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43410 From: T.J. Nosmo-King <ice626@h...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 8:59am
Subject: Re: Quadratrac rebuild instructions
Hi Randy....I've got the 1975 Jeep Technical Service Manual and it has 18 pages of info for quadra-tracs....has complete rebuild instructions, w/pictures.....If you want to borrow it or copy it (I don't have access to a copier), I live in Mesa.....just let me know.....I can be reached at the numbers below.....
TJ Gill
75 CJ5
327/TH350
Ocotillo West Landscaping
480.325.5401
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43411 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 8:52am
Subject: RE: horsepower modifications?
You best power upgrade is GEARS!
Unless you want to dump a V8 in, a well thought out diff, trany and transfer case gearing is the best bet. and cheaper in the long run.
Ross
-----Original Message-----
From: Fred [mailto:fredtj@home.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:56 AM
To: Scott Kruize
Cc: AZ_VJC
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] horsepower modifications?
JP, I believe it was, did that test. If you look (and read) closely, you'll see that they really got nothing !!!!! It wasn't 2 ~ 4%, but maybe 2 ~ 4 hp, but that's all well within the error margin of the dyno.
The strokers do seem to produce some useful gains, and I think one of the superchargers does/did (the Rimmer one maybe). The other superchargers certainly produce more HP and torque, but it's all about what I would consider "useable" range, like above 3000 RPM.. Even the test in the magazine (JP ?) they didn't start looking at the results until above 2000 RPM, and most of the "gain" was seen way above that. When I'm wheeling, I'm rearly above 2000 rpm, maybe a little in the 2000 ~ 2500 range. BTW, the magazine qualified the results, or should I say, lack of results (I'm sure to try and please the advetisers), by saying "well, the vehicle *felt* better or *sounded* better. Hell that and $0.55 will buy me a soda.
Cheers,
Fred
Scott Kruize wrote:
One of the mags did a test and slapped on a bunch of mods such as exhaust,computer chip, intake, etc and only got a 2-4% improvement and sacrificedlowe end torque to gain the higher end horsepower. What we all want in aJeep is is more low end torque, not high end horsepower.Now the Hesco stroker kit on the other hand is a true mod that gets some lowend power by increasing your displacement from 4.0 to 4.7L which offers V8torque and horsepower from the straight 6.http://www.bc4x4.com/tech/bryce/stroker/stroker.cfmhttp://www.hescosc.com/cgi-bin/ez-catalog/cat_display.cgi?3X364946#khttp://www.off-road.com/jee
p/cherokee/98/04_apr/cored2.htmlScott K-----Original Message-----From: Shadow Wolf [mailto:shadowwolf@lvcm.com]Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 8:14 AMTo: flyboy0417@aol.com; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; Scott KruizeSubject: Re: [az_vjc] horsepower modifications?What about those turbo city upgrades. They don't give a whole lot but everylittle bit does from what I hear. Also they make a stroker kit for the4.0L I-6 that is suppose to bump it up to 260hp and 350 lbs torque. Butother than that I don't know of any other than what Scott said.David----- Original Message -----From: "Scott Kruize" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:41 PMSubject: RE: [az_vjc] horsepower modifications?
Been around Jeeps for years. I've owned 2 of them. Short of a V8 swap orinstalling a supercharger save your money.One of the Jeep mags did some tests lately that agree with what I've beensaying for years.Scott K-----Original Message-----From: flyboy0417@aol.com [mailto:flyboy0417@aol.com]Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 3:45 PMTo: az_vjc@yahoogroups.comSubject: [az_vjc] horsepower modifications?What are some horsepower mods i that are under 300 bucks and install
easily
besides intake and exhaust??? I have a 4.0L six cyl.Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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43412 From: kmichael02 <kmichael02@y...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 9:05am
Subject: BARTlet Lake ranger station
HOw do i get to it from tempe?
TIA
mike
43413 From: Fred <fredtj@h...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 9:13am
Subject: Re: Crown King
45 psi. Holy smokes. I don't know what you have for tires, but I don't
know of any, off the top of my head, that you should run, on the road,
at 45 psi !!
Cheers,
Fred
Jayke Thorpe wrote:
>Well I did my first wheeling trip yesterday. We went
>up to Crown King....AND WHAT A BLAST! Thank god there
>was another member up there. I have a '98 ZJ, 3.5
>lift, front air lockers, detroit rear, quick
>disconnects. I must have gotten out about 8 or 9
>times and told him there is absolutely NO WAY I can
>make it up there. The ledge was tricky. One was a hill
>with HUGE holles and bumps just past Fort Misery. I
>stared at it for a good 5 minutes. When I finally
>went up, I had such a rush I DID IT AGAIN! I had no
>idea what a difference lockers, lift,
>disconnects....oh yeah, and tire pressure makes. He
>was quick to point out I should let my tires down from
>45psi to 17psi. I am still on a HIGH! LETS GO!!!
>
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43414 From: Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 9:17am
Subject: Re: Crown King
--- Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...> wrote:
> I have Pirelli Scorpions 31x10.50. On the side wall
> it says max load at 50psi. So i figured 45psi.
> would
> be good. Should I run them lower?
> --- Fred <fredtj@h...> wrote:
> > 45 psi. Holy smokes. I don't know what you have
> for
> > tires, but I don't
> > know of any, off the top of my head, that you
> should
> > run, on the road,
> > at 45 psi !!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Fred
> >
> >
> > Jayke Thorpe wrote:
> >
> > >Well I did my first wheeling trip yesterday. We
> > went
> > >up to Crown King....AND WHAT A BLAST! Thank god
> > there
> > >was another member up there. I have a '98 ZJ,
> 3.5
> > >lift, front air lockers, detroit rear, quick
> > >disconnects. I must have gotten out about 8 or 9
> > >times and told him there is absolutely NO WAY I
> can
> > >make it up there. The ledge was tricky. One was a
> > hill
> > >with HUGE holles and bumps just past Fort Misery.
>
> > I
> > >stared at it for a good 5 minutes. When I
> finally
> > >went up, I had such a rush I DID IT AGAIN! I had
> > no
> > >idea what a difference lockers, lift,
> > >disconnects....oh yeah, and tire pressure makes.
> > He
> > >was quick to point out I should let my tires down
> > from
> > >45psi to 17psi. I am still on a HIGH! LETS
> GO!!!
> > >
> >
> >__________________________________________________
> > >Do You Yahoo!?
> > >Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic
> Games
> > >http://sports.yahoo.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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43415 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 9:18am
Subject: Re: Fr- 42 and Telegraph line road
I don't know if that is its "true name". Technically, it is marked as
"FR42" so "FR42" is probably its "true name" these days. But that other
name is certainly synonymous. I've also heard it called "the old telegraph
trail" or just "telegraph trail".
The trail - or at least part of it - was evidently the route of an old
telegraph line. Along parts of the trail there are stumps of cut-down
telegraph poles still sticking up out of the ground.
-Roger
> David Withers wrote:
>
> I'm looking at the Wells Trail book. The book is calling the trail we
> call fr-42, Telegraph line road. Is this it's true name?
> pg. 168
>
> David R. W. Withers
> Desk: 480.551.4667
> Mobile: 480.215.6992
43416 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 9:33am
Subject: Bartlett Lake OVH closures?
I ran FR42 last Sunday and I noticed a couple new signs stating that
OHV use is prohibited within the Bartlett Lake recreation area except
on FR42. One of these signs is at the pay station and the other is
along the sideroad towards the start of FR42.
Does anyone know if this closes any other trails out there?
-Roger
43417 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 9:46am
Subject: [FS] Wanted: Control Arms for XJ
Price: Neg.
Contact: Mike @ 623-930-6649
A friend of mine is looking for:
Used after-factory front control arms 16 1/2" to 16 7/8"
for an XJ, TJ, or ZJ. Please call Mike at 623-930-6649.
So, if anyone has these for sale, please contact Mike.
TIA
Bob
74 CJ-5
Robert Peck
43418 From: David Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 10:04am
Subject: Anyone have a relatively current Kelly blue book
the vehicle is too old to find the price on-line
David R. W. Withers
Desk: 480.551.4667
Mobile: 480.215.6992
43419 From: David R. W. Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 10:58am
Subject: RE: Anyone have a relatively current Kelly blue book
If you would have read the entire e-mail, you know that won't work.
-----Original Message-----
From: ERIC C MARBLE [mailto:EMarble3@prodigy.net]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:14 AM
To: David Withers
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Anyone have a relatively current Kelly blue book
www.kbb.com
----- Original Message -----
From: David Withers
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:04 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Anyone have a relatively current Kelly blue book
the vehicle is too old to find the price on-line
David R. W. Withers
Desk: 480.551.4667
Mobile: 480.215.6992
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43420 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 11:31am
Subject: Re: Crown King
Kinda like running with solid rubber tires. Generally, on road should be
some where around 28 to 32 psi. Off road pressure depends a lot on the tire.
I used to run BFG's (which are pretty flexy) at around 12 - 15psi, depending
on the trail. I suspect your Pirelli's are no stiffer than the BFG's.
45psi is way too high for any situation.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jayke Thorpe" <jeepboy_3@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Crown King
>
> --- Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...> wrote:
> > I have Pirelli Scorpions 31x10.50. On the side wall
> > it says max load at 50psi. So i figured 45psi.
> > would
> > be good. Should I run them lower?
> > --- Fred <fredtj@h...> wrote:
> > > 45 psi. Holy smokes. I don't know what you have
> > for
> > > tires, but I don't
> > > know of any, off the top of my head, that you
> > should
> > > run, on the road,
> > > at 45 psi !!
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Fred
> > >
> > >
> > > Jayke Thorpe wrote:
> > >
> > > >Well I did my first wheeling trip yesterday. We
> > > went
> > > >up to Crown King....AND WHAT A BLAST! Thank god
> > > there
> > > >was another member up there. I have a '98 ZJ,
> > 3.5
> > > >lift, front air lockers, detroit rear, quick
> > > >disconnects. I must have gotten out about 8 or 9
> > > >times and told him there is absolutely NO WAY I
> > can
> > > >make it up there. The ledge was tricky. One was a
> > > hill
> > > >with HUGE holles and bumps just past Fort Misery.
> >
> > > I
> > > >stared at it for a good 5 minutes. When I
> > finally
> > > >went up, I had such a rush I DID IT AGAIN! I had
> > > no
> > > >idea what a difference lockers, lift,
> > > >disconnects....oh yeah, and tire pressure makes.
> > > He
> > > >was quick to point out I should let my tires down
> > > from
> > > >45psi to 17psi. I am still on a HIGH! LETS
> > GO!!!
> > > >
> > >
> > >__________________________________________________
> > > >Do You Yahoo!?
> > > >Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic
> > Games
> > > >http://sports.yahoo.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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> > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games
> > http://sports.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
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43421 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 11:31am
Subject: Re: Anyone have a relatively current Kelly blue book
www.kbb.com
----- Original Message -----
From: David Withers
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:04 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Anyone have a relatively current Kelly blue book
the vehicle is too old to find the price on-line
David R. W. Withers
Desk: 480.551.4667
Mobile: 480.215.6992
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43422 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 11:39am
Subject: Re: Anyone have a relatively current Kelly blue book
On line kbb goes back as far as 1982 (at least for trucks). Anything older and a bb value is relatvely useless, which is why they likely don't go back any further. To go further back, you'll need a pretty old bb, which won't be relevant in today's market anyway, but I supose it may give you something to start with.
You may also wish to visit www.autotrader.com and search for the year and type your looking for to get a sense of the market.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: David Withers
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:04 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Anyone have a relatively current Kelly blue book
the vehicle is too old to find the price on-line
David R. W. Withers
Desk: 480.551.4667
Mobile: 480.215.6992
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43423 From: Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 11:47am
Subject: Re: Crown King
Could the high pressure I am running cause the "Death
Wobble"?
--- DougB <azjeep@c...> wrote:
> Kinda like running with solid rubber tires.
> Generally, on road should be
> some where around 28 to 32 psi. Off road pressure
> depends a lot on the tire.
> I used to run BFG's (which are pretty flexy) at
> around 12 - 15psi, depending
> on the trail. I suspect your Pirelli's are no
> stiffer than the BFG's.
>
> 45psi is way too high for any situation.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jayke Thorpe" <jeepboy_3@y...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Crown King
>
>
> >
> > --- Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...> wrote:
> > > I have Pirelli Scorpions 31x10.50. On the side
> wall
> > > it says max load at 50psi. So i figured 45psi.
> > > would
> > > be good. Should I run them lower?
> > > --- Fred <fredtj@h...> wrote:
> > > > 45 psi. Holy smokes. I don't know what you
> have
> > > for
> > > > tires, but I don't
> > > > know of any, off the top of my head, that you
> > > should
> > > > run, on the road,
> > > > at 45 psi !!
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Fred
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jayke Thorpe wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Well I did my first wheeling trip yesterday.
> We
> > > > went
> > > > >up to Crown King....AND WHAT A BLAST! Thank
> god
> > > > there
> > > > >was another member up there. I have a '98
> ZJ,
> > > 3.5
> > > > >lift, front air lockers, detroit rear, quick
> > > > >disconnects. I must have gotten out about 8
> or 9
> > > > >times and told him there is absolutely NO WAY
> I
> > > can
> > > > >make it up there. The ledge was tricky. One
> was a
> > > > hill
> > > > >with HUGE holles and bumps just past Fort
> Misery.
> > >
> > > > I
> > > > >stared at it for a good 5 minutes. When I
> > > finally
> > > > >went up, I had such a rush I DID IT AGAIN! I
> had
> > > > no
> > > > >idea what a difference lockers, lift,
> > > > >disconnects....oh yeah, and tire pressure
> makes.
> > > > He
> > > > >was quick to point out I should let my tires
> down
> > > > from
> > > > >45psi to 17psi. I am still on a HIGH! LETS
> > > GO!!!
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >__________________________________________________
> > > > >Do You Yahoo!?
> > > > >Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic
> > > Games
> > > > >http://sports.yahoo.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> __________________________________________________
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> > > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic
> Games
> > > http://sports.yahoo.com
> > >
> >
> >
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43424 From: tjsr4r0cks <dkober@g...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 11:49am
Subject: Re: BARTlet Lake ranger station
101 north till it dumps you on Pima Rd. Pima Rd north to Cave Creek
Rd. Right on Cave Creek Rd to Bartlett Lake Rd. Right onto Bartlett
Lake Rd. The ranger station is on the left.
Dave
99 TJ
--- In az_vjc@y..., "kmichael02" <kmichael02@y...> wrote:
> HOw do i get to it from tempe?
>
> TIA
>
> mike
43425 From: msa12171 <msa12171@a...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 11:55am
Subject: Re: Where to buy a CB in East Valley
It might be a little far for you but Bronco One is great! The
service is unmatched and a good selection and prices. Try them.
They are on 32nd St. north of Greenway on the west side of the road.
Mike A.
43426 From: Robert McNeeley <robert.mcneeley@p...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 11:57am
Subject: RE: Crown King
The Death Wobble could be the tire. My dad has the same tires on his truck
and until they get hot the bounce all over the road. The first time I drove
his truck I thought he had a bad tire.
Fat Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Jayke Thorpe [mailto:jeepboy_3@y...]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 12:48 PM
To: DougB
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Crown King
Could the high pressure I am running cause the "Death
Wobble"?
--- DougB <azjeep@c...> wrote:
> Kinda like running with solid rubber tires.
> Generally, on road should be
> some where around 28 to 32 psi. Off road pressure
> depends a lot on the tire.
> I used to run BFG's (which are pretty flexy) at
> around 12 - 15psi, depending
> on the trail. I suspect your Pirelli's are no
> stiffer than the BFG's.
>
> 45psi is way too high for any situation.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jayke Thorpe" <jeepboy_3@y...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Crown King
>
>
> >
> > --- Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...> wrote:
> > > I have Pirelli Scorpions 31x10.50. On the side
> wall
> > > it says max load at 50psi. So i figured 45psi.
> > > would
> > > be good. Should I run them lower?
> > > --- Fred <fredtj@h...> wrote:
> > > > 45 psi. Holy smokes. I don't know what you
> have
> > > for
> > > > tires, but I don't
> > > > know of any, off the top of my head, that you
> > > should
> > > > run, on the road,
> > > > at 45 psi !!
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Fred
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jayke Thorpe wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Well I did my first wheeling trip yesterday.
> We
> > > > went
> > > > >up to Crown King....AND WHAT A BLAST! Thank
> god
> > > > there
> > > > >was another member up there. I have a '98
> ZJ,
> > > 3.5
> > > > >lift, front air lockers, detroit rear, quick
> > > > >disconnects. I must have gotten out about 8
> or 9
> > > > >times and told him there is absolutely NO WAY
> I
> > > can
> > > > >make it up there. The ledge was tricky. One
> was a
> > > > hill
> > > > >with HUGE holles and bumps just past Fort
> Misery.
> > >
> > > > I
> > > > >stared at it for a good 5 minutes. When I
> > > finally
> > > > >went up, I had such a rush I DID IT AGAIN! I
> had
> > > > no
> > > > >idea what a difference lockers, lift,
> > > > >disconnects....oh yeah, and tire pressure
> makes.
> > > > He
> > > > >was quick to point out I should let my tires
> down
> > > > from
> > > > >45psi to 17psi. I am still on a HIGH! LETS
> > > GO!!!
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >__________________________________________________
> > > > >Do You Yahoo!?
> > > > >Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic
> > > Games
> > > > >http://sports.yahoo.com
> > > > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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> Games
> > > http://sports.yahoo.com
> > >
> >
> >
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43427 From: tjsr4r0cks <dkober@g...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 11:56am
Subject: Re: Crown King
Here is a link with write ups on both off and on road tire pressure.
Dave
99 TJ
--- In az_vjc@y..., Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...> wrote:
> Could the high pressure I am running cause the "Death
> Wobble"?
> --- DougB <azjeep@c...> wrote:
> > Kinda like running with solid rubber tires.
> > Generally, on road should be
> > some where around 28 to 32 psi. Off road pressure
> > depends a lot on the tire.
> > I used to run BFG's (which are pretty flexy) at
> > around 12 - 15psi, depending
> > on the trail. I suspect your Pirelli's are no
> > stiffer than the BFG's.
> >
> > 45psi is way too high for any situation.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jayke Thorpe" <jeepboy_3@y...>
> > To: <az_vjc@y...>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:17 AM
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Crown King
> >
> >
> > >
> > > --- Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...> wrote:
> > > > I have Pirelli Scorpions 31x10.50. On the side
> > wall
> > > > it says max load at 50psi. So i figured 45psi.
> > > > would
> > > > be good. Should I run them lower?
> > > > --- Fred <fredtj@h...> wrote:
> > > > > 45 psi. Holy smokes. I don't know what you
> > have
> > > > for
> > > > > tires, but I don't
> > > > > know of any, off the top of my head, that you
> > > > should
> > > > > run, on the road,
> > > > > at 45 psi !!
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Fred
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jayke Thorpe wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Well I did my first wheeling trip yesterday.
> > We
> > > > > went
> > > > > >up to Crown King....AND WHAT A BLAST! Thank
> > god
> > > > > there
> > > > > >was another member up there. I have a '98
> > ZJ,
> > > > 3.5
> > > > > >lift, front air lockers, detroit rear, quick
> > > > > >disconnects. I must have gotten out about 8
> > or 9
> > > > > >times and told him there is absolutely NO WAY
> > I
> > > > can
> > > > > >make it up there. The ledge was tricky. One
> > was a
> > > > > hill
> > > > > >with HUGE holles and bumps just past Fort
> > Misery.
> > > >
> > > > > I
> > > > > >stared at it for a good 5 minutes. When I
> > > > finally
> > > > > >went up, I had such a rush I DID IT AGAIN! I
> > had
> > > > > no
> > > > > >idea what a difference lockers, lift,
> > > > > >disconnects....oh yeah, and tire pressure
> > makes.
> > > > > He
> > > > > >was quick to point out I should let my tires
> > down
> > > > > from
> > > > > >45psi to 17psi. I am still on a HIGH! LETS
> > > > GO!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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43428 From: tjsr4r0cks <dkober@g...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 0:07pm
Subject: Re: Crown King
Ooops
http://www.performanceunlimited.com/documents/index.html
Sorry
--- In az_vjc@y..., "tjsr4r0cks" <dkober@g...> wrote:
> Here is a link with write ups on both off and on road tire pressure.
>
> Dave
> 99 TJ
> --- In az_vjc@y..., Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...> wrote:
> > Could the high pressure I am running cause the "Death
> > Wobble"?
> > --- DougB <azjeep@c...> wrote:
> > > Kinda like running with solid rubber tires.
> > > Generally, on road should be
> > > some where around 28 to 32 psi. Off road pressure
> > > depends a lot on the tire.
> > > I used to run BFG's (which are pretty flexy) at
> > > around 12 - 15psi, depending
> > > on the trail. I suspect your Pirelli's are no
> > > stiffer than the BFG's.
> > >
> > > 45psi is way too high for any situation.
> > >
> > > Doug
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jayke Thorpe" <jeepboy_3@y...>
> > > To: <az_vjc@y...>
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:17 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Crown King
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...> wrote:
> > > > > I have Pirelli Scorpions 31x10.50. On the side
> > > wall
> > > > > it says max load at 50psi. So i figured 45psi.
> > > > > would
> > > > > be good. Should I run them lower?
> > > > > --- Fred <fredtj@h...> wrote:
> > > > > > 45 psi. Holy smokes. I don't know what you
> > > have
> > > > > for
> > > > > > tires, but I don't
> > > > > > know of any, off the top of my head, that you
> > > > > should
> > > > > > run, on the road,
> > > > > > at 45 psi !!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Fred
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jayke Thorpe wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Well I did my first wheeling trip yesterday.
> > > We
> > > > > > went
> > > > > > >up to Crown King....AND WHAT A BLAST! Thank
> > > god
> > > > > > there
> > > > > > >was another member up there. I have a '98
> > > ZJ,
> > > > > 3.5
> > > > > > >lift, front air lockers, detroit rear, quick
> > > > > > >disconnects. I must have gotten out about 8
> > > or 9
> > > > > > >times and told him there is absolutely NO WAY
> > > I
> > > > > can
> > > > > > >make it up there. The ledge was tricky. One
> > > was a
> > > > > > hill
> > > > > > >with HUGE holles and bumps just past Fort
> > > Misery.
> > > > >
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > >stared at it for a good 5 minutes. When I
> > > > > finally
> > > > > > >went up, I had such a rush I DID IT AGAIN! I
> > > had
> > > > > > no
> > > > > > >idea what a difference lockers, lift,
> > > > > > >disconnects....oh yeah, and tire pressure
> > > makes.
> > > > > > He
> > > > > > >was quick to point out I should let my tires
> > > down
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > >45psi to 17psi. I am still on a HIGH! LETS
> > > > > GO!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >__________________________________________________
> > > > > > >Do You Yahoo!?
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> > > > > Games
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43429 From: jeepthang87yj <jeep_thang@h...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 1:29pm
Subject: OT: Anyone notice the Tripple Palindromic Date Lastnight
last night we had a Tripple Palindromic Date or Palindromic Clock
moment if you do not know what that is I will explain.
Last night at 8:02 was the beginning of 60 seconds that only happens
every 1001 years.
The date 20/02
The time (Military) 20:02 hrs
the year is 2002
Palindromic: A word, phrase, verse, or sentence that reads the same
backward or forward
Just thought that I would pass it on.
Sincerely: JEEP THANG
Larry Carmen and Emily
43430 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 1:33pm
Subject: [FS] RIMS AND TIRES- 32X11.5
Price: $500
Contact: buckelew3@postmark.net
(4) 32x11.5x15 Remington Mud Brutes and a 30x9.5 spare on 15x8 Prime's. Mud Brutes are in good condition, only couple thousand miles on them, if that. Spare is practically brand new, it's a Dueler A/T. $500, so it's like paying $75 a tire and $25 rim. Will meet buyer halfway, can ship for a tad extra.
thanks..John
Email me for pics
or try this page....
http://forums.jeepsunlimited.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/015878.html
John buckelew
43431 From: stallonedev <stallonedev@y...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 1:59pm
Subject: RE Big Thks to John Butler, and 4 Wheelers
I just wanted to let everybody know how great of a guy John Butler
really is. He invited me to his house to help put in my RE
bushings. For those people who have done this procedure before, they
know its not very fun nor easy. However John new how much work it
was going to take to put them in and he offered to help. However
while trying to put them in we ran into some trouble with the 20 ton
press. However he still took 3 hours out of his busy schedule to
help me out even though we never got the bushings in. As for 4
Wheelers, they seem to know what they are doing all the time and only
charged me $50 to put all 6 bushings in 'thanks Dave'. Well I just
wanted to let people know what great guys these people are and for
everybody else in this club that helps out with each project of ours
at the AZVJC. Even if its over the internet or going to their house
and doing manual labor. I just wanted to say Thanks Again
Anthony Stallone
43432 From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 2:11pm
Subject: Re: OT: Anyone notice the Tripple Palindromic Date Lastnight
And it won't ever happen again.
Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "jeepthang87yj" <jeep_thang@h...> wrote:
> last night we had a Tripple Palindromic Date or Palindromic Clock
> moment if you do not know what that is I will explain.
>
> Last night at 8:02 was the beginning of 60 seconds that only
happens
> every 1001 years.
>
> The date 20/02
> The time (Military) 20:02 hrs
> the year is 2002
>
> Palindromic: A word, phrase, verse, or sentence that reads the same
> backward or forward
>
>
> Just thought that I would pass it on.
>
> Sincerely: JEEP THANG
>
> Larry Carmen and Emily
43433 From: Mike Hoyt <mike@v...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 2:10pm
Subject: Re: Where to buy a CB in East Valley
Bob,
You might also try CB Exchange in Mesa (6336 I. Main St - 480.844.7200)
-Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randall A.Mutter" <ramaz@c...>
To: "'Bob Jacques'" <bjacques@m...>;
<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:52 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Where to buy a CB in East Valley
> Hi Bob
>
> I got mine at Radio Shack.com store at Country Club + Southern (the old
> Home Depot location). They have a nice selection at good prices. There
> was even a sales person there that was very helpful.
>
> Good luck
>
> Randy
>
> Randall A. Mutter 95XJ, 76 CJ-7
> ramaz@c...
>
> Thank goodness there are no 12 step programs for Jeeping...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Jacques [mailto:bjacques@m...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:45 AM
> To: 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: [az_vjc] Where to buy a CB in East Valley
>
>
> Hello, Can anyone advise me where to get a basic CB and Ant for my TJ in
> the
> East Valley?? Emphasis on BASIC. Thanks, Bob J 02X
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
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43434 From: Shepherd, Blake <blakeshepherd@c...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 2:13pm
Subject: RE: Re: OT: Anyone notice the Tripple Palindromic Date L astnight
but Off Topic posts will!
He he
-----Original Message-----
From: jeepin_in_az [mailto:jeepin_in_az@y...]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 3:11 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OT: Anyone notice the Tripple Palindromic Date
Lastnight
And it won't ever happen again.
Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "jeepthang87yj" <jeep_thang@h...> wrote:
> last night we had a Tripple Palindromic Date or Palindromic Clock
> moment if you do not know what that is I will explain.
>
> Last night at 8:02 was the beginning of 60 seconds that only
happens
> every 1001 years.
>
> The date 20/02
> The time (Military) 20:02 hrs
> the year is 2002
>
> Palindromic: A word, phrase, verse, or sentence that reads the same
> backward or forward
>
>
> Just thought that I would pass it on.
>
> Sincerely: JEEP THANG
>
> Larry Carmen and Emily
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43410 From: T.J. Nosmo-King <ice626@h...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 8:59am
Subject: Re: Quadratrac rebuild instructions
Hi Randy....I've got the 1975 Jeep Technical Service Manual and it has 18 pages of info for quadra-tracs....has complete rebuild instructions, w/pictures.....If you want to borrow it or copy it (I don't have access to a copier), I live in Mesa.....just let me know.....I can be reached at the numbers below.....
TJ Gill
75 CJ5
327/TH350
Ocotillo West Landscaping
480.325.5401
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43411 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 8:52am
Subject: RE: horsepower modifications?
You best power upgrade is GEARS!
Unless you want to dump a V8 in, a well thought out diff, trany and transfer case gearing is the best bet. and cheaper in the long run.
Ross
-----Original Message-----
From: Fred [mailto:fredtj@home.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:56 AM
To: Scott Kruize
Cc: AZ_VJC
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] horsepower modifications?
JP, I believe it was, did that test. If you look (and read) closely, you'll see that they really got nothing !!!!! It wasn't 2 ~ 4%, but maybe 2 ~ 4 hp, but that's all well within the error margin of the dyno.
The strokers do seem to produce some useful gains, and I think one of the superchargers does/did (the Rimmer one maybe). The other superchargers certainly produce more HP and torque, but it's all about what I would consider "useable" range, like above 3000 RPM.. Even the test in the magazine (JP ?) they didn't start looking at the results until above 2000 RPM, and most of the "gain" was seen way above that. When I'm wheeling, I'm rearly above 2000 rpm, maybe a little in the 2000 ~ 2500 range. BTW, the magazine qualified the results, or should I say, lack of results (I'm sure to try and please the advetisers), by saying "well, the vehicle *felt* better or *sounded* better. Hell that and $0.55 will buy me a soda.
Cheers,
Fred
Scott Kruize wrote:
One of the mags did a test and slapped on a bunch of mods such as exhaust,computer chip, intake, etc and only got a 2-4% improvement and sacrificedlowe end torque to gain the higher end horsepower. What we all want in aJeep is is more low end torque, not high end horsepower.Now the Hesco stroker kit on the other hand is a true mod that gets some lowend power by increasing your displacement from 4.0 to 4.7L which offers V8torque and horsepower from the straight 6.http://www.bc4x4.com/tech/bryce/stroker/stroker.cfmhttp://www.hescosc.com/cgi-bin/ez-catalog/cat_display.cgi?3X364946#khttp://www.off-road.com/jee
p/cherokee/98/04_apr/cored2.htmlScott K-----Original Message-----From: Shadow Wolf [mailto:shadowwolf@lvcm.com]Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 8:14 AMTo: flyboy0417@aol.com; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; Scott KruizeSubject: Re: [az_vjc] horsepower modifications?What about those turbo city upgrades. They don't give a whole lot but everylittle bit does from what I hear. Also they make a stroker kit for the4.0L I-6 that is suppose to bump it up to 260hp and 350 lbs torque. Butother than that I don't know of any other than what Scott said.David----- Original Message -----From: "Scott Kruize" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:41 PMSubject: RE: [az_vjc] horsepower modifications?
Been around Jeeps for years. I've owned 2 of them. Short of a V8 swap orinstalling a supercharger save your money.One of the Jeep mags did some tests lately that agree with what I've beensaying for years.Scott K-----Original Message-----From: flyboy0417@aol.com [mailto:flyboy0417@aol.com]Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 3:45 PMTo: az_vjc@yahoogroups.comSubject: [az_vjc] horsepower modifications?What are some horsepower mods i that are under 300 bucks and install
easily
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43412 From: kmichael02 <kmichael02@y...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 9:05am
Subject: BARTlet Lake ranger station
HOw do i get to it from tempe?
TIA
mike
43413 From: Fred <fredtj@h...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 9:13am
Subject: Re: Crown King
45 psi. Holy smokes. I don't know what you have for tires, but I don't
know of any, off the top of my head, that you should run, on the road,
at 45 psi !!
Cheers,
Fred
Jayke Thorpe wrote:
>Well I did my first wheeling trip yesterday. We went
>up to Crown King....AND WHAT A BLAST! Thank god there
>was another member up there. I have a '98 ZJ, 3.5
>lift, front air lockers, detroit rear, quick
>disconnects. I must have gotten out about 8 or 9
>times and told him there is absolutely NO WAY I can
>make it up there. The ledge was tricky. One was a hill
>with HUGE holles and bumps just past Fort Misery. I
>stared at it for a good 5 minutes. When I finally
>went up, I had such a rush I DID IT AGAIN! I had no
>idea what a difference lockers, lift,
>disconnects....oh yeah, and tire pressure makes. He
>was quick to point out I should let my tires down from
>45psi to 17psi. I am still on a HIGH! LETS GO!!!
>
>__________________________________________________
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games
>http://sports.yahoo.com
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
43414 From: Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 9:17am
Subject: Re: Crown King
--- Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...> wrote:
> I have Pirelli Scorpions 31x10.50. On the side wall
> it says max load at 50psi. So i figured 45psi.
> would
> be good. Should I run them lower?
> --- Fred <fredtj@h...> wrote:
> > 45 psi. Holy smokes. I don't know what you have
> for
> > tires, but I don't
> > know of any, off the top of my head, that you
> should
> > run, on the road,
> > at 45 psi !!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Fred
> >
> >
> > Jayke Thorpe wrote:
> >
> > >Well I did my first wheeling trip yesterday. We
> > went
> > >up to Crown King....AND WHAT A BLAST! Thank god
> > there
> > >was another member up there. I have a '98 ZJ,
> 3.5
> > >lift, front air lockers, detroit rear, quick
> > >disconnects. I must have gotten out about 8 or 9
> > >times and told him there is absolutely NO WAY I
> can
> > >make it up there. The ledge was tricky. One was a
> > hill
> > >with HUGE holles and bumps just past Fort Misery.
>
> > I
> > >stared at it for a good 5 minutes. When I
> finally
> > >went up, I had such a rush I DID IT AGAIN! I had
> > no
> > >idea what a difference lockers, lift,
> > >disconnects....oh yeah, and tire pressure makes.
> > He
> > >was quick to point out I should let my tires down
> > from
> > >45psi to 17psi. I am still on a HIGH! LETS
> GO!!!
> > >
> >
> >__________________________________________________
> > >Do You Yahoo!?
> > >Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic
> Games
> > >http://sports.yahoo.com
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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> >
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43415 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 9:18am
Subject: Re: Fr- 42 and Telegraph line road
I don't know if that is its "true name". Technically, it is marked as
"FR42" so "FR42" is probably its "true name" these days. But that other
name is certainly synonymous. I've also heard it called "the old telegraph
trail" or just "telegraph trail".
The trail - or at least part of it - was evidently the route of an old
telegraph line. Along parts of the trail there are stumps of cut-down
telegraph poles still sticking up out of the ground.
-Roger
> David Withers wrote:
>
> I'm looking at the Wells Trail book. The book is calling the trail we
> call fr-42, Telegraph line road. Is this it's true name?
> pg. 168
>
> David R. W. Withers
> Desk: 480.551.4667
> Mobile: 480.215.6992
43416 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 9:33am
Subject: Bartlett Lake OVH closures?
I ran FR42 last Sunday and I noticed a couple new signs stating that
OHV use is prohibited within the Bartlett Lake recreation area except
on FR42. One of these signs is at the pay station and the other is
along the sideroad towards the start of FR42.
Does anyone know if this closes any other trails out there?
-Roger
43417 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 9:46am
Subject: [FS] Wanted: Control Arms for XJ
Price: Neg.
Contact: Mike @ 623-930-6649
A friend of mine is looking for:
Used after-factory front control arms 16 1/2" to 16 7/8"
for an XJ, TJ, or ZJ. Please call Mike at 623-930-6649.
So, if anyone has these for sale, please contact Mike.
TIA
Bob
74 CJ-5
Robert Peck
43418 From: David Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 10:04am
Subject: Anyone have a relatively current Kelly blue book
the vehicle is too old to find the price on-line
David R. W. Withers
Desk: 480.551.4667
Mobile: 480.215.6992
43419 From: David R. W. Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 10:58am
Subject: RE: Anyone have a relatively current Kelly blue book
If you would have read the entire e-mail, you know that won't work.
-----Original Message-----
From: ERIC C MARBLE [mailto:EMarble3@prodigy.net]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:14 AM
To: David Withers
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Anyone have a relatively current Kelly blue book
www.kbb.com
----- Original Message -----
From: David Withers
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:04 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Anyone have a relatively current Kelly blue book
the vehicle is too old to find the price on-line
David R. W. Withers
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Mobile: 480.215.6992
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43420 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 11:31am
Subject: Re: Crown King
Kinda like running with solid rubber tires. Generally, on road should be
some where around 28 to 32 psi. Off road pressure depends a lot on the tire.
I used to run BFG's (which are pretty flexy) at around 12 - 15psi, depending
on the trail. I suspect your Pirelli's are no stiffer than the BFG's.
45psi is way too high for any situation.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jayke Thorpe" <jeepboy_3@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Crown King
>
> --- Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...> wrote:
> > I have Pirelli Scorpions 31x10.50. On the side wall
> > it says max load at 50psi. So i figured 45psi.
> > would
> > be good. Should I run them lower?
> > --- Fred <fredtj@h...> wrote:
> > > 45 psi. Holy smokes. I don't know what you have
> > for
> > > tires, but I don't
> > > know of any, off the top of my head, that you
> > should
> > > run, on the road,
> > > at 45 psi !!
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Fred
> > >
> > >
> > > Jayke Thorpe wrote:
> > >
> > > >Well I did my first wheeling trip yesterday. We
> > > went
> > > >up to Crown King....AND WHAT A BLAST! Thank god
> > > there
> > > >was another member up there. I have a '98 ZJ,
> > 3.5
> > > >lift, front air lockers, detroit rear, quick
> > > >disconnects. I must have gotten out about 8 or 9
> > > >times and told him there is absolutely NO WAY I
> > can
> > > >make it up there. The ledge was tricky. One was a
> > > hill
> > > >with HUGE holles and bumps just past Fort Misery.
> >
> > > I
> > > >stared at it for a good 5 minutes. When I
> > finally
> > > >went up, I had such a rush I DID IT AGAIN! I had
> > > no
> > > >idea what a difference lockers, lift,
> > > >disconnects....oh yeah, and tire pressure makes.
> > > He
> > > >was quick to point out I should let my tires down
> > > from
> > > >45psi to 17psi. I am still on a HIGH! LETS
> > GO!!!
> > > >
> > >
> > >__________________________________________________
> > > >Do You Yahoo!?
> > > >Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic
> > Games
> > > >http://sports.yahoo.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games
> > http://sports.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
> __________________________________________________
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> http://sports.yahoo.com
>
>
>
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>
>
>
43421 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 11:31am
Subject: Re: Anyone have a relatively current Kelly blue book
www.kbb.com
----- Original Message -----
From: David Withers
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:04 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Anyone have a relatively current Kelly blue book
the vehicle is too old to find the price on-line
David R. W. Withers
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43422 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 11:39am
Subject: Re: Anyone have a relatively current Kelly blue book
On line kbb goes back as far as 1982 (at least for trucks). Anything older and a bb value is relatvely useless, which is why they likely don't go back any further. To go further back, you'll need a pretty old bb, which won't be relevant in today's market anyway, but I supose it may give you something to start with.
You may also wish to visit www.autotrader.com and search for the year and type your looking for to get a sense of the market.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: David Withers
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:04 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Anyone have a relatively current Kelly blue book
the vehicle is too old to find the price on-line
David R. W. Withers
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43423 From: Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 11:47am
Subject: Re: Crown King
Could the high pressure I am running cause the "Death
Wobble"?
--- DougB <azjeep@c...> wrote:
> Kinda like running with solid rubber tires.
> Generally, on road should be
> some where around 28 to 32 psi. Off road pressure
> depends a lot on the tire.
> I used to run BFG's (which are pretty flexy) at
> around 12 - 15psi, depending
> on the trail. I suspect your Pirelli's are no
> stiffer than the BFG's.
>
> 45psi is way too high for any situation.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jayke Thorpe" <jeepboy_3@y...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Crown King
>
>
> >
> > --- Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...> wrote:
> > > I have Pirelli Scorpions 31x10.50. On the side
> wall
> > > it says max load at 50psi. So i figured 45psi.
> > > would
> > > be good. Should I run them lower?
> > > --- Fred <fredtj@h...> wrote:
> > > > 45 psi. Holy smokes. I don't know what you
> have
> > > for
> > > > tires, but I don't
> > > > know of any, off the top of my head, that you
> > > should
> > > > run, on the road,
> > > > at 45 psi !!
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Fred
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jayke Thorpe wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Well I did my first wheeling trip yesterday.
> We
> > > > went
> > > > >up to Crown King....AND WHAT A BLAST! Thank
> god
> > > > there
> > > > >was another member up there. I have a '98
> ZJ,
> > > 3.5
> > > > >lift, front air lockers, detroit rear, quick
> > > > >disconnects. I must have gotten out about 8
> or 9
> > > > >times and told him there is absolutely NO WAY
> I
> > > can
> > > > >make it up there. The ledge was tricky. One
> was a
> > > > hill
> > > > >with HUGE holles and bumps just past Fort
> Misery.
> > >
> > > > I
> > > > >stared at it for a good 5 minutes. When I
> > > finally
> > > > >went up, I had such a rush I DID IT AGAIN! I
> had
> > > > no
> > > > >idea what a difference lockers, lift,
> > > > >disconnects....oh yeah, and tire pressure
> makes.
> > > > He
> > > > >was quick to point out I should let my tires
> down
> > > > from
> > > > >45psi to 17psi. I am still on a HIGH! LETS
> > > GO!!!
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >__________________________________________________
> > > > >Do You Yahoo!?
> > > > >Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic
> > > Games
> > > > >http://sports.yahoo.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> __________________________________________________
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic
> Games
> > > http://sports.yahoo.com
> > >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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> > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games
> > http://sports.yahoo.com
> >
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> >
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>
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43424 From: tjsr4r0cks <dkober@g...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 11:49am
Subject: Re: BARTlet Lake ranger station
101 north till it dumps you on Pima Rd. Pima Rd north to Cave Creek
Rd. Right on Cave Creek Rd to Bartlett Lake Rd. Right onto Bartlett
Lake Rd. The ranger station is on the left.
Dave
99 TJ
--- In az_vjc@y..., "kmichael02" <kmichael02@y...> wrote:
> HOw do i get to it from tempe?
>
> TIA
>
> mike
43425 From: msa12171 <msa12171@a...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 11:55am
Subject: Re: Where to buy a CB in East Valley
It might be a little far for you but Bronco One is great! The
service is unmatched and a good selection and prices. Try them.
They are on 32nd St. north of Greenway on the west side of the road.
Mike A.
43426 From: Robert McNeeley <robert.mcneeley@p...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 11:57am
Subject: RE: Crown King
The Death Wobble could be the tire. My dad has the same tires on his truck
and until they get hot the bounce all over the road. The first time I drove
his truck I thought he had a bad tire.
Fat Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Jayke Thorpe [mailto:jeepboy_3@y...]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 12:48 PM
To: DougB
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Crown King
Could the high pressure I am running cause the "Death
Wobble"?
--- DougB <azjeep@c...> wrote:
> Kinda like running with solid rubber tires.
> Generally, on road should be
> some where around 28 to 32 psi. Off road pressure
> depends a lot on the tire.
> I used to run BFG's (which are pretty flexy) at
> around 12 - 15psi, depending
> on the trail. I suspect your Pirelli's are no
> stiffer than the BFG's.
>
> 45psi is way too high for any situation.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jayke Thorpe" <jeepboy_3@y...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Crown King
>
>
> >
> > --- Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...> wrote:
> > > I have Pirelli Scorpions 31x10.50. On the side
> wall
> > > it says max load at 50psi. So i figured 45psi.
> > > would
> > > be good. Should I run them lower?
> > > --- Fred <fredtj@h...> wrote:
> > > > 45 psi. Holy smokes. I don't know what you
> have
> > > for
> > > > tires, but I don't
> > > > know of any, off the top of my head, that you
> > > should
> > > > run, on the road,
> > > > at 45 psi !!
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Fred
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jayke Thorpe wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Well I did my first wheeling trip yesterday.
> We
> > > > went
> > > > >up to Crown King....AND WHAT A BLAST! Thank
> god
> > > > there
> > > > >was another member up there. I have a '98
> ZJ,
> > > 3.5
> > > > >lift, front air lockers, detroit rear, quick
> > > > >disconnects. I must have gotten out about 8
> or 9
> > > > >times and told him there is absolutely NO WAY
> I
> > > can
> > > > >make it up there. The ledge was tricky. One
> was a
> > > > hill
> > > > >with HUGE holles and bumps just past Fort
> Misery.
> > >
> > > > I
> > > > >stared at it for a good 5 minutes. When I
> > > finally
> > > > >went up, I had such a rush I DID IT AGAIN! I
> had
> > > > no
> > > > >idea what a difference lockers, lift,
> > > > >disconnects....oh yeah, and tire pressure
> makes.
> > > > He
> > > > >was quick to point out I should let my tires
> down
> > > > from
> > > > >45psi to 17psi. I am still on a HIGH! LETS
> > > GO!!!
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >__________________________________________________
> > > > >Do You Yahoo!?
> > > > >Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic
> > > Games
> > > > >http://sports.yahoo.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> __________________________________________________
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic
> Games
> > > http://sports.yahoo.com
> > >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games
> > http://sports.yahoo.com
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
>
>
__________________________________________________
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43427 From: tjsr4r0cks <dkober@g...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 11:56am
Subject: Re: Crown King
Here is a link with write ups on both off and on road tire pressure.
Dave
99 TJ
--- In az_vjc@y..., Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...> wrote:
> Could the high pressure I am running cause the "Death
> Wobble"?
> --- DougB <azjeep@c...> wrote:
> > Kinda like running with solid rubber tires.
> > Generally, on road should be
> > some where around 28 to 32 psi. Off road pressure
> > depends a lot on the tire.
> > I used to run BFG's (which are pretty flexy) at
> > around 12 - 15psi, depending
> > on the trail. I suspect your Pirelli's are no
> > stiffer than the BFG's.
> >
> > 45psi is way too high for any situation.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jayke Thorpe" <jeepboy_3@y...>
> > To: <az_vjc@y...>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:17 AM
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Crown King
> >
> >
> > >
> > > --- Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...> wrote:
> > > > I have Pirelli Scorpions 31x10.50. On the side
> > wall
> > > > it says max load at 50psi. So i figured 45psi.
> > > > would
> > > > be good. Should I run them lower?
> > > > --- Fred <fredtj@h...> wrote:
> > > > > 45 psi. Holy smokes. I don't know what you
> > have
> > > > for
> > > > > tires, but I don't
> > > > > know of any, off the top of my head, that you
> > > > should
> > > > > run, on the road,
> > > > > at 45 psi !!
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Fred
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jayke Thorpe wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Well I did my first wheeling trip yesterday.
> > We
> > > > > went
> > > > > >up to Crown King....AND WHAT A BLAST! Thank
> > god
> > > > > there
> > > > > >was another member up there. I have a '98
> > ZJ,
> > > > 3.5
> > > > > >lift, front air lockers, detroit rear, quick
> > > > > >disconnects. I must have gotten out about 8
> > or 9
> > > > > >times and told him there is absolutely NO WAY
> > I
> > > > can
> > > > > >make it up there. The ledge was tricky. One
> > was a
> > > > > hill
> > > > > >with HUGE holles and bumps just past Fort
> > Misery.
> > > >
> > > > > I
> > > > > >stared at it for a good 5 minutes. When I
> > > > finally
> > > > > >went up, I had such a rush I DID IT AGAIN! I
> > had
> > > > > no
> > > > > >idea what a difference lockers, lift,
> > > > > >disconnects....oh yeah, and tire pressure
> > makes.
> > > > > He
> > > > > >was quick to point out I should let my tires
> > down
> > > > > from
> > > > > >45psi to 17psi. I am still on a HIGH! LETS
> > > > GO!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >__________________________________________________
> > > > > >Do You Yahoo!?
> > > > > >Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic
> > > > Games
> > > > > >http://sports.yahoo.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > __________________________________________________
> > > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic
> > Games
> > > > http://sports.yahoo.com
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games
> > > http://sports.yahoo.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games
> http://sports.yahoo.com
43428 From: tjsr4r0cks <dkober@g...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 0:07pm
Subject: Re: Crown King
Ooops
http://www.performanceunlimited.com/documents/index.html
Sorry
--- In az_vjc@y..., "tjsr4r0cks" <dkober@g...> wrote:
> Here is a link with write ups on both off and on road tire pressure.
>
> Dave
> 99 TJ
> --- In az_vjc@y..., Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...> wrote:
> > Could the high pressure I am running cause the "Death
> > Wobble"?
> > --- DougB <azjeep@c...> wrote:
> > > Kinda like running with solid rubber tires.
> > > Generally, on road should be
> > > some where around 28 to 32 psi. Off road pressure
> > > depends a lot on the tire.
> > > I used to run BFG's (which are pretty flexy) at
> > > around 12 - 15psi, depending
> > > on the trail. I suspect your Pirelli's are no
> > > stiffer than the BFG's.
> > >
> > > 45psi is way too high for any situation.
> > >
> > > Doug
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jayke Thorpe" <jeepboy_3@y...>
> > > To: <az_vjc@y...>
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:17 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Crown King
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...> wrote:
> > > > > I have Pirelli Scorpions 31x10.50. On the side
> > > wall
> > > > > it says max load at 50psi. So i figured 45psi.
> > > > > would
> > > > > be good. Should I run them lower?
> > > > > --- Fred <fredtj@h...> wrote:
> > > > > > 45 psi. Holy smokes. I don't know what you
> > > have
> > > > > for
> > > > > > tires, but I don't
> > > > > > know of any, off the top of my head, that you
> > > > > should
> > > > > > run, on the road,
> > > > > > at 45 psi !!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Fred
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jayke Thorpe wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Well I did my first wheeling trip yesterday.
> > > We
> > > > > > went
> > > > > > >up to Crown King....AND WHAT A BLAST! Thank
> > > god
> > > > > > there
> > > > > > >was another member up there. I have a '98
> > > ZJ,
> > > > > 3.5
> > > > > > >lift, front air lockers, detroit rear, quick
> > > > > > >disconnects. I must have gotten out about 8
> > > or 9
> > > > > > >times and told him there is absolutely NO WAY
> > > I
> > > > > can
> > > > > > >make it up there. The ledge was tricky. One
> > > was a
> > > > > > hill
> > > > > > >with HUGE holles and bumps just past Fort
> > > Misery.
> > > > >
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > >stared at it for a good 5 minutes. When I
> > > > > finally
> > > > > > >went up, I had such a rush I DID IT AGAIN! I
> > > had
> > > > > > no
> > > > > > >idea what a difference lockers, lift,
> > > > > > >disconnects....oh yeah, and tire pressure
> > > makes.
> > > > > > He
> > > > > > >was quick to point out I should let my tires
> > > down
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > >45psi to 17psi. I am still on a HIGH! LETS
> > > > > GO!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >__________________________________________________
> > > > > > >Do You Yahoo!?
> > > > > > >Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic
> > > > > Games
> > > > > > >http://sports.yahoo.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > > > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic
> > > Games
> > > > > http://sports.yahoo.com
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > __________________________________________________
> > > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games
> > > > http://sports.yahoo.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games
> > http://sports.yahoo.com
43429 From: jeepthang87yj <jeep_thang@h...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 1:29pm
Subject: OT: Anyone notice the Tripple Palindromic Date Lastnight
last night we had a Tripple Palindromic Date or Palindromic Clock
moment if you do not know what that is I will explain.
Last night at 8:02 was the beginning of 60 seconds that only happens
every 1001 years.
The date 20/02
The time (Military) 20:02 hrs
the year is 2002
Palindromic: A word, phrase, verse, or sentence that reads the same
backward or forward
Just thought that I would pass it on.
Sincerely: JEEP THANG
Larry Carmen and Emily
43430 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 1:33pm
Subject: [FS] RIMS AND TIRES- 32X11.5
Price: $500
Contact: buckelew3@postmark.net
(4) 32x11.5x15 Remington Mud Brutes and a 30x9.5 spare on 15x8 Prime's. Mud Brutes are in good condition, only couple thousand miles on them, if that. Spare is practically brand new, it's a Dueler A/T. $500, so it's like paying $75 a tire and $25 rim. Will meet buyer halfway, can ship for a tad extra.
thanks..John
Email me for pics
or try this page....
http://forums.jeepsunlimited.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/015878.html
John buckelew
43431 From: stallonedev <stallonedev@y...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 1:59pm
Subject: RE Big Thks to John Butler, and 4 Wheelers
I just wanted to let everybody know how great of a guy John Butler
really is. He invited me to his house to help put in my RE
bushings. For those people who have done this procedure before, they
know its not very fun nor easy. However John new how much work it
was going to take to put them in and he offered to help. However
while trying to put them in we ran into some trouble with the 20 ton
press. However he still took 3 hours out of his busy schedule to
help me out even though we never got the bushings in. As for 4
Wheelers, they seem to know what they are doing all the time and only
charged me $50 to put all 6 bushings in 'thanks Dave'. Well I just
wanted to let people know what great guys these people are and for
everybody else in this club that helps out with each project of ours
at the AZVJC. Even if its over the internet or going to their house
and doing manual labor. I just wanted to say Thanks Again
Anthony Stallone
43432 From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 2:11pm
Subject: Re: OT: Anyone notice the Tripple Palindromic Date Lastnight
And it won't ever happen again.
Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "jeepthang87yj" <jeep_thang@h...> wrote:
> last night we had a Tripple Palindromic Date or Palindromic Clock
> moment if you do not know what that is I will explain.
>
> Last night at 8:02 was the beginning of 60 seconds that only
happens
> every 1001 years.
>
> The date 20/02
> The time (Military) 20:02 hrs
> the year is 2002
>
> Palindromic: A word, phrase, verse, or sentence that reads the same
> backward or forward
>
>
> Just thought that I would pass it on.
>
> Sincerely: JEEP THANG
>
> Larry Carmen and Emily
43433 From: Mike Hoyt <mike@v...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 2:10pm
Subject: Re: Where to buy a CB in East Valley
Bob,
You might also try CB Exchange in Mesa (6336 I. Main St - 480.844.7200)
-Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randall A.Mutter" <ramaz@c...>
To: "'Bob Jacques'" <bjacques@m...>;
<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:52 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Where to buy a CB in East Valley
> Hi Bob
>
> I got mine at Radio Shack.com store at Country Club + Southern (the old
> Home Depot location). They have a nice selection at good prices. There
> was even a sales person there that was very helpful.
>
> Good luck
>
> Randy
>
> Randall A. Mutter 95XJ, 76 CJ-7
> ramaz@c...
>
> Thank goodness there are no 12 step programs for Jeeping...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Jacques [mailto:bjacques@m...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:45 AM
> To: 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: [az_vjc] Where to buy a CB in East Valley
>
>
> Hello, Can anyone advise me where to get a basic CB and Ant for my TJ in
> the
> East Valley?? Emphasis on BASIC. Thanks, Bob J 02X
>
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43434 From: Shepherd, Blake <blakeshepherd@c...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 2:13pm
Subject: RE: Re: OT: Anyone notice the Tripple Palindromic Date L astnight
but Off Topic posts will!
He he
-----Original Message-----
From: jeepin_in_az [mailto:jeepin_in_az@y...]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 3:11 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OT: Anyone notice the Tripple Palindromic Date
Lastnight
And it won't ever happen again.
Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "jeepthang87yj" <jeep_thang@h...> wrote:
> last night we had a Tripple Palindromic Date or Palindromic Clock
> moment if you do not know what that is I will explain.
>
> Last night at 8:02 was the beginning of 60 seconds that only
happens
> every 1001 years.
>
> The date 20/02
> The time (Military) 20:02 hrs
> the year is 2002
>
> Palindromic: A word, phrase, verse, or sentence that reads the same
> backward or forward
>
>
> Just thought that I would pass it on.
>
> Sincerely: JEEP THANG
>
> Larry Carmen and Emily
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