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odyssey731
12-22-2006, 09:34 PM
i was thinking about trying to build a tummy tuck flatskid sometime in the near future. does anyboby have any advice? or pics? i have a body lift and will be getting a motormount lift. so thats out of the way.

thanks, corey

AZXJ
12-22-2006, 09:44 PM
Auto or manual ? better keep an yey on the driveline angles.. I'd only recommend completely flat if you are doing a rear stretch.. just my 2 cents..

xFallen
12-22-2006, 09:55 PM
Auto or manual ? better keep an yey on the driveline angles.. I'd only recommend completely flat if you are doing a rear stretch.. just my 2 cents..

What if you employ an ESS SYE Dave? They're a LOT shorter than a typical SYE and you can often get away with a flush skid. Comments on that approach?

For example, with the ESS you can apaprently install a Klune-V and still have the tailshaft be shorter than the stock 231. The math works out that way, anyway. That's one of the reasons I went with it, plus the upgraded output shaft.


Barry

dirtgrip
12-23-2006, 09:46 AM
Tummy tuck skids can be tough to do and $$$$ depending on the amount of lift,wheelbase,etc.Plan on using a t-case shifter that doesn,t attach to the body such as Advance Adaptors. I also had to massage the tunnel a bit to clear the linkage.This is in addition to a SYE/CV,MML,&1in BL & my skid isn't even flat it hangs down about an inch from the frame(33 Engineering).I ended up having 21in of clearance with 37 MTR's(35.25in) on a stock wheelbase with a 4in SA lift.The part that helped to make this all work was a HP D60 rear axle-driveline angles are great.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b355/dirtgrip/IMG_0253.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b355/dirtgrip/2.jpg

DsrtJeeper
12-23-2006, 05:10 PM
Tummy tuck skids can be tough to do and $$$$ depending on the amount of lift,wheelbase,etc.Plan on using a t-case shifter that doesn,t attach to the body such as Advance Adaptors. I also had to massage the tunnel a bit to clear the linkage.This is in addition to a SYE/CV,MML,&1in BL & my skid isn't even flat it hangs down about an inch from the frame(33 Engineering).I ended up having 21in of clearance with 37 MTR's(35.25in) on a stock wheelbase with a 4in SA lift.The part that helped to make this all work was a HP D60 rear axle-driveline angles are great.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b355/dirtgrip/IMG_0253.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b355/dirtgrip/2.jpg

I've been wondering how an Unlimited would do with driveline angles and this skid. The 33 Engineering gives some of the best clearance gains, but I'm not to crazy about the lack of curled up edges fore and aft along with the way the edges are spaced away from the frame rails. I'd hate to hit that leading edge with a rock under either frame rail. Do you have more pics? Thanks!

dirtgrip
12-23-2006, 06:40 PM
I've been wondering how an Unlimited would do with driveline angles and this skid. The 33 Engineering gives some of the best clearance gains, but I'm not to crazy about the lack of curled up edges fore and aft along with the way the edges are spaced away from the frame rails. I'd hate to hit that leading edge with a rock under either frame rail. Do you have more pics? Thanks!
Very good eye-you found all the weak points of this design IMO.The space in front is 1/2in from the Jeep's frame.It is the sub frame the skid is attached to-& 1 of the better features that allows removal of the skid plate without having to support the trans/tcase.It would be easy to fab a curved piece to attach to the frame in front of this area.The skidplate itself is angled up in the front & rear. This setup is 3yrs old & there wasn,t too much to choose from like there is now.
This link has more pics/info: http://www.rockcrawler.com/techreports/33engineering_tcase_skid/index.asp

odyssey731
12-23-2006, 09:53 PM
thanks for your help guys. i was looking at the 33engineering skid and dont think it would be to hard to make something similar.:)

AZXJ
12-23-2006, 10:48 PM
What if you employ an ESS SYE Dave? They're a LOT shorter than a typical SYE and you can often get away with a flush skid. Comments on that approach?

For example, with the ESS you can apaprently install a Klune-V and still have the tailshaft be shorter than the stock 231. The math works out that way, anyway. That's one of the reasons I went with it, plus the upgraded output shaft.


Barry


Barry,

You do gain some length with the ESS SYE.. With adjustable arms in the rear you should be able to adjust out the pinion angle with the ESS SYE installed.. High pinion rear axle or wheelbase stretch is going to be the best option though.. (In my opinion..)

If I remember correctly the AA SYE and the ESS SYE are about 2 inch diffrence in length depending on the yoke size that you use at the tail shaft.
The two inches gained from the ESS could be the ticket..But for those that have already spent $600 on an SYE and driveshaft +what ever they paid to have the parts installed, are either going to have to fork out another hunk of change for the new parts to run the Flat belly skid or are going to have to stretch the wheelbase some.. This still entails the cost of another $300 dollar driveshaft. Plus the $350 the skid costs, the costs tied into the wheel base stretch.. Financially your looking at spending close to $1600 on hard parts to run a flat skid plate.. This of course doesn't include the labor costs of a shop to install the stretch, skid and new driveshaft.. Hope this helps..

Dave
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