Wheeling 101 and 202 [Archive]

Wildcat455

01-02-2007, 06:06 AM

I am primarily posting this to guage interest in a seminar on 4 wheeling driving techniques and practices.

Depending on interest, this can take shape as separate seminars on Beginning/Intermediate techniques and Practices, and a more Advanced level course.
A couple of people have voiced their willingness to share their experience to help some of the newer people realize the capabilities and limitations of wheeling their current setup.

Wayne Jamie, and I are currently on the list of instructors.

If this sounds like something you you would be interested in, post up and we will try to set up a day of wheeling and learning fun!

daniel

01-02-2007, 08:35 AM

If you have it on a day where I can come ILL show. I can always use help. I mean sh!t I broke on RAW DEAL:D:D:D:D

AZG23

01-02-2007, 08:43 AM

this is a great idea.....

there is still a TON of stuff I dont know...so Id be interested in it...probably more so the intermediate stuff...you can ALWAYS learn new stuff...

mingoglia

01-02-2007, 09:28 AM

Will this class require a TxT Alumiflex long arm kit in order to participate?

AZG23

01-02-2007, 10:22 AM

I sure hope not...Ive onlygotta 6 in Body Lift...

paparonbo

01-02-2007, 10:26 AM

Sounds great to me! I'm always up for new stuff. I am interested to know what will be required for the intermediate class.

SHNIPE

01-02-2007, 10:45 AM

Ill be down for some advice giving and spotting. I dont wanna bring my jeep cause its ugly so ill need to ride with someone else :D

AZG23

01-02-2007, 10:48 AM

Ill be down for some advice giving and spotting. I dont wanna bring my jeep cause its ugly so ill need to ride with someone else :D

you dont wanna bring your Jeep cuz it would scare the new folks...:D

:eek: " He heh he's gonna b b bbb bb be sp sp spotting m mmmeeee...???" :eek:

daniel

01-02-2007, 10:56 AM

you dont wanna bring your Jeep cuz it would scare the new folks...:D

:eek: " He heh he's gonna b b bbb bb be sp sp spotting m mmmeeee...???" :eek:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA:D THATS GREAT:cool: :D

twstdtj

01-02-2007, 11:02 AM

Im interested, I can help out as needed.

LKD TJ

01-02-2007, 11:10 AM

Im interested, I can help out as needed.

Don't trust him, he doesn't know how to wheel! :eek: He puts you into lines like this --->

9024

Just kidding. Bill this sounds like a great idea. Jeff is a good one to have out there to help 'Macgyver'.

Crawldit

01-02-2007, 11:29 AM

Great idea. I'd be interested for sure

Wildcat455

01-02-2007, 12:35 PM

I was talking to Heinz57 this morning, and he sounded interested in participating as an instructor, too.

There appears to be enough interest. I'm thinking of holding the seminars at Table Mesa. Probably on a Saturday.

Something like:
Beginning Techniques and Practices on Raw Deal.
Intermediate Techniques and Practices on Terminator.
Advanced Techniques and Practices on Anaconda.

I'm thinking like the 20th or the 27th of January.

Wildcat455

01-02-2007, 12:37 PM

Im interested, I can help out as needed.

Cool. I was hoping you'd post up!
We can use you.

xFallen

01-02-2007, 12:38 PM

AZG23

01-02-2007, 12:39 PM

sounds good...

Wildcat455

01-02-2007, 12:41 PM

Ill be down for some advice giving and spotting. I dont wanna bring my jeep cause its ugly so ill need to ride with someone else :D

I can use you for that. consider yourself committed. And you WILL need your Jeep... Sorry. :)

Wildcat455

01-02-2007, 12:43 PM

Just kidding. Bill this sounds like a great idea. Jeff is a good one to have out there to help 'Macgyver'.

So, are you wanting to attend, or what?

It would be nice to have you there. :)

Wildcat455

01-02-2007, 01:26 PM

Sounds great to me! I'm always up for new stuff. I am interested to know what will be required for the intermediate class.

A Jeep capable of the trail the Seminar is held on. A driver.

The trail ratings for each seminar level should give you a pretty good idea what you'll need equipment wise. Keep in mind, most of us don't wheel with all the equipment we really need. :D

LKD TJ

01-02-2007, 02:16 PM

So, are you wanting to attend, or what?

It would be nice to have you there. :)

I will be there :cool: Let me know what I can do.

Can you school me in trail shenangins? Or is that Wheeling 303?

:D

SHNIPE

01-02-2007, 02:29 PM

I can use you for that. consider yourself committed. And you WILL need your Jeep... Sorry. :)

So i get the Raw Deal group? :D Committed i am. once there i MIGHT need to leave early if work wont let me have the day off but i will be there whether or not i have to cut out early. early being around 2pm.

daniel

01-02-2007, 02:36 PM

could i do all 3 of them with my rig?

daniel

01-02-2007, 02:38 PM

well I mean can I do Anacconda???/

Phx Cobra

01-02-2007, 02:44 PM

So i get the Raw Deal group? :D Committed i am. once there i MIGHT need to leave early if work wont let me have the day off but i will be there whether or not i have to cut out early. early being around 2pm.

Good luck, I got Mach04TJ stuck in lower raw deal pretty good on saturday, it took us about 30min to get him out of that damn hole, :o :D

I might be willing to come and check out what you guys got goin, if only to just lend a hand, i've done raw deal and terminator a bunch of times, however I don't think im ready for Anaconda just yet, :mad: , give me a few months.

macinyart

01-02-2007, 02:50 PM

I would be definitely interested, the dates look good. Not sure which group to join, but probably would favor beginner. Thanks for doing this.

xFallen

01-02-2007, 03:06 PM

well I mean can I do Anacconda???/

Sure. How good is your winch?

Wind_Danzer

01-02-2007, 03:11 PM

Daniel...

You crack me up with the Raw Deal comment!! :D :D :D

Bill...

The 20th will be good for me as I want to help judge in Vegas for the next We Rock event the 26-28th and got the days off to do so.

Are you like the lead instructor and will you put together a lesson plan or assignments for the lessor minions. Instructor meeting before the class? Just like to have my ducks in a row before we meet.

The trail ratings for each seminar level should give you a pretty good idea what you'll need equipment wise. Keep in mind, most of us don't wheel with all the equipment we really need.

Shhhhhhh........... ;)

Anyone wanna spot me through Anaconda??? :D :D :D

Hackle

01-02-2007, 03:14 PM

Great idea Bill, if I can be of any help let me know.
Jim F.

jpotts

01-02-2007, 03:33 PM

I'd be interested in the Terminator workshop. My Jeep may be ready for Anaconda, but I don't think that I am.

Wayco

01-02-2007, 04:47 PM

I am available for the 20th but not the 27th. I have similar questions like Jamie, we need some kind of lesson plan, an outline that we can wing it from...

daniel

01-02-2007, 05:02 PM

Sure. How good is your winch?

Sorry should have looked at the trail rate first:o My winch is as good as the guy pulling me:D

xFallen

01-02-2007, 05:13 PM

Sorry should have looked at the trail rate first:o My winch is as good as the guy pulling me:D

That's a good point, and one which will probably be brought up during one of the sessions.

David C

01-02-2007, 05:32 PM

I'm very interested in learning anything you guys want to share. And thanks for getting something going on this. I've been out with a lot of you and followed a few of you, but really didn't know if I was doing things correctly or not - except when I blew a tire on Predator (not correct) and twisted off the end of my axle recently (again, not correct). So yeah, I'll be a sponge for info! :)

DesertX04

01-02-2007, 07:13 PM

My girlfriend's eyes lit up when I mentioned there was a wheeling 101 class coming up. Then she frowned when I said she could drive the beginners level only if she sat shotgun for Anaconda. :D

I'm thinking the 3 levels would be ran simultaneously?

Wildcat455

01-02-2007, 07:23 PM

I will be there :cool: Let me know what I can do.

Can you school me in trail shenangins? Or is that Wheeling 303?

:D

First, Trailhopper, you must snatch the Shot Glass from my hand... :D

Wildcat455

01-02-2007, 07:25 PM

Wildcat455

01-02-2007, 07:27 PM

well I mean can I do Anacconda???/

You can WATCH if your group gets done in time, other than that, Not on my time! :D

AZG23

01-02-2007, 07:29 PM

You can WATCH if your group gets done in time, other than that, Not on my time! :D

Imma do this run with my 6 in BL and 31.4 in tall tyres.....:D

Wildcat455

01-02-2007, 07:38 PM

Bill...

The 20th will be good for me as I want to help judge in Vegas for the next We Rock event the 26-28th and got the days off to do so.

Are you like the lead instructor and will you put together a lesson plan or assignments for the lessor minions. Instructor meeting before the class? Just like to have my ducks in a row before we meet.

I'm starting to lean on the 20th as well, so we can all count on that.

Yes, I will have "outlines" available for things I want to be covered, but I'm really wanting a more "Personal Touch" for the instructors to relate to their experiences. That way, I'm not strapping you down with a bunch of stuff. People will probably learn better from what works for you. There is nothing saying if something in the "Outline" doesn't agree with you, that you can't mold it to fit what you believe to be important.

I don't think we'll do a meeting so much as I'll e-mail you the outline, and any issues, concerns etc. can be handled via e-mail or PM.
There will be less scheduling conflicts this way.

xFallen

01-02-2007, 07:46 PM

I'm starting to lean on the 20th as well, so we can all count on that.

Yes, I will have "outlines" available for things I want to be covered, but I'm really wanting a more "Personal Touch" for the instructors to relate to their experiences. That way, I'm not strapping you down with a bunch of stuff. People will probably learn better from what works for you. There is nothing saying if something in the "Outline" doesn't agree with you, that you can't mold it to fit what you believe to be important.

I don't think we'll do a meeting so much as I'll e-mail you the outline, and any issues, concerns etc. can be handled via e-mail or PM.
There will be less scheduling conflicts this way.

"Personal touching" huh. Hrm. Good to know. This may affect one's choice of group.

twstdtj

01-02-2007, 07:46 PM

I'm starting to lean on the 20th as well, so we can all count on that.

Yes, I will have "outlines" available for things I want to be covered, but I'm really wanting a more "Personal Touch" for the instructors to relate to their experiences. That way, I'm not strapping you down with a bunch of stuff. People will probably learn better from what works for you. There is nothing saying if something in the "Outline" doesn't agree with you, that you can't mold it to fit what you believe to be important.

I don't think we'll do a meeting so much as I'll e-mail you the outline, and any issues, concerns etc. can be handled via e-mail or PM.
There will be less scheduling conflicts this way.

Should I bring the overhead projector?

JK Im up for whatever you need me to do, from mild to wild.

(let the comments flow) all I know is that SHNIPE didnt get any B-day fun on the last run

LKD TJ

01-02-2007, 07:47 PM

First, Trailhopper, you must snatch the Shot Glass from my hand... :D

Or feed the shot glass? :eek:

Hubs, move jeeps, what else :waiting with open ears:

WalterD

01-02-2007, 08:07 PM

Jaime will be there with you, should be done before 2PM, if not, there's something Terribly wrong!!

Is this the same Jaime that was on the Dec. 30 Raw Deal run where Daniel was lead? I am in for the Raw Deal deal.
Walter

Wildcat455

01-02-2007, 08:13 PM

I began structuring the Instructor Assignments.
My idea is to have one Lead instructor, and one or more Assistant instructors per Seminar.

Based on what I have available to me, these are the people and some assignments based on what I believe to be the best match of instructor to seminar material:

Beginning Techniques and Practices on Raw Deal.

Lead instructor:
Wind_Danzer (Jaime)

Assistant instructors:
Shnipe (Dennis)

Intermediate Techniques and Practices on Terminator.

Lead Instructor:
Wayco (Wayne)

Assistant Instructors:
LKD TJ (Travis)

Advanced Techniques and Practices on Anaconda.
Lead instructor:
Heinz57 (Barry Brummett)

Assistant Instructors:
Hackle (Jim F.)
TwstdTJ (Jeff)

We could still use an extra Assistant instructor on The Basic and Intermediate Seminar.

Wildcat455

01-02-2007, 08:15 PM

Or feed the shot glass? :eek:

Hubs, move jeeps, what else :waiting with open ears:

Let's save the Shenanigans for another class (There's too much course material to cover!)

Wildcat455

01-02-2007, 08:15 PM

Is this the same Jaime that was on the Dec. 30 Raw Deal run where Daniel was lead? I am in for the Raw Deal deal.
Walter

Yes, it is.

Wildcat455

01-02-2007, 08:20 PM

Now that we know there is an interest in this, there will be trip runs set up in the appropriate Trail runs Section of the Bulletin Board.

Those interested in making a seminar will need to post under the thread for the trip in which you are interested in.

This will also allow me to guage size of the run to make sure there's a good instructor/Student ratio.

GLEN REAMS

01-02-2007, 09:41 PM

lets just hope this is a little more "thrilling" than the 101 class that was held out at raw deal a few months back

xFallen

01-02-2007, 10:16 PM

lets just hope this is a little more "thrilling" than the 101 class that was held out at raw deal a few months back

Are you there to be educated or thrilled? There's a few theme parks around, or you could go to South Phoenix and start yelling racial epithets. I am sure that'd be pretty thrilling.

A pile of poeple at the last one didn't bother listening to advice or instruction and ended up making very silly driving decisions. It was also way over crowded for the number of people. The people that paid attention and took it seriously claimed they picked up something.

I guess part of the equation is what you put in as a participant. Something to keep in mind while you're looking for thrills.

Barry

AZG23

01-02-2007, 10:18 PM

I believe that was a recovery class wasnt it...how thrilling do you want it...? LOL..:D

I think classes are just that...if you want thrills go on a run...a workshop is designed to teach, not thrill...:)

AZG23

01-02-2007, 10:19 PM

Barry...you beat me to it...I backspaced to many times...:D

GLEN REAMS

01-02-2007, 10:35 PM

Are you there to be educated or thrilled? There's a few theme parks around, or you could go to South Phoenix and start yelling racial epithets. I am sure that'd be pretty thrilling.

A pile of poeple at the last one didn't bother listening to advice or instruction and ended up making very silly driving decisions. It was also way over crowded for the number of people. The people that paid attention and took it seriously claimed they picked up something.

I guess part of the equation is what you put in as a participant. Something to keep in mind while you're looking for thrills.

Barry

yeah i would say it was way to many people there, and i learned alot of new things there too lots of great info went around just was different than myself and im sure many others thought it was goin to be but thats just my .02 cents
Glen

SHNIPE

01-02-2007, 10:52 PM

Should I bring the overhead projector?

(let the comments flow) all I know is that SHNIPE didnt get any B-day fun on the last run

Oh i had enough fun from YOUR birthday :D Plus i dont have hubs... YET :D

SHNIPE

01-02-2007, 10:55 PM

yeah i would say it was way to many people there, and i learned alot of new things there too lots of great info went around just was different than myself and im sure many others thought it was goin to be but thats just my .02 cents
Glen

quit your bishin! youll learn something then after its all said and done.. we'll go get you stuck/dented/broken :D

GLEN REAMS

01-02-2007, 11:00 PM

quit your bishin! youll learn something then after its all said and done.. we'll go get you stuck/dented/broken :D

thank you i just want to know that if i drive the 2 hours out there and let you spot me that you promise me a dent something broken or get my heep stuck

Wind_Danzer

01-03-2007, 02:12 AM

Jaime will be there with you, should be done before 2PM, if not, there's something Terribly wrong!!

Oh man... he's going to scare the newbies with that beat up rig of his. :rolleyes:

I guess I'll have him instruct the "what not to do as a beginner" section. :D :D :D

At least we'll have a finesse instructor (me) verses a balls to the walls instructor (shnipe). :D :D :D

Walter as had been indicated, it is the same Jamie.

I'm looking forward to this and I hope we cover all the stuff needed to make you a better wheeler and still get a chance to see the advanced group. :)

daniel

01-03-2007, 05:26 AM

I think one of the things that should be put out there is how not to runover your spotter:D When there is a body standing in front of your rig push softly on the GAS!!!!

daniel

01-03-2007, 05:29 AM

That's a good point, and one which will probably be brought up during one of the sessions.
I forget somtimes that I can look for myself. I also was thinking of predator

BobLJ

01-03-2007, 06:31 AM

I just signed up for the Raw Deal run and can't wait. thanks agin to all you guys.
boblj

jpotts

01-03-2007, 07:10 AM

Are you there to be educated or thrilled? There's a few theme parks around, or you could go to South Phoenix and start yelling racial epithets. I am sure that'd be pretty thrilling.

A pile of poeple at the last one didn't bother listening to advice or instruction and ended up making very silly driving decisions. It was also way over crowded for the number of people. The people that paid attention and took it seriously claimed they picked up something.

I guess part of the equation is what you put in as a participant. Something to keep in mind while you're looking for thrills.

Barry

I thought the last one was useful - if not thrilling

Wildcat455

01-03-2007, 02:21 PM

Can I please have all instructors and Assistant Instructors PM me their Email Address?

I need to send out the Outlines and get some feedback.

Thank You

My1stJeep

01-10-2007, 01:41 PM

This is for sure on the 20th? Time?

FrenchChili

01-10-2007, 02:56 PM

ill need to ride with someone else :D

Hey Dennis, sup:D

SHNIPE

01-10-2007, 02:59 PM

Hey Dennis, sup:D

haha Ive been told that my jeep is required for this run... im sure its just so we can make fun of me.

Chris its for sure the 20th. meeting at 9am for all the course levels.

My1stJeep

01-11-2007, 10:27 AM

Cool, the down side is that I have run LRD and LT enough, I want to run Anaconda, I have run it once on 33" tires, and also did not have the 4:1 installed, now with the 35" tires and 4:1 I want to run it again, but I am with peepinjeepin or peepjeepin, I don't have a winch. I did need a little tug to get through last time in the rock garden, but don't know how the organizers feel about it... We all know Bill is a bald hard arse, he may not allow it...<sniff>