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42735-42759
42735 From: chrisboettge <cheesit@h...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 0:41pm
Subject: Ford 8.8
Scott Kruise and I decided to hit a couple of junkyards in search of
Ford 8.8 Disk Brake Rear off a Ford Explorer. We happened to come
along a 98 Explorer with a limited slip and 3.73 Gears. The real
score was the price $98.00 !!!!. I have just had the rotors turned
and need to start figuring out the cost and labor involved in
getting it to work with my 4cyl TJ. The place we got it from was
Arizona Auto Pull-N-Save. the number is (602) 353-1826. I noticed
they had some others that were the drum brake kind. If anybody is
interested. By the way -Thanks Scott for helping me pull a axle with
hand tools and doing it under an hour flat with no jack........ :)
Chris
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42736 From: g_rob_williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 0:50pm
Subject: Re: Pitre in Scottsdale
Checker charged me $12 to turn two front rotors, pads were $35 if
you actually NEED them, and it took me 20 minutes to pull both
rotors, 1 hour turning them at checker (busy weekend so I dropped
them off) and then another 20 to put them on. -Rob
42737 From: tjsr4r0cks <dkober@g...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 0:52pm
Subject: Re: interesting
I came across one of their training runs 3 weeks ago on a trail
around the Mt. Ord area. Stopped and chatted with the instructor and
his class. Instructor was in a Range Rover, the class had various
non descript SUV type things. I think I detected some Jeep envy ;)
Dave
99 TJ
--- In az_vjc@y..., "pebble007" <jawooten@h...> wrote:
> Hello all,
> I neither endorse or not endorse the following link (a
> little flame retardant material), but thought I would throw it out
> there just to see the reaction.
> http://www.viatierra.com/vt/
> have fun
> Josh
> 99 TJ -HOMER-
42738 From: pebble007 <jawooten@h...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 0:59pm
Subject: Re: interesting
I think it's great that someone has found a way to make a living
doing something they enjoy, I just hope that the responsibilty is
there and there just not out to make a buck.
Josh
--- In az_vjc@y..., "tjsr4r0cks" <dkober@g...> wrote:
> I came across one of their training runs 3 weeks ago on a trail
> around the Mt. Ord area. Stopped and chatted with the instructor
and
> his class. Instructor was in a Range Rover, the class had various
> non descript SUV type things. I think I detected some Jeep envy ;)
>
> Dave
> 99 TJ
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "pebble007" <jawooten@h...> wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > I neither endorse or not endorse the following link (a
> > little flame retardant material), but thought I would throw it
out
> > there just to see the reaction.
> > http://www.viatierra.com/vt/
> > have fun
> > Josh
> > 99 TJ -HOMER-
42739 From: this_chix_tj <this_chix_tj@y...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 1:13pm
Subject: an easy first run?
Hello, I'm new to the group, and I'd like to do a fairly easy first
tun this weekend. I've only done one trail up till now, and that was
under the very watchful eyes of someone with a vested interest in my
Jeep. I'm on my own now, and I'd like to start with something easy.
I'm not quite stock, but I'm not ready to do something like H2H,
either. Any help would be greatly appreciated...I'm also interested
in learning maintenance stuff, and I'm located in the NW valley, if
there's anyone in that area willing to teach me. Thanks!
42740 From: David R. W. Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 1:26pm
Subject: RE: an easy first run?
Well if that fr-42 run does happen, you should go on that one. It's a
good soft run.
David
-----Original Message-----
From: this_chix_tj [mailto:this_chix_tj@y...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 2:14 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] an easy first run?
Hello, I'm new to the group, and I'd like to do a fairly easy first tun
this weekend. I've only done one trail up till now, and that was under
the very watchful eyes of someone with a vested interest in my Jeep.
I'm on my own now, and I'd like to start with something easy. I'm not
quite stock, but I'm not ready to do something like H2H, either. Any
help would be greatly appreciated...I'm also interested in learning
maintenance stuff, and I'm located in the NW valley, if there's anyone
in that area willing to teach me. Thanks!
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42741 From: Joey Martinez <joey@w...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 1:24pm
Subject: various last posts
1. awards, i think its a very good idea, ( holding thumbs up)
2. like dave said good idea just don't abuse it
3. esy first run welcome aboard! ( again holding thumbs up)
4. now for mine, does anyone know how much it would cost to make one of these, materials, labor, i read a post a while back and some one said all i have to do is buy the materials and possibly brew, to make one, i forgot his name but if anyone has any input it would be mucho appreciated. Sorry the gutter/mount pic is so big.
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42742 From: tjsr4r0cks <dkober@g...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 1:28pm
Subject: Re: an easy first run?
You may want to try the Coves at Saguaro Lake run on Sat. Mainly
sandy washes and dirt hills that vary in difficulty.
Dave
99 TJ
--- In az_vjc@y..., "this_chix_tj" <this_chix_tj@y...> wrote:
> Hello, I'm new to the group, and I'd like to do a fairly easy first
> tun this weekend. I've only done one trail up till now, and that
was
> under the very watchful eyes of someone with a vested interest in
my
> Jeep. I'm on my own now, and I'd like to start with something
easy.
> I'm not quite stock, but I'm not ready to do something like H2H,
> either. Any help would be greatly appreciated...I'm also
interested
> in learning maintenance stuff, and I'm located in the NW valley, if
> there's anyone in that area willing to teach me. Thanks!
42743 From: Rick <ricknhall@c...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 1:44pm
Subject: Re: an easy first run?
Try the Coves run Saturday if enough people sign up. It's not really a trail more of a play area and a good place to try your skills on various obstacles. Not much in the way of rock crawling but plenty of hill climbs, sand and off-camber stuff.
Rick
>
> From: "this_chix_tj" <this_chix_tj@y...>
> Date: 2002/02/13 Wed PM 04:13:52 EST
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] an easy first run?
>
> Hello, I'm new to the group, and I'd like to do a fairly easy first
> tun this weekend. I've only done one trail up till now, and that was
> under the very watchful eyes of someone with a vested interest in my
> Jeep. I'm on my own now, and I'd like to start with something easy.
> I'm not quite stock, but I'm not ready to do something like H2H,
> either. Any help would be greatly appreciated...I'm also interested
> in learning maintenance stuff, and I'm located in the NW valley, if
> there's anyone in that area willing to teach me. Thanks!
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
42744 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 6:37am
Subject: RE: Re: Ford 9"
I knew that. I do not consider that much of a weakness when you compare it
to a D44 it is still bigger. The other weakness and the thing that makes the
Ford 9" so strong is you loose the third pinion bearing on the HP. Again in
a Jeep that weighs only 4Klbs I do not see that as a big weakness. I am not
running an engine that pushes 500hp either. I am only putting out about
250hp.
-----Original Message-----
From: monosyllabicguy78 [mailto:monosyllabicguy@w...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:46 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Ford 9"
Randy,
ive been to currie a couple times with questions about their hp 9".
they told me they dont use the 9" gears in them. they use the 8.8" gears.
this is the only weakness i know of. Joey
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Siade, Randy" <randy.siade@u...> wrote:
> Tell me more about this. I have not heard anything about the Currie HP 9"
> breaking. Can you point me to some articles about it? Thanks
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Craig M. [mailto:micekc@e...]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:04 AM
> To: joew@a...; Siade, Randy; 'azvjc'; 'azdd'; 'Todd Zuercher'
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Ford 9"
>
>
> Randy,
>
> I would think you would be asking for trouble upgrading to the hp 9" with
> your motor. You are weakening the unit going with the hp. Even the
Curries
> switched to a hp 60 when they kept breaking the hp 9".
>
> Food for thought!
>
> Craig
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe West" <joew@a...>
> To: "'Siade, Randy'" <randy.siade@u...>; "'azvjc'"
> <az_vjc@y...>; "'azdd'" <azdd@y...>; "'Todd Zuercher'"
> <p26195@e...>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 10:43 AM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Ford 9"
>
>
> > 488:1 axle ratio?
> >
> > That would make your crawl ratio what, around 9,874:1???
> >
> > <grin>
> >
> >
> > No wonder your rig was featured in an offroad magazine!!!
> >
> > Joe West
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Siade, Randy [mailto:randy.siade@u...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 10:18 AM
> > > To: 'azvjc'; 'azdd'; 'Todd Zuercher'
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Ford 9"
> > >
> > >
> > > I am thinking about going to the Currie high pinion 9" third
> > > member in my
> > > Jeep. With this in mind I will have a third member for sale.
> > > I have seen
> > > them advertised setup with Detroit locker upwards of $900.
> > > The following is
> > > what I have invested in mine.
> > >
> > > Detroit locker $450
> > > 488:1 R&P $200
> > > Install kit $100
> > > Thrid Member $100
> > >
> > > Total investment $850
> > >
> > > This rearend is set up and ready to go. I would part with it for $700.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Randy Siade
> > > Engineering Manager
> > > Unisys Unigen Operations
> > > 6161 W. Erie Street
> > > Chandler, AZ 85226
> > > Phone 480 783-5911
> > > Fax 480 783-5960
> > > Cell 602-329-0699
> > > randy.siade@u...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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42745 From: wishmaaker <wishmaaker@y...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 1:56pm
Subject: steel guards for the rear quarter panels
anyone know where I can order the diamond plate steel guards for the
rear quarter panels of my 98 tj
42746 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 2:06pm
Subject: Got my D300 - Thanks AZ Trailwerks
I must say a big thanks to Brian at Arizona Trailwerks. He traded me my old
(non-teralow, non SYE) NP231 for the Dana 300 transfer case I was looking
for. This makes my D300 flip project that much less expensive and easier for
me.
Chris K
42747 From: David Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 2:18pm
Subject: Trail run ideas for Sunday, maybe Saturday.
I was looking at the 3.5+ trails and am considering the following:
Jack Handle
Orville's Loop
Sycamore Creek
Tax Collector
Interest will determine what trail and day.
P.S. Hopefully this will work better, rather than me posting on Friday night
David R. W. Withers
Desk: 480.551.4667
Mobile: 480.215.6992
42748 From: Joe West <joew@a...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 2:25pm
Subject: RE: steel guards for the rear quarter panels
http://www.4x4now.com/4wsbioy.htm
Dan is a GREAT guy to deal with. Tell him Joe West sent you.
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wishmaaker [mailto:wishmaaker@y...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 2:57 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] steel guards for the rear quarter panels
>
>
> anyone know where I can order the diamond plate steel guards for the
> rear quarter panels of my 98 tj
>
>
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42749 From: David R. W. Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 2:32pm
Subject: RE: steel guards for the rear quarter panels
Any idea on the price Joe?
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe West [mailto:joew@a...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:25 PM
To: 'wishmaaker'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] steel guards for the rear quarter panels
http://www.4x4now.com/4wsbioy.htm
Dan is a GREAT guy to deal with. Tell him Joe West sent you.
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wishmaaker [mailto:wishmaaker@y...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 2:57 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] steel guards for the rear quarter panels
>
>
> anyone know where I can order the diamond plate steel guards for the
> rear quarter panels of my 98 tj
>
>
>
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42750 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 2:29pm
Subject: Re: steel guards for the rear quarter panels
Gotta second this. The OYR corners are very strong.
Chris K
> From: "Joe West" <joew@a...>
> Reply-To: <joew@a...>
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 15:25:02 -0700
> To: "'wishmaaker'" <wishmaaker@y...>, <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] steel guards for the rear quarter panels
>
> http://www.4x4now.com/4wsbioy.htm
>
> Dan is a GREAT guy to deal with. Tell him Joe West sent you.
>
> Joe
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wishmaaker [mailto:wishmaaker@y...]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 2:57 PM
>> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [az_vjc] steel guards for the rear quarter panels
>>
>>
>> anyone know where I can order the diamond plate steel guards for the
>> rear quarter panels of my 98 tj
>>
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42751 From: Mike <h8pvmnt@h...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 2:53pm
Subject: Fw: Rock Crawl Cancelled?
This is the reply I got from Sandee M. of ASA Four Wheel Drive Clubs. To bad I was looking forward to spectating.
Mike Wixom
85 CJ-7
----- Original Message -----
From: Sandee McCullen
To: Mike
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:08 PM
Subject: RE: Rock Crawl Cancelled?
Boy, the grapevine is FAST............... yes, the event as a "competition" has been cancelled due to BLM mucking around getting the permit approved and putting "stipulations" in place that were above the line etc etc. Part of the reason was we did not receive the support from our local rock crawlers to make this event a spectacular event.
The Arizona Rock Crawlers are planning a campout this weekend and will be doing "rock crawling" for fun and exhibition.......... EVERYONE is invited to join in.
Sandee
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike [mailto:h8pvmnt@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 9:30 AM
To: Sandee McCullen
Subject: Rock Crawl Cancelled?
Sandee,
I just got an e-mail saying the rock crawl had been cancelled is this true?
Mike Wixom
85 CJ-7
42752 From: Joe West <joew@a...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 2:32pm
Subject: RE: steel guards for the rear quarter panels
Just click on the link I sent for current pricing.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David R. W. Withers [mailto:dr_ww@h...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:33 PM
> To: joew@a...; 'wishmaaker'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] steel guards for the rear quarter panels
>
>
> Any idea on the price Joe?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe West [mailto:joew@a...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:25 PM
> To: 'wishmaaker'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] steel guards for the rear quarter panels
>
>
> http://www.4x4now.com/4wsbioy.htm
>
> Dan is a GREAT guy to deal with. Tell him Joe West sent you.
>
> Joe
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wishmaaker [mailto:wishmaaker@y...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 2:57 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] steel guards for the rear quarter panels
> >
> >
> > anyone know where I can order the diamond plate steel
> guards for the
> > rear quarter panels of my 98 tj
> >
> >
> >
> >
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42753 From: Joe West <joew@a...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 2:40pm
Subject: RE: steel guards for the rear quarter panels
Sorry Dave,
Dan had pricing on his page at one time... I didn't notice that he had taken
it off.
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David R. W. Withers [mailto:dr_ww@h...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:41 PM
> To: joew@a...
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] steel guards for the rear quarter panels
>
>
> Funny Joe, there is no pricing. I'll just send the guy an e-mail.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe West [mailto:joew@a...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:33 PM
> To: 'David R. W. Withers'; 'wishmaaker'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] steel guards for the rear quarter panels
>
>
> Just click on the link I sent for current pricing.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David R. W. Withers [mailto:dr_ww@h...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:33 PM
> > To: joew@a...; 'wishmaaker'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] steel guards for the rear quarter panels
> >
> >
> > Any idea on the price Joe?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe West [mailto:joew@a...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:25 PM
> > To: 'wishmaaker'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] steel guards for the rear quarter panels
> >
> >
> > http://www.4x4now.com/4wsbioy.htm
> >
> > Dan is a GREAT guy to deal with. Tell him Joe West sent you.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: wishmaaker [mailto:wishmaaker@y...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 2:57 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] steel guards for the rear quarter panels
> > >
> > >
> > > anyone know where I can order the diamond plate steel
> > guards for the
> > > rear quarter panels of my 98 tj
> > >
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42754 From: Mike & Karen Acuna <macunasprint@e...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 3:08pm
Subject: Re: Pitre in Scottsdale
I bought 2 new front rotors and a set of Performance Friction carbon metallic brake pads from Autozone for $80.
Mike
Roger Tomas wrote:
> My guess is they want to replace the brake pads in addition to turning the
> rotors. But you could still get your rotors turned and get new brake pads
> and install them yourself for a lot less than $120.
>
> -Roger
>
> > Ruben Aviles wrote:
> >
> > I just took my TJ in to find out what the hell the vibration was on my brakes. I asked the group about it and whoever said it was a warped rotor was right. Get this, They
> > wanted $120 to have them turned. Doesn't Auto Zone do them for like $15 or something like that? If anyone knows of a good place to get them turned let me know.
>
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42755 From: dthorton_2000 <dt_horton@h...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 3:11pm
Subject: Re: steel guards for the rear quarter panels
$214 including shipping!
http://www.jeepersandcreepers.com/gear/pages/
offyourrockers_jpg.htm
They have a good reputation on the Jeepsunlimited forums.
HTH,
Dan
--- In az_vjc@y..., "wishmaaker" <wishmaaker@y...> wrote:
> anyone know where I can order the diamond plate steel
guards for the
> rear quarter panels of my 98 tj
42756 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 3:21pm
Subject: OR Fab website update
FYI
I was talking to Mark at OR Fab today. It seems their website got hijacked.
Their old domain registration expired and someone squatted on it. The new
website will be http://www.orfab.com. It should be up again starting
tomorrow.
Chris
42757 From: paparoach85251 <lespaparoach@m...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 3:25pm
Subject: Re: steel guards for the rear quarter panels
I can second that. James at jeepersandcreepers.com is a great guy. He
tries to give you the lowest price on everything that he sells and
always includes shipping.
Les
--- In az_vjc@y..., "dthorton_2000" <dt_horton@h...> wrote:
> $214 including shipping!
>
> http://www.jeepersandcreepers.com/gear/pages/
> offyourrockers_jpg.htm
>
> They have a good reputation on the Jeepsunlimited forums.
>
> HTH,
> Dan
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "wishmaaker" <wishmaaker@y...> wrote:
> > anyone know where I can order the diamond plate steel
> guards for the
> > rear quarter panels of my 98 tj
42758 From: <tandljacobson@a...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 10:39am
Subject: Re: New trail idea..
Been wanting to do something along the same lines with my wife, but I can never get her comfortable enough to drive. I'm sure their are JeepChix out there with husbands who can't drive, too.
Another trail, easy but more interesting than a dirt road, is Bulldog Canyon.
We could call this the "Spousal Abuse Run", for what our Jeeps may have to put up with from the new drivers!
Tom
Message: 1
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 13:26:53 -0700
From: "Chris b" <offroadfun@t...>
Subject: New trail idea..
Hello,
So here's my new idea, but I want your feedback before I post this as an
official run. We travel on camp creek road rated difficulty 1 then take
bloody basin road difficulty 2 back to the I-17 freeway. its 52 miles of dirt
road. I know your thinking that its way too easy, but the catch is.. we let
our wives, and girlfriends do the driving. that's right guys, we kick it in
the passanger seat and try really hard no to help them drive.. I know that
camp creek road has a large hill that you have to climb but the road is
smooth for the most part. the bloody basin trail I have not been on so I
don't really know. I can go scout the area before hand if needed. let me know
your thoughts. the difficulty scale I'm using is based on 1-10 points. if you
have the Arizona backroad adventures book, its trails #27 and #30. they rated
table mesa road a 5 and the ck backroad is rated a 6. so a 1 and 2 is total
cake.
- chris
42759 From: msa12171 <msa12171@a...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 4:10pm
Subject: Re: steel guards for the rear quarter panels
I agree 100%, you can 't go wrong with Dan. He is great and his
products are unmatched. One side has covered up some bad body damage
and the other side just protected me from some more bad damage. I
got mine with the holes cut for flush tail lamps and smooth so I
could paint them to match my Jeep. Most people don't even know that
they are there. The best prices products AND service. You won't be
disappointed.
Mike Anderson
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joew@a...> wrote:
> http://www.4x4now.com/4wsbioy.htm
>
> Dan is a GREAT guy to deal with. Tell him Joe West sent you.
>
> Joe
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wishmaaker [mailto:wishmaaker@y...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 2:57 PM
> > To: az_vjc@y...
> > Subject: [az_vjc] steel guards for the rear quarter panels
> >
> >
> > anyone know where I can order the diamond plate steel guards for
the
> > rear quarter panels of my 98 tj
> >
> >
> >
> >
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42735 From: chrisboettge <cheesit@h...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 0:41pm
Subject: Ford 8.8
Scott Kruise and I decided to hit a couple of junkyards in search of
Ford 8.8 Disk Brake Rear off a Ford Explorer. We happened to come
along a 98 Explorer with a limited slip and 3.73 Gears. The real
score was the price $98.00 !!!!. I have just had the rotors turned
and need to start figuring out the cost and labor involved in
getting it to work with my 4cyl TJ. The place we got it from was
Arizona Auto Pull-N-Save. the number is (602) 353-1826. I noticed
they had some others that were the drum brake kind. If anybody is
interested. By the way -Thanks Scott for helping me pull a axle with
hand tools and doing it under an hour flat with no jack........ :)
Chris
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42736 From: g_rob_williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 0:50pm
Subject: Re: Pitre in Scottsdale
Checker charged me $12 to turn two front rotors, pads were $35 if
you actually NEED them, and it took me 20 minutes to pull both
rotors, 1 hour turning them at checker (busy weekend so I dropped
them off) and then another 20 to put them on. -Rob
42737 From: tjsr4r0cks <dkober@g...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 0:52pm
Subject: Re: interesting
I came across one of their training runs 3 weeks ago on a trail
around the Mt. Ord area. Stopped and chatted with the instructor and
his class. Instructor was in a Range Rover, the class had various
non descript SUV type things. I think I detected some Jeep envy ;)
Dave
99 TJ
--- In az_vjc@y..., "pebble007" <jawooten@h...> wrote:
> Hello all,
> I neither endorse or not endorse the following link (a
> little flame retardant material), but thought I would throw it out
> there just to see the reaction.
> http://www.viatierra.com/vt/
> have fun
> Josh
> 99 TJ -HOMER-
42738 From: pebble007 <jawooten@h...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 0:59pm
Subject: Re: interesting
I think it's great that someone has found a way to make a living
doing something they enjoy, I just hope that the responsibilty is
there and there just not out to make a buck.
Josh
--- In az_vjc@y..., "tjsr4r0cks" <dkober@g...> wrote:
> I came across one of their training runs 3 weeks ago on a trail
> around the Mt. Ord area. Stopped and chatted with the instructor
and
> his class. Instructor was in a Range Rover, the class had various
> non descript SUV type things. I think I detected some Jeep envy ;)
>
> Dave
> 99 TJ
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "pebble007" <jawooten@h...> wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > I neither endorse or not endorse the following link (a
> > little flame retardant material), but thought I would throw it
out
> > there just to see the reaction.
> > http://www.viatierra.com/vt/
> > have fun
> > Josh
> > 99 TJ -HOMER-
42739 From: this_chix_tj <this_chix_tj@y...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 1:13pm
Subject: an easy first run?
Hello, I'm new to the group, and I'd like to do a fairly easy first
tun this weekend. I've only done one trail up till now, and that was
under the very watchful eyes of someone with a vested interest in my
Jeep. I'm on my own now, and I'd like to start with something easy.
I'm not quite stock, but I'm not ready to do something like H2H,
either. Any help would be greatly appreciated...I'm also interested
in learning maintenance stuff, and I'm located in the NW valley, if
there's anyone in that area willing to teach me. Thanks!
42740 From: David R. W. Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 1:26pm
Subject: RE: an easy first run?
Well if that fr-42 run does happen, you should go on that one. It's a
good soft run.
David
-----Original Message-----
From: this_chix_tj [mailto:this_chix_tj@y...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 2:14 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] an easy first run?
Hello, I'm new to the group, and I'd like to do a fairly easy first tun
this weekend. I've only done one trail up till now, and that was under
the very watchful eyes of someone with a vested interest in my Jeep.
I'm on my own now, and I'd like to start with something easy. I'm not
quite stock, but I'm not ready to do something like H2H, either. Any
help would be greatly appreciated...I'm also interested in learning
maintenance stuff, and I'm located in the NW valley, if there's anyone
in that area willing to teach me. Thanks!
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42741 From: Joey Martinez <joey@w...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 1:24pm
Subject: various last posts
1. awards, i think its a very good idea, ( holding thumbs up)
2. like dave said good idea just don't abuse it
3. esy first run welcome aboard! ( again holding thumbs up)
4. now for mine, does anyone know how much it would cost to make one of these, materials, labor, i read a post a while back and some one said all i have to do is buy the materials and possibly brew, to make one, i forgot his name but if anyone has any input it would be mucho appreciated. Sorry the gutter/mount pic is so big.
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42742 From: tjsr4r0cks <dkober@g...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 1:28pm
Subject: Re: an easy first run?
You may want to try the Coves at Saguaro Lake run on Sat. Mainly
sandy washes and dirt hills that vary in difficulty.
Dave
99 TJ
--- In az_vjc@y..., "this_chix_tj" <this_chix_tj@y...> wrote:
> Hello, I'm new to the group, and I'd like to do a fairly easy first
> tun this weekend. I've only done one trail up till now, and that
was
> under the very watchful eyes of someone with a vested interest in
my
> Jeep. I'm on my own now, and I'd like to start with something
easy.
> I'm not quite stock, but I'm not ready to do something like H2H,
> either. Any help would be greatly appreciated...I'm also
interested
> in learning maintenance stuff, and I'm located in the NW valley, if
> there's anyone in that area willing to teach me. Thanks!
42743 From: Rick <ricknhall@c...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 1:44pm
Subject: Re: an easy first run?
Try the Coves run Saturday if enough people sign up. It's not really a trail more of a play area and a good place to try your skills on various obstacles. Not much in the way of rock crawling but plenty of hill climbs, sand and off-camber stuff.
Rick
>
> From: "this_chix_tj" <this_chix_tj@y...>
> Date: 2002/02/13 Wed PM 04:13:52 EST
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] an easy first run?
>
> Hello, I'm new to the group, and I'd like to do a fairly easy first
> tun this weekend. I've only done one trail up till now, and that was
> under the very watchful eyes of someone with a vested interest in my
> Jeep. I'm on my own now, and I'd like to start with something easy.
> I'm not quite stock, but I'm not ready to do something like H2H,
> either. Any help would be greatly appreciated...I'm also interested
> in learning maintenance stuff, and I'm located in the NW valley, if
> there's anyone in that area willing to teach me. Thanks!
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
42744 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 6:37am
Subject: RE: Re: Ford 9"
I knew that. I do not consider that much of a weakness when you compare it
to a D44 it is still bigger. The other weakness and the thing that makes the
Ford 9" so strong is you loose the third pinion bearing on the HP. Again in
a Jeep that weighs only 4Klbs I do not see that as a big weakness. I am not
running an engine that pushes 500hp either. I am only putting out about
250hp.
-----Original Message-----
From: monosyllabicguy78 [mailto:monosyllabicguy@w...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:46 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Ford 9"
Randy,
ive been to currie a couple times with questions about their hp 9".
they told me they dont use the 9" gears in them. they use the 8.8" gears.
this is the only weakness i know of. Joey
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Siade, Randy" <randy.siade@u...> wrote:
> Tell me more about this. I have not heard anything about the Currie HP 9"
> breaking. Can you point me to some articles about it? Thanks
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Craig M. [mailto:micekc@e...]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:04 AM
> To: joew@a...; Siade, Randy; 'azvjc'; 'azdd'; 'Todd Zuercher'
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Ford 9"
>
>
> Randy,
>
> I would think you would be asking for trouble upgrading to the hp 9" with
> your motor. You are weakening the unit going with the hp. Even the
Curries
> switched to a hp 60 when they kept breaking the hp 9".
>
> Food for thought!
>
> Craig
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe West" <joew@a...>
> To: "'Siade, Randy'" <randy.siade@u...>; "'azvjc'"
> <az_vjc@y...>; "'azdd'" <azdd@y...>; "'Todd Zuercher'"
> <p26195@e...>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 10:43 AM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Ford 9"
>
>
> > 488:1 axle ratio?
> >
> > That would make your crawl ratio what, around 9,874:1???
> >
> > <grin>
> >
> >
> > No wonder your rig was featured in an offroad magazine!!!
> >
> > Joe West
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Siade, Randy [mailto:randy.siade@u...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 10:18 AM
> > > To: 'azvjc'; 'azdd'; 'Todd Zuercher'
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Ford 9"
> > >
> > >
> > > I am thinking about going to the Currie high pinion 9" third
> > > member in my
> > > Jeep. With this in mind I will have a third member for sale.
> > > I have seen
> > > them advertised setup with Detroit locker upwards of $900.
> > > The following is
> > > what I have invested in mine.
> > >
> > > Detroit locker $450
> > > 488:1 R&P $200
> > > Install kit $100
> > > Thrid Member $100
> > >
> > > Total investment $850
> > >
> > > This rearend is set up and ready to go. I would part with it for $700.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Randy Siade
> > > Engineering Manager
> > > Unisys Unigen Operations
> > > 6161 W. Erie Street
> > > Chandler, AZ 85226
> > > Phone 480 783-5911
> > > Fax 480 783-5960
> > > Cell 602-329-0699
> > > randy.siade@u...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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42745 From: wishmaaker <wishmaaker@y...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 1:56pm
Subject: steel guards for the rear quarter panels
anyone know where I can order the diamond plate steel guards for the
rear quarter panels of my 98 tj
42746 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 2:06pm
Subject: Got my D300 - Thanks AZ Trailwerks
I must say a big thanks to Brian at Arizona Trailwerks. He traded me my old
(non-teralow, non SYE) NP231 for the Dana 300 transfer case I was looking
for. This makes my D300 flip project that much less expensive and easier for
me.
Chris K
42747 From: David Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 2:18pm
Subject: Trail run ideas for Sunday, maybe Saturday.
I was looking at the 3.5+ trails and am considering the following:
Jack Handle
Orville's Loop
Sycamore Creek
Tax Collector
Interest will determine what trail and day.
P.S. Hopefully this will work better, rather than me posting on Friday night
David R. W. Withers
Desk: 480.551.4667
Mobile: 480.215.6992
42748 From: Joe West <joew@a...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 2:25pm
Subject: RE: steel guards for the rear quarter panels
http://www.4x4now.com/4wsbioy.htm
Dan is a GREAT guy to deal with. Tell him Joe West sent you.
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wishmaaker [mailto:wishmaaker@y...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 2:57 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] steel guards for the rear quarter panels
>
>
> anyone know where I can order the diamond plate steel guards for the
> rear quarter panels of my 98 tj
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
42749 From: David R. W. Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 2:32pm
Subject: RE: steel guards for the rear quarter panels
Any idea on the price Joe?
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe West [mailto:joew@a...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:25 PM
To: 'wishmaaker'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] steel guards for the rear quarter panels
http://www.4x4now.com/4wsbioy.htm
Dan is a GREAT guy to deal with. Tell him Joe West sent you.
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wishmaaker [mailto:wishmaaker@y...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 2:57 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] steel guards for the rear quarter panels
>
>
> anyone know where I can order the diamond plate steel guards for the
> rear quarter panels of my 98 tj
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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>
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42750 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 2:29pm
Subject: Re: steel guards for the rear quarter panels
Gotta second this. The OYR corners are very strong.
Chris K
> From: "Joe West" <joew@a...>
> Reply-To: <joew@a...>
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 15:25:02 -0700
> To: "'wishmaaker'" <wishmaaker@y...>, <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] steel guards for the rear quarter panels
>
> http://www.4x4now.com/4wsbioy.htm
>
> Dan is a GREAT guy to deal with. Tell him Joe West sent you.
>
> Joe
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wishmaaker [mailto:wishmaaker@y...]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 2:57 PM
>> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [az_vjc] steel guards for the rear quarter panels
>>
>>
>> anyone know where I can order the diamond plate steel guards for the
>> rear quarter panels of my 98 tj
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>>
>>
>>
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>
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42751 From: Mike <h8pvmnt@h...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 2:53pm
Subject: Fw: Rock Crawl Cancelled?
This is the reply I got from Sandee M. of ASA Four Wheel Drive Clubs. To bad I was looking forward to spectating.
Mike Wixom
85 CJ-7
----- Original Message -----
From: Sandee McCullen
To: Mike
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:08 PM
Subject: RE: Rock Crawl Cancelled?
Boy, the grapevine is FAST............... yes, the event as a "competition" has been cancelled due to BLM mucking around getting the permit approved and putting "stipulations" in place that were above the line etc etc. Part of the reason was we did not receive the support from our local rock crawlers to make this event a spectacular event.
The Arizona Rock Crawlers are planning a campout this weekend and will be doing "rock crawling" for fun and exhibition.......... EVERYONE is invited to join in.
Sandee
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike [mailto:h8pvmnt@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 9:30 AM
To: Sandee McCullen
Subject: Rock Crawl Cancelled?
Sandee,
I just got an e-mail saying the rock crawl had been cancelled is this true?
Mike Wixom
85 CJ-7
42752 From: Joe West <joew@a...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 2:32pm
Subject: RE: steel guards for the rear quarter panels
Just click on the link I sent for current pricing.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David R. W. Withers [mailto:dr_ww@h...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:33 PM
> To: joew@a...; 'wishmaaker'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] steel guards for the rear quarter panels
>
>
> Any idea on the price Joe?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe West [mailto:joew@a...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:25 PM
> To: 'wishmaaker'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] steel guards for the rear quarter panels
>
>
> http://www.4x4now.com/4wsbioy.htm
>
> Dan is a GREAT guy to deal with. Tell him Joe West sent you.
>
> Joe
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wishmaaker [mailto:wishmaaker@y...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 2:57 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] steel guards for the rear quarter panels
> >
> >
> > anyone know where I can order the diamond plate steel
> guards for the
> > rear quarter panels of my 98 tj
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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>
>
42753 From: Joe West <joew@a...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 2:40pm
Subject: RE: steel guards for the rear quarter panels
Sorry Dave,
Dan had pricing on his page at one time... I didn't notice that he had taken
it off.
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David R. W. Withers [mailto:dr_ww@h...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:41 PM
> To: joew@a...
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] steel guards for the rear quarter panels
>
>
> Funny Joe, there is no pricing. I'll just send the guy an e-mail.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe West [mailto:joew@a...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:33 PM
> To: 'David R. W. Withers'; 'wishmaaker'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] steel guards for the rear quarter panels
>
>
> Just click on the link I sent for current pricing.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David R. W. Withers [mailto:dr_ww@h...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:33 PM
> > To: joew@a...; 'wishmaaker'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] steel guards for the rear quarter panels
> >
> >
> > Any idea on the price Joe?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe West [mailto:joew@a...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:25 PM
> > To: 'wishmaaker'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] steel guards for the rear quarter panels
> >
> >
> > http://www.4x4now.com/4wsbioy.htm
> >
> > Dan is a GREAT guy to deal with. Tell him Joe West sent you.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: wishmaaker [mailto:wishmaaker@y...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 2:57 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] steel guards for the rear quarter panels
> > >
> > >
> > > anyone know where I can order the diamond plate steel
> > guards for the
> > > rear quarter panels of my 98 tj
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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42754 From: Mike & Karen Acuna <macunasprint@e...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 3:08pm
Subject: Re: Pitre in Scottsdale
I bought 2 new front rotors and a set of Performance Friction carbon metallic brake pads from Autozone for $80.
Mike
Roger Tomas wrote:
> My guess is they want to replace the brake pads in addition to turning the
> rotors. But you could still get your rotors turned and get new brake pads
> and install them yourself for a lot less than $120.
>
> -Roger
>
> > Ruben Aviles wrote:
> >
> > I just took my TJ in to find out what the hell the vibration was on my brakes. I asked the group about it and whoever said it was a warped rotor was right. Get this, They
> > wanted $120 to have them turned. Doesn't Auto Zone do them for like $15 or something like that? If anyone knows of a good place to get them turned let me know.
>
>
>
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42755 From: dthorton_2000 <dt_horton@h...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 3:11pm
Subject: Re: steel guards for the rear quarter panels
$214 including shipping!
http://www.jeepersandcreepers.com/gear/pages/
offyourrockers_jpg.htm
They have a good reputation on the Jeepsunlimited forums.
HTH,
Dan
--- In az_vjc@y..., "wishmaaker" <wishmaaker@y...> wrote:
> anyone know where I can order the diamond plate steel
guards for the
> rear quarter panels of my 98 tj
42756 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 3:21pm
Subject: OR Fab website update
FYI
I was talking to Mark at OR Fab today. It seems their website got hijacked.
Their old domain registration expired and someone squatted on it. The new
website will be http://www.orfab.com. It should be up again starting
tomorrow.
Chris
42757 From: paparoach85251 <lespaparoach@m...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 3:25pm
Subject: Re: steel guards for the rear quarter panels
I can second that. James at jeepersandcreepers.com is a great guy. He
tries to give you the lowest price on everything that he sells and
always includes shipping.
Les
--- In az_vjc@y..., "dthorton_2000" <dt_horton@h...> wrote:
> $214 including shipping!
>
> http://www.jeepersandcreepers.com/gear/pages/
> offyourrockers_jpg.htm
>
> They have a good reputation on the Jeepsunlimited forums.
>
> HTH,
> Dan
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "wishmaaker" <wishmaaker@y...> wrote:
> > anyone know where I can order the diamond plate steel
> guards for the
> > rear quarter panels of my 98 tj
42758 From: <tandljacobson@a...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 10:39am
Subject: Re: New trail idea..
Been wanting to do something along the same lines with my wife, but I can never get her comfortable enough to drive. I'm sure their are JeepChix out there with husbands who can't drive, too.
Another trail, easy but more interesting than a dirt road, is Bulldog Canyon.
We could call this the "Spousal Abuse Run", for what our Jeeps may have to put up with from the new drivers!
Tom
Message: 1
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 13:26:53 -0700
From: "Chris b" <offroadfun@t...>
Subject: New trail idea..
Hello,
So here's my new idea, but I want your feedback before I post this as an
official run. We travel on camp creek road rated difficulty 1 then take
bloody basin road difficulty 2 back to the I-17 freeway. its 52 miles of dirt
road. I know your thinking that its way too easy, but the catch is.. we let
our wives, and girlfriends do the driving. that's right guys, we kick it in
the passanger seat and try really hard no to help them drive.. I know that
camp creek road has a large hill that you have to climb but the road is
smooth for the most part. the bloody basin trail I have not been on so I
don't really know. I can go scout the area before hand if needed. let me know
your thoughts. the difficulty scale I'm using is based on 1-10 points. if you
have the Arizona backroad adventures book, its trails #27 and #30. they rated
table mesa road a 5 and the ck backroad is rated a 6. so a 1 and 2 is total
cake.
- chris
42759 From: msa12171 <msa12171@a...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2002 4:10pm
Subject: Re: steel guards for the rear quarter panels
I agree 100%, you can 't go wrong with Dan. He is great and his
products are unmatched. One side has covered up some bad body damage
and the other side just protected me from some more bad damage. I
got mine with the holes cut for flush tail lamps and smooth so I
could paint them to match my Jeep. Most people don't even know that
they are there. The best prices products AND service. You won't be
disappointed.
Mike Anderson
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joew@a...> wrote:
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> Joe
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> > anyone know where I can order the diamond plate steel guards for
the
> > rear quarter panels of my 98 tj
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