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37727 From: brian56b <brian56b@y...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 4:50pm
Subject: Looking for a little snow. Sat 12/22
I am trying to find a little snow for tomorrow morning. I want to
take the family somewhere up I-17 and then maybe a level 2.5 or lower
road. Can anyone tell me where there's a nice spot to stop and play a
bit? Want to leave about 7am.
Thanks,
Brian
K7BAL
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37728 From: Marv Miller <mervalt@f...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 4:10pm
Subject: Jeep on the History channel
Friendly reminder to get your tapes ready. 8:00 AM Saturday, channel 71 in my 'hood.
Marv Miller
37729 From: jasonw3960 <abercrombie3952@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 6:30pm
Subject: Member sighting
Here's the wave to the brownish XJ sighted at Lou grubb Jeep at 17th
ave and bell at 6:30Pm friday night. I was in the yellow rescue TJ.
I'm new to the club how do i get a sticker?
Jason W.
2001 Yellow TJ sport
37730 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 6:37pm
Subject: RE: Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
Why thank you Bill. But you are half correct. Big talk yes, scared...
Let's call it smart. When the Jeep is capable I will do it.
Joey K
93YJ f/r open
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Mish [mailto:yldkat55@h...]
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 5:02 PM
> To: 'Chris Krieg'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; DesertJeep
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
>
>
> Hmm, pretty big talk for guys who are scared of Axle Alley.
>
> Bill Mish
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
> To: "'Chris Krieg'" <rv6a@m...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 4:35 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
>
>
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > So what you are saying is?... Joe's Jeep Sucks! :)
> >
> > Joey K
> > 93YJ
> > www.desertjeep.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
> > > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:18 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> > >
> > >
> > > I disagree, real Jeeps are not defined by how they get
> the way they
> > > are or even by headlight shape (sorry Joe and Scott) but
> rather by
> > > the person driving the Jeep.
> > >
> > > Attitude is everything.
> > >
> > > Happy Holidays.
> > >
> > > Chris K
> > >
> > > > From: "paparoach85251" <lespaparoach@m...>
> > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> > > >
> > > > Remember, reals jeeps are built not bought!!
> > > >
> > > > Les
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
>
37731 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 6:47pm
Subject: RE: [TR] Gila Monster - Saturday, December 22, 2001 - Reminder
Last call. See you in the morning.
Joey K
Cell 623.694.6048
-----Original Message-----
From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@azvjc.org]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:43 AM
To: AzVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Gila Monster - Saturday, December 22, 2001 - Reminder
Hello All,
Joey Kulich is leading a Gila Monster trail run on Saturday, December 22, 2001.
When: Meet at 8:30 AM leave at 9:00 AM
Where: The gas station at Jackrabbit and McDowel. On the north side of the free way.
Rating: 3.0+
Length: 4 hrs (dep. on # of Jeeps)
CB Channel: 4/ FRS 4
Gila Monster is a short wash in the Buckeye hills. There are a few obstacles with a couple of bypasses. I am recommending 32" tires or better with decent lift.
We will be heading to Cheap Trick for those so inclined. Cheap Trick is much more difficult. 35s, f/r locker, and substantial lift is required. Winch is recommended but not necessary.
Joey K
93YJ
joey@desertjeep.com
www.desertjeep.com
This trail is rated a 3+ with optional 4+ to 5's. There are several lines to take so anyone equipped to handle a 3+ can do this trail.
Sign Up List:
Joey Kulich Definite
Chris Villarreal Definite
Scott Maiden Definite
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
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37732 From: bermboy2000 <bermboy@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 7:03pm
Subject: Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
That is what I was trying to say, Chris K, Ive never met you so I
dont know how capable you or your jeep are but I've wheeled with Joey
quite a few times.
BTW see ya tomorrow Joey.
Scott Maiden
--- In az_vjc@y..., "DesertJeep" <joey@d...> wrote:
> Why thank you Bill. But you are half correct. Big talk yes,
scared...
> Let's call it smart. When the Jeep is capable I will do it.
>
> Joey K
> 93YJ f/r open
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bill Mish [mailto:yldkat55@h...]
> > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 5:02 PM
> > To: 'Chris Krieg'; az_vjc@y...; DesertJeep
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> >
> >
> > Hmm, pretty big talk for guys who are scared of Axle Alley.
> >
> > Bill Mish
> > 1955 Willys CJ3B
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
> > To: "'Chris Krieg'" <rv6a@m...>; <az_vjc@y...>
> > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 4:35 PM
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Chris,
> > >
> > > So what you are saying is?... Joe's Jeep Sucks! :)
> > >
> > > Joey K
> > > 93YJ
> > > www.desertjeep.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
> > > > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:18 PM
> > > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I disagree, real Jeeps are not defined by how they get
> > the way they
> > > > are or even by headlight shape (sorry Joe and Scott) but
> > rather by
> > > > the person driving the Jeep.
> > > >
> > > > Attitude is everything.
> > > >
> > > > Happy Holidays.
> > > >
> > > > Chris K
> > > >
> > > > > From: "paparoach85251" <lespaparoach@m...>
> > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> > > > >
> > > > > Remember, reals jeeps are built not bought!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Les
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
37733 From: AzVJC Website <davisrandy2@n...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 7:11pm
Subject: [TR] Terminator (Upper) - Saturday, December 22, 2001
Hello All,
Randy Davis is leading a Terminator (Upper) trail run on Saturday, December 22, 2001.
When: 8:30
Where: parking lot
Rating: 4.0+
Length: about 2 hours
CB Channel: 4
Upper Terminator can best be described as:
Rocks, waterfalls, off-camber spots and more rocks! Big Rocks.
Whereas there are several by-passes, even the by-passes have taken it's toll on sheet medal and paint.
This trail definitely requires full hard lockers in front and rear, lots of clearance, aggressive tires 33" or larger and an experienced driver.
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
37734 From: rrichards13 <rrichards13@y...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 7:36pm
Subject: Member sighting (red Cj5)
I saw you heading north on Mill just over the us60 around 1:30
today, I was in the chili pepper Tj turning on the 60.
Nice jeep
Randy
99Tj
37735 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 10:27pm
Subject: [FS] Kayak 10'
Price: 90.00
Contact: squarelights@aol.com
here you can see the kayak for sale. http://photos.yahoo.com/nilar708
37736 From: johnrabenius2001 <johnrabenius@h...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 8:10am
Subject: A SPECIAL THANKS TO JOE DARO AND MATT WAZNY
Joe/Matt,
Thanks for your help setting up the gears last night!
John Rabenius
37737 From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 8:45am
Subject: Re: tire carrier
>Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 00:27:56 +0900
>To: "Joey Martinez" <joey@w...>
>From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] tire carrier
>
>They've both got their pro's and cons;
>
>*roof rack
>better weight distribution
>cheaper
>easier to make
>reduces your carrying capacity
>dangerous in a roll-over
>
>
>*rear tire carrier
>easier access
>better looking
>
>If you have plenty of money then go with a good rear-tire carrier; angled,
>not perpendicular, and higher up. If you plan on carrying more weight on
>your tailgate (jerry cans etc) or going with big tires in the future then
>the roof rack is probably the better way to go.
>
>Shaun
>South Korea
>
>
>
>> Which is better for an XJ full-size spare, a roof rack or rear tire
>> carrier?
>>Joey
>>94XJ
37738 From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 8:46am
Subject: Re: Problems with Jeep saging
>Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 00:21:47 +0900
>To: Fred <fredtj@h...>
>From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Problems with Jeep saging
>
>I used to always think you were better off with more weight in the
>rear..... better traction?
>I had sag in my rear (and in my jeep too!). Probably all the beer ;-) A
>couple of suggestions...... Firstly, do you *really* need those 5 gallon
>cans? I guess you do.... I don't carry any at all, but then I live in a
>pretty populated country where your never more than 50 miles from a gas
>station. I always top up before trailing and have a 500 mile cruising
>range anyway. I used to carry a jerry can, but it got rusty from lack of
>use. When I had it I stored it in front of the door on the passenger
>side, basically stuck to the front quarter panel there, just behind the
>fender. It only added about 2 inches overall to the rigs width and didn't
>cause any problems. I had a large storage container on the other
>side. I've always thought that carrying gasoline in a thin stamped sheet
>metal jerry can on either the front or rear of your vehicle is like
>posting a sign saying 'torch me' to your forehead. You're less likely to
>be T-boned. I've been rear-ended by inattentive drivers twice just this year.
>
>As for the tire...... I've seen some serious guys rip out their back
>seats and throw it in their. I ripped out my back seat, but I mostly
>carry stuff in there. I've often considered building a custom roof rack
>to mount it. Not very aesthetically pleasing, but quite practical. You
>might need a cover to reduce UV degradation. If you run pizza cutters
>maybe consider mounting it on the hood ala land rover.
>
>Shaun
>South Korea
>
>>Mmmmm, shocks won't really make the vehicle higher. They can stiffen up
>>the ride and reduce body roll, but they won't really raise the vehicle.
>>Sounds like you just have too much weight in the rear of the vehicle,
>>and too much hanging way out past the rear. That's a problem with Jeeps,
>>too much weight in the rear. Those tire carriers that hang the spare
>>wayyyy off the back, to me, can be problematic when combined with a
>>large sized spare, and then throw a couple of 5 gallon gas cans out
>>there, and the Jeep starts acting like a Tonka Toy truck ;) I don't
>>like how SWB Jeeps drive, especially off road, in rocks, with a lot of
>>weight in the rear. We (the local club in Tucson) had one end up sitting
>>on the rear tire, pointing straight up in the air at the Step at
>>Charloureau Gap.
>>Anyway, spring stiffness really doesn't have too much to do with the
>>spring load rate. You probably need springs with a higher load rate, if
>>you want to hang that much weight off the rear.
>>It's really tough trying to carry stuff in SWB Jeeps. I've spent a lot
>>of time trying to figure ways to keep weight out of the rear.
>>Anway, I don't know what kind of Jeep you have, but if it's a TJ, you
>>can use some spring spacers in the rear, to level it out, if it's a leaf
>>spring, maybe something like a add a leaf, or just new springs.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Fred
37739 From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 8:50am
Subject: silly replying?
Is there a reason that this mailing list is set up as default to reply to
the message poster rather than the group? I've been on a lot of newsgroups
before, and this is the first time I've ever seen this type of setup. The
general thinking is that we'd all like to hear the replies, so it would be
better to default the reply address back to the group. If people have
something to say offline then they can always copy and paste. Sure, it's
easy enough to cut and paste the mailing list address in the 'to' field,
but I find myself often forgetting to do this (as I'm sure a great many
other people do). There have been many times when someone has posed a
great question and I'm sure they got lots of replies (which other people
would like to read) but they all got sent directly to that user. I've
received lots of replies off line that others would no doubt also be
interested it...... can we change this?
Shaun
Soth Korea
37740 From: Nasser <nasser88@h...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 9:05am
Subject: RE: [FS] Kayak 10'
Greetings,
I am interested in the kayak. Give me a call on 602-799-1340. Id like to take a look at it. I live in Gilbert.
Merry Christmas,
Nasser
Sprung Over 94 YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@azvjc.org]
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 6:28 AM
To: AzVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] [FS] Kayak 10'
Price: 90.00
Contact: squarelights@aol.com
here you can see the kayak for sale. http://photos.yahoo.com/nilar708
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
37741 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 9:03am
Subject: Re: Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> >
> > Remember, reals jeeps are built not bought!!
I am starting to disagree with that statement. I think it used to be
true when there were a few really bad aftermarket parts manufacturers (I
won't mention names, but if you have been 4-wheeling more than 10 years
you have probably bought stuff from them and threw it away in disgust)
so you had to build your own. Now there is such a large variety of high
quality aftermarket parts for the newer Jeeps (except XJs and ZJs) that
the statement really ought to be "real jeeps are bolted together not
built"!
Linda
37742 From: ERIC HERRING <ericherring@m...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 10:20am
Subject: RE: tire carrier
If you have a large spare I would go with a rear carrier to keep the center of gravity down. It's also a ***** to get anything much bigger than a 31" down from the roof rack of a lifted Jeep.
Eric Herring 92XJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Joey Martinez [mailto:joey@webtechs.net]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 3:21 PM
To: jeepclub
Subject: [az_vjc] tire carrier
Which is better for an XJ full-size spare, a roof rack or rear tire carrier?
Joey
94XJ
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37743 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 11:11am
Subject: Trail run tomorrow?
Are there any trail runs happening tomorrow (Sunday)? Any interest
in a Table Mesa run tomorrow? I couldn't make the Upper Terminator
run this morning but the weather is soooo nice that I'd like to get
out and take advantage of it. How about Predator or Upper Terminator?
If interested, shoot me an email. I'll check my email periodically
the rest of the day today.
-Roger
37744 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 11:11am
Subject: RE: silly replying?
Hi Shaun,
The moderator can change this feature (I believe). On the yahoo groups I am
moderator on; the default reply goes to the group and not the individual.
Joe West
> -----Original Message-----
> From: imagineero [mailto:imagineero@x...]
> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 9:50 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] silly replying?
>
>
> Is there a reason that this mailing list is set up as default
> to reply to
> the message poster rather than the group? I've been on a lot
> of newsgroups
> before, and this is the first time I've ever seen this type
> of setup. The
> general thinking is that we'd all like to hear the replies,
> so it would be
> better to default the reply address back to the group. If
> people have
> something to say offline then they can always copy and paste.
> Sure, it's
> easy enough to cut and paste the mailing list address in the
> 'to' field,
> but I find myself often forgetting to do this (as I'm sure a
> great many
> other people do). There have been many times when someone
> has posed a
> great question and I'm sure they got lots of replies (which
> other people
> would like to read) but they all got sent directly to that
> user. I've
> received lots of replies off line that others would no doubt also be
> interested it...... can we change this?
>
> Shaun
> Soth Korea
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
37745 From: Nick <nnote@a...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 11:16am
Subject: Pressure test again.
Ok, I just noticed on my emessions report that it says, gas cap pass, evap components pass, pressure test fail. So, I'm kinda lost. I'm thinking it's just the hoses from the charcol canistor back? I'm gonna have my bro-in-law help me out this noon and hook a bicicle pump to the hose or something...
Nick
37746 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 11:51am
Subject: Re: Trail run tomorrow? (another idea)
I'd also consider running the old P4W Ranch area. Any takers on
either Table Mesa or the Ranch?
-Roger
Roger Tomas wrote:
>
> Are there any trail runs happening tomorrow (Sunday)? Any interest
> in a Table Mesa run tomorrow? I couldn't make the Upper Terminator
> run this morning but the weather is soooo nice that I'd like to get
> out and take advantage of it. How about Predator or Upper Terminator?
>
> If interested, shoot me an email. I'll check my email periodically
> the rest of the day today.
>
> -Roger
37747 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 0:58pm
Subject: [FS] Cj-7 Hard Top & Doors
Price: 500.00
Contact: 480-839-9096
Cj 7 hard top and 1980 and newer doors: Tinted windows Top in good shape.Doors need some repairs
Don Munzer
37748 From: Grant Pearson <grant@d...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 1:13pm
Subject: RE: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
Dana 44's at both ends, 4:1 low range, air lockers, 31's stock...was anyone
else expecting the end of the article to read "April fools"? Is this for
real?
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hughes [mailto:jhughes@h...]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:31 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
I read an article in the new 4 Wheeler mag about the new 2003 Jeep TJ
Rubicon that has D44 front and rear
air lockers from some company from Japan and diamond plate rocker panels.It
said that this Jeep will be available
this summer.
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37749 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 1:03pm
Subject: [FS] Transmission & Axles
Price: best offer
Contact: 480-839-9096 or email
Jeep quadutrac turbo 400 with adapter 200.00
Narrow 20 superior axles one peice 150.00
Don Munzer
37750 From: fergustein <fergustein@y...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 1:29pm
Subject: PLEASE NEED HELP WITH LIFT IN GILBERT
Picked up add-a-leafs with front spacers 1 3/4 have no idea how to
install don't even know if i can open the box alone without messing
it up if anybody knows how it would be a great help food and choice
of beverage supplied it's for an 89 XJ let me know what tools i would
need and i'll borrow from the neighbors most of my stuff is still in
NY would be great if i can get this done before X-Mas.
Thanks,
Fergus
cell-602-616-2869
37751 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 2:09pm
Subject: [FS] Light Sand Front buckets and rear folding seats
Price: 300
Contact: Mike Hudson 520-290-3089
All the seats out of my 89' YJ. All in very good shape, with
the usual, minor wear. The drivers has a couple of small tears
on the front edge (where your knees bend over the seat), easily
repairable. If you have any good trade stuff I may be interested.
I just bought her and she needs allot.
thanks,
Mike
mike hudson
37727 From: brian56b <brian56b@y...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 4:50pm
Subject: Looking for a little snow. Sat 12/22
I am trying to find a little snow for tomorrow morning. I want to
take the family somewhere up I-17 and then maybe a level 2.5 or lower
road. Can anyone tell me where there's a nice spot to stop and play a
bit? Want to leave about 7am.
Thanks,
Brian
K7BAL
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37728 From: Marv Miller <mervalt@f...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 4:10pm
Subject: Jeep on the History channel
Friendly reminder to get your tapes ready. 8:00 AM Saturday, channel 71 in my 'hood.
Marv Miller
37729 From: jasonw3960 <abercrombie3952@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 6:30pm
Subject: Member sighting
Here's the wave to the brownish XJ sighted at Lou grubb Jeep at 17th
ave and bell at 6:30Pm friday night. I was in the yellow rescue TJ.
I'm new to the club how do i get a sticker?
Jason W.
2001 Yellow TJ sport
37730 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 6:37pm
Subject: RE: Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
Why thank you Bill. But you are half correct. Big talk yes, scared...
Let's call it smart. When the Jeep is capable I will do it.
Joey K
93YJ f/r open
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Mish [mailto:yldkat55@h...]
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 5:02 PM
> To: 'Chris Krieg'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; DesertJeep
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
>
>
> Hmm, pretty big talk for guys who are scared of Axle Alley.
>
> Bill Mish
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
> To: "'Chris Krieg'" <rv6a@m...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 4:35 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
>
>
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > So what you are saying is?... Joe's Jeep Sucks! :)
> >
> > Joey K
> > 93YJ
> > www.desertjeep.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
> > > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:18 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> > >
> > >
> > > I disagree, real Jeeps are not defined by how they get
> the way they
> > > are or even by headlight shape (sorry Joe and Scott) but
> rather by
> > > the person driving the Jeep.
> > >
> > > Attitude is everything.
> > >
> > > Happy Holidays.
> > >
> > > Chris K
> > >
> > > > From: "paparoach85251" <lespaparoach@m...>
> > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> > > >
> > > > Remember, reals jeeps are built not bought!!
> > > >
> > > > Les
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
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37731 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 6:47pm
Subject: RE: [TR] Gila Monster - Saturday, December 22, 2001 - Reminder
Last call. See you in the morning.
Joey K
Cell 623.694.6048
-----Original Message-----
From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@azvjc.org]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:43 AM
To: AzVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Gila Monster - Saturday, December 22, 2001 - Reminder
Hello All,
Joey Kulich is leading a Gila Monster trail run on Saturday, December 22, 2001.
When: Meet at 8:30 AM leave at 9:00 AM
Where: The gas station at Jackrabbit and McDowel. On the north side of the free way.
Rating: 3.0+
Length: 4 hrs (dep. on # of Jeeps)
CB Channel: 4/ FRS 4
Gila Monster is a short wash in the Buckeye hills. There are a few obstacles with a couple of bypasses. I am recommending 32" tires or better with decent lift.
We will be heading to Cheap Trick for those so inclined. Cheap Trick is much more difficult. 35s, f/r locker, and substantial lift is required. Winch is recommended but not necessary.
Joey K
93YJ
joey@desertjeep.com
www.desertjeep.com
This trail is rated a 3+ with optional 4+ to 5's. There are several lines to take so anyone equipped to handle a 3+ can do this trail.
Sign Up List:
Joey Kulich Definite
Chris Villarreal Definite
Scott Maiden Definite
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
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37732 From: bermboy2000 <bermboy@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 7:03pm
Subject: Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
That is what I was trying to say, Chris K, Ive never met you so I
dont know how capable you or your jeep are but I've wheeled with Joey
quite a few times.
BTW see ya tomorrow Joey.
Scott Maiden
--- In az_vjc@y..., "DesertJeep" <joey@d...> wrote:
> Why thank you Bill. But you are half correct. Big talk yes,
scared...
> Let's call it smart. When the Jeep is capable I will do it.
>
> Joey K
> 93YJ f/r open
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bill Mish [mailto:yldkat55@h...]
> > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 5:02 PM
> > To: 'Chris Krieg'; az_vjc@y...; DesertJeep
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> >
> >
> > Hmm, pretty big talk for guys who are scared of Axle Alley.
> >
> > Bill Mish
> > 1955 Willys CJ3B
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
> > To: "'Chris Krieg'" <rv6a@m...>; <az_vjc@y...>
> > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 4:35 PM
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Chris,
> > >
> > > So what you are saying is?... Joe's Jeep Sucks! :)
> > >
> > > Joey K
> > > 93YJ
> > > www.desertjeep.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
> > > > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:18 PM
> > > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I disagree, real Jeeps are not defined by how they get
> > the way they
> > > > are or even by headlight shape (sorry Joe and Scott) but
> > rather by
> > > > the person driving the Jeep.
> > > >
> > > > Attitude is everything.
> > > >
> > > > Happy Holidays.
> > > >
> > > > Chris K
> > > >
> > > > > From: "paparoach85251" <lespaparoach@m...>
> > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> > > > >
> > > > > Remember, reals jeeps are built not bought!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Les
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
37733 From: AzVJC Website <davisrandy2@n...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 7:11pm
Subject: [TR] Terminator (Upper) - Saturday, December 22, 2001
Hello All,
Randy Davis is leading a Terminator (Upper) trail run on Saturday, December 22, 2001.
When: 8:30
Where: parking lot
Rating: 4.0+
Length: about 2 hours
CB Channel: 4
Upper Terminator can best be described as:
Rocks, waterfalls, off-camber spots and more rocks! Big Rocks.
Whereas there are several by-passes, even the by-passes have taken it's toll on sheet medal and paint.
This trail definitely requires full hard lockers in front and rear, lots of clearance, aggressive tires 33" or larger and an experienced driver.
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
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Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
37734 From: rrichards13 <rrichards13@y...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 7:36pm
Subject: Member sighting (red Cj5)
I saw you heading north on Mill just over the us60 around 1:30
today, I was in the chili pepper Tj turning on the 60.
Nice jeep
Randy
99Tj
37735 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 10:27pm
Subject: [FS] Kayak 10'
Price: 90.00
Contact: squarelights@aol.com
here you can see the kayak for sale. http://photos.yahoo.com/nilar708
37736 From: johnrabenius2001 <johnrabenius@h...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 8:10am
Subject: A SPECIAL THANKS TO JOE DARO AND MATT WAZNY
Joe/Matt,
Thanks for your help setting up the gears last night!
John Rabenius
37737 From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 8:45am
Subject: Re: tire carrier
>Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 00:27:56 +0900
>To: "Joey Martinez" <joey@w...>
>From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] tire carrier
>
>They've both got their pro's and cons;
>
>*roof rack
>better weight distribution
>cheaper
>easier to make
>reduces your carrying capacity
>dangerous in a roll-over
>
>
>*rear tire carrier
>easier access
>better looking
>
>If you have plenty of money then go with a good rear-tire carrier; angled,
>not perpendicular, and higher up. If you plan on carrying more weight on
>your tailgate (jerry cans etc) or going with big tires in the future then
>the roof rack is probably the better way to go.
>
>Shaun
>South Korea
>
>
>
>> Which is better for an XJ full-size spare, a roof rack or rear tire
>> carrier?
>>Joey
>>94XJ
37738 From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 8:46am
Subject: Re: Problems with Jeep saging
>Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 00:21:47 +0900
>To: Fred <fredtj@h...>
>From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Problems with Jeep saging
>
>I used to always think you were better off with more weight in the
>rear..... better traction?
>I had sag in my rear (and in my jeep too!). Probably all the beer ;-) A
>couple of suggestions...... Firstly, do you *really* need those 5 gallon
>cans? I guess you do.... I don't carry any at all, but then I live in a
>pretty populated country where your never more than 50 miles from a gas
>station. I always top up before trailing and have a 500 mile cruising
>range anyway. I used to carry a jerry can, but it got rusty from lack of
>use. When I had it I stored it in front of the door on the passenger
>side, basically stuck to the front quarter panel there, just behind the
>fender. It only added about 2 inches overall to the rigs width and didn't
>cause any problems. I had a large storage container on the other
>side. I've always thought that carrying gasoline in a thin stamped sheet
>metal jerry can on either the front or rear of your vehicle is like
>posting a sign saying 'torch me' to your forehead. You're less likely to
>be T-boned. I've been rear-ended by inattentive drivers twice just this year.
>
>As for the tire...... I've seen some serious guys rip out their back
>seats and throw it in their. I ripped out my back seat, but I mostly
>carry stuff in there. I've often considered building a custom roof rack
>to mount it. Not very aesthetically pleasing, but quite practical. You
>might need a cover to reduce UV degradation. If you run pizza cutters
>maybe consider mounting it on the hood ala land rover.
>
>Shaun
>South Korea
>
>>Mmmmm, shocks won't really make the vehicle higher. They can stiffen up
>>the ride and reduce body roll, but they won't really raise the vehicle.
>>Sounds like you just have too much weight in the rear of the vehicle,
>>and too much hanging way out past the rear. That's a problem with Jeeps,
>>too much weight in the rear. Those tire carriers that hang the spare
>>wayyyy off the back, to me, can be problematic when combined with a
>>large sized spare, and then throw a couple of 5 gallon gas cans out
>>there, and the Jeep starts acting like a Tonka Toy truck ;) I don't
>>like how SWB Jeeps drive, especially off road, in rocks, with a lot of
>>weight in the rear. We (the local club in Tucson) had one end up sitting
>>on the rear tire, pointing straight up in the air at the Step at
>>Charloureau Gap.
>>Anyway, spring stiffness really doesn't have too much to do with the
>>spring load rate. You probably need springs with a higher load rate, if
>>you want to hang that much weight off the rear.
>>It's really tough trying to carry stuff in SWB Jeeps. I've spent a lot
>>of time trying to figure ways to keep weight out of the rear.
>>Anway, I don't know what kind of Jeep you have, but if it's a TJ, you
>>can use some spring spacers in the rear, to level it out, if it's a leaf
>>spring, maybe something like a add a leaf, or just new springs.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Fred
37739 From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 8:50am
Subject: silly replying?
Is there a reason that this mailing list is set up as default to reply to
the message poster rather than the group? I've been on a lot of newsgroups
before, and this is the first time I've ever seen this type of setup. The
general thinking is that we'd all like to hear the replies, so it would be
better to default the reply address back to the group. If people have
something to say offline then they can always copy and paste. Sure, it's
easy enough to cut and paste the mailing list address in the 'to' field,
but I find myself often forgetting to do this (as I'm sure a great many
other people do). There have been many times when someone has posed a
great question and I'm sure they got lots of replies (which other people
would like to read) but they all got sent directly to that user. I've
received lots of replies off line that others would no doubt also be
interested it...... can we change this?
Shaun
Soth Korea
37740 From: Nasser <nasser88@h...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 9:05am
Subject: RE: [FS] Kayak 10'
Greetings,
I am interested in the kayak. Give me a call on 602-799-1340. Id like to take a look at it. I live in Gilbert.
Merry Christmas,
Nasser
Sprung Over 94 YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@azvjc.org]
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 6:28 AM
To: AzVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] [FS] Kayak 10'
Price: 90.00
Contact: squarelights@aol.com
here you can see the kayak for sale. http://photos.yahoo.com/nilar708
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37741 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 9:03am
Subject: Re: Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> >
> > Remember, reals jeeps are built not bought!!
I am starting to disagree with that statement. I think it used to be
true when there were a few really bad aftermarket parts manufacturers (I
won't mention names, but if you have been 4-wheeling more than 10 years
you have probably bought stuff from them and threw it away in disgust)
so you had to build your own. Now there is such a large variety of high
quality aftermarket parts for the newer Jeeps (except XJs and ZJs) that
the statement really ought to be "real jeeps are bolted together not
built"!
Linda
37742 From: ERIC HERRING <ericherring@m...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 10:20am
Subject: RE: tire carrier
If you have a large spare I would go with a rear carrier to keep the center of gravity down. It's also a ***** to get anything much bigger than a 31" down from the roof rack of a lifted Jeep.
Eric Herring 92XJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Joey Martinez [mailto:joey@webtechs.net]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 3:21 PM
To: jeepclub
Subject: [az_vjc] tire carrier
Which is better for an XJ full-size spare, a roof rack or rear tire carrier?
Joey
94XJ
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37743 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 11:11am
Subject: Trail run tomorrow?
Are there any trail runs happening tomorrow (Sunday)? Any interest
in a Table Mesa run tomorrow? I couldn't make the Upper Terminator
run this morning but the weather is soooo nice that I'd like to get
out and take advantage of it. How about Predator or Upper Terminator?
If interested, shoot me an email. I'll check my email periodically
the rest of the day today.
-Roger
37744 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 11:11am
Subject: RE: silly replying?
Hi Shaun,
The moderator can change this feature (I believe). On the yahoo groups I am
moderator on; the default reply goes to the group and not the individual.
Joe West
> -----Original Message-----
> From: imagineero [mailto:imagineero@x...]
> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 9:50 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] silly replying?
>
>
> Is there a reason that this mailing list is set up as default
> to reply to
> the message poster rather than the group? I've been on a lot
> of newsgroups
> before, and this is the first time I've ever seen this type
> of setup. The
> general thinking is that we'd all like to hear the replies,
> so it would be
> better to default the reply address back to the group. If
> people have
> something to say offline then they can always copy and paste.
> Sure, it's
> easy enough to cut and paste the mailing list address in the
> 'to' field,
> but I find myself often forgetting to do this (as I'm sure a
> great many
> other people do). There have been many times when someone
> has posed a
> great question and I'm sure they got lots of replies (which
> other people
> would like to read) but they all got sent directly to that
> user. I've
> received lots of replies off line that others would no doubt also be
> interested it...... can we change this?
>
> Shaun
> Soth Korea
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
37745 From: Nick <nnote@a...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 11:16am
Subject: Pressure test again.
Ok, I just noticed on my emessions report that it says, gas cap pass, evap components pass, pressure test fail. So, I'm kinda lost. I'm thinking it's just the hoses from the charcol canistor back? I'm gonna have my bro-in-law help me out this noon and hook a bicicle pump to the hose or something...
Nick
37746 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 11:51am
Subject: Re: Trail run tomorrow? (another idea)
I'd also consider running the old P4W Ranch area. Any takers on
either Table Mesa or the Ranch?
-Roger
Roger Tomas wrote:
>
> Are there any trail runs happening tomorrow (Sunday)? Any interest
> in a Table Mesa run tomorrow? I couldn't make the Upper Terminator
> run this morning but the weather is soooo nice that I'd like to get
> out and take advantage of it. How about Predator or Upper Terminator?
>
> If interested, shoot me an email. I'll check my email periodically
> the rest of the day today.
>
> -Roger
37747 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 0:58pm
Subject: [FS] Cj-7 Hard Top & Doors
Price: 500.00
Contact: 480-839-9096
Cj 7 hard top and 1980 and newer doors: Tinted windows Top in good shape.Doors need some repairs
Don Munzer
37748 From: Grant Pearson <grant@d...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 1:13pm
Subject: RE: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
Dana 44's at both ends, 4:1 low range, air lockers, 31's stock...was anyone
else expecting the end of the article to read "April fools"? Is this for
real?
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hughes [mailto:jhughes@h...]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:31 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
I read an article in the new 4 Wheeler mag about the new 2003 Jeep TJ
Rubicon that has D44 front and rear
air lockers from some company from Japan and diamond plate rocker panels.It
said that this Jeep will be available
this summer.
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37749 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 1:03pm
Subject: [FS] Transmission & Axles
Price: best offer
Contact: 480-839-9096 or email
Jeep quadutrac turbo 400 with adapter 200.00
Narrow 20 superior axles one peice 150.00
Don Munzer
37750 From: fergustein <fergustein@y...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 1:29pm
Subject: PLEASE NEED HELP WITH LIFT IN GILBERT
Picked up add-a-leafs with front spacers 1 3/4 have no idea how to
install don't even know if i can open the box alone without messing
it up if anybody knows how it would be a great help food and choice
of beverage supplied it's for an 89 XJ let me know what tools i would
need and i'll borrow from the neighbors most of my stuff is still in
NY would be great if i can get this done before X-Mas.
Thanks,
Fergus
cell-602-616-2869
37751 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sat Dec 22, 2001 2:09pm
Subject: [FS] Light Sand Front buckets and rear folding seats
Price: 300
Contact: Mike Hudson 520-290-3089
All the seats out of my 89' YJ. All in very good shape, with
the usual, minor wear. The drivers has a couple of small tears
on the front edge (where your knees bend over the seat), easily
repairable. If you have any good trade stuff I may be interested.
I just bought her and she needs allot.
thanks,
Mike
mike hudson