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J Kuklinski
12-22-2006, 07:10 AM
I have been looking for a front hoop for my 99 TJ. I remember seeing numerous types of mounting locations for the front hoop, some through the dash and tied into the frame at the floor, but receicently the only type that is offered are the type bolted to the dash. Some have frame tie in kits available. My question is, are the dash mount as strong as the floor mount?
Please respond with your suggestions and comments.
John
BRUZR
12-22-2006, 07:51 AM
I have been looking for a front hoop for my 99 TJ. I remember seeing numerous types of mounting locations for the front hoop, some through the dash and tied into the frame at the floor, but receicently the only type that is offered are the type bolted to the dash. Some have frame tie in kits available. My question is, are the dash mount as strong as the floor mount?
Please respond with your suggestions and comments.
John
None of the ready-made bolt-in kits will be as strong as one that you have custom made and tied in to the frame. There are several members that bend some SERIOUS tube and make some bad@$$ cages...
That's my 2 pennies worth...
dakartj
12-22-2006, 07:55 AM
Take a look at the PSC cage. It's not a one piece hoop; however the bracket that supports the top part of the cage is one piece that mounts to the dash bulkhead and the rocker.
SHNIPE
12-22-2006, 07:58 AM
Take a look at the PSC cage. It's not a one piece hoop; however the bracket that supports the top part of the cage is one piece that mounts to the dash bulkhead and the rocker.
I run the full PSC cage and it mounts as described and held up well in my one roll so far. It took a good hit on the top right and barely moved (less than 1/4 inch). I think more traingulation on the b pillar will help as well as all the other pieces i want added :D
BRUZR
12-22-2006, 07:58 AM
I have to agree with Dakartj... If you're intention is bolt-in, PSC is the way to go...
ob1jeeper
12-22-2006, 08:01 AM
For most of us who are not into hig-speed competitive events, the bolt-ins which tie to the body structure are sufficient. You can get a bit more support/protection by adding the tie-in to the frame kits that some of the bolt-ins offer also.
My personal fav of these types is the OR-Fab, with the optional floor-frame tie in, as it provides the best interior space and clearance, and is as strong as you're going to get without resorting to the race-cages Dennis alluded to.
There is no question that the full-on cages are stronger, but they are more $$'s, and more interior space consuming also. IMHO unless you're planning on competitive events participation, they're likely more than is necessary for use as a DD-trail toy.
Good Luck with your decision...:)
SHNIPE
12-22-2006, 08:26 AM
My personal fav of these types is the OR-Fab, with the optional floor-frame tie in, as it provides the best interior space and clearance, and is as strong as you're going to get without resorting to the race-cages Dennis alluded to.
There is no question that the full-on cages are stronger, but they are more $$'s, and more interior space consuming also. IMHO unless you're planning on competitive events participation, they're likely more than is necessary for use as a DD-trail toy.
Thats for sure. The stock rear can be braced well enough to handle a roll should one ever occur. I should have noted that the only reason i went with the full cage is because my stock cage was destroyed in a rollover on a dirt road. It had no bracing, was bone stock. Had i went with a cage before then i would have gotten Monkeybars by Brian aka Griswold. His utilizes the stock rear portion and beef em up with spreaders. The front goes down behind the airvents and bolts to the floor. very well done. 4wheelers and Desertfab do great cages as well. All three can do floor sections to bolt the seats to for the added strength. I plan on adding this as it was not part of the original design.
I have very little usable space in the back. The way my cage is designed it does not allow for passengers in the rear now. I might end up slightly modifying it when i go to bigger tires as i will want to run the tire in the back and not on the tailgate.
SavageSun4x4
12-22-2006, 08:27 AM
IMHO unless you're planning on competitive events participation, they're likely more than is necessary for use as a DD-trail toy.
I agree on that, but you MUST factor in where you wheel. I wheel often in Moab and it was because of that that I went with a thru the dash model. Lots of sheer drop offs out there that are but feet from the edge of the trail.
mingoglia
12-22-2006, 08:34 AM
I too have a cage that goes through the dash like Don's. I can attest somewhat to the strength of the PSC cage as well as last weekend I winched off the back of Travis P's and we *literally* had the front end of his Jeep off the ground. :)
ecp3031
12-22-2006, 11:55 AM
Take a look at Rock Hard 4X4 -www.rockhard4x4parts.com/ - sport cage also. Offers options to extend from dash down to floor and then over to frame if wanted. I have their full cage in my CJ7 ;while I hope never to use it, I feel confident in its strength and workmanship.
LKD TJ
12-22-2006, 12:36 PM
I too have a cage that goes through the dash like Don's. I can attest somewhat to the strength of the PSC cage as well as last weekend I winched off the back of Travis P's and we *literally* had the front end of his Jeep off the ground. :)
It was only off the ground like 6", but it was still kind of funny :eek: .
I like the PSC full cage a lot, but if you intend on using the back seat it is not the one that I would choose. It is hard to get in from the side and with the shoulder harness mount behind the seats it is hard to get in the traditional way. Just my .02
dakartj
12-22-2006, 12:42 PM
I have to agree with Dakartj... If you're intention is bolt-in, PSC is the way to go...
Just an FYI, the PSC cage is mostly a weld in cage. It's just the lower bracket that bolt in to the body.
Come see us for a nice cage setup tied to the frame..
Dave
480-288-4213
BRUZR
12-22-2006, 02:06 PM
Just an FYI, the PSC cage is mostly a weld in cage. It's just the lower bracket that bolt in to the body.
True dat... My bad.
azcharlie
12-22-2006, 03:13 PM
DesertFab did mine. Radiator loop and a thru-dash roll cage. They do good work and not to expensive.
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