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42960 From: R.J. Baynum <cyberphoenix@q...>
Date: Sat Feb 16, 2002 9:01pm
Subject: wave back?, but is anybody...inviting new members?
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 10:01:07 -0600
Wave back is all well and great, but is that ALL?!!I personally made Up a nice little flyer, about the FSJ group, with my name and e mail, and a written invite to potential members. Every time I see FSJ 's weather on the roads, doing errands, going to school, I make sure to keep a stack of Flyers in my Honcho and my Volvo every day. So far at least 5 times this year alone I banged a U turn, to track a person, or followed them, to hand them in person a flyer,( sometimes a wind shield is fine) with a warm big smile, and a friendly greeting, and ask about their FSJ and tell them about the group. Chances are they love to talk about their FSJ!And all of them have seem for the most part very interested about the group and often thank me! Two have people remarked, that it was a great idea. I figured if they did not love their FSJ by now, They would not have k
ept for very long. It's a love/hate thing for sure!So if they are Driving one, chances are, they love it..Some People who drive a FSJ have said, They have never heard of a "FSJ".. "What is a .."FSJ"? ( they get it confused with a XJ).. or "Where can I get some Advice or parts about my wagoneer? Is a Cherokee a FSJ? Not many people know much about them , What Makes , and models, and who made what, and the Quadra trac is confusing for some, but they love it just the same. " I have heard that statement as well. Maybe it reminds them of a bygone era, as it always has for me when I was small boy growing up. I saw the pictures in the all the outdoor Magazines, of the Wagoneer, Cherokee and Grand Wagoneer, with the Canoe on top, and the Camping gear, always ready for the open road and adventure! It was Beautiful! The lines, the grill and real 4x4 Full time drive( at least I thought. hey I was a kid...;) I saw the Wagoneer and it's kind, as the romantic Rugged tough Outdoors type vehicle! I still do today, every time I look at those lines, and the woody sides, complete with luggage rack just waiting to take me away. It's powerful V8, always ready to take me on another adventurous journey into the wilderness where no other humans can be found for hundreds of miles. So hey ..Please get out there and promote the Group! Make friends with FSJ'S!!!Stop, Get out and wave them to come over!!!! Say hello! say.. HI! How are you ?!Start a conversation! Strangers are only friends you have not met!So get out there and DO SOMETHING about it!R.J. ( the coach) BaynumHead HonchoHuntsville Alabama (256) 881-801880 J-10 HonchoIf you need a Flyer .. ask me..1FSJ@yahoogroups.comFSJ_SE@yahoogroups.com
FSJ-NW@yahoogroups.comhttp:www.wagoneers.com http://www.fsjmagazine.comFrom: "Lonnie & Renee' Elliott"
Subject: Re: wave backs
oh, yeah. There is a college girl who drives a white Waggie with the wood
grain painted in zebra stripes. She waves, as do all the lifted Wag
drivers. And the Highway Patrolmen who have Waggies. In a town of about
7000 people. More in Amarillo.
Lon 81WT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lonnie & Renee' Elliott"
> There are so many FSJs, especially Waggies here, that the waves are
usually
> between the WT Chero crowd and the Gladiator drivers.
> Lon 81WT
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Date: Sat Feb 16, 2002 8:49pm
Subject: [FS] Wheels
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Contact: stinger75ih@cox.net
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42962 From: hiett710 <hiett710@y...>
Date: Sat Feb 16, 2002 9:00pm
Subject: Re: wave back?, but is anybody...inviting new members?
I'm absolutely positive that it's not legal to stalk anyone even to
just try and get them to join our club :)
Mike
02 Yellow TJ
--- In az_vjc@y..., "R.J. Baynum" <cyberphoenix@q...> wrote:
> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 10:01:07 -0600
>
>
> Wave back is all well and great, but is that ALL?!!
>
> I personally made Up a nice little flyer, about the FSJ group, with
my name and e mail, and a written invite to potential members.
> Every time I see FSJ 's weather on the roads, doing errands,
going to school, I make sure to keep a stack of Flyers in my Honcho
and my Volvo every day.
> So far at least 5 times this year alone I banged a U turn, to track
a person, or followed them, to hand them in person a flyer,(
sometimes a wind shield is fine) with a warm big smile, and a
friendly greeting, and ask about their FSJ and tell them about the
group.
> Chances are they love to talk about their FSJ!
> And all of them have seem for the most part very interested about
the group and often thank me!
> Two have people remarked, that it was a great idea. I figured if
they did not love their FSJ by now, They would not have kept for very
long. It's a love/hate thing for sure!
> So if they are Driving one, chances are, they love it..
>
> Some People who drive a FSJ have said, They have never heard of
a "FSJ".. "What is a .."FSJ"? ( they get it confused with a XJ)..
or "Where can I get some Advice or parts about my wagoneer? Is a
Cherokee a FSJ?
> Not many people know much about them , What Makes , and models,
and who made what, and the Quadra trac is confusing for some, but
they love it just the same. " I have heard that statement as well.
Maybe it reminds them of a bygone era, as it always has for me when I
was small boy growing up. I saw the pictures in the all the outdoor
Magazines, of the Wagoneer, Cherokee and Grand Wagoneer, with the
Canoe on top, and the Camping gear, always ready for the open road
and adventure! It was Beautiful! The lines, the grill and real 4x4
Full time drive( at least I thought. hey I was a kid...;) I saw the
Wagoneer and it's kind, as the romantic Rugged tough Outdoors type
vehicle! I still do today, every time I look at those lines, and the
woody sides, complete with luggage rack just waiting to take me away.
It's powerful V8, always ready to take me on another adventurous
journey into the wilderness where no other humans can be found for
hundreds of miles.
> So hey ..
> Please get out there and promote the Group! Make friends with
FSJ'S!!!
> Stop, Get out and wave them to come over!!!! Say hello! say.. HI!
How are you ?!
> Start a conversation! Strangers are only friends you have not met!
>
> So get out there and DO SOMETHING about it!
>
> R.J. ( the coach) Baynum
> Head Honcho
> Huntsville Alabama (256) 881-8018
> 80 J-10 Honcho
> If you need a Flyer .. ask me..
> 1FSJ@y...
> FSJ_SE@y...
> FSJ-NW@y...
> http:www.wagoneers.com
> http://www.fsjmagazine.com
>
>
>
>
>
> From: "Lonnie & Renee' Elliott" <bikegeex@a...>
> Subject: Re: wave backs
>
> oh, yeah. There is a college girl who drives a white Waggie with
the wood
> grain painted in zebra stripes. She waves, as do all the lifted Wag
> drivers. And the Highway Patrolmen who have Waggies. In a town of
about
> 7000 people. More in Amarillo.
> Lon 81WT
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lonnie & Renee' Elliott"
>
> >> There are so many FSJs, especially Waggies here, that the waves
are
> >
> usually
>
> >> between the WT Chero crowd and the Gladiator drivers.
> >> Lon 81WT
> >
42963 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sat Feb 16, 2002 9:14pm
Subject: [FS] PARTS
Price: Take a look!
Contact: bguertin@home.com
I have a brand new grill guard/brush guard for a jeep GRAND cherokee. Bought for my 1997 but not put on so it fits similar body style. Also have tail light gaurds for same. Come look/sell for 350.00 and is black in color. Also have stock bumpers front and rear for a 98 TJ jeep wrangler with the plastic ends. DEALER PRICE is a joke, sell for 200.00/obo. Also have stock suspention parts (what was taken off to put my lift kit on) for a 1997 grand cherokee. CALL 602-909-0603
Bob Guertin
42964 From: Chris b <offroadfun@t...>
Date: Sat Feb 16, 2002 9:12pm
Subject: Jeep Evo2 Game
Hey I was just on the jeep.com site and they have a jeep 4x4 game you can download for free. its pretty cool, It has little videos that tell you how to "drive offroad". Their having a competition, whoever scores the highest can win jeep goodies. this isn't a plug for them I promise. I just thought you guys might enjoy a jeep game and a little competition..
http://www.jeep.com/adventure/home.jsp
My sucky *** score for the training 101 track is:
Final Score 34069
penalty 431
time: 11:24.59
If you report the forest fire to the rangers you get a winch.
I'll post my score from the next round, if I make it.. it has some huge boulders to climb.
42965 From: jb_wrnglr <JNB4PLS@a...>
Date: Sat Feb 16, 2002 9:39pm
Subject: Public Thanks in Order
I want to take this opportunity to thank Rick Bier yet again for a
great deal on my new shoes and also thank him for his great customer
service. If anyone is looking to buy new tires and you don't at
least talk to Rick, you are missing an opportunity.
Secondly, I want to thank Scott Kruize for his help in reinforcing my
upper control arm mount today. It had begun to elongate and was
wreaking havoc on the uunderside of my TJ. Some finely sculpted 1/4"
plate by Scott and a great welding job made it better than new. I
also want to thank Scott for painting it black and not purple <grin>.
Thanks to Theresa for a great lunch and the rest of the guys that
lent a hand, you know who you are ;-)
Best Regards,
John Butler
PS: I owe you guys
42966 From: ezrydr1 <gmaclaren@c...>
Date: Sat Feb 16, 2002 10:44pm
Subject: Invite
The Casa Grande 4 Wheelers will be running The Martinez Canyon trail
on Feb 23rd. Anyone that wants to tag along is more than welcome. You
prolly should have 31's and locked on one end. It will be the trip
leaders call, as to proper equipmment. This will be an all day run,
so come prepared. Etra parts would be good. If there is any interest,
I will post the time and meeting place. Hope to see some of you there.
42967 From: Casper <casper@c...>
Date: Sat Feb 16, 2002 10:10pm
Subject: Test
Tests
42968 From: Casper <casper@c...>
Date: Sat Feb 16, 2002 10:48pm
Subject: Test
Test
42969 From: steverino1112000 <steverino1112000@y...>
Date: Sat Feb 16, 2002 10:55pm
Subject: Re: Invite
Ther is already a run for Martinez on the 23rd. You may want to post
at different times. I went up there last week and got behind some
other group and it took quite a while to get through. It is a great
trail but with too many vehicles it can take the fun out of it. Have
a good trip.
Nick
--- In az_vjc@y..., "ezrydr1" <gmaclaren@c...> wrote:
> The Casa Grande 4 Wheelers will be running The Martinez Canyon
trail
> on Feb 23rd. Anyone that wants to tag along is more than welcome.
You
> prolly should have 31's and locked on one end. It will be the trip
> leaders call, as to proper equipmment. This will be an all day run,
> so come prepared. Etra parts would be good. If there is any
interest,
> I will post the time and meeting place. Hope to see some of you
there.
42970 From: Tom LaFrance <tlafrance@j...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 6:06am
Subject: [FS] YJ Hardtop
FYI, a guy had one at a yard sale yesterday. It was black, in like new
condition and he only wanted $400.00 for it. He sold his Jeep without
it. Call him directly, his name is Shawn 480-807-5073. He lives on
Higley and Southern.
Tom LaFrance
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"I don't need 4wd, the guy in front of me has it"
42971 From: jetowle2000 <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 6:19am
Subject: Re: possible ox shifter mount idea
I don't like the way the cable runs across the rear floor. That would
get in the way of any person or animal riding in the back seat.
One thing I don't get about the picture is why he needs OX lockers
when he has ARB's. Can you install both? :)
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., "paparoach85251" <lespaparoach@m...> wrote:
> I recently came across this idea for mounting my ox shifters after
a
> post on JU. Take a look at this link where a guy mounted his rear
ox
> shifter in his cup holder with the use of a home made plate. I am
> considering mounting mine in the two cup holders in my TJ console
> using a similar but longer plate. Who needs cup holders anyway?
>
> LINK: http://www.4wdlinks.com/tech/ox_locker_shift_plate.htm
>
> What do you guys think?
>
> Les
42972 From: Rollie kent <jeeprkl@h...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 6:58am
Subject: taigate 96 Grand
I need a tailgate for my 96 Grand. My wife found a tellephone pole. I would like to replace it may self. Anyone know where I might get one---new or used???
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42973 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 7:37am
Subject: [FS] Need the tele # for Brian at Trail Werkz or Jeep Werkz
Price:
Contact: sshellenberger@hotmail.com
I am looking for the number to Brian at Trail Werkz or Jeep Werkz (I can't remember the name). Please help. sshellenberger@hotmail.com
42974 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 7:54am
Subject: Re: Re: possible ox shifter mount idea
Nope, he has an ARB in the front and an Ox in the back. If you look at
the text, it says that the two front switches are for front ARB and the
ARB compressor.
Chris
On Sunday, February 17, 2002, at 07:19 AM, jetowle2000 wrote:
>
> I don't like the way the cable runs across the rear floor. That would
> get in the way of any person or animal riding in the back seat.
> One thing I don't get about the picture is why he needs OX lockers
> when he has ARB's. Can you install both? :)
>
> --James
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "paparoach85251" <lespaparoach@m...> wrote:
>> I recently came across this idea for mounting my ox shifters after
> a
>> post on JU. Take a look at this link where a guy mounted his rear
> ox
>> shifter in his cup holder with the use of a home made plate. I am
>> considering mounting mine in the two cup holders in my TJ console
>> using a similar but longer plate. Who needs cup holders anyway?
>>
>> LINK: http://www.4wdlinks.com/tech/ox_locker_shift_plate.htm
>>
>> What do you guys think?
>>
>> Les
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
42975 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 8:24am
Subject: RE: [FS] Need the tele # for Brian at Trail Werkz or Jeep Werkz
Arizona Trailwerks
3100 NW Grand Ave.
Phoenix, AZ 85017
(view map)
(800) 254-1922 toll free
(602) 254-1551 within Arizona
(602) 254-0129 fax
trailwerks@aol.com
-----Original Message-----
From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@azvjc.org]
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 3:37 PM
To: AzVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] [FS] Need the tele # for Brian at Trail Werkz or Jeep Werkz
Price:
Contact: sshellenberger@hotmail.com
I am looking for the number to Brian at Trail Werkz or Jeep Werkz (I can't remember the name). Please help. sshellenberger@hotmail.com
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
42976 From: soulsurvivor62 <soulsurvivor62@y...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 8:43am
Subject: FS: Stock TJ 15X8 Aluminum rims
15x8" Aluminum rims, 5 X 4.25", stock TJ, I have 4 for sale. Good
cond, a few minor rock scrapes. $65 OBO. Gary 602-686-0656
42977 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 9:09am
Subject: TJ D44 vs. D35c
I thought this was interesting http://home.att.net/~email.id/Dana.jpg .
So minus the c-clips and bigger axle shafts, the D44 is really a D35c for a
TJ. Sounds like the Super 35 kit would be the best upgrade for D35c owners
other than going to D60's.
--James
You can read where the measurements were taken from at:
http://forums.jeepsunlimited.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/003226.html
42978 From: Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 9:15am
Subject: RE: Jeep Evo2 Game
I have EVO2 for my XBOX. Whenever other Jeepers come over it seems to be a favorite. I even have a career Wrangler I've been building up called "Daddy Longlegs"
hehe
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris b [mailto:offroadfun@thejeepfiles.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 10:13 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Jeep Evo2 Game
Hey I was just on the jeep.com site and they have a jeep 4x4 game you can download for free. its pretty cool, It has little videos that tell you how to "drive offroad". Their having a competition, whoever scores the highest can win jeep goodies. this isn't a plug for them I promise. I just thought you guys might enjoy a jeep game and a little competition..
http://www.jeep.com/adventure/home.jsp
My sucky *** score for the training 101 track is:
Final Score 34069
penalty 431
time: 11:24.59
If you report the forest fire to the rangers you get a winch.
I'll post my score from the next round, if I make it.. it has some huge boulders to climb.
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
42979 From: ezrydr1 <gmaclaren@c...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 9:15am
Subject: RE: Invite
Hah, mabe we will get there first.
42980 From: Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 9:19am
Subject: RE: TJ D44 vs. D35c
I beg to differ. The Dana 44 also has a much stronger ring and pinion,
larger carrier, & bigger brakes, as well as the stronger axleshafts and no
c-clip that you mentioned.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: James Towle [mailto:James.Towle@a...]
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 10:09 AM
To: AZ_VJC
Subject: [az_vjc] TJ D44 vs. D35c
I thought this was interesting http://home.att.net/~email.id/Dana.jpg .
So minus the c-clips and bigger axle shafts, the D44 is really a D35c for a
TJ. Sounds like the Super 35 kit would be the best upgrade for D35c owners
other than going to D60's.
--James
You can read where the measurements were taken from at:
http://forums.jeepsunlimited.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/003226.html
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
42981 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 9:27am
Subject: RE: TJ D44 vs. D35c
James,
Don't forget the difference in ring gear size and pinion size...
The only thing that the chart shows is that AXLE TUBE dimensions are the
same between the D35C and the D44.
EVERYTHING else on the D44 is larger and stronger than the D35 (except for
brakes).
The D44 will always be the better choice than the D35C.
A D44 will always be a better choice than a D35C with a Super 35 kit.
You're conclusion that the Super 35 Kit is a good option for those who have
a D35C is correct, but your logic behind your conclusion is somewhat flawed.
If you have a choice when picking out your Jeep... choose a D44.
If you are unfortunate enough to be stuck with a D35C; upgrade to a Super 35
when you can; I still have yet to hear of someone breaking one.
Kind Regards,
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Towle [mailto:James.Towle@a...]
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 10:09 AM
> To: AZ_VJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] TJ D44 vs. D35c
>
>
>
> I thought this was interesting
> http://home.att.net/~email.id/Dana.jpg .
>
> So minus the c-clips and bigger axle shafts, the D44 is
> really a D35c for a
> TJ. Sounds like the Super 35 kit would be the best upgrade
> for D35c owners
> other than going to D60's.
>
> --James
>
> You can read where the measurements were taken from at:
> http://forums.jeepsunlimited.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/003226.html
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
42982 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 9:29am
Subject: Re: TJ D44 vs. D35c
Higher spline count...which goes with larger axles. And as Scott said, a
bigger and stronger r&p. The only thing the TJ D44 has in common w/ the D35c
is the axle tubes.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Kruize" <scottkruize@e...>
To: "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...>; "AZ_VJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 10:19 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] TJ D44 vs. D35c
> I beg to differ. The Dana 44 also has a much stronger ring and pinion,
> larger carrier, & bigger brakes, as well as the stronger axleshafts and no
> c-clip that you mentioned.
>
> Scott K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Towle [mailto:James.Towle@a...]
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 10:09 AM
> To: AZ_VJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] TJ D44 vs. D35c
>
>
>
> I thought this was interesting http://home.att.net/~email.id/Dana.jpg .
>
> So minus the c-clips and bigger axle shafts, the D44 is really a D35c for
a
> TJ. Sounds like the Super 35 kit would be the best upgrade for D35c owners
> other than going to D60's.
>
> --James
>
> You can read where the measurements were taken from at:
> http://forums.jeepsunlimited.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/003226.html
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
42983 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 9:32am
Subject: RE: TJ D44 vs. D35c
Dang Scott... you beat me to it!
<grin>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Kruize [mailto:scottkruize@e...]
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 10:20 AM
> To: James Towle; AZ_VJC
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] TJ D44 vs. D35c
>
>
> I beg to differ. The Dana 44 also has a much stronger ring and pinion,
> larger carrier, & bigger brakes, as well as the stronger
> axleshafts and no
> c-clip that you mentioned.
>
> Scott K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Towle [mailto:James.Towle@a...]
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 10:09 AM
> To: AZ_VJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] TJ D44 vs. D35c
>
>
>
> I thought this was interesting
> http://home.att.net/~email.id/Dana.jpg .
>
> So minus the c-clips and bigger axle shafts, the D44 is
> really a D35c for a
> TJ. Sounds like the Super 35 kit would be the best upgrade
> for D35c owners
> other than going to D60's.
>
> --James
>
> You can read where the measurements were taken from at:
> http://forums.jeepsunlimited.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/003226.html
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
42984 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 9:50am
Subject: RE: TJ D44 vs. D35c
Okay the ring & pinion but, over the last year I have been on this board and
others I have yet to hear someone say, their ring & pinion broke or their
carrier. Let me qualify that by saying, from wheeling. I have seen some
where somebody did a crappy install at one time or another. I could have
missed a few posts here and there. As for the brakes, if you are wanting
better brakes you would go with disc no bigger drums.
Joe is correct, if you were buying a new Jeep there is no reason not to get
the D44. But, if you have a D35 there is no reason to upgrade to a TJ D44.
It just doesn't make sense.
--James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@c...]
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 10:30 AM
> To: James Towle; AZ_VJC; Scott Kruize
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] TJ D44 vs. D35c
>
>
> Higher spline count...which goes with larger axles. And as Scott said, a
> bigger and stronger r&p. The only thing the TJ D44 has in common
> w/ the D35c
> is the axle tubes.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Kruize" <scottkruize@e...>
> To: "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...>; "AZ_VJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 10:19 AM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] TJ D44 vs. D35c
>
>
> > I beg to differ. The Dana 44 also has a much stronger ring and pinion,
> > larger carrier, & bigger brakes, as well as the stronger
> axleshafts and no
> > c-clip that you mentioned.
> >
> > Scott K
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Towle [mailto:James.Towle@a...]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 10:09 AM
> > To: AZ_VJC
> > Subject: [az_vjc] TJ D44 vs. D35c
> >
> >
> >
> > I thought this was interesting http://home.att.net/~email.id/Dana.jpg .
> >
> > So minus the c-clips and bigger axle shafts, the D44 is really
> a D35c for
> a
> > TJ. Sounds like the Super 35 kit would be the best upgrade for
> D35c owners
> > other than going to D60's.
> >
> > --James
> >
> > You can read where the measurements were taken from at:
> > http://forums.jeepsunlimited.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/003226.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
42960 From: R.J. Baynum <cyberphoenix@q...>
Date: Sat Feb 16, 2002 9:01pm
Subject: wave back?, but is anybody...inviting new members?
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 10:01:07 -0600
Wave back is all well and great, but is that ALL?!!I personally made Up a nice little flyer, about the FSJ group, with my name and e mail, and a written invite to potential members. Every time I see FSJ 's weather on the roads, doing errands, going to school, I make sure to keep a stack of Flyers in my Honcho and my Volvo every day. So far at least 5 times this year alone I banged a U turn, to track a person, or followed them, to hand them in person a flyer,( sometimes a wind shield is fine) with a warm big smile, and a friendly greeting, and ask about their FSJ and tell them about the group. Chances are they love to talk about their FSJ!And all of them have seem for the most part very interested about the group and often thank me! Two have people remarked, that it was a great idea. I figured if they did not love their FSJ by now, They would not have k
ept for very long. It's a love/hate thing for sure!So if they are Driving one, chances are, they love it..Some People who drive a FSJ have said, They have never heard of a "FSJ".. "What is a .."FSJ"? ( they get it confused with a XJ).. or "Where can I get some Advice or parts about my wagoneer? Is a Cherokee a FSJ? Not many people know much about them , What Makes , and models, and who made what, and the Quadra trac is confusing for some, but they love it just the same. " I have heard that statement as well. Maybe it reminds them of a bygone era, as it always has for me when I was small boy growing up. I saw the pictures in the all the outdoor Magazines, of the Wagoneer, Cherokee and Grand Wagoneer, with the Canoe on top, and the Camping gear, always ready for the open road and adventure! It was Beautiful! The lines, the grill and real 4x4 Full time drive( at least I thought. hey I was a kid...;) I saw the Wagoneer and it's kind, as the romantic Rugged tough Outdoors type vehicle! I still do today, every time I look at those lines, and the woody sides, complete with luggage rack just waiting to take me away. It's powerful V8, always ready to take me on another adventurous journey into the wilderness where no other humans can be found for hundreds of miles. So hey ..Please get out there and promote the Group! Make friends with FSJ'S!!!Stop, Get out and wave them to come over!!!! Say hello! say.. HI! How are you ?!Start a conversation! Strangers are only friends you have not met!So get out there and DO SOMETHING about it!R.J. ( the coach) BaynumHead HonchoHuntsville Alabama (256) 881-801880 J-10 HonchoIf you need a Flyer .. ask me..1FSJ@yahoogroups.comFSJ_SE@yahoogroups.com
FSJ-NW@yahoogroups.comhttp:www.wagoneers.com http://www.fsjmagazine.comFrom: "Lonnie & Renee' Elliott"
Subject: Re: wave backs
oh, yeah. There is a college girl who drives a white Waggie with the wood
grain painted in zebra stripes. She waves, as do all the lifted Wag
drivers. And the Highway Patrolmen who have Waggies. In a town of about
7000 people. More in Amarillo.
Lon 81WT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lonnie & Renee' Elliott"
> There are so many FSJs, especially Waggies here, that the waves are
usually
> between the WT Chero crowd and the Gladiator drivers.
> Lon 81WT
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Date: Sat Feb 16, 2002 8:49pm
Subject: [FS] Wheels
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Contact: stinger75ih@cox.net
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42962 From: hiett710 <hiett710@y...>
Date: Sat Feb 16, 2002 9:00pm
Subject: Re: wave back?, but is anybody...inviting new members?
I'm absolutely positive that it's not legal to stalk anyone even to
just try and get them to join our club :)
Mike
02 Yellow TJ
--- In az_vjc@y..., "R.J. Baynum" <cyberphoenix@q...> wrote:
> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 10:01:07 -0600
>
>
> Wave back is all well and great, but is that ALL?!!
>
> I personally made Up a nice little flyer, about the FSJ group, with
my name and e mail, and a written invite to potential members.
> Every time I see FSJ 's weather on the roads, doing errands,
going to school, I make sure to keep a stack of Flyers in my Honcho
and my Volvo every day.
> So far at least 5 times this year alone I banged a U turn, to track
a person, or followed them, to hand them in person a flyer,(
sometimes a wind shield is fine) with a warm big smile, and a
friendly greeting, and ask about their FSJ and tell them about the
group.
> Chances are they love to talk about their FSJ!
> And all of them have seem for the most part very interested about
the group and often thank me!
> Two have people remarked, that it was a great idea. I figured if
they did not love their FSJ by now, They would not have kept for very
long. It's a love/hate thing for sure!
> So if they are Driving one, chances are, they love it..
>
> Some People who drive a FSJ have said, They have never heard of
a "FSJ".. "What is a .."FSJ"? ( they get it confused with a XJ)..
or "Where can I get some Advice or parts about my wagoneer? Is a
Cherokee a FSJ?
> Not many people know much about them , What Makes , and models,
and who made what, and the Quadra trac is confusing for some, but
they love it just the same. " I have heard that statement as well.
Maybe it reminds them of a bygone era, as it always has for me when I
was small boy growing up. I saw the pictures in the all the outdoor
Magazines, of the Wagoneer, Cherokee and Grand Wagoneer, with the
Canoe on top, and the Camping gear, always ready for the open road
and adventure! It was Beautiful! The lines, the grill and real 4x4
Full time drive( at least I thought. hey I was a kid...;) I saw the
Wagoneer and it's kind, as the romantic Rugged tough Outdoors type
vehicle! I still do today, every time I look at those lines, and the
woody sides, complete with luggage rack just waiting to take me away.
It's powerful V8, always ready to take me on another adventurous
journey into the wilderness where no other humans can be found for
hundreds of miles.
> So hey ..
> Please get out there and promote the Group! Make friends with
FSJ'S!!!
> Stop, Get out and wave them to come over!!!! Say hello! say.. HI!
How are you ?!
> Start a conversation! Strangers are only friends you have not met!
>
> So get out there and DO SOMETHING about it!
>
> R.J. ( the coach) Baynum
> Head Honcho
> Huntsville Alabama (256) 881-8018
> 80 J-10 Honcho
> If you need a Flyer .. ask me..
> 1FSJ@y...
> FSJ_SE@y...
> FSJ-NW@y...
> http:www.wagoneers.com
> http://www.fsjmagazine.com
>
>
>
>
>
> From: "Lonnie & Renee' Elliott" <bikegeex@a...>
> Subject: Re: wave backs
>
> oh, yeah. There is a college girl who drives a white Waggie with
the wood
> grain painted in zebra stripes. She waves, as do all the lifted Wag
> drivers. And the Highway Patrolmen who have Waggies. In a town of
about
> 7000 people. More in Amarillo.
> Lon 81WT
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lonnie & Renee' Elliott"
>
> >> There are so many FSJs, especially Waggies here, that the waves
are
> >
> usually
>
> >> between the WT Chero crowd and the Gladiator drivers.
> >> Lon 81WT
> >
42963 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sat Feb 16, 2002 9:14pm
Subject: [FS] PARTS
Price: Take a look!
Contact: bguertin@home.com
I have a brand new grill guard/brush guard for a jeep GRAND cherokee. Bought for my 1997 but not put on so it fits similar body style. Also have tail light gaurds for same. Come look/sell for 350.00 and is black in color. Also have stock bumpers front and rear for a 98 TJ jeep wrangler with the plastic ends. DEALER PRICE is a joke, sell for 200.00/obo. Also have stock suspention parts (what was taken off to put my lift kit on) for a 1997 grand cherokee. CALL 602-909-0603
Bob Guertin
42964 From: Chris b <offroadfun@t...>
Date: Sat Feb 16, 2002 9:12pm
Subject: Jeep Evo2 Game
Hey I was just on the jeep.com site and they have a jeep 4x4 game you can download for free. its pretty cool, It has little videos that tell you how to "drive offroad". Their having a competition, whoever scores the highest can win jeep goodies. this isn't a plug for them I promise. I just thought you guys might enjoy a jeep game and a little competition..
http://www.jeep.com/adventure/home.jsp
My sucky *** score for the training 101 track is:
Final Score 34069
penalty 431
time: 11:24.59
If you report the forest fire to the rangers you get a winch.
I'll post my score from the next round, if I make it.. it has some huge boulders to climb.
42965 From: jb_wrnglr <JNB4PLS@a...>
Date: Sat Feb 16, 2002 9:39pm
Subject: Public Thanks in Order
I want to take this opportunity to thank Rick Bier yet again for a
great deal on my new shoes and also thank him for his great customer
service. If anyone is looking to buy new tires and you don't at
least talk to Rick, you are missing an opportunity.
Secondly, I want to thank Scott Kruize for his help in reinforcing my
upper control arm mount today. It had begun to elongate and was
wreaking havoc on the uunderside of my TJ. Some finely sculpted 1/4"
plate by Scott and a great welding job made it better than new. I
also want to thank Scott for painting it black and not purple <grin>.
Thanks to Theresa for a great lunch and the rest of the guys that
lent a hand, you know who you are ;-)
Best Regards,
John Butler
PS: I owe you guys
42966 From: ezrydr1 <gmaclaren@c...>
Date: Sat Feb 16, 2002 10:44pm
Subject: Invite
The Casa Grande 4 Wheelers will be running The Martinez Canyon trail
on Feb 23rd. Anyone that wants to tag along is more than welcome. You
prolly should have 31's and locked on one end. It will be the trip
leaders call, as to proper equipmment. This will be an all day run,
so come prepared. Etra parts would be good. If there is any interest,
I will post the time and meeting place. Hope to see some of you there.
42967 From: Casper <casper@c...>
Date: Sat Feb 16, 2002 10:10pm
Subject: Test
Tests
42968 From: Casper <casper@c...>
Date: Sat Feb 16, 2002 10:48pm
Subject: Test
Test
42969 From: steverino1112000 <steverino1112000@y...>
Date: Sat Feb 16, 2002 10:55pm
Subject: Re: Invite
Ther is already a run for Martinez on the 23rd. You may want to post
at different times. I went up there last week and got behind some
other group and it took quite a while to get through. It is a great
trail but with too many vehicles it can take the fun out of it. Have
a good trip.
Nick
--- In az_vjc@y..., "ezrydr1" <gmaclaren@c...> wrote:
> The Casa Grande 4 Wheelers will be running The Martinez Canyon
trail
> on Feb 23rd. Anyone that wants to tag along is more than welcome.
You
> prolly should have 31's and locked on one end. It will be the trip
> leaders call, as to proper equipmment. This will be an all day run,
> so come prepared. Etra parts would be good. If there is any
interest,
> I will post the time and meeting place. Hope to see some of you
there.
42970 From: Tom LaFrance <tlafrance@j...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 6:06am
Subject: [FS] YJ Hardtop
FYI, a guy had one at a yard sale yesterday. It was black, in like new
condition and he only wanted $400.00 for it. He sold his Jeep without
it. Call him directly, his name is Shawn 480-807-5073. He lives on
Higley and Southern.
Tom LaFrance
------------------------------------------------------------
"I don't need 4wd, the guy in front of me has it"
42971 From: jetowle2000 <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 6:19am
Subject: Re: possible ox shifter mount idea
I don't like the way the cable runs across the rear floor. That would
get in the way of any person or animal riding in the back seat.
One thing I don't get about the picture is why he needs OX lockers
when he has ARB's. Can you install both? :)
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., "paparoach85251" <lespaparoach@m...> wrote:
> I recently came across this idea for mounting my ox shifters after
a
> post on JU. Take a look at this link where a guy mounted his rear
ox
> shifter in his cup holder with the use of a home made plate. I am
> considering mounting mine in the two cup holders in my TJ console
> using a similar but longer plate. Who needs cup holders anyway?
>
> LINK: http://www.4wdlinks.com/tech/ox_locker_shift_plate.htm
>
> What do you guys think?
>
> Les
42972 From: Rollie kent <jeeprkl@h...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 6:58am
Subject: taigate 96 Grand
I need a tailgate for my 96 Grand. My wife found a tellephone pole. I would like to replace it may self. Anyone know where I might get one---new or used???
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42973 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 7:37am
Subject: [FS] Need the tele # for Brian at Trail Werkz or Jeep Werkz
Price:
Contact: sshellenberger@hotmail.com
I am looking for the number to Brian at Trail Werkz or Jeep Werkz (I can't remember the name). Please help. sshellenberger@hotmail.com
42974 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 7:54am
Subject: Re: Re: possible ox shifter mount idea
Nope, he has an ARB in the front and an Ox in the back. If you look at
the text, it says that the two front switches are for front ARB and the
ARB compressor.
Chris
On Sunday, February 17, 2002, at 07:19 AM, jetowle2000 wrote:
>
> I don't like the way the cable runs across the rear floor. That would
> get in the way of any person or animal riding in the back seat.
> One thing I don't get about the picture is why he needs OX lockers
> when he has ARB's. Can you install both? :)
>
> --James
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "paparoach85251" <lespaparoach@m...> wrote:
>> I recently came across this idea for mounting my ox shifters after
> a
>> post on JU. Take a look at this link where a guy mounted his rear
> ox
>> shifter in his cup holder with the use of a home made plate. I am
>> considering mounting mine in the two cup holders in my TJ console
>> using a similar but longer plate. Who needs cup holders anyway?
>>
>> LINK: http://www.4wdlinks.com/tech/ox_locker_shift_plate.htm
>>
>> What do you guys think?
>>
>> Les
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
42975 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 8:24am
Subject: RE: [FS] Need the tele # for Brian at Trail Werkz or Jeep Werkz
Arizona Trailwerks
3100 NW Grand Ave.
Phoenix, AZ 85017
(view map)
(800) 254-1922 toll free
(602) 254-1551 within Arizona
(602) 254-0129 fax
trailwerks@aol.com
-----Original Message-----
From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@azvjc.org]
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 3:37 PM
To: AzVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] [FS] Need the tele # for Brian at Trail Werkz or Jeep Werkz
Price:
Contact: sshellenberger@hotmail.com
I am looking for the number to Brian at Trail Werkz or Jeep Werkz (I can't remember the name). Please help. sshellenberger@hotmail.com
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
42976 From: soulsurvivor62 <soulsurvivor62@y...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 8:43am
Subject: FS: Stock TJ 15X8 Aluminum rims
15x8" Aluminum rims, 5 X 4.25", stock TJ, I have 4 for sale. Good
cond, a few minor rock scrapes. $65 OBO. Gary 602-686-0656
42977 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 9:09am
Subject: TJ D44 vs. D35c
I thought this was interesting http://home.att.net/~email.id/Dana.jpg .
So minus the c-clips and bigger axle shafts, the D44 is really a D35c for a
TJ. Sounds like the Super 35 kit would be the best upgrade for D35c owners
other than going to D60's.
--James
You can read where the measurements were taken from at:
http://forums.jeepsunlimited.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/003226.html
42978 From: Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 9:15am
Subject: RE: Jeep Evo2 Game
I have EVO2 for my XBOX. Whenever other Jeepers come over it seems to be a favorite. I even have a career Wrangler I've been building up called "Daddy Longlegs"
hehe
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris b [mailto:offroadfun@thejeepfiles.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 10:13 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Jeep Evo2 Game
Hey I was just on the jeep.com site and they have a jeep 4x4 game you can download for free. its pretty cool, It has little videos that tell you how to "drive offroad". Their having a competition, whoever scores the highest can win jeep goodies. this isn't a plug for them I promise. I just thought you guys might enjoy a jeep game and a little competition..
http://www.jeep.com/adventure/home.jsp
My sucky *** score for the training 101 track is:
Final Score 34069
penalty 431
time: 11:24.59
If you report the forest fire to the rangers you get a winch.
I'll post my score from the next round, if I make it.. it has some huge boulders to climb.
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
42979 From: ezrydr1 <gmaclaren@c...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 9:15am
Subject: RE: Invite
Hah, mabe we will get there first.
42980 From: Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 9:19am
Subject: RE: TJ D44 vs. D35c
I beg to differ. The Dana 44 also has a much stronger ring and pinion,
larger carrier, & bigger brakes, as well as the stronger axleshafts and no
c-clip that you mentioned.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: James Towle [mailto:James.Towle@a...]
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 10:09 AM
To: AZ_VJC
Subject: [az_vjc] TJ D44 vs. D35c
I thought this was interesting http://home.att.net/~email.id/Dana.jpg .
So minus the c-clips and bigger axle shafts, the D44 is really a D35c for a
TJ. Sounds like the Super 35 kit would be the best upgrade for D35c owners
other than going to D60's.
--James
You can read where the measurements were taken from at:
http://forums.jeepsunlimited.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/003226.html
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
42981 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 9:27am
Subject: RE: TJ D44 vs. D35c
James,
Don't forget the difference in ring gear size and pinion size...
The only thing that the chart shows is that AXLE TUBE dimensions are the
same between the D35C and the D44.
EVERYTHING else on the D44 is larger and stronger than the D35 (except for
brakes).
The D44 will always be the better choice than the D35C.
A D44 will always be a better choice than a D35C with a Super 35 kit.
You're conclusion that the Super 35 Kit is a good option for those who have
a D35C is correct, but your logic behind your conclusion is somewhat flawed.
If you have a choice when picking out your Jeep... choose a D44.
If you are unfortunate enough to be stuck with a D35C; upgrade to a Super 35
when you can; I still have yet to hear of someone breaking one.
Kind Regards,
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Towle [mailto:James.Towle@a...]
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 10:09 AM
> To: AZ_VJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] TJ D44 vs. D35c
>
>
>
> I thought this was interesting
> http://home.att.net/~email.id/Dana.jpg .
>
> So minus the c-clips and bigger axle shafts, the D44 is
> really a D35c for a
> TJ. Sounds like the Super 35 kit would be the best upgrade
> for D35c owners
> other than going to D60's.
>
> --James
>
> You can read where the measurements were taken from at:
> http://forums.jeepsunlimited.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/003226.html
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
42982 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 9:29am
Subject: Re: TJ D44 vs. D35c
Higher spline count...which goes with larger axles. And as Scott said, a
bigger and stronger r&p. The only thing the TJ D44 has in common w/ the D35c
is the axle tubes.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Kruize" <scottkruize@e...>
To: "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...>; "AZ_VJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 10:19 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] TJ D44 vs. D35c
> I beg to differ. The Dana 44 also has a much stronger ring and pinion,
> larger carrier, & bigger brakes, as well as the stronger axleshafts and no
> c-clip that you mentioned.
>
> Scott K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Towle [mailto:James.Towle@a...]
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 10:09 AM
> To: AZ_VJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] TJ D44 vs. D35c
>
>
>
> I thought this was interesting http://home.att.net/~email.id/Dana.jpg .
>
> So minus the c-clips and bigger axle shafts, the D44 is really a D35c for
a
> TJ. Sounds like the Super 35 kit would be the best upgrade for D35c owners
> other than going to D60's.
>
> --James
>
> You can read where the measurements were taken from at:
> http://forums.jeepsunlimited.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/003226.html
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
42983 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 9:32am
Subject: RE: TJ D44 vs. D35c
Dang Scott... you beat me to it!
<grin>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Kruize [mailto:scottkruize@e...]
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 10:20 AM
> To: James Towle; AZ_VJC
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] TJ D44 vs. D35c
>
>
> I beg to differ. The Dana 44 also has a much stronger ring and pinion,
> larger carrier, & bigger brakes, as well as the stronger
> axleshafts and no
> c-clip that you mentioned.
>
> Scott K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Towle [mailto:James.Towle@a...]
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 10:09 AM
> To: AZ_VJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] TJ D44 vs. D35c
>
>
>
> I thought this was interesting
> http://home.att.net/~email.id/Dana.jpg .
>
> So minus the c-clips and bigger axle shafts, the D44 is
> really a D35c for a
> TJ. Sounds like the Super 35 kit would be the best upgrade
> for D35c owners
> other than going to D60's.
>
> --James
>
> You can read where the measurements were taken from at:
> http://forums.jeepsunlimited.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/003226.html
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
42984 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 9:50am
Subject: RE: TJ D44 vs. D35c
Okay the ring & pinion but, over the last year I have been on this board and
others I have yet to hear someone say, their ring & pinion broke or their
carrier. Let me qualify that by saying, from wheeling. I have seen some
where somebody did a crappy install at one time or another. I could have
missed a few posts here and there. As for the brakes, if you are wanting
better brakes you would go with disc no bigger drums.
Joe is correct, if you were buying a new Jeep there is no reason not to get
the D44. But, if you have a D35 there is no reason to upgrade to a TJ D44.
It just doesn't make sense.
--James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@c...]
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 10:30 AM
> To: James Towle; AZ_VJC; Scott Kruize
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] TJ D44 vs. D35c
>
>
> Higher spline count...which goes with larger axles. And as Scott said, a
> bigger and stronger r&p. The only thing the TJ D44 has in common
> w/ the D35c
> is the axle tubes.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Kruize" <scottkruize@e...>
> To: "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...>; "AZ_VJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 10:19 AM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] TJ D44 vs. D35c
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> > I beg to differ. The Dana 44 also has a much stronger ring and pinion,
> > larger carrier, & bigger brakes, as well as the stronger
> axleshafts and no
> > c-clip that you mentioned.
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> > Scott K
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Towle [mailto:James.Towle@a...]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 10:09 AM
> > To: AZ_VJC
> > Subject: [az_vjc] TJ D44 vs. D35c
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> > I thought this was interesting http://home.att.net/~email.id/Dana.jpg .
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> > So minus the c-clips and bigger axle shafts, the D44 is really
> a D35c for
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> > TJ. Sounds like the Super 35 kit would be the best upgrade for
> D35c owners
> > other than going to D60's.
> >
> > --James
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> > You can read where the measurements were taken from at:
> > http://forums.jeepsunlimited.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/003226.html
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