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43635 From: Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 3:17pm
Subject: RE: My Jeep is finally mine.
Actually, now that you are married it's only 50% yours.
Hehe
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe West [mailto:joew@a...]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:19 PM
To: JNB4PLS@a...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] My Jeep is finally mine.
What a great way to look at things! I can pretend that I didn't pay it off
and then just buy upgrades with the payment!
Great Idea John!
<grin>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JNB4PLS@a... [mailto:JNB4PLS@a...]
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:05 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; joew@a...
> Subject: [az_vjc] My Jeep is finally mine.
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> Look at all that extra money you can now throw at the Jeep
> Joe. Whooo Hooo,
> Congratulations.
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43636 From: Karl Bond <karl.bond@a...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 3:21pm
Subject: RE: Katchina Rescue?
They provide medical services for mountain bike races.
-----Original Message-----
From: flyboy0417@aol.com [mailto:flyboy0417@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 3:00 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Katchina Rescue?
Does anybody know anything about an organization called Katchina Rescue??
Zeus
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43637 From: <tandljacobson@a...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 10:26am
Subject: RE: New Holley off road carb
I don't have that specific new carb, but coincidentally that ad showed up about the same time I bought a Holley 390 from Randy Siade who had it set up nearly identical to the new carb in the ad. I've run with it the last 2 weekends and it has yet to even sputter. Randy can probably attest to it's ability better than I, as I bet he's had it on more difficult terrain than I've wheeled it...yet!
Message: 7
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 04:07:56 -0000
From: "steverino1112000"
Subject: New Holley off road carb
I saw in the March Petersons off road magazine a new carb by Holley
for off road use. It features one piece vent tubes and a modified
metering block to eliminte spillover at severe angles. Looked pretty
interesting and wondered if anyone has tried it yet. Also where is
the best place to buy Holley locally or internet(price).
43638 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 10:43am
Subject: Re: Re: Summer
ok...you caught on to me :) I was hoping that you wouldnt notice but now that the cat is out of the bag...could I have your old lift...I really need to do something here.
Sharky
( stock 97 TJ with foam thingies)
43639 From: Rick <ricknhall@c...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 3:45pm
Subject: Funny I got Shorter
After the long ordeal of buying my Jeep, Darner made me stand for a picture before I could leave. At the time I thought it was really stupid but I do have a shot of my rig before mods which was kind of nice. Recently I completed most of what I wanted to do to the Jeep so I thought I would recreate the same shot that Darner took. To my surprise I look shorter rather than the Jeep looking taller. BTW - My Jeep was dubbed the Barbie Jeep with the white top so if you think Smurf is bad think again.
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43640 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 10:45am
Subject: Re: Summer
Thats the "one" thing I havent tried yet...thanks for the idea :) LOL
Sharky (stock 97 TJ with foam thingies, soon to be tested upside down in the water)
43641 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 10:50am
Subject: Re: Re: My Jeep is finally mine.
cool...how much longer until the decals are paid off? :)
Sharky
43642 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 4:20pm
Subject: Re: Waxing Jeeps
Pam works too...
----- Original Message -----
From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
To: "vpheiple" <vpheiple@m...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:49 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Waxing Jeeps
> You want dirt to stick to your Jeep... use Armor All.
>
> Joey K
> 93YJ
> www.desertjeep.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vpheiple [mailto:vpheiple@m...]
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:38 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Waxing Jeeps
>
>
> I have seen pictures on this sight of alot of Jeeps. I see exactly
> none with any dirt on them. I don't think in Arizona the dirt sticks
> to your Jeeps, or someone is stretching the truth about washing and
> waxing. After ten years of setting under a cover my faded CJ5 needed
> at least one wax job, and I look forward to seeing if I can get any
> Arizona dirt to stick to it, I didn't have any problem with Northwest
> mud sticking to my other rigs so from what I have seen from the
> pictures I may have my work cut out for me.
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43643 From: vpheiple <vpheiple@m...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 4:40pm
Subject: Anybody got a picture of a dirty Jeep
I haven't found a dirty Jeep in AZ yet, Pam and Armor All, what you
can't make dirt stick without adding something, how about some EP2
grease that should do the trick. All I want to see is a picture of
one dirty Jeep in Arizona, from this club.
43644 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 4:45pm
Subject: [TR] Unspecified - Saturday, February 23, 2002
Hello All,
Jannelle Radoccia is leading an Unspecified trail run on Saturday, February 23, 2002.
When: Saturday, would like to meet at 8:00a
Where: TBD Please call to confirm you are going and we will arrange a meeting place.
Rating: None
Length: All Day
CB Channel: 4
Desoto Mine - It is North of Crown King, it should be very scenic, trail rating is equal to the Lake Pleasant to Crown King trail, but shows some interesting areas on the map. We have not run this before, we will be doing it by map and GPS unless someone has run it and wants to lead the way.
If you are interested please call us at 623-975-6072 or 623-340-0885 and we will iron out the details.
Chris and Jannelle
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
43645 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 4:55pm
Subject: RE: Anybody got a picture of a dirty Jeep
Whoops section on the web site.
Joey K
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vpheiple [mailto:vpheiple@m...]
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 5:40 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Anybody got a picture of a dirty Jeep
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> I haven't found a dirty Jeep in AZ yet, Pam and Armor All, what you
> can't make dirt stick without adding something, how about some EP2
> grease that should do the trick. All I want to see is a picture of
> one dirty Jeep in Arizona, from this club.
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43646 From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 4:56pm
Subject: Re: Waxing Jeeps
She gota sista??
Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "DougB" <azjeep@c...> wrote:
> Pam works too...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
> To: "vpheiple" <vpheiple@m...>; <az_vjc@y...>
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:49 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Waxing Jeeps
>
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> > You want dirt to stick to your Jeep... use Armor All.
> >
> > Joey K
> > 93YJ
> > www.desertjeep.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vpheiple [mailto:vpheiple@m...]
> > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:38 PM
> > To: az_vjc@y...
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Waxing Jeeps
> >
> >
> > I have seen pictures on this sight of alot of Jeeps. I see exactly
> > none with any dirt on them. I don't think in Arizona the dirt
sticks
> > to your Jeeps, or someone is stretching the truth about washing
and
> > waxing. After ten years of setting under a cover my faded CJ5
needed
> > at least one wax job, and I look forward to seeing if I can get
any
> > Arizona dirt to stick to it, I didn't have any problem with
Northwest
> > mud sticking to my other rigs so from what I have seen from the
> > pictures I may have my work cut out for me.
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43647 From: Chris benner <offroadfun@t...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 5:08pm
Subject: Re: Anybody got a picture of a dirty Jeep
I loved this mud bog I hit.
although I always seem to find the stinky mud puddles that attract flies.
btw, my jeep is green not brown.
----- Original Message -----
From: "vpheiple" <vpheiple@msn.com>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 5:40 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Anybody got a picture of a dirty Jeep
> I haven't found a dirty Jeep in AZ yet, Pam and Armor All, what you
> can't make dirt stick without adding something, how about some EP2
> grease that should do the trick. All I want to see is a picture of
> one dirty Jeep in Arizona, from this club.
>
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43648 From: steverino1112000 <steverino1112000@y...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 5:13pm
Subject: Re: LAST CALL: Axle Alley Saturday 2.23
I really want to go but I promised the kids we could play on Martinez
tommorow. Maybe another time.
Nick Smith
--- In az_vjc@y..., "dionbozman" <amstaff@e...> wrote:
> Last call. We've got room for one more rig for Axle Alley on
Saturday
> morning. Blake Van de Loo, Tom Le and myself are running it for
sure
> and one more rig would be fine.
>
> You'll need: 35s, gears, lockers, winch and a desire to get it
awwnnn!
> LOL. If you wanna go, call or e-mail me for specifics:
> amstaff@e... or 480.460.0399
> Dion
43649 From: Casper <casper@c...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 5:16pm
Subject: XJ Questions?
Hello Gang,
I have had nearly everything done on the XJ that I can think of. I still have a rumbling noise in the front end. I had the steering overhauled by FlexyXJ, and it is GREAT! I checked out all of the u-joints and they are great. I did take off the front drive shaft to see if the noise disappeared, and no it was still there. Has anyone ever had anything like this come up in there jeep history? And has anyone had any experience with front wheel bearings? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Casper
43650 From: Clint Ramsey <cwramsey@t...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 4:59pm
Subject: RE: New to this
Papa smurf goes Goth
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From:
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[mailto:sentto-1011514-36445-1014419086-cwramsey=theriver.com@r...
oups.yahoo.com] On Behalf Of Scott Kruize
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 4:05 PM
To: Chris Krieg; Wade Ungaro; DougB; arizonajeep@c...
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] New to this
Papa Smurf discovers black hair dye? I missed that episode.
Hehe
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 3:01 PM
To: Wade Ungaro; DougB; arizonajeep@c...
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] New to this
They all have color envy. Hopefully sometime this year our Jeeps will
look
more similar. I'm ditching the ripped white top and getting a black top.
Chris K
> From: Wade Ungaro <swaders7@y...>
> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 10:59:53 -0800 (PST)
> To: DougB <azjeep@c...>, arizonajeep@c..., Chris Krieg
<rv6a@m...>
> Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] New to this
>
> Uou guys all crack me up! Chris I checked out your
> Jeep and it's identical to mine...finally I've found
> another. There are none like ours in Chicago.
> Actually they're not identical because mine isn't as
> modified as yours and I have a black top. But at
> least I've found one the same "Lapis" blue as mine.
> Thanks for the funny input guys!
>
> ~Wade
>
>
> --- DougB <azjeep@c...> wrote:
>> Yup...as Papa Smurf says...Lapis....yea...that's
>> it...Lapis
>>
>> :o)
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chris Krieg" <rv6a@m...>
>> To: <arizonajeep@c...>
>> Cc: "'swaders7'" <swaders7@y...>;
>> <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] New to this
>>
>>
>>> Ummm.... No, that's not the name of my TJ.
>>> The official color is Lapis blue. That is also the
>> color of my TJ.
>>>
>>> If you want to see mine, got to
>> http://www.arizonatj.com
>>>
>>> Welcome to AZ. Hope to see you on the trails some
>> time.
>>>
>>> Chris K
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 21, 2002, at 05:43 PM, Joe
>> W wrote:
>>>
>>>> I believe it is called "Smurf" blue.
>>>> <grin>
>>>>
>>>> Joe West
>>>>
>>>> PS Chris Krieg's Jeep is Smurf blue and its
>> nickname is mama-smurf.
>>>> Maybe
>>>> you could call yours papa-smurf and together you
>> could make
>>>> baby-smurfs...
>>>>
>>>> <laugh>
>>>>
>>>> Boy I just crack myself up sometimes...
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43651 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 5:09pm
Subject: Re: horsepower modifications?
I'll betch'ya that my boyfriend's Dodge Cummins (hauling a 5000# trailer
behind it) can whomp your 'lil Jeep in the 1/4-mile! ;-) Just kidding.
That would be embarassing. LOL!!!!
Linda
Kilr650@a... wrote:
>
> Horsepower and torque are two separate things. The way I understand it
> is horsepower is good for speed and torque is the twisting force an engine
> has. Torque is what gets you going and allows you to pull heavy loads.
> Ideally you'd what high torque and horsepower #'s. A well rounded engine
> would have the torque/horsepower rating about the same, for example 400 HP &
> 400 ft lbs torque.
>
> Another way I like to think about it is to look at diesel engine. They
> generally accelerate slowly but can pull large loads. Its not uncommon for a
> diesel engine to have a rating of something like 250 hp & 550 ft lbs torque.
>
> I'd say most Jeepers would want smooth torque which is what the I-6
> has. I hope this helps. If anyone thinks I need correcting please speak up.
>
> Eddie
> '98 TJ SE
>
> Joey wrote:
>
> Question for anyone. Is there a difference in horsepower for speed and
> horsepower for torque? Or does horsepower just mean horsepower and it is the
> back of the engine that controls the torque.
>
> Joey K
> 93YJ
> www.desertjeep.com
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43652 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 5:13pm
Subject: Re: horsepower modifications?
Or a Cummins 4BT. 330 ft-lbs of torque at 1500 rpm. And good fuel
mileage to boot!
Linda
> Ross Skinner wrote:
>
> You best power upgrade is GEARS!
>
> Unless you want to dump a V8 in, a well thought out diff, trany and
> transfer case gearing is the best bet. and cheaper in the long run.
> Ross
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred [mailto:fredtj@h...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:56 AM
> To: Scott Kruize
> Cc: AZ_VJC
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] horsepower modifications?
>
> JP, I believe it was, did that test. If you look (and read)
> closely, you'll see that they really got nothing !!!!! It
> wasn't 2 ~ 4%, but maybe 2 ~ 4 hp, but that's all well
> within the error margin of the dyno.
> The strokers do seem to produce some useful gains, and I
> think one of the superchargers does/did (the Rimmer one
> maybe). The other superchargers certainly produce more HP
> and torque, but it's all about what I would consider
> "useable" range, like above 3000 RPM.. Even the test in the
> magazine (JP ?) they didn't start looking at the results
> until above 2000 RPM, and most of the "gain" was seen way
> above that. When I'm wheeling, I'm rearly above 2000 rpm,
> maybe a little in the 2000 ~ 2500 range. BTW, the magazine
> qualified the results, or should I say, lack of results (I'm
> sure to try and please the advetisers), by saying "well, the
> vehicle *felt* better or *sounded* better. Hell that and
> $0.55 will buy me a soda.
>
> Cheers,
> Fred
>
> Scott Kruize wrote:
>
> > One of the mags did a test and slapped on a bunch of mods
> > such as exhaust,
> > computer chip, intake, etc and only got a 2-4% improvement
> > and sacrificed
> > lowe end torque to gain the higher end horsepower. What we
> > all want in a
> > Jeep is is more low end torque, not high end horsepower.
> > Now the Hesco stroker kit on the other hand is a true mod
> > that gets some low
> > end power by increasing your displacement from 4.0 to 4.7L
> > which offers V8
> > torque and horsepower from the straight 6.
> > http://www.bc4x4.com/tech/bryce/stroker/stroker.cfm
> > http://www.hescosc.com/cgi-bin/ez-catalog/cat_display.cgi?3X364946#k
> > http://www.off-road.com/jee
> > p/cherokee/98/04_apr/cored2.html
> > Scott K
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Shadow Wolf [mailto:shadowwolf@l...]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 8:14 AM
> > To: flyboy0417@a...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; Scott
> > Kruize
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] horsepower modifications?
> > What about those turbo city upgrades. They don't give a
> > whole lot but every
> > little bit does from what I hear. Also they make a
> > stroker kit for the
> > 4.0L I-6 that is suppose to bump it up to 260hp and 350
> > lbs torque. But
> > other than that I don't know of any other than what Scott
> > said.
> > David
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Scott Kruize" <scottkruize@eart
> > hlink.net>
> > To: <flyboy0417@a...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:41 PM
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] horsepower modifications?
> >
> > > Been around Jeeps for years. I've owned 2 of them. Short
> > > of a V8 swap or
> > > installing a supercharger save your money.
> > > One of the Jeep mags did some tests lately that agree
> > > with what I've been
> > > saying for years.
> > > Scott K
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: flyboy0417@a... [mailto:flyboy0417@a...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 3:45 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] horsepower modifications?
> > > What are some horsepower mods i that are under 300 bucks
> > > and install
> > >
> > easily
> >
> > > besides intake and exhaust??? I have a 4.0L six cyl.
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43653 From: Chris benner <offroadfun@t...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 5:41pm
Subject: Re: Anybody got a picture of a dirty Jeep
Here's a great picture prooving that mud won't stick to your jeep. we tried
really hard to get this white jeep dirty.
----- Original Message -----
From: "vpheiple" <vpheiple@msn.com>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 5:40 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Anybody got a picture of a dirty Jeep
> I haven't found a dirty Jeep in AZ yet, Pam and Armor All, what you
> can't make dirt stick without adding something, how about some EP2
> grease that should do the trick. All I want to see is a picture of
> one dirty Jeep in Arizona, from this club.
>
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43654 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 5:16pm
Subject: Re: Re: horsepower modifications?
The 4.0l I6 has 305 N.m @ 4000 rpm.
Scott Kruize wrote:
>
> I'm going to assume you are being sarcastic.
>
> Scott K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wishmaaker [mailto:wishmaaker@y...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 8:34 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: horsepower modifications?
>
> Since I purchased my jeep I have heard rumors that a 4 cyc has more
> torque then the I-6. Is there any truth to that?
>
> TIA
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "DesertJeep" <joey@d...> wrote:
> > Thanks for the lesson teach! I understand a bit better now. Thanks.
> >
> > Joey K
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: az_jeeper_mike [mailto:azvjc@a...]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 8:22 AM
> > To: az_vjc@y...
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: horsepower modifications?
> >
> >
> > Generally speaking, Torque is the ability to do work. Horsepower is
> > how fast that work gets done. Part of the equation for horsepower
> is
> > time (i.e. Revolutions Per MINUTE) whereas Torque is measured
> without
> > reference to time.
> >
> > Some equations for you:
> > Horse Power = (RPM x Torque)/5252
> > Torque = (5252 x Horse Power)/RPM
> > RPM = (5252 x Horse Power)/Torque
> >
> > Think of it this way:
> >
> > You have two engines, one has 5hp and one has 500hp, both produce
> 500
> > ft/lbs of torque.
> >
> > You connect this to an axle that will break at 500ftlbs. With the
> > first engine (5hp) it slowly twists the axle until it snaps in half.
> > With the second engine, it just instantly snaps the axle in half.
> >
> > Lets explore the reason why, using the third equation:
> > First Engine:
> > RPM = (5252 x HP)/T
> > RPM = (5252 x 5)/500
> > RPM = 52.52
> >
> > Second Engine:
> > RPM = (5252 x 500)/500
> > RPM = 5252
> >
> > As you can see, while both engines are creating the same amount of
> > torque, the second is doing it at a much faster rate.
> >
> > The problem with most horsepower add ons, is that it they raise the
> > RPM at which the power is made. This is why High Horsepower/High
> RPM
> > application will snap axles in a hurry, while a Lower Horsepower/Low
> > RPM, but same torque will not.
> >
> > You want to see stuff break in a hurry, hook up one of those Pro-
> > Stock Drag Racing engines to a Dana 44. Let say it makes
> > 1000hp/1000ftlbs torque @5252 RPM (5252 is the RPM at which
> > HP=Torque), I don't know what these guys run for gears, but I'm
> > guessing when they take off from the line it is the neighborhood of
> > 10:1. That means that 10,000 ftlbs of torque are going to the rear
> > axles @ about 525 RPM (Engine RPM/Gear Ratio).
> >
> > Now take that same D44 and put it behind one of our built Jeeps. To
> > keep things simple lets say a 5:1 first gear (standard), 4:1
> > Transfercase and 4:1 and lets say our Jeep engine makes 250ft/lbs at
> > 2000 RPM. 5 x 4 x 4 = 80 and 80 x 250 = 20,000 LOOK AT THAT! Twice
> > the amount of torque at the axle as our Pro-Stock car example. But,
> > the difference is the axles are only spinning at 25 RPM.
> >
> > So why aren't we going through axles faster? Two reasons. 1. Parts
> > such as axles tend to resist slow steady torque much better than
> > instantaneous fast torque (i.e. launching that Pro-Stock car out of
> > the hole) AND #2. Engines don't produce the maximum HP/Torque at a
> > given RPM always. For instance when you accelerate, more energy
> > (torque) is needed to get your Jeep up to speed. Once at that
> speed,
> > however, not as much power is needed. For instance if your engine
> can
> > produce 100hp at 500rpm (Idle), does that mean that it is producing
> > 100hp when you're sitting at a light with the clutch in? No, the
> > engine is only producing enough power to keep itself running (along
> > with turning all of those accessories like power steering,
> altinator,
> > etc..) Now off road is a different story, say you're idling along at
> > 500rpm over some rocks. You can tell when the engine is about to
> die,
> > so you give it some more gas -- at that point (just before you give
> > it gas) the engine is producing it's maximum of 100hp.
> >
> > Does this help, or am I just making things worse???
> >
> > - Mike
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., Kilr650@a... wrote:
> > > Joey wrote:
> > >
> > > Question for anyone. Is there a difference in horsepower for speed
> > > and horsepower for torque? Or does horsepower just mean horsepower
> > > and it is the back of the engine that controls the torque.
> >
> >
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43655 From: Chris benner <offroadfun@t...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 5:46pm
Subject: Re: Anybody got a picture of a dirty Jeep
On his trip, we did manage to get the white jeep dirty..
http://www.thejeepfiles.com/oldsite/mudbogaf640.jpg
We have some nice mudding videos posted also..
http://www.thejeepfiles.com/videomat.htm
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To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 5:40 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Anybody got a picture of a dirty Jeep
> I haven't found a dirty Jeep in AZ yet, Pam and Armor All, what you
> can't make dirt stick without adding something, how about some EP2
> grease that should do the trick. All I want to see is a picture of
> one dirty Jeep in Arizona, from this club.
>
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43656 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 5:25pm
Subject: Squeaky Jeep!
I finally got around to getting subframe connectors on the ZJ. Thanks
Hunter Offroad!!! Now the subframe/unibody is so stiff that the
suspension actually has to do the work it's supposed to do instead of
flexing control arm brackets. Time to put the heim-jointed control arms
back on!
Linda
43657 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 5:33pm
Subject: Re: Water Wetter
I found a more open grill (93 ZJs have very poorly designed grills), a
30% antifreeze solution and a bottle of water wetter will bring the temp
down in my Jeep about 15-deg in the hottest part of the summer.
Hope that helps.
Linda
43658 From: jaylalib <jaylalib@h...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 6:07pm
Subject: Re: Anybody got a picture of a dirty Jeep
Hi there,
That would be me thank you!
Jason
99'TJ
www.greenmachine.alloffroad.com
--- In az_vjc@y..., "DesertJeep" <joey@d...> wrote:
> Whoops section on the web site.
> Joey K
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vpheiple [mailto:vpheiple@m...]
> > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 5:40 PM
> > To: az_vjc@y...
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Anybody got a picture of a dirty Jeep
> >
> >
> > I haven't found a dirty Jeep in AZ yet, Pam and Armor All, what
you
> > can't make dirt stick without adding something, how about some
EP2
> > grease that should do the trick. All I want to see is a picture
of
> > one dirty Jeep in Arizona, from this club.
> >
> >
> >
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43659 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 1:07pm
Subject: Re: Katchina Rescue?
Actually, to the best of my knowledge, they provide medical services for many
different and fucntions activites. They are a private group of volunteers.
John K
43635 From: Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 3:17pm
Subject: RE: My Jeep is finally mine.
Actually, now that you are married it's only 50% yours.
Hehe
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe West [mailto:joew@a...]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:19 PM
To: JNB4PLS@a...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] My Jeep is finally mine.
What a great way to look at things! I can pretend that I didn't pay it off
and then just buy upgrades with the payment!
Great Idea John!
<grin>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JNB4PLS@a... [mailto:JNB4PLS@a...]
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:05 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; joew@a...
> Subject: [az_vjc] My Jeep is finally mine.
>
>
> Look at all that extra money you can now throw at the Jeep
> Joe. Whooo Hooo,
> Congratulations.
>
> John Butler
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43636 From: Karl Bond <karl.bond@a...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 3:21pm
Subject: RE: Katchina Rescue?
They provide medical services for mountain bike races.
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From: flyboy0417@aol.com [mailto:flyboy0417@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 3:00 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Katchina Rescue?
Does anybody know anything about an organization called Katchina Rescue??
Zeus
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43637 From: <tandljacobson@a...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 10:26am
Subject: RE: New Holley off road carb
I don't have that specific new carb, but coincidentally that ad showed up about the same time I bought a Holley 390 from Randy Siade who had it set up nearly identical to the new carb in the ad. I've run with it the last 2 weekends and it has yet to even sputter. Randy can probably attest to it's ability better than I, as I bet he's had it on more difficult terrain than I've wheeled it...yet!
Message: 7
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 04:07:56 -0000
From: "steverino1112000"
Subject: New Holley off road carb
I saw in the March Petersons off road magazine a new carb by Holley
for off road use. It features one piece vent tubes and a modified
metering block to eliminte spillover at severe angles. Looked pretty
interesting and wondered if anyone has tried it yet. Also where is
the best place to buy Holley locally or internet(price).
43638 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 10:43am
Subject: Re: Re: Summer
ok...you caught on to me :) I was hoping that you wouldnt notice but now that the cat is out of the bag...could I have your old lift...I really need to do something here.
Sharky
( stock 97 TJ with foam thingies)
43639 From: Rick <ricknhall@c...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 3:45pm
Subject: Funny I got Shorter
After the long ordeal of buying my Jeep, Darner made me stand for a picture before I could leave. At the time I thought it was really stupid but I do have a shot of my rig before mods which was kind of nice. Recently I completed most of what I wanted to do to the Jeep so I thought I would recreate the same shot that Darner took. To my surprise I look shorter rather than the Jeep looking taller. BTW - My Jeep was dubbed the Barbie Jeep with the white top so if you think Smurf is bad think again.
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43640 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 10:45am
Subject: Re: Summer
Thats the "one" thing I havent tried yet...thanks for the idea :) LOL
Sharky (stock 97 TJ with foam thingies, soon to be tested upside down in the water)
43641 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 10:50am
Subject: Re: Re: My Jeep is finally mine.
cool...how much longer until the decals are paid off? :)
Sharky
43642 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 4:20pm
Subject: Re: Waxing Jeeps
Pam works too...
----- Original Message -----
From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
To: "vpheiple" <vpheiple@m...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:49 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Waxing Jeeps
> You want dirt to stick to your Jeep... use Armor All.
>
> Joey K
> 93YJ
> www.desertjeep.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vpheiple [mailto:vpheiple@m...]
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:38 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Waxing Jeeps
>
>
> I have seen pictures on this sight of alot of Jeeps. I see exactly
> none with any dirt on them. I don't think in Arizona the dirt sticks
> to your Jeeps, or someone is stretching the truth about washing and
> waxing. After ten years of setting under a cover my faded CJ5 needed
> at least one wax job, and I look forward to seeing if I can get any
> Arizona dirt to stick to it, I didn't have any problem with Northwest
> mud sticking to my other rigs so from what I have seen from the
> pictures I may have my work cut out for me.
>
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43643 From: vpheiple <vpheiple@m...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 4:40pm
Subject: Anybody got a picture of a dirty Jeep
I haven't found a dirty Jeep in AZ yet, Pam and Armor All, what you
can't make dirt stick without adding something, how about some EP2
grease that should do the trick. All I want to see is a picture of
one dirty Jeep in Arizona, from this club.
43644 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 4:45pm
Subject: [TR] Unspecified - Saturday, February 23, 2002
Hello All,
Jannelle Radoccia is leading an Unspecified trail run on Saturday, February 23, 2002.
When: Saturday, would like to meet at 8:00a
Where: TBD Please call to confirm you are going and we will arrange a meeting place.
Rating: None
Length: All Day
CB Channel: 4
Desoto Mine - It is North of Crown King, it should be very scenic, trail rating is equal to the Lake Pleasant to Crown King trail, but shows some interesting areas on the map. We have not run this before, we will be doing it by map and GPS unless someone has run it and wants to lead the way.
If you are interested please call us at 623-975-6072 or 623-340-0885 and we will iron out the details.
Chris and Jannelle
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
43645 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 4:55pm
Subject: RE: Anybody got a picture of a dirty Jeep
Whoops section on the web site.
Joey K
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vpheiple [mailto:vpheiple@m...]
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 5:40 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Anybody got a picture of a dirty Jeep
>
>
> I haven't found a dirty Jeep in AZ yet, Pam and Armor All, what you
> can't make dirt stick without adding something, how about some EP2
> grease that should do the trick. All I want to see is a picture of
> one dirty Jeep in Arizona, from this club.
>
>
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43646 From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 4:56pm
Subject: Re: Waxing Jeeps
She gota sista??
Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "DougB" <azjeep@c...> wrote:
> Pam works too...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
> To: "vpheiple" <vpheiple@m...>; <az_vjc@y...>
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:49 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Waxing Jeeps
>
>
> > You want dirt to stick to your Jeep... use Armor All.
> >
> > Joey K
> > 93YJ
> > www.desertjeep.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vpheiple [mailto:vpheiple@m...]
> > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:38 PM
> > To: az_vjc@y...
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Waxing Jeeps
> >
> >
> > I have seen pictures on this sight of alot of Jeeps. I see exactly
> > none with any dirt on them. I don't think in Arizona the dirt
sticks
> > to your Jeeps, or someone is stretching the truth about washing
and
> > waxing. After ten years of setting under a cover my faded CJ5
needed
> > at least one wax job, and I look forward to seeing if I can get
any
> > Arizona dirt to stick to it, I didn't have any problem with
Northwest
> > mud sticking to my other rigs so from what I have seen from the
> > pictures I may have my work cut out for me.
> >
> >
> >
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43647 From: Chris benner <offroadfun@t...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 5:08pm
Subject: Re: Anybody got a picture of a dirty Jeep
I loved this mud bog I hit.
although I always seem to find the stinky mud puddles that attract flies.
btw, my jeep is green not brown.
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From: "vpheiple" <vpheiple@msn.com>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 5:40 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Anybody got a picture of a dirty Jeep
> I haven't found a dirty Jeep in AZ yet, Pam and Armor All, what you
> can't make dirt stick without adding something, how about some EP2
> grease that should do the trick. All I want to see is a picture of
> one dirty Jeep in Arizona, from this club.
>
>
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43648 From: steverino1112000 <steverino1112000@y...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 5:13pm
Subject: Re: LAST CALL: Axle Alley Saturday 2.23
I really want to go but I promised the kids we could play on Martinez
tommorow. Maybe another time.
Nick Smith
--- In az_vjc@y..., "dionbozman" <amstaff@e...> wrote:
> Last call. We've got room for one more rig for Axle Alley on
Saturday
> morning. Blake Van de Loo, Tom Le and myself are running it for
sure
> and one more rig would be fine.
>
> You'll need: 35s, gears, lockers, winch and a desire to get it
awwnnn!
> LOL. If you wanna go, call or e-mail me for specifics:
> amstaff@e... or 480.460.0399
> Dion
43649 From: Casper <casper@c...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 5:16pm
Subject: XJ Questions?
Hello Gang,
I have had nearly everything done on the XJ that I can think of. I still have a rumbling noise in the front end. I had the steering overhauled by FlexyXJ, and it is GREAT! I checked out all of the u-joints and they are great. I did take off the front drive shaft to see if the noise disappeared, and no it was still there. Has anyone ever had anything like this come up in there jeep history? And has anyone had any experience with front wheel bearings? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Casper
43650 From: Clint Ramsey <cwramsey@t...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 4:59pm
Subject: RE: New to this
Papa smurf goes Goth
-----Original Message-----
From:
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[mailto:sentto-1011514-36445-1014419086-cwramsey=theriver.com@r...
oups.yahoo.com] On Behalf Of Scott Kruize
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 4:05 PM
To: Chris Krieg; Wade Ungaro; DougB; arizonajeep@c...
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] New to this
Papa Smurf discovers black hair dye? I missed that episode.
Hehe
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 3:01 PM
To: Wade Ungaro; DougB; arizonajeep@c...
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] New to this
They all have color envy. Hopefully sometime this year our Jeeps will
look
more similar. I'm ditching the ripped white top and getting a black top.
Chris K
> From: Wade Ungaro <swaders7@y...>
> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 10:59:53 -0800 (PST)
> To: DougB <azjeep@c...>, arizonajeep@c..., Chris Krieg
<rv6a@m...>
> Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] New to this
>
> Uou guys all crack me up! Chris I checked out your
> Jeep and it's identical to mine...finally I've found
> another. There are none like ours in Chicago.
> Actually they're not identical because mine isn't as
> modified as yours and I have a black top. But at
> least I've found one the same "Lapis" blue as mine.
> Thanks for the funny input guys!
>
> ~Wade
>
>
> --- DougB <azjeep@c...> wrote:
>> Yup...as Papa Smurf says...Lapis....yea...that's
>> it...Lapis
>>
>> :o)
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chris Krieg" <rv6a@m...>
>> To: <arizonajeep@c...>
>> Cc: "'swaders7'" <swaders7@y...>;
>> <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] New to this
>>
>>
>>> Ummm.... No, that's not the name of my TJ.
>>> The official color is Lapis blue. That is also the
>> color of my TJ.
>>>
>>> If you want to see mine, got to
>> http://www.arizonatj.com
>>>
>>> Welcome to AZ. Hope to see you on the trails some
>> time.
>>>
>>> Chris K
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 21, 2002, at 05:43 PM, Joe
>> W wrote:
>>>
>>>> I believe it is called "Smurf" blue.
>>>> <grin>
>>>>
>>>> Joe West
>>>>
>>>> PS Chris Krieg's Jeep is Smurf blue and its
>> nickname is mama-smurf.
>>>> Maybe
>>>> you could call yours papa-smurf and together you
>> could make
>>>> baby-smurfs...
>>>>
>>>> <laugh>
>>>>
>>>> Boy I just crack myself up sometimes...
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43651 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 5:09pm
Subject: Re: horsepower modifications?
I'll betch'ya that my boyfriend's Dodge Cummins (hauling a 5000# trailer
behind it) can whomp your 'lil Jeep in the 1/4-mile! ;-) Just kidding.
That would be embarassing. LOL!!!!
Linda
Kilr650@a... wrote:
>
> Horsepower and torque are two separate things. The way I understand it
> is horsepower is good for speed and torque is the twisting force an engine
> has. Torque is what gets you going and allows you to pull heavy loads.
> Ideally you'd what high torque and horsepower #'s. A well rounded engine
> would have the torque/horsepower rating about the same, for example 400 HP &
> 400 ft lbs torque.
>
> Another way I like to think about it is to look at diesel engine. They
> generally accelerate slowly but can pull large loads. Its not uncommon for a
> diesel engine to have a rating of something like 250 hp & 550 ft lbs torque.
>
> I'd say most Jeepers would want smooth torque which is what the I-6
> has. I hope this helps. If anyone thinks I need correcting please speak up.
>
> Eddie
> '98 TJ SE
>
> Joey wrote:
>
> Question for anyone. Is there a difference in horsepower for speed and
> horsepower for torque? Or does horsepower just mean horsepower and it is the
> back of the engine that controls the torque.
>
> Joey K
> 93YJ
> www.desertjeep.com
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43652 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 5:13pm
Subject: Re: horsepower modifications?
Or a Cummins 4BT. 330 ft-lbs of torque at 1500 rpm. And good fuel
mileage to boot!
Linda
> Ross Skinner wrote:
>
> You best power upgrade is GEARS!
>
> Unless you want to dump a V8 in, a well thought out diff, trany and
> transfer case gearing is the best bet. and cheaper in the long run.
> Ross
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred [mailto:fredtj@h...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:56 AM
> To: Scott Kruize
> Cc: AZ_VJC
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] horsepower modifications?
>
> JP, I believe it was, did that test. If you look (and read)
> closely, you'll see that they really got nothing !!!!! It
> wasn't 2 ~ 4%, but maybe 2 ~ 4 hp, but that's all well
> within the error margin of the dyno.
> The strokers do seem to produce some useful gains, and I
> think one of the superchargers does/did (the Rimmer one
> maybe). The other superchargers certainly produce more HP
> and torque, but it's all about what I would consider
> "useable" range, like above 3000 RPM.. Even the test in the
> magazine (JP ?) they didn't start looking at the results
> until above 2000 RPM, and most of the "gain" was seen way
> above that. When I'm wheeling, I'm rearly above 2000 rpm,
> maybe a little in the 2000 ~ 2500 range. BTW, the magazine
> qualified the results, or should I say, lack of results (I'm
> sure to try and please the advetisers), by saying "well, the
> vehicle *felt* better or *sounded* better. Hell that and
> $0.55 will buy me a soda.
>
> Cheers,
> Fred
>
> Scott Kruize wrote:
>
> > One of the mags did a test and slapped on a bunch of mods
> > such as exhaust,
> > computer chip, intake, etc and only got a 2-4% improvement
> > and sacrificed
> > lowe end torque to gain the higher end horsepower. What we
> > all want in a
> > Jeep is is more low end torque, not high end horsepower.
> > Now the Hesco stroker kit on the other hand is a true mod
> > that gets some low
> > end power by increasing your displacement from 4.0 to 4.7L
> > which offers V8
> > torque and horsepower from the straight 6.
> > http://www.bc4x4.com/tech/bryce/stroker/stroker.cfm
> > http://www.hescosc.com/cgi-bin/ez-catalog/cat_display.cgi?3X364946#k
> > http://www.off-road.com/jee
> > p/cherokee/98/04_apr/cored2.html
> > Scott K
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Shadow Wolf [mailto:shadowwolf@l...]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 8:14 AM
> > To: flyboy0417@a...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; Scott
> > Kruize
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] horsepower modifications?
> > What about those turbo city upgrades. They don't give a
> > whole lot but every
> > little bit does from what I hear. Also they make a
> > stroker kit for the
> > 4.0L I-6 that is suppose to bump it up to 260hp and 350
> > lbs torque. But
> > other than that I don't know of any other than what Scott
> > said.
> > David
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Scott Kruize" <scottkruize@eart
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> > To: <flyboy0417@a...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:41 PM
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] horsepower modifications?
> >
> > > Been around Jeeps for years. I've owned 2 of them. Short
> > > of a V8 swap or
> > > installing a supercharger save your money.
> > > One of the Jeep mags did some tests lately that agree
> > > with what I've been
> > > saying for years.
> > > Scott K
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: flyboy0417@a... [mailto:flyboy0417@a...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 3:45 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] horsepower modifications?
> > > What are some horsepower mods i that are under 300 bucks
> > > and install
> > >
> > easily
> >
> > > besides intake and exhaust??? I have a 4.0L six cyl.
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43653 From: Chris benner <offroadfun@t...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 5:41pm
Subject: Re: Anybody got a picture of a dirty Jeep
Here's a great picture prooving that mud won't stick to your jeep. we tried
really hard to get this white jeep dirty.
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From: "vpheiple" <vpheiple@msn.com>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 5:40 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Anybody got a picture of a dirty Jeep
> I haven't found a dirty Jeep in AZ yet, Pam and Armor All, what you
> can't make dirt stick without adding something, how about some EP2
> grease that should do the trick. All I want to see is a picture of
> one dirty Jeep in Arizona, from this club.
>
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43654 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 5:16pm
Subject: Re: Re: horsepower modifications?
The 4.0l I6 has 305 N.m @ 4000 rpm.
Scott Kruize wrote:
>
> I'm going to assume you are being sarcastic.
>
> Scott K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wishmaaker [mailto:wishmaaker@y...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 8:34 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: horsepower modifications?
>
> Since I purchased my jeep I have heard rumors that a 4 cyc has more
> torque then the I-6. Is there any truth to that?
>
> TIA
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "DesertJeep" <joey@d...> wrote:
> > Thanks for the lesson teach! I understand a bit better now. Thanks.
> >
> > Joey K
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: az_jeeper_mike [mailto:azvjc@a...]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 8:22 AM
> > To: az_vjc@y...
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: horsepower modifications?
> >
> >
> > Generally speaking, Torque is the ability to do work. Horsepower is
> > how fast that work gets done. Part of the equation for horsepower
> is
> > time (i.e. Revolutions Per MINUTE) whereas Torque is measured
> without
> > reference to time.
> >
> > Some equations for you:
> > Horse Power = (RPM x Torque)/5252
> > Torque = (5252 x Horse Power)/RPM
> > RPM = (5252 x Horse Power)/Torque
> >
> > Think of it this way:
> >
> > You have two engines, one has 5hp and one has 500hp, both produce
> 500
> > ft/lbs of torque.
> >
> > You connect this to an axle that will break at 500ftlbs. With the
> > first engine (5hp) it slowly twists the axle until it snaps in half.
> > With the second engine, it just instantly snaps the axle in half.
> >
> > Lets explore the reason why, using the third equation:
> > First Engine:
> > RPM = (5252 x HP)/T
> > RPM = (5252 x 5)/500
> > RPM = 52.52
> >
> > Second Engine:
> > RPM = (5252 x 500)/500
> > RPM = 5252
> >
> > As you can see, while both engines are creating the same amount of
> > torque, the second is doing it at a much faster rate.
> >
> > The problem with most horsepower add ons, is that it they raise the
> > RPM at which the power is made. This is why High Horsepower/High
> RPM
> > application will snap axles in a hurry, while a Lower Horsepower/Low
> > RPM, but same torque will not.
> >
> > You want to see stuff break in a hurry, hook up one of those Pro-
> > Stock Drag Racing engines to a Dana 44. Let say it makes
> > 1000hp/1000ftlbs torque @5252 RPM (5252 is the RPM at which
> > HP=Torque), I don't know what these guys run for gears, but I'm
> > guessing when they take off from the line it is the neighborhood of
> > 10:1. That means that 10,000 ftlbs of torque are going to the rear
> > axles @ about 525 RPM (Engine RPM/Gear Ratio).
> >
> > Now take that same D44 and put it behind one of our built Jeeps. To
> > keep things simple lets say a 5:1 first gear (standard), 4:1
> > Transfercase and 4:1 and lets say our Jeep engine makes 250ft/lbs at
> > 2000 RPM. 5 x 4 x 4 = 80 and 80 x 250 = 20,000 LOOK AT THAT! Twice
> > the amount of torque at the axle as our Pro-Stock car example. But,
> > the difference is the axles are only spinning at 25 RPM.
> >
> > So why aren't we going through axles faster? Two reasons. 1. Parts
> > such as axles tend to resist slow steady torque much better than
> > instantaneous fast torque (i.e. launching that Pro-Stock car out of
> > the hole) AND #2. Engines don't produce the maximum HP/Torque at a
> > given RPM always. For instance when you accelerate, more energy
> > (torque) is needed to get your Jeep up to speed. Once at that
> speed,
> > however, not as much power is needed. For instance if your engine
> can
> > produce 100hp at 500rpm (Idle), does that mean that it is producing
> > 100hp when you're sitting at a light with the clutch in? No, the
> > engine is only producing enough power to keep itself running (along
> > with turning all of those accessories like power steering,
> altinator,
> > etc..) Now off road is a different story, say you're idling along at
> > 500rpm over some rocks. You can tell when the engine is about to
> die,
> > so you give it some more gas -- at that point (just before you give
> > it gas) the engine is producing it's maximum of 100hp.
> >
> > Does this help, or am I just making things worse???
> >
> > - Mike
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., Kilr650@a... wrote:
> > > Joey wrote:
> > >
> > > Question for anyone. Is there a difference in horsepower for speed
> > > and horsepower for torque? Or does horsepower just mean horsepower
> > > and it is the back of the engine that controls the torque.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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43655 From: Chris benner <offroadfun@t...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 5:46pm
Subject: Re: Anybody got a picture of a dirty Jeep
On his trip, we did manage to get the white jeep dirty..
http://www.thejeepfiles.com/oldsite/mudbogaf640.jpg
We have some nice mudding videos posted also..
http://www.thejeepfiles.com/videomat.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: "vpheiple" <vpheiple@m...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 5:40 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Anybody got a picture of a dirty Jeep
> I haven't found a dirty Jeep in AZ yet, Pam and Armor All, what you
> can't make dirt stick without adding something, how about some EP2
> grease that should do the trick. All I want to see is a picture of
> one dirty Jeep in Arizona, from this club.
>
>
>
>
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43656 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 5:25pm
Subject: Squeaky Jeep!
I finally got around to getting subframe connectors on the ZJ. Thanks
Hunter Offroad!!! Now the subframe/unibody is so stiff that the
suspension actually has to do the work it's supposed to do instead of
flexing control arm brackets. Time to put the heim-jointed control arms
back on!
Linda
43657 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 5:33pm
Subject: Re: Water Wetter
I found a more open grill (93 ZJs have very poorly designed grills), a
30% antifreeze solution and a bottle of water wetter will bring the temp
down in my Jeep about 15-deg in the hottest part of the summer.
Hope that helps.
Linda
43658 From: jaylalib <jaylalib@h...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 6:07pm
Subject: Re: Anybody got a picture of a dirty Jeep
Hi there,
That would be me thank you!
Jason
99'TJ
www.greenmachine.alloffroad.com
--- In az_vjc@y..., "DesertJeep" <joey@d...> wrote:
> Whoops section on the web site.
> Joey K
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vpheiple [mailto:vpheiple@m...]
> > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 5:40 PM
> > To: az_vjc@y...
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Anybody got a picture of a dirty Jeep
> >
> >
> > I haven't found a dirty Jeep in AZ yet, Pam and Armor All, what
you
> > can't make dirt stick without adding something, how about some
EP2
> > grease that should do the trick. All I want to see is a picture
of
> > one dirty Jeep in Arizona, from this club.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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43659 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 1:07pm
Subject: Re: Katchina Rescue?
Actually, to the best of my knowledge, they provide medical services for many
different and fucntions activites. They are a private group of volunteers.
John K