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37702 From: my1stjeep <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 0:02pm
Subject: Happy Holidays!!!
Nothing fancy here, just best wishes for you, your families and
friends during the holiday season.
Oh ok, MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!! and HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Remember the reason for the season.
Chris and Jannelle Radoccia
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37703 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 0:46pm
Subject: Re: recomendations
Can't do a body lift on an XJ - it's unibody.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: Joey Martinez
To: jeepclub
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:59 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] recomendations
I want to get my XJ a little higher but don't want change out my Ranco 9000's, is the only way to go a body lift? And if so what doe that entail?
TIA
Joey
94XJ
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37704 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 1:18pm
Subject: Re: Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
I disagree, real Jeeps are not defined by how they get the way they are or
even by headlight shape (sorry Joe and Scott) but rather by the person
driving the Jeep.
Attitude is everything.
Happy Holidays.
Chris K
> From: "paparoach85251" <lespaparoach@m...>
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
>
> Remember, reals jeeps are built not bought!!
>
> Les
37705 From: Robert Holmes <flamable_liquid@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 1:38pm
Subject: Built or Bought? (TJ RUBICON)
I agree with Chris, however I think Jeeping does have quite a bit to do with
the vehicle as well as the as the aditude otherwise wouldnt we just let
everyone into the Virtual <insert 4WD vehicle here) Club. I dont think that
building it makes it any more "Jeep" Infact it may be less of the
manufactured "Jeep" parts. I guess the purpose of building, bolting on, or
paying somone else to do both are just different means to making a trail
vehicle. the Fun comes when you see what breaks and what doesnt (in my mind
anyway). Its all Jeep the difference come with the person driving the Jeep
(as chris said) They build/bolt what they trust to get their Jeep and
themselves throught the trail hopefully in one piece.
~Robert Holmes
(proud owner of a "Built" Jeep
>From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
>To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:18:27 -0700
>
>I disagree, real Jeeps are not defined by how they get the way they are or
>even by headlight shape (sorry Joe and Scott) but rather by the person
>driving the Jeep.
>
>Attitude is everything.
>
>Happy Holidays.
>
>Chris K
>
> > From: "paparoach85251" <lespaparoach@m...>
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> >
> > Remember, reals jeeps are built not bought!!
> >
> > Les
>
>
>
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37706 From: <hillb@s...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 1:38pm
Subject: Re: recomendations
If you only want a couple of inches more, you may want to look into a
spacer lift. There are a couple of places where you can get a "budget
boost" lift for the XJ for around or under $100. It consist of coil
spacers up front and either a block or an extended shackle in the back.
Hope this helps.
Ben
"DougB"
<azjeep@home. To: "jeepclub" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>, "Joey
com> Martinez" <joey@w...>
cc:
12/21/2001 Subject: Re: [az_vjc] recomendations
01:46 PM
Can't do a body lift on an XJ - it's unibody.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: Joey Martinez
To: jeepclub
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:59 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] recomendations
I want to get my XJ a little higher but don't want change out my Ranco
9000's, is the only way to go a body lift? And if so what doe that entail?
TIA
Joey
94XJ
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37707 From: Robert Holmes <flamable_liquid@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 1:42pm
Subject: [MB] Built or Bought? (TJ RUBICON)
This may help with the CJ/YJ/TJ.....and so one arguments
>From: "Robert Holmes" <flamable_liquid@h...>
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] Built or Bought? (TJ RUBICON)
>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 21:38:20
>
>I agree with Chris, however I think Jeeping does have quite a bit to do
>with
>the vehicle as well as the as the aditude otherwise wouldnt we just let
>everyone into the Virtual <insert 4WD vehicle here) Club. I dont think that
>building it makes it any more "Jeep" Infact it may be less of the
>manufactured "Jeep" parts. I guess the purpose of building, bolting on, or
>paying somone else to do both are just different means to making a trail
>vehicle. the Fun comes when you see what breaks and what doesnt (in my mind
>anyway). Its all Jeep the difference come with the person driving the Jeep
>(as chris said) They build/bolt what they trust to get their Jeep and
>themselves throught the trail hopefully in one piece.
>
>~Robert Holmes
>(proud owner of a "Built" Jeep
>
>
> >From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
> >To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> >Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:18:27 -0700
> >
> >I disagree, real Jeeps are not defined by how they get the way they are
>or
> >even by headlight shape (sorry Joe and Scott) but rather by the person
> >driving the Jeep.
> >
> >Attitude is everything.
> >
> >Happy Holidays.
> >
> >Chris K
> >
> > > From: "paparoach85251" <lespaparoach@m...>
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> > >
> > > Remember, reals jeeps are built not bought!!
> > >
> > > Les
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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37708 From: Halverson <byrnec@q...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 2:15pm
Subject: Re: Re: Ramp Stats
I have a specially built rack in the back of my jeep for my tennis racquets,
right next to my portable tie rack, so I don't think that they hinder my
driving at all.
John '99TJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "nilar708" <squarelights@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:17 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Ramp Stats
>
> I would like to know what a slightly built yj , in your opinion is?
> imo, wheelin performance is based highly on the driver. in the tj's
> case, the drivers tennis racket and tie hinder the performance of
> their driving.
>
> nick l. 93 yj soa
>
> --- In az_vjc@y
>
> ..., Fred <fredtj@h...> wrote:
> > Yup, those TJ's are really pretty neat (I have a '98).. I've seen
> > basically stock (30" tire and wheel package) TJ's go right over
> > obstacles that somewhat (slightly) built YJ's couldn't make. I'm
> not
> > putting down YJ's or CJ's, etc. I owned a CJ5 before this TJ :)
> It's
> > just that "right out of the box", TJ's are pretty interesting, not
> Axle
> > Alley ready, but still nice ;)
> >
> >
> > :)
> > Fred
> >
> > Siade, Randy wrote:
> >
> > >A guy I know just bought a 2002 TJ he is installing a Tera flex on
> it this
> > >weekend and wanted to know what his stock Jeep would ramp so he
> come by last
> > >night to use my ramp. Here are the results. Very impressive.
> > >
> > >With quick disconnects connected 450
> > >With quick disconnects, disconnected 760
> > >
> > >We will test it again after the lift is installed.
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >Randy Siade
> > >Engineering Manager
> > >Unisys Unigen Operations
> > >6161 W. Erie Street
> > >Chandler, AZ 85226
> > >Phone 480 783-5911
> > >Fax 480 783-5960
> > >Cell 602-329-0699
> > >randy.siade@u...
> > >
> > >
> > >
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37709 From: nilar708 <squarelights@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 2:10pm
Subject: what is a good photo page to share my photos
pleas mail me off list thx.
37710 From: Joey Martinez <joey@w...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 2:21pm
Subject: tire carrier
Which is better for an XJ full-size spare, a roof rack or rear tire carrier?
Joey
94XJ
37711 From: nilar708 <squarelights@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 2:24pm
Subject: Re: Ramp Stats
lol, right on.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Halverson" <byrnec@q...> wrote:
> I have a specially built rack in the back of my jeep for my tennis
racquets,
> right next to my portable tie rack, so I don't think that they
hinder my
> driving at all.
> John '99TJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "nilar708" <squarelights@h...>
> To: <az_vjc@y...>
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:17 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Ramp Stats
>
>
> >
> > I would like to know what a slightly built yj , in your opinion
is?
> > imo, wheelin performance is based highly on the driver. in the
tj's
> > case, the drivers tennis racket and tie hinder the performance of
> > their driving.
> >
> > nick l. 93 yj soa
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y
> >
> > ..., Fred <fredtj@h...> wrote:
> > > Yup, those TJ's are really pretty neat (I have a '98).. I've
seen
> > > basically stock (30" tire and wheel package) TJ's go right over
> > > obstacles that somewhat (slightly) built YJ's couldn't make. I'm
> > not
> > > putting down YJ's or CJ's, etc. I owned a CJ5 before this TJ :)
> > It's
> > > just that "right out of the box", TJ's are pretty interesting,
not
> > Axle
> > > Alley ready, but still nice ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > :)
> > > Fred
> > >
> > > Siade, Randy wrote:
> > >
> > > >A guy I know just bought a 2002 TJ he is installing a Tera
flex on
> > it this
> > > >weekend and wanted to know what his stock Jeep would ramp so he
> > come by last
> > > >night to use my ramp. Here are the results. Very impressive.
> > > >
> > > >With quick disconnects connected 450
> > > >With quick disconnects, disconnected 760
> > > >
> > > >We will test it again after the lift is installed.
> > > >
> > > >Regards
> > > >Randy Siade
> > > >Engineering Manager
> > > >Unisys Unigen Operations
> > > >6161 W. Erie Street
> > > >Chandler, AZ 85226
> > > >Phone 480 783-5911
> > > >Fax 480 783-5960
> > > >Cell 602-329-0699
> > > >randy.siade@u...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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37712 From: Gary MacLaren <gmaclaren@c...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 2:27pm
Subject: Fw: ***Friday, Dec 21st Deadline -- Save Forest Uses***
-----Original Message-----
From: Joan Beck <fourby@c...>
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
Date: Friday, December 21, 2001 10:48 AM
Subject: Fw: ***Friday, Dec 21st Deadline -- Save Forest Uses***
----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck Cushman <ccushman@p...>
To: <landrights-alert1@l...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:04 PM
Subject: ***Friday, Dec 21st Deadline -- Save Forest Uses***
> American Land Rights Association - Land Rights Network
> PO Box 400 - Battle Ground WA 98604
> Phone: 360-687-3087 - Fax: 360-687-2973 - Email: < alra@l... > -
> http://www.landrights.org
> Legislative Office: 508 First St SE - Washington DC 20003
> Phone: 202-251-3473 - Fax: 202-543-7126 - Email: landrightsnet@a...
>
>
>
> Friday, Dec 21st Deadline To Save Forest Use
>
> All Users Must Call Or Send A Message NOW!!
>
> What's the problem?
>
> December 24th is the deadline for USDA Under Secretary Mark Rey to decide
> whether or not to use his discretionary authority to review USFS Chief
> Bosworth's decision on the Sierra Nevada Forest Plan Amendment - the
> Framework - Final Environmental Impact Statement and Record of Decision.
>
> If this giant ecosystem management land grab is allowed to go forward by
> the Bush Administration, it will reduce or eliminate many user groups from
> 11 national forests in the Sierra Nevada Mountains of California and
> Nevada.
>
> Why should I care if I don't live in California?
>
> Because if this giant ecosystem land grab goes through, the Forest Service
> plans to use it as a model to control and manage all other national
> forests. All multiple-use and recreation in the forests will be reduced
> or eliminated.
>
> Background
>
> The Framework process has been on-going for years beginning in 1992 with
> the California spotted owl interim guidelines, meant to protect the owl
for
> only two years until final guidelines could be developed. The USFS has
> failed miserably over the last 9 years to define what protection measures
> were necessary and follow federal mandates allowing multiple use of 11
> national forests in the Sierra region. The Framework is their latest
> attempt.
>
> Decision Made by the USFS
>
> The Framework decision was signed on Jan. 12, 2001. By April over 200
> appeals were filed, noting hundreds of procedural and legal violations and
> deficiencies. Chief Bosworth affirmed the Framework FEIS and ROD, denying
> all appeals on Nov. 16,200.
>
> It implements an alternative that was never disclosed to the public during
> the process and will wipe out recreation cabins, grazing, timber
> harvesting, recreation and mining in the region. The USFS determined it
to
> be 100% right and the public 100% wrong on every single issue raised.
>
> TAKE ACTION THROUGH DECEMBER 21st
>
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> and the US Department of Agriculture.
>
> Don't assume someone else will do it.
>
> Do not fail to do your part.
>
> Our last effort generated 15,000 emails supporting a review by Under Sec.
> Rey. Now will users MUST GENERATE MORE.
>
> Mark Rey, Under Secretary of Natural Resources & Environment, may use his
> authority to review and overturn Chief Bosworth's decision affirming the
> Framework. Currently Mr. Rey has called for the record and has until Dec.
> 24th to decide if he will review the decision. We sent the message loud
and
> clear the first time. Everyone must push for step 2! Please fax a
letter
> to President Bush, Vice President Cheney and Under Sec. Rey underscoring
> your support to REVIEW THE DECISION and REMAND IT BACK to the Regional
> Forester with clear directions to correct the document.
>
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>
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>
>
> -----1. Call your Congressman AND BOTH SENATORS. Every Congressman and
> Senator may be reached at the Capitol Switchboard at (202) 225-3121. One
> number gets them all. Ask them to urge Mark Rey to undertake a 30 day
> discretionary review of the Sierra Nevada Plan. Save your cabin or other
> special use. Keep access to the forests. Don't allow the Forest Service
> to take your property by cutting off access.
>
> There is a temporary FREE NUMBER of (800) 648-3516. That will also get
> you every Congressman. This line may get busy. If so, use the regular
> switchboard number. Do not fail to make your calls.
>
>
> -----2. Use the point and click letter at:
>
> http://capwiz.com/cfa/issues/alert/?alertid=81163&type=PR and it only
> takes as long as it take to type in your name and address to send the
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>
>
> -----3. Fax your letters - DON'T MAIL - to: President's Fax 202-456-2461,
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>
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> -----4. Vice President Cheney's fax numbers: 202-456-7044, 202-456-2685,
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>
>
> -----5. Fax a copy of your letter to VP Cheney to Under Secretary Mark
Rey
> at
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>
>
> CALL YOUR FRIENDS
>
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>
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>
> Don't let Christmas stand in the way.
>
>
> MR REY MUST UNDER TAKE A DISCREATIONARY REVIEW
>
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>
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37713 From: Beckham, Michael <Michael.Beckham@b...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 3:01pm
Subject: Tripping into new areas...........
Well, my 3 sons (Fred Macmurry joke there somewhere..) and I are going to be hunting down in section 29, by Coronado Nat monument. Anyone familiar with the area? Any suggestions? I will be taking my faithful Jeep, and am looking for suggestions.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chatfield, Mike [mailto:Mike@AzChatfield.net]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:21 AM
To: 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [az_vjc] AzVJC Website this Weekend
Just a note to everyone that Crystaltech (our gracious provider of FREE web space) will be doing some network upgrades this weekend beginning Saturday at 12:30. If you experience problems connecting to the AzVJC website during this time, please just be patient.
Thanks,
- Mike
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37714 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 10:21am
Subject: Re: Re: Ramp Stats
And they still out did the YJ...so just think how good it will do when the tennis racket comes out and the tie comes off and its time to rock.
Sharky
37715 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 3:25pm
Subject: RE: Locker question
There is a Tech section you could post to for things like this.
Joey K
93YJ
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David R. W. Withers [mailto:dr_ww@h...]
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 10:25 AM
> To: 'Josh Edwards'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Locker question
>
>
> This is why we need a FAQ section on the website. I have
> asked this same question. The same could go for Lifts and
> other things like that. David R. W. Withers
> Mobile: 480.215.6992
> Coils, It's a TJ thing.......YOU wouldn't understand.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Josh Edwards [mailto:jv_edwards@h...]
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 10:14 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Locker question
>
>
> I'm a new jeep owner, and need some clarification. What is
> the diffrence between a locker, and a posi unit? Why is a
> locker better. And if I go the locker route, what is the
> diffrence between the Detriot locker, and the powertrax lock
> right locker. Thanks for the help.
>
> Josh
> 81 cj5
>
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37716 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 3:35pm
Subject: RE: Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
Chris,
So what you are saying is?... Joe's Jeep Sucks! :)
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:18 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
>
>
> I disagree, real Jeeps are not defined by how they get the
> way they are or even by headlight shape (sorry Joe and Scott)
> but rather by the person driving the Jeep.
>
> Attitude is everything.
>
> Happy Holidays.
>
> Chris K
>
> > From: "paparoach85251" <lespaparoach@m...>
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> >
> > Remember, reals jeeps are built not bought!!
> >
> > Les
>
>
>
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37717 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 3:48pm
Subject: [FS] (2)rs9000 9118s
Price: $40 for the pair
Contact: mhanna@earthlink.net
2 well used rs9000's mod# 9118. Came off YJ w/3" lift.
Have new boots avail and new control dial for each.
Lots of road grime and one small dent but work perfect.
Replaced w/ longer 9012's.
Sorry - price is firm.
Mike Hanna
37718 From: jb_wrnglr <JNB4PLS@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 3:47pm
Subject: Member sighting on 202
Turquoise TJ, black hardtop, around 1:30-2:00pm. Looked like it may
have been Rick Hall. I was in my truck, white Ford Supercrew. The
Jeeps at home waiting for some new bushing to go in this weekend.
Here's your wave
John Butler
37719 From: Bill Mish <yldkat55@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 4:02pm
Subject: Re: Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
Hmm, pretty big talk for guys who are scared of Axle Alley.
Bill Mish
1955 Willys CJ3B
----- Original Message -----
From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
To: "'Chris Krieg'" <rv6a@m...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 4:35 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
>
> Chris,
>
> So what you are saying is?... Joe's Jeep Sucks! :)
>
> Joey K
> 93YJ
> www.desertjeep.com
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
> > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:18 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> >
> >
> > I disagree, real Jeeps are not defined by how they get the
> > way they are or even by headlight shape (sorry Joe and Scott)
> > but rather by the person driving the Jeep.
> >
> > Attitude is everything.
> >
> > Happy Holidays.
> >
> > Chris K
> >
> > > From: "paparoach85251" <lespaparoach@m...>
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> > >
> > > Remember, reals jeeps are built not bought!!
> > >
> > > Les
> >
> >
> >
> >
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37720 From: bermboy2000 <bermboy@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 4:10pm
Subject: Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
I think "scared of" and "not set up for" are completely different and
Should be completely regarded as such. As I am not scared of Axle
Alley I am just not set up for it yet, I need lower gears and a front
locker.
See ya on the trail
Scott Maiden
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Bill Mish" <yldkat55@h...> wrote:
> Hmm, pretty big talk for guys who are scared of Axle Alley.
>
> Bill Mish
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
> To: "'Chris Krieg'" <rv6a@m...>; <az_vjc@y...>
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 4:35 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
>
>
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > So what you are saying is?... Joe's Jeep Sucks! :)
> >
> > Joey K
> > 93YJ
> > www.desertjeep.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
> > > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:18 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> > >
> > >
> > > I disagree, real Jeeps are not defined by how they get the
> > > way they are or even by headlight shape (sorry Joe and Scott)
> > > but rather by the person driving the Jeep.
> > >
> > > Attitude is everything.
> > >
> > > Happy Holidays.
> > >
> > > Chris K
> > >
> > > > From: "paparoach85251" <lespaparoach@m...>
> > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> > > >
> > > > Remember, reals jeeps are built not bought!!
> > > >
> > > > Les
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
37721 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 4:11pm
Subject: Re: Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
Did I ever say a real Jeeper had to do the harder trails to be a real
Jeeper. Real Jeepers don 't try to push others beyond their limits. That
can turn a real Jeep in to a real heap.
:-)
Chris K
On Friday, December 21, 2001, at 05:02 PM, Bill Mish wrote:
> Hmm, pretty big talk for guys who are scared of Axle Alley.
>
> Bill Mish
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
> To: "'Chris Krieg'" <rv6a@m...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 4:35 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
>
>
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>> So what you are saying is?... Joe's Jeep Sucks! :)
>>
>> Joey K
>> 93YJ
>> www.desertjeep.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:18 PM
>>> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
>>>
>>>
>>> I disagree, real Jeeps are not defined by how they get the
>>> way they are or even by headlight shape (sorry Joe and Scott)
>>> but rather by the person driving the Jeep.
>>>
>>> Attitude is everything.
>>>
>>> Happy Holidays.
>>>
>>> Chris K
>>>
>>>> From: "paparoach85251" <lespaparoach@m...>
>>>> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
>>>>
>>>> Remember, reals jeeps are built not bought!!
>>>>
>>>> Les
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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37722 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 4:17pm
Subject: Re: Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
Oh, I'm probably set up properly for it, but am not READY to do that
trail yet. Its a skill thing. I'd rather not do a trail I'm not ready
for. That leads to unnecessary breakage. Breakage is a part of Jeeping
but unnecessary breakage is counter productive.
Chris K
On Friday, December 21, 2001, at 05:10 PM, bermboy2000 wrote:
> I think "scared of" and "not set up for" are completely different and
> Should be completely regarded as such. As I am not scared of Axle
> Alley I am just not set up for it yet, I need lower gears and a front
> locker.
> See ya on the trail
> Scott Maiden
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Bill Mish" <yldkat55@h...> wrote:
>> Hmm, pretty big talk for guys who are scared of Axle Alley.
>>
>> Bill Mish
>> 1955 Willys CJ3B
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
>> To: "'Chris Krieg'" <rv6a@m...>; <az_vjc@y...>
>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 4:35 PM
>> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Chris,
>>>
>>> So what you are saying is?... Joe's Jeep Sucks! :)
>>>
>>> Joey K
>>> 93YJ
>>> www.desertjeep.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:18 PM
>>>> To: az_vjc@y...
>>>> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I disagree, real Jeeps are not defined by how they get the
>>>> way they are or even by headlight shape (sorry Joe and Scott)
>>>> but rather by the person driving the Jeep.
>>>>
>>>> Attitude is everything.
>>>>
>>>> Happy Holidays.
>>>>
>>>> Chris K
>>>>
>>>>> From: "paparoach85251" <lespaparoach@m...>
>>>>> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember, reals jeeps are built not bought!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Les
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>>>> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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37723 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 4:31pm
Subject: [FS] d44 axle shafts from cherokee
Price: $20. ea
Contact: mhanna@earthlink.net
30 spline axle shafts shafts out of a 76 cherokee chief.
Left and Right shaft avail. one is ~25" and other is ~33".
both still have berring pressod on.
drum &; carrier also available if u want them too.
Mike Hanna
37724 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 4:35pm
Subject: [FS] dana 30 front and dana 35 rear axles
Price: $70 ea
Contact: mhanna@earthlink.net
out of a 92jy <50k mikes.="mikes." front="front" compleate,="compleate," rear="rear" has="has" panhard="panhard" bracked="bracked" removed-="removed-" clean.3.07 factory gears.
Mike Hanna
37725 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 4:42pm
Subject: [FS] TJ dana 44 full float kit 5 on 4.5
Price: $550.
Contact: mhanna@earthlink.net
new. bearings greased and hub loosly assembled but never installed.
may consider tire trade for 36-37" (12.5 only) tires depending on condition, brand...
Mike Hanna
37726 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 4:47pm
Subject: [FS] Drive Shafts
Price: $35 ea
Contact: mhanna@earthlink.net
Factory Drine shafts from a 76 cherokee
one w/ cv colapsed length ~~26"
one no cv colapsed length ~~42"
Mike Hanna
37702 From: my1stjeep <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 0:02pm
Subject: Happy Holidays!!!
Nothing fancy here, just best wishes for you, your families and
friends during the holiday season.
Oh ok, MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!! and HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Remember the reason for the season.
Chris and Jannelle Radoccia
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37703 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 0:46pm
Subject: Re: recomendations
Can't do a body lift on an XJ - it's unibody.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: Joey Martinez
To: jeepclub
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:59 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] recomendations
I want to get my XJ a little higher but don't want change out my Ranco 9000's, is the only way to go a body lift? And if so what doe that entail?
TIA
Joey
94XJ
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37704 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 1:18pm
Subject: Re: Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
I disagree, real Jeeps are not defined by how they get the way they are or
even by headlight shape (sorry Joe and Scott) but rather by the person
driving the Jeep.
Attitude is everything.
Happy Holidays.
Chris K
> From: "paparoach85251" <lespaparoach@m...>
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
>
> Remember, reals jeeps are built not bought!!
>
> Les
37705 From: Robert Holmes <flamable_liquid@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 1:38pm
Subject: Built or Bought? (TJ RUBICON)
I agree with Chris, however I think Jeeping does have quite a bit to do with
the vehicle as well as the as the aditude otherwise wouldnt we just let
everyone into the Virtual <insert 4WD vehicle here) Club. I dont think that
building it makes it any more "Jeep" Infact it may be less of the
manufactured "Jeep" parts. I guess the purpose of building, bolting on, or
paying somone else to do both are just different means to making a trail
vehicle. the Fun comes when you see what breaks and what doesnt (in my mind
anyway). Its all Jeep the difference come with the person driving the Jeep
(as chris said) They build/bolt what they trust to get their Jeep and
themselves throught the trail hopefully in one piece.
~Robert Holmes
(proud owner of a "Built" Jeep
>From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
>To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:18:27 -0700
>
>I disagree, real Jeeps are not defined by how they get the way they are or
>even by headlight shape (sorry Joe and Scott) but rather by the person
>driving the Jeep.
>
>Attitude is everything.
>
>Happy Holidays.
>
>Chris K
>
> > From: "paparoach85251" <lespaparoach@m...>
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> >
> > Remember, reals jeeps are built not bought!!
> >
> > Les
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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37706 From: <hillb@s...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 1:38pm
Subject: Re: recomendations
If you only want a couple of inches more, you may want to look into a
spacer lift. There are a couple of places where you can get a "budget
boost" lift for the XJ for around or under $100. It consist of coil
spacers up front and either a block or an extended shackle in the back.
Hope this helps.
Ben
"DougB"
<azjeep@home. To: "jeepclub" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>, "Joey
com> Martinez" <joey@w...>
cc:
12/21/2001 Subject: Re: [az_vjc] recomendations
01:46 PM
Can't do a body lift on an XJ - it's unibody.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: Joey Martinez
To: jeepclub
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:59 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] recomendations
I want to get my XJ a little higher but don't want change out my Ranco
9000's, is the only way to go a body lift? And if so what doe that entail?
TIA
Joey
94XJ
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37707 From: Robert Holmes <flamable_liquid@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 1:42pm
Subject: [MB] Built or Bought? (TJ RUBICON)
This may help with the CJ/YJ/TJ.....and so one arguments
>From: "Robert Holmes" <flamable_liquid@h...>
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] Built or Bought? (TJ RUBICON)
>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 21:38:20
>
>I agree with Chris, however I think Jeeping does have quite a bit to do
>with
>the vehicle as well as the as the aditude otherwise wouldnt we just let
>everyone into the Virtual <insert 4WD vehicle here) Club. I dont think that
>building it makes it any more "Jeep" Infact it may be less of the
>manufactured "Jeep" parts. I guess the purpose of building, bolting on, or
>paying somone else to do both are just different means to making a trail
>vehicle. the Fun comes when you see what breaks and what doesnt (in my mind
>anyway). Its all Jeep the difference come with the person driving the Jeep
>(as chris said) They build/bolt what they trust to get their Jeep and
>themselves throught the trail hopefully in one piece.
>
>~Robert Holmes
>(proud owner of a "Built" Jeep
>
>
> >From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
> >To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> >Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:18:27 -0700
> >
> >I disagree, real Jeeps are not defined by how they get the way they are
>or
> >even by headlight shape (sorry Joe and Scott) but rather by the person
> >driving the Jeep.
> >
> >Attitude is everything.
> >
> >Happy Holidays.
> >
> >Chris K
> >
> > > From: "paparoach85251" <lespaparoach@m...>
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> > >
> > > Remember, reals jeeps are built not bought!!
> > >
> > > Les
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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37708 From: Halverson <byrnec@q...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 2:15pm
Subject: Re: Re: Ramp Stats
I have a specially built rack in the back of my jeep for my tennis racquets,
right next to my portable tie rack, so I don't think that they hinder my
driving at all.
John '99TJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "nilar708" <squarelights@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:17 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Ramp Stats
>
> I would like to know what a slightly built yj , in your opinion is?
> imo, wheelin performance is based highly on the driver. in the tj's
> case, the drivers tennis racket and tie hinder the performance of
> their driving.
>
> nick l. 93 yj soa
>
> --- In az_vjc@y
>
> ..., Fred <fredtj@h...> wrote:
> > Yup, those TJ's are really pretty neat (I have a '98).. I've seen
> > basically stock (30" tire and wheel package) TJ's go right over
> > obstacles that somewhat (slightly) built YJ's couldn't make. I'm
> not
> > putting down YJ's or CJ's, etc. I owned a CJ5 before this TJ :)
> It's
> > just that "right out of the box", TJ's are pretty interesting, not
> Axle
> > Alley ready, but still nice ;)
> >
> >
> > :)
> > Fred
> >
> > Siade, Randy wrote:
> >
> > >A guy I know just bought a 2002 TJ he is installing a Tera flex on
> it this
> > >weekend and wanted to know what his stock Jeep would ramp so he
> come by last
> > >night to use my ramp. Here are the results. Very impressive.
> > >
> > >With quick disconnects connected 450
> > >With quick disconnects, disconnected 760
> > >
> > >We will test it again after the lift is installed.
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >Randy Siade
> > >Engineering Manager
> > >Unisys Unigen Operations
> > >6161 W. Erie Street
> > >Chandler, AZ 85226
> > >Phone 480 783-5911
> > >Fax 480 783-5960
> > >Cell 602-329-0699
> > >randy.siade@u...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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> > >
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37709 From: nilar708 <squarelights@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 2:10pm
Subject: what is a good photo page to share my photos
pleas mail me off list thx.
37710 From: Joey Martinez <joey@w...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 2:21pm
Subject: tire carrier
Which is better for an XJ full-size spare, a roof rack or rear tire carrier?
Joey
94XJ
37711 From: nilar708 <squarelights@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 2:24pm
Subject: Re: Ramp Stats
lol, right on.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Halverson" <byrnec@q...> wrote:
> I have a specially built rack in the back of my jeep for my tennis
racquets,
> right next to my portable tie rack, so I don't think that they
hinder my
> driving at all.
> John '99TJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "nilar708" <squarelights@h...>
> To: <az_vjc@y...>
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:17 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Ramp Stats
>
>
> >
> > I would like to know what a slightly built yj , in your opinion
is?
> > imo, wheelin performance is based highly on the driver. in the
tj's
> > case, the drivers tennis racket and tie hinder the performance of
> > their driving.
> >
> > nick l. 93 yj soa
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y
> >
> > ..., Fred <fredtj@h...> wrote:
> > > Yup, those TJ's are really pretty neat (I have a '98).. I've
seen
> > > basically stock (30" tire and wheel package) TJ's go right over
> > > obstacles that somewhat (slightly) built YJ's couldn't make. I'm
> > not
> > > putting down YJ's or CJ's, etc. I owned a CJ5 before this TJ :)
> > It's
> > > just that "right out of the box", TJ's are pretty interesting,
not
> > Axle
> > > Alley ready, but still nice ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > :)
> > > Fred
> > >
> > > Siade, Randy wrote:
> > >
> > > >A guy I know just bought a 2002 TJ he is installing a Tera
flex on
> > it this
> > > >weekend and wanted to know what his stock Jeep would ramp so he
> > come by last
> > > >night to use my ramp. Here are the results. Very impressive.
> > > >
> > > >With quick disconnects connected 450
> > > >With quick disconnects, disconnected 760
> > > >
> > > >We will test it again after the lift is installed.
> > > >
> > > >Regards
> > > >Randy Siade
> > > >Engineering Manager
> > > >Unisys Unigen Operations
> > > >6161 W. Erie Street
> > > >Chandler, AZ 85226
> > > >Phone 480 783-5911
> > > >Fax 480 783-5960
> > > >Cell 602-329-0699
> > > >randy.siade@u...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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> > > >
> >
> >
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http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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37712 From: Gary MacLaren <gmaclaren@c...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 2:27pm
Subject: Fw: ***Friday, Dec 21st Deadline -- Save Forest Uses***
-----Original Message-----
From: Joan Beck <fourby@c...>
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
Date: Friday, December 21, 2001 10:48 AM
Subject: Fw: ***Friday, Dec 21st Deadline -- Save Forest Uses***
----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck Cushman <ccushman@p...>
To: <landrights-alert1@l...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:04 PM
Subject: ***Friday, Dec 21st Deadline -- Save Forest Uses***
> American Land Rights Association - Land Rights Network
> PO Box 400 - Battle Ground WA 98604
> Phone: 360-687-3087 - Fax: 360-687-2973 - Email: < alra@l... > -
> http://www.landrights.org
> Legislative Office: 508 First St SE - Washington DC 20003
> Phone: 202-251-3473 - Fax: 202-543-7126 - Email: landrightsnet@a...
>
>
>
> Friday, Dec 21st Deadline To Save Forest Use
>
> All Users Must Call Or Send A Message NOW!!
>
> What's the problem?
>
> December 24th is the deadline for USDA Under Secretary Mark Rey to decide
> whether or not to use his discretionary authority to review USFS Chief
> Bosworth's decision on the Sierra Nevada Forest Plan Amendment - the
> Framework - Final Environmental Impact Statement and Record of Decision.
>
> If this giant ecosystem management land grab is allowed to go forward by
> the Bush Administration, it will reduce or eliminate many user groups from
> 11 national forests in the Sierra Nevada Mountains of California and
> Nevada.
>
> Why should I care if I don't live in California?
>
> Because if this giant ecosystem land grab goes through, the Forest Service
> plans to use it as a model to control and manage all other national
> forests. All multiple-use and recreation in the forests will be reduced
> or eliminated.
>
> Background
>
> The Framework process has been on-going for years beginning in 1992 with
> the California spotted owl interim guidelines, meant to protect the owl
for
> only two years until final guidelines could be developed. The USFS has
> failed miserably over the last 9 years to define what protection measures
> were necessary and follow federal mandates allowing multiple use of 11
> national forests in the Sierra region. The Framework is their latest
> attempt.
>
> Decision Made by the USFS
>
> The Framework decision was signed on Jan. 12, 2001. By April over 200
> appeals were filed, noting hundreds of procedural and legal violations and
> deficiencies. Chief Bosworth affirmed the Framework FEIS and ROD, denying
> all appeals on Nov. 16,200.
>
> It implements an alternative that was never disclosed to the public during
> the process and will wipe out recreation cabins, grazing, timber
> harvesting, recreation and mining in the region. The USFS determined it
to
> be 100% right and the public 100% wrong on every single issue raised.
>
> TAKE ACTION THROUGH DECEMBER 21st
>
> At least 25,000 letters need to be faxed by Dec. 21st to the White House
> and the US Department of Agriculture.
>
> Don't assume someone else will do it.
>
> Do not fail to do your part.
>
> Our last effort generated 15,000 emails supporting a review by Under Sec.
> Rey. Now will users MUST GENERATE MORE.
>
> Mark Rey, Under Secretary of Natural Resources & Environment, may use his
> authority to review and overturn Chief Bosworth's decision affirming the
> Framework. Currently Mr. Rey has called for the record and has until Dec.
> 24th to decide if he will review the decision. We sent the message loud
and
> clear the first time. Everyone must push for step 2! Please fax a
letter
> to President Bush, Vice President Cheney and Under Sec. Rey underscoring
> your support to REVIEW THE DECISION and REMAND IT BACK to the Regional
> Forester with clear directions to correct the document.
>
>
> ACTION ITEMS!!!
>
> FLOOD THEIR OFFICES! AND DON'T LET UP!
>
>
> -----1. Call your Congressman AND BOTH SENATORS. Every Congressman and
> Senator may be reached at the Capitol Switchboard at (202) 225-3121. One
> number gets them all. Ask them to urge Mark Rey to undertake a 30 day
> discretionary review of the Sierra Nevada Plan. Save your cabin or other
> special use. Keep access to the forests. Don't allow the Forest Service
> to take your property by cutting off access.
>
> There is a temporary FREE NUMBER of (800) 648-3516. That will also get
> you every Congressman. This line may get busy. If so, use the regular
> switchboard number. Do not fail to make your calls.
>
>
> -----2. Use the point and click letter at:
>
> http://capwiz.com/cfa/issues/alert/?alertid=81163&type=PR and it only
> takes as long as it take to type in your name and address to send the
> letter.
>
>
> -----3. Fax your letters - DON'T MAIL - to: President's Fax 202-456-2461,
> Send e-mail to: president@w...
>
>
> -----4. Vice President Cheney's fax numbers: 202-456-7044, 202-456-2685,
> 202-456-9500. Send e-mail to: vice.president@w...
>
>
> -----5. Fax a copy of your letter to VP Cheney to Under Secretary Mark
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37713 From: Beckham, Michael <Michael.Beckham@b...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 3:01pm
Subject: Tripping into new areas...........
Well, my 3 sons (Fred Macmurry joke there somewhere..) and I are going to be hunting down in section 29, by Coronado Nat monument. Anyone familiar with the area? Any suggestions? I will be taking my faithful Jeep, and am looking for suggestions.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chatfield, Mike [mailto:Mike@AzChatfield.net]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:21 AM
To: 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [az_vjc] AzVJC Website this Weekend
Just a note to everyone that Crystaltech (our gracious provider of FREE web space) will be doing some network upgrades this weekend beginning Saturday at 12:30. If you experience problems connecting to the AzVJC website during this time, please just be patient.
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37714 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 10:21am
Subject: Re: Re: Ramp Stats
And they still out did the YJ...so just think how good it will do when the tennis racket comes out and the tie comes off and its time to rock.
Sharky
37715 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 3:25pm
Subject: RE: Locker question
There is a Tech section you could post to for things like this.
Joey K
93YJ
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David R. W. Withers [mailto:dr_ww@h...]
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 10:25 AM
> To: 'Josh Edwards'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Locker question
>
>
> This is why we need a FAQ section on the website. I have
> asked this same question. The same could go for Lifts and
> other things like that. David R. W. Withers
> Mobile: 480.215.6992
> Coils, It's a TJ thing.......YOU wouldn't understand.
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Josh Edwards [mailto:jv_edwards@h...]
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 10:14 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Locker question
>
>
> I'm a new jeep owner, and need some clarification. What is
> the diffrence between a locker, and a posi unit? Why is a
> locker better. And if I go the locker route, what is the
> diffrence between the Detriot locker, and the powertrax lock
> right locker. Thanks for the help.
>
> Josh
> 81 cj5
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37716 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 3:35pm
Subject: RE: Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
Chris,
So what you are saying is?... Joe's Jeep Sucks! :)
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:18 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
>
>
> I disagree, real Jeeps are not defined by how they get the
> way they are or even by headlight shape (sorry Joe and Scott)
> but rather by the person driving the Jeep.
>
> Attitude is everything.
>
> Happy Holidays.
>
> Chris K
>
> > From: "paparoach85251" <lespaparoach@m...>
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> >
> > Remember, reals jeeps are built not bought!!
> >
> > Les
>
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37717 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 3:48pm
Subject: [FS] (2)rs9000 9118s
Price: $40 for the pair
Contact: mhanna@earthlink.net
2 well used rs9000's mod# 9118. Came off YJ w/3" lift.
Have new boots avail and new control dial for each.
Lots of road grime and one small dent but work perfect.
Replaced w/ longer 9012's.
Sorry - price is firm.
Mike Hanna
37718 From: jb_wrnglr <JNB4PLS@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 3:47pm
Subject: Member sighting on 202
Turquoise TJ, black hardtop, around 1:30-2:00pm. Looked like it may
have been Rick Hall. I was in my truck, white Ford Supercrew. The
Jeeps at home waiting for some new bushing to go in this weekend.
Here's your wave
John Butler
37719 From: Bill Mish <yldkat55@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 4:02pm
Subject: Re: Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
Hmm, pretty big talk for guys who are scared of Axle Alley.
Bill Mish
1955 Willys CJ3B
----- Original Message -----
From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
To: "'Chris Krieg'" <rv6a@m...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 4:35 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
>
> Chris,
>
> So what you are saying is?... Joe's Jeep Sucks! :)
>
> Joey K
> 93YJ
> www.desertjeep.com
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
> > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:18 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> >
> >
> > I disagree, real Jeeps are not defined by how they get the
> > way they are or even by headlight shape (sorry Joe and Scott)
> > but rather by the person driving the Jeep.
> >
> > Attitude is everything.
> >
> > Happy Holidays.
> >
> > Chris K
> >
> > > From: "paparoach85251" <lespaparoach@m...>
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> > >
> > > Remember, reals jeeps are built not bought!!
> > >
> > > Les
> >
> >
> >
> >
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37720 From: bermboy2000 <bermboy@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 4:10pm
Subject: Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
I think "scared of" and "not set up for" are completely different and
Should be completely regarded as such. As I am not scared of Axle
Alley I am just not set up for it yet, I need lower gears and a front
locker.
See ya on the trail
Scott Maiden
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Bill Mish" <yldkat55@h...> wrote:
> Hmm, pretty big talk for guys who are scared of Axle Alley.
>
> Bill Mish
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
> To: "'Chris Krieg'" <rv6a@m...>; <az_vjc@y...>
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 4:35 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
>
>
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > So what you are saying is?... Joe's Jeep Sucks! :)
> >
> > Joey K
> > 93YJ
> > www.desertjeep.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
> > > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:18 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> > >
> > >
> > > I disagree, real Jeeps are not defined by how they get the
> > > way they are or even by headlight shape (sorry Joe and Scott)
> > > but rather by the person driving the Jeep.
> > >
> > > Attitude is everything.
> > >
> > > Happy Holidays.
> > >
> > > Chris K
> > >
> > > > From: "paparoach85251" <lespaparoach@m...>
> > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
> > > >
> > > > Remember, reals jeeps are built not bought!!
> > > >
> > > > Les
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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37721 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 4:11pm
Subject: Re: Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
Did I ever say a real Jeeper had to do the harder trails to be a real
Jeeper. Real Jeepers don 't try to push others beyond their limits. That
can turn a real Jeep in to a real heap.
:-)
Chris K
On Friday, December 21, 2001, at 05:02 PM, Bill Mish wrote:
> Hmm, pretty big talk for guys who are scared of Axle Alley.
>
> Bill Mish
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
> To: "'Chris Krieg'" <rv6a@m...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 4:35 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
>
>
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>> So what you are saying is?... Joe's Jeep Sucks! :)
>>
>> Joey K
>> 93YJ
>> www.desertjeep.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:18 PM
>>> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
>>>
>>>
>>> I disagree, real Jeeps are not defined by how they get the
>>> way they are or even by headlight shape (sorry Joe and Scott)
>>> but rather by the person driving the Jeep.
>>>
>>> Attitude is everything.
>>>
>>> Happy Holidays.
>>>
>>> Chris K
>>>
>>>> From: "paparoach85251" <lespaparoach@m...>
>>>> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
>>>>
>>>> Remember, reals jeeps are built not bought!!
>>>>
>>>> Les
>>>
>>>
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37722 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 4:17pm
Subject: Re: Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
Oh, I'm probably set up properly for it, but am not READY to do that
trail yet. Its a skill thing. I'd rather not do a trail I'm not ready
for. That leads to unnecessary breakage. Breakage is a part of Jeeping
but unnecessary breakage is counter productive.
Chris K
On Friday, December 21, 2001, at 05:10 PM, bermboy2000 wrote:
> I think "scared of" and "not set up for" are completely different and
> Should be completely regarded as such. As I am not scared of Axle
> Alley I am just not set up for it yet, I need lower gears and a front
> locker.
> See ya on the trail
> Scott Maiden
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Bill Mish" <yldkat55@h...> wrote:
>> Hmm, pretty big talk for guys who are scared of Axle Alley.
>>
>> Bill Mish
>> 1955 Willys CJ3B
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
>> To: "'Chris Krieg'" <rv6a@m...>; <az_vjc@y...>
>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 4:35 PM
>> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Chris,
>>>
>>> So what you are saying is?... Joe's Jeep Sucks! :)
>>>
>>> Joey K
>>> 93YJ
>>> www.desertjeep.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:18 PM
>>>> To: az_vjc@y...
>>>> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I disagree, real Jeeps are not defined by how they get the
>>>> way they are or even by headlight shape (sorry Joe and Scott)
>>>> but rather by the person driving the Jeep.
>>>>
>>>> Attitude is everything.
>>>>
>>>> Happy Holidays.
>>>>
>>>> Chris K
>>>>
>>>>> From: "paparoach85251" <lespaparoach@m...>
>>>>> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: NEW JEEP TJ RUBICON
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember, reals jeeps are built not bought!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Les
>>>>
>>>>
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37723 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 4:31pm
Subject: [FS] d44 axle shafts from cherokee
Price: $20. ea
Contact: mhanna@earthlink.net
30 spline axle shafts shafts out of a 76 cherokee chief.
Left and Right shaft avail. one is ~25" and other is ~33".
both still have berring pressod on.
drum &; carrier also available if u want them too.
Mike Hanna
37724 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 4:35pm
Subject: [FS] dana 30 front and dana 35 rear axles
Price: $70 ea
Contact: mhanna@earthlink.net
out of a 92jy <50k mikes.="mikes." front="front" compleate,="compleate," rear="rear" has="has" panhard="panhard" bracked="bracked" removed-="removed-" clean.3.07 factory gears.
Mike Hanna
37725 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 4:42pm
Subject: [FS] TJ dana 44 full float kit 5 on 4.5
Price: $550.
Contact: mhanna@earthlink.net
new. bearings greased and hub loosly assembled but never installed.
may consider tire trade for 36-37" (12.5 only) tires depending on condition, brand...
Mike Hanna
37726 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2001 4:47pm
Subject: [FS] Drive Shafts
Price: $35 ea
Contact: mhanna@earthlink.net
Factory Drine shafts from a 76 cherokee
one w/ cv colapsed length ~~26"
one no cv colapsed length ~~42"
Mike Hanna