eek: !!!



Just for giggles (forget about actually translating ), anyone want to take a stab at identifying languages:D

German, French, Portuguese, Russian, Itialian, Spanish. Arabic

[AZLugz]

Me too... and to be honest I've had enough of the hypocrisy of the modern day church goer... I'd rather put myself out there as I really am and let you decide for yourself then hide behind a religoeus curtain living a lie...

Well, I am sorry you feel you know anything about me, especially enough to make this assumption. I am not hiding behind anything and am not a hypocrit because I freely admit that I still use foul language at times, I am no wheres near perfect or good or whatever you want to consider it....I just have chosen to live my life aimed to a different standard than before, BUT, I still have a LONG way to go, that is my choice for me and should in no way affect you except that I would hope that in certian venues you will respect the rules of where you are, in here, it is the removal of foul language.

As for Church Goers and living a lie behind a curtian; Religion is a joke, but that is just my opinion. I believe in the Bible and work toward that, if you feel that is living a lie, well, then don't do it; what works for me does not work for everyone. I am not here to convert anyone, but I also am not going to hide who and what I am. I don't see how you can say that I am not putting myself out there as I really am, you have met me in a parking lot once for 45 seconds tops. Just becuse someone Believes and follows the Bible, does that make them a hypocritical freak living a lie?

As for the scripture in my sig, that again is my choice and is not there to offend anyone and if offends you, I am sorry.

Not sure why my spiritual choice is getting hammered on tho when this is about following a rule. I know the rule is not the most popular but it is still one of them.

[Scramblin_Jim]

Me too... and to be honest I've had enough of the hypocrisy of the modern day church goer... I'd rather put myself out there as I really am and let you decide for yourself then hide behind a religoeus curtain living a lie...
... Idiots.

Yeah I'm in a truckin bad mood... truck off...

Ya buddy, hypocrisy is everywhere. Its really a narrow point of view, shallow thinking, and centered on ones self. You really can't judge anyone on this board without spending time with them. A short post here is nothing more the posturing and venting. I hope to go wheel'n with each of you and find time to learn who you really are, but until then I'll just sit here and read what you say and formulate my narrow hypocritical point of view of who you are.

[OlneyJeeps]

German, French, Portuguese, Russian, Itialian, Spanish. Arabic


Wow!! give that man a kewpie doll!

bonus round: what's a kewpie doll?

[shannonmac]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kewpie_doll_(toy)
or onion heads...they look like onion heads
i think i had these random paintings of these dolls on my walls when i was a kid and thats what i used to call them... "the onion head people"



don't judge...i'm well aware that i am strange :D

[OlneyJeeps]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kewpie_doll_(toy)
or onion heads...they look like onion heads
i think i had these random paintings of these dolls on my walls when i was a kid and thats what i used to call them... "the onion head people"



don't judge...i'm well aware that i am strange :D

evidently, some "Effanbee":eek: (evidently they couldn't print his real name :D ) created the first hard plastic versions.

[YJunk]

Well, I am sorry you feel you know anything about me, especially enough to make this assumption. I am not hiding behind anything and am not a hypocrit because I freely admit that I still use foul language at times, I am no wheres near perfect or good or whatever you want to consider it....I just have chosen to live my life aimed to a different standard than before, BUT, I still have a LONG way to go, that is my choice for me and should in no way affect you except that I would hope that in certian venues you will respect the rules of where you are, in here, it is the removal of foul language.

As for Church Goers and living a lie behind a curtian; Religion is a joke, but that is just my opinion. I believe in the Bible and work toward that, if you feel that is living a lie, well, then don't do it; what works for me does not work for everyone. I am not here to convert anyone, but I also am not going to hide who and what I am. I don't see how you can say that I am not putting myself out there as I really am, you have met me in a parking lot once for 45 seconds tops. Just becuse someone Believes and follows the Bible, does that make them a hypocritical freak living a lie?

As for the scripture in my sig, that again is my choice and is not there to offend anyone and if offends you, I am sorry.

Not sure why my spiritual choice is getting hammered on tho when this is about following a rule. I know the rule is not the most popular but it is still one of them.

That assumption wasn't made about you... I don't know you... It's based on being immersed in the Church for over 30 years and seeing it for what it really is... A trucking lie.

Your choice is getting hammered because there are those of us here who find religeous quotations as offensive as bad language... I've spent a lifetime being "quoted" at by hundreds of Bible thumpers... but when the chips were down, there was no one around. Most of the Christians today are more than happy to tell you how much God loves you... and walk on their merry way while your suffering and really need help... And they're always the first to condem your actions when they themeselves take part...

You just admited you use foul language... how in the world can you come on this board and condem it... To me thats hypocrisy... To me that's a lie...

Truck Off... Please Forgive Me God... Truck Off... I'm Sorry Lord... Truck Off... I guess as long as I can ask for forgiveness and don't condone those actions I'm a good Christian... Does anyone see how self centered that is? I sin, I'm forgiven... blah blah... How does that help anyone around you?

God loves you... but I'm pretty busy... Keep the faith, things will be okay... Let your world fall to Sh!t and see how many poeple in your congregation actually show up to help... Not pat you on the back with a bandaid but really help for the long term...

Most Christians today care about little more than saving their own collective spiritual arses... few are truely motivated to carry the cross of another.

My life became livable when I stopped looking at the Church and the Bible for answers... Everything I need to know about life God has given me in the form of survival instict, common sense and a general caring for those around me. I don't need to strive to be better than the worthless sh!t head than I am... I need to help those around me... God sees me for who I truely am, why pretend that I'm different... Why lie... I'm trucked up... and all my years in the Church never changed who I was... it only made me feel badly about who I was... and in that shame I hid myself away and never allowed myself to help anyone around me, because I simply wasn't "good" enough... Now I don't fawkin care who I am or what I am... And that speaks to certain people and it opens the door...

God's love isn't recieved from the words of a man or woman... its delivered by the hand of a friend or even a stranger when your life is low... and I don't need to lable myself a Christian or quote versus to receive it or deliver it... On the contrary... the more "Me" time I spend searching for God's answers in MY life... the less time I'm able to deliver that hand... I'm not on a spiritual quest... I'm on a life quest.

Anyone who would judge me by my language and not my actions... is making my point. But honestly its what I've come to expect... that is the trucking world we live in... and in this country we can largely thank the "Church" for it...

Here's my .02... put the Bible down and stop searching for you salvation; if you've accepted Christ as your Savior your Job now is no longer about you... its about the people around you who DON'T have Him... and you can't share that message if your not willing to get Knee Deep in Sh!t Hole and help someone up... In those moments people will see you for who you really are and the message will be recieved.

If any of you have drawn conclusions about who I am from this board, let me be the first to say you're absolutely right... I'm everything you think I am... A loud obnoxious drunk, prone to fist fights, foul language, etc... but thats not all there is too me. I presonally would rather you know the bad and be suprised by the good than have it the other way around... I refuse to hide my true self any longer because it doesn't jive with what the church or christians in general think is acceptable or decent... I am what God has made me and what I've been molded into by the circumstances of my life... I'm not going to pretend to be something I'm not... That doesn't mean that I don't care about those around me... but what I do in my personal life to spread that message has nothing to do with you and I don't need the churches approval to be a tool of God...

[AZLugz]

Very interesting points!

I am sorry your "church" let you down in the time of your deep needs, that is why I despise religion, because most of what you said is EXACTLY right in most religions and in a lot of churches. I have been down and I have true friends that believe as I do that help me back up and I do the same for them, much as I would assume if one of , lets say, drinking buddies, got in trouble, I would assume, if he was a friend, you would help him. This is not christianity, it is friendship.
Those that throw christian sayings everywhere are exactly what you said they are, most are living a lie. Gods love is there for everyone, that is true, but that will not make your life easy and slamming down "christianeese" sayings to someone that is hurting will do nothing, you are right on that point too. I hate Bible thumpers as much as the next guy, yes I have scripture in my sig, it is what I believe, but I do not come in here shoving things at people. The language is against board rules and there are people here that do not like it and kids that don't need to hear it, that was the point. Yes I still use a few words when I am real upset, I am not perfect but a hypocrit, no, that would mean that I act as tho I do not do it and condem everyone else for it.

I had a whole lot else to say but I changed my mind, Just as people can not know you with out meeting you and should not assume they know what you are by the stereotypes based on some of the things you do, people also do not know me, I do not fit the stereotype that I have been put in here either, the fact that I choose to follow Christ and the Bible, does not make me a bible thumpin' christianeese slingin guy who is only interested in my salvation and bails on you when it gets hard. I am sorry that others have done that to you and I am sorry that there are so many false christians out there, but you have fakes in everything

[fatbob309]

Wow... I bet Joe didn't see this turn of events.

I do love the fact that is you are religious you are narrow minded and hypocritical. Don’t you know that Jeep owners chase small woodland creatures and ruin the outdoor experience for others??? All gays have aids. All black are criminals. All Mexicans are illegal. Same idea.

Just to hit all the good stuff… President Bush> all Dem.


:D

[Antman]

Wow... I bet Joe didn't see this turn of events.

I do love the fact that IF you are religious, you are narrow minded and hypocritical. Don’t you know that Jeep owners chase small woodland creatures and ruin the outdoor experience for others??? All gays have aids. All black are criminals. All Mexicans are illegal. Same idea.

Just to hit all the good stuff… President Bush> and Dem.


:D


Fixed it for you Bobby.:)

[rockwerks]

Very interesting points!

I am sorry your "church" let you down in the time of your deep needs, that is why I despise religion, because most of what you said is EXACTLY right in most religions and in a lot of churches. I have been down and I have true friends that believe as I do that help me back up and I do the same for them, much as I would assume if one of , lets say, drinking buddies, got in trouble, I would assume, if he was a friend, you would help him. This is not christianity, it is friendship.
Those that throw christian sayings everywhere are exactly what you said they are, most are living a lie. Gods love is there for everyone, that is true, but that will not make your life easy and slamming down "christianeese" sayings to someone that is hurting will do nothing, you are right on that point too. I hate Bible thumpers as much as the next guy, yes I have scripture in my sig, it is what I believe, but I do not come in here shoving things at people. The language is against board rules and there are people here that do not like it and kids that don't need to hear it, that was the point. Yes I still use a few words when I am real upset, I am not perfect but a hypocrit, no, that would mean that I act as tho I do not do it and condem everyone else for it.

I had a whole lot else to say but I changed my mind, Just as people can not know you with out meeting you and should not assume they know what you are by the stereotypes based on some of the things you do, people also do not know me, I do not fit the stereotype that I have been put in here either, the fact that I choose to follow Christ and the Bible, does not make me a bible thumpin' christianeese slingin guy who is only interested in my salvation and bails on you when it gets hard. I am sorry that others have done that to you and I am sorry that there are so many false christians out there, but you have fakes in everything

people are not the problem its the church system, coming from a background of being and elder and deacon in several different organized churches they are all the same. the church comes first then the hierarchy next and the people last. 90% of the churches activities stems from keeping the church open.

I believe in god but not church. The open sky and wonder of nature around me is my church

[AZLugz]

people are not the problem its the church system, coming from a background of being and elder and deacon in several different organized churches they are all the same. the church comes first then the hierarchy next and the people last. 90% of the churches activities stems from keeping the church open.

I believe in god but not church. The open sky and wonder of nature around me is my church

I agree to a great extent and that was why I stated earlier that i hated religion.

I went a little more broad to say the religion is the problem, most churches fall into that same statement tho. we have a very small, but very good church but I have to admit, like every other one, we have some people that are that way also. But as Bob eluded to, not all Christians are "that way" as not all Blacks are thieves and not all mexicans are illegal.



Sorry Joe, didn't mean to go this way and Bob is right, this is way off path

[YJunk]

Wow... I bet Joe didn't see this turn of events.

I do love the fact that is you are religious you are narrow minded and hypocritical. Don’t you know that Jeep owners chase small woodland creatures and ruin the outdoor experience for others??? All gays have aids. All black are criminals. All Mexicans are illegal. Same idea.

Just to hit all the good stuff… President Bush> all Dem.


:D

Fatness; now we're beginning to argue just for the sake of it... I'm not going to spend an entire day justifying myself; I have sh!t to do... I have an opinion of the church and of its (what I feel are) generally narrow minded hypocritical members... why do you care... go take care of you and those around you. You are making my point...

Lugz... your last post tells me more about who you are as opposed to what I perceived you to be... this is the real point of any debate... I'm guessing now, we likely have more in common than we origianlly thought... Obviously we conduct ourselvs differently, but I don't think either is right or wrong... it's just different. I know better to go to church with you and you likely would not go drinking with me... that doesn't mean on the trail we would work together to help someone out.

The language issue is what it is... until I get warned not to write Sh!t like that I will... this is how I talk and express myself... I don't feel a need not to do it... the same way you don't feel the need to do it...

People with children can start their own special jeep board if the allowed language on this one is too offensive for their liking... If I'm not able to express myself as freely as I want here; I can start my own board...

We all have choices outside of what is allowed or not allowed here... we don't live in a vacuum... the fact that this site has soooo many members is a good sign that in general terms its a well balanced approach...

No doubt I push the limits... its who I am. If I go too far I'll be the first to apologize... usually though I just own my stupidy and enjoy it. getting rid of me is as easy as blocking my posts... but most of you won't because secretly you like it... its the rubber-necker in all of us that wants to see the car crash... So if you don't want your children to read things like Mother Trucker; Fawkin A, and other colorful Sh!T... just block my posts... I'm not changing, neither are you...

[Joe West]

No one will be getting warned in this thread... I opened up the thread for people to express themselves and they can do that.

However... because I believe the policy is a good one, and asking people to control themselves in a public forum for the sake of a family atmosphere simply isn't too much to ask... the policy will be inforced outside this thread (and the similar thread in the sponsor's forum).

I really hope folks simply honor my request and keep it clean. We're all responsible adults and even those who argue against the policy can understand the logic whether they like it or not.

Joe



The language issue is what it is... until I get warned not to write Sh!t like that I will... this is how I talk and express myself... I don't feel a need not to do it... the same way you don't feel the need to do it...

[fatbob309]

Fatness; now we're beginning to argue just for the sake of it... I'm not going to spend an entire day justifying myself; I have sh!t to do... I have an opinion of the church and of its (what I feel are) generally narrow minded hypocritical members... why do you care... go take care of you and those around you. You are making my point...



I didn't ask you to justify yourself. I don't care what you think of religion and the church. Have I ever preached at you? Have I told you that you are going to hell for drinking? For cussing? Not that I know of… because I don’t do that. Why should I?

Because I said I find it funny that IF you are religious you MUST be narrow-minded I must be on of "them"…

As for finding what works for you... Good for you... good For you.

[fatbob309]

Fixed it for you Bobby.:)

Thanks!

[LOST TJ]

That assumption wasn't made about you... I don't know you... It's based on being immersed in the Church for over 30 years and seeing it for what it really is... A trucking lie.

Your choice is getting hammered because there are those of us here who find religeous quotations as offensive as bad language... I've spent a lifetime being "quoted" at by hundreds of Bible thumpers... but when the chips were down, there was no one around. Most of the Christians today are more than happy to tell you how much God loves you... and walk on their merry way while your suffering and really need help... And they're always the first to condem your actions when they themeselves take part...

You just admited you use foul language... how in the world can you come on this board and condem it... To me thats hypocrisy... To me that's a lie...

Truck Off... Please Forgive Me God... Truck Off... I'm Sorry Lord... Truck Off... I guess as long as I can ask for forgiveness and don't condone those actions I'm a good Christian... Does anyone see how self centered that is? I sin, I'm forgiven... blah blah... How does that help anyone around you?

God loves you... but I'm pretty busy... Keep the faith, things will be okay... Let your world fall to Sh!t and see how many poeple in your congregation actually show up to help... Not pat you on the back with a bandaid but really help for the long term...

Most Christians today care about little more than saving their own collective spiritual arses... few are truely motivated to carry the cross of another.

My life became livable when I stopped looking at the Church and the Bible for answers... Everything I need to know about life God has given me in the form of survival instict, common sense and a general caring for those around me. I don't need to strive to be better than the worthless sh!t head than I am... I need to help those around me... God sees me for who I truely am, why pretend that I'm different... Why lie... I'm trucked up... and all my years in the Church never changed who I was... it only made me feel badly about who I was... and in that shame I hid myself away and never allowed myself to help anyone around me, because I simply wasn't "good" enough... Now I don't fawkin care who I am or what I am... And that speaks to certain people and it opens the door...

God's love isn't recieved from the words of a man or woman... its delivered by the hand of a friend or even a stranger when your life is low... and I don't need to lable myself a Christian or quote versus to receive it or deliver it... On the contrary... the more "Me" time I spend searching for God's answers in MY life... the less time I'm able to deliver that hand... I'm not on a spiritual quest... I'm on a life quest.

Anyone who would judge me by my language and not my actions... is making my point. But honestly its what I've come to expect... that is the trucking world we live in... and in this country we can largely thank the "Church" for it...

Here's my .02... put the Bible down and stop searching for you salvation; if you've accepted Christ as your Savior your Job now is no longer about you... its about the people around you who DON'T have Him... and you can't share that message if your not willing to get Knee Deep in Sh!t Hole and help someone up... In those moments people will see you for who you really are and the message will be recieved.

If any of you have drawn conclusions about who I am from this board, let me be the first to say you're absolutely right... I'm everything you think I am... A loud obnoxious drunk, prone to fist fights, foul language, etc... but thats not all there is too me. I presonally would rather you know the bad and be suprised by the good than have it the other way around... I refuse to hide my true self any longer because it doesn't jive with what the church or christians in general think is acceptable or decent... I am what God has made me and what I've been molded into by the circumstances of my life... I'm not going to pretend to be something I'm not... That doesn't mean that I don't care about those around me... but what I do in my personal life to spread that message has nothing to do with you and I don't need the churches approval to be a tool of God...


This has to be the most honest and best post i ever read on any board. That just plain rocked. :cool:

[John_P]

However... because I believe the policy is a good one, and asking people to control themselves in a public forum for the sake of a family atmosphere simply isn't too much to ask... the policy will be inforced outside this thread (and the similar thread in the sponsor's forum).

I really hope folks simply honor my request and keep it clean. We're all responsible adults and even those who argue against the policy can understand the logic whether they like it or not.

Joe

What logic? It seems this is more opinion and one's own values than logic. Family atmosphere? Who's family are we modeling this board after? Some 1950's utopian dream?

Just curious because families fight, yell, insult each other, and generally treat each other like crap all the time. Are those good things? No. If anything, the fact that we are all comfortable expressing ourselves says more about familiy that any ban on the words we use.

[Joe West]

This Logic:

There is a single value to profanity:

1. Entertainment

There are multiple values to not having profanity:

1. It offends some members.
2. It can inflame a discussion.
3. Children don't NEED to see it.
4. It isn't necessary for communication.
5. It takes credibility away from our group.

I could go on... but I think you get the point. The benefits of eliminating profanity FAR OUTWEIGH the benefit of allowing it.

I'm open to anyone disputing the above logic. Some may try to argue that profanity actually is necessary for communication... please; don't waste your time.

Joe



What logic? It seems this is more opinion and one's own values than logic. Family atmosphere? Who's family are we modeling this board after? Some 1950's utopian dream?

Just curious because families fight, yell, insult each other, and generally treat each other like crap all the time. Are those good things? No. If anything, the fact that we are all comfortable expressing ourselves says more about familiy that any ban on the words we use.

[SHNIPE]

I see it this way :D

This Logic:

There are multiple values to profanity:

1. Entertainment
1. It offends some members.
2. It can inflame a discussion.

There are multiple values to not having profanity:

1.
2.
3. Children don't NEED to see it.
4. It isn't necessary for communication.
5. It takes credibility away from our group.


Looks like a tie :D

[YJunk]

I see it this way :D

This Logic:

There are multiple values to profanity:

1. Entertainment
1. It offends some members.
2. It can inflame a discussion.

There are multiple values to not having profanity:

1.
2.
3. Children don't NEED to see it.
4. It isn't necessary for communication.
5. It takes credibility away from our group.


Looks like a tie :D

hahahaha...

[Joe West]

Cool!!! A tie!!!

Good thing I cast the deciding vote...

I vote to eliminate profanity.

:D


I see it this way :D

This Logic:

There are multiple values to profanity:

1. Entertainment
1. It offends some members.
2. It can inflame a discussion.

There are multiple values to not having profanity:

1.
2.
3. Children don't NEED to see it.
4. It isn't necessary for communication.
5. It takes credibility away from our group.


Looks like a tie :D

[rockwerks]

Cool!!! A tie!!!

Good thing I cast the deciding vote...

I vote to eliminate profanity.

:D

now define the acceptable words.

[Joe West]

Any word that doesn't cause you to get a warning :)


now define the acceptable words.

[Tom Jacobson]

Joe's not allowed to type them, so the definition part is going to be kinda difficult, I think! ;-)

[SHNIPE]

Joe's not allowed to type them, so the definition part is going to be kinda difficult, I think! ;-)

lol if he does... ill send him a warning :D

[Joe West]

Yup.

If I said more than 3, I'd have to ban myself permanently.

I bet vBulletin software crashes when the Admin bans himself :D

hmmm.... wonder if I should try....

Naw... I did a good job of crashing the board a few weeks ago... I think I'll just not use any profanities :D

Joe's not allowed to type them, so the definition part is going to be kinda difficult, I think! ;-)

[rockwerks]

Any word that doesn't cause you to get a warning :)


I did not say to list the unacceptable words but the acceptable .:D

[Joe West]

I answered your question correctly. Read closely.


ah... I see your confusion... someone asked about listing unacceptable words and I responded. My original reply is still valid.

I did not say to list the unacceptable words but the acceptable .:D

[John_P]

This Logic:

There is a single value to profanity:

1. Entertainment



Short-sighted.

Background
Profanity does not exist until we create it. What IS profane is highly context dependent and socially constructed. It is important to remember that profanity originally refered to various forms of sacralege of a deity. In modern times it has come to include vulgarity. Profanity is also part and parcel of the human experience, prevalent in all cultures and throughout time. The fact that so many here go to great lengths to creatively employ profanity is a testament to the pervasisveness of this aspect of human language. At some points in history what we consider vulgar or profane was actually quite common and accepted.

There are numerous functions of profanity beyond the intent to offend. This highlights the context-dependent nature of interpreting such language. Profane words can be used as terms of endearment and can actually build or represent group cohesion (hence my argument earlier that our creativity is an expression of how comfortable we are with each other). Profanity has been shown to evoke physiological reactions in the reader and listerner, in such ways that suggest profanity incorporates a strong emotional component. Beyond offense, profanity can be used to communicate amazement, surprise, awe, anger, frustration and perhaps a few other emotions I can’t think of right now. Profanity can also express times when someone feels they recieved a unfair deal or have been slighted...(i.e. screwed or F**ked). Such a word not only communicates the unfairness of the deal but also highlights one's emotional reaction to said deal with the greatest amount of economy.

Third, it is important to remember that any word can be used in a profane manner. Imagine a stranger saying "Hey sweet-thang!", or "Hot-momma" to a woman passing by...profane? Yes, because the words reduce the woman to a sexual object. The sanctity of the woman as a person has been violated.

And lastly, what is profane is largely dependent on our own personal histories. Some may have grown up in an environment where is was common, yet others may have virgin ears.


There are multiple values to not having profanity:

1. It offends some members.
2. It can inflame a discussion.
3. Children don't NEED to see it.
4. It isn't necessary for communication.
5. It takes credibility away from our group.

I could go on... but I think you get the point. The benefits of eliminating profanity FAR OUTWEIGH the benefit of allowing it.

I'm open to anyone disputing the above logic. Some may try to argue that profanity actually is necessary for communication... please; don't waste your time.

Joe

Your right, on 1,2,3, & 5. Except, I think I have shown that profanity is much more entrenched in the human experience than you believe. Is it necessary for communication? No, but neither are words to be perfectly honest. The fact remains that for some, profanity captures how they feel, or expresses something they may very well have difficulty translating into other words.

Like I have repeated before, the Zero Tolerance policy captures what you really want to avoid, the outright insult and debasement of others.

[John_P]

Any word that doesn't cause you to get a warning :)

Gee...does this count: **** :rolleyes:

[Joe West]

depends on the context you use it :)

Gee...does this count: **** :rolleyes:

[Joe West]

Sheesh... I knew I should have cut and pasted the text where I told you not to attempt to tell me that profanity was necessary in communications. I could have saved you some time.


Short-sighted.

Background
Profanity does not exist until we create it. What IS profane is highly context dependent and socially constructed. It is important to remember that profanity originally refered to various forms of sacralege of a deity. In modern times it has come to include vulgarity. Profanity is also part and parcel of the human experience, prevalent in all cultures and throughout time. The fact that so many here go to great lengths to creatively employ profanity is a testament to the pervasisveness of this aspect of human language. At some points in history what we consider vulgar or profane was actually quite common and accepted.

There are numerous functions of profanity beyond the intent to offend. This highlights the context-dependent nature of interpreting such language. Profane words can be used as terms of endearment and can actually build or represent group cohesion (hence my argument earlier that our creativity is an expression of how comfortable we are with each other). Profanity has been shown to evoke physiological reactions in the reader and listerner, in such ways that suggest profanity incorporates a strong emotional component. Beyond offense, profanity can be used to communicate amazement, surprise, awe, anger, frustration and perhaps a few other emotions I can’t think of right now. Profanity can also express times when someone feels they recieved a unfair deal or have been slighted...(i.e. screwed or F**ked). Such a word not only communicates the unfairness of the deal but also highlights one's emotional reaction to said deal with the greatest amount of economy.

Third, it is important to remember that any word can be used in a profane manner. Imagine a stranger saying "Hey sweet-thang!", or "Hot-momma" to a woman passing by...profane? Yes, because the words reduce the woman to a sexual object. The sanctity of the woman as a person has been violated.

And lastly, what is profane is largely dependent on our own personal histories. Some may have grown up in an environment where is was common, yet others may have virgin ears.



Your right, on 1,2,3, & 5. Except, I think I have shown that profanity is much more entrenched in the human experience than you believe. Is it necessary for communication? No, but neither are words to be perfectly honest. The fact remains that for some, profanity captures how they feel, or expresses something they may very well have difficulty translating into other words.

Like I have repeated before, the Zero Tolerance policy captures what you really want to avoid, the outright insult and debasement of others.

[John_P]

Sheesh... I knew I should have cut and pasted the text where I told you not to attempt to tell me that profanity was necessary in communications. I could have saved you some time.

I wasn't arguing that it is necessary, but rathe, useful. Profanity has functional significance. So much so, it has stood the test of time.

[rockwerks]

I wasn't arguing that it is necessary, but rathe, useful. Profanity has functional significance. So much so, it has stood the test of time.


HMMMMMMMM and arguement for gutter talk.......

must be required to be in that famous 1% group to be able to communicate.

I have never felt the need. I guess Im dysfunctional:rolleyes:

[06GrnRubi]

Would it be improper to say something like,
I'm going to take my http://www.erasmustwiddle.com/fansites/donkeybutt.gif and go home now? :rolleyes:

[rockwerks]

Would it be improper to say something like,
I'm going to take my http://www.erasmustwiddle.com/fansites/donkeybutt.gif and go home now? :rolleyes:

that would depend on if you are referring to your rear end or riding your burro home;)

[Joe West]

So... is it necessary?


I wasn't arguing that it is necessary, but rathe, useful. Profanity has functional significance. So much so, it has stood the test of time.

[John_P]

So... is it necessary?

Words in general are not neccesary to communcate. What is your point? Sign language works quite well but would leave this board as quite useless. Bad for business? :rolleyes:

[Joe West]

You didn't answer my question.

Simple yes or no.

Is profanity necessary?


Words in general are not neccesary to communcate. What is your point? Sign language works quite well but would leave this board as quite useless. Bad for business? :rolleyes:

[John_P]

HMMMMMMMM and arguement for gutter talk.......

must be required to be in that famous 1% group to be able to communicate.

I have never felt the need. I guess Im dysfunctional:rolleyes:

I find your sarcasm degrading. How offensive. :rolleyes:

[John_P]

You didn't answer my question.

Simple yes or no.

Is profanity necessary?

Are words necessary?

What amazes me about children is their ability, at the age of 2-3 years, to communicate an entire sentence with just two-words. It is like we just know what they want to say without hearing it.

[Joe West]

laugh.

Come on John... I expect more from you. You are dancing around the issue.

As one of the more eloquent debaters on this forum... I really do expect you to be able to respond to a yes or no question.

I'll start by answering your question.

Yes... in the context of this forum... the written word is necessary.

Now...

In the context of this forum... is profanity necessary?


Are words necessary?

What amazes me about children is their ability, at the age of 2-3 years, to communicate an entire sentence with just two-words. It is like we just know what they want to say without hearing it.

[John_P]

laugh.

Come on John... I expect more from you. You are dancing around the issue.

As one of the more eloquent debaters on this forum... I really do expect you to be able to respond to a yes or no question.

I'll start by answering your question.

Yes... in the context of this forum... the written word is necessary.

Now...

In the context of this forum... is profanity necessary?

To be honest, Joe I am struggling with this question.

If I answer yes, you will feel that your view has been supported. However, I see it in a much different light.

In language, there are supposedly an infinite number of sentences. Therefore, out of all combinations, all but one is necessary to communicate one's thought (in this context, i.e. the board).

Which is the right one? Who decides? And if someone else decides for me, how can I be assured that what I'm communicating accurately reflects the message I have in mind?

[rockwerks]

Man John you do one MAD tango, You need to run for some sort of political office!

[azrubyman]

Hypothetical situation of course.

If “JeeprBadDooDoo” starts a thread with…
Left Leaning Jeeps Hate our Troops…..which rambles on about how jeeps that lean to the left are obviously Hillary supporters, Satan Lap Dogs and don’t support our troops…
And “JeepFruit” (drives a left leaning jeep) replies…
“Any doctors on the forum, because JeeprBadDooDoo has a problem with spewing oral fecal material about Left Leaning Jeeps…..
To which “Jeeping for the Saints” chimes in with….. “That kind of language is offensive. We all KNOW what you mean by that. In fact some of us KNOW everything, including what should or should not be written, read, heard or spoken. We even go so far as to say it’s for the children….when in fact it is so we don’t tempt ourselves because some of us have had self control issues in the past, but we wont go there. No sense in being to honest. It is much easier just to BAN “JeepFruit”.


So would the words fecal material be wrong and warning material?
How about teats. As in “This thread is as worthless as teats on a boar!”
How about Urine….As in, “Ken, urine trouble now!”

Censorship is lot like syphilis….once it rears its ugly head, it is hard to stop the spread.

I’m worried about the trail now…and if the word patrol will show up there. Example:
Ken is on Trail Number 2, but has to number 1. It is a family run. My gosh, children are present.
So he whispers to the trail leader over the CB. “Holier than Everyone” do you copy the azrubyman”
“Holier than Everyone” responds, Shucks boy howdy gosh darn dag nabbit azrubyman! What in tarnation do you want now?”
Azrubyman responds, “How about a nature break. I need to drain the dew off my lily…….
In this example….Some would HAVE TO KNOW what “Holier than Everyone” meant and SOME WOULD KNOW what azrubyman meant.
The question is…”Who would be censored and/or banned?

Just curious of course…..

[rockwerks]

Hypothetical situation of course.

If “JeeprBadDooDoo” starts a thread with…
Left Leaning Jeeps Hate our Troops…..which rambles on about how jeeps that lean to the left are obviously Hillary supporters, Satan Lap Dogs and don’t support our troops…
And “JeepFruit” (drives a left leaning jeep) replies…
“Any doctors on the forum, because JeeprBadDooDoo has a problem with spewing oral fecal material about Left Leaning Jeeps…..
To which “Jeeping for the Saints” chimes in with….. “That kind of language is offensive. We all KNOW what you mean by that. In fact some of us KNOW everything, including what should or should not be written, read, heard or spoken. We even go so far as to say it’s for the children….when in fact it is so we don’t tempt ourselves because some of us have had self control issues in the past, but we wont go there. No sense in being to honest. It is much easier just to BAN “JeepFruit”.


So would the words fecal material be wrong and warning material?
How about teats. As in “This thread is as worthless as teats on a boar!”
How about Urine….As in, “Ken, urine trouble now!”

Censorship is lot like syphilis….once it rears its ugly head, it is hard to stop the spread.

I’m worried about the trail now…and if the word patrol will show up there. Example:
Ken is on Trail Number 2, but has to number 1. It is a family run. My gosh, children are present.
So he whispers to the trail leader over the CB. “Holier than Everyone” do you copy the azrubyman”
“Holier than Everyone” responds, Shucks boy howdy gosh darn dag nabbit azrubyman! What in tarnation do you want now?”
Azrubyman responds, “How about a nature break. I need to drain the dew off my lily…….
In this example….Some would HAVE TO KNOW what “Holier than Everyone” meant and SOME WOULD KNOW what azrubyman meant.
The question is…”Who would be censored and/or banned?

Just curious of course…..

???????????????????:confused: english please

Gee I dont think Joe's authority goes past this board........:rolleyes:

[azrubyman]

???????????????????:confused: english please

Gee I dont think Joe's authority goes past this board........:rolleyes:

It isn't Joes authority that concerns me.

[rockwerks]

It isn't Joes authority that concerns me.

Then you have no issue do you?

[Joe West]

It's amazing how this topic has covered everything from church to left leaning Jeeps...

:D




???????????????????:confused: english please

Gee I dont think Joe's authority goes past this board........:rolleyes:

[shannonmac]

i know exactly where azrubyman was going with this
and he makes a good point

basically it's joe's site, it's joe's rules

but gosh darn it ( :rolleyes: )
this isn't a grade school "After School Special"
it's a jeep site
we aren't all sitting around singing kumbaya and deciding who will play peter pan in the school play

[rockwerks]

i know exactly where azrubyman was going with this
and he makes a good point

basically it's joe's site, it's joe's rules

but gosh darn it ( :rolleyes: )
this isn't a grade school "After School Special"
it's a jeep site
we aren't all sitting around singing kumbaya and deciding who will play peter pan in the school play

You are 100% correct and as an adult (I think) you should be able to manage a little change without any problems

[Joe West]

Everyone... all together now:

Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya
Oh Lord, kumbaya

Someone's singing Lord, kumbaya
Someone's singing Lord, kumbaya
Someone's singing Lord, kumbaya
Oh Lord, kumbayah

Someone's laughing, Lord, kumbaya
Someone's laughing, Lord, kumbaya
Someone's laughing, Lord, kumbaya
Oh Lord, kumbaya

Someone's crying, Lord, kumbaya
Someone's crying, Lord, kumbaya
Someone's crying, Lord, kumbaya
Oh Lord, kumbaya

Someone's praying, Lord, kumbaya
Someone's praying, Lord, kumbaya
Someone's praying, Lord, kumbaya
Oh Lord, kumbaya

Someone's sleeping, Lord, kumbaya
Someone's sleeping, Lord, kumbaya
Someone's sleeping, Lord, kumbaya
Oh Lord, kumbaya
Oh Lord, kumbaya

[shannonmac]

You are 100% correct and as an adult (I think) you should be able to manage a little change without any problems

i'm not too worried about myself


ps...joe, you make me giggle
(nice avatar)

[azcharlie]

Good thing I've got lot's of popcorn. Honestly, I didn't think profanity was a problem on this site.

[YJunk]

i know exactly where azrubyman was going with this
and he makes a good point

basically it's joe's site, it's joe's rules

but gosh darn it ( :rolleyes: )
this isn't a grade school "After School Special"
it's a jeep site
we aren't all sitting around singing kumbaya and deciding who will play peter pan in the school play

onya... inya (if I really like ya)... there is no end to my depravity... is this better or worse than implying someone is pokin their head in the sheeps' rear exit for a little look see...

Just trying to find that Family Line we want to draw... Clear boundaries and structure will help all of us play nice... Shannon can I play with you? Did that sound bad... I hardly know what to say anymore...

[John_P]

Good thing I've got lot's of popcorn. Honestly, I didn't think profanity was a problem on this site.

Neither did I, and I hardly use it. Often it is the other language I use that has had some up in arms...

Inference is king when context is everything.

[shannonmac]

onya... inya (if I really like ya)... there is no end to my depravity... is this better or worse than implying someone is pokin their head in the sheeps' rear exit for a little look see...

Just trying to find that Family Line we want to draw... Clear boundaries and structure will help all of us play nice... Shannon can I play with you? Did that sound bad... I hardly know what to say anymore...

BANNED!!!! :eek: :eek: :D :D

[YJunk]

BANNED!!!! :eek: :eek: :D :D

What did I say.... LOL

[John_P]

What did I say.... LOL

The *** ** ****** and **** ***...

Yea...I think that was it..

[Joe West]

It certainly was not... it was simply trending in a direction I wasn't comfortable with. It wasn't the is absolute level of the profanity... it was the trend.


Good thing I've got lot's of popcorn. Honestly, I didn't think profanity was a problem on this site.

[shannonmac]

What did I say.... LOL

there was something about a sheep
onya inya
and playing all in the same paragraph
it was one convoluted thought... :p

[YJunk]

The *** ** ****** and **** ***...

Yea...I think that was it..


Oh... pretty much everything I said... that's what I was afraid of...:D :D

[YJunk]

there was something about a sheep
onya inya
and playing all in the same paragraph
it was one convoluted thought... :p

Needless to say I won't be creating any nursery rhymes anytime soon...

[John_P]

It certainly was not... it was simply trending in a direction I wasn't comfortable with. It wasn't the is absolute level of the profanity... it was the trend.

Trends come and go...like waves breaking on the sand of moon-lit...er...I mean like a pet-rock.

[Joe West]

Hey!

You can't ban people!!!

wait...

We don't have any women moderators...

that is discriminatory...

Hmmmm....

Maybe you'd make a great moderator.

You like to Ban people?

:D

BANNED!!!! :eek: :eek: :D :D

[SHNIPE]

So joe where do you stand on posting videos with language in them??

http://virtualjeepclub.com/showpost.php?p=165473&postcount=15

Just curious since it seems to be ok in the eyes of those who look down upon it on the board.

[SHNIPE]

Hey!

You can't ban people!!!

wait...

We don't have any women moderators...

that is discriminatory...

Hmmmm....

Maybe you'd make a great moderator.

You like to Ban people?

:D

If youre hitting on her thats not very family oriented. Please take such a discussion to another board or elsewhere. Not to mention shes married by common law standards so that somewhat consitutes adultery does it not? SO you sinned and broke the rules

[John_P]

So joe where do you stand on posting videos with language in them??

http://virtualjeepclub.com/showpost.php?p=165473&postcount=15

Just curious since it seems to be ok in the eyes of those who look down upon it on the board.

You see...it is ok because the actual "content" is somewhere else...not in Joe's "home" and therefore his boss would never think of him negatively. :rolleyes:

[SHNIPE]

but by allowing it hes condoning the proliferation of such perverse language. I dont think condoning such acts is very family oriented.

Just cause his 12 year old son is having sex with his girlfriend at HER house doesnt mean they should discuss it at the dinner table.

[shannonmac]

If youre hitting on her thats not very family oriented. Please take such a discussion to another board or elsewhere. Not to mention shes married by common law standards so that somewhat consitutes adultery does it not? SO you sinned and broke the rules

oh great...i'll never get a real ring now!

gosh darn it!

and i would make a wonderful moderator
i could enact my justice on people as i see fit :D


scary, scary indeed

[YJunk]

oh great...i'll never get a real ring now!

gosh darn it!

and i would make a wonderful moderator
i could enact my justice on people as i see fit :D


scary, scary indeed

Shnipe its kind of a long story... but we're supposed to drag her man directly into her path while she's walking some day... I'll give you all the details once we get him...

[shannonmac]

Shnipe its kind of a long story... but we're supposed to drag her man directly into her path while she's walking some day... I'll give you all the details once we get him...

LOL!
thanks :o

[shannonmac]

but back to the video matter at hand:

this is what happens when you're kids catch ya' cussin' on the jeep board

http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e359/shannongmac/?action=view&current=NoFearOfMonsters.flv



DOH!

[YJunk]

but back to the video matter at hand:

this is what happens when you're kids catch ya' cussin' on the jeep board

http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e359/shannongmac/?action=view&current=NoFearOfMonsters.flv



DOH!

Yo OvenMitt... that was funny

[John_P]

You starvelling, you eel-skin, you dried neat's-tongue, you bull's-pizzle, you stock-fish--O for breath to utter what is like thee!-you tailor's-yard, you sheath, you bow-case, you vile standing tuck!

Taken from: Henry IV, part I - Shakespeare

[shannonmac]

Yo OvenMitt... that was funny

YJunk...bringin' back oven mitt for the class of '07

AWWWWWWWWW YEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH.......

[BRUZR]

hmmmm...if we are gonna ban cuss words, can we ban scripture in the tags as well...
i paid my dues at catholic school for 12 years :rolleyes:

That hurts... I agree with AZLugz totally...

With so many people agreeing with your backwards point of view on this, I'm half tempted to leave.

I really can't believe you people agree with Shannon on that... One thing has nothing to do with the other.

[shannonmac]

That hurts... I agree with AZLugz totally...

With so many people agreeing with your backwards point of view on this, I'm half tempted to leave.

I really can't believe you people agree with Shannon on that... One thing has nothing to do with the other.

hmmmm...should i leave b/c you think my view is backwards?
no, b/c in all honesty, i don't really care what you think of my view one way or the other...b/c its my view

however, if you can't take the fact that someone doesn't agree with what you believe in, then that is on you
do whatcha gotta do

[azcharlie]

but back to the video matter at hand:

this is what happens when you're kids catch ya' cussin' on the jeep board

http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e359/shannongmac/?action=view&current=NoFearOfMonsters.flv



DOH!


It's funny but I was watching the Built to grind video with my 3yr old......NOT A GOOD IDEA. It's a cool video and my son loves it but now he walks around the house saying Holy ****. Funny the first time. Not so funny with soap in his mouth the second.

[YJunk]

hmmmm...should i leave b/c you think my view is backwards?
no, b/c in all honesty, i don't really care what you think of my view one way or the other...b/c its my view

however, if you can't take the fact that someone doesn't agree with what you believe in, then that is on you
do whatcha gotta do

X2...

[BRUZR]

hmmmm...should i leave b/c you think my view is backwards?
no, b/c in all honesty, i don't really care what you think of my view one way or the other...b/c its my view

however, if you can't take the fact that someone doesn't agree with what you believe in, then that is on you
do whatcha gotta do

I just don't get why you made such a ridiculous comment about AZLugz having scripture in his sig... If anything, it's a positive thing, whereas all the masked profanity is becoming quite vulgar.

[BRUZR]

X2...

Who asked ya...

[06GrnRubi]

My guess is that the children that are trying to be protected either have, or will hear much worse from the school yard than they will be subjected to here. I don't see where we need to be censored.

[rockwerks]

My guess is that the children that are trying to be protected either have, or will hear much worse from the school yard than they will be subjected to here. I don't see where we need to be censored.

The world is a dangerous place to live -
not because of the people who are evil
but because of the people
who don't do anything about it.
Albert Einstein




I really like your signature, Thanks Joe for stepping up and making the world just a little bit safer! :D

[Tom Jacobson]

Honestly, I didn't think profanity was a problem on this site.

Yeah, no shi...I mean no fecal matter, Charlie! :D

Doesn't really matter to me wither way, but I do think it's over the top to ban the use profanity and the various slang representations. A request to tone it down...sure.

But again, I do agree with Charlie that I never really considered this place to have that much profanity to begin with.

And also, if the request/rule to eliminate profanity is the moderator's desire, so be it. But let's not use the "children" as the supporting argument. Aside from looking at the pictures from a trail run, what business/interest does a true child have in being on this site (don't give me the "under 18 is a child and you can drive at 16 and own a jeep and be here, argument)?

I only have a 3.5 yr old, so I can't answer, but are your 5, 6, 8, 10, 12 yr old kids coming to this site on their own? Why????

Tom

[rockwerks]

Yeah, no shi...I mean no fecal matter, Charlie! :D

Doesn't really matter to me wither way, but I do think it's over the top to ban the use profanity and the various slang representations. A request to tone it down...sure.

But again, I do agree with Charlie that I never really considered this place to have that much profanity to begin with.

And also, if the request/rule to eliminate profanity is the moderator's desire, so be it. But let's not use the "children" as the supporting argument. Aside from looking at the pictures from a trail run, what business/interest does a true child have in being on this site (don't give me the "under 18 is a child and you can drive at 16 and own a jeep and be here, argument)?

I only have a 3.5 yr old, so I can't answer, but are your 5, 6, 8, 10, 12 yr old kids coming to this site on their own? Why????

Tom

I have raised 2 boys both now 24 and 26 and now have a 12 year old girl in the house with us for the school year and probably until she is out of middle school.

I treat her the same way I did the boys, I taught them that profanity is not acceptable in any form for any reason. I will continue on the same track.

Sometimes she looks over my shoulder while Im on the net and It would be nice to be able to be here without having to blank the screen when she approaches.

Just because she hears it at school or the mall does not mean it has its place it just means that many parents are not doing their jobs, apathy is what is killing this country, our sport and much much more.

(stepping off of soapbox)

[YJunk]

Who asked ya...

who freakin asked YOU... Its okay for you you to interject on Lugz behalf but I can't support Shannon... freakin pompus narrow minded hyporcite... don't step in the ring if ya aint willing to get punched...

[UNSTUCK]

At the end of the day, a rule is a rule. Joe says no profanity on this board. If we want to use the board, we should be willing to follow the rules. The sad part is that those who brake the rules are seldom hurt. I'm sure it doesn't bother us to change the way words are spelled so as to mask the broken rule, Just like it didn't bother the guy to run the red light that killed our friend a few weeks back. Different level, same idea.
Funny, I feel like I'm back in 1st grade. Maybe it's time to ask some of us to leave if we cannot follow the rules. I will be more carefull in the words I choose.

[BRUZR]

My guess is that the children that are trying to be protected either have, or will hear much worse from the school yard than they will be subjected to here. I don't see where we need to be censored.

Doesn't your signature directly conflict with your point of view here?

[YJunk]

I'll take my bannin like a man... you'll all live happy little lives when I'm no longer on the board... I'm waiting for my message Joe... Of course to be honest there is nothing profane in my language... nothing obscene about my avatar (unless you're racist)... So I'm guessing we'll come up with some other BS rule to fix me... this should be good...

[BRUZR]

who freakin asked YOU... Its okay for you you to interject on Lugz behalf but I can't support Shannon... freakin pompus narrow minded hyporcite... don't step in the ring if ya aint willing to get punched...

Yeah, that's me... Shannon's a big girl. She can handle things herself.

Dude... Naw forget it.;)

[BRUZR]

I'll take my bannin like a man... you'll all live happy little lives when I'm no longer on the board... I'm waiting for my message Joe... Of course to be honest there is nothing profane in my language... nothing obscene about my avatar (unless you're racist)... So I'm guessing we'll come up with some other BS rule to fix me... this should be good...

Or can read lips. What's he saying??? Vaccuum?

GROW UP.

Hey Shnipe... This boy thinks he knows me.:p

[BRUZR]

All I was saying in the first place was that someone insulted me indirectly by placing my faith (exampled in AZLugz's sig) in the same category as the adolescent bantering and antics (exampled in YJunk's avatar)...

I'm really surprised Joe hasn't started with the warnings and further steps since all of you seem to think it's cute to mock his decision and authority here by continuing to find ways to circumvent the rule he made.

Go hang out on Pirate if you feel you have to talk like you have no morals or upbringing. My kids DO read the board with me and I have to explain it to them regularly.

[Joe West]

lol... relax. Nothing happening from this thread or any other until everyone settles down. :)


I'll take my bannin like a man... you'll all live happy little lives when I'm no longer on the board... I'm waiting for my message Joe... Of course to be honest there is nothing profane in my language... nothing obscene about my avatar (unless you're racist)... So I'm guessing we'll come up with some other BS rule to fix me... this should be good...

[shannonmac]

actually i was just expressing how i feel
and apparently other feel the same way as me
that's all it is
i make no excuses
just a casual observation, b/c at some point its gonna end up coming down to what is in our signatures
you may find cursing offensive
i might find the high and almightyness of you offensive
whatever
am i gonna take my toys and go home...no
and junky just had an opinion, which last time i checked, this is still america and he still has a right to say he agrees with me...and i have a right to say what i said


end speach...

[LOST TJ]

Its obvious that everyone is not going to agree on this. What about a adult content warning on the off topic section. That will be the only section where we can be a little looser and talk some trash. I'm not talking going off on each other. Just be a bit more relaxed and even a bit childish. Then any where else on this forum things be strictly enforced. Flame or curse and banned. It might help settle things down around here. Just an idea. :confused:

[shannonmac]

How about seeing as you have to be 13 to come on here...we settle for a PG-13 rating?
seriously
PG-13 is thus a sterner warning to parents, particularly when deciding which movies are not suitable for younger children. Parents, by the rating, are alerted to be very careful about the attendance of their under-teenage children. A PG-13 film is one which, in the view of the Rating Board, leaps beyond the boundaries of the PG rating in theme, violence, nudity, sensuality, language, or other contents, but does not quite fit within the restricted R category. Any drug use content will initially require at least a PG-13 rating. In effect, the PG-13 cautions parents with more stringency than usual to give special attention to this film before they allow their 12-year-olds and younger to attend. If nudity is sexually oriented, the film will generally not be found in the PG-13 category. If violence is too rough or persistent, the film goes into the R (restricted) rating. A film's single use of one of the harsher sexually derived words, though only as an expletive, shall initially require the Rating Board to issue that film at least a PG-13 rating. More than one such expletive must lead the Rating Board to issue a film an R rating, as must even one of these words used in a sexual context. These films can be rated less severely, however, if by a special vote, the Rating Board feels that a lesser rating would more responsibly reflect the opinion of American parents.

PG-13 places larger responsibilities on parents for their children and moviegoing. The voluntary rating system is not a surrogate parent, nor should it be. It cannot, and should not, insert itself in family decisions that only parents can make. Its purpose is to give pre-screened informational warnings, so that parents can form their own judgments. PG-13 is designed to make parental decisions easier for films between PG and R.

[Sedona Jeep School]

Good idea--isn't that what Pirate 4x4 and JU are for?

[Joe West]

Dude... I like your new Avatar! Much better than the guy who was mouthing the word "vacuum"

:D




who freakin asked YOU... Its okay for you you to interject on Lugz behalf but I can't support Shannon... freakin pompus narrow minded hyporcite... don't step in the ring if ya aint willing to get punched...

[LOST TJ]

I've never been on JU. As for pirate, yeah i guess kinda of like that, but i said not go off on each other. A PG-13 rating like Shannon said. Not a PG 21 like pirate off topic should be. :D One thing there though. If you do flame or curse at another person in any other topic, you get banned quick. Like i said it was just an idea. People will never agree on this topic. It really doesn't matter either way to me. I make sure that my kids have better things to do than go on a board full of adults. :)

[rockwerks]

At the end of the day, a rule is a rule. Joe says no profanity on this board. If we want to use the board, we should be willing to follow the rules. The sad part is that those who brake the rules are seldom hurt. I'm sure it doesn't bother us to change the way words are spelled so as to mask the broken rule, Just like it didn't bother the guy to run the red light that killed our friend a few weeks back. Different level, same idea.
Funny, I feel like I'm back in 1st grade. Maybe it's time to ask some of us to leave if we cannot follow the rules. I will be more carefull in the words I choose.


well said

[biggreenYJ]

YIKES that went all sorts of crazy, a good read though.
plain and simple though if a mod sets a rule no-matter how stupid some may think it is the MOD said so we all must adhere or go elsewhere.

personally my kids know when and when not to use curse words, we're choosing to raise them that way, but each parent has their own style and NO-ONE has the right to say otherwise on a persons parenting skills unless their kids are in some sort of harm or doing something seriously wrong.
plus my 2 are too small to really read the forums yet they just like the Jeep pics and videos. LMAO

[YJunk]

I'll take my bannin like a man... you'll all live happy little lives when I'm no longer on the board... I'm waiting for my message Joe... Of course to be honest there is nothing profane in my language... nothing obscene about my avatar (unless you're racist)... So I'm guessing we'll come up with some other BS rule to fix me... this should be good...

ahahahahahhaaaaaa.... now thats funny... of course without a doubt that will also offend the religous jugernaut... so I feel like I still win...

Funny stuff Joe!!

[06GrnRubi]

Doesn't your signature directly conflict with your point of view here?

I don't think so. Didn't you ever learn that Sticks and stones will break your bones, but words will never hurt you? Words are just words. Nothing more.

Can't wait to see if the big offenders actually get banned.

[fatbob309]

Good time had by all...

[Joe West]

Lol... ya... go ahead and change it back... just wanted to make you smile :)


ahahahahahhaaaaaa.... now thats funny... of course without a doubt that will also offend the religous jugernaut... so I feel like I still win...

Funny stuff Joe!!

[YJunk]

All I was saying in the first place was that someone insulted me indirectly by placing my faith (exampled in AZLugz's sig) in the same category as the adolescent bantering and antics (exampled in YJunk's avatar)...

I'm really surprised Joe hasn't started with the warnings and further steps since all of you seem to think it's cute to mock his decision and authority here by continuing to find ways to circumvent the rule he made.

Go hang out on Pirate if you feel you have to talk like you have no morals or upbringing. My kids DO read the board with me and I have to explain it to them regularly.

Go hang out at 4x4him.com if you don't like my speach... There are poeple who find your faith insulting...

[Joe West]

So... someone suggested that the language spec be relaxed for the off-topic section (meaning... masked profanity they have been) and that I put a warning on the forum.

I am willing to compromise and do this... if this works for ya'all.

I want some buy-in first.

Please note... it doesn't mean open season on the real words and if things get out of hand, I'll ban profanity in the off-topic section as well.

Will this work?

Joe

[YJunk]

Lol... ya... go ahead and change it back... just wanted to make you smile :)

dude no way... I got schooled and I think its funny as all get out!!! Joe wins... he's got the Admin Panel...

[06GrnRubi]

So... someone suggested that the language spec be relaxed for the off-topic section (meaning... masked profanity they have been) and that I put a warning on the forum.Joe

Maybe the sponsor section could be relaxed and the rest censored.

[shannonmac]

So... someone suggested that the language spec be relaxed for the off-topic section (meaning... masked profanity they have been) and that I put a warning on the forum.

I am willing to compromise and do this... if this works for ya'all.

I want some buy-in first.

Please note... it doesn't mean open season on the real words and if things get out of hand, I'll ban profanity in the off-topic section as well.

Will this work?

Joe

that's where my pg-13 thingy came from
pg-13... meaning... you still gotta add some " ****'s " like we always have, but i think bish should be accpetable...a girl needs a giggle every now and then :D

[BRUZR]

Go hang out at 4x4him.com if you don't like my speach... There are poeple who find your faith insulting...

Remember that when you're bathing in that lake of fire... One day maybe you'll understand, but by then, it'll be too late...:(

But, I'll pray for you just the same... I love ya man... Even if you do fly a rainbow flag... :D

[fatbob309]

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/

A safe place...

[shannonmac]

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/

A safe place...

hmmmm....guaranteed salvation
is that a money back guarantee?







sorry, i couldn't resist :D

[YJunk]

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/

A safe place...


Woooooooooow..... Dude I just went into shock...

[Joe West]

That has to be some kind of joke... the header of their forum says:

"Unsaved Unwelcome"

Is that possible? I thought one of the fundamental goals of most christian churches was evangalism...


Laugh!!!

Just read some posts... tooo funny!!!

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/

A safe place...

[fatbob309]

That has to be some kind of joke... the header of their forum says:

"Unsaved Unwelcome"

Is that possible? I thought one of the fundamental goals of most christian churches was evangalism...

Yeah... its a joke... sort of... The site has been around for years now. It always makes me laugh.

[YJunk]

I'm in complete shock... Here is a sample of the rhetoric on the Landover Baptist board "Where the Worthwhile Worship"

***********************************
Congratulations Sister M&M. I'm pleased you will be joining the Platinum™ status with your Tithing.
Of course, being just a Single Platinum still puts you a couple of Rows behind my good self but you are at least going in the right direction.
It's a long way from your previous life as a Cattylicking Ring Kissing Poop Worshipper.

I Praise the Lord© that he has blessed you with this new status and I hope you show your thanks to Jesus® by giving Birth to many young Chri$tian Soldiers.
__________________
We should invade their countries, kill their Leaders and convert them to Christianity.

***********************************

Yeah... thats what I want to be part of... this site also accuses Catholics and Lutherans of being a Cult...

Super... You got to love when Christians can't even agree that other Christians are getting into Heaven...

[fatbob309]

ITS A JOKE SITE... NOT REAL...



I'm in complete shock... Here is a sample of the rhetoric on the Landover Baptist board "Where the Worthwhile Worship"

***********************************
Congratulations Sister M&M. I'm pleased you will be joining the Platinum™ status with your Tithing.
Of course, being just a Single Platinum still puts you a couple of Rows behind my good self but you are at least going in the right direction.
It's a long way from your previous life as a Cattylicking Ring Kissing Poop Worshipper.

I Praise the Lord© that he has blessed you with this new status and I hope you show your thanks to Jesus® by giving Birth to many young Chri$tian Soldiers.
__________________
We should invade their countries, kill their Leaders and convert them to Christianity.

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Yeah... thats what I want to be part of... this site also accuses Catholics and Lutherans of being a Cult...

Super... You got to love when Christians can't even agree that other Christians are getting into Heaven...

[Crawldit]

So... someone suggested that the language spec be relaxed for the off-topic section (meaning... masked profanity they have been) and that I put a warning on the forum.

I am willing to compromise and do this... if this works for ya'all.

I want some buy-in first.

Please note... it doesn't mean open season on the real words and if things get out of hand, I'll ban profanity in the off-topic section as well.

Will this work?

Joe Sounds like it's time for a Poll. Personally I like the idea.

[shannonmac]

Super... You got to love when Christians can't even agree that other Christians are getting into Heaven...

LOL!
thats like the email chain
we're all arguing that we are all right, therefor only we can go to heaven, but seeing as we all think the other one is wrong, they must be the ones going to hell, therefor we all cancel each other out and therefor are all going to hell...

hmmmm...it might be a tad crowded down there, it'll make the 10 look like a country road... :p

[fatbob309]

This is the one I love...

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0703/biblecamp.html

Register Your Sissy Boy For Vacation Bible Gun Camp!

[AZG23]

I think this thread turned rediculous.......do some of you have NO common courtesy for those around you..?

If your asked to tone it down...well then do it.....bottom l