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44964 From: Eric Marble <emarble3@p...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 0:41pm
Subject: test
test
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44965 From: Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 0:16pm
Subject: test
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44966 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 5:51pm
Subject: [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, March 9, 2002 - Reminder
Hello All,
is leading a Crown King from Lake Pleasant trail run on Saturday, March 9, 2002.
When: SAT. March 9th meet at SE corner of I-17 &; Carefree highway 9 am pull out 930
Where:
Rating: 3.0-
Length:
CB Channel: CH-4
The Lake Pleasang to Crown King trail is a local favorite. On any given weekend, there will be numerous groups of four wheelers, ATV's and motorcycles heading to and from Crown King. It is a fun and scenic trail into the cooler pines of the Bradshaws. This trail was the first trip ever done by AzVJC.
The trail takes off from the Castle Hotsprings Rd and travels through the foot hills and up the side of the mountain, giving nice views of Lake Pleasant and the Valley. There are some tougher optional sections that can make it interesting.
The trail goes through the old ghost towns of Fort Misery and Oro Belle, both of which are remnants of the Mining era of the Bradshaw Mountains. All that remains now, are foundations and a few crumbling walls. Fort Misery makes a nice place to stop and eat lunch as the small creek usually has running water and there are trees to provide shade.
In the winter months, the trail from Fort Misery through Oro Belle to Crown King will often have snow and/or ice. In the summer, an early start is necessary to stay ahead of the rising temperatures.
Once on top of the mountain, the trail runs through the cool pines and into Crown King. In Crown King there are places to eat and have a drink, and a general store that sells some excellent fudge. The old Crown King Saloon was actually built in Oro Belle, and later hauled up (many years ago) to Crown King and rebuilt. In Oro Belle, the saloon was built into the side of the hill, so the upstairs were mainly accessable from the rear of the building (at ground level). The upstairs served as a place repose for women of ill fame.
There are campgrounds on top of the mountain near Crown King for those wishing to stay overnight. The fastest way down is via the main road which leads through Cleator and toward Bumble Bee. You can split off and go through Cordes Junction, which will get you to the Freeway quicker, or keep going strait and go through the little town of Bumble Bee.
Alternatively, you can take the Senator Highway toward Prescott or Mayer, this can be a very interesting trail during snow season. If you have the time, follow Towers Mountain rd through Crown King and up to the top of Towers Mountain, there are some excellent views and you can join back up with the Senator Highway afterward.
Have fun, remember to bring water and your camera.
Enjoy, and remember to TREAD Lightly!
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
44967 From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
Date: Tue Mar 5, 2002 6:46am
Subject: ARB Locker?
Sorry if I'm re-hashing old ground,
I've surfed the net and the archives and not found answer to what I'm
looking for. I've heard that if you already have onboard air the ARB's are
not that pricey. Can anyone give me a ballpark figure for an arb minus the
compressor, minus the solenoid and plumbing, just what it needs to be
installed?
I come from Aus, so it wouldn't be too hard for me to get friends to buy
one and ship it over to south Korea at a value of $50, so I can diddle the
corrupt government out of their 20% import tax. The full kit over here
sells around US$900 not including installation. Is this a DIY'er?
Can anyone tell me about gearing? Does the ARB come with it, or does it
re-use the stock ring and pinion? Are there limits to how low you can gear
them?
Thanks.
Shaun
South Korea
44968 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 8:24pm
Subject: [FS] BLACK YJ HARD TOP AND FULL DOORS
Price:
Contact: GREEN65234@AOL.COM
BLACK HARD TOP W/ FULL WHITE HARD DOORS AND TINTED GLASS VERY GOOD SHAPE$1000. POSS. PART TRADE FOR SOFT TOP CURRENTLY ON A 90' YJ.
Perry Green
44969 From: David Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 0:26pm
Subject: Trails on the way to Vegas?
Are there any good trails on the way to Vegas. I know b4 the dam I have seen some dirt roads that look interesting, but is that it?
Please no Wickenburg trails
David R. W. Withers
Desk: 480.551.4667
Mobile: 480.215.6992
44970 From: Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 9:54am
Subject: TEST
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44971 From: rick_logan2002 <rlogan@d...>
Date: Tue Mar 5, 2002 7:11am
Subject: 92 YJ
I have a 5in ProComp Coil Suspension but I would like to find another
coil susupension My friend has the Black Diamond on his YJ which has
a big front lifting problem doing obsticles. Now he has do some
modifcations. Black Diamond has some enginering problems
44972 From: <rlpii@q...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 5:09pm
Subject: Trip Report - Turkey Creek
Hey Jason,
I said I was SORRY! I promises I will never be a no-show
again :-(
Guess I know better than to stand you up :-)
Sounds like you guys had a great time. Sorry I missed it!
Bob
74 CJ-5
44973 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 6:00pm
Subject: [FS] D35 &D30 33s ON RIMS 3" BODY LIFT &MORE
Price:
Contact: GREEN65234@AOL.COM
GREAT SPARE PARTS FOR THE TRAIL. ALL PARTS OUT OF A 90' WRANGLER. BOTH AXLES ARE COMPLETE DISC TO DISC DRUM TO DRUM $100 EA OPEN DIFFs 3:55 GEARS. 3" BODY LIFT $35. 4 WORN YOKAHAMAS 33 X 12.5 ON BLACK STEEL RIMS 5 ON 5.5 $50. VACUUM HARNESS FOR FRONT AXLE NOT TO OLD $100 NEW $35. STOCK REAR DRIVE LINE $40.
Perry Green
44974 From: <SIMONLUKER@A...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 9:30am
Subject: QUIET
IT SURE IS A QUIET DAY IN THE AZVJC. IS EVERYBODY MAD AT EACH OTHER AFTER
LAST WEEK?
44975 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 10:28am
Subject: [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, March 9, 2002
Hello All,
is leading a Crown King from Lake Pleasant trail run on Saturday, March 9, 2002.
When: SAT. March 9th meet at SE corner of I-17 &; Carefree highway 9 am pull out 930
Where:
Rating: 3.0-
Length:
CB Channel: CH-4
The Lake Pleasang to Crown King trail is a local favorite. On any given weekend, there will be numerous groups of four wheelers, ATV's and motorcycles heading to and from Crown King. It is a fun and scenic trail into the cooler pines of the Bradshaws. This trail was the first trip ever done by AzVJC.
The trail takes off from the Castle Hotsprings Rd and travels through the foot hills and up the side of the mountain, giving nice views of Lake Pleasant and the Valley. There are some tougher optional sections that can make it interesting.
The trail goes through the old ghost towns of Fort Misery and Oro Belle, both of which are remnants of the Mining era of the Bradshaw Mountains. All that remains now, are foundations and a few crumbling walls. Fort Misery makes a nice place to stop and eat lunch as the small creek usually has running water and there are trees to provide shade.
In the winter months, the trail from Fort Misery through Oro Belle to Crown King will often have snow and/or ice. In the summer, an early start is necessary to stay ahead of the rising temperatures.
Once on top of the mountain, the trail runs through the cool pines and into Crown King. In Crown King there are places to eat and have a drink, and a general store that sells some excellent fudge. The old Crown King Saloon was actually built in Oro Belle, and later hauled up (many years ago) to Crown King and rebuilt. In Oro Belle, the saloon was built into the side of the hill, so the upstairs were mainly accessable from the rear of the building (at ground level). The upstairs served as a place repose for women of ill fame.
There are campgrounds on top of the mountain near Crown King for those wishing to stay overnight. The fastest way down is via the main road which leads through Cleator and toward Bumble Bee. You can split off and go through Cordes Junction, which will get you to the Freeway quicker, or keep going strait and go through the little town of Bumble Bee.
Alternatively, you can take the Senator Highway toward Prescott or Mayer, this can be a very interesting trail during snow season. If you have the time, follow Towers Mountain rd through Crown King and up to the top of Towers Mountain, there are some excellent views and you can join back up with the Senator Highway afterward.
Have fun, remember to bring water and your camera.
Enjoy, and remember to TREAD Lightly!
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
44976 From: Bill Witt <k7ant@t...>
Date: Tue Mar 5, 2002 7:26am
Subject: Re: OT Trivia Beer Drinkers
I don't know about hostility, but I do look at Bud Light drinkers differently now. Personally, I like Corona.
Bill W
K7ANT
97 TJ with a few mods.
http://k7ant.rockcrawler.com/
Up on the Mogollon Rim in God and 4 wheeler's country.
----- Original Message -----
From: DesertJeep
To: Bill Witt ; AZVJC
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 8:17 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] OT Trivia Beer Drinkers
Do I detect some hostility? IMO judging from the evidence (drinking and driving and/or littering) both. I think the government should spend some greeny given money to do a study on it.
Just my opinion.
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Witt [mailto:k7ant@therim.com]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:01 AM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] OT Trivia Beer Drinkers
My local radio club here in the Heber/Overgaard area has it's mile of highway on state route 260 to keep clean, (Rim Country Amateur Radio Club Sponsorship). We usually do this three or four times a year.
Anyway, Of all the beer cans and bottles we pick up on every trip, it seems that Bud Light is America's favorite beer to drink and then throw the empty out the window. Consistently over the last 3 years, 90 to 98% of beer cans/bottles we pick up are Bud Light. As you drive down the trail, and pick up the empties you see, I would suspect that Bud Light is the hands down favorite or does drinking Bud Light make you stupid?
Bill W
K7ANT
97 TJ with a few mods.
http://k7ant.rockcrawler.com/
Up on the Mogollon Rim in God and 4 wheeler's country.
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
44977 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 9:15am
Subject: [FS] Gen. Steel Trail Rack for 97-02 Tj's
Price: $75 or Best offer
Contact: jason.laliberty@fairmont.com
Bought this and reinforced the gerry can holders. Have taken offroad with no problems holding 2 full cans.
visit
www.greenmachine.alloffroad.com for pictures under "fun in the sun" Several on the bottom of the page.
Jason LaLiberty
44978 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 4:29am
Subject: Test
test test test... blah blah
44979 From: Bill Witt <k7ant@t...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 10:24am
Subject: Tid bits
Where is everyone today? At work I suppose. Here's an interesting tid bit for those who don't have on board air or carry a co2 bottle. Found this on www.azrockcrawler.com
Chris does a real good job.
SPARE TIRE AIR TANK
Airing down your tires before heading off-road is one of the best things you can do to further increase your vehicles capabilities. By dropping your air pressure from 35 psi to 10 psi you greatly increase the contact patch of your tire and allow the tire to wrap around obstacles, not to mention it really smoothes out the ride on bumpy, wash boarded roads. For more serious rock crawling many people go even lower than 10 psi, I regularly run my tires at 5 psi as seen in the above picture. So your thinking great, a free way to increase my traction, what's the catch? When youre all done with the trail you'll want to air back up. Sometimes a gas station is close at hand, most of the times this isn't the case. Here's a cheap way to be able to add 10-15 psi of air to each tire quickly and without spending a lot of money. This setup uses your spare tire as an air tank. Simply fill your spare to 55-60 psi before you head out on the trail. When done you can use the hose shown below to transfer the air from the spare to your tires.
Parts
25ft of air hose (1/4" or 3/8" ID is fine)
2 tire spuds (usually 1/4 npt threads)
2 hose nipples
2 Hose clamps
Teflon Tape
Check out the site for further details
Bill W
K7ANT
97 TJ with a few mods.
http://k7ant.rockcrawler.com/
Up on the Mogollon Rim in God and 4 wheeler's country.
44980 From: jetowle2000 <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Mar 5, 2002 7:32am
Subject: Re: Almost back on the trails
Dang Randy, that thing was already about 3 feet off the ground, now
it is 3'7" :D .
Do you have any good drawings for the new crossmembers/tranny mount?
Did you use someones clocking adapter, or did you make one?
That Jeep should be perfect now.
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Siade, Randy" <randy.siade@u...> wrote:
> Well I am almost done again. Transfer case is rebuilt with 4:1 and
HD output
> shaft, I also clocked it up. I made a new cross member and shoved
everything
> up. This has netted me near 7" more ground clearance underneath.
Since I did
> all that my current rear driveline could not be used so I installed
a Currie
> HP 9" third member with a spool and 4:88 gears. This also helped my
drive
> line angle. My U-joints went from 12.5 deg. to 7.5deg. My drive
shaft went
> from 25deg angle to 15 deg angle. The only thing left to do is get
the rear
> drive shaft shortened by 1.5" and I am taking it in today. Should
be ready
> to hit the trails by this weekend with a 133:1 crawl ratio!!
>
> Regards
> Randy Siade
> Engineering Manager
> Unisys Unigen Operations
> 6161 W. Erie Street
> Chandler, AZ 85226
> Phone 480 783-5911
> Fax 480 783-5960
> Cell 602-329-0699
> randy.siade@u...
44981 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Mar 5, 2002 7:58am
Subject: Re: ?????????????
Seems like the listserver was dead for most of the day, but seems back up
now. An e-mail that I sent yesterday, just came across.
Cheers,
fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jayke Thorpe" <jeepboy_3@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 2:11 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] ?????????????
> Is this coming thru? I haven't seen any posts all
> day. If it is, can you e-mail me directly and let me
> know.
> Thanks...
> Jayke Thorpe
>
> =====
> S. Jayke Thorpe
>
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44982 From: Chris benner <offroadfun@t...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 7:59pm
Subject: 7 msgs
wow only 7 msgs for 3/4/02, is something broken?
44983 From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Tue Mar 5, 2002 8:06am
Subject: Re: OT Trivia Beer Drinkers
Bud Light is prob one of the best selling beers, I can't stand it
though. Not to sound like an ***, but I think that most people who
drink bud light are the more irresponsible ones, who throw the cans
out the window. So, to answer your question, yes, drinking Bud Light
makes you stupid!!!! ;)
Mike Baney
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Bill Witt" <k7ant@t...> wrote:
> My local radio club here in the Heber/Overgaard area has it's mile
of highway on state route 260 to keep clean, (Rim Country Amateur
Radio Club Sponsorship). We usually do this three or four times a
year.
> Anyway, Of all the beer cans and bottles we pick up on every trip,
it seems that Bud Light is America's favorite beer to drink and then
throw the empty out the window. Consistently over the last 3 years,
90 to 98% of beer cans/bottles we pick up are Bud Light. As you drive
down the trail, and pick up the empties you see, I would suspect that
Bud Light is the hands down favorite or does drinking Bud Light make
you stupid?
> Bill W
> K7ANT
> 97 TJ with a few mods.
> http://k7ant.rockcrawler.com/
> Up on the Mogollon Rim in God and 4 wheeler's country.
44984 From: Gary MacLaren <gmaclaren@c...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 9:42am
Subject: Fw: SEMA Action Network Legislative Alert - Arizona Considers Legislation to Tax "Gas Guzzlers"
Fellow Four Wheelers;
Time to let our state legislators know how we feel about this bill.
BCNU,
Brad
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carla Boucher" <ccboucher@c...>
To: "Arizona State Assoc. of 4WD Clubs" <asa4wdc@a...>
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:16 AM
Subject: Fw: SEMA Action Network Legislative Alert - Arizona Considers
Legislation to Tax "Gas Guzzlers"
> The following message is from our friends at SEMA. If your association is
> on the SAN e-mail list for SEMA I apologize for duplicating this message.
>
> Thanks
> Carla
>
> Carla Boucher, Attorney
> United Four Wheel Drive Associations
> P.O. Box 15696
> Chesapeake, VA 23328
> (757) 482-4474
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Caudill" <brianc@s...>
> To: <brianc@s...>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 4:07 PM
> Subject: SEMA Action Network Legislative Alert - Arizona Considers
> Legislation to Tax "Gas Guzzlers"
>
>
> > LEGISLATIVE ALERT
> >
> > Arizona Considers Taxing "Gas Guzzlers"
> >
> > In a misguided attempt to reduce dependence on foreign oil and improve
air
> > quality, legislation has been introduced in the Arizona House of
> > Representatives (H.B. 2575) to tax vehicles up to $600 each registration
> > year based upon their fuel economy (the lower the gas mileage, the
higher
> > the tax). If these efforts are successful, the effects on your ability
to
> > purchase the vehicle of your choice, not to mention vehicle safety, will
> be
> > dramatic.
> >
> > Contact Your Arizona State Legislators To Oppose Taxing Vehicles Based
> Upon
> > Fuel Efficiency
> >
> >
> > · H.B. 2575 will limit consumer choice in purchasing vehicles by making
> > popular performance and luxury cars, as well as SUVs, light trucks and
> > minivans, substantially more expensive to own.
> >
> > · H. 2575 will lead to more deaths on Arizona's highways as higher
taxes
> on
> > larger, safer vehicles forces consumers into smaller cars with higher
> > accident fatality rates.
> >
> > · H.B. 2575 will not conserve energy. Total gas consumption depends on
> > factors such as total miles traveled, the make-up of the overall vehicle
> > fleet and gasoline prices, NOT simply on new vehicle mileage standards.
> >
> > · H.B. 2575 will do little to improve air quality. Air quality has
more
> to
> > do with overall basic vehicle maintenance than it does with owning and
> > operating any particular class of vehicle.
> >
> > Protect vehicle choice in Arizona! Please contact members of the
Arizona
> > Legislature to oppose this legislation. If you need assistance in
> > determining who your legislators are, contact the Arizona Legislature's
> > General Information line: 602/542-4900. This information can also be
> > obtained by calling the SEMA Washington, D.C. office at 202/783-6007 or
> you
> > can access this information via the Internet at
> > http://www.enjoythedrive.com/legislative/contact_legislator.asp. Please
> fax
> > a copy of your letters to us at 202/783-6024 or mail to:
> >
> > SEMA Washington Office
> > 1317 F St., NW, Ste. 500
> > Washington, D.C. 20004
> > Attn: Steve McDonald/Brian Caudill
> >
>
>
44985 From: David Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Tue Mar 5, 2002 8:14am
Subject: since the first e-mail never went though: A huge Thanks to Randy
Randy and I installed new gears in my TJ. He did a great job and was amazingly knowledgeable about the whole process.
The work was pretty easy, just VERY TEDIOUS!
Another special thanks to Randy's wife for lunch and running and getting bearings.
For all who have doubted Randy, you really missed out.
For some reason I have less vibes now!!!
Thanks again Randy
David R. W. Withers
Desk: 480.551.4667
Mobile: 480.215.6992
44986 From: Nick <nnote@a...>
Date: Tue Mar 5, 2002 7:46am
Subject: Re: OT Trivia Beer Drinkers
The last cloves cleanup I attended, we came to the same conclusion. Funny you mention it. Ever notice no matter how remote you think you are you can always look down and see a beer can and a shotgun shell?
Nick
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Witt
To: AZVJC
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:01 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] OT Trivia Beer Drinkers
My local radio club here in the Heber/Overgaard area has it's mile of highway on state route 260 to keep clean, (Rim Country Amateur Radio Club Sponsorship). We usually do this three or four times a year.
Anyway, Of all the beer cans and bottles we pick up on every trip, it seems that Bud Light is America's favorite beer to drink and then throw the empty out the window. Consistently over the last 3 years, 90 to 98% of beer cans/bottles we pick up are Bud Light. As you drive down the trail, and pick up the empties you see, I would suspect that Bud Light is the hands down favorite or does drinking Bud Light make you stupid?
Bill W
K7ANT
97 TJ with a few mods.
http://k7ant.rockcrawler.com/
Up on the Mogollon Rim in God and 4 wheeler's country.
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
44987 From: Craig Micek <micekc@e...>
Date: Tue Mar 5, 2002 8:30am
Subject: Re: Almost back on the trails
Sounds great. Pics?
Craig
----- Original Message -----
From: "Siade, Randy" <randy.siade@u...>
To: "'azdd'" <azdd@yahoogroups.com>; "'azvjc'" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:18 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Almost back on the trails
> Well I am almost done again. Transfer case is rebuilt with 4:1 and HD
output
> shaft, I also clocked it up. I made a new cross member and shoved
everything
> up. This has netted me near 7" more ground clearance underneath. Since I
did
> all that my current rear driveline could not be used so I installed a
Currie
> HP 9" third member with a spool and 4:88 gears. This also helped my drive
> line angle. My U-joints went from 12.5 deg. to 7.5deg. My drive shaft went
> from 25deg angle to 15 deg angle. The only thing left to do is get the
rear
> drive shaft shortened by 1.5" and I am taking it in today. Should be ready
> to hit the trails by this weekend with a 133:1 crawl ratio!!
>
> Regards
> Randy Siade
> Engineering Manager
> Unisys Unigen Operations
> 6161 W. Erie Street
> Chandler, AZ 85226
> Phone 480 783-5911
> Fax 480 783-5960
> Cell 602-329-0699
> randy.siade@u...
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
44988 From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Tue Mar 5, 2002 8:35am
Subject: Re: Optima yellow $128
That seems like a damn good price!
Mike Baney
--- In az_vjc@y..., Mike & Karen Acuna <macunasprint@e...> wrote:
> Does anyone need a brand new Optima Yellow top for $128? If so,
check
> this out.
> Mike
44964 From: Eric Marble <emarble3@p...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 0:41pm
Subject: test
test
sorry about that
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44965 From: Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 0:16pm
Subject: test
test
=====
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44966 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 5:51pm
Subject: [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, March 9, 2002 - Reminder
Hello All,
is leading a Crown King from Lake Pleasant trail run on Saturday, March 9, 2002.
When: SAT. March 9th meet at SE corner of I-17 &; Carefree highway 9 am pull out 930
Where:
Rating: 3.0-
Length:
CB Channel: CH-4
The Lake Pleasang to Crown King trail is a local favorite. On any given weekend, there will be numerous groups of four wheelers, ATV's and motorcycles heading to and from Crown King. It is a fun and scenic trail into the cooler pines of the Bradshaws. This trail was the first trip ever done by AzVJC.
The trail takes off from the Castle Hotsprings Rd and travels through the foot hills and up the side of the mountain, giving nice views of Lake Pleasant and the Valley. There are some tougher optional sections that can make it interesting.
The trail goes through the old ghost towns of Fort Misery and Oro Belle, both of which are remnants of the Mining era of the Bradshaw Mountains. All that remains now, are foundations and a few crumbling walls. Fort Misery makes a nice place to stop and eat lunch as the small creek usually has running water and there are trees to provide shade.
In the winter months, the trail from Fort Misery through Oro Belle to Crown King will often have snow and/or ice. In the summer, an early start is necessary to stay ahead of the rising temperatures.
Once on top of the mountain, the trail runs through the cool pines and into Crown King. In Crown King there are places to eat and have a drink, and a general store that sells some excellent fudge. The old Crown King Saloon was actually built in Oro Belle, and later hauled up (many years ago) to Crown King and rebuilt. In Oro Belle, the saloon was built into the side of the hill, so the upstairs were mainly accessable from the rear of the building (at ground level). The upstairs served as a place repose for women of ill fame.
There are campgrounds on top of the mountain near Crown King for those wishing to stay overnight. The fastest way down is via the main road which leads through Cleator and toward Bumble Bee. You can split off and go through Cordes Junction, which will get you to the Freeway quicker, or keep going strait and go through the little town of Bumble Bee.
Alternatively, you can take the Senator Highway toward Prescott or Mayer, this can be a very interesting trail during snow season. If you have the time, follow Towers Mountain rd through Crown King and up to the top of Towers Mountain, there are some excellent views and you can join back up with the Senator Highway afterward.
Have fun, remember to bring water and your camera.
Enjoy, and remember to TREAD Lightly!
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
44967 From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
Date: Tue Mar 5, 2002 6:46am
Subject: ARB Locker?
Sorry if I'm re-hashing old ground,
I've surfed the net and the archives and not found answer to what I'm
looking for. I've heard that if you already have onboard air the ARB's are
not that pricey. Can anyone give me a ballpark figure for an arb minus the
compressor, minus the solenoid and plumbing, just what it needs to be
installed?
I come from Aus, so it wouldn't be too hard for me to get friends to buy
one and ship it over to south Korea at a value of $50, so I can diddle the
corrupt government out of their 20% import tax. The full kit over here
sells around US$900 not including installation. Is this a DIY'er?
Can anyone tell me about gearing? Does the ARB come with it, or does it
re-use the stock ring and pinion? Are there limits to how low you can gear
them?
Thanks.
Shaun
South Korea
44968 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 8:24pm
Subject: [FS] BLACK YJ HARD TOP AND FULL DOORS
Price:
Contact: GREEN65234@AOL.COM
BLACK HARD TOP W/ FULL WHITE HARD DOORS AND TINTED GLASS VERY GOOD SHAPE$1000. POSS. PART TRADE FOR SOFT TOP CURRENTLY ON A 90' YJ.
Perry Green
44969 From: David Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 0:26pm
Subject: Trails on the way to Vegas?
Are there any good trails on the way to Vegas. I know b4 the dam I have seen some dirt roads that look interesting, but is that it?
Please no Wickenburg trails
David R. W. Withers
Desk: 480.551.4667
Mobile: 480.215.6992
44970 From: Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 9:54am
Subject: TEST
=====
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44971 From: rick_logan2002 <rlogan@d...>
Date: Tue Mar 5, 2002 7:11am
Subject: 92 YJ
I have a 5in ProComp Coil Suspension but I would like to find another
coil susupension My friend has the Black Diamond on his YJ which has
a big front lifting problem doing obsticles. Now he has do some
modifcations. Black Diamond has some enginering problems
44972 From: <rlpii@q...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 5:09pm
Subject: Trip Report - Turkey Creek
Hey Jason,
I said I was SORRY! I promises I will never be a no-show
again :-(
Guess I know better than to stand you up :-)
Sounds like you guys had a great time. Sorry I missed it!
Bob
74 CJ-5
44973 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 6:00pm
Subject: [FS] D35 &D30 33s ON RIMS 3" BODY LIFT &MORE
Price:
Contact: GREEN65234@AOL.COM
GREAT SPARE PARTS FOR THE TRAIL. ALL PARTS OUT OF A 90' WRANGLER. BOTH AXLES ARE COMPLETE DISC TO DISC DRUM TO DRUM $100 EA OPEN DIFFs 3:55 GEARS. 3" BODY LIFT $35. 4 WORN YOKAHAMAS 33 X 12.5 ON BLACK STEEL RIMS 5 ON 5.5 $50. VACUUM HARNESS FOR FRONT AXLE NOT TO OLD $100 NEW $35. STOCK REAR DRIVE LINE $40.
Perry Green
44974 From: <SIMONLUKER@A...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 9:30am
Subject: QUIET
IT SURE IS A QUIET DAY IN THE AZVJC. IS EVERYBODY MAD AT EACH OTHER AFTER
LAST WEEK?
44975 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 10:28am
Subject: [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, March 9, 2002
Hello All,
is leading a Crown King from Lake Pleasant trail run on Saturday, March 9, 2002.
When: SAT. March 9th meet at SE corner of I-17 &; Carefree highway 9 am pull out 930
Where:
Rating: 3.0-
Length:
CB Channel: CH-4
The Lake Pleasang to Crown King trail is a local favorite. On any given weekend, there will be numerous groups of four wheelers, ATV's and motorcycles heading to and from Crown King. It is a fun and scenic trail into the cooler pines of the Bradshaws. This trail was the first trip ever done by AzVJC.
The trail takes off from the Castle Hotsprings Rd and travels through the foot hills and up the side of the mountain, giving nice views of Lake Pleasant and the Valley. There are some tougher optional sections that can make it interesting.
The trail goes through the old ghost towns of Fort Misery and Oro Belle, both of which are remnants of the Mining era of the Bradshaw Mountains. All that remains now, are foundations and a few crumbling walls. Fort Misery makes a nice place to stop and eat lunch as the small creek usually has running water and there are trees to provide shade.
In the winter months, the trail from Fort Misery through Oro Belle to Crown King will often have snow and/or ice. In the summer, an early start is necessary to stay ahead of the rising temperatures.
Once on top of the mountain, the trail runs through the cool pines and into Crown King. In Crown King there are places to eat and have a drink, and a general store that sells some excellent fudge. The old Crown King Saloon was actually built in Oro Belle, and later hauled up (many years ago) to Crown King and rebuilt. In Oro Belle, the saloon was built into the side of the hill, so the upstairs were mainly accessable from the rear of the building (at ground level). The upstairs served as a place repose for women of ill fame.
There are campgrounds on top of the mountain near Crown King for those wishing to stay overnight. The fastest way down is via the main road which leads through Cleator and toward Bumble Bee. You can split off and go through Cordes Junction, which will get you to the Freeway quicker, or keep going strait and go through the little town of Bumble Bee.
Alternatively, you can take the Senator Highway toward Prescott or Mayer, this can be a very interesting trail during snow season. If you have the time, follow Towers Mountain rd through Crown King and up to the top of Towers Mountain, there are some excellent views and you can join back up with the Senator Highway afterward.
Have fun, remember to bring water and your camera.
Enjoy, and remember to TREAD Lightly!
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
44976 From: Bill Witt <k7ant@t...>
Date: Tue Mar 5, 2002 7:26am
Subject: Re: OT Trivia Beer Drinkers
I don't know about hostility, but I do look at Bud Light drinkers differently now. Personally, I like Corona.
Bill W
K7ANT
97 TJ with a few mods.
http://k7ant.rockcrawler.com/
Up on the Mogollon Rim in God and 4 wheeler's country.
----- Original Message -----
From: DesertJeep
To: Bill Witt ; AZVJC
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 8:17 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] OT Trivia Beer Drinkers
Do I detect some hostility? IMO judging from the evidence (drinking and driving and/or littering) both. I think the government should spend some greeny given money to do a study on it.
Just my opinion.
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Witt [mailto:k7ant@therim.com]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:01 AM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] OT Trivia Beer Drinkers
My local radio club here in the Heber/Overgaard area has it's mile of highway on state route 260 to keep clean, (Rim Country Amateur Radio Club Sponsorship). We usually do this three or four times a year.
Anyway, Of all the beer cans and bottles we pick up on every trip, it seems that Bud Light is America's favorite beer to drink and then throw the empty out the window. Consistently over the last 3 years, 90 to 98% of beer cans/bottles we pick up are Bud Light. As you drive down the trail, and pick up the empties you see, I would suspect that Bud Light is the hands down favorite or does drinking Bud Light make you stupid?
Bill W
K7ANT
97 TJ with a few mods.
http://k7ant.rockcrawler.com/
Up on the Mogollon Rim in God and 4 wheeler's country.
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44977 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 9:15am
Subject: [FS] Gen. Steel Trail Rack for 97-02 Tj's
Price: $75 or Best offer
Contact: jason.laliberty@fairmont.com
Bought this and reinforced the gerry can holders. Have taken offroad with no problems holding 2 full cans.
visit
www.greenmachine.alloffroad.com for pictures under "fun in the sun" Several on the bottom of the page.
Jason LaLiberty
44978 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 4:29am
Subject: Test
test test test... blah blah
44979 From: Bill Witt <k7ant@t...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 10:24am
Subject: Tid bits
Where is everyone today? At work I suppose. Here's an interesting tid bit for those who don't have on board air or carry a co2 bottle. Found this on www.azrockcrawler.com
Chris does a real good job.
SPARE TIRE AIR TANK
Airing down your tires before heading off-road is one of the best things you can do to further increase your vehicles capabilities. By dropping your air pressure from 35 psi to 10 psi you greatly increase the contact patch of your tire and allow the tire to wrap around obstacles, not to mention it really smoothes out the ride on bumpy, wash boarded roads. For more serious rock crawling many people go even lower than 10 psi, I regularly run my tires at 5 psi as seen in the above picture. So your thinking great, a free way to increase my traction, what's the catch? When youre all done with the trail you'll want to air back up. Sometimes a gas station is close at hand, most of the times this isn't the case. Here's a cheap way to be able to add 10-15 psi of air to each tire quickly and without spending a lot of money. This setup uses your spare tire as an air tank. Simply fill your spare to 55-60 psi before you head out on the trail. When done you can use the hose shown below to transfer the air from the spare to your tires.
Parts
25ft of air hose (1/4" or 3/8" ID is fine)
2 tire spuds (usually 1/4 npt threads)
2 hose nipples
2 Hose clamps
Teflon Tape
Check out the site for further details
Bill W
K7ANT
97 TJ with a few mods.
http://k7ant.rockcrawler.com/
Up on the Mogollon Rim in God and 4 wheeler's country.
44980 From: jetowle2000 <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Mar 5, 2002 7:32am
Subject: Re: Almost back on the trails
Dang Randy, that thing was already about 3 feet off the ground, now
it is 3'7" :D .
Do you have any good drawings for the new crossmembers/tranny mount?
Did you use someones clocking adapter, or did you make one?
That Jeep should be perfect now.
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Siade, Randy" <randy.siade@u...> wrote:
> Well I am almost done again. Transfer case is rebuilt with 4:1 and
HD output
> shaft, I also clocked it up. I made a new cross member and shoved
everything
> up. This has netted me near 7" more ground clearance underneath.
Since I did
> all that my current rear driveline could not be used so I installed
a Currie
> HP 9" third member with a spool and 4:88 gears. This also helped my
drive
> line angle. My U-joints went from 12.5 deg. to 7.5deg. My drive
shaft went
> from 25deg angle to 15 deg angle. The only thing left to do is get
the rear
> drive shaft shortened by 1.5" and I am taking it in today. Should
be ready
> to hit the trails by this weekend with a 133:1 crawl ratio!!
>
> Regards
> Randy Siade
> Engineering Manager
> Unisys Unigen Operations
> 6161 W. Erie Street
> Chandler, AZ 85226
> Phone 480 783-5911
> Fax 480 783-5960
> Cell 602-329-0699
> randy.siade@u...
44981 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Mar 5, 2002 7:58am
Subject: Re: ?????????????
Seems like the listserver was dead for most of the day, but seems back up
now. An e-mail that I sent yesterday, just came across.
Cheers,
fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jayke Thorpe" <jeepboy_3@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 2:11 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] ?????????????
> Is this coming thru? I haven't seen any posts all
> day. If it is, can you e-mail me directly and let me
> know.
> Thanks...
> Jayke Thorpe
>
> =====
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>
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44982 From: Chris benner <offroadfun@t...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 7:59pm
Subject: 7 msgs
wow only 7 msgs for 3/4/02, is something broken?
44983 From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Tue Mar 5, 2002 8:06am
Subject: Re: OT Trivia Beer Drinkers
Bud Light is prob one of the best selling beers, I can't stand it
though. Not to sound like an ***, but I think that most people who
drink bud light are the more irresponsible ones, who throw the cans
out the window. So, to answer your question, yes, drinking Bud Light
makes you stupid!!!! ;)
Mike Baney
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Bill Witt" <k7ant@t...> wrote:
> My local radio club here in the Heber/Overgaard area has it's mile
of highway on state route 260 to keep clean, (Rim Country Amateur
Radio Club Sponsorship). We usually do this three or four times a
year.
> Anyway, Of all the beer cans and bottles we pick up on every trip,
it seems that Bud Light is America's favorite beer to drink and then
throw the empty out the window. Consistently over the last 3 years,
90 to 98% of beer cans/bottles we pick up are Bud Light. As you drive
down the trail, and pick up the empties you see, I would suspect that
Bud Light is the hands down favorite or does drinking Bud Light make
you stupid?
> Bill W
> K7ANT
> 97 TJ with a few mods.
> http://k7ant.rockcrawler.com/
> Up on the Mogollon Rim in God and 4 wheeler's country.
44984 From: Gary MacLaren <gmaclaren@c...>
Date: Mon Mar 4, 2002 9:42am
Subject: Fw: SEMA Action Network Legislative Alert - Arizona Considers Legislation to Tax "Gas Guzzlers"
Fellow Four Wheelers;
Time to let our state legislators know how we feel about this bill.
BCNU,
Brad
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carla Boucher" <ccboucher@c...>
To: "Arizona State Assoc. of 4WD Clubs" <asa4wdc@a...>
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:16 AM
Subject: Fw: SEMA Action Network Legislative Alert - Arizona Considers
Legislation to Tax "Gas Guzzlers"
> The following message is from our friends at SEMA. If your association is
> on the SAN e-mail list for SEMA I apologize for duplicating this message.
>
> Thanks
> Carla
>
> Carla Boucher, Attorney
> United Four Wheel Drive Associations
> P.O. Box 15696
> Chesapeake, VA 23328
> (757) 482-4474
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Caudill" <brianc@s...>
> To: <brianc@s...>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 4:07 PM
> Subject: SEMA Action Network Legislative Alert - Arizona Considers
> Legislation to Tax "Gas Guzzlers"
>
>
> > LEGISLATIVE ALERT
> >
> > Arizona Considers Taxing "Gas Guzzlers"
> >
> > In a misguided attempt to reduce dependence on foreign oil and improve
air
> > quality, legislation has been introduced in the Arizona House of
> > Representatives (H.B. 2575) to tax vehicles up to $600 each registration
> > year based upon their fuel economy (the lower the gas mileage, the
higher
> > the tax). If these efforts are successful, the effects on your ability
to
> > purchase the vehicle of your choice, not to mention vehicle safety, will
> be
> > dramatic.
> >
> > Contact Your Arizona State Legislators To Oppose Taxing Vehicles Based
> Upon
> > Fuel Efficiency
> >
> >
> > · H.B. 2575 will limit consumer choice in purchasing vehicles by making
> > popular performance and luxury cars, as well as SUVs, light trucks and
> > minivans, substantially more expensive to own.
> >
> > · H. 2575 will lead to more deaths on Arizona's highways as higher
taxes
> on
> > larger, safer vehicles forces consumers into smaller cars with higher
> > accident fatality rates.
> >
> > · H.B. 2575 will not conserve energy. Total gas consumption depends on
> > factors such as total miles traveled, the make-up of the overall vehicle
> > fleet and gasoline prices, NOT simply on new vehicle mileage standards.
> >
> > · H.B. 2575 will do little to improve air quality. Air quality has
more
> to
> > do with overall basic vehicle maintenance than it does with owning and
> > operating any particular class of vehicle.
> >
> > Protect vehicle choice in Arizona! Please contact members of the
Arizona
> > Legislature to oppose this legislation. If you need assistance in
> > determining who your legislators are, contact the Arizona Legislature's
> > General Information line: 602/542-4900. This information can also be
> > obtained by calling the SEMA Washington, D.C. office at 202/783-6007 or
> you
> > can access this information via the Internet at
> > http://www.enjoythedrive.com/legislative/contact_legislator.asp. Please
> fax
> > a copy of your letters to us at 202/783-6024 or mail to:
> >
> > SEMA Washington Office
> > 1317 F St., NW, Ste. 500
> > Washington, D.C. 20004
> > Attn: Steve McDonald/Brian Caudill
> >
>
>
44985 From: David Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Tue Mar 5, 2002 8:14am
Subject: since the first e-mail never went though: A huge Thanks to Randy
Randy and I installed new gears in my TJ. He did a great job and was amazingly knowledgeable about the whole process.
The work was pretty easy, just VERY TEDIOUS!
Another special thanks to Randy's wife for lunch and running and getting bearings.
For all who have doubted Randy, you really missed out.
For some reason I have less vibes now!!!
Thanks again Randy
David R. W. Withers
Desk: 480.551.4667
Mobile: 480.215.6992
44986 From: Nick <nnote@a...>
Date: Tue Mar 5, 2002 7:46am
Subject: Re: OT Trivia Beer Drinkers
The last cloves cleanup I attended, we came to the same conclusion. Funny you mention it. Ever notice no matter how remote you think you are you can always look down and see a beer can and a shotgun shell?
Nick
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Witt
To: AZVJC
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:01 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] OT Trivia Beer Drinkers
My local radio club here in the Heber/Overgaard area has it's mile of highway on state route 260 to keep clean, (Rim Country Amateur Radio Club Sponsorship). We usually do this three or four times a year.
Anyway, Of all the beer cans and bottles we pick up on every trip, it seems that Bud Light is America's favorite beer to drink and then throw the empty out the window. Consistently over the last 3 years, 90 to 98% of beer cans/bottles we pick up are Bud Light. As you drive down the trail, and pick up the empties you see, I would suspect that Bud Light is the hands down favorite or does drinking Bud Light make you stupid?
Bill W
K7ANT
97 TJ with a few mods.
http://k7ant.rockcrawler.com/
Up on the Mogollon Rim in God and 4 wheeler's country.
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
44987 From: Craig Micek <micekc@e...>
Date: Tue Mar 5, 2002 8:30am
Subject: Re: Almost back on the trails
Sounds great. Pics?
Craig
----- Original Message -----
From: "Siade, Randy" <randy.siade@u...>
To: "'azdd'" <azdd@yahoogroups.com>; "'azvjc'" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:18 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Almost back on the trails
> Well I am almost done again. Transfer case is rebuilt with 4:1 and HD
output
> shaft, I also clocked it up. I made a new cross member and shoved
everything
> up. This has netted me near 7" more ground clearance underneath. Since I
did
> all that my current rear driveline could not be used so I installed a
Currie
> HP 9" third member with a spool and 4:88 gears. This also helped my drive
> line angle. My U-joints went from 12.5 deg. to 7.5deg. My drive shaft went
> from 25deg angle to 15 deg angle. The only thing left to do is get the
rear
> drive shaft shortened by 1.5" and I am taking it in today. Should be ready
> to hit the trails by this weekend with a 133:1 crawl ratio!!
>
> Regards
> Randy Siade
> Engineering Manager
> Unisys Unigen Operations
> 6161 W. Erie Street
> Chandler, AZ 85226
> Phone 480 783-5911
> Fax 480 783-5960
> Cell 602-329-0699
> randy.siade@u...
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
44988 From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Tue Mar 5, 2002 8:35am
Subject: Re: Optima yellow $128
That seems like a damn good price!
Mike Baney
--- In az_vjc@y..., Mike & Karen Acuna <macunasprint@e...> wrote:
> Does anyone need a brand new Optima Yellow top for $128? If so,
check
> this out.
> Mike