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44762 From: Clint Ramsey <cwramsey@t...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 5:07pm
Subject: RE: rock stacking
Hey Nick that reminds me of the powerline run
Clint
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From: sentto-1011514-37608-1015027609-cwramsey=theriver.com@returns.groups.yahoo.com [mailto:sentto-1011514-37608-1015027609-cwramsey=theriver.com@returns.groups.yahoo.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Karen Acuna
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 5:10 PM
To: AZVJC AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] rock stacking
We always take our own rocks with us to stack our way through.....LOL. Just kidding, we went and played around on Gilamonster and gathered up some rocks for the front yard.
Mike
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44763 From: J & P Visic <jpvisic@n...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 6:32pm
Subject: Re: Organized Clubs
Bob,
Very informative post. I checked out the ASA website, reviewed the bylaws,
printed the form, and will send the check. Thanks for the info.
John Visic
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From: "ROBERT NYBERG" <r.nyberg@w...>
To: "AZVJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 8:19 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Organized Clubs
> I have been reading along with the posts on organizing and I just wanted
> to clarify a few things. First, just so you know, I am a member of an
> organized club and a member of the ASA4WDC. I am also the Editor of both
> and the Membership Chairman for ASA4WDC. There are NO plans to
> discontinue the Individual memberships!
>
> I have met some of you on the trail and at the Hunter party. I hope to
> meet more of you in the future. I have been a member of AZVJC for a few
> years and I think this is a great bunch of people.
>
> Budget wise, the ASA has a very small budget with only one fund raising
> event a year. The Jamboree in October. This is where most of the money
> to fight land closures, pay for required insurance, publish the Wheel
> Dust newsletter to inform all of what is happening in the off highway
> world, pay for the land permits ETC. Individual memberships are
> important. Every little bit helps keep the trails open. When you send in
> the 25.00 for membership ( less than the cost of your smallest upgrade )
> you become a member of UNITED also. 10.00 goes to united, 5.00 goes to
> mail you your packet with stickers, patch, dash plaque, membership card,
> Wheel Dust and more. That doesn't leave much for ASA but every little
> bit helps. I know several of you are individual members and several more
> are members through clubs. Having the Wheel Dust mailing list keeps me
> up on this. Out of the 1000 to 1500 AZVJC members how many ASA members
> do you think there are? Not very many. Please, if you don't want to
> organize that's fine I can see both sides so will keep my opinions out
> of it, join the ASA and help keep the trails open. Come to the Jamboree
> in October and have some fun and meet new folks. I know many of you say
> the registration fee is too high. It is only that much to pay for the
> BLM permits, extra insurance required for non ASA members, and all the
> other costs such as tents, J johns etc. This is 100% volunteer run by
> many folks spending countless hours to make it happen. Many AZVJC
> members also help with the event as trail leaders, Tech inspection and
> other duties. Thank you. OK enough of that, I am passionate about this
> but I don't want to be pushy.
>
> The ASLD permits are another subject. ASA negotiated with ASLD to get
> the group permits for club runs and functions. This was to save the
> members a little money and keep things legal. I and most of the other
> club members have our own permit on top of this as we need it for non
> club trips, horse back riding etc. Here is an article from the last
> wheel dust--
>
> In recent years, the ASA4WDC has been increasingly using State Trust
> Lands for the Annual Jamboree and other events. In addition, many of our
> clubs and members have traditionally used the State Trust Lands, (often
> without permits,) in years gone by. However, we have in place a
> permitting system that covers our association and the affiliated clubs
> for their events and four wheeling trips. Here is a summary of that
> system and how it enables us to use State Trust Lands.
> To start with, we must remember that the US Congress transferred a
> large portion of Arizona lands from the federal ownership to the Arizona
> State Land Trust, to be sold or employed for the maximum benefit of the
> Trustees of the State of Arizona. This transfer was at the time of
> statehood, in 1912. The primary beneficiary of the sale or lease of the
> Trust Lands is the education fund of the State. Theoretically, in a
> zillion years, all the land would be sold at auction to developers or
> conservation organizations and the Arizona State Trust lands would be
> gone. In the meantime, the lands are held in trust until they are deemed
> eligible for auction in open sale. During this time, much of the land is
> leased to ranchers or to mining operations and the proceeds go into the
> Trust Funds, eventually to education.
> The State Trust Lands are only available to the general public under a
> permitting system or by licensed hunters or anglers actively hunting or
> fishing (just carrying a gun or rod in the vehicle is not enough). The
> individual permits are $15 annually, (one year from date of sale) or $20
> for a family permit. These permits can be purchased at the State Land
> Department offices around the state, Four Wheelers Supply in Phoenix,
> from Sandee McCullen 480-832-8132 and at the Public Land Information
> Center (PLIC) at Central and Van Buren in Phoenix. These General Use
> permits entitle the permittee to camp (seven day limit), ride ATV's or
> otherwise use State Trust Lands under the general rules of the permit.
> However, the Arizona State Land Department and the ASA4WDC have
> developed a permitting system to serve our membership clubs and for
> ASA4WDC events that are held on State Trust lands. For $50 annually, the
> ASA4WDC is granted a permit for ASA functions. For an additional $50
> annually per club (paid out of the Association's general fund), all our
> affiliated clubs and members are permittees. These permits are issued
> under very specific conditions and rules. These are:
> A. The permit is only valid for organized club-approved events or trips.
> Pre-runs or scouting trips are also permitted, but the trip must be
> sanctioned by the club.
> B. All the members of the club should carry a copy of the permit with
> them (just put it in the glove compartment of your vehicle). The number
> of the permit is also on the membership card issued to all members by
> the ASA4WDC each year.
> C. The permit is only valid for club event/trip use. If you are carrying
> passengers or goods for pay, you must have a commercial permit from the
> State Land Department. Those permits are not available through the
> ASA4WDC.
> D. Guests of your club (or in your vehicle) are covered under the club
> permit when on club sanctioned runs. Guests are limited to two trips;
> they must join the club to continue to enjoy the benefits of the club
> permit.
> E. This is a special class of permit which has been negotiated with the
> Arizona State Land Department. It's intended use is for Four Wheeling
> only, by Association clubs and their members. It is not for other
> purposes and is not your personal general use permit. The permits are
> subject to revocation if we violate the rules.
>
> Some examples:
> 1. My family wants to camp out and quail hunt on State Trust Lands
> (STL), for the weekend.
> This is a permitted use under the Arizona State Game and Fish hunting
> license.
> 2. We want to ride our ATV's, picnic and do a little family four
> wheelin' on STL.
> You will need a family permit, available for $20 at the above mentioned
> places. Your ASA4WDC permit is not valid for this activity.
> 3. A couple guys from the club call a wildcat run for the next day and
> invite me, but it isn't a club run.
> If you all have individual or family permits, it's OK. Otherwise, you
> would be trespassing on STL. The ASA4WDC permit is only for official
> club runs.
> Finally, people that use State Trust Lands without a permit are
> trespassing and subject to prosecution.
>
> Brad Jones
> Land Use and Conservation
> ASA4WDC
>
>
> I hope this will clear up any misconceptions about the permits.
>
> I am sorry if I took up too much space with this post but wanted to
> clear up some things. If you want any information about ASA Please go to
> the web site asa4wdc.org and if you don't find it there, email me and I
> will do my best to get it for you. You may now beat on me as you desire.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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44764 From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 6:25pm
Subject: installing a new rear?
The drums on my stock rear end (a dana 44) are pretty much screwed and it's
got a lot of miles on it. I froze the diff over the last winter after
filling it up with water. Last week I got a killer deal on a rear, the
whole lot axles, brakes, diff etc, fully assembled and brand new from the
factory with seals still on it; US$150.
This rear is the wide track version, it's 2" wider than stock. Am I going
to have any problems running a wider rear with a stock front? Is there
anything I should change while I'm down there? I'm going to change my
Bushings over to poly while I've got the springs off, is there anything
else worth changing? Should I go with new U-joints? They don't have any
play in them, but they're pretty high mile (about 150,000 miles). Any
other tips for installing a new rear? I'm hoping to get it done on Sunday....
Thanks,
Shaun
South Korea
44765 From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 6:25pm
Subject: turning brakes?Baja Fleg?
Has anyone out there installed turning brakes in their rig? I'd like to
install some and have an opportunity to buy some from the states; one of my
students will be there next week for 5 days or so. I've combed the web,
but I'm obviously looking in the wrong places, the only thing I've found is
catalogs.
Has anyone put turning brakes in their rig? I've got power brakes, nothing
special, no ABS, only drum on the rear. I'm looking at the hydraulic style
turning brakes and I've got some questions;
Does any turning brake work with any rig? Am I likely to have trouble
getting this sucker to work?
I've only seen Jamar and CNC models, which of the 2 is better? Jamar seems
more common.
Is a single or dual lever preferred generally? I am totally in favor of a
single upright lever, however if someone can point out an advantage of a
dual lever or flat lever setup I'd be willing to consider it.
Am I likely to have problems with plumbing? Do I need special
hoses/fittings? I'll have to buy them at the same time with no chance to
go back later and buy more since I live in South Korea.
Do these things cause any problems with normal on-road braking?
Thanks again, and I'd appreciate a speedy reply........ my student will
only be there from monday to Friday and I'll have to have it delivered to
her by then....
Shaun
South Korea
44766 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 6:58pm
Subject: RE: Harquahala Peak
The last time I ran it, it had a couple hundred yards of concrete poured on a section of it that I assume was considered to be a high erosion area.
This might help:
http://www.stu-offroad.com/harq/harq-1.htm
Timber Chucker!
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris benner [mailto:offroadfun@thejeepfiles.com]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 5:47 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Harquahala Peak
Didn't someone say a while ago that the harquahala peak trail was paved all the way to top? I'd like to run it, but not if its paved.
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44767 From: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 7:11pm
Subject: New poll for az_vjc
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
az_vjc group:
Are you a member of another Arizona 4x4
Club which is affiliated with the
ASA4WDC and United?
o Yes
o No
o I'm still looking for one I like
o No Way!
To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/az_vjc/polls
Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.
Thanks!
44768 From: joeldavid_m <joeldavid_m@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 7:22pm
Subject: Re: Land use permits............
I was just at the iternational sportsmans expo at the fair
grounds. If you plan to go there this weekend azsld is there and
you can get your permit, as well as ask any Questions you might
have.
Joel M
--- In az_vjc@y..., "jetowle2000" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
>
> This a cut from a Stu email I recieved 4/08/01:
> ------------------
> Call 602-364-2753 to leave your name and address and they will
mail
> you a
> permit application. Or....stop by 1616 W. Adams in Phoenix and
pick
> one up
> on the spot.
>
> The cost is $15 for an individual and $20 for a family. Either one
is
> less
> than a tank of gas for your Jeep! (Even those small tanks!)
>
> Thanks.......Stu
> ----------------
>
> It's funny how I save the important stuff.
>
> --James
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Beckham, Michael" <Michael.Beckham@b...>
wrote:
> > Where would I contact someone (official) about a family permit?
E-
> mail?
44769 From: red_9inchtj <red_9inchtj@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 7:31pm
Subject: Best Tera Flex Prices?
Hey just curious who has the best prices on tera flex stuff. Thanks
in advance for any help.
Mark Folsom
44770 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 7:40pm
Subject: Re: Best Tera Flex Prices?
Mepco (owned by one of the Tera guys) 801-561-3299
Doug
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From: "red_9inchtj" <red_9inchtj@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 8:31 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Best Tera Flex Prices?
> Hey just curious who has the best prices on tera flex stuff. Thanks
> in advance for any help.
>
> Mark Folsom
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
44771 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 7:44pm
Subject: Re: installing a new rear?
You could run it with rear rims with more b/s to bring them in a bit. Only
problem would be with a spare, but in a pinch, your spare (with the normal
b/s) would just stick out temporarily.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "imagineero" <imagineero@x...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 7:25 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] installing a new rear?
> The drums on my stock rear end (a dana 44) are pretty much screwed and
it's
> got a lot of miles on it. I froze the diff over the last winter after
> filling it up with water. Last week I got a killer deal on a rear, the
> whole lot axles, brakes, diff etc, fully assembled and brand new from the
> factory with seals still on it; US$150.
>
>
> This rear is the wide track version, it's 2" wider than stock. Am I going
> to have any problems running a wider rear with a stock front? Is there
> anything I should change while I'm down there? I'm going to change my
> Bushings over to poly while I've got the springs off, is there anything
> else worth changing? Should I go with new U-joints? They don't have any
> play in them, but they're pretty high mile (about 150,000 miles). Any
> other tips for installing a new rear? I'm hoping to get it done on
Sunday....
>
>
> Thanks,
> Shaun
> South Korea
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
44772 From: Mike Wixom <h8pvmnt@h...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 7:48pm
Subject: Re: windshield hinges - club thoughts
I had the same problem on my CJ, I used screw extractors on the windshield hinge bolts to get them out. They are available at home depot. They will require you to drill the bolt head in order to get the extractor to bite into the bolt. Be careful not to break the extractor since it is much harder than the drill bits and will be nearly impossible to remove.
Mike Wixom
85 CJ - 7
----- Original Message -----
From: Reid Scholes
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:32 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] windshield hinges - club thoughts
When I purchased my '89 wrangler it came with chrome winshield hinges and many other goodies that needed to be added. I'm having a problem removing some of the bolts on the old hinges. Some were a snap to get out, but others are a PITA. I've soaked all of them with penatrating oil and have used a punch (3/8" dive that turns when hit with a BFH). A few of the bolts turn but won't come out. Others won't even budge. I'm getting close to taking the jeep to a 4x4 shop to see if they can work some magic. Drilling them out seems risky. Any thoughts? Thanks.
Side Note: I've been a lurker for the past six months or so. As I get more experience with all aspects of jeeping I feel I will be able to post informed replys to others questions. To me, this is a great club with many unique people who have a lot to share and are sometimes very opinionated. People are correct when they say, "you get out of it what you put in to it". I believe this club is strong due to its original ideas and founding principles. Why try to be like everybody else?
Reid
'89YJ
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44773 From: this_chix_tj <this_chix_tj@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 7:51pm
Subject: Many questions about mods
I bought my TJ over a year ago with a 6" Skyjacker lift already on
it. At present, I have no lockers...no spare tire carrier...(I have
35's)...no special gearing...nothing more than a stock Dana 35. Can
anyone walk me through the modification process? Tell me the pros
and cons of replacing my Dana 35 with a 44 or just doing a mod on the
35? And as far as lockers...I know this is an age-old question...but
what would you all suggest? I am starting at ground zero...I'd like
as much input as I can possibly get. I have no knowledge and I'm
wanting to learn. Someone willing to show me how to proceed would be
a big plus.
Kris & Nick
99 TJ
44774 From: Steve Meyer <steve.j.meyer@c...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 7:53pm
Subject: RE: installing a new rear?
I would say that you are not even going to notice an inch difference on both
sides.
--Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: imagineero [mailto:imagineero@x...]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 7:25 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] installing a new rear?
The drums on my stock rear end (a dana 44) are pretty much screwed and it's
got a lot of miles on it. I froze the diff over the last winter after
filling it up with water. Last week I got a killer deal on a rear, the
whole lot axles, brakes, diff etc, fully assembled and brand new from the
factory with seals still on it; US$150.
This rear is the wide track version, it's 2" wider than stock. Am I going
to have any problems running a wider rear with a stock front? Is there
anything I should change while I'm down there? I'm going to change my
Bushings over to poly while I've got the springs off, is there anything
else worth changing? Should I go with new U-joints? They don't have any
play in them, but they're pretty high mile (about 150,000 miles). Any
other tips for installing a new rear? I'm hoping to get it done on
Sunday....
Thanks,
Shaun
South Korea
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44775 From: Steve Meyer <steve.j.meyer@c...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 8:06pm
Subject: RE: Many questions about mods
Hi there,
Well, how hard are you going to wheel. I think if you ask many people
around here you will find that their Dana 35's eventually give up the
ghost....especially with 35" tires. I ran 35" tires for two years with no
lockers and stock axles...had no problems. But the stresses get much
greater when you start using lockers. Many people continue to have good
luck with their TJ Dana 30's...most likely due to the Dana 44 sized
u-joints.
As far as the spare tire carrier...the weight of that 35" spare (assuming
you have a full size spare) will quickly destroy the original tire carrier
and weaken the tailgate. Some sort of aftermarket setup is definitely
advised.
The lockers you choose depend on how picky you are about on road driving
habits. I prefer a Detroit in the rear and a lockright up front. This does
change the way the vehicle drives quite a bit, but the offroad capabilities
outway the negatives in my mind...and they really aren't that bad. ARB's
and OX lockers allow people to only engage them when needed...but can
sometimes be problematic (air lines and such).
For gears... 4.56 should be a decent gear ratio to match your tire size
(given that you are running the stock tranny and t-case). This would pretty
much bring you back into the range of stock ratio. But, since you probably
have overdrive (5th gear if manual tranny) you may want to bump up one more
to 4.88 for a bit more uumph.
One peice of advice. Try to avoid incrementalism. Think about what you
might be doing with your Jeep 5 years down the road and build it for that.
It may cost a bit more up front...but saves you a bunch in the end.
--Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: this_chix_tj [mailto:this_chix_tj@y...]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 8:51 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Many questions about mods
I bought my TJ over a year ago with a 6" Skyjacker lift already on
it. At present, I have no lockers...no spare tire carrier...(I have
35's)...no special gearing...nothing more than a stock Dana 35. Can
anyone walk me through the modification process? Tell me the pros
and cons of replacing my Dana 35 with a 44 or just doing a mod on the
35? And as far as lockers...I know this is an age-old question...but
what would you all suggest? I am starting at ground zero...I'd like
as much input as I can possibly get. I have no knowledge and I'm
wanting to learn. Someone willing to show me how to proceed would be
a big plus.
Kris & Nick
99 TJ
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44776 From: Bill Witt <k7ant@t...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 8:41pm
Subject: Re: Belated thanks to Rob for Broken Arrow
Kris, Glad you had fun. Broken Arrow is a good place to start. Nice to read
your post will all that's going on this weekend.
Bill W
K7ANT
97 TJ with a few mods.
http://k7ant.rockcrawler.com/
Up on the Mogollon Rim in God and 4 wheeler's country.
----- Original Message -----
From: "this_chix_tj" <this_chix_tj@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:09 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Belated thanks to Rob for Broken Arrow
> I just wanted to publicly thank Rob Williams for having the patience
> and tenacity to take this totally unprepared mom and her son to do
> Broken Arrow a few weeks ago. And without too many eye rolls, at
> least that I caught. He explained things...gave his opinion...tons
> of tips...(he's always thinking of ways to do things easier, it
> seems)...and gave me the room to do the trail. I know Broken Arrow
> isn't difficult...but when you've never done anything like Devil's
> Staircase and you're in your Jeep looking down at it, knowing it's
> your turn next...well that's the sort of thing that used to make me
> hyperventilate. I started that way...but as we inched down the
> rocks...I relaxed a bit...and by the time we were to the bottom, I
> had this incredible feeling that I'd never experienced before. I
> wasn't afraid anymore...and that had a lot to do with it. That I had
> sought someone out...done this on my own...with my boy at my
> side...that was enough. But I also got just a hint of what it is you
> all love so much about going out every weekend. And if there's more
> of that to come...you'd better bet we'll be there. Thanks for
> providing a forum in which I've been able to learn a bit from the
> posts, and thanks to everyone that's offered to help me in any way.
> I look forward to meeting many of you!
>
> Kris
> 99 TJ
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
44777 From: mike hudson <mikereid2@e...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 8:19pm
Subject: windsheild hinges
just dealt with this problem on my 89 wrangler. The reason they spin is
because these are just bolts with nuts (not screwed into the body). the
nuts are partially hidden in the spray on foam insulation (it's painted
the color of the tub) behind the dash. I drilled off the heads and
punched the remaining portion of the screw, still threaded into the nut,
through the foam insulation, with a hammer and punch. It's to much of a
pain to try and scrape the foam off the nuts so you can hold them with a
wrench.
good luck,
mike
44778 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 8:45pm
Subject: Re: Best Tera Flex Prices?
Try:
Bob Suplee
405-799-8977
supplee@i...
or
DC Offroad
540-890-3335
donaldii@b...
DC usually is very busy. Leave him a message and he'll call you back or
just email him.
Chris K
On Friday, March 1, 2002, at 08:31 PM, red_9inchtj wrote:
> Hey just curious who has the best prices on tera flex stuff. Thanks
> in advance for any help.
>
> Mark Folsom
>
>
>
>
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> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
44779 From: azjetboy <azjetboy@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 8:49pm
Subject: Hardtop reair
Does anybody have experiance with hardtop/fibre glass repair? Also
does anybody have any hardtop hardware, parts, or a hardtop(TJ)
beyond repair that I could cannabalize from? One final question: we
as a club get a discount from Darner Jeep, right? How much? I would
appreciate any help on this.
Thanks
Chris Kahlert
'99 Jeep TJ
Probie@h...
44780 From: weasel_ugs <weaselugs@h...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 8:55pm
Subject: Re: Statistics Report for azvjc.org.
why does virginia have the highest traffic for an Arizona club? Don
> Breakdown of American Traffic by State
> Virginia, USA. with 6436 sessions. (25.83 % of
> traffic)
> California, USA. with 2970 sessions. (11.92 % of
> traffic)
> New York, USA. with 2231 sessions. (8.95 % of
> traffic)
> Arizona, USA. with 1195 sessions. (4.80 % of
44781 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 9:05pm
Subject: RE: Hardtop reair
Answers to your questions in the order you asked them:
Not me.
Not me.
I think so.
I don't know.
I didn't want you to think you were being ignored. This is why I usually
don't respond to many of the posts....I don't have answers worth posting.
So, this was kind of a show and tell for those that think I am ignoring them
on purpose. ;)
Timber Chucker!
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: azjetboy [mailto:azjetboy@y...]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 9:49 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Hardtop reair
Does anybody have experiance with hardtop/fibre glass repair? Also
does anybody have any hardtop hardware, parts, or a hardtop(TJ)
beyond repair that I could cannabalize from? One final question: we
as a club get a discount from Darner Jeep, right? How much? I would
appreciate any help on this.
Thanks
Chris Kahlert
'99 Jeep TJ
Probie@h...
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44782 From: g_rob_williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 9:08pm
Subject: Re: In dash MP3 player?
DON'T buy the Fosgate MP3 player!!!! I have it and when you play
regular CDs it skips like crazy on slightly rough roads... when
playing MP3s on a disc however I can pretty much play them on
washboard dirt roads with out a prob. -Rob
44783 From: paparoach85251 <lespaparoach@m...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 9:13pm
Subject: Re: Best Tera Flex Prices?
Mark,
Check out www.jeepersandcreepers.com. That's where I got my control
arms and they had the best prices around with free shipping and no
tax. Give them a call and ask for James. He is a great guy and really
knows his stuff.
Les
--- In az_vjc@y..., "red_9inchtj" <red_9inchtj@y...> wrote:
> Hey just curious who has the best prices on tera flex stuff. Thanks
> in advance for any help.
>
> Mark Folsom
44784 From: Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 9:18pm
Subject: RE: flat towing TJs with front lockers
Darren,
Flexy Joe @ Roosevelt Alignment is definitely the guy to see.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: darrenr@p... [mailto:darrenr@p...] On Behalf
Of Darren Richards
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 8:26 AM
To: Scott Kruize
Cc: joey@d...; AZ_VJC
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] flat towing TJs with front lockers
Well, I'm only guessing it's the caster angle that is causing the jeep
tires to turn the wrong way in a tight turn (like maneuvering in a
parking lot). But that's the only place I ever have a problem. I've
probably flat-towed the jeep about 4000 miles with no problems so far.
In fact, I'm trying to wear down the Dunlop All-terrains so I can get
something with a more aggressive tread, but they just refuse to wear
out!
If I were to get the caster angle checked out, where would be the best
place to take the Jeep? Is that a job for Roosevelt Alignment?
darren
Scott Kruize wrote:
>
> I once talked to an RV owner who had a caster problem on the TJ he was
> flat towing. He managed to wear the front tires down until they were
> completely flat in about 100 miles.
>
> I imagine its pretty tough to see or feel that happening behind a big
> diesel pusher.
>
> I'd get the caster taken care of before you tow it again.
>
> Scott K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DesertJeep [mailto:joey@d...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:36 AM
> To: Darren Richards; azcj; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] flat towing TJs with front lockers
>
> Well that's not good. If you don't fix the caster you should go to a
> trailer. Either the one that just carries the front tires or a full
> one. I have heard of people flat towing and tying down the steering so
> the wheels do not turn. What that does is fight the towing vehicle.
> Could end up wearing tires and putting stress on the hitch and tow
> bar. Just some observations. Joey K 93YJ www.desertjeep.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: darrenr@p... [mailto:darrenr@p...]On Behalf
> Of Darren Richards
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 8:37 AM
> To: azcj; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] flat towing TJs with front lockers
>
> I agree that if no torque is applied, an automatic locker should not
> lock around turns, and should not be noticable when flat-towing. I've
> got manual hubs on my Jeep, so it's not a problem either way. My
> problem is that I have longer shackles, which have messed up my caster
> angle. This causes my jeep tires to turn the *opposite* way in a
> tight turn when I'm flat towing. Not good...
>
> azcj wrote:
> >
> > A friend of mine wants to put lockers front and rear in his TJ. He
> > will be flat towing it behind his motorhome. He heard that some
> > lockers, Lockright specifically, tend to keep the wheels from going
> > back straight after a turn. Has anyone had this problem? He doesn't
> > want ARBs.
> >
> > Scott K, I know you have a non-ARB locker up front and flat tow,
> > have you noticed this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Scott E.
44785 From: steverino1112000 <steverino1112000@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 9:26pm
Subject: Re: Sunday trail runs?
FJ, I just put the new Holley off road carb on it. It will be a good
test. You want to go?
Nick
--- In az_vjc@y..., "jeepin_in_az" <jeepin_in_az@y...> wrote:
> you taking the FJ or TJ??
>
> Mike Baney
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "steverino1112000" <steverino1112000@y...>
wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone up for Axle Alley? I have not done it yet and do not know
> the
> > way but would be interested in going.
> >
> > Nick Smith
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "DougB" <azjeep@c...> wrote:
> > > I'm up for something out FJ way.
> > >
> > > Doug
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Roger Tomas" <tomasr@a...>
> > > To: <az_vjc@y...>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:34 AM
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Sunday trail runs?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Any 4.0 - 4.5 trail runs happening on Sunday?
> > > >
> > > > -Roger
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
44786 From: steverino1112000 <steverino1112000@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 9:28pm
Subject: Re: Sunday trail runs?
9- 9:30? Do you know the trail? I have not been there.
Nick
--- In az_vjc@y..., "DougB" <azjeep@c...> wrote:
> Sounds good to me. What time you thinking??
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "steverino1112000" <steverino1112000@y...>
> To: <az_vjc@y...>
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:56 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Sunday trail runs?
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone up for Axle Alley? I have not done it yet and do not know
the
> > way but would be interested in going.
> >
> > Nick Smith
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "DougB" <azjeep@c...> wrote:
> > > I'm up for something out FJ way.
> > >
> > > Doug
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Roger Tomas" <tomasr@a...>
> > > To: <az_vjc@y...>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:34 AM
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Sunday trail runs?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Any 4.0 - 4.5 trail runs happening on Sunday?
> > > >
> > > > -Roger
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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> >
> >
> >
44762 From: Clint Ramsey <cwramsey@t...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 5:07pm
Subject: RE: rock stacking
Hey Nick that reminds me of the powerline run
Clint
-----Original Message-----
From: sentto-1011514-37608-1015027609-cwramsey=theriver.com@returns.groups.yahoo.com [mailto:sentto-1011514-37608-1015027609-cwramsey=theriver.com@returns.groups.yahoo.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Karen Acuna
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 5:10 PM
To: AZVJC AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] rock stacking
We always take our own rocks with us to stack our way through.....LOL. Just kidding, we went and played around on Gilamonster and gathered up some rocks for the front yard.
Mike
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44763 From: J & P Visic <jpvisic@n...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 6:32pm
Subject: Re: Organized Clubs
Bob,
Very informative post. I checked out the ASA website, reviewed the bylaws,
printed the form, and will send the check. Thanks for the info.
John Visic
----- Original Message -----
From: "ROBERT NYBERG" <r.nyberg@w...>
To: "AZVJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 8:19 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Organized Clubs
> I have been reading along with the posts on organizing and I just wanted
> to clarify a few things. First, just so you know, I am a member of an
> organized club and a member of the ASA4WDC. I am also the Editor of both
> and the Membership Chairman for ASA4WDC. There are NO plans to
> discontinue the Individual memberships!
>
> I have met some of you on the trail and at the Hunter party. I hope to
> meet more of you in the future. I have been a member of AZVJC for a few
> years and I think this is a great bunch of people.
>
> Budget wise, the ASA has a very small budget with only one fund raising
> event a year. The Jamboree in October. This is where most of the money
> to fight land closures, pay for required insurance, publish the Wheel
> Dust newsletter to inform all of what is happening in the off highway
> world, pay for the land permits ETC. Individual memberships are
> important. Every little bit helps keep the trails open. When you send in
> the 25.00 for membership ( less than the cost of your smallest upgrade )
> you become a member of UNITED also. 10.00 goes to united, 5.00 goes to
> mail you your packet with stickers, patch, dash plaque, membership card,
> Wheel Dust and more. That doesn't leave much for ASA but every little
> bit helps. I know several of you are individual members and several more
> are members through clubs. Having the Wheel Dust mailing list keeps me
> up on this. Out of the 1000 to 1500 AZVJC members how many ASA members
> do you think there are? Not very many. Please, if you don't want to
> organize that's fine I can see both sides so will keep my opinions out
> of it, join the ASA and help keep the trails open. Come to the Jamboree
> in October and have some fun and meet new folks. I know many of you say
> the registration fee is too high. It is only that much to pay for the
> BLM permits, extra insurance required for non ASA members, and all the
> other costs such as tents, J johns etc. This is 100% volunteer run by
> many folks spending countless hours to make it happen. Many AZVJC
> members also help with the event as trail leaders, Tech inspection and
> other duties. Thank you. OK enough of that, I am passionate about this
> but I don't want to be pushy.
>
> The ASLD permits are another subject. ASA negotiated with ASLD to get
> the group permits for club runs and functions. This was to save the
> members a little money and keep things legal. I and most of the other
> club members have our own permit on top of this as we need it for non
> club trips, horse back riding etc. Here is an article from the last
> wheel dust--
>
> In recent years, the ASA4WDC has been increasingly using State Trust
> Lands for the Annual Jamboree and other events. In addition, many of our
> clubs and members have traditionally used the State Trust Lands, (often
> without permits,) in years gone by. However, we have in place a
> permitting system that covers our association and the affiliated clubs
> for their events and four wheeling trips. Here is a summary of that
> system and how it enables us to use State Trust Lands.
> To start with, we must remember that the US Congress transferred a
> large portion of Arizona lands from the federal ownership to the Arizona
> State Land Trust, to be sold or employed for the maximum benefit of the
> Trustees of the State of Arizona. This transfer was at the time of
> statehood, in 1912. The primary beneficiary of the sale or lease of the
> Trust Lands is the education fund of the State. Theoretically, in a
> zillion years, all the land would be sold at auction to developers or
> conservation organizations and the Arizona State Trust lands would be
> gone. In the meantime, the lands are held in trust until they are deemed
> eligible for auction in open sale. During this time, much of the land is
> leased to ranchers or to mining operations and the proceeds go into the
> Trust Funds, eventually to education.
> The State Trust Lands are only available to the general public under a
> permitting system or by licensed hunters or anglers actively hunting or
> fishing (just carrying a gun or rod in the vehicle is not enough). The
> individual permits are $15 annually, (one year from date of sale) or $20
> for a family permit. These permits can be purchased at the State Land
> Department offices around the state, Four Wheelers Supply in Phoenix,
> from Sandee McCullen 480-832-8132 and at the Public Land Information
> Center (PLIC) at Central and Van Buren in Phoenix. These General Use
> permits entitle the permittee to camp (seven day limit), ride ATV's or
> otherwise use State Trust Lands under the general rules of the permit.
> However, the Arizona State Land Department and the ASA4WDC have
> developed a permitting system to serve our membership clubs and for
> ASA4WDC events that are held on State Trust lands. For $50 annually, the
> ASA4WDC is granted a permit for ASA functions. For an additional $50
> annually per club (paid out of the Association's general fund), all our
> affiliated clubs and members are permittees. These permits are issued
> under very specific conditions and rules. These are:
> A. The permit is only valid for organized club-approved events or trips.
> Pre-runs or scouting trips are also permitted, but the trip must be
> sanctioned by the club.
> B. All the members of the club should carry a copy of the permit with
> them (just put it in the glove compartment of your vehicle). The number
> of the permit is also on the membership card issued to all members by
> the ASA4WDC each year.
> C. The permit is only valid for club event/trip use. If you are carrying
> passengers or goods for pay, you must have a commercial permit from the
> State Land Department. Those permits are not available through the
> ASA4WDC.
> D. Guests of your club (or in your vehicle) are covered under the club
> permit when on club sanctioned runs. Guests are limited to two trips;
> they must join the club to continue to enjoy the benefits of the club
> permit.
> E. This is a special class of permit which has been negotiated with the
> Arizona State Land Department. It's intended use is for Four Wheeling
> only, by Association clubs and their members. It is not for other
> purposes and is not your personal general use permit. The permits are
> subject to revocation if we violate the rules.
>
> Some examples:
> 1. My family wants to camp out and quail hunt on State Trust Lands
> (STL), for the weekend.
> This is a permitted use under the Arizona State Game and Fish hunting
> license.
> 2. We want to ride our ATV's, picnic and do a little family four
> wheelin' on STL.
> You will need a family permit, available for $20 at the above mentioned
> places. Your ASA4WDC permit is not valid for this activity.
> 3. A couple guys from the club call a wildcat run for the next day and
> invite me, but it isn't a club run.
> If you all have individual or family permits, it's OK. Otherwise, you
> would be trespassing on STL. The ASA4WDC permit is only for official
> club runs.
> Finally, people that use State Trust Lands without a permit are
> trespassing and subject to prosecution.
>
> Brad Jones
> Land Use and Conservation
> ASA4WDC
>
>
> I hope this will clear up any misconceptions about the permits.
>
> I am sorry if I took up too much space with this post but wanted to
> clear up some things. If you want any information about ASA Please go to
> the web site asa4wdc.org and if you don't find it there, email me and I
> will do my best to get it for you. You may now beat on me as you desire.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
44764 From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 6:25pm
Subject: installing a new rear?
The drums on my stock rear end (a dana 44) are pretty much screwed and it's
got a lot of miles on it. I froze the diff over the last winter after
filling it up with water. Last week I got a killer deal on a rear, the
whole lot axles, brakes, diff etc, fully assembled and brand new from the
factory with seals still on it; US$150.
This rear is the wide track version, it's 2" wider than stock. Am I going
to have any problems running a wider rear with a stock front? Is there
anything I should change while I'm down there? I'm going to change my
Bushings over to poly while I've got the springs off, is there anything
else worth changing? Should I go with new U-joints? They don't have any
play in them, but they're pretty high mile (about 150,000 miles). Any
other tips for installing a new rear? I'm hoping to get it done on Sunday....
Thanks,
Shaun
South Korea
44765 From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 6:25pm
Subject: turning brakes?Baja Fleg?
Has anyone out there installed turning brakes in their rig? I'd like to
install some and have an opportunity to buy some from the states; one of my
students will be there next week for 5 days or so. I've combed the web,
but I'm obviously looking in the wrong places, the only thing I've found is
catalogs.
Has anyone put turning brakes in their rig? I've got power brakes, nothing
special, no ABS, only drum on the rear. I'm looking at the hydraulic style
turning brakes and I've got some questions;
Does any turning brake work with any rig? Am I likely to have trouble
getting this sucker to work?
I've only seen Jamar and CNC models, which of the 2 is better? Jamar seems
more common.
Is a single or dual lever preferred generally? I am totally in favor of a
single upright lever, however if someone can point out an advantage of a
dual lever or flat lever setup I'd be willing to consider it.
Am I likely to have problems with plumbing? Do I need special
hoses/fittings? I'll have to buy them at the same time with no chance to
go back later and buy more since I live in South Korea.
Do these things cause any problems with normal on-road braking?
Thanks again, and I'd appreciate a speedy reply........ my student will
only be there from monday to Friday and I'll have to have it delivered to
her by then....
Shaun
South Korea
44766 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 6:58pm
Subject: RE: Harquahala Peak
The last time I ran it, it had a couple hundred yards of concrete poured on a section of it that I assume was considered to be a high erosion area.
This might help:
http://www.stu-offroad.com/harq/harq-1.htm
Timber Chucker!
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris benner [mailto:offroadfun@thejeepfiles.com]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 5:47 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Harquahala Peak
Didn't someone say a while ago that the harquahala peak trail was paved all the way to top? I'd like to run it, but not if its paved.
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44767 From: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 7:11pm
Subject: New poll for az_vjc
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
az_vjc group:
Are you a member of another Arizona 4x4
Club which is affiliated with the
ASA4WDC and United?
o Yes
o No
o I'm still looking for one I like
o No Way!
To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/az_vjc/polls
Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.
Thanks!
44768 From: joeldavid_m <joeldavid_m@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 7:22pm
Subject: Re: Land use permits............
I was just at the iternational sportsmans expo at the fair
grounds. If you plan to go there this weekend azsld is there and
you can get your permit, as well as ask any Questions you might
have.
Joel M
--- In az_vjc@y..., "jetowle2000" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
>
> This a cut from a Stu email I recieved 4/08/01:
> ------------------
> Call 602-364-2753 to leave your name and address and they will
> you a
> permit application. Or....stop by 1616 W. Adams in Phoenix and
pick
> one up
> on the spot.
>
> The cost is $15 for an individual and $20 for a family. Either one
is
> less
> than a tank of gas for your Jeep! (Even those small tanks!)
>
> Thanks.......Stu
> ----------------
>
> It's funny how I save the important stuff.
>
> --James
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Beckham, Michael" <Michael.Beckham@b...>
wrote:
> > Where would I contact someone (official) about a family permit?
E-
> mail?
44769 From: red_9inchtj <red_9inchtj@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 7:31pm
Subject: Best Tera Flex Prices?
Hey just curious who has the best prices on tera flex stuff. Thanks
in advance for any help.
Mark Folsom
44770 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 7:40pm
Subject: Re: Best Tera Flex Prices?
Mepco (owned by one of the Tera guys) 801-561-3299
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "red_9inchtj" <red_9inchtj@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 8:31 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Best Tera Flex Prices?
> Hey just curious who has the best prices on tera flex stuff. Thanks
> in advance for any help.
>
> Mark Folsom
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
44771 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 7:44pm
Subject: Re: installing a new rear?
You could run it with rear rims with more b/s to bring them in a bit. Only
problem would be with a spare, but in a pinch, your spare (with the normal
b/s) would just stick out temporarily.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "imagineero" <imagineero@x...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 7:25 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] installing a new rear?
> The drums on my stock rear end (a dana 44) are pretty much screwed and
it's
> got a lot of miles on it. I froze the diff over the last winter after
> filling it up with water. Last week I got a killer deal on a rear, the
> whole lot axles, brakes, diff etc, fully assembled and brand new from the
> factory with seals still on it; US$150.
>
>
> This rear is the wide track version, it's 2" wider than stock. Am I going
> to have any problems running a wider rear with a stock front? Is there
> anything I should change while I'm down there? I'm going to change my
> Bushings over to poly while I've got the springs off, is there anything
> else worth changing? Should I go with new U-joints? They don't have any
> play in them, but they're pretty high mile (about 150,000 miles). Any
> other tips for installing a new rear? I'm hoping to get it done on
Sunday....
>
>
> Thanks,
> Shaun
> South Korea
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
44772 From: Mike Wixom <h8pvmnt@h...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 7:48pm
Subject: Re: windshield hinges - club thoughts
I had the same problem on my CJ, I used screw extractors on the windshield hinge bolts to get them out. They are available at home depot. They will require you to drill the bolt head in order to get the extractor to bite into the bolt. Be careful not to break the extractor since it is much harder than the drill bits and will be nearly impossible to remove.
Mike Wixom
85 CJ - 7
----- Original Message -----
From: Reid Scholes
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:32 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] windshield hinges - club thoughts
When I purchased my '89 wrangler it came with chrome winshield hinges and many other goodies that needed to be added. I'm having a problem removing some of the bolts on the old hinges. Some were a snap to get out, but others are a PITA. I've soaked all of them with penatrating oil and have used a punch (3/8" dive that turns when hit with a BFH). A few of the bolts turn but won't come out. Others won't even budge. I'm getting close to taking the jeep to a 4x4 shop to see if they can work some magic. Drilling them out seems risky. Any thoughts? Thanks.
Side Note: I've been a lurker for the past six months or so. As I get more experience with all aspects of jeeping I feel I will be able to post informed replys to others questions. To me, this is a great club with many unique people who have a lot to share and are sometimes very opinionated. People are correct when they say, "you get out of it what you put in to it". I believe this club is strong due to its original ideas and founding principles. Why try to be like everybody else?
Reid
'89YJ
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44773 From: this_chix_tj <this_chix_tj@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 7:51pm
Subject: Many questions about mods
I bought my TJ over a year ago with a 6" Skyjacker lift already on
it. At present, I have no lockers...no spare tire carrier...(I have
35's)...no special gearing...nothing more than a stock Dana 35. Can
anyone walk me through the modification process? Tell me the pros
and cons of replacing my Dana 35 with a 44 or just doing a mod on the
35? And as far as lockers...I know this is an age-old question...but
what would you all suggest? I am starting at ground zero...I'd like
as much input as I can possibly get. I have no knowledge and I'm
wanting to learn. Someone willing to show me how to proceed would be
a big plus.
Kris & Nick
99 TJ
44774 From: Steve Meyer <steve.j.meyer@c...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 7:53pm
Subject: RE: installing a new rear?
I would say that you are not even going to notice an inch difference on both
sides.
--Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: imagineero [mailto:imagineero@x...]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 7:25 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] installing a new rear?
The drums on my stock rear end (a dana 44) are pretty much screwed and it's
got a lot of miles on it. I froze the diff over the last winter after
filling it up with water. Last week I got a killer deal on a rear, the
whole lot axles, brakes, diff etc, fully assembled and brand new from the
factory with seals still on it; US$150.
This rear is the wide track version, it's 2" wider than stock. Am I going
to have any problems running a wider rear with a stock front? Is there
anything I should change while I'm down there? I'm going to change my
Bushings over to poly while I've got the springs off, is there anything
else worth changing? Should I go with new U-joints? They don't have any
play in them, but they're pretty high mile (about 150,000 miles). Any
other tips for installing a new rear? I'm hoping to get it done on
Sunday....
Thanks,
Shaun
South Korea
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44775 From: Steve Meyer <steve.j.meyer@c...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 8:06pm
Subject: RE: Many questions about mods
Hi there,
Well, how hard are you going to wheel. I think if you ask many people
around here you will find that their Dana 35's eventually give up the
ghost....especially with 35" tires. I ran 35" tires for two years with no
lockers and stock axles...had no problems. But the stresses get much
greater when you start using lockers. Many people continue to have good
luck with their TJ Dana 30's...most likely due to the Dana 44 sized
u-joints.
As far as the spare tire carrier...the weight of that 35" spare (assuming
you have a full size spare) will quickly destroy the original tire carrier
and weaken the tailgate. Some sort of aftermarket setup is definitely
advised.
The lockers you choose depend on how picky you are about on road driving
habits. I prefer a Detroit in the rear and a lockright up front. This does
change the way the vehicle drives quite a bit, but the offroad capabilities
outway the negatives in my mind...and they really aren't that bad. ARB's
and OX lockers allow people to only engage them when needed...but can
sometimes be problematic (air lines and such).
For gears... 4.56 should be a decent gear ratio to match your tire size
(given that you are running the stock tranny and t-case). This would pretty
much bring you back into the range of stock ratio. But, since you probably
have overdrive (5th gear if manual tranny) you may want to bump up one more
to 4.88 for a bit more uumph.
One peice of advice. Try to avoid incrementalism. Think about what you
might be doing with your Jeep 5 years down the road and build it for that.
It may cost a bit more up front...but saves you a bunch in the end.
--Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: this_chix_tj [mailto:this_chix_tj@y...]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 8:51 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Many questions about mods
I bought my TJ over a year ago with a 6" Skyjacker lift already on
it. At present, I have no lockers...no spare tire carrier...(I have
35's)...no special gearing...nothing more than a stock Dana 35. Can
anyone walk me through the modification process? Tell me the pros
and cons of replacing my Dana 35 with a 44 or just doing a mod on the
35? And as far as lockers...I know this is an age-old question...but
what would you all suggest? I am starting at ground zero...I'd like
as much input as I can possibly get. I have no knowledge and I'm
wanting to learn. Someone willing to show me how to proceed would be
a big plus.
Kris & Nick
99 TJ
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44776 From: Bill Witt <k7ant@t...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 8:41pm
Subject: Re: Belated thanks to Rob for Broken Arrow
Kris, Glad you had fun. Broken Arrow is a good place to start. Nice to read
your post will all that's going on this weekend.
Bill W
K7ANT
97 TJ with a few mods.
http://k7ant.rockcrawler.com/
Up on the Mogollon Rim in God and 4 wheeler's country.
----- Original Message -----
From: "this_chix_tj" <this_chix_tj@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:09 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Belated thanks to Rob for Broken Arrow
> I just wanted to publicly thank Rob Williams for having the patience
> and tenacity to take this totally unprepared mom and her son to do
> Broken Arrow a few weeks ago. And without too many eye rolls, at
> least that I caught. He explained things...gave his opinion...tons
> of tips...(he's always thinking of ways to do things easier, it
> seems)...and gave me the room to do the trail. I know Broken Arrow
> isn't difficult...but when you've never done anything like Devil's
> Staircase and you're in your Jeep looking down at it, knowing it's
> your turn next...well that's the sort of thing that used to make me
> hyperventilate. I started that way...but as we inched down the
> rocks...I relaxed a bit...and by the time we were to the bottom, I
> had this incredible feeling that I'd never experienced before. I
> wasn't afraid anymore...and that had a lot to do with it. That I had
> sought someone out...done this on my own...with my boy at my
> side...that was enough. But I also got just a hint of what it is you
> all love so much about going out every weekend. And if there's more
> of that to come...you'd better bet we'll be there. Thanks for
> providing a forum in which I've been able to learn a bit from the
> posts, and thanks to everyone that's offered to help me in any way.
> I look forward to meeting many of you!
>
> Kris
> 99 TJ
>
>
>
>
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44777 From: mike hudson <mikereid2@e...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 8:19pm
Subject: windsheild hinges
just dealt with this problem on my 89 wrangler. The reason they spin is
because these are just bolts with nuts (not screwed into the body). the
nuts are partially hidden in the spray on foam insulation (it's painted
the color of the tub) behind the dash. I drilled off the heads and
punched the remaining portion of the screw, still threaded into the nut,
through the foam insulation, with a hammer and punch. It's to much of a
pain to try and scrape the foam off the nuts so you can hold them with a
wrench.
good luck,
mike
44778 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 8:45pm
Subject: Re: Best Tera Flex Prices?
Try:
Bob Suplee
405-799-8977
supplee@i...
or
DC Offroad
540-890-3335
donaldii@b...
DC usually is very busy. Leave him a message and he'll call you back or
just email him.
Chris K
On Friday, March 1, 2002, at 08:31 PM, red_9inchtj wrote:
> Hey just curious who has the best prices on tera flex stuff. Thanks
> in advance for any help.
>
> Mark Folsom
>
>
>
>
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44779 From: azjetboy <azjetboy@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 8:49pm
Subject: Hardtop reair
Does anybody have experiance with hardtop/fibre glass repair? Also
does anybody have any hardtop hardware, parts, or a hardtop(TJ)
beyond repair that I could cannabalize from? One final question: we
as a club get a discount from Darner Jeep, right? How much? I would
appreciate any help on this.
Thanks
Chris Kahlert
'99 Jeep TJ
Probie@h...
44780 From: weasel_ugs <weaselugs@h...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 8:55pm
Subject: Re: Statistics Report for azvjc.org.
why does virginia have the highest traffic for an Arizona club? Don
> Breakdown of American Traffic by State
> Virginia, USA. with 6436 sessions. (25.83 % of
> traffic)
> California, USA. with 2970 sessions. (11.92 % of
> traffic)
> New York, USA. with 2231 sessions. (8.95 % of
> traffic)
> Arizona, USA. with 1195 sessions. (4.80 % of
44781 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 9:05pm
Subject: RE: Hardtop reair
Answers to your questions in the order you asked them:
Not me.
Not me.
I think so.
I don't know.
I didn't want you to think you were being ignored. This is why I usually
don't respond to many of the posts....I don't have answers worth posting.
So, this was kind of a show and tell for those that think I am ignoring them
on purpose. ;)
Timber Chucker!
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: azjetboy [mailto:azjetboy@y...]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 9:49 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Hardtop reair
Does anybody have experiance with hardtop/fibre glass repair? Also
does anybody have any hardtop hardware, parts, or a hardtop(TJ)
beyond repair that I could cannabalize from? One final question: we
as a club get a discount from Darner Jeep, right? How much? I would
appreciate any help on this.
Thanks
Chris Kahlert
'99 Jeep TJ
Probie@h...
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44782 From: g_rob_williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 9:08pm
Subject: Re: In dash MP3 player?
DON'T buy the Fosgate MP3 player!!!! I have it and when you play
regular CDs it skips like crazy on slightly rough roads... when
playing MP3s on a disc however I can pretty much play them on
washboard dirt roads with out a prob. -Rob
44783 From: paparoach85251 <lespaparoach@m...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 9:13pm
Subject: Re: Best Tera Flex Prices?
Mark,
Check out www.jeepersandcreepers.com. That's where I got my control
arms and they had the best prices around with free shipping and no
tax. Give them a call and ask for James. He is a great guy and really
knows his stuff.
Les
--- In az_vjc@y..., "red_9inchtj" <red_9inchtj@y...> wrote:
> Hey just curious who has the best prices on tera flex stuff. Thanks
> in advance for any help.
>
> Mark Folsom
44784 From: Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 9:18pm
Subject: RE: flat towing TJs with front lockers
Darren,
Flexy Joe @ Roosevelt Alignment is definitely the guy to see.
Scott K
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From: darrenr@p... [mailto:darrenr@p...] On Behalf
Of Darren Richards
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 8:26 AM
To: Scott Kruize
Cc: joey@d...; AZ_VJC
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] flat towing TJs with front lockers
Well, I'm only guessing it's the caster angle that is causing the jeep
tires to turn the wrong way in a tight turn (like maneuvering in a
parking lot). But that's the only place I ever have a problem. I've
probably flat-towed the jeep about 4000 miles with no problems so far.
In fact, I'm trying to wear down the Dunlop All-terrains so I can get
something with a more aggressive tread, but they just refuse to wear
out!
If I were to get the caster angle checked out, where would be the best
place to take the Jeep? Is that a job for Roosevelt Alignment?
darren
Scott Kruize wrote:
>
> I once talked to an RV owner who had a caster problem on the TJ he was
> flat towing. He managed to wear the front tires down until they were
> completely flat in about 100 miles.
>
> I imagine its pretty tough to see or feel that happening behind a big
> diesel pusher.
>
> I'd get the caster taken care of before you tow it again.
>
> Scott K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DesertJeep [mailto:joey@d...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:36 AM
> To: Darren Richards; azcj; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] flat towing TJs with front lockers
>
> Well that's not good. If you don't fix the caster you should go to a
> trailer. Either the one that just carries the front tires or a full
> one. I have heard of people flat towing and tying down the steering so
> the wheels do not turn. What that does is fight the towing vehicle.
> Could end up wearing tires and putting stress on the hitch and tow
> bar. Just some observations. Joey K 93YJ www.desertjeep.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: darrenr@p... [mailto:darrenr@p...]On Behalf
> Of Darren Richards
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 8:37 AM
> To: azcj; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] flat towing TJs with front lockers
>
> I agree that if no torque is applied, an automatic locker should not
> lock around turns, and should not be noticable when flat-towing. I've
> got manual hubs on my Jeep, so it's not a problem either way. My
> problem is that I have longer shackles, which have messed up my caster
> angle. This causes my jeep tires to turn the *opposite* way in a
> tight turn when I'm flat towing. Not good...
>
> azcj wrote:
> >
> > A friend of mine wants to put lockers front and rear in his TJ. He
> > will be flat towing it behind his motorhome. He heard that some
> > lockers, Lockright specifically, tend to keep the wheels from going
> > back straight after a turn. Has anyone had this problem? He doesn't
> > want ARBs.
> >
> > Scott K, I know you have a non-ARB locker up front and flat tow,
> > have you noticed this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Scott E.
44785 From: steverino1112000 <steverino1112000@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 9:26pm
Subject: Re: Sunday trail runs?
FJ, I just put the new Holley off road carb on it. It will be a good
test. You want to go?
Nick
--- In az_vjc@y..., "jeepin_in_az" <jeepin_in_az@y...> wrote:
> you taking the FJ or TJ??
>
> Mike Baney
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "steverino1112000" <steverino1112000@y...>
wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone up for Axle Alley? I have not done it yet and do not know
> the
> > way but would be interested in going.
> >
> > Nick Smith
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "DougB" <azjeep@c...> wrote:
> > > I'm up for something out FJ way.
> > >
> > > Doug
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Roger Tomas" <tomasr@a...>
> > > To: <az_vjc@y...>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:34 AM
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Sunday trail runs?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Any 4.0 - 4.5 trail runs happening on Sunday?
> > > >
> > > > -Roger
> > > >
> > > >
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44786 From: steverino1112000 <steverino1112000@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 9:28pm
Subject: Re: Sunday trail runs?
9- 9:30? Do you know the trail? I have not been there.
Nick
--- In az_vjc@y..., "DougB" <azjeep@c...> wrote:
> Sounds good to me. What time you thinking??
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "steverino1112000" <steverino1112000@y...>
> To: <az_vjc@y...>
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:56 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Sunday trail runs?
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone up for Axle Alley? I have not done it yet and do not know
the
> > way but would be interested in going.
> >
> > Nick Smith
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "DougB" <azjeep@c...> wrote:
> > > I'm up for something out FJ way.
> > >
> > > Doug
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Roger Tomas" <tomasr@a...>
> > > To: <az_vjc@y...>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:34 AM
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Sunday trail runs?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Any 4.0 - 4.5 trail runs happening on Sunday?
> > > >
> > > > -Roger
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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