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37877 From: Beckham, Michael <Michael.Beckham@b...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 7:35am
Subject: RE: So what did everyone get for christmas
I was truly surprised that my wife got me a set of JKS disconnects!
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Harmon [mailto:xjnation@h...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 8:33 AM
To: arizonaXJ@yahoogroups.com; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] So what did everyone get for christmas
OK all,
Meryy christmas......my family is still asleep and I want o know what
goodies jSanta brought you all for Christmas
Brian Harmon
88 XJ Laredo
http://www.cherokee-nation.com
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37878 From: Bruce C. Anderson <bcanderson@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 7:42am
Subject: Re: So what did everyone get for christmas
Howdy
I got a Jumper Battery. Now I don't have to install a second battery :)
See Ya
Have Fun
Bruce
www.cableone.net/bcanderson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Harmon" <xjnation@h...>
To: <arizonaXJ@yahoogroups.com>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 8:32 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] So what did everyone get for christmas
> OK all,
>
> Meryy christmas......my family is still asleep and I want o know what
> goodies jSanta brought you all for Christmas
>
>
> Brian Harmon
> 88 XJ Laredo
> http://www.cherokee-nation.com
>
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37879 From: Ralph Williams <ralphbw@q...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 7:58am
Subject: Re: So what did everyone get for christmas
Ruger Mini-14 Ranch rifle with a laminated wood stock.
Flourescent Coleman lantern for camping.
16" scroll saw.
No Jeep stuff. :( although the rifle and lantern will be in the
jeep sometimes.
Ralph
Brian Harmon wrote:
>
> OK all,
>
> Meryy christmas......my family is still asleep and I want o know what
> goodies jSanta brought you all for Christmas
>
> Brian Harmon
> 88 XJ Laredo
> http://www.cherokee-nation.com
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37880 From: Ralph Williams <ralphbw@q...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 8:08am
Subject: Re: Re: Exploring
Tim,
I am in Tucson also and have done a little knocking about in that
area. Would like to get together sometime for a trip or two. Have
an offroad tent trailer and we are always up for camping, work
schedules permitting.
Rosemont Junction area is where I usually go, I have heard that
the road over Gunsight Pass is washed out recently and you can't
go over it anymore. I didn't actually drive up there when we were
there to watch the Leonid meteor shower a few weeks ago.
Have laptop mounted in the jeep with OziExplorer and USGS topos
of most of SE 1/4 of AZ. Can document our explorations. Have you
been to the Onyx Cave? I see it on the map, have never been to it
although I have heard about it.
Looking forward to a trip,
Ralph
sanfordtm@a... wrote:
>
> I go down there often. I am here in Tucson, give me a call some
> time.
>
> (520) 320-5858
>
> Tim
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37881 From: Brian Harmon <xjnation@h...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 8:10am
Subject: Re: So what did everyone get for christmas
Hey Guys,
My kids finally got up and I got a ARB snorkel kit for the XJ!
and a cool vest
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Brian Harmon" <xjnation@h...>
Reply-To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
To: arizonaXJ@yahoogroups.com, az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] So what did everyone get for christmas
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 08:32:32 -0700
OK all,
Meryy christmas......my family is still asleep and I want o know what
goodies jSanta brought you all for Christmas
Brian Harmon
88 XJ Laredo
http://www.cherokee-nation.com
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37882 From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 8:10am
Subject: Re: Fw: New poll for az_vjc
Hi Doug,
Changing the reply part of the message wouldn't mean that you can't reply
directly to the message poster, you'd still have that option by clicking on
the 'to' part of the message and choosing the sender. I think it's fair to
say that most of the people most of the time want to reply to the entire
group. It's easier to change it to the individual posters address for the
few times when you want to do so and will hopefully save most folks a bit
of trouble.
I've just now noticed that I didn't have to change the address to the
group, so I guess the list moderator must have changed it already......Thanks!
Shaun
South Korea
>Turn it off. I like being able to reply individually to an author...rather
>than have everything go to the group. My 2 cents. I'll vote on the poll
>early and often.
>
>Doug
37883 From: <ldoctor1957@a...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 3:30am
Subject: Re: Exploring
Sounds interesting count me in.
Jim ( Crusher ) Lambertus
37884 From: <ldoctor1957@a...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 3:32am
Subject: Re: Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas and a great New Year to you too Mike.
Jim ( Crusher ) L
37885 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 8:38am
Subject: Re: Fw: New poll for az_vjc
Doesn't work that way for me. Using Outlook Express (w/ the preview off),
when I hit reply to sender, it doesn't go the sender, but to the whole
group. To reply to the sender now, I have to save the person's addy in my
address book and go from there. Kind of a drag.
This, IMO, will lead to a lot more junk on the list. Before, it was a simple
matter of hitting "reply to all" when I wanted a note to go to the group.
Pretty simple. Now, we'll get all the e-mail. Not a good plan, IMO....
Just my 2 cents.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "imagineero" <imagineero@x...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [az_vjc] New poll for az_vjc
> Hi Doug,
> Changing the reply part of the message wouldn't mean that you can't reply
> directly to the message poster, you'd still have that option by clicking
on
> the 'to' part of the message and choosing the sender. I think it's fair
to
> say that most of the people most of the time want to reply to the entire
> group. It's easier to change it to the individual posters address for the
> few times when you want to do so and will hopefully save most folks a bit
> of trouble.
>
> I've just now noticed that I didn't have to change the address to the
> group, so I guess the list moderator must have changed it
already......Thanks!
>
> Shaun
> South Korea
>
> >Turn it off. I like being able to reply individually to an
author...rather
> >than have everything go to the group. My 2 cents. I'll vote on the poll
> >early and often.
> >
> >Doug
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
37886 From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 8:24am
Subject: Re: Keeping up with the nieghbor's TJ!
Hi Linda,
I've seen these things before in many different guises, some better than
others. A company called quadraflate used to make something similar, now a
bloke named Roger Brown is making something called 4air which is designed
specifically for 4wheeldrives. He offers a lot of custom deals and
accessories to tailor it to suit your needs, plus it only costs about half
what this one does. These types of charging manifolds can have good uses,
they can equalize tire pressure, save your *** if you air don one tire too
far, save time and effort etc..... I plan on building one myself, though if
I lived in the states I'd probably buy one...... The address is;
http://4crawler.cruiserpages.com/4x4/ForSale/4air.shtml
It's worth reading, it's a good write up. This guy runs a web page for 4
runners, but his page has a lot of great tips that can be applied to any
4x4. The basic site address is;
http://4crawler.cruiserpages.com/4Runner.shtml
You can spend literally hours reading at this site, there's so much info
there. I especially recommend clicking on 'cheap tricks' and '4x4 links'
each of which is a web page in it's own right. I've learned a lot of stuff
at this site, I also learned about tire siping and have since siped my own
(baja claws) with very satisfactory results.....
Shaun
South Korea
>Here's something for those who just don't have enough widgets and gizmos
>in their Jeeps. It's called a Tire Squid. Enjoy!
>
>http://www.clparts.com/amotorsports.html
>
>Linda
37887 From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 8:30am
Subject: welding diff's?
I've read a lot of good write-ups on welding diff's for a sort of large
cumbersome spool. The result is a completely locked axle that can't be
unlocked. There's a good write up here;
http://www.alloffroad.com/issue/2000/october/contents/lincon_locker.htm
I've got Dana 44's front and rear, plus manual locking hubs, so I was
really thinking about welding my front diff. I can buy a spare for about
$50, so I'd probably buy the spare, weld that and then install it. Most of
my trouble offroading comes not from hill climbing, but getting stuck on
more or less level ground, in mud, in gravel, in rivers etc, so I think I'd
get quite a lot of benefit from a front locker. If I ever had trouble
going uphill I could always try it in reverse ;-) The cheapest locker
available over here is the lock-right, at about US$400 not including
installation. This makes a welded locker seem attractive.
I'd really love to hear from anyone who's done something like this (how
about you Linda?). Is the effect on steering *really* that bad when locked?
Thanks,
Shaun
South Korea
37888 From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 8:36am
Subject: Re: Fw: New poll for az_vjc
That's a good point, and one I hadn't really thought of. I'm subscribed to
a lot of newsgroups, about a half dozen and wading through the several
hundred messages each day takes up some of my time. I can't say that I've
noticed a worse noise to content ratio on any of the other groups, and they
all use the 'reply to all' as default. I wonder how many members are
reading and replying to mail using the yahoo page...... All the other
groups I am on use majordomo so they don't have a web interface.. FWIW,
there's a work around that I've found usable when you want to reply just to
the author (though it's hardly an elegant method); Choose 'Forward' and
when the box pops up it contains the sender's address in the body of the
text. Cut and copy to the 'in' field.
As an aside, I've found Eudora to be a friendlier easier to use mail
program than outlook.
Shaun
South Korea
>Doesn't work that way for me. Using Outlook Express (w/ the preview off),
>when I hit reply to sender, it doesn't go the sender, but to the whole
>group. To reply to the sender now, I have to save the person's addy in my
>address book and go from there. Kind of a drag.
>
>This, IMO, will lead to a lot more junk on the list. Before, it was a simple
>matter of hitting "reply to all" when I wanted a note to go to the group.
>Pretty simple. Now, we'll get all the e-mail. Not a good plan, IMO....
>
>Just my 2 cents.
>
>Doug
37889 From: Beckham, Michael <Michael.Beckham@b...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 8:49am
Subject: RE: welding diff's?
Shaun, I welded my REAR diff almost a year ago....I'm not changing a thing.
Yes it chirps in the parking lot, and I probably get more wear, but the
handling is consistent, and there are no surprises. You get used to it, and
forget it. I would not weld the front, as it would greatly affect steering,
especially for a street ride. The back I don't notice unless I'm doing
tight corners in a parking lot.
Just keep an eye on the fluid, and while you have the cover off, look at the
welds. I had mine done by a pro, and no changes, in spite of many fairly
rough roads, not to mention the many street miles, which are probably harder
on the diff than anything off road.
Think it over carefully, it's a one-way decision.
-----Original Message-----
From: imagineero [mailto:imagineero@x...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 9:30 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] welding diff's?
I've read a lot of good write-ups on welding diff's for a sort of large
cumbersome spool. The result is a completely locked axle that can't be
unlocked. There's a good write up here;
http://www.alloffroad.com/issue/2000/october/contents/lincon_locker.htm
I've got Dana 44's front and rear, plus manual locking hubs, so I was
really thinking about welding my front diff. I can buy a spare for about
$50, so I'd probably buy the spare, weld that and then install it. Most of
my trouble offroading comes not from hill climbing, but getting stuck on
more or less level ground, in mud, in gravel, in rivers etc, so I think I'd
get quite a lot of benefit from a front locker. If I ever had trouble
going uphill I could always try it in reverse ;-) The cheapest locker
available over here is the lock-right, at about US$400 not including
installation. This makes a welded locker seem attractive.
I'd really love to hear from anyone who's done something like this (how
about you Linda?). Is the effect on steering *really* that bad when locked?
Thanks,
Shaun
South Korea
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37890 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 8:40am
Subject: Re: So what did everyone get for christmas
Merry Xmas!
Steve surprised me with a new 3/8" drill, an air ratchet, and a dog bone
creeper. Way cool stuff!
Linda
Brian Harmon wrote:
>
> OK all,
>
> Meryy christmas......my family is still asleep and I want o know what
> goodies jSanta brought you all for Christmas
>
> Brian Harmon
> 88 XJ Laredo
> http://www.cherokee-nation.com
>
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37891 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 9:02am
Subject: Re: So what did everyone get for christmas
I got a new Jeep!.....remote control, 4x4.... Anyone know where I can get
lockers for it??
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "linda luik" <minihummer@w...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: <arizonaXJ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] So what did everyone get for christmas
> Merry Xmas!
>
> Steve surprised me with a new 3/8" drill, an air ratchet, and a dog bone
> creeper. Way cool stuff!
>
> Linda
>
> Brian Harmon wrote:
> >
> > OK all,
> >
> > Meryy christmas......my family is still asleep and I want o know what
> > goodies jSanta brought you all for Christmas
> >
> > Brian Harmon
> > 88 XJ Laredo
> > http://www.cherokee-nation.com
> >
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37892 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 8:44am
Subject: Re: Keeping up with the nieghbor's TJ!
Ah.... That 4Runner site is where I got the idea to make my own hot
water heat exchanger! I made one for less than $100. They sell for over
$300. Great site!
Linda
imagineero wrote:
>
>
> It's worth reading, it's a good write up. This guy runs a web page for 4
> runners, but his page has a lot of great tips that can be applied to any
> 4x4. The basic site address is;
>
> http://4crawler.cruiserpages.com/4Runner.shtml
>
> You can spend literally hours reading at this site, there's so much info
> there. I especially recommend clicking on 'cheap tricks' and '4x4 links'
> each of which is a web page in it's own right. I've learned a lot of stuff
> at this site, I also learned about tire siping and have since siped my own
> (baja claws) with very satisfactory results.....
>
37893 From: jetowle2000 <jetowle2000@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 9:00am
Subject: Re: So what did everyone get for christmas
LOL, a SYE...
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Brian Harmon" <xjnation@h...> wrote:
> OK all,
>
> Meryy christmas......my family is still asleep and I want o know
what
> goodies jSanta brought you all for Christmas
>
>
> Brian Harmon
> 88 XJ Laredo
> http://www.cherokee-nation.com
>
>
> __________________________________________________ _______________
> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at
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37894 From: jetowle2000 <jetowle2000@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 9:01am
Subject: Re: So what did everyone get for christmas
Cool, joining the ranks of the breathers.
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Brian Harmon" <xjnation@h...> wrote:
> Hey Guys,
>
> My kids finally got up and I got a ARB snorkel kit for the XJ!
>
> and a cool vest
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Brian Harmon" <xjnation@h...>
> Reply-To: az_vjc@y...
> To: arizonaXJ@y..., az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] So what did everyone get for christmas
> Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 08:32:32 -0700
>
> OK all,
>
> Meryy christmas......my family is still asleep and I want o know
what
> goodies jSanta brought you all for Christmas
>
>
> Brian Harmon
> 88 XJ Laredo
> http://www.cherokee-nation.com
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> Brian Harmon
> 88 XJ Laredo
> http://www.cherokee-nation.com
> Hey guys,
>
>
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37895 From: Ralph Williams <ralphbw@q...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 9:07am
Subject: Re: Keeping up with the nieghbor's TJ!
How did that work out? Never did hear the final result.
Ralph
linda luik wrote:
>
> Ah.... That 4Runner site is where I got the idea to make my own hot
> water heat exchanger! I made one for less than $100. They sell for over
> $300. Great site!
>
> Linda
>
<snip>
37896 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 9:13am
Subject: RE: So what did everyone get for christmas
Doug, I think you will have to do a Lincoln locker on it. ;) Perhaps a bit
of super glue in the diff will do the trick? LOL
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 10:02 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] So what did everyone get for christmas
I got a new Jeep!.....remote control, 4x4.... Anyone know where I can get
lockers for it??
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "linda luik" <minihummer@w...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: <arizonaXJ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] So what did everyone get for christmas
> Merry Xmas!
>
> Steve surprised me with a new 3/8" drill, an air ratchet, and a dog bone
> creeper. Way cool stuff!
>
> Linda
>
> Brian Harmon wrote:
> >
> > OK all,
> >
> > Meryy christmas......my family is still asleep and I want o know what
> > goodies jSanta brought you all for Christmas
> >
> > Brian Harmon
> > 88 XJ Laredo
> > http://www.cherokee-nation.com
> >
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37897 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 9:21am
Subject: Re: So what did everyone get for christmas
Super glue!!! Why didn't I think of that..... :o)
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 10:13 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] So what did everyone get for christmas
> Doug, I think you will have to do a Lincoln locker on it. ;) Perhaps a
bit
> of super glue in the diff will do the trick? LOL
>
> Stu
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 10:02 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] So what did everyone get for christmas
>
>
> I got a new Jeep!.....remote control, 4x4.... Anyone know where I can
get
> lockers for it??
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "linda luik" <minihummer@w...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: <arizonaXJ@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 9:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] So what did everyone get for christmas
>
>
> > Merry Xmas!
> >
> > Steve surprised me with a new 3/8" drill, an air ratchet, and a dog bone
> > creeper. Way cool stuff!
> >
> > Linda
> >
> > Brian Harmon wrote:
> > >
> > > OK all,
> > >
> > > Meryy christmas......my family is still asleep and I want o know what
> > > goodies jSanta brought you all for Christmas
> > >
> > > Brian Harmon
> > > 88 XJ Laredo
> > > http://www.cherokee-nation.com
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37898 From: jetowle2000 <jetowle2000@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 9:21am
Subject: Re: So what did everyone get for christmas
Oh yeah, I forgot, she got a 10K gold and diamond ring....
Man those Jeep parts are expensive.
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., "jetowle2000" <jetowle2000@y...> wrote:
>
> LOL, a SYE...
>
> --James
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Brian Harmon" <xjnation@h...> wrote:
> > OK all,
> >
> > Meryy christmas......my family is still asleep and I want o know
> what
> > goodies jSanta brought you all for Christmas
> >
> >
> > Brian Harmon
> > 88 XJ Laredo
> > http://www.cherokee-nation.com
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________ _______________
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37899 From: <SKYDIVEMAT@a...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 4:21am
Subject: Re: So what did everyone get for christmas
Doug,
Depending on the model, (most of them came stock with a locker).
Matt McKeon
95 ZJ
37900 From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 9:13am
Subject: RE: welding diff's?
Hi Michael,
Thanks for the reply, you made some good points..... I'd never thought it
would be possible to run a permanent locker in the rear full time while on
road! I'd heard it was a trail only type proposition. If I was going to
run a rear locker (which I hope to do sometime mid next year) then I think
I'll go with a detroit.
If you noticed in my message before I said that I have manual locking hubs
up, so with the hubs unlocked and in 2WD mode the front locker would be
taken out of the equation and road handling should be normal (am I missing
something hear?). I'd only engage the hub locks off road. This could end
up being kind of a bummer in a way too..... in winter I like to leave my
hubs locked all the time so I don't have to get out of the cab to engage
them for snow or whatever. If I were to go with a welded locker (which I
think I will) then I'd have to lock and unlock them *every time*. That
said, what do you think the offroad handling would be like?
I plan on buying a second hand diff and welding that, so if it turns out
being a very bad think I can always just put my original diff back in and
have lost only $50 plus some of my time....
Shaun
South Korea
>Shaun, I welded my REAR diff almost a year ago....I'm not changing a thing.
>Yes it chirps in the parking lot, and I probably get more wear, but the
>handling is consistent, and there are no surprises. You get used to it, and
>forget it. I would not weld the front, as it would greatly affect steering,
>especially for a street ride. The back I don't notice unless I'm doing
>tight corners in a parking lot.
>Just keep an eye on the fluid, and while you have the cover off, look at the
>welds. I had mine done by a pro, and no changes, in spite of many fairly
>rough roads, not to mention the many street miles, which are probably harder
>on the diff than anything off road.
>Think it over carefully, it's a one-way decision.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: imagineero [mailto:imagineero@x...]
>Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 9:30 AM
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] welding diff's?
>
>
>I've read a lot of good write-ups on welding diff's for a sort of large
>cumbersome spool. The result is a completely locked axle that can't be
>unlocked. There's a good write up here;
>
>http://www.alloffroad.com/issue/2000/october/contents/lincon_locker.htm
>
>I've got Dana 44's front and rear, plus manual locking hubs, so I was
>really thinking about welding my front diff. I can buy a spare for about
>$50, so I'd probably buy the spare, weld that and then install it. Most of
>my trouble offroading comes not from hill climbing, but getting stuck on
>more or less level ground, in mud, in gravel, in rivers etc, so I think I'd
>get quite a lot of benefit from a front locker. If I ever had trouble
>going uphill I could always try it in reverse ;-) The cheapest locker
>available over here is the lock-right, at about US$400 not including
>installation. This makes a welded locker seem attractive.
>
>I'd really love to hear from anyone who's done something like this (how
>about you Linda?). Is the effect on steering *really* that bad when locked?
>
>Thanks,
>Shaun
>South Korea
37901 From: Beckham, Michael <Michael.Beckham@b...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 9:42am
Subject: RE: welding diff's?
Whoops! Missed that part! that would make a difference. (ya mean I gotta
read ALL the words?)
-----Original Message-----
From: imagineero [mailto:imagineero@x...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 10:13 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] welding diff's?
Hi Michael,
Thanks for the reply, you made some good points..... I'd never thought it
would be possible to run a permanent locker in the rear full time while on
road! I'd heard it was a trail only type proposition. If I was going to
run a rear locker (which I hope to do sometime mid next year) then I think
I'll go with a detroit.
If you noticed in my message before I said that I have manual locking hubs
up, so with the hubs unlocked and in 2WD mode the front locker would be
taken out of the equation and road handling should be normal (am I missing
something hear?). I'd only engage the hub locks off road. This could end
up being kind of a bummer in a way too..... in winter I like to leave my
hubs locked all the time so I don't have to get out of the cab to engage
them for snow or whatever. If I were to go with a welded locker (which I
think I will) then I'd have to lock and unlock them *every time*. That
said, what do you think the offroad handling would be like?
I plan on buying a second hand diff and welding that, so if it turns out
being a very bad think I can always just put my original diff back in and
have lost only $50 plus some of my time....
Shaun
South Korea
>Shaun, I welded my REAR diff almost a year ago....I'm not changing a thing.
>Yes it chirps in the parking lot, and I probably get more wear, but the
>handling is consistent, and there are no surprises. You get used to it, and
>forget it. I would not weld the front, as it would greatly affect
steering,
>especially for a street ride. The back I don't notice unless I'm doing
>tight corners in a parking lot.
>Just keep an eye on the fluid, and while you have the cover off, look at
the
>welds. I had mine done by a pro, and no changes, in spite of many fairly
>rough roads, not to mention the many street miles, which are probably
harder
>on the diff than anything off road.
>Think it over carefully, it's a one-way decision.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: imagineero [mailto:imagineero@x...]
>Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 9:30 AM
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] welding diff's?
>
>
>I've read a lot of good write-ups on welding diff's for a sort of large
>cumbersome spool. The result is a completely locked axle that can't be
>unlocked. There's a good write up here;
>
>http://www.alloffroad.com/issue/2000/october/contents/lincon_locker.htm
>
>I've got Dana 44's front and rear, plus manual locking hubs, so I was
>really thinking about welding my front diff. I can buy a spare for about
>$50, so I'd probably buy the spare, weld that and then install it. Most of
>my trouble offroading comes not from hill climbing, but getting stuck on
>more or less level ground, in mud, in gravel, in rivers etc, so I think I'd
>get quite a lot of benefit from a front locker. If I ever had trouble
>going uphill I could always try it in reverse ;-) The cheapest locker
>available over here is the lock-right, at about US$400 not including
>installation. This makes a welded locker seem attractive.
>
>I'd really love to hear from anyone who's done something like this (how
>about you Linda?). Is the effect on steering *really* that bad when
locked?
>
>Thanks,
>Shaun
>South Korea
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37877 From: Beckham, Michael <Michael.Beckham@b...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 7:35am
Subject: RE: So what did everyone get for christmas
I was truly surprised that my wife got me a set of JKS disconnects!
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Harmon [mailto:xjnation@h...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 8:33 AM
To: arizonaXJ@yahoogroups.com; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] So what did everyone get for christmas
OK all,
Meryy christmas......my family is still asleep and I want o know what
goodies jSanta brought you all for Christmas
Brian Harmon
88 XJ Laredo
http://www.cherokee-nation.com
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37878 From: Bruce C. Anderson <bcanderson@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 7:42am
Subject: Re: So what did everyone get for christmas
Howdy
I got a Jumper Battery. Now I don't have to install a second battery :)
See Ya
Have Fun
Bruce
www.cableone.net/bcanderson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Harmon" <xjnation@h...>
To: <arizonaXJ@yahoogroups.com>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 8:32 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] So what did everyone get for christmas
> OK all,
>
> Meryy christmas......my family is still asleep and I want o know what
> goodies jSanta brought you all for Christmas
>
>
> Brian Harmon
> 88 XJ Laredo
> http://www.cherokee-nation.com
>
>
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>
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37879 From: Ralph Williams <ralphbw@q...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 7:58am
Subject: Re: So what did everyone get for christmas
Ruger Mini-14 Ranch rifle with a laminated wood stock.
Flourescent Coleman lantern for camping.
16" scroll saw.
No Jeep stuff. :( although the rifle and lantern will be in the
jeep sometimes.
Ralph
Brian Harmon wrote:
>
> OK all,
>
> Meryy christmas......my family is still asleep and I want o know what
> goodies jSanta brought you all for Christmas
>
> Brian Harmon
> 88 XJ Laredo
> http://www.cherokee-nation.com
>
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37880 From: Ralph Williams <ralphbw@q...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 8:08am
Subject: Re: Re: Exploring
Tim,
I am in Tucson also and have done a little knocking about in that
area. Would like to get together sometime for a trip or two. Have
an offroad tent trailer and we are always up for camping, work
schedules permitting.
Rosemont Junction area is where I usually go, I have heard that
the road over Gunsight Pass is washed out recently and you can't
go over it anymore. I didn't actually drive up there when we were
there to watch the Leonid meteor shower a few weeks ago.
Have laptop mounted in the jeep with OziExplorer and USGS topos
of most of SE 1/4 of AZ. Can document our explorations. Have you
been to the Onyx Cave? I see it on the map, have never been to it
although I have heard about it.
Looking forward to a trip,
Ralph
sanfordtm@a... wrote:
>
> I go down there often. I am here in Tucson, give me a call some
> time.
>
> (520) 320-5858
>
> Tim
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37881 From: Brian Harmon <xjnation@h...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 8:10am
Subject: Re: So what did everyone get for christmas
Hey Guys,
My kids finally got up and I got a ARB snorkel kit for the XJ!
and a cool vest
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Brian Harmon" <xjnation@h...>
Reply-To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
To: arizonaXJ@yahoogroups.com, az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] So what did everyone get for christmas
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 08:32:32 -0700
OK all,
Meryy christmas......my family is still asleep and I want o know what
goodies jSanta brought you all for Christmas
Brian Harmon
88 XJ Laredo
http://www.cherokee-nation.com
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37882 From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 8:10am
Subject: Re: Fw: New poll for az_vjc
Hi Doug,
Changing the reply part of the message wouldn't mean that you can't reply
directly to the message poster, you'd still have that option by clicking on
the 'to' part of the message and choosing the sender. I think it's fair to
say that most of the people most of the time want to reply to the entire
group. It's easier to change it to the individual posters address for the
few times when you want to do so and will hopefully save most folks a bit
of trouble.
I've just now noticed that I didn't have to change the address to the
group, so I guess the list moderator must have changed it already......Thanks!
Shaun
South Korea
>Turn it off. I like being able to reply individually to an author...rather
>than have everything go to the group. My 2 cents. I'll vote on the poll
>early and often.
>
>Doug
37883 From: <ldoctor1957@a...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 3:30am
Subject: Re: Exploring
Sounds interesting count me in.
Jim ( Crusher ) Lambertus
37884 From: <ldoctor1957@a...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 3:32am
Subject: Re: Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas and a great New Year to you too Mike.
Jim ( Crusher ) L
37885 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 8:38am
Subject: Re: Fw: New poll for az_vjc
Doesn't work that way for me. Using Outlook Express (w/ the preview off),
when I hit reply to sender, it doesn't go the sender, but to the whole
group. To reply to the sender now, I have to save the person's addy in my
address book and go from there. Kind of a drag.
This, IMO, will lead to a lot more junk on the list. Before, it was a simple
matter of hitting "reply to all" when I wanted a note to go to the group.
Pretty simple. Now, we'll get all the e-mail. Not a good plan, IMO....
Just my 2 cents.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "imagineero" <imagineero@x...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [az_vjc] New poll for az_vjc
> Hi Doug,
> Changing the reply part of the message wouldn't mean that you can't reply
> directly to the message poster, you'd still have that option by clicking
on
> the 'to' part of the message and choosing the sender. I think it's fair
to
> say that most of the people most of the time want to reply to the entire
> group. It's easier to change it to the individual posters address for the
> few times when you want to do so and will hopefully save most folks a bit
> of trouble.
>
> I've just now noticed that I didn't have to change the address to the
> group, so I guess the list moderator must have changed it
already......Thanks!
>
> Shaun
> South Korea
>
> >Turn it off. I like being able to reply individually to an
author...rather
> >than have everything go to the group. My 2 cents. I'll vote on the poll
> >early and often.
> >
> >Doug
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
37886 From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 8:24am
Subject: Re: Keeping up with the nieghbor's TJ!
Hi Linda,
I've seen these things before in many different guises, some better than
others. A company called quadraflate used to make something similar, now a
bloke named Roger Brown is making something called 4air which is designed
specifically for 4wheeldrives. He offers a lot of custom deals and
accessories to tailor it to suit your needs, plus it only costs about half
what this one does. These types of charging manifolds can have good uses,
they can equalize tire pressure, save your *** if you air don one tire too
far, save time and effort etc..... I plan on building one myself, though if
I lived in the states I'd probably buy one...... The address is;
http://4crawler.cruiserpages.com/4x4/ForSale/4air.shtml
It's worth reading, it's a good write up. This guy runs a web page for 4
runners, but his page has a lot of great tips that can be applied to any
4x4. The basic site address is;
http://4crawler.cruiserpages.com/4Runner.shtml
You can spend literally hours reading at this site, there's so much info
there. I especially recommend clicking on 'cheap tricks' and '4x4 links'
each of which is a web page in it's own right. I've learned a lot of stuff
at this site, I also learned about tire siping and have since siped my own
(baja claws) with very satisfactory results.....
Shaun
South Korea
>Here's something for those who just don't have enough widgets and gizmos
>in their Jeeps. It's called a Tire Squid. Enjoy!
>
>http://www.clparts.com/amotorsports.html
>
>Linda
37887 From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 8:30am
Subject: welding diff's?
I've read a lot of good write-ups on welding diff's for a sort of large
cumbersome spool. The result is a completely locked axle that can't be
unlocked. There's a good write up here;
http://www.alloffroad.com/issue/2000/october/contents/lincon_locker.htm
I've got Dana 44's front and rear, plus manual locking hubs, so I was
really thinking about welding my front diff. I can buy a spare for about
$50, so I'd probably buy the spare, weld that and then install it. Most of
my trouble offroading comes not from hill climbing, but getting stuck on
more or less level ground, in mud, in gravel, in rivers etc, so I think I'd
get quite a lot of benefit from a front locker. If I ever had trouble
going uphill I could always try it in reverse ;-) The cheapest locker
available over here is the lock-right, at about US$400 not including
installation. This makes a welded locker seem attractive.
I'd really love to hear from anyone who's done something like this (how
about you Linda?). Is the effect on steering *really* that bad when locked?
Thanks,
Shaun
South Korea
37888 From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 8:36am
Subject: Re: Fw: New poll for az_vjc
That's a good point, and one I hadn't really thought of. I'm subscribed to
a lot of newsgroups, about a half dozen and wading through the several
hundred messages each day takes up some of my time. I can't say that I've
noticed a worse noise to content ratio on any of the other groups, and they
all use the 'reply to all' as default. I wonder how many members are
reading and replying to mail using the yahoo page...... All the other
groups I am on use majordomo so they don't have a web interface.. FWIW,
there's a work around that I've found usable when you want to reply just to
the author (though it's hardly an elegant method); Choose 'Forward' and
when the box pops up it contains the sender's address in the body of the
text. Cut and copy to the 'in' field.
As an aside, I've found Eudora to be a friendlier easier to use mail
program than outlook.
Shaun
South Korea
>Doesn't work that way for me. Using Outlook Express (w/ the preview off),
>when I hit reply to sender, it doesn't go the sender, but to the whole
>group. To reply to the sender now, I have to save the person's addy in my
>address book and go from there. Kind of a drag.
>
>This, IMO, will lead to a lot more junk on the list. Before, it was a simple
>matter of hitting "reply to all" when I wanted a note to go to the group.
>Pretty simple. Now, we'll get all the e-mail. Not a good plan, IMO....
>
>Just my 2 cents.
>
>Doug
37889 From: Beckham, Michael <Michael.Beckham@b...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 8:49am
Subject: RE: welding diff's?
Shaun, I welded my REAR diff almost a year ago....I'm not changing a thing.
Yes it chirps in the parking lot, and I probably get more wear, but the
handling is consistent, and there are no surprises. You get used to it, and
forget it. I would not weld the front, as it would greatly affect steering,
especially for a street ride. The back I don't notice unless I'm doing
tight corners in a parking lot.
Just keep an eye on the fluid, and while you have the cover off, look at the
welds. I had mine done by a pro, and no changes, in spite of many fairly
rough roads, not to mention the many street miles, which are probably harder
on the diff than anything off road.
Think it over carefully, it's a one-way decision.
-----Original Message-----
From: imagineero [mailto:imagineero@x...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 9:30 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] welding diff's?
I've read a lot of good write-ups on welding diff's for a sort of large
cumbersome spool. The result is a completely locked axle that can't be
unlocked. There's a good write up here;
http://www.alloffroad.com/issue/2000/october/contents/lincon_locker.htm
I've got Dana 44's front and rear, plus manual locking hubs, so I was
really thinking about welding my front diff. I can buy a spare for about
$50, so I'd probably buy the spare, weld that and then install it. Most of
my trouble offroading comes not from hill climbing, but getting stuck on
more or less level ground, in mud, in gravel, in rivers etc, so I think I'd
get quite a lot of benefit from a front locker. If I ever had trouble
going uphill I could always try it in reverse ;-) The cheapest locker
available over here is the lock-right, at about US$400 not including
installation. This makes a welded locker seem attractive.
I'd really love to hear from anyone who's done something like this (how
about you Linda?). Is the effect on steering *really* that bad when locked?
Thanks,
Shaun
South Korea
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37890 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 8:40am
Subject: Re: So what did everyone get for christmas
Merry Xmas!
Steve surprised me with a new 3/8" drill, an air ratchet, and a dog bone
creeper. Way cool stuff!
Linda
Brian Harmon wrote:
>
> OK all,
>
> Meryy christmas......my family is still asleep and I want o know what
> goodies jSanta brought you all for Christmas
>
> Brian Harmon
> 88 XJ Laredo
> http://www.cherokee-nation.com
>
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37891 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 9:02am
Subject: Re: So what did everyone get for christmas
I got a new Jeep!.....remote control, 4x4.... Anyone know where I can get
lockers for it??
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "linda luik" <minihummer@w...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: <arizonaXJ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] So what did everyone get for christmas
> Merry Xmas!
>
> Steve surprised me with a new 3/8" drill, an air ratchet, and a dog bone
> creeper. Way cool stuff!
>
> Linda
>
> Brian Harmon wrote:
> >
> > OK all,
> >
> > Meryy christmas......my family is still asleep and I want o know what
> > goodies jSanta brought you all for Christmas
> >
> > Brian Harmon
> > 88 XJ Laredo
> > http://www.cherokee-nation.com
> >
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>
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>
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37892 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 8:44am
Subject: Re: Keeping up with the nieghbor's TJ!
Ah.... That 4Runner site is where I got the idea to make my own hot
water heat exchanger! I made one for less than $100. They sell for over
$300. Great site!
Linda
imagineero wrote:
>
>
> It's worth reading, it's a good write up. This guy runs a web page for 4
> runners, but his page has a lot of great tips that can be applied to any
> 4x4. The basic site address is;
>
> http://4crawler.cruiserpages.com/4Runner.shtml
>
> You can spend literally hours reading at this site, there's so much info
> there. I especially recommend clicking on 'cheap tricks' and '4x4 links'
> each of which is a web page in it's own right. I've learned a lot of stuff
> at this site, I also learned about tire siping and have since siped my own
> (baja claws) with very satisfactory results.....
>
37893 From: jetowle2000 <jetowle2000@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 9:00am
Subject: Re: So what did everyone get for christmas
LOL, a SYE...
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Brian Harmon" <xjnation@h...> wrote:
> OK all,
>
> Meryy christmas......my family is still asleep and I want o know
what
> goodies jSanta brought you all for Christmas
>
>
> Brian Harmon
> 88 XJ Laredo
> http://www.cherokee-nation.com
>
>
> __________________________________________________ _______________
> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at
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37894 From: jetowle2000 <jetowle2000@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 9:01am
Subject: Re: So what did everyone get for christmas
Cool, joining the ranks of the breathers.
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Brian Harmon" <xjnation@h...> wrote:
> Hey Guys,
>
> My kids finally got up and I got a ARB snorkel kit for the XJ!
>
> and a cool vest
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Brian Harmon" <xjnation@h...>
> Reply-To: az_vjc@y...
> To: arizonaXJ@y..., az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] So what did everyone get for christmas
> Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 08:32:32 -0700
>
> OK all,
>
> Meryy christmas......my family is still asleep and I want o know
what
> goodies jSanta brought you all for Christmas
>
>
> Brian Harmon
> 88 XJ Laredo
> http://www.cherokee-nation.com
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> Brian Harmon
> 88 XJ Laredo
> http://www.cherokee-nation.com
> Hey guys,
>
>
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37895 From: Ralph Williams <ralphbw@q...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 9:07am
Subject: Re: Keeping up with the nieghbor's TJ!
How did that work out? Never did hear the final result.
Ralph
linda luik wrote:
>
> Ah.... That 4Runner site is where I got the idea to make my own hot
> water heat exchanger! I made one for less than $100. They sell for over
> $300. Great site!
>
> Linda
>
<snip>
37896 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 9:13am
Subject: RE: So what did everyone get for christmas
Doug, I think you will have to do a Lincoln locker on it. ;) Perhaps a bit
of super glue in the diff will do the trick? LOL
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 10:02 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] So what did everyone get for christmas
I got a new Jeep!.....remote control, 4x4.... Anyone know where I can get
lockers for it??
Doug
----- Original Message -----
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To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] So what did everyone get for christmas
> Merry Xmas!
>
> Steve surprised me with a new 3/8" drill, an air ratchet, and a dog bone
> creeper. Way cool stuff!
>
> Linda
>
> Brian Harmon wrote:
> >
> > OK all,
> >
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> > goodies jSanta brought you all for Christmas
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37897 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 9:21am
Subject: Re: So what did everyone get for christmas
Super glue!!! Why didn't I think of that..... :o)
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 10:13 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] So what did everyone get for christmas
> Doug, I think you will have to do a Lincoln locker on it. ;) Perhaps a
bit
> of super glue in the diff will do the trick? LOL
>
> Stu
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 10:02 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] So what did everyone get for christmas
>
>
> I got a new Jeep!.....remote control, 4x4.... Anyone know where I can
get
> lockers for it??
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: <arizonaXJ@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 9:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] So what did everyone get for christmas
>
>
> > Merry Xmas!
> >
> > Steve surprised me with a new 3/8" drill, an air ratchet, and a dog bone
> > creeper. Way cool stuff!
> >
> > Linda
> >
> > Brian Harmon wrote:
> > >
> > > OK all,
> > >
> > > Meryy christmas......my family is still asleep and I want o know what
> > > goodies jSanta brought you all for Christmas
> > >
> > > Brian Harmon
> > > 88 XJ Laredo
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37898 From: jetowle2000 <jetowle2000@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 9:21am
Subject: Re: So what did everyone get for christmas
Oh yeah, I forgot, she got a 10K gold and diamond ring....
Man those Jeep parts are expensive.
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., "jetowle2000" <jetowle2000@y...> wrote:
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> LOL, a SYE...
>
> --James
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Brian Harmon" <xjnation@h...> wrote:
> > OK all,
> >
> > Meryy christmas......my family is still asleep and I want o know
> what
> > goodies jSanta brought you all for Christmas
> >
> >
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> > 88 XJ Laredo
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37899 From: <SKYDIVEMAT@a...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 4:21am
Subject: Re: So what did everyone get for christmas
Doug,
Depending on the model, (most of them came stock with a locker).
Matt McKeon
95 ZJ
37900 From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 9:13am
Subject: RE: welding diff's?
Hi Michael,
Thanks for the reply, you made some good points..... I'd never thought it
would be possible to run a permanent locker in the rear full time while on
road! I'd heard it was a trail only type proposition. If I was going to
run a rear locker (which I hope to do sometime mid next year) then I think
I'll go with a detroit.
If you noticed in my message before I said that I have manual locking hubs
up, so with the hubs unlocked and in 2WD mode the front locker would be
taken out of the equation and road handling should be normal (am I missing
something hear?). I'd only engage the hub locks off road. This could end
up being kind of a bummer in a way too..... in winter I like to leave my
hubs locked all the time so I don't have to get out of the cab to engage
them for snow or whatever. If I were to go with a welded locker (which I
think I will) then I'd have to lock and unlock them *every time*. That
said, what do you think the offroad handling would be like?
I plan on buying a second hand diff and welding that, so if it turns out
being a very bad think I can always just put my original diff back in and
have lost only $50 plus some of my time....
Shaun
South Korea
>Shaun, I welded my REAR diff almost a year ago....I'm not changing a thing.
>Yes it chirps in the parking lot, and I probably get more wear, but the
>handling is consistent, and there are no surprises. You get used to it, and
>forget it. I would not weld the front, as it would greatly affect steering,
>especially for a street ride. The back I don't notice unless I'm doing
>tight corners in a parking lot.
>Just keep an eye on the fluid, and while you have the cover off, look at the
>welds. I had mine done by a pro, and no changes, in spite of many fairly
>rough roads, not to mention the many street miles, which are probably harder
>on the diff than anything off road.
>Think it over carefully, it's a one-way decision.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: imagineero [mailto:imagineero@x...]
>Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 9:30 AM
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] welding diff's?
>
>
>I've read a lot of good write-ups on welding diff's for a sort of large
>cumbersome spool. The result is a completely locked axle that can't be
>unlocked. There's a good write up here;
>
>http://www.alloffroad.com/issue/2000/october/contents/lincon_locker.htm
>
>I've got Dana 44's front and rear, plus manual locking hubs, so I was
>really thinking about welding my front diff. I can buy a spare for about
>$50, so I'd probably buy the spare, weld that and then install it. Most of
>my trouble offroading comes not from hill climbing, but getting stuck on
>more or less level ground, in mud, in gravel, in rivers etc, so I think I'd
>get quite a lot of benefit from a front locker. If I ever had trouble
>going uphill I could always try it in reverse ;-) The cheapest locker
>available over here is the lock-right, at about US$400 not including
>installation. This makes a welded locker seem attractive.
>
>I'd really love to hear from anyone who's done something like this (how
>about you Linda?). Is the effect on steering *really* that bad when locked?
>
>Thanks,
>Shaun
>South Korea
37901 From: Beckham, Michael <Michael.Beckham@b...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 9:42am
Subject: RE: welding diff's?
Whoops! Missed that part! that would make a difference. (ya mean I gotta
read ALL the words?)
-----Original Message-----
From: imagineero [mailto:imagineero@x...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 10:13 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] welding diff's?
Hi Michael,
Thanks for the reply, you made some good points..... I'd never thought it
would be possible to run a permanent locker in the rear full time while on
road! I'd heard it was a trail only type proposition. If I was going to
run a rear locker (which I hope to do sometime mid next year) then I think
I'll go with a detroit.
If you noticed in my message before I said that I have manual locking hubs
up, so with the hubs unlocked and in 2WD mode the front locker would be
taken out of the equation and road handling should be normal (am I missing
something hear?). I'd only engage the hub locks off road. This could end
up being kind of a bummer in a way too..... in winter I like to leave my
hubs locked all the time so I don't have to get out of the cab to engage
them for snow or whatever. If I were to go with a welded locker (which I
think I will) then I'd have to lock and unlock them *every time*. That
said, what do you think the offroad handling would be like?
I plan on buying a second hand diff and welding that, so if it turns out
being a very bad think I can always just put my original diff back in and
have lost only $50 plus some of my time....
Shaun
South Korea
>Shaun, I welded my REAR diff almost a year ago....I'm not changing a thing.
>Yes it chirps in the parking lot, and I probably get more wear, but the
>handling is consistent, and there are no surprises. You get used to it, and
>forget it. I would not weld the front, as it would greatly affect
steering,
>especially for a street ride. The back I don't notice unless I'm doing
>tight corners in a parking lot.
>Just keep an eye on the fluid, and while you have the cover off, look at
the
>welds. I had mine done by a pro, and no changes, in spite of many fairly
>rough roads, not to mention the many street miles, which are probably
harder
>on the diff than anything off road.
>Think it over carefully, it's a one-way decision.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: imagineero [mailto:imagineero@x...]
>Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 9:30 AM
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] welding diff's?
>
>
>I've read a lot of good write-ups on welding diff's for a sort of large
>cumbersome spool. The result is a completely locked axle that can't be
>unlocked. There's a good write up here;
>
>http://www.alloffroad.com/issue/2000/october/contents/lincon_locker.htm
>
>I've got Dana 44's front and rear, plus manual locking hubs, so I was
>really thinking about welding my front diff. I can buy a spare for about
>$50, so I'd probably buy the spare, weld that and then install it. Most of
>my trouble offroading comes not from hill climbing, but getting stuck on
>more or less level ground, in mud, in gravel, in rivers etc, so I think I'd
>get quite a lot of benefit from a front locker. If I ever had trouble
>going uphill I could always try it in reverse ;-) The cheapest locker
>available over here is the lock-right, at about US$400 not including
>installation. This makes a welded locker seem attractive.
>
>I'd really love to hear from anyone who's done something like this (how
>about you Linda?). Is the effect on steering *really* that bad when
locked?
>
>Thanks,
>Shaun
>South Korea
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