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44737 From: Gregory Merica <warm_arizona@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 2:50pm
Subject: Re: windshield hinges - club thoughts
I just removed these bolts yesterday to put on a set
of mirror relocation brackets so that I could take my
doors off :-P.
PITA is not the word...I didn't realize that the same
guy that engineered the front wheel drive did work for
Jeep too!
The nuts are WAY up inside the dash, coated with thick
undercoating and behind the magnet on the speaker.
I had to have help, but I ended up putting the 1/2
inch open end wrench in a pair of vise grips (to
extend reach) and fighting with it for over an hour to
get two bolts out!
Clean as much of the undercoating gunk off the area of
the nuts so that you can get a wrench on them. I
never did get a box end or socket to work, and they
are too far up to get vise grips on. Patience.
To get the new ones on, I did as below and locked the
nuts in a pair of needle nose vise grips, centered the
nut in the hole and then threaded the bolt to it.
...BYW, I only have one mirror when I take the doors
off. I didn't have the patience to do the passenger
mirror.
Hope this helps.
Greg
stock 90YJ a.k.a. Winch Anchor
--- Darren Richards <r50880@e...> wrote:
> I ended up drilling the torx hinge screws on my CJ.
> After breaking two
> torx sockets on them, I decided that drilling was
> the way to go. I used
> a bit large enough to drill the head off of the
> screw, then used vice
> grips to back the rest of the screw out after the
> hinge was off.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> darren
>
> Reid Scholes wrote:
> >
> > When I purchased my '89 wrangler it came with
> chrome winshield hinges and many other goodies that
> needed to be added. I'm having a problem removing
> some of the bolts on the old hinges. Some were a
> snap to get out, but others are a PITA. I've soaked
> all of them with penatrating oil and have used a
> punch (3/8" dive that turns when hit with a BFH). A
> few of the bolts turn but won't come out. Others
> won't even budge. I'm getting close to taking the
> jeep to a 4x4 shop to see if they can work some
> magic. Drilling them out seems risky. Any
> thoughts? Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Side Note: I've been a lurker for the past six
> months or so. As I get more experience with all
> aspects of jeeping I feel I will be able to post
> informed replys to others questions. To me, this is
> a great club with many unique people who have a lot
> to share and are sometimes very opinionated.
> People are correct when they say, "you get out of it
> what you put in to it". I believe this club is
> strong due to its original ideas and founding
> principles. Why try to be like everybody else?
> >
> > Reid
> > '89YJ
> >
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44738 From: Chris benner <offroadfun@t...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 2:54pm
Subject: Invite to another 4x4 chat group.
If anyone gets to annoyed with chatting on this group, your more then welcome to come chat on another offroad group. No rules, memberships, organizations or fees. Just discussion about the sport we all love.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thejeepfiles
44739 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 3:16pm
Subject: RE: Gears for D35
Two questions:
What size tires are you running?
Is your speedo calibrated since changing the tires?
Timber Chucker!
a.k.a. Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason B [mailto:the_anubis@h...]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:13 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Gears for D35
I'm thinking of going to 4.88's seing how 4 gear at 65 is only 2200rpms
anybody have any thought? I want to be able to use 4 and 5th gear.
What does everyone run? I have 92 YJ 4.0..
Give more power captian..
-Jason
92YJ
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44740 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 3:16pm
Subject: RE: Organized VS Un-organized
Blake.....sorry to hear you feel that way. I would gladly answer your question, but I have no knowledge about XJ axles, what ever I told you may or may not be true....ie., it would be a guess on my part. Would you rather have that or no answer at all?
I know you already know this because of your post....but it is neat to see that you too are bored at work and whining.. ;)
Timber Chucker!
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Shepherd, Blake [mailto:blakeshepherd@centura.org]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:43 PM
To: 'Michael Wixom'; AZ Virtual Jeep Club
Cc: Arizona Dust Devils
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Organized VS Un-organized
Agreed. A few days ago I posted a question regarding the interchangeability of XJ and TJ rear axle shafts. I received no response whatsoever. When I first joined the club, I asked several questions regarding my old CJ and people always responded with good ideas or suggestions.
Now, this club / mailing list has become full of people sitting at work bored just wanting something to whine about.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Wixom [mailto:h8pvmnt@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:58 PM
To: AZ Virtual Jeep Club
Cc: Arizona Dust Devils
Subject: [az_vjc] Organized VS Un-organized
I would like to relay some statistics. Last night I sent a simple post to the AZVJC (Un-Organized) and to the Arizona Dust Devils (organized) forums requesting input on axles for the front Dana 30 on my CJ. Thru 2 pm today I have received ONE reply from the 1000+ AZVJC members and it was a smartass/comedic comment telling me to buy a Dana 60. From the Arizona Dust Devils 27 members I have received 4 responses with suggestions, personal experiences or questions, but no smart ***/comedic remarks. I got the same type of statistical response when I have asked other questions. Is the problem that I have a CJ and of the 1000 or so members of THE AZVJC there are very few CJ's . Or are my questions to stupid to warrant an intelligent response. This may be just an anomaly, but I am starting to get a complex. Just curios if anyone else experiences this kind of thing. Based on these statistics I would conclude that organized is better than un-organized.
Mike Wixom
85 CJ-7
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44741 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 3:16pm
Subject: RE: Axles 101
Josh,
A 99 TJ Dana 35 rear axle is a c-clip axle. Yes, u-joints among TJ years
are the same. '98 joints will fit your '99.
Timber Chucker!
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: pebble007 [mailto:jawooten@h...]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:37 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Axles 101
Okay people I need to understand this. I have a 99 tj with a dana 35
rear and 30 front. How do I find out if this is a "c" or not? From
what I understand the "c" stands for custom not c-clip? How do I
know if I have a c-clip? I have read posts where people have said
the have a spare passenger side axle, I assume that this is because
the diff is off center and the axles are differn't in length. I am
asking all of this because from what I understand the 35 is
notoriously weak and I cannot at this time afford the super kit but
would like to have a spare for the trail. Also when I go to checker
to get u-joints they don't have a listing for the 99 tj???? How many
U-joints are there and are they all the same (front vs. back). Can I
use U-joints listed for a 98?
Well Thanks for the info in advance.
Josh
99 TJ -HOMER-
CSMYC
(Coil Springs Make You Cool)
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44742 From: steverino1112000 <steverino1112000@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 2:56pm
Subject: Re: Sunday trail runs?
Anyone up for Axle Alley? I have not done it yet and do not know the
way but would be interested in going.
Nick Smith
--- In az_vjc@y..., "DougB" <azjeep@c...> wrote:
> I'm up for something out FJ way.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roger Tomas" <tomasr@a...>
> To: <az_vjc@y...>
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:34 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Sunday trail runs?
>
>
> > Any 4.0 - 4.5 trail runs happening on Sunday?
> >
> > -Roger
> >
> >
> >
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44743 From: <Skydivedrunk@a...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 10:11am
Subject: Wiring harness
I'm looking for a wiring diagram. I got a new steering column and want to move the ignition switch back onto the column, the previous owner had it placed in the dash for some reason and I want to find out the wire colors to put it in it's rightful place. It's on a 1979 CJ-5, with the 304 in it. I don't know if you need anymore info or not. If so just let me know and I'll get what you need. Thanks
Chris
44744 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 3:26pm
Subject: Re: Nearly Jeepers....Trail Destroyers.......
Randy,
The last people I would discuss (or even tell) about new trails are
folks that work at 4x4 shops. They are just too darn accessible. Sorry
Guys!
Linda
"Siade, Randy" wrote:
>
> This is from a hard core rock crawler that is very pissed off about H2H.
> Sounds like H2H has just become a 2.0.
>
> JC Whitney strikes again! That's right folks. The stock Jeep, JC
> Whitney catalog loving 4-wheelers have screwed up another trail.
> The "Highway To Hell" trail has simply become....."The Highway."
>
> Now I know some of you are saying to yourself.....Who died and left
> ME trail supervisor??? Well, nobody. BUT I do have a right to piss
> and moan when a bunch of yahoos spend two days on a 4+ trail stacking
> (and moving) enough rocks that when they finally DO leave the trail,
> D.O.T (Department Of Transportation) comes right behind them and put
> up roads signs it's so freakin' easy!
>
> Now here's a little clue for you people (you know who you are). If
> you own a stock Jeep or any stock Jap rig, yada yada, and you are
> stupid enough to go on a 4+ trail.....LEAVE IT THE WAY YOU FOUND IT!
> It's jerks like you that give ALL Wheelers a bad name!
>
> They go on tougher trails that they don't belong on and move tons of
> rock, stack it miles high, all in the name of "I can do it too!" Oh
> and so they can tell their buds..."Dude, that trail was easy!" I made
> it through with 33" Tiger Paws with a 1" lift kit and open front and
> rear diffs. ta-boot!".....What a crock!
>
> Then, if they can't find enough rocks to move and stack....HELL,
> THEY JUST MAKE A BY-PASS! As long as no one sees them, it's a go!
>
> Most of these yahoos do NOT belong to any organized clubs. Nor do
> they have any idea what the words "Tread lightly" mean! They just
> bolt on set of driving lights, put on bead lock rims (because they
> look cool) and away they go. Their idea of getting ready for a trail
> run is filling the tank up with gas and taking out the baby seat.
>
> For now, I guess the only hope of saving the tougher trails of
> Arizona for the Rigs that are properly equipped to run them is to
> keep them secret. That's right folks! The next time you go to "4-
> wheelers Supply" or "Off Road Unlimited" to get a few parts
> from "behind the counter" (where the 4+ trails guys ask for parts)
> and you see a $50,000 TJ sitting in the parking lot with enough
> chrome on it to rival a parking lot full of Harley's, take a look
> around the lobby......and if you see someone looking at the goodies
> hanging on the peg board, wearing Safari shorts and Boat shoes
> holding a brand new, just arrived, chrome gas can........keep your
> voice down when discussing that latest trail. Or maybe.....juuuuuust
> maybe, that crashing, metal nashing sound you hear like the land
> eating monsters in Stephen King's "The Langoliers" will only be a
> snapping Dana 30 U-joint and the "PING" axle breaking sound of
> another Foo-Foo trail wreaking show Jeep headed your
> way...............
>
>
>
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44745 From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 3:43pm
Subject: Re: Sunday trail runs?
you taking the FJ or TJ??
Mike Baney
--- In az_vjc@y..., "steverino1112000" <steverino1112000@y...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Anyone up for Axle Alley? I have not done it yet and do not know
the
> way but would be interested in going.
>
> Nick Smith
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "DougB" <azjeep@c...> wrote:
> > I'm up for something out FJ way.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Roger Tomas" <tomasr@a...>
> > To: <az_vjc@y...>
> > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:34 AM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Sunday trail runs?
> >
> >
> > > Any 4.0 - 4.5 trail runs happening on Sunday?
> > >
> > > -Roger
> > >
> > >
> > >
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44746 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 3:53pm
Subject: Re: Organized VS Un-organized
I think the group was consumed with the debate, and had a very high level of posts, and you request may have gotten lost in the shuffle. There usually are plenty of responses to tech questions.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: Shepherd, Blake
To: 'Michael Wixom' ; AZ Virtual Jeep Club
Cc: Arizona Dust Devils
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:43 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Organized VS Un-organized
Agreed. A few days ago I posted a question regarding the interchangeability of XJ and TJ rear axle shafts. I received no response whatsoever. When I first joined the club, I asked several questions regarding my old CJ and people always responded with good ideas or suggestions.
Now, this club / mailing list has become full of people sitting at work bored just wanting something to whine about.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Wixom [mailto:h8pvmnt@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:58 PM
To: AZ Virtual Jeep Club
Cc: Arizona Dust Devils
Subject: [az_vjc] Organized VS Un-organized
I would like to relay some statistics. Last night I sent a simple post to the AZVJC (Un-Organized) and to the Arizona Dust Devils (organized) forums requesting input on axles for the front Dana 30 on my CJ. Thru 2 pm today I have received ONE reply from the 1000+ AZVJC members and it was a smartass/comedic comment telling me to buy a Dana 60. From the Arizona Dust Devils 27 members I have received 4 responses with suggestions, personal experiences or questions, but no smart ***/comedic remarks. I got the same type of statistical response when I have asked other questions. Is the problem that I have a CJ and of the 1000 or so members of THE AZVJC there are very few CJ's . Or are my questions to stupid to warrant an intelligent response. This may be just an anomaly, but I am starting to get a complex. Just curios if anyone else experiences this kind of thing. Based on these statistics I would conclude that organized is better than un-organized.
Mike Wixom
85 CJ-7
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44747 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 3:57pm
Subject: Re: I'll post it again
Don't know the answer, but I'd be surprised if they did. I believe the XJ
has a wider wheel base...not by much, but I believe it's wider.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shepherd, Blake" <blakeshepherd@c...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:30 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] I'll post it again
> If you have the rear axle shafts from an 80's or so XJ D35 c-clip, will
> those shafts work in a D35 on a TJ?
>
> I am looking to get some rear shafts from an XJ in the junkyard for some
> spares.
>
> thanks for any help on this
>
> Blake
> 80CJ5
> 01 TJ
>
>
>
>
>
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44748 From: Neal Han**** <azredrocker@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 3:57pm
Subject: Re: Flo Jx this weekend? ARCA demo???
Hey dog, there is a rock crawl demo this weekend being put on by the Arizona Rock Crawlers 4 wheel drive club. We are looking for anyone who would like to enter/participate or if you just want to watch thats ok too. We will be camping out at the old Jamboree site all weekend. Tomorrow night we are serving dinner to those who would like to help or run the event. It's just for fun! All are welcome. The event will be Sunday morning in Lower Woodpecker. There should be plenty of carnage.
Neal Han****
Pres. Arizona Rock Crawlers
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44749 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 3:59pm
Subject: Re: Re: Sunday trail runs?
Sounds good to me. What time you thinking??
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "steverino1112000" <steverino1112000@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:56 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Sunday trail runs?
>
>
>
> Anyone up for Axle Alley? I have not done it yet and do not know the
> way but would be interested in going.
>
> Nick Smith
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "DougB" <azjeep@c...> wrote:
> > I'm up for something out FJ way.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Roger Tomas" <tomasr@a...>
> > To: <az_vjc@y...>
> > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:34 AM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Sunday trail runs?
> >
> >
> > > Any 4.0 - 4.5 trail runs happening on Sunday?
> > >
> > > -Roger
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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> > >
> > >
>
>
>
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44750 From: Mike & Karen Acuna <macunasprint@e...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 4:10pm
Subject: rock stacking
We always take our own rocks with us to stack our way through.....LOL. Just kidding, we went and played around on Gilamonster and gathered up some rocks for the front yard.
Mike
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44751 From: Kevin Thornton <ktcflhd@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 4:11pm
Subject: Re: Firestick
I got mine at http://www.valcoelectronics.com/.
Kevin
94XJ
--- jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...> wrote:
> I am looking to order a firestick online, don't have
> time to go to CB
> Exchange, or to Bronco One. Any links to web pages
> that have
> firesticks?
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike Baney
>
>
>
>
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44752 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 11:15am
Subject: Axles
Hey all
I have contacted every junkyard in town and can not come up with a spare axle for the drivers side of my Dana 35 for sundays event...If there is anyone out there with one they are willing to sell, please let me know :)
Sharky
44753 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 3:59pm
Subject: Re: ZJ parts
Uhmmmm... The rear bushings for the control arms are in the control
arms. Are you talking about the bushings for the front upper control
arms? I can understand why they won't honor the warranty. Here's why.
The aftermarket control arms do not have the same angle on the bushings
as the factory models and tend to tear them sideways, particularly if
your aftermarket arms have poly bushings or factory rubber on the body
end. Rubber bushings are not made to last indefinitely and can only
take so much abuse. When I had mine replaced (way after the warranty ran
out), the mechanic who worked on the ZJ said that I should expect to be
replacing the bushings more frequently as a result of the change in
geometry. I had to agree with him on that one. To slow down the
deterioration of these bushings, make sure the front UCAs have
heim-joints (or johnny joints) on the body end.
Linda
flatfendr@a... wrote:
>
> According to the dealer the bushings are shot. They replaced the
> lower front ones about 4 months ago. Nothing was said then about
> warranty issues. By the way , can you just replace the bushings?
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44754 From: az_jeeper_mike <Mike@A...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 4:28pm
Subject: Re: Flo Jx this weekend? ARCA demo???
Have any of the requirements changes, specifically are winches still
required?
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., Neal Han**** <azredrocker@y...> wrote:
>
> Hey dog, there is a rock crawl demo this weekend being put on by
the Arizona Rock Crawlers 4 wheel drive club. We are looking for
anyone who would like to enter/participate or if you just want to
watch thats ok too. We will be camping out at the old Jamboree site
all weekend. Tomorrow night we are serving dinner to those who would
like to help or run the event. It's just for fun! All are welcome.
The event will be Sunday morning in Lower Woodpecker. There should
be plenty of carnage.
> Neal Han****
>
> Pres. Arizona Rock Crawlers
>
> PS Feel free to call with questions. 480-857-9128
>
>
>
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44755 From: Keith Haw <khaw@n...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 4:28pm
Subject: Re: Firestick
What type firesticks you looking for? I have a pair of 4' white ones I
pulled off one of my 18 wheelers. You can have one if you need it. I'm just
going to need 1 for my flatty.
Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Thornton" <ktcflhd@y...>
To: "jeepin_in_az" <jeepin_in_az@y...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Firestick
> I got mine at http://www.valcoelectronics.com/.
>
> Kevin
> 94XJ
>
> --- jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...> wrote:
> > I am looking to order a firestick online, don't have
> > time to go to CB
> > Exchange, or to Bronco One. Any links to web pages
> > that have
> > firesticks?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Mike Baney
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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44756 From: Chris benner <offroadfun@t...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 4:46pm
Subject: Harquahala Peak
Didn't someone say a while ago that the harquahala peak trail was paved all the way to top? I'd like to run it, but not if its paved.
44757 From: tom le <tomle_85024@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 4:53pm
Subject: Re: Anyone have the Giant ZJ pic?
Here are two of my favorite pictures of my rig. Tom
Jayke Thorpe wrote:
Can someone send me the Giant ZJ as an attachment?
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44758 From: <macunasprint@e...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 5:18pm
Subject: My Webshots Photos
Hi,
Check out these photos I uploaded to Webshots!
Gila Monster 3/1/02
http://cards.webshots.com/cp-18464664-ADIb-album/32294013Vgeznl
Cheers,
Mike
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44759 From: Mike & Karen Acuna <macunasprint@e...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 5:22pm
Subject: another directional cactus
Here is another direction giving cactus.
...and a duckbilled one.
Both out near Gilamonster.
Mike
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44760 From: Keith Haw <khaw@n...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 5:24pm
Subject: test
test
44761 From: Steve Meyer <steve.j.meyer@c...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 5:30pm
Subject: Re: Anyone have the Giant ZJ pic?
I've seen your rig at F12. Very nice...and huge! I have the built black YJ in the parking lot.
--Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: tom le
To: Jayke Thorpe ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Anyone have the Giant ZJ pic?
Here are two of my favorite pictures of my rig. Tom
Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@yahoo.com> wrote:
Can someone send me the Giant ZJ as an attachment?
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44737 From: Gregory Merica <warm_arizona@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 2:50pm
Subject: Re: windshield hinges - club thoughts
I just removed these bolts yesterday to put on a set
of mirror relocation brackets so that I could take my
doors off :-P.
PITA is not the word...I didn't realize that the same
guy that engineered the front wheel drive did work for
Jeep too!
The nuts are WAY up inside the dash, coated with thick
undercoating and behind the magnet on the speaker.
I had to have help, but I ended up putting the 1/2
inch open end wrench in a pair of vise grips (to
extend reach) and fighting with it for over an hour to
get two bolts out!
Clean as much of the undercoating gunk off the area of
the nuts so that you can get a wrench on them. I
never did get a box end or socket to work, and they
are too far up to get vise grips on. Patience.
To get the new ones on, I did as below and locked the
nuts in a pair of needle nose vise grips, centered the
nut in the hole and then threaded the bolt to it.
...BYW, I only have one mirror when I take the doors
off. I didn't have the patience to do the passenger
mirror.
Hope this helps.
Greg
stock 90YJ a.k.a. Winch Anchor
--- Darren Richards <r50880@e...> wrote:
> I ended up drilling the torx hinge screws on my CJ.
> After breaking two
> torx sockets on them, I decided that drilling was
> the way to go. I used
> a bit large enough to drill the head off of the
> screw, then used vice
> grips to back the rest of the screw out after the
> hinge was off.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> darren
>
> Reid Scholes wrote:
> >
> > When I purchased my '89 wrangler it came with
> chrome winshield hinges and many other goodies that
> needed to be added. I'm having a problem removing
> some of the bolts on the old hinges. Some were a
> snap to get out, but others are a PITA. I've soaked
> all of them with penatrating oil and have used a
> punch (3/8" dive that turns when hit with a BFH). A
> few of the bolts turn but won't come out. Others
> won't even budge. I'm getting close to taking the
> jeep to a 4x4 shop to see if they can work some
> magic. Drilling them out seems risky. Any
> thoughts? Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Side Note: I've been a lurker for the past six
> months or so. As I get more experience with all
> aspects of jeeping I feel I will be able to post
> informed replys to others questions. To me, this is
> a great club with many unique people who have a lot
> to share and are sometimes very opinionated.
> People are correct when they say, "you get out of it
> what you put in to it". I believe this club is
> strong due to its original ideas and founding
> principles. Why try to be like everybody else?
> >
> > Reid
> > '89YJ
> >
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44738 From: Chris benner <offroadfun@t...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 2:54pm
Subject: Invite to another 4x4 chat group.
If anyone gets to annoyed with chatting on this group, your more then welcome to come chat on another offroad group. No rules, memberships, organizations or fees. Just discussion about the sport we all love.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thejeepfiles
44739 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 3:16pm
Subject: RE: Gears for D35
Two questions:
What size tires are you running?
Is your speedo calibrated since changing the tires?
Timber Chucker!
a.k.a. Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason B [mailto:the_anubis@h...]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:13 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Gears for D35
I'm thinking of going to 4.88's seing how 4 gear at 65 is only 2200rpms
anybody have any thought? I want to be able to use 4 and 5th gear.
What does everyone run? I have 92 YJ 4.0..
Give more power captian..
-Jason
92YJ
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44740 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 3:16pm
Subject: RE: Organized VS Un-organized
Blake.....sorry to hear you feel that way. I would gladly answer your question, but I have no knowledge about XJ axles, what ever I told you may or may not be true....ie., it would be a guess on my part. Would you rather have that or no answer at all?
I know you already know this because of your post....but it is neat to see that you too are bored at work and whining.. ;)
Timber Chucker!
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Shepherd, Blake [mailto:blakeshepherd@centura.org]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:43 PM
To: 'Michael Wixom'; AZ Virtual Jeep Club
Cc: Arizona Dust Devils
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Organized VS Un-organized
Agreed. A few days ago I posted a question regarding the interchangeability of XJ and TJ rear axle shafts. I received no response whatsoever. When I first joined the club, I asked several questions regarding my old CJ and people always responded with good ideas or suggestions.
Now, this club / mailing list has become full of people sitting at work bored just wanting something to whine about.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Wixom [mailto:h8pvmnt@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:58 PM
To: AZ Virtual Jeep Club
Cc: Arizona Dust Devils
Subject: [az_vjc] Organized VS Un-organized
I would like to relay some statistics. Last night I sent a simple post to the AZVJC (Un-Organized) and to the Arizona Dust Devils (organized) forums requesting input on axles for the front Dana 30 on my CJ. Thru 2 pm today I have received ONE reply from the 1000+ AZVJC members and it was a smartass/comedic comment telling me to buy a Dana 60. From the Arizona Dust Devils 27 members I have received 4 responses with suggestions, personal experiences or questions, but no smart ***/comedic remarks. I got the same type of statistical response when I have asked other questions. Is the problem that I have a CJ and of the 1000 or so members of THE AZVJC there are very few CJ's . Or are my questions to stupid to warrant an intelligent response. This may be just an anomaly, but I am starting to get a complex. Just curios if anyone else experiences this kind of thing. Based on these statistics I would conclude that organized is better than un-organized.
Mike Wixom
85 CJ-7
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44741 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 3:16pm
Subject: RE: Axles 101
Josh,
A 99 TJ Dana 35 rear axle is a c-clip axle. Yes, u-joints among TJ years
are the same. '98 joints will fit your '99.
Timber Chucker!
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: pebble007 [mailto:jawooten@h...]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:37 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Axles 101
Okay people I need to understand this. I have a 99 tj with a dana 35
rear and 30 front. How do I find out if this is a "c" or not? From
what I understand the "c" stands for custom not c-clip? How do I
know if I have a c-clip? I have read posts where people have said
the have a spare passenger side axle, I assume that this is because
the diff is off center and the axles are differn't in length. I am
asking all of this because from what I understand the 35 is
notoriously weak and I cannot at this time afford the super kit but
would like to have a spare for the trail. Also when I go to checker
to get u-joints they don't have a listing for the 99 tj???? How many
U-joints are there and are they all the same (front vs. back). Can I
use U-joints listed for a 98?
Well Thanks for the info in advance.
Josh
99 TJ -HOMER-
CSMYC
(Coil Springs Make You Cool)
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44742 From: steverino1112000 <steverino1112000@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 2:56pm
Subject: Re: Sunday trail runs?
Anyone up for Axle Alley? I have not done it yet and do not know the
way but would be interested in going.
Nick Smith
--- In az_vjc@y..., "DougB" <azjeep@c...> wrote:
> I'm up for something out FJ way.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roger Tomas" <tomasr@a...>
> To: <az_vjc@y...>
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:34 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Sunday trail runs?
>
>
> > Any 4.0 - 4.5 trail runs happening on Sunday?
> >
> > -Roger
> >
> >
> >
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44743 From: <Skydivedrunk@a...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 10:11am
Subject: Wiring harness
I'm looking for a wiring diagram. I got a new steering column and want to move the ignition switch back onto the column, the previous owner had it placed in the dash for some reason and I want to find out the wire colors to put it in it's rightful place. It's on a 1979 CJ-5, with the 304 in it. I don't know if you need anymore info or not. If so just let me know and I'll get what you need. Thanks
Chris
44744 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 3:26pm
Subject: Re: Nearly Jeepers....Trail Destroyers.......
Randy,
The last people I would discuss (or even tell) about new trails are
folks that work at 4x4 shops. They are just too darn accessible. Sorry
Guys!
Linda
"Siade, Randy" wrote:
>
> This is from a hard core rock crawler that is very pissed off about H2H.
> Sounds like H2H has just become a 2.0.
>
> JC Whitney strikes again! That's right folks. The stock Jeep, JC
> Whitney catalog loving 4-wheelers have screwed up another trail.
> The "Highway To Hell" trail has simply become....."The Highway."
>
> Now I know some of you are saying to yourself.....Who died and left
> ME trail supervisor??? Well, nobody. BUT I do have a right to piss
> and moan when a bunch of yahoos spend two days on a 4+ trail stacking
> (and moving) enough rocks that when they finally DO leave the trail,
> D.O.T (Department Of Transportation) comes right behind them and put
> up roads signs it's so freakin' easy!
>
> Now here's a little clue for you people (you know who you are). If
> you own a stock Jeep or any stock Jap rig, yada yada, and you are
> stupid enough to go on a 4+ trail.....LEAVE IT THE WAY YOU FOUND IT!
> It's jerks like you that give ALL Wheelers a bad name!
>
> They go on tougher trails that they don't belong on and move tons of
> rock, stack it miles high, all in the name of "I can do it too!" Oh
> and so they can tell their buds..."Dude, that trail was easy!" I made
> it through with 33" Tiger Paws with a 1" lift kit and open front and
> rear diffs. ta-boot!".....What a crock!
>
> Then, if they can't find enough rocks to move and stack....HELL,
> THEY JUST MAKE A BY-PASS! As long as no one sees them, it's a go!
>
> Most of these yahoos do NOT belong to any organized clubs. Nor do
> they have any idea what the words "Tread lightly" mean! They just
> bolt on set of driving lights, put on bead lock rims (because they
> look cool) and away they go. Their idea of getting ready for a trail
> run is filling the tank up with gas and taking out the baby seat.
>
> For now, I guess the only hope of saving the tougher trails of
> Arizona for the Rigs that are properly equipped to run them is to
> keep them secret. That's right folks! The next time you go to "4-
> wheelers Supply" or "Off Road Unlimited" to get a few parts
> from "behind the counter" (where the 4+ trails guys ask for parts)
> and you see a $50,000 TJ sitting in the parking lot with enough
> chrome on it to rival a parking lot full of Harley's, take a look
> around the lobby......and if you see someone looking at the goodies
> hanging on the peg board, wearing Safari shorts and Boat shoes
> holding a brand new, just arrived, chrome gas can........keep your
> voice down when discussing that latest trail. Or maybe.....juuuuuust
> maybe, that crashing, metal nashing sound you hear like the land
> eating monsters in Stephen King's "The Langoliers" will only be a
> snapping Dana 30 U-joint and the "PING" axle breaking sound of
> another Foo-Foo trail wreaking show Jeep headed your
> way...............
>
>
>
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44745 From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 3:43pm
Subject: Re: Sunday trail runs?
you taking the FJ or TJ??
Mike Baney
--- In az_vjc@y..., "steverino1112000" <steverino1112000@y...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Anyone up for Axle Alley? I have not done it yet and do not know
the
> way but would be interested in going.
>
> Nick Smith
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "DougB" <azjeep@c...> wrote:
> > I'm up for something out FJ way.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Roger Tomas" <tomasr@a...>
> > To: <az_vjc@y...>
> > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:34 AM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Sunday trail runs?
> >
> >
> > > Any 4.0 - 4.5 trail runs happening on Sunday?
> > >
> > > -Roger
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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44746 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 3:53pm
Subject: Re: Organized VS Un-organized
I think the group was consumed with the debate, and had a very high level of posts, and you request may have gotten lost in the shuffle. There usually are plenty of responses to tech questions.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: Shepherd, Blake
To: 'Michael Wixom' ; AZ Virtual Jeep Club
Cc: Arizona Dust Devils
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:43 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Organized VS Un-organized
Agreed. A few days ago I posted a question regarding the interchangeability of XJ and TJ rear axle shafts. I received no response whatsoever. When I first joined the club, I asked several questions regarding my old CJ and people always responded with good ideas or suggestions.
Now, this club / mailing list has become full of people sitting at work bored just wanting something to whine about.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Wixom [mailto:h8pvmnt@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:58 PM
To: AZ Virtual Jeep Club
Cc: Arizona Dust Devils
Subject: [az_vjc] Organized VS Un-organized
I would like to relay some statistics. Last night I sent a simple post to the AZVJC (Un-Organized) and to the Arizona Dust Devils (organized) forums requesting input on axles for the front Dana 30 on my CJ. Thru 2 pm today I have received ONE reply from the 1000+ AZVJC members and it was a smartass/comedic comment telling me to buy a Dana 60. From the Arizona Dust Devils 27 members I have received 4 responses with suggestions, personal experiences or questions, but no smart ***/comedic remarks. I got the same type of statistical response when I have asked other questions. Is the problem that I have a CJ and of the 1000 or so members of THE AZVJC there are very few CJ's . Or are my questions to stupid to warrant an intelligent response. This may be just an anomaly, but I am starting to get a complex. Just curios if anyone else experiences this kind of thing. Based on these statistics I would conclude that organized is better than un-organized.
Mike Wixom
85 CJ-7
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44747 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 3:57pm
Subject: Re: I'll post it again
Don't know the answer, but I'd be surprised if they did. I believe the XJ
has a wider wheel base...not by much, but I believe it's wider.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shepherd, Blake" <blakeshepherd@c...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:30 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] I'll post it again
> If you have the rear axle shafts from an 80's or so XJ D35 c-clip, will
> those shafts work in a D35 on a TJ?
>
> I am looking to get some rear shafts from an XJ in the junkyard for some
> spares.
>
> thanks for any help on this
>
> Blake
> 80CJ5
> 01 TJ
>
>
>
>
>
>
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44748 From: Neal Han**** <azredrocker@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 3:57pm
Subject: Re: Flo Jx this weekend? ARCA demo???
Hey dog, there is a rock crawl demo this weekend being put on by the Arizona Rock Crawlers 4 wheel drive club. We are looking for anyone who would like to enter/participate or if you just want to watch thats ok too. We will be camping out at the old Jamboree site all weekend. Tomorrow night we are serving dinner to those who would like to help or run the event. It's just for fun! All are welcome. The event will be Sunday morning in Lower Woodpecker. There should be plenty of carnage.
Neal Han****
Pres. Arizona Rock Crawlers
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44749 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 3:59pm
Subject: Re: Re: Sunday trail runs?
Sounds good to me. What time you thinking??
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "steverino1112000" <steverino1112000@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:56 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Sunday trail runs?
>
>
>
> Anyone up for Axle Alley? I have not done it yet and do not know the
> way but would be interested in going.
>
> Nick Smith
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "DougB" <azjeep@c...> wrote:
> > I'm up for something out FJ way.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Roger Tomas" <tomasr@a...>
> > To: <az_vjc@y...>
> > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:34 AM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Sunday trail runs?
> >
> >
> > > Any 4.0 - 4.5 trail runs happening on Sunday?
> > >
> > > -Roger
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
44750 From: Mike & Karen Acuna <macunasprint@e...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 4:10pm
Subject: rock stacking
We always take our own rocks with us to stack our way through.....LOL. Just kidding, we went and played around on Gilamonster and gathered up some rocks for the front yard.
Mike
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44751 From: Kevin Thornton <ktcflhd@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 4:11pm
Subject: Re: Firestick
I got mine at http://www.valcoelectronics.com/.
Kevin
94XJ
--- jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...> wrote:
> I am looking to order a firestick online, don't have
> time to go to CB
> Exchange, or to Bronco One. Any links to web pages
> that have
> firesticks?
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike Baney
>
>
>
>
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44752 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 11:15am
Subject: Axles
Hey all
I have contacted every junkyard in town and can not come up with a spare axle for the drivers side of my Dana 35 for sundays event...If there is anyone out there with one they are willing to sell, please let me know :)
Sharky
44753 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 3:59pm
Subject: Re: ZJ parts
Uhmmmm... The rear bushings for the control arms are in the control
arms. Are you talking about the bushings for the front upper control
arms? I can understand why they won't honor the warranty. Here's why.
The aftermarket control arms do not have the same angle on the bushings
as the factory models and tend to tear them sideways, particularly if
your aftermarket arms have poly bushings or factory rubber on the body
end. Rubber bushings are not made to last indefinitely and can only
take so much abuse. When I had mine replaced (way after the warranty ran
out), the mechanic who worked on the ZJ said that I should expect to be
replacing the bushings more frequently as a result of the change in
geometry. I had to agree with him on that one. To slow down the
deterioration of these bushings, make sure the front UCAs have
heim-joints (or johnny joints) on the body end.
Linda
flatfendr@a... wrote:
>
> According to the dealer the bushings are shot. They replaced the
> lower front ones about 4 months ago. Nothing was said then about
> warranty issues. By the way , can you just replace the bushings?
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44754 From: az_jeeper_mike <Mike@A...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 4:28pm
Subject: Re: Flo Jx this weekend? ARCA demo???
Have any of the requirements changes, specifically are winches still
required?
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., Neal Han**** <azredrocker@y...> wrote:
>
> Hey dog, there is a rock crawl demo this weekend being put on by
the Arizona Rock Crawlers 4 wheel drive club. We are looking for
anyone who would like to enter/participate or if you just want to
watch thats ok too. We will be camping out at the old Jamboree site
all weekend. Tomorrow night we are serving dinner to those who would
like to help or run the event. It's just for fun! All are welcome.
The event will be Sunday morning in Lower Woodpecker. There should
be plenty of carnage.
> Neal Han****
>
> Pres. Arizona Rock Crawlers
>
> PS Feel free to call with questions. 480-857-9128
>
>
>
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44755 From: Keith Haw <khaw@n...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 4:28pm
Subject: Re: Firestick
What type firesticks you looking for? I have a pair of 4' white ones I
pulled off one of my 18 wheelers. You can have one if you need it. I'm just
going to need 1 for my flatty.
Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Thornton" <ktcflhd@y...>
To: "jeepin_in_az" <jeepin_in_az@y...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Firestick
> I got mine at http://www.valcoelectronics.com/.
>
> Kevin
> 94XJ
>
> --- jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...> wrote:
> > I am looking to order a firestick online, don't have
> > time to go to CB
> > Exchange, or to Bronco One. Any links to web pages
> > that have
> > firesticks?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Mike Baney
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
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44756 From: Chris benner <offroadfun@t...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 4:46pm
Subject: Harquahala Peak
Didn't someone say a while ago that the harquahala peak trail was paved all the way to top? I'd like to run it, but not if its paved.
44757 From: tom le <tomle_85024@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 4:53pm
Subject: Re: Anyone have the Giant ZJ pic?
Here are two of my favorite pictures of my rig. Tom
Jayke Thorpe wrote:
Can someone send me the Giant ZJ as an attachment?
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44758 From: <macunasprint@e...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 5:18pm
Subject: My Webshots Photos
Hi,
Check out these photos I uploaded to Webshots!
Gila Monster 3/1/02
http://cards.webshots.com/cp-18464664-ADIb-album/32294013Vgeznl
Cheers,
Mike
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44759 From: Mike & Karen Acuna <macunasprint@e...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 5:22pm
Subject: another directional cactus
Here is another direction giving cactus.
...and a duckbilled one.
Both out near Gilamonster.
Mike
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44760 From: Keith Haw <khaw@n...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 5:24pm
Subject: test
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44761 From: Steve Meyer <steve.j.meyer@c...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 5:30pm
Subject: Re: Anyone have the Giant ZJ pic?
I've seen your rig at F12. Very nice...and huge! I have the built black YJ in the parking lot.
--Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: tom le
To: Jayke Thorpe ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Anyone have the Giant ZJ pic?
Here are two of my favorite pictures of my rig. Tom
Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@yahoo.com> wrote:
Can someone send me the Giant ZJ as an attachment?
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