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38078 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 4:30pm
Subject: RE: OPTIMA QUESTION
Yellow top is rated SLI (starter, lights, and ignition) as well as being a
deep cycle for heavy winching applications. They make a blue top that is
also rated the same as the yellow, just targeted at the marine/boat market
vs. the off-road crowd.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: msa12171 [mailto:msa12171@a...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:55 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] OPTIMA QUESTION
Which Optima would be best for a TJ with winch, lights, stereo,
etc.? I might be replacing my batt. real soon and would like to know
which one is the most desired for my application. TIA!
Mike A.
"Az_A"
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38079 From: Fred <fredtj@h...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 4:32pm
Subject: Re: OPTIMA QUESTION
One of the two "deep cycle" ones, i.e, the yellow top, or the deep cycle
blue top, are the only two Optima's that you can use with a winch, and not
void the warranty. The red top, and the non-deep cycle blue top are
"starting" type batteries, and aren't made to be drawn down more than
somthing like 3%, like most other car batteries. The deep cycle batteries
can handle being drawn down more and more often.
Cheers,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "msa12171" <msa12171@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:54 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] OPTIMA QUESTION
> Which Optima would be best for a TJ with winch, lights, stereo,
> etc.? I might be replacing my batt. real soon and would like to know
> which one is the most desired for my application. TIA!
>
> Mike A.
> "Az_A"
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
38080 From: <Wapiti49er@a...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 0:01pm
Subject: Re: Optima yellow
Something called batteries.......> Don't know the rest. They only carry batteries of all sorts Watches to cars and cell phones. Bell and Cave Creek Road. I picked up one for my Jeep. I picked up a yellow top for 190. Pricey but it's a deep cycle. I l left my inside lights (3) all day and night and didn't hesitate starting. Todd.
38081 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:06pm
Subject: Re: Optima yellow
Batteries Plus
----- Original Message -----
From: Wapiti49er@aol.com
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Optima yellow
Something called batteries.......> Don't know the rest. They only carry batteries of all sorts Watches to cars and cell phones. Bell and Cave Creek Road. I picked up one for my Jeep. I picked up a yellow top for 190. Pricey but it's a deep cycle. I l left my inside lights (3) all day and night and didn't hesitate starting. Todd.
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38082 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 4:54pm
Subject: Re: FrUsTrAtiOn!!!
Doesn't RE still use factory rubber bushings?
Linda
JNB4PLS@a... wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> I tried ordering RE control arm bushings for my front lowers today since I
> found them to be in as bad a shape as the rears and ran in to the same thing.
> RE is taking phone calls, but won't take orders until the second.
> Unbelievable.
>
> John Butler
>
>
>
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38083 From: Mike & Karen Acuna <macunasprint@e...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:09pm
Subject: rusty's offroad
Has anyone in the group used any of Rusty's Offroad lifts, control arms,
or trackbar?
Any comments?
Thanks, Mike
http://www.rustysoffroad.com/
38084 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:26pm
Subject: RE: Optima yellow
I picked up a Yellow Top for around $150ish or there about at a place called Battery Warehouse (in the yellow pages).
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Wapiti49er@aol.com [mailto:Wapiti49er@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:01 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Optima yellow
Something called batteries.......> Don't know the rest. They only carry batteries of all sorts Watches to cars and cell phones. Bell and Cave Creek Road. I picked up one for my Jeep. I picked up a yellow top for 190. Pricey but it's a deep cycle. I l left my inside lights (3) all day and night and didn't hesitate starting. Todd.
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38085 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:24pm
Subject: RE: Axle Alley Tomorrow
Now no one is going to show!!
Joey K
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Kruize [mailto:]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:04 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; arizonajeep@h...
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
>
>
> I'll be there!
>
> Scott K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stu Olson [mailto:]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:50 AM
> To: arizonajeep@h...
> Cc: az_vjc (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
>
>
> testing Joe's home account
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@h...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:34 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
>
>
> It should be! Try again..
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:28 AM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> >
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > I am getting bounced mail back from: arizonajeep@h...
> >
> > Is that ISP account still valid?
> >
> > Stu
> >
> > Stu Olson
> > www.stu-offroad.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@h...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 9:50 AM
> > To: azvjc (E-mail)
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> >
> >
> > Hi Gang,
> >
> > If you are planning to go on the Axle Alley trip tomorrow,
> > please respond to
> > this email. I'm trying to compile a list of names.
> >
> > Unless anyone has any objections, we'll meet at the Texaco
> in Florence
> > Junction at 10:00am.
> >
> > Joe West
> >
> >
>
38086 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:27pm
Subject: RE: Axle Alley Tomorrow
Bill and I are going straight to the Jamboree camp ground to unload. We
should be there by 9am.
Ross
-----Original Message-----
From: DesertJeep [mailto:joey@d...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:24 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; arizonajeep@h...
Cc: scottkruize@e...; solson8@q...
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
Now no one is going to show!!
Joey K
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Kruize [mailto:]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:04 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; arizonajeep@h...
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
>
>
> I'll be there!
>
> Scott K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stu Olson [mailto:]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:50 AM
> To: arizonajeep@h...
> Cc: az_vjc (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
>
>
> testing Joe's home account
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@h...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:34 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
>
>
> It should be! Try again..
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:28 AM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> >
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > I am getting bounced mail back from: arizonajeep@h...
> >
> > Is that ISP account still valid?
> >
> > Stu
> >
> > Stu Olson
> > www.stu-offroad.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@h...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 9:50 AM
> > To: azvjc (E-mail)
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> >
> >
> > Hi Gang,
> >
> > If you are planning to go on the Axle Alley trip tomorrow,
> > please respond to
> > this email. I'm trying to compile a list of names.
> >
> > Unless anyone has any objections, we'll meet at the Texaco
> in Florence
> > Junction at 10:00am.
> >
> > Joe West
> >
> >
>
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38087 From: Gary Holmes <niitoyis@w...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:37pm
Subject: Re: Re: Does anyone have Garmin's Topo! ?
Jerry:
Have you used Delorme's 3D Topo Quads? They are the actual top maps scanned
in plus Delormes standard data combined. When you get down to the higher
resolutions you get the actual topo maps you would buy at World of Maps.
Works great for me and I have been using Delorme for many years. I have the
3D Topo Quads for the Western United States including Alaska. The only time
I had a problem was with the newest releases on my old Pentium 150 Laptop.
Not enough processing power. My 600 Pentium III laptop works great with it.
Gary Holmes
jsteele1999 wrote:
> I've got Topo!, and I've got Maptech. I tried DeLorme about 6 months
> ago and consider the DeLorme hyped junk. DeLorme does not use real top
> maps and their software is bloated and buggy. I had to try over and
> over again to even get it to load on my laptop.
>
> Topo! software is buggy too. When I take it in the vehicle and use
> automatic tracking with the GPS it either starts giving me faults and
> crashes after a couple of hours or just quits. And the people at Topo
> were downright offensive and rude when I informed them of this (I've
> had this occur on two different computers, one of which I enventually
> formatted c: and re-installed only the operating system and Topo!
> on, to no avail).
>
> So far Maptech is my choice. My only complaint is that Maptech only
> accesses maps via the CD-ROM (it won't look for them on the hard
> drive). I use a third party virtual CD-ROM so I can put one of their
> discs on hard drive. It doesn't autoload it but it's easier than
> changing CD's on the road. But Maptech is reliable and doesn't appear
> to be buggy.
>
> For years my favorite navigation software, which doesn't come with
> maps, has been Fugawi. The fact that it comes on a floppy demonstrates
> that it is lean efficient software (which tends to not be buggy). But
> you have to use Fugawi with either USGS DRG's or your own scanned
> maps.
>
> Jerry
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Baja Fleg" <fleigle@h...> wrote:
> > National Geographic not Garmin makes TOPO!! Garmin has its own
> software
> > called Mapsource and it is the only software that will allow direct
> basemap
> > uploads. Most of the other software setups will allow waypoint and
> route
> > uploads only. I have been told that mapsource is not that good. I
> have
> > used TOPO! made by National Geographic and its good, basically its
> just the
> > USGS maps scanned in. You can get almost the same results from
> OziExplorer
> > but downloading the USGS maps for it can be a bit difficult and time
> > consuming. Another decent software out there is Topo USA 3.0 by
> Delorme. I
> > have used Topo USA 2.0 and found that a lot of the trails are either
> not on
> > it or are not correct. I just ordered Topo USA 3.0 on DVD, I've
> been told
> > that it has an option to add your own roads so that will be nice and
> that a
> > lot of the data has been upgraded. What I do when off-roading is
> connect
> > the my GPS to my laptop and let my passengers direct me by watching
> the
> > screen live update as we go. Works great especially while
> Geocaching.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > I bought a Garmin ETREX Legend, and I want to try out Garmin's TOPO!
> > software before I but it.
> >
> > Does anyone have it?
> >
> > What do you think of it?
> >
> > Has anyone in the club added the routes for the different trails?
> >
> > TOPO! costs $100.00. That's fine, but if there is a better one that
> I
> > can download the topo maps to my Legend from, I'd be interested in
> > what everyone else has found. I heard that TOPO! is the only one
> that
> > downloads the topo maps to my Legend. Most of the software out there
> > allows me to upload/download ROUTES and waypoints, but no topo map
> > information. I thought I saw a separate software program that allows
> > me to indirectly load the topos, like National Geographic's Arizona
> > Topo at REI. Has anyone seen this?
> >
> > John Rabenius
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael Fleigle
> > Http://members.xoom.com/Fleg
> >
> >
> >
> >
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38088 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:38pm
Subject: RE: Axle Alley Tomorrow
Ross,
I'm guessing it will be just you, Bill, Scott Kruze and myself. Scott...
want to meet at my house and go from there?
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ross Skinner [mailto:rskinner@s...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:28 PM
> To: 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
>
>
> Bill and I are going straight to the Jamboree camp ground to
> unload. We
> should be there by 9am.
> Ross
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DesertJeep [mailto:joey@d...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:24 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; arizonajeep@h...
> Cc: scottkruize@e...; solson8@q...
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
>
>
> Now no one is going to show!!
> Joey K
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Kruize [mailto:]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:04 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; arizonajeep@h...
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> >
> >
> > I'll be there!
> >
> > Scott K
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stu Olson [mailto:]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:50 AM
> > To: arizonajeep@h...
> > Cc: az_vjc (E-mail)
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> >
> >
> > testing Joe's home account
> >
> > Stu Olson
> > www.stu-offroad.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@h...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:34 AM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> >
> >
> > It should be! Try again..
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:28 AM
> > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> > >
> > >
> > > Joe,
> > >
> > > I am getting bounced mail back from: arizonajeep@h...
> > >
> > > Is that ISP account still valid?
> > >
> > > Stu
> > >
> > > Stu Olson
> > > www.stu-offroad.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@h...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 9:50 AM
> > > To: azvjc (E-mail)
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Gang,
> > >
> > > If you are planning to go on the Axle Alley trip tomorrow,
> > > please respond to
> > > this email. I'm trying to compile a list of names.
> > >
> > > Unless anyone has any objections, we'll meet at the Texaco
> > in Florence
> > > Junction at 10:00am.
> > >
> > > Joe West
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
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38089 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:39pm
Subject: RE: Re: SYE Install
Smart man Mike... let James be the guinea pig.
<grin>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jeepin_in_az [mailto:jeepin_in_az@y...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 3:36 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: SYE Install
>
>
> We are starting James's at 8:00 am, then after his is done, we are
> going to start on mine.
>
> Mike
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...> wrote:
> >
>
>
>
>
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38090 From: bermboy2000 <bermboy@h...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:38pm
Subject: Re: OPTIMA QUESTION
I think a yellow top would probably be better since you have the
winch but my red top is fine with a/c rocklights, stereo and air
compressor, I guess it depends on houw much use the winch gets.
BTW what is ths "AZ_A" Thing?
--- In az_vjc@y..., "msa12171" <msa12171@a...> wrote:
> Which Optima would be best for a TJ with winch, lights, stereo,
> etc.? I might be replacing my batt. real soon and would like to
know
> which one is the most desired for my application. TIA!
>
> Mike A.
> "Az_A"
38091 From: Gary Holmes <niitoyis@w...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:41pm
Subject: Re: Re: Optima yellow
OK. I replyed to Jon only but here it is.
BAP carries the Optima's in stock. On the West side it is at 23 Ave. and
just North of Camelback on West side of street.
Gary Holmes
jeepin_in_az wrote:
> If anyone replies, do it to the whole group, I am looking for one too.
> Any other items needed to drop in an Optima?
>
> Mike Baney
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...> wrote:
> > My battery is dying quickly. I need a Yellow top before the
> weekend. Anyone
> > know of a good deal? Or, does anyone know who even carries them
> locally?
> > East valley preferred.
> >
> > TIA.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------
> > Jon Loveless
> > (480)816-6240 office AZ
> > jonloveless@m...
> > ___________________________
>
>
>
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38092 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:40pm
Subject: RE: Re: OPTIMA QUESTION
Az_A is Mike's nickname. It stands for Arizona Amoeba.
<laugh>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bermboy2000 [mailto:bermboy@h...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:39 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OPTIMA QUESTION
>
>
> I think a yellow top would probably be better since you have the
> winch but my red top is fine with a/c rocklights, stereo and air
> compressor, I guess it depends on houw much use the winch gets.
>
> BTW what is ths "AZ_A" Thing?
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "msa12171" <msa12171@a...> wrote:
> > Which Optima would be best for a TJ with winch, lights, stereo,
> > etc.? I might be replacing my batt. real soon and would like to
> know
> > which one is the most desired for my application. TIA!
> >
> > Mike A.
> > "Az_A"
>
>
>
>
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38093 From: Gary Holmes <niitoyis@w...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:44pm
Subject: Re: Optima yellow
There is one here at 35th Ave. and Glendale too.
Gary Holmes
DougB wrote:
Batteries Plus
----- Original Message -----
From: Wapiti49er@aol.com
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Optima yellow
Something called batteries.......> Don't know the rest. They only carry batteries of all sorts Watches to cars and cell phones. Bell and Cave Creek Road. I picked up one for my Jeep. I picked up a yellow top for 190. Pricey but it's a deep cycle. I l left my inside lights (3) all day and night and didn't hesitate starting. Todd.
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38094 From: bermboy2000 <bermboy@h...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:43pm
Subject: Re: OPTIMA QUESTION
So why does Sharky have it too? Are the Amoebas multiplying? ;p
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...> wrote:
> Az_A is Mike's nickname. It stands for Arizona Amoeba.
> <laugh>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bermboy2000 [mailto:bermboy@h...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:39 PM
> > To: az_vjc@y...
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OPTIMA QUESTION
> >
> >
> > I think a yellow top would probably be better since you have the
> > winch but my red top is fine with a/c rocklights, stereo and air
> > compressor, I guess it depends on houw much use the winch gets.
> >
> > BTW what is ths "AZ_A" Thing?
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "msa12171" <msa12171@a...> wrote:
> > > Which Optima would be best for a TJ with winch, lights, stereo,
> > > etc.? I might be replacing my batt. real soon and would like
to
> > know
> > > which one is the most desired for my application. TIA!
> > >
> > > Mike A.
> > > "Az_A"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
38095 From: Gary Holmes <niitoyis@w...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:46pm
Subject: Re: rusty's offroad
Mike:
I have a Rusty's 4" lift on my '78 Cherokee WT. They were helpful but I did
have a couple of issues. Wrong bushing in front eye of rear springs and
wrong fittings on extended brake lines. Otherwise, great guys to work with
and very helpfull. Product seems to work very well with quick delivery after
ordering.
Gary Holmes
Mike & Karen Acuna wrote:
> Has anyone in the group used any of Rusty's Offroad lifts, control arms,
> or trackbar?
> Any comments?
> Thanks, Mike
> http://www.rustysoffroad.com/
>
>
>
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38096 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:50pm
Subject: Re: rusty's offroad
Not sure about his lift stuff, but a bought what was supposed to be a heavy
duty steering set up from him and it was not good...and basically unsafe.
Kept breaking the double end and it had a tremendously large dead zone in
it. I had gotten other stuff from him, and my general customer service
experience was also not good. Literally took him 3 months to complete a
simple order...and then only after I spent a small fortune in long distance
phone calls. It was really a nightmare. He'd tell me an item (outer TJ D30
stub - not a tough one) was shipped...it wasn't; he'd tell me several weeks
later that it was shipped...it wasn't. This went on and on. When the blessed
day arrived, I opened the box, and it was a YJ 260 stub. Couldn't believe
it. Started the whole process again....took forever. ACK!
He's a real nice guy to talk to, and you want to believe him and you want to
support a small business, but I'll never mess with him again. Too many other
shops out there that have their act together.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Karen Acuna" <macunasprint@e...>
To: "AZVJC AZVJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:09 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] rusty's offroad
> Has anyone in the group used any of Rusty's Offroad lifts, control arms,
> or trackbar?
> Any comments?
> Thanks, Mike
> http://www.rustysoffroad.com/
>
>
>
>
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38097 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:48pm
Subject: RE: Re: OPTIMA QUESTION
They are a club...
Sort of like the Extreme four Wheelers except the opposite. They like low
and slow.
Come on, you've heard of them haven't you? The ARIZONA AMOEBAS ???
Mike is the leader of the pack.
Or is it the gaggle? Herd? Flock?
(anyone know the name for a bunch of amoebas)?
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bermboy2000 [mailto:bermboy@h...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:44 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OPTIMA QUESTION
>
>
> So why does Sharky have it too? Are the Amoebas multiplying? ;p
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...> wrote:
> > Az_A is Mike's nickname. It stands for Arizona Amoeba.
> > <laugh>
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: bermboy2000 [mailto:bermboy@h...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:39 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OPTIMA QUESTION
> > >
> > >
> > > I think a yellow top would probably be better since you have the
> > > winch but my red top is fine with a/c rocklights, stereo and air
> > > compressor, I guess it depends on houw much use the winch gets.
> > >
> > > BTW what is ths "AZ_A" Thing?
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@y..., "msa12171" <msa12171@a...> wrote:
> > > > Which Optima would be best for a TJ with winch, lights, stereo,
> > > > etc.? I might be replacing my batt. real soon and would like
> to
> > > know
> > > > which one is the most desired for my application. TIA!
> > > >
> > > > Mike A.
> > > > "Az_A"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
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38098 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:53pm
Subject: Re: Re: OPTIMA QUESTION
Amoebae?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:48 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: OPTIMA QUESTION
> They are a club...
>
> Sort of like the Extreme four Wheelers except the opposite. They like low
> and slow.
> Come on, you've heard of them haven't you? The ARIZONA AMOEBAS ???
> Mike is the leader of the pack.
>
> Or is it the gaggle? Herd? Flock?
> (anyone know the name for a bunch of amoebas)?
>
>
> Joe
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bermboy2000 [mailto:bermboy@h...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:44 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OPTIMA QUESTION
> >
> >
> > So why does Sharky have it too? Are the Amoebas multiplying? ;p
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...> wrote:
> > > Az_A is Mike's nickname. It stands for Arizona Amoeba.
> > > <laugh>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: bermboy2000 [mailto:bermboy@h...]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:39 PM
> > > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OPTIMA QUESTION
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think a yellow top would probably be better since you have the
> > > > winch but my red top is fine with a/c rocklights, stereo and air
> > > > compressor, I guess it depends on houw much use the winch gets.
> > > >
> > > > BTW what is ths "AZ_A" Thing?
> > > >
> > > > --- In az_vjc@y..., "msa12171" <msa12171@a...> wrote:
> > > > > Which Optima would be best for a TJ with winch, lights, stereo,
> > > > > etc.? I might be replacing my batt. real soon and would like
> > to
> > > > know
> > > > > which one is the most desired for my application. TIA!
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike A.
> > > > > "Az_A"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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38099 From: Marv Miller <mervalt@f...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:48pm
Subject: Re: Re: Does anyone have Garmin's Topo! ?
Gary,
I have Delorme's 3D Top Quads for AZ. It's pretty cool to change the topo's
to 3D so you can almost "feel" the changes in elevation, and check the
terrain of your path.
I have a Garmin eTrex GPS, but I'm hearing on this board that I won't be
able to download stuff from the pc to the GPS unless I get Garmin software?
I haven't been able to figure out the procedure yet. Any info along these
lines?
I haven't had any software probs either, just haven't spent enough time with
it I guess.
TIA
Marv Miller
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Holmes <niitoyis@w...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Does anyone have Garmin's Topo! ?
> Jerry:
>
> Have you used Delorme's 3D Topo Quads? They are the actual top maps
scanned
> in plus Delormes standard data combined. When you get down to the higher
> resolutions you get the actual topo maps you would buy at World of Maps.
> Works great for me and I have been using Delorme for many years. I have
the
> 3D Topo Quads for the Western United States including Alaska. The only
time
> I had a problem was with the newest releases on my old Pentium 150 Laptop.
> Not enough processing power. My 600 Pentium III laptop works great with
it.
>
> Gary Holmes
>
> jsteele1999 wrote:
>
> > I've got Topo!, and I've got Maptech. I tried DeLorme about 6 months
> > ago and consider the DeLorme hyped junk. DeLorme does not use real top
> > maps and their software is bloated and buggy. I had to try over and
> > over again to even get it to load on my laptop.
> >
> > Topo! software is buggy too. When I take it in the vehicle and use
> > automatic tracking with the GPS it either starts giving me faults and
> > crashes after a couple of hours or just quits. And the people at Topo
> > were downright offensive and rude when I informed them of this (I've
> > had this occur on two different computers, one of which I enventually
> > formatted c: and re-installed only the operating system and Topo!
> > on, to no avail).
> >
> > So far Maptech is my choice. My only complaint is that Maptech only
> > accesses maps via the CD-ROM (it won't look for them on the hard
> > drive). I use a third party virtual CD-ROM so I can put one of their
> > discs on hard drive. It doesn't autoload it but it's easier than
> > changing CD's on the road. But Maptech is reliable and doesn't appear
> > to be buggy.
> >
> > For years my favorite navigation software, which doesn't come with
> > maps, has been Fugawi. The fact that it comes on a floppy demonstrates
> > that it is lean efficient software (which tends to not be buggy). But
> > you have to use Fugawi with either USGS DRG's or your own scanned
> > maps.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Baja Fleg" <fleigle@h...> wrote:
> > > National Geographic not Garmin makes TOPO!! Garmin has its own
> > software
> > > called Mapsource and it is the only software that will allow direct
> > basemap
> > > uploads. Most of the other software setups will allow waypoint and
> > route
> > > uploads only. I have been told that mapsource is not that good. I
> > have
> > > used TOPO! made by National Geographic and its good, basically its
> > just the
> > > USGS maps scanned in. You can get almost the same results from
> > OziExplorer
> > > but downloading the USGS maps for it can be a bit difficult and time
> > > consuming. Another decent software out there is Topo USA 3.0 by
> > Delorme. I
> > > have used Topo USA 2.0 and found that a lot of the trails are either
> > not on
> > > it or are not correct. I just ordered Topo USA 3.0 on DVD, I've
> > been told
> > > that it has an option to add your own roads so that will be nice and
> > that a
> > > lot of the data has been upgraded. What I do when off-roading is
> > connect
> > > the my GPS to my laptop and let my passengers direct me by watching
> > the
> > > screen live update as we go. Works great especially while
> > Geocaching.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> > > ----Original Message Follows----
> > > I bought a Garmin ETREX Legend, and I want to try out Garmin's TOPO!
> > > software before I but it.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have it?
> > >
> > > What do you think of it?
> > >
> > > Has anyone in the club added the routes for the different trails?
> > >
> > > TOPO! costs $100.00. That's fine, but if there is a better one that
> > I
> > > can download the topo maps to my Legend from, I'd be interested in
> > > what everyone else has found. I heard that TOPO! is the only one
> > that
> > > downloads the topo maps to my Legend. Most of the software out there
> > > allows me to upload/download ROUTES and waypoints, but no topo map
> > > information. I thought I saw a separate software program that allows
> > > me to indirectly load the topos, like National Geographic's Arizona
> > > Topo at REI. Has anyone seen this?
> > >
> > > John Rabenius
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Michael Fleigle
> > > Http://members.xoom.com/Fleg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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38100 From: ERIC HERRING <ericherring@m...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:58pm
Subject: RE: Optima yellow
BAP sells them, and batteries plus or whatever the name is.
Eric Herring 92XJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Loveless [mailto:jonloveless@mindspring.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:01 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Optima yellow
My battery is dying quickly. I need a Yellow top before the weekend. Anyone know of a good deal? Or, does anyone know who even carries them locally? East valley preferred.
TIA.
Jon
------------------------------------------
Jon Loveless
(480)816-6240 office AZ
jonloveless@mindspring.com
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38101 From: Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 6:03pm
Subject: RE: Axle Alley Tomorrow
Joe,
Sure thing. I have idea where the campground is. I hope you do.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@h...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:38 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
Ross,
I'm guessing it will be just you, Bill, Scott Kruze and myself. Scott...
want to meet at my house and go from there?
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ross Skinner [mailto:rskinner@s...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:28 PM
> To: 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
>
>
> Bill and I are going straight to the Jamboree camp ground to
> unload. We
> should be there by 9am.
> Ross
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DesertJeep [mailto:joey@d...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:24 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; arizonajeep@h...
> Cc: scottkruize@e...; solson8@q...
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
>
>
> Now no one is going to show!!
> Joey K
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Kruize [mailto:]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:04 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; arizonajeep@h...
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> >
> >
> > I'll be there!
> >
> > Scott K
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stu Olson [mailto:]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:50 AM
> > To: arizonajeep@h...
> > Cc: az_vjc (E-mail)
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> >
> >
> > testing Joe's home account
> >
> > Stu Olson
> > www.stu-offroad.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@h...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:34 AM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> >
> >
> > It should be! Try again..
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:28 AM
> > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> > >
> > >
> > > Joe,
> > >
> > > I am getting bounced mail back from: arizonajeep@h...
> > >
> > > Is that ISP account still valid?
> > >
> > > Stu
> > >
> > > Stu Olson
> > > www.stu-offroad.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@h...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 9:50 AM
> > > To: azvjc (E-mail)
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Gang,
> > >
> > > If you are planning to go on the Axle Alley trip tomorrow,
> > > please respond to
> > > this email. I'm trying to compile a list of names.
> > >
> > > Unless anyone has any objections, we'll meet at the Texaco
> > in Florence
> > > Junction at 10:00am.
> > >
> > > Joe West
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
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38102 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 6:07pm
Subject: RE: Re: Does anyone have Garmin's Topo! ?
Garmin GPS receivers allows upload/download of waypoints, routes, and tracks
from any software that can speak Garmin....lots of them can do that.
Only Garmin markets software that can enhance the map data in the GPS
receiver. Delorme, OziExplorer, etc. will NOT supplement the map data in
the receiver. For that, you will need one of various MapSource (made my
Garmin) products....they have a variety of them and can be found on their
web site.
From the sounds of it, I think you folks might have enjoyed the GPS class we
had earlier this month.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Marv Miller [mailto:mervalt@f...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:48 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Does anyone have Garmin's Topo! ?
Gary,
I have Delorme's 3D Top Quads for AZ. It's pretty cool to change the topo's
to 3D so you can almost "feel" the changes in elevation, and check the
terrain of your path.
I have a Garmin eTrex GPS, but I'm hearing on this board that I won't be
able to download stuff from the pc to the GPS unless I get Garmin software?
I haven't been able to figure out the procedure yet. Any info along these
lines?
I haven't had any software probs either, just haven't spent enough time with
it I guess.
TIA
Marv Miller
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Holmes <niitoyis@w...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Does anyone have Garmin's Topo! ?
> Jerry:
>
> Have you used Delorme's 3D Topo Quads? They are the actual top maps
scanned
> in plus Delormes standard data combined. When you get down to the higher
> resolutions you get the actual topo maps you would buy at World of Maps.
> Works great for me and I have been using Delorme for many years. I have
the
> 3D Topo Quads for the Western United States including Alaska. The only
time
> I had a problem was with the newest releases on my old Pentium 150 Laptop.
> Not enough processing power. My 600 Pentium III laptop works great with
it.
>
> Gary Holmes
>
> jsteele1999 wrote:
>
> > I've got Topo!, and I've got Maptech. I tried DeLorme about 6 months
> > ago and consider the DeLorme hyped junk. DeLorme does not use real top
> > maps and their software is bloated and buggy. I had to try over and
> > over again to even get it to load on my laptop.
> >
> > Topo! software is buggy too. When I take it in the vehicle and use
> > automatic tracking with the GPS it either starts giving me faults and
> > crashes after a couple of hours or just quits. And the people at Topo
> > were downright offensive and rude when I informed them of this (I've
> > had this occur on two different computers, one of which I enventually
> > formatted c: and re-installed only the operating system and Topo!
> > on, to no avail).
> >
> > So far Maptech is my choice. My only complaint is that Maptech only
> > accesses maps via the CD-ROM (it won't look for them on the hard
> > drive). I use a third party virtual CD-ROM so I can put one of their
> > discs on hard drive. It doesn't autoload it but it's easier than
> > changing CD's on the road. But Maptech is reliable and doesn't appear
> > to be buggy.
> >
> > For years my favorite navigation software, which doesn't come with
> > maps, has been Fugawi. The fact that it comes on a floppy demonstrates
> > that it is lean efficient software (which tends to not be buggy). But
> > you have to use Fugawi with either USGS DRG's or your own scanned
> > maps.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Baja Fleg" <fleigle@h...> wrote:
> > > National Geographic not Garmin makes TOPO!! Garmin has its own
> > software
> > > called Mapsource and it is the only software that will allow direct
> > basemap
> > > uploads. Most of the other software setups will allow waypoint and
> > route
> > > uploads only. I have been told that mapsource is not that good. I
> > have
> > > used TOPO! made by National Geographic and its good, basically its
> > just the
> > > USGS maps scanned in. You can get almost the same results from
> > OziExplorer
> > > but downloading the USGS maps for it can be a bit difficult and time
> > > consuming. Another decent software out there is Topo USA 3.0 by
> > Delorme. I
> > > have used Topo USA 2.0 and found that a lot of the trails are either
> > not on
> > > it or are not correct. I just ordered Topo USA 3.0 on DVD, I've
> > been told
> > > that it has an option to add your own roads so that will be nice and
> > that a
> > > lot of the data has been upgraded. What I do when off-roading is
> > connect
> > > the my GPS to my laptop and let my passengers direct me by watching
> > the
> > > screen live update as we go. Works great especially while
> > Geocaching.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> > > ----Original Message Follows----
> > > I bought a Garmin ETREX Legend, and I want to try out Garmin's TOPO!
> > > software before I but it.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have it?
> > >
> > > What do you think of it?
> > >
> > > Has anyone in the club added the routes for the different trails?
> > >
> > > TOPO! costs $100.00. That's fine, but if there is a better one that
> > I
> > > can download the topo maps to my Legend from, I'd be interested in
> > > what everyone else has found. I heard that TOPO! is the only one
> > that
> > > downloads the topo maps to my Legend. Most of the software out there
> > > allows me to upload/download ROUTES and waypoints, but no topo map
> > > information. I thought I saw a separate software program that allows
> > > me to indirectly load the topos, like National Geographic's Arizona
> > > Topo at REI. Has anyone seen this?
> > >
> > > John Rabenius
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Michael Fleigle
> > > Http://members.xoom.com/Fleg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________ _______________
> > > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
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38078 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 4:30pm
Subject: RE: OPTIMA QUESTION
Yellow top is rated SLI (starter, lights, and ignition) as well as being a
deep cycle for heavy winching applications. They make a blue top that is
also rated the same as the yellow, just targeted at the marine/boat market
vs. the off-road crowd.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: msa12171 [mailto:msa12171@a...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:55 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] OPTIMA QUESTION
Which Optima would be best for a TJ with winch, lights, stereo,
etc.? I might be replacing my batt. real soon and would like to know
which one is the most desired for my application. TIA!
Mike A.
"Az_A"
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38079 From: Fred <fredtj@h...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 4:32pm
Subject: Re: OPTIMA QUESTION
One of the two "deep cycle" ones, i.e, the yellow top, or the deep cycle
blue top, are the only two Optima's that you can use with a winch, and not
void the warranty. The red top, and the non-deep cycle blue top are
"starting" type batteries, and aren't made to be drawn down more than
somthing like 3%, like most other car batteries. The deep cycle batteries
can handle being drawn down more and more often.
Cheers,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "msa12171" <msa12171@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:54 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] OPTIMA QUESTION
> Which Optima would be best for a TJ with winch, lights, stereo,
> etc.? I might be replacing my batt. real soon and would like to know
> which one is the most desired for my application. TIA!
>
> Mike A.
> "Az_A"
>
>
>
>
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>
38080 From: <Wapiti49er@a...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 0:01pm
Subject: Re: Optima yellow
Something called batteries.......> Don't know the rest. They only carry batteries of all sorts Watches to cars and cell phones. Bell and Cave Creek Road. I picked up one for my Jeep. I picked up a yellow top for 190. Pricey but it's a deep cycle. I l left my inside lights (3) all day and night and didn't hesitate starting. Todd.
38081 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:06pm
Subject: Re: Optima yellow
Batteries Plus
----- Original Message -----
From: Wapiti49er@aol.com
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Optima yellow
Something called batteries.......> Don't know the rest. They only carry batteries of all sorts Watches to cars and cell phones. Bell and Cave Creek Road. I picked up one for my Jeep. I picked up a yellow top for 190. Pricey but it's a deep cycle. I l left my inside lights (3) all day and night and didn't hesitate starting. Todd.
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38082 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 4:54pm
Subject: Re: FrUsTrAtiOn!!!
Doesn't RE still use factory rubber bushings?
Linda
JNB4PLS@a... wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> I tried ordering RE control arm bushings for my front lowers today since I
> found them to be in as bad a shape as the rears and ran in to the same thing.
> RE is taking phone calls, but won't take orders until the second.
> Unbelievable.
>
> John Butler
>
>
>
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38083 From: Mike & Karen Acuna <macunasprint@e...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:09pm
Subject: rusty's offroad
Has anyone in the group used any of Rusty's Offroad lifts, control arms,
or trackbar?
Any comments?
Thanks, Mike
http://www.rustysoffroad.com/
38084 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:26pm
Subject: RE: Optima yellow
I picked up a Yellow Top for around $150ish or there about at a place called Battery Warehouse (in the yellow pages).
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Wapiti49er@aol.com [mailto:Wapiti49er@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:01 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Optima yellow
Something called batteries.......> Don't know the rest. They only carry batteries of all sorts Watches to cars and cell phones. Bell and Cave Creek Road. I picked up one for my Jeep. I picked up a yellow top for 190. Pricey but it's a deep cycle. I l left my inside lights (3) all day and night and didn't hesitate starting. Todd.
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38085 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:24pm
Subject: RE: Axle Alley Tomorrow
Now no one is going to show!!
Joey K
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Kruize [mailto:]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:04 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; arizonajeep@h...
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
>
>
> I'll be there!
>
> Scott K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stu Olson [mailto:]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:50 AM
> To: arizonajeep@h...
> Cc: az_vjc (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
>
>
> testing Joe's home account
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@h...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:34 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
>
>
> It should be! Try again..
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:28 AM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> >
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > I am getting bounced mail back from: arizonajeep@h...
> >
> > Is that ISP account still valid?
> >
> > Stu
> >
> > Stu Olson
> > www.stu-offroad.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@h...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 9:50 AM
> > To: azvjc (E-mail)
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> >
> >
> > Hi Gang,
> >
> > If you are planning to go on the Axle Alley trip tomorrow,
> > please respond to
> > this email. I'm trying to compile a list of names.
> >
> > Unless anyone has any objections, we'll meet at the Texaco
> in Florence
> > Junction at 10:00am.
> >
> > Joe West
> >
> >
>
38086 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:27pm
Subject: RE: Axle Alley Tomorrow
Bill and I are going straight to the Jamboree camp ground to unload. We
should be there by 9am.
Ross
-----Original Message-----
From: DesertJeep [mailto:joey@d...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:24 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; arizonajeep@h...
Cc: scottkruize@e...; solson8@q...
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
Now no one is going to show!!
Joey K
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Kruize [mailto:]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:04 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; arizonajeep@h...
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
>
>
> I'll be there!
>
> Scott K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stu Olson [mailto:]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:50 AM
> To: arizonajeep@h...
> Cc: az_vjc (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
>
>
> testing Joe's home account
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@h...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:34 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
>
>
> It should be! Try again..
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:28 AM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> >
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > I am getting bounced mail back from: arizonajeep@h...
> >
> > Is that ISP account still valid?
> >
> > Stu
> >
> > Stu Olson
> > www.stu-offroad.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@h...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 9:50 AM
> > To: azvjc (E-mail)
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> >
> >
> > Hi Gang,
> >
> > If you are planning to go on the Axle Alley trip tomorrow,
> > please respond to
> > this email. I'm trying to compile a list of names.
> >
> > Unless anyone has any objections, we'll meet at the Texaco
> in Florence
> > Junction at 10:00am.
> >
> > Joe West
> >
> >
>
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38087 From: Gary Holmes <niitoyis@w...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:37pm
Subject: Re: Re: Does anyone have Garmin's Topo! ?
Jerry:
Have you used Delorme's 3D Topo Quads? They are the actual top maps scanned
in plus Delormes standard data combined. When you get down to the higher
resolutions you get the actual topo maps you would buy at World of Maps.
Works great for me and I have been using Delorme for many years. I have the
3D Topo Quads for the Western United States including Alaska. The only time
I had a problem was with the newest releases on my old Pentium 150 Laptop.
Not enough processing power. My 600 Pentium III laptop works great with it.
Gary Holmes
jsteele1999 wrote:
> I've got Topo!, and I've got Maptech. I tried DeLorme about 6 months
> ago and consider the DeLorme hyped junk. DeLorme does not use real top
> maps and their software is bloated and buggy. I had to try over and
> over again to even get it to load on my laptop.
>
> Topo! software is buggy too. When I take it in the vehicle and use
> automatic tracking with the GPS it either starts giving me faults and
> crashes after a couple of hours or just quits. And the people at Topo
> were downright offensive and rude when I informed them of this (I've
> had this occur on two different computers, one of which I enventually
> formatted c: and re-installed only the operating system and Topo!
> on, to no avail).
>
> So far Maptech is my choice. My only complaint is that Maptech only
> accesses maps via the CD-ROM (it won't look for them on the hard
> drive). I use a third party virtual CD-ROM so I can put one of their
> discs on hard drive. It doesn't autoload it but it's easier than
> changing CD's on the road. But Maptech is reliable and doesn't appear
> to be buggy.
>
> For years my favorite navigation software, which doesn't come with
> maps, has been Fugawi. The fact that it comes on a floppy demonstrates
> that it is lean efficient software (which tends to not be buggy). But
> you have to use Fugawi with either USGS DRG's or your own scanned
> maps.
>
> Jerry
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Baja Fleg" <fleigle@h...> wrote:
> > National Geographic not Garmin makes TOPO!! Garmin has its own
> software
> > called Mapsource and it is the only software that will allow direct
> basemap
> > uploads. Most of the other software setups will allow waypoint and
> route
> > uploads only. I have been told that mapsource is not that good. I
> have
> > used TOPO! made by National Geographic and its good, basically its
> just the
> > USGS maps scanned in. You can get almost the same results from
> OziExplorer
> > but downloading the USGS maps for it can be a bit difficult and time
> > consuming. Another decent software out there is Topo USA 3.0 by
> Delorme. I
> > have used Topo USA 2.0 and found that a lot of the trails are either
> not on
> > it or are not correct. I just ordered Topo USA 3.0 on DVD, I've
> been told
> > that it has an option to add your own roads so that will be nice and
> that a
> > lot of the data has been upgraded. What I do when off-roading is
> connect
> > the my GPS to my laptop and let my passengers direct me by watching
> the
> > screen live update as we go. Works great especially while
> Geocaching.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > I bought a Garmin ETREX Legend, and I want to try out Garmin's TOPO!
> > software before I but it.
> >
> > Does anyone have it?
> >
> > What do you think of it?
> >
> > Has anyone in the club added the routes for the different trails?
> >
> > TOPO! costs $100.00. That's fine, but if there is a better one that
> I
> > can download the topo maps to my Legend from, I'd be interested in
> > what everyone else has found. I heard that TOPO! is the only one
> that
> > downloads the topo maps to my Legend. Most of the software out there
> > allows me to upload/download ROUTES and waypoints, but no topo map
> > information. I thought I saw a separate software program that allows
> > me to indirectly load the topos, like National Geographic's Arizona
> > Topo at REI. Has anyone seen this?
> >
> > John Rabenius
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael Fleigle
> > Http://members.xoom.com/Fleg
> >
> >
> >
> >
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38088 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:38pm
Subject: RE: Axle Alley Tomorrow
Ross,
I'm guessing it will be just you, Bill, Scott Kruze and myself. Scott...
want to meet at my house and go from there?
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ross Skinner [mailto:rskinner@s...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:28 PM
> To: 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
>
>
> Bill and I are going straight to the Jamboree camp ground to
> unload. We
> should be there by 9am.
> Ross
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DesertJeep [mailto:joey@d...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:24 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; arizonajeep@h...
> Cc: scottkruize@e...; solson8@q...
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
>
>
> Now no one is going to show!!
> Joey K
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Kruize [mailto:]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:04 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; arizonajeep@h...
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> >
> >
> > I'll be there!
> >
> > Scott K
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stu Olson [mailto:]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:50 AM
> > To: arizonajeep@h...
> > Cc: az_vjc (E-mail)
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> >
> >
> > testing Joe's home account
> >
> > Stu Olson
> > www.stu-offroad.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@h...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:34 AM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> >
> >
> > It should be! Try again..
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:28 AM
> > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> > >
> > >
> > > Joe,
> > >
> > > I am getting bounced mail back from: arizonajeep@h...
> > >
> > > Is that ISP account still valid?
> > >
> > > Stu
> > >
> > > Stu Olson
> > > www.stu-offroad.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@h...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 9:50 AM
> > > To: azvjc (E-mail)
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Gang,
> > >
> > > If you are planning to go on the Axle Alley trip tomorrow,
> > > please respond to
> > > this email. I'm trying to compile a list of names.
> > >
> > > Unless anyone has any objections, we'll meet at the Texaco
> > in Florence
> > > Junction at 10:00am.
> > >
> > > Joe West
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
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38089 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:39pm
Subject: RE: Re: SYE Install
Smart man Mike... let James be the guinea pig.
<grin>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jeepin_in_az [mailto:jeepin_in_az@y...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 3:36 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: SYE Install
>
>
> We are starting James's at 8:00 am, then after his is done, we are
> going to start on mine.
>
> Mike
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...> wrote:
> >
>
>
>
>
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38090 From: bermboy2000 <bermboy@h...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:38pm
Subject: Re: OPTIMA QUESTION
I think a yellow top would probably be better since you have the
winch but my red top is fine with a/c rocklights, stereo and air
compressor, I guess it depends on houw much use the winch gets.
BTW what is ths "AZ_A" Thing?
--- In az_vjc@y..., "msa12171" <msa12171@a...> wrote:
> Which Optima would be best for a TJ with winch, lights, stereo,
> etc.? I might be replacing my batt. real soon and would like to
know
> which one is the most desired for my application. TIA!
>
> Mike A.
> "Az_A"
38091 From: Gary Holmes <niitoyis@w...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:41pm
Subject: Re: Re: Optima yellow
OK. I replyed to Jon only but here it is.
BAP carries the Optima's in stock. On the West side it is at 23 Ave. and
just North of Camelback on West side of street.
Gary Holmes
jeepin_in_az wrote:
> If anyone replies, do it to the whole group, I am looking for one too.
> Any other items needed to drop in an Optima?
>
> Mike Baney
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...> wrote:
> > My battery is dying quickly. I need a Yellow top before the
> weekend. Anyone
> > know of a good deal? Or, does anyone know who even carries them
> locally?
> > East valley preferred.
> >
> > TIA.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------
> > Jon Loveless
> > (480)816-6240 office AZ
> > jonloveless@m...
> > ___________________________
>
>
>
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38092 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:40pm
Subject: RE: Re: OPTIMA QUESTION
Az_A is Mike's nickname. It stands for Arizona Amoeba.
<laugh>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bermboy2000 [mailto:bermboy@h...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:39 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OPTIMA QUESTION
>
>
> I think a yellow top would probably be better since you have the
> winch but my red top is fine with a/c rocklights, stereo and air
> compressor, I guess it depends on houw much use the winch gets.
>
> BTW what is ths "AZ_A" Thing?
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "msa12171" <msa12171@a...> wrote:
> > Which Optima would be best for a TJ with winch, lights, stereo,
> > etc.? I might be replacing my batt. real soon and would like to
> know
> > which one is the most desired for my application. TIA!
> >
> > Mike A.
> > "Az_A"
>
>
>
>
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>
38093 From: Gary Holmes <niitoyis@w...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:44pm
Subject: Re: Optima yellow
There is one here at 35th Ave. and Glendale too.
Gary Holmes
DougB wrote:
Batteries Plus
----- Original Message -----
From: Wapiti49er@aol.com
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Optima yellow
Something called batteries.......> Don't know the rest. They only carry batteries of all sorts Watches to cars and cell phones. Bell and Cave Creek Road. I picked up one for my Jeep. I picked up a yellow top for 190. Pricey but it's a deep cycle. I l left my inside lights (3) all day and night and didn't hesitate starting. Todd.
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38094 From: bermboy2000 <bermboy@h...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:43pm
Subject: Re: OPTIMA QUESTION
So why does Sharky have it too? Are the Amoebas multiplying? ;p
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...> wrote:
> Az_A is Mike's nickname. It stands for Arizona Amoeba.
> <laugh>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bermboy2000 [mailto:bermboy@h...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:39 PM
> > To: az_vjc@y...
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OPTIMA QUESTION
> >
> >
> > I think a yellow top would probably be better since you have the
> > winch but my red top is fine with a/c rocklights, stereo and air
> > compressor, I guess it depends on houw much use the winch gets.
> >
> > BTW what is ths "AZ_A" Thing?
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "msa12171" <msa12171@a...> wrote:
> > > Which Optima would be best for a TJ with winch, lights, stereo,
> > > etc.? I might be replacing my batt. real soon and would like
to
> > know
> > > which one is the most desired for my application. TIA!
> > >
> > > Mike A.
> > > "Az_A"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
38095 From: Gary Holmes <niitoyis@w...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:46pm
Subject: Re: rusty's offroad
Mike:
I have a Rusty's 4" lift on my '78 Cherokee WT. They were helpful but I did
have a couple of issues. Wrong bushing in front eye of rear springs and
wrong fittings on extended brake lines. Otherwise, great guys to work with
and very helpfull. Product seems to work very well with quick delivery after
ordering.
Gary Holmes
Mike & Karen Acuna wrote:
> Has anyone in the group used any of Rusty's Offroad lifts, control arms,
> or trackbar?
> Any comments?
> Thanks, Mike
> http://www.rustysoffroad.com/
>
>
>
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38096 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:50pm
Subject: Re: rusty's offroad
Not sure about his lift stuff, but a bought what was supposed to be a heavy
duty steering set up from him and it was not good...and basically unsafe.
Kept breaking the double end and it had a tremendously large dead zone in
it. I had gotten other stuff from him, and my general customer service
experience was also not good. Literally took him 3 months to complete a
simple order...and then only after I spent a small fortune in long distance
phone calls. It was really a nightmare. He'd tell me an item (outer TJ D30
stub - not a tough one) was shipped...it wasn't; he'd tell me several weeks
later that it was shipped...it wasn't. This went on and on. When the blessed
day arrived, I opened the box, and it was a YJ 260 stub. Couldn't believe
it. Started the whole process again....took forever. ACK!
He's a real nice guy to talk to, and you want to believe him and you want to
support a small business, but I'll never mess with him again. Too many other
shops out there that have their act together.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Karen Acuna" <macunasprint@e...>
To: "AZVJC AZVJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:09 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] rusty's offroad
> Has anyone in the group used any of Rusty's Offroad lifts, control arms,
> or trackbar?
> Any comments?
> Thanks, Mike
> http://www.rustysoffroad.com/
>
>
>
>
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>
>
38097 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:48pm
Subject: RE: Re: OPTIMA QUESTION
They are a club...
Sort of like the Extreme four Wheelers except the opposite. They like low
and slow.
Come on, you've heard of them haven't you? The ARIZONA AMOEBAS ???
Mike is the leader of the pack.
Or is it the gaggle? Herd? Flock?
(anyone know the name for a bunch of amoebas)?
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bermboy2000 [mailto:bermboy@h...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:44 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OPTIMA QUESTION
>
>
> So why does Sharky have it too? Are the Amoebas multiplying? ;p
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...> wrote:
> > Az_A is Mike's nickname. It stands for Arizona Amoeba.
> > <laugh>
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: bermboy2000 [mailto:bermboy@h...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:39 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OPTIMA QUESTION
> > >
> > >
> > > I think a yellow top would probably be better since you have the
> > > winch but my red top is fine with a/c rocklights, stereo and air
> > > compressor, I guess it depends on houw much use the winch gets.
> > >
> > > BTW what is ths "AZ_A" Thing?
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@y..., "msa12171" <msa12171@a...> wrote:
> > > > Which Optima would be best for a TJ with winch, lights, stereo,
> > > > etc.? I might be replacing my batt. real soon and would like
> to
> > > know
> > > > which one is the most desired for my application. TIA!
> > > >
> > > > Mike A.
> > > > "Az_A"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
>
>
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38098 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:53pm
Subject: Re: Re: OPTIMA QUESTION
Amoebae?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:48 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: OPTIMA QUESTION
> They are a club...
>
> Sort of like the Extreme four Wheelers except the opposite. They like low
> and slow.
> Come on, you've heard of them haven't you? The ARIZONA AMOEBAS ???
> Mike is the leader of the pack.
>
> Or is it the gaggle? Herd? Flock?
> (anyone know the name for a bunch of amoebas)?
>
>
> Joe
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bermboy2000 [mailto:bermboy@h...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:44 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OPTIMA QUESTION
> >
> >
> > So why does Sharky have it too? Are the Amoebas multiplying? ;p
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...> wrote:
> > > Az_A is Mike's nickname. It stands for Arizona Amoeba.
> > > <laugh>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: bermboy2000 [mailto:bermboy@h...]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:39 PM
> > > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OPTIMA QUESTION
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think a yellow top would probably be better since you have the
> > > > winch but my red top is fine with a/c rocklights, stereo and air
> > > > compressor, I guess it depends on houw much use the winch gets.
> > > >
> > > > BTW what is ths "AZ_A" Thing?
> > > >
> > > > --- In az_vjc@y..., "msa12171" <msa12171@a...> wrote:
> > > > > Which Optima would be best for a TJ with winch, lights, stereo,
> > > > > etc.? I might be replacing my batt. real soon and would like
> > to
> > > > know
> > > > > which one is the most desired for my application. TIA!
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike A.
> > > > > "Az_A"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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> >
> >
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38099 From: Marv Miller <mervalt@f...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:48pm
Subject: Re: Re: Does anyone have Garmin's Topo! ?
Gary,
I have Delorme's 3D Top Quads for AZ. It's pretty cool to change the topo's
to 3D so you can almost "feel" the changes in elevation, and check the
terrain of your path.
I have a Garmin eTrex GPS, but I'm hearing on this board that I won't be
able to download stuff from the pc to the GPS unless I get Garmin software?
I haven't been able to figure out the procedure yet. Any info along these
lines?
I haven't had any software probs either, just haven't spent enough time with
it I guess.
TIA
Marv Miller
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Holmes <niitoyis@w...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Does anyone have Garmin's Topo! ?
> Jerry:
>
> Have you used Delorme's 3D Topo Quads? They are the actual top maps
scanned
> in plus Delormes standard data combined. When you get down to the higher
> resolutions you get the actual topo maps you would buy at World of Maps.
> Works great for me and I have been using Delorme for many years. I have
the
> 3D Topo Quads for the Western United States including Alaska. The only
time
> I had a problem was with the newest releases on my old Pentium 150 Laptop.
> Not enough processing power. My 600 Pentium III laptop works great with
it.
>
> Gary Holmes
>
> jsteele1999 wrote:
>
> > I've got Topo!, and I've got Maptech. I tried DeLorme about 6 months
> > ago and consider the DeLorme hyped junk. DeLorme does not use real top
> > maps and their software is bloated and buggy. I had to try over and
> > over again to even get it to load on my laptop.
> >
> > Topo! software is buggy too. When I take it in the vehicle and use
> > automatic tracking with the GPS it either starts giving me faults and
> > crashes after a couple of hours or just quits. And the people at Topo
> > were downright offensive and rude when I informed them of this (I've
> > had this occur on two different computers, one of which I enventually
> > formatted c: and re-installed only the operating system and Topo!
> > on, to no avail).
> >
> > So far Maptech is my choice. My only complaint is that Maptech only
> > accesses maps via the CD-ROM (it won't look for them on the hard
> > drive). I use a third party virtual CD-ROM so I can put one of their
> > discs on hard drive. It doesn't autoload it but it's easier than
> > changing CD's on the road. But Maptech is reliable and doesn't appear
> > to be buggy.
> >
> > For years my favorite navigation software, which doesn't come with
> > maps, has been Fugawi. The fact that it comes on a floppy demonstrates
> > that it is lean efficient software (which tends to not be buggy). But
> > you have to use Fugawi with either USGS DRG's or your own scanned
> > maps.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Baja Fleg" <fleigle@h...> wrote:
> > > National Geographic not Garmin makes TOPO!! Garmin has its own
> > software
> > > called Mapsource and it is the only software that will allow direct
> > basemap
> > > uploads. Most of the other software setups will allow waypoint and
> > route
> > > uploads only. I have been told that mapsource is not that good. I
> > have
> > > used TOPO! made by National Geographic and its good, basically its
> > just the
> > > USGS maps scanned in. You can get almost the same results from
> > OziExplorer
> > > but downloading the USGS maps for it can be a bit difficult and time
> > > consuming. Another decent software out there is Topo USA 3.0 by
> > Delorme. I
> > > have used Topo USA 2.0 and found that a lot of the trails are either
> > not on
> > > it or are not correct. I just ordered Topo USA 3.0 on DVD, I've
> > been told
> > > that it has an option to add your own roads so that will be nice and
> > that a
> > > lot of the data has been upgraded. What I do when off-roading is
> > connect
> > > the my GPS to my laptop and let my passengers direct me by watching
> > the
> > > screen live update as we go. Works great especially while
> > Geocaching.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> > > ----Original Message Follows----
> > > I bought a Garmin ETREX Legend, and I want to try out Garmin's TOPO!
> > > software before I but it.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have it?
> > >
> > > What do you think of it?
> > >
> > > Has anyone in the club added the routes for the different trails?
> > >
> > > TOPO! costs $100.00. That's fine, but if there is a better one that
> > I
> > > can download the topo maps to my Legend from, I'd be interested in
> > > what everyone else has found. I heard that TOPO! is the only one
> > that
> > > downloads the topo maps to my Legend. Most of the software out there
> > > allows me to upload/download ROUTES and waypoints, but no topo map
> > > information. I thought I saw a separate software program that allows
> > > me to indirectly load the topos, like National Geographic's Arizona
> > > Topo at REI. Has anyone seen this?
> > >
> > > John Rabenius
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Michael Fleigle
> > > Http://members.xoom.com/Fleg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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38100 From: ERIC HERRING <ericherring@m...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 5:58pm
Subject: RE: Optima yellow
BAP sells them, and batteries plus or whatever the name is.
Eric Herring 92XJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Loveless [mailto:jonloveless@mindspring.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:01 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Optima yellow
My battery is dying quickly. I need a Yellow top before the weekend. Anyone know of a good deal? Or, does anyone know who even carries them locally? East valley preferred.
TIA.
Jon
------------------------------------------
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(480)816-6240 office AZ
jonloveless@mindspring.com
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38101 From: Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 6:03pm
Subject: RE: Axle Alley Tomorrow
Joe,
Sure thing. I have idea where the campground is. I hope you do.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@h...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:38 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
Ross,
I'm guessing it will be just you, Bill, Scott Kruze and myself. Scott...
want to meet at my house and go from there?
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ross Skinner [mailto:rskinner@s...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:28 PM
> To: 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
>
>
> Bill and I are going straight to the Jamboree camp ground to
> unload. We
> should be there by 9am.
> Ross
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DesertJeep [mailto:joey@d...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:24 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; arizonajeep@h...
> Cc: scottkruize@e...; solson8@q...
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
>
>
> Now no one is going to show!!
> Joey K
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Kruize [mailto:]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:04 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; arizonajeep@h...
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> >
> >
> > I'll be there!
> >
> > Scott K
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stu Olson [mailto:]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:50 AM
> > To: arizonajeep@h...
> > Cc: az_vjc (E-mail)
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> >
> >
> > testing Joe's home account
> >
> > Stu Olson
> > www.stu-offroad.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@h...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:34 AM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> >
> >
> > It should be! Try again..
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:28 AM
> > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> > >
> > >
> > > Joe,
> > >
> > > I am getting bounced mail back from: arizonajeep@h...
> > >
> > > Is that ISP account still valid?
> > >
> > > Stu
> > >
> > > Stu Olson
> > > www.stu-offroad.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@h...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 9:50 AM
> > > To: azvjc (E-mail)
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Axle Alley Tomorrow
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Gang,
> > >
> > > If you are planning to go on the Axle Alley trip tomorrow,
> > > please respond to
> > > this email. I'm trying to compile a list of names.
> > >
> > > Unless anyone has any objections, we'll meet at the Texaco
> > in Florence
> > > Junction at 10:00am.
> > >
> > > Joe West
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
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38102 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Wed Dec 26, 2001 6:07pm
Subject: RE: Re: Does anyone have Garmin's Topo! ?
Garmin GPS receivers allows upload/download of waypoints, routes, and tracks
from any software that can speak Garmin....lots of them can do that.
Only Garmin markets software that can enhance the map data in the GPS
receiver. Delorme, OziExplorer, etc. will NOT supplement the map data in
the receiver. For that, you will need one of various MapSource (made my
Garmin) products....they have a variety of them and can be found on their
web site.
From the sounds of it, I think you folks might have enjoyed the GPS class we
had earlier this month.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Marv Miller [mailto:mervalt@f...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:48 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Does anyone have Garmin's Topo! ?
Gary,
I have Delorme's 3D Top Quads for AZ. It's pretty cool to change the topo's
to 3D so you can almost "feel" the changes in elevation, and check the
terrain of your path.
I have a Garmin eTrex GPS, but I'm hearing on this board that I won't be
able to download stuff from the pc to the GPS unless I get Garmin software?
I haven't been able to figure out the procedure yet. Any info along these
lines?
I haven't had any software probs either, just haven't spent enough time with
it I guess.
TIA
Marv Miller
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Holmes <niitoyis@w...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Does anyone have Garmin's Topo! ?
> Jerry:
>
> Have you used Delorme's 3D Topo Quads? They are the actual top maps
scanned
> in plus Delormes standard data combined. When you get down to the higher
> resolutions you get the actual topo maps you would buy at World of Maps.
> Works great for me and I have been using Delorme for many years. I have
the
> 3D Topo Quads for the Western United States including Alaska. The only
time
> I had a problem was with the newest releases on my old Pentium 150 Laptop.
> Not enough processing power. My 600 Pentium III laptop works great with
it.
>
> Gary Holmes
>
> jsteele1999 wrote:
>
> > I've got Topo!, and I've got Maptech. I tried DeLorme about 6 months
> > ago and consider the DeLorme hyped junk. DeLorme does not use real top
> > maps and their software is bloated and buggy. I had to try over and
> > over again to even get it to load on my laptop.
> >
> > Topo! software is buggy too. When I take it in the vehicle and use
> > automatic tracking with the GPS it either starts giving me faults and
> > crashes after a couple of hours or just quits. And the people at Topo
> > were downright offensive and rude when I informed them of this (I've
> > had this occur on two different computers, one of which I enventually
> > formatted c: and re-installed only the operating system and Topo!
> > on, to no avail).
> >
> > So far Maptech is my choice. My only complaint is that Maptech only
> > accesses maps via the CD-ROM (it won't look for them on the hard
> > drive). I use a third party virtual CD-ROM so I can put one of their
> > discs on hard drive. It doesn't autoload it but it's easier than
> > changing CD's on the road. But Maptech is reliable and doesn't appear
> > to be buggy.
> >
> > For years my favorite navigation software, which doesn't come with
> > maps, has been Fugawi. The fact that it comes on a floppy demonstrates
> > that it is lean efficient software (which tends to not be buggy). But
> > you have to use Fugawi with either USGS DRG's or your own scanned
> > maps.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Baja Fleg" <fleigle@h...> wrote:
> > > National Geographic not Garmin makes TOPO!! Garmin has its own
> > software
> > > called Mapsource and it is the only software that will allow direct
> > basemap
> > > uploads. Most of the other software setups will allow waypoint and
> > route
> > > uploads only. I have been told that mapsource is not that good. I
> > have
> > > used TOPO! made by National Geographic and its good, basically its
> > just the
> > > USGS maps scanned in. You can get almost the same results from
> > OziExplorer
> > > but downloading the USGS maps for it can be a bit difficult and time
> > > consuming. Another decent software out there is Topo USA 3.0 by
> > Delorme. I
> > > have used Topo USA 2.0 and found that a lot of the trails are either
> > not on
> > > it or are not correct. I just ordered Topo USA 3.0 on DVD, I've
> > been told
> > > that it has an option to add your own roads so that will be nice and
> > that a
> > > lot of the data has been upgraded. What I do when off-roading is
> > connect
> > > the my GPS to my laptop and let my passengers direct me by watching
> > the
> > > screen live update as we go. Works great especially while
> > Geocaching.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> > > ----Original Message Follows----
> > > I bought a Garmin ETREX Legend, and I want to try out Garmin's TOPO!
> > > software before I but it.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have it?
> > >
> > > What do you think of it?
> > >
> > > Has anyone in the club added the routes for the different trails?
> > >
> > > TOPO! costs $100.00. That's fine, but if there is a better one that
> > I
> > > can download the topo maps to my Legend from, I'd be interested in
> > > what everyone else has found. I heard that TOPO! is the only one
> > that
> > > downloads the topo maps to my Legend. Most of the software out there
> > > allows me to upload/download ROUTES and waypoints, but no topo map
> > > information. I thought I saw a separate software program that allows
> > > me to indirectly load the topos, like National Geographic's Arizona
> > > Topo at REI. Has anyone seen this?
> > >
> > > John Rabenius
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Michael Fleigle
> > > Http://members.xoom.com/Fleg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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