Butcher Jones Vehichle Removal

[YJunk]

There is an LTD in the north end of the wash that leads into cove one... its burried axle deep in sand and has a bunch or really large rock in the cabin area...

Shnipe and I are looking to attempt an extraction Friday March 2. This is a big ole thing and its not burned out, so its likely full of gas. I'm not sure we can get it out with just our rigs and could probably use a hand... A couple of rigs with winches would be a plus, especially for getting it pulled to the top of the firs hill...

We'll also need a clean up crew to lend a hand in getting any spills and misc parts picked up...

[SHNIPE]

Yup... ill be there. I promise not to roll :D All business

[YJunk]

Yup... ill be there. I promise not to roll :D All business

Rolling is your business!! :)

[SHNIPE]

Rolling is your business!! :)

oh... right... well umm i said i had the day off on friday :D

[daniel]

sorr didnt know there was a post already.I think I get off at 9am then Ill head out

[lamanite480]

What Time on Friday were you thinking about?

[YJunk]

What Time on Friday were you thinking about?

I can't be out there until about 1PM... I get done work around 11:30 or so and it takes me bout 45 to get there... If we get enough coordination and help, you can probably pull it off without my dumb arse being there anyway... I'm not good for much outside of the occasional joke as it is... when I get out there if the pig is still in the ground I'll jump in there... if not, I'll jump into the the clean up crew...

[daniel]

ben call in sick and show for this sh!t

[Phx Cobra]

ben call in sick and show for this sh!t

I took this Friday off, so not going to happen:(

[Gordon]

Has the owner or proper authorities been notified of this removal?

You all just need to cover your arsses so no one blames you of theft or vandalism.

[SHNIPE]

Has the owner or proper authorities been notified of this removal?

You all just need to cover your arsses so no one blames you of theft or vandalism.

Good call Gordon. Planning on running out and getting the info on monday morning then contacting. But we had to start planning ahead now for a possible removal so everyone has enough time to prepare. Itll all be legit by the time we actually do it. Good lookin out!

[russ1688]

I'll try to get that day off and join you guys. I'll let you know when I find out if my vacation is approved.

[macinyart]

I'm in for this. I have the whole day off (retired you know, just rubbing it in a bit here). I'll bring shovels, new winch :D , I can be there by 0900 hours. Life is good. :)

[OlneyJeeps]

just some thoughts/questions:

Did you think I would miss out on the fun?:eek: Is there a reason is planned for friday (instead of Saturday when more people could attend)?

are there tires/wheels on this ship?

why do you think this will be harder than the explorer extraction?

for post extraction removal, I have always just contacted Tonto forest and they usually have wrecker out within a day or so (as opposed to whoever is incharge of TM, where it takes 2-7 weeks to remove the crap we pick up:mad: )

[mingoglia]

Unfortunately in the past contacting the authorities ends up demoralizing the effort as they typically don't care and you usually run into dead ends. I'm not encouraging anyone not to contact the appropriate people but personally if it was me I'd just do it and claim ignorance later. Unfortunately doing the right thing (contacting the appropriate authority) often hampers doing the right thing (removing the vehicle)

I wish I could help. I have 75 people coming to my house for a party the following morning and my wife would have my arse if I was anywhere near the Jeep while making the last minute preparations.

Mike

[OlneyJeeps]

I wish I could help. I have 75 people coming to my house for a party the following morning and my wife would have my arse if I was anywhere near the Jeep while making the last minute preparations.

Mike

did you say you're inviting us all to a party:D :D :D ?

[SHNIPE]

lol @ the party. SWEET!!

I only said friday because IM off and i know junky can do it then as well. I work weekends so i can never attend anything on those days. if by chance we cant get it all the way out on friday then a sat run could be done. I have just missed out on the past few recoveries so i swayed the dates in my own favor :D

[macinyart]

The tires look like they have all been shot out, sitting on the frame in the sand. No fire as of Sunday AM.
N 33 36 02.8
W 111 29 48.7

Drop down into the main wash at the first play area and bear left. It is about 1/2 mile up the wash.


I read this: 1G3AY69Y6EX350823 But am upon to correction.

[lamanite480]

i have a Winch so I'd love to help, but gots to work Friday. i get off around 1pm. if its still there saturday, count me in.

[OlneyJeeps]

Crap, that looks like it is right opposite the little hill to tow out on...we had to drag exploder all the way down the wash (hardest part) to get it there

looks like piece of cake... 45 minutes tops:rolleyes:

[OlneyJeeps]

tires don't look shot out, just really stuk

[OlneyJeeps]

btw, that thing might have a 9" or at least 8.25 rear axle (joke.... ha ha):eek:

[SHNIPE]

btw, that thing might have a 9" or at least 8.25 rear axle:cool:

the 9" ran through my mind :D But i already have my plans so i cant go thieving items off abandoned/stolen/dumped crap :(

[macinyart]

tires don't look shot out, just really stuk
Steve, take it from an old guy from Wisconsin, the tires are shot out, I saw the holes. Just didn't closeup them for all to see.

[OlneyJeeps]

Looking at the picture more closely, I don't think there is a chance in Yuma you will find either a 8.25 or 9" under that thing....
IT'S AN OSMOBILE!!!!

that's a GM airconditioning compressor, GM grille
best guess a 1984ish Delta 88 Royale, probably Brougham... most came with a OHV 5.0, 4bbl carb

I was going to post more, but don't wanna go over budget on my posts

999
WA-HOO!!!!

this calls for a beer (or 6:D )

[GLEN REAMS]

ill be there guys! maybe even in the jeep :D

[daniel]

Im getting friday off so Ill be there all day

[Gordon]

I wish I could help. I have 75 people coming to my house for a party the following morning and my wife would have my arse if I was anywhere near the Jeep while making the last minute preparations.

Mike[/QUOTE]


Party HUH? And when were you going to tell the rest of us? Hmm?

OK everyone, PARTY at Mike's place! B.Y.O.W. (bring your own whatever)

Jeep tire stacking along the street to save space :) and remember, no bottles in the pool, toss them on the lawn for safety sake :)

He did advertise a party here and did not tell us to not show up, so lets not dissapoint :) :cool: ha ha

[ob1jeeper]

Looking at the picture more closely, I don't think there is a chance in Yuma you will find either a 8.25 or 9" under that thing....
IT'S AN OSMOBILE!!!!

that's a GM airconditioning compressor, GM grille
best guess a 1984ish Delta 88 Royale, probably Brougham... most came with a OHV 5.0, 4bbl carb

I was going to post more, but don't wanna go over budget on my posts

999
WA-HOO!!!!

this calls for a beer (or 6:D )
Heres what a VIN search says it is...

Vehicle Record Summary
VIN: 1G3AY69Y6EX350823

Year: 1984 Style/Body: 4 Door Sedan
Make: Oldsmobile Engine: 4.3L V6 4BBL
Model: 88 Brougham Country of Assembly: United States

[Gordon]

Heres what a VIN search says it is...

Vehicle Record Summary
VIN: 1G3AY69Y6EX350823

Year: 1984 Style/Body: 4 Door Sedan
Make: Oldsmobile Engine: 4.3L V6 4BBL
Model: 88 Brougham Country of Assembly: United States




:confused: How do you get info like that?:confused:

[FlexyXJ]

Its an OLDMOBILE. I doubt it would have either a ford or chrysler rear end in it, Besides, we dont strip vehicles, we remove them. Its not our property, so its still theft. Besides it most likely has a 7.5" 10 bolt in it. Ewwww.

Joe


btw, that thing might have a 9" or at least 8.25 rear axle:cool:

[OlneyJeeps]

QUOTE=ob1jeeper;158388]Heres what a VIN search says it is...

Vehicle Record Summary
VIN: 1G3AY69Y6EX350823

Year: 1984 Style/Body: 4 Door Sedan
Make: Oldsmobile Engine: 4.3L V6 4BBL
Model: 88 Brougham Country of Assembly: United States [/QUOTE]

Sorry charlie, but "y" =5.0 :D (sorry, you can either trust me (oops!!) or you have to open second pic for rest of chart, could not resize to fit and have exceeded my pic quota )

http://virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9820&d=1172464480


http://virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9821&d=1172464480

BTW, where did you get your vin search (hope you didn't pay for it:eek: :eek: ). As I have said before, via experience Carfax and several of those services are about as usefull as a Chiltons manual.... when you're stuck in the middle of nowhere and have tried everything else, they come in very handy.... for starting a fire!!! I have received 3 highly erroneous reports from carfax (including a van from the loss recovery section of Hertz leasing they told us had never been in an accident or ever leased:eek: ). The only good thing I can say for them is they refunded their fees (3 times) when I called them on their misreporting ( which they would have never done for my Grand Cherokee without the admission I eventually got when I confronted the prior owner ( rep. Jeff Flake....I actually trusted an "upstanding, bible thumping public servant":eek: :eek: donno much that could make me feel more stupid:mad: )



and that makes
1000!!!!(posts)

wahoo!!!

I'd like to thank the akadamie, my techers, my publicist, and the fine genulmen in Lynchberg!!

As he posted, party at mingoglia's is BYOB!!!:D

Joe....I was KIDDING (yep I forgot, not all people know how serious I am)

[mingoglia]

did you say you're inviting us all to a party:D :D :D ?

These 75 people are my wife's family... all mormon, flying in from Utah, Colorardo, and from here. There will be zero alcohol so you'll probably find it a bit boring. :D

[YJunk]

ooopsy... my bad for calling it an LTD... I obviously didn't look at it that close... I was still a little shook up from my encounter with the Suguaro Lake Cocness Monster...

Okay, that's the last one I promise... :)

[GLEN REAMS]

ooopsy... my bad for calling it an LTD... I obviously didn't look at it that close... I was still a little shook up from my encounter with the Suguaro Lake Cocness Monster...

Okay, that's the last one I promise... :)

it better be!!! is there a set time? yet guys what would be best for everyone else?

[YJunk]

Not yet... I can't roll until noon so it will be 1pm before I'm there... if there is an earlier crew; I'm gonna let them decide when to meet... We'll post up Friday how far we got and then we can coordinate saturday if we need too...

[SHNIPE]

Meet time: 9am. Anyone need to be sooner or later?
Meet Place: Green gate at back of Butcher Jones Rec.

Items to bring: Towstraps, Winches, gloves, shovels, Lunch, WATER, WATER, helmet and goggles if youre going to ride in my jeep at all :D

[GLEN REAMS]

Meet time: 9am. Anyone need to be sooner or later?
Meet Place: Green gate at back of Butcher Jones Rec.

Items to bring: Towstraps, Winches, gloves, shovels, Lunch, WATER, WATER, helmet and goggles if youre going to ride in my jeep at all :D

ill bring my helmet :cool:

[SHNIPE]

For those that arrive late:

Go through the green gate. Follow the wash back for about one mile veering to the right. Climb the first hill after the right fork and continue again. Fork to the right again when the road forks again. Continue along this route until you drop into the wash (you can see the lake from the top of the hills) Then go LEFT and continue up the wash.

Jack or Junk can you comment on how far up the wash the car is? Anyone have GPS coords that they can toss up of the first wash for those with GPS.

[GLEN REAMS]

they said it was about a half a mile north of the main play area

[macinyart]

N 33 36 02.8
W 111 29 48.7

These numbers from my first post (unidentified there) represent the approximate position of the car in GPS talk.
It is so easy to find that I found it the first try.
Go north from the Green Gate, bear to the right at the old fence that is at the foot of the first minor hill. That little wash gets a bit narrow, but there is no danger of rolling anywhere. Proceed up that wash, generally north till you see the first hill on your right, (there is a makeshift stake stuck in a little washout there, ) then go up that first hill to the right to the top,( go all the way to the top) then turn left (north) again. I found it by going to the main play area that is on both sides of the wash that goes down to the first cove. This takes you past the mudhole. Dropped into the wash, turned left (north) and stayed to the left. About a half mile up the wash I found the car.

I am planning to make the 0900 meet time with bags, grabbers, buckets, shovels and time to stay until asked to leave.

Steve is right, the hill seen in the photo (looking roughly south) might be the best bet to drag that puppy out of there. At least two of the tires are flat from gunshots.

Has anyone been able to confirm that the car is abandoned or simply stolen and not found yet? For some reason this sounds important.

Looking forward to seeing you guys out there. Don't worry about the later arrival times, I'm sure this is not going to be as easy as pulling vans out of Dixileta Wash, hey. :)

[lamanite480]

Just out of curiosity, how did a car like that, make it back there?

[SHNIPE]

more than likely stolen and romped for grins then dumped and maybe stripped. Youll see minivans and cars going back there quite often if you spend enough time there.

[YJunk]

Just out of curiosity, how did a car like that, make it back there?

Being able to drive like Shnipe is a good start...

[OlneyJeeps]

Just out of curiosity, how did a car like that, make it back there?


actually the trail it took in (probably) is SUPER easy... when we dragged the explorer out, there was a mini van :eek: (montana?) coming in... it did high center a little coming over the crest of the hill, but made it in and out otherwise.

[GLEN REAMS]

actually the trail it took in (probably) is SUPER easy... when we dragged the explorer out, there was a mini van :eek: (montana?) coming in... it did high center a little coming over the crest of the hill, but made it in and out otherwise.

where is that trail?

[OlneyJeeps]

Being able to drive like Shnipe is a good start...


it's obvious the guy WASN'T driving like Shnipe... ITS NOT UPSIDE DOWN!!!:D

[OlneyJeeps]

where is that trail?

macinart gave directions....
to find it on the way in, it is the second right turn (after that little tiny washout crack that hardly anyone :rolleyes: ever rolls over in:D :D )

if you go the normal way (which leads to big play area into 2nd big wash leading to lake), after entering the wash is about 172.54 yards down wash, look for the little hill 90deg to wasy (someone left an osmobile to mark it for you:eek: )

[GLEN REAMS]

macinart gave directions....
to find it on the way in, it is the second right turn (after that little tiny washout crack that hardly anyone :rolleyes: ever rolls over in:D :D )

if you go the normal way (which leads to big play area into 2nd big wash leading to lake), after entering the wash is about 172.54 yards down wash, look for the little hill 90deg to wasy (someone left an osmobile to mark it for you:eek: )

oh alright i know what way your talking about kinda sucks that all thos vans and cars can get out there tho, one time i was out there i saw some guy on a street bike, ive got pictures somewhere of it im going to try and find

[macinyart]

What do we have to do to stay clear of the law? And accusations of theft, vandalism and the like?

[russ1688]

I'll try to get that day off and join you guys. I'll let you know when I find out if my vacation is approved.

Was just informed that my vacation request was turned down. Sorry I'm gonna have to miss out guys.

[Sandee McCullen]

Unfortunately in the past contacting the authorities ends up demoralizing the effort as they typically don't care and you usually run into dead ends. I'm not encouraging anyone not to contact the appropriate people but personally if it was me I'd just do it and claim ignorance later. Unfortunately doing the right thing (contacting the appropriate authority) often hampers doing the right thing (removing the vehicle)

I wish I could help. I have 75 people coming to my house for a party the following morning and my wife would have my arse if I was anywhere near the Jeep while making the last minute preparations.

Mike

PLEASE DO NOT "CLAIM IGNORANCE LATER"......... A black mark against OHV is a black mark any way you look at it. Whether we like it or not there are procedures and we must respect them. I have NEVER had a problem with sheriff dept. helping us with disposal instructions and they have always thanked us for VIN #'s and vehicle info. It enables them to close a lot of files they wouldn't normally be able to do.

I just tried contacting Art Wirtz, Mesa District Ranger, but I believe he's out of town with a Region 3 Leadership Meeting. Contact the sheriff for stolen vehicle report or disposal procedures. There's absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to get these burned or abandoned vehicles out and off the lands but it must be done via proper procedures. If the sheriffs dept. has this vehicle logged as stolen they then notify the insurance company. If sheriff dept. then tells you they don't want to be involved in disposal and you have a plan for disposal you could probably do whatever but you have to have the means to haul it OUT as well as a place to take it to. Most junk yards etc will not accept it without a notice/clearance from the sheriff regarding stolen or not.

[macinyart]

Thanks Sandee,
I am in the process of clearing this with MCSO and the FS. I spoke with a MCSO deputy who will check this out and get back to me. I have a message left with the FS, but as of noon, no response. I agree that is better to go out there prepared with legal sanction than to try to talk our way out of trouble. I described to the deputy where it is and he says he is going to take his Expedition out there in a little while and call me back later today. He told me that vehicles were a lot different than just hauling trash out. Also he said, the next time we find a car out there to call him, he likes to four wheel out there. He will run the VIN against the stolen list and try to find the registered owner and let me know. I will post up again for the group later today hopefully. We all want that thing out of there.

[Sandee McCullen]

Thanks Sandee,
I am in the process of clearing this with MCSO and the FS. I spoke with a MCSO deputy who will check this out and get back to me. I have a message left with the FS, but as of noon, no response. I agree that is better to go out there prepared with legal sanction than to try to talk our way out of trouble. I described to the deputy where it is and he says he is going to take his Expedition out there in a little while and call me back later today. He told me that vehicles were a lot different than just hauling trash out. Also he said, the next time we find a car out there to call him, he likes to four wheel out there. He will run the VIN against the stolen list and try to find the registered owner and let me know. I will post up again for the group later today hopefully. We all want that thing out of there.

Just spoke with a FS Ranger, Robin Tease (sp), and she is reading these posts as I'm responding. She will follow through for you guys. Her number is 928.701.1150.
Might suggest we start a "contact list" of persons/numbers to contact to help us through a proper process. I know we come across these issues every time we go out........ make a plan.
Thanks guys..........

[YJunk]

Well gang... I'm not sure what to say at this point... It doesn't sound like we've got the okay yet to do this and I don't want to get our arses in a sling (or cell)...

Plus I don't want a bunch of people to make special arrangemnts to be there tomorrow if we don't know for certain if this is doable...

Maybe we should hold off on this until we have some sort of approval and a place to take the pig.

[wedge]

I'd like to help in the afternoon, or if you do it another day. No winch, but I have a shovel, and muscle to lend.

[daniel]

i SAY WE SOULD STILL DO SOME WHEEL. WE PLANED ON GOING OUT THERE SO i KNOW SOME GUYS HAVE THE TIME. I JUST PUT NEW TIRES ON WELL KIND OF NEW NEW TO ME ANYHOW LIKE TO TRY THEM OUT.SO ANYONE THAT FEELS UP TO WHEELING iM GAME

[GLEN REAMS]

Well gang... I'm not sure what to say at this point... It doesn't sound like we've got the okay yet to do this and I don't want to get our arses in a sling (or cell)...

Plus I don't want a bunch of people to make special arrangemnts to be there tomorrow if we don't know for certain if this is doable...

Maybe we should hold off on this until we have some sort of approval and a place to take the pig.

junkie did you post this before you read sandees post?

[macinyart]

Follow up.
Since this is a vehicle and not just trash I contacted MCSO. The response that I have now is that a deputy will meet with me at 0900 at the green gate. (As far as I know I don't have a rap sheet.) I was not told that we couldn't do this so as far as I am concerned it is definite go. The deputy that I spoke with earlier today was not at all negative. They want the same things we do and I think the thrust is that we just need to do it with the proper sanctions so we don't have to "ask forgiveness" (see Sandee's posts) later. I just wish I could have gone out there with deputy and his Expedition to see how it did on the trail. I am going out there in the morning and plan to at least pick up the small stuff around the wreck in preparation for the afternoon arrival of those who have said they would be there. I expect to meet the deputy at the gate while airing down. I am told that all the deputies on the Lake section drive Expeditions. This should be fun stuff. So let's see you all out there. Still no email response from FS?

[GLEN REAMS]

Follow up.
Since this is a vehicle and not just trash I contacted MCSO. The response that I have now is that a deputy will meet with me at 0900 at the green gate. (As far as I know I don't have a rap sheet.) I was not told that we couldn't do this so as far as I am concerned it is definite go. The deputy that I spoke with earlier today was not at all negative. They want the same things we do and I think the thrust is that we just need to do it with the proper sanctions so we don't have to "ask forgiveness" (see Sandee's posts) later. I just wish I could have gone out there with deputy and his Expedition to see how it did on the trail. I am going out there in the morning and plan to at least pick up the small stuff around the wreck in preparation for the afternoon arrival of those who have said they would be there. I expect to meet the deputy at the gate while airing down. I am told that all the deputies on the Lake section drive Expeditions. This should be fun stuff. So let's see you all out there. Still no email response from FS?

well jack this post just cleared up alot of questions for me ill be there probably not right at 9 but i will be there should be fun to wheel with a cop :D so we should all be on are best behaviors and i will help with the cleaning up since my jeep wont pull that car up no hills

[daniel]

Ill be there but unlike my ROC bros I can get there on time:D

[russ1688]

i SAY WE SOULD STILL DO SOME WHEEL. WE PLANED ON GOING OUT THERE SO i KNOW SOME GUYS HAVE THE TIME. I JUST PUT NEW TIRES ON WELL KIND OF NEW NEW TO ME ANYHOW LIKE TO TRY THEM OUT.SO ANYONE THAT FEELS UP TO WHEELING iM GAME

Daniel:

After much grovelling and pleading I was able to get my vacation reapproved at the end of the day. So, I'll be out there whether we work or play!

Cya at the cattle guard at 9.

Russ.

[GLEN REAMS]

Daniel:

After much grovelling and pleading I was able to get my vacation reapproved at the end of the day. So, I'll be out there whether we work or play!

Cya at the cattle guard at 9.

Russ.

well i dont want to stand out and be the odd ball i guess ill be there at 9:o

[Gordon]

WOW! I mentioned this way back, message #10, and you all still haven't got the proper authorities OK yet? Geez people!

[daniel]

WOW! I mentioned this way back, message #10, and you all still haven't got the proper authorities OK yet? Geez people!

I thought it said that the 5.0 was going too meet us there:confused:

[YJunk]

junkie did you post this before you read sandees post?

Maybe I miss read her last post... She had spoken to sosmeone who was reading the thread but I didn't take that as an approval to move forward. It sounds like jack has someone coming out to meet him there at 9...

I can't be out there before 1 so I'll try to catch up with everyone then... I haven't heard from Shnipe in a couple of days and I'm honestly not sure where the "ultimate" resting place of this thing is supposed to be...

Lets just be sure we have our butts covered... I don't have a good sense right now of what rigs we have, who has winches or where we are dropping the rig and who is picking it up from there. I'd feel better if we had more input from FS other than someone is meeting us at the gate.

See you this afternoon...

[YJunk]

WOW! I mentioned this way back, message #10, and you all still haven't got the proper authorities OK yet? Geez people!

well I don't think its for lack of trying, but it kind of feels that way and I'm not sure how confident I feel about attempting this right now without some kind of approval...

[macinyart]

Update on the Oldsmobile in the wash.
Robin Thees (sp) Tease (sp) is a ranger with the FS. She will meet me at 0900 at the Green Gate. My information at this point is that the vehicle is not stolen, Robin says therefore we don't need the MCSO and she will deal with it. This is my first contact with the FS. I emailed Jason S in the Mesa office a couple of days ago and made the suggestion that we get it to the upstream area of the gate and they would take it from there. I have heard nothing to the contrary yet and expect Robin to confirm this point this morning. She called here yesterday and left a message ( I will meet with Jack at the gate at 0900) with my wife and I think that if we were in trouble with this plan that Robin would have told us that rather than, I will meet you at the gate in the morning. So, let us soldier on and pull that thing out. I plan to have most of the small stuff and general debris collected before noon.

[GLEN REAMS]

well im up on time(kinda) so i wont be too late junkie head on out russ with be there he has a winch and lockers jack has a winch and lockers and i havent really read any of the other posts as to who is all going but i know you rig will help alot i havent herd from shnipe either in days last i herd they were running off to vegas or something like that :confused: :confused: :confused:

[rhino105]

Vin # does not currently show as reported stolen. http://theftaz.azag.gov/

[YJunk]

well im up on time(kinda) so i wont be too late junkie head on out russ with be there he has a winch and lockers jack has a winch and lockers and i havent really read any of the other posts as to who is all going but i know you rig will help alot i havent herd from shnipe either in days last i herd they were running off to vegas or something like that :confused: :confused: :confused:

WTF... You don't suppose the boy is gonna get Eloped do ya? Sheeeoooot; soon he'll be sellin his rig for a mini-van... I'm trying to get out o here early today to get my arse up there...

[YJunk]

Vin # does not currently show as reported stolen. http://theftaz.azag.gov/



okay... maybe they were just looking for some cheap long term parking... I wonder how that affects the extraction legality... I'm so confused... which of course has nothing to do with this... but it doesn't help damit!!!

What if the car is out of state... would it still show on that sight? Thanks for the link by the way!!

[macinyart]

Here are some of the images from the removal of the Oldsmobile from Butcher Jones.
We tried to take the vehicle up the first hill, didn't work. Pulled it down to the first play area and were successful in pulling it up with YJUNK in the lead. Russ hooked to the car. Pulled it all the way out to the pavement beyond the green gate. FS was present, Robin, to make sure all went well.
9862

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[Wayco]

Jack, did you learn to post pic's from Daniel? Never mind, just tell us if you got it out of there... :D

[macinyart]

Look again, you caught me in the process.

[Phx Cobra]

Awesome guys, wish I could have been there to help out. God knows there unfortunatly is many more cars out in the desert, so we will have to make this a regular thing and get these things out of our wheeling areas!

BTW, nice tires Daniel!! Your Jeep looks mean now, instead of like Junkys head.....Bald!! :D

[macinyart]

Three members of the crew, Russ, Glen and I think Daniel went back out the second cove area to check on another vehicle that has been there for a while. I trust they will post up when they get back in town?

[wedge]

I showed up as they were leaving with the car on the flatbed, didn't see anyone though, except glens XJ sitting empty on the trail.

Then went in, up and over to the second ridge, no problem, coming back, took a steeper line up to the first ridge to the right, and learned something I woulda liked to know before, my front driveshaft is a bit short!!!! right at the crest of the hill pulled itself out of the splines, and started flopping around.

Fortunatly no damage, but it got a bunch of dirt on it, and I didn't have stuff to clean it up, so I tied it up out of the way, and made my way out in 2wd. knock on wood nothing broke.

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sorrry I missed you guys, maybe next time.

[daniel]

russ and I ( glen did what he is best at:D Parked his rig and found an open seat) pulled the truck as far as we could befor my strap got cut. All went well I did not brake I did however forget to PULL MY E-BRAKE and my rig did some wheeling of its own!!!!!!!!!

[daniel]

BTW, nice tires Daniel!! Your Jeep looks mean now, instead of like Junkys head.....Bald!! :D[/QUOTE]


HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA:p :p :D :eek: :eek:
that a good one:D :D

[russ1688]

Three members of the crew, Russ, Glen and I think Daniel went back out the second cove area to check on another vehicle that has been there for a while. I trust they will post up when they get back in town?

We hunted around and found the remains of the Chevy Blazer in the cove 2 wash right where Glen and I had remembered. Totally stripped. No motor, axles, top, gas tank... nothing.

Daniel and I tandem strapped and pulled it up out of the wash. We pulled until Daniel's strap broke. I didn't pull any further alone as I'd developed some transmission noises I need to look into. So I pulled it off the side of the road. It now resides a few hundred yards before you get to the rock with a "2" on it leading towards cove 2.

Ranger Robin has been called and told what we did. I'm sending a pic of the VIN tag to her tonight and she'll run it. If it's abandoned it'll be an easy recovery. If it's stolen it's now easy to find so MCSO can easily get to it.

BTW all, Robin also reiterated her appreciation for all the effort today. I sure had a great time. It was fun to hook up with guys I hadn't seen in a while and, as always, great to meet some for the first time.

[russ1688]

Here are some of the images from the removal of the Oldsmobile from Butcher Jones.
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This is where Junkie and I were pulling the Olds up out of wash 1. Did anyone get video of this? That car was bouncing ALL around and it'd be fun to see.

[macinyart]

Russ,
I didn't see anyone else doing the imaging thing. There probably isn't any video. It was really fun to see you guys in operation. I do have more photos that I can email to anyone who likes. More later.

[GLEN REAMS]

russ post up the pictures you took today if ya wouldnt mind

[GLEN REAMS]

BTW, nice tires Daniel!! Your Jeep looks mean now, instead of like Junkys head.....Bald!! :D

now i got the tires that are as bald as junkies head :D

[russ1688]

russ post up the pictures you took today if ya wouldnt mind

Didn't have much time to get pics. Here are a few of Glen and Daniel celebrating victory by humiliating the vanquished foe.

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[YJunk]

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this is where I had to strap russ up over the bunny trail... poor little rubicon just couldn't make it... haha

Thanks for all your help today gang; that actually went pretty smooth...

Russ, really appreciate you pulling that pig all the way out; I hope we didn't cook your tranny... that car would be a bit much for a jeep to tow if it was on a trailer, much less diggin trenches down the wash for a couple of miles.

I ended back out at jones tonight and played around for several more hours... good times...

[YJunk]

Awesome guys, wish I could have been there to help out. God knows there unfortunatly is many more cars out in the desert, so we will have to make this a regular thing and get these things out of our wheeling areas!

BTW, nice tires Daniel!! Your Jeep looks mean now, instead of like Junkys head.....Bald!! :D

haha you effers bustin on my bald head... yous bats know your jealous... don't be hatin...

[David C]

I took a few pics today but I did not get any video this time. Great job today guys! Even with some standing around scratching our heads, and an aborted attempt up the first hill, we still got that car to the parking lot in about 3 hours. :) It makes a huge difference when it still has wheels underneath! I grabbed a hammer and prybar and busted the column open so we could put it in neutral. Russ was the powerhouse today with his Rubicon locked front and rear and YJunk hooked ahead of him for most of the way. The rest of us trailed and collected debris that fell off and general trash all along the way. Great day - it is always a good time on cleanups! We had 7 rigs total plus Robin, the Forest Service LEO who came out to join us today. She mentioned a number of times how appreciative the FS is of our volunteer cleanup work and thanked us for todays efforts. She was a great person to have along - very friendly and informative and truly motivated to be there, sharing the same goals we strive for in keeping the areas clean and safe. She also gave us her contact information for future activities and expressed a desire to work with us more. She also said she owns a Jeep but it needs some work. Here are the pics I took today:

Russ in tandem with YJunk ahead of him
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They pulled it to the top quickly and easily
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Victory poser shot: rigs - Glen, Daniel, YJunk and mine
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Glen, the Hunchback of Butcher Jones
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Daniel, Russ and Robin
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Macinyart, YJunk and Steve drying their laundry on Russ's winch line
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[GLEN REAMS]

haha that picture of me is so funny david! just for the record im not a hunch back i was just trying to stay out of the picture, oh well

[GLEN REAMS]

Just spoke with a FS Ranger, Robin Tease (sp), and she is reading these posts as I'm responding. She will follow through for you guys. Her number is
Might suggest we start a "contact list" of persons/numbers to contact to help us through a proper process. I know we come across these issues every time we go out........ make a plan.
Thanks guys..........

Sandee hate to bust on you or anything like that but robin asked that you please remove her number from your post since it is her person number and not a work number

[daniel]

Glen don't you have some pics of the truck? Put that up

[OlneyJeeps]

great job!!!! wish I could have made it (like there won't be a next time)

[YJunk]

Just for future reference; if anyone wants to plan one of these again (and you didn't write Robin's number down) we have it. So feel free to contact me or Glenn or DJ or Russ or me or David or me or Jack... you get it. I finally feel like we have a good contact for that area (thanks Sandee) who really appreciates the fact that we're willing to help.

On a side note... we didn't have to make any arrangements for the tow truck etc; robin took care of that... she was just thankfull to get it out there where it could be picked up. She honestly made the process pretty easy; all we had to do was find someone willing to smoke their transmission in the process... By the next time we do this I should have my 4:1 gears in so I should have a little more grunt; its almost like addiing another squirl to the spinning wheel.

[OlneyJeeps]

For what its worth, TNF has alwayw been rather agreeable/helpful to me... I have helped with 3 cars and they all were picked up within a day... they also have given me gobs of trash bags every time I ask

[russ1688]

... all we had to do was find someone willing to smoke their transmission in the process...

Junky:

The way I see it, just an installment on the cost of playing. :D

BTW, it doesn't appear to have smoked. Works normally in 2WD and 4HI. Loud clunking noises when shifting between Reverse - Neutral - Forward in 4LO. Unusual symptom for an auto tranny problem. :confused: Daniel and Glen crawled underneath and located the noise to the tranny pan while we were out running.

I'll get it into the shop on jackstands this weekend and isolate the issue. My hunch is that it's nothing too big.

[YJunk]

Junky:

The way I see it, just an installment on the cost of playing. :D

BTW, it doesn't appear to have smoked. Works normally in 2WD and 4HI. Loud clunking noises when shifting between Reverse - Neutral - Forward in 4LO. Unusual symptom for an auto tranny problem. :confused: Daniel and Glen crawled underneath and located the noise to the tranny pan while we were out running.

I'll get it into the shop on jackstands this weekend and isolate the issue. My hunch is that it's nothing too big.

I hope its nothing serious... maybe I should have stayed hooked on so we could have shared the load a little more. I don't know what we could do to help, but if you need it, give us a shout!

[GLEN REAMS]

Glen don't you have some pics of the truck? Put that up

the only pictures i have of the truck your tires are in them :rolleyes: ill post them up when i get a chance