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37602 From: my1stjeep <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 9:33am
Subject: Re: FW: I could use your help
Basically(in a nut shell) you are wiring up a toggle switch between
your ignition and the battery. You could also install it beween the
battery and starter, but that is a little more work. A simple switch
just like a for your KC's can be used and hidden where ever you
like(amongst your actual light switches can work too). When I had a
Baja Bug that was really decked out I used the dimmer switch in the
floor board(normally used for high beams). Worked great and with the
black carpet in it you could not even see the switch. This will also
allow your alarm to work, and hotwiring it or forcing the ignition
switch will not start the vehicle.
Most autoparts stores carry the switches.
Another option(someone else did this) put a valve in the fuel line,
put the switch to the valve on the floor board next to the drivers
seat. Switch it off and it would interrupt the gas flow, what ever
was in the line up to the valve would continue to keep the car
running, but within a 1/2 mile it would kill the vehicle. It worked
great one day when he was carjacked, as he got out he flipped the
switch, they drove about a 1/4 mile and it died. They could not
figure out how to start it again and fled the scene. If you switched
it when you parked it, they would not get far before it ran out of
gas.
Just a couple of idea's.
I am very sorry to hear about its theft. I will keep an eye out for
it.
Chris
"AzA"
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--- In az_vjc@y..., hillb@s... wrote:
>
> Man, I'm sorry to hear about your rig. I'll keep an eye out for it.
> This brings up a good point. I can't remember if it was here or on
JU that
> I read about some guys putting in a "home brew" starter/ignition
kill
> switch. Does anyone have any experience with this or heard of
anyone doing
> it.
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
> Grape Ape XJ
>
>
>
> "David R. W.
> Withers" To: "'Chatfield, Mike'"
<Mike@A...>,
> <dr_ww@hotmai <az_vjc@y...>
> l.com> cc:
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc]
FW: I could use your help
> 12/20/2001
> 09:11 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> No alarm with starter kill?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chatfield, Mike [mailto:Mike@A...]
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 8:48 AM
> To: 'az_vjc@y...'
> Subject: [az_vjc] FW: I could use your help
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Chastain [mailto:tazman85305@e...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:27 PM
> To: Webmaster@A...
> Subject: I could use your help
>
> I am a member of AZVJC and am looking for help. My XJ was
stolen last
> night from where I work(39th ave. & VanBuren) and the police
haven't
> found it. I have posted a reward poster on Off-Road.com and
would like
> to get everyones help here in keeping an eye out. Is there
anyway you
> could post the same thing here to get the members to help out?
Or
> maybe even a e-mail asking for help? Below is a link to my
post.
> This is the second time in less than 40 days that it has been
stolen
> and I really want it back. Thanks for any help.
> http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads//showflat.pl?Cat
>
=&Board=offroadjeepcherokee&Number=626322&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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37603 From: az_jeeper_mike <Mike@A...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 9:41am
Subject: Re: ASA Members
Bob,
Perhaps you could talk to the board at your next meeting about the
possibilities of an online registration.
In the meantime, I'll work on a web form where users can put their
info and the website will generate a page that they can print out and
send in with their money.
IMO, the easier you make something, the more likely people will
cooperate.
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., ROBERT NYBERG <r.nyberg@w...> wrote:
> Mike
>
> The applications have to go to the treasurer, Elliott, first and
then to
> myself. I am not sure if the Board would approve of this or not. The
> explanation on the AZVJC site would be great. Do you have a link to
the
> ASA site? You might want to ask Wendi Kawa our web person if you
haven't
> already. wendi@t... Thanks for all your support.
37604 From: Craig Micek <micekc@e...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 9:58am
Subject: Full Width or Less
I recently bought a set of axles out of a chevy 1 ton from an out of state seller. I was lead to believe the axles were from a single rear wheeled truck. Now that I have them I have found the rear to be a 14bolt from a cab & chassis dually but the front D60 is from a single rear wheeled truck. This means my front is 69" wide and the rear is only 62-63" wide. To much of a difference.
My choices are:
1. trade the rear for another that is wider. These 14 bolts are plentiful around here so this would be really cheap.
2. Narrow the front to match the rear . This would cost a few bucks, but would be a more reasonable width. The money to narrow it is not an issue. It would also fit on my trailer
I need some opinions here. Help me out. Let me know what you think.
Craig Micek
37605 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 10:01am
Subject: Re: ...and I lived to tell about it
WOW! 8-|
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http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
37606 From: <msa12171@a...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 5:03am
Subject: Re: ----- VIRUS HELP! ! ! ------
I've got it figured out. It was the software for the digital camera that corrupted the files. Fixed. Thanks for all the help.
Mike A.
37607 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 10:14am
Subject: Re: Bought a CJ-7
Something to consider. If you are planning to start with 35's and your
stock running gear, then your going to need to get wheels that are 5 on
5.5" pattern. The message you sent to Ross stated you were going to go
to D60's. In that case, your going to need to swap out your wheels for
8 lug versions AND tires to be a 16.5 (unless you do some interesting
stuff and are able to get 15's to fit over the D60 calipers and drums).
I'll be honest with you, if your going to do a build up anyway, you'll
save yourself some $$ in the long run by just jumping to those 1 ton
axles and getting the wheels and tires that you REALLY want.
I've got a CJ7 with stock running gear right now. I initially did just
what you are looking to do. I went and got some 33" boggers and 15X10"
wheels. I'm now in the midst of doing my axle upgrade and am going to
38's for tires. Wheels have to be swapped out! Not to mention, I spent
money on lockers for my stock axles. I REALLY should have just done it
all right the first time.
The flip side is if you intend to give your son an education on working
on it and how to build it at the same time!!!! Then you probably ARE
better off starting with the stock stuff, go through it all, learn what
works, and then move forward. Doing the SOA will teach you/him a lot
about springs, setup, etc. Go wheel it, break some stuff, learn, then
upgrade.
As for the engine, if the I6 is still good, I would just hang on to it
until it is dead. You WILL need to do gears if you go to 35's or 36's.
4.56's are going to be recommended. But then your getting into putting
money into axles that you know you will eventually get rid of.
SOA with some fender triimming and a mild body lift should fit 35's or
36's. You should consider putting an add-a-leaf into the spring pack or
taking another Wrangler pack and insert another main leaf just under the
main leaf of the pack. This will aid in long term durability and you
will need this setup if you go to 38's and full width 1 ton axles. I
think Ross is running 2.5" Wrangler springs SOA on his CJ7 with full
width axles and it works REALLY well with 38's. I'm going to try to do
the same but with only about 1.5" SOA using all stock Wrangler stuff
(adding a leaf, etc).
Food for thought.................
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Jay Eller (http://www.goodnet.com/~eller)
http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
37608 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 10:15am
Subject: Attn: Chirs Raddocia
Could you give me a reply off list?
Thanks,
Mike Baney
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37609 From: Bill Aylesworth <julbill@r...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 10:23am
Subject: FREE RIMS
Yes Free. They are not Jeep rims though. (sorry) 4
white spoke, steel, 15" x 7"?, 5 bolt rims. Came off
of a 89 ford ranger pickup. They have been taking up
space in my garage and I am tired of moving them.
Please, someone come and get them. They have to be of
some value to someone in the club. I live around
Elliot and the 101 in Chandler.
TIA,
Bill A.
55M38A1
work 602-597-4180
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37610 From: <fls82@a...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 5:36am
Subject: Re: Re: reversing shackles
Try:
www.jeeptech.com/susp/elkcahs
Jim B.
Flag., AZ
37611 From: stallonedev <stallonedev@y...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 10:39am
Subject: Wher can I find Pic of tire carriers.
Hello I am looking for a link or if someone has any pic of a cool
tire carrier that I can copy to put on my jeep I would appreciate
it. I just got done building a tire carrier and its so heavy that it
makes my jeep look like its doing a wheeley. I need to get a
diffrent design so that my *** on my jeep does not sag.
37612 From: stallonedev <stallonedev@y...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 10:47am
Subject: Problems with Jeep saging
I just finished making my tire carrier, it came out so nice however
it is making my whole back end sag, and it feels like I am towing
something behind me anybody have any suggestions to what I should do.
The tire carrier holds two jerry cans and sticks out pretty far. I am
thinking about making another tire carrier, but I worked so hard in
making this one that I do not want to make another. I am installing
new shocks RS9000 right now to see if it will correct my problem but
I think its my springs that are really soft. Anybody have any ideas
on what I can do to stop the sag. I have a 3in blk diamond
lift. Thanks Anthony.
37613 From: Patrick <dreamwev@m...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 10:50am
Subject: Re: Full Width or Less
Personally I would go with a wider rear axle. I have a dually 14 bolt axle and the width is not a big problem. The main problem is the huge bell shaped drums. They just beg to be hit on rocks when you use a standard offset or deeper wheel. I am planning on having custom wheels made that would draw the wheels in a few inches. Its cheaper and eaiser than narrowing the axle. If you really like the axles you do have, then have some dually style wheels made. They can be mounted either side out. For the narrower rear axle mount the wheels deep side out and up front the shallow side out. You do have to watch out for the hubs and make some decent measurement to make sure they don't stick out too much.
Patrick
BTW, Anyone have a wide front 60 around? I still need one. hehe
----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Micek
To: AzVJC
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 10:58 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Full Width or Less
I recently bought a set of axles out of a chevy 1 ton from an out of state seller. I was lead to believe the axles were from a single rear wheeled truck. Now that I have them I have found the rear to be a 14bolt from a cab & chassis dually but the front D60 is from a single rear wheeled truck. This means my front is 69" wide and the rear is only 62-63" wide. To much of a difference.
My choices are:
1. trade the rear for another that is wider. These 14 bolts are plentiful around here so this would be really cheap.
2. Narrow the front to match the rear . This would cost a few bucks, but would be a more reasonable width. The money to narrow it is not an issue. It would also fit on my trailer
I need some opinions here. Help me out. Let me know what you think.
Craig Micek
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
37614 From: <fls82@a...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 5:57am
Subject: HELLLLLLLLLLP
Have 2 YAHOO accounts .....
Both have "INVALID" passwords....
MUST change to DIGEST format...
YAHOO ... NO HELP at all!! ... Imagine that!
Happiest Holidays to All !
Jim B.
Flag., AZ
SCREW YAHOO !!!!!
37615 From: az_jeeper_mike <Mike@A...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 11:28am
Subject: [OT] Chico Rally Address by Brian Shul
Brian was an SR-71 pilot who took fantastic photos from the SR-71 and
published a book of same. He went on to take other flight related
photos (Blue Angels, etc.) and published several more books. He was
badly injured in an aircraft accident and still carries many burn
scars. He was invited to address a Rally at Chico CA.
Chico Rally Address:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AzVJC_OT/message/94
37616 From: Nick <nnote@a...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 0:33pm
Subject: Re: Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
Are stickers in the works?
Nick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...>
To: "'Marv Miller'" <mervalt@f...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "Azvgc (E-mail)" <az_vgc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 6:21 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
> Of Course the Arizona Virtual Gun Club (az_vgc) is real. There are enough
> people on this list who use, reload, conceal carry and have fun with
their
> weapons... it made sense to create a new group to talk about guns and gun
> related items.
> It is certainly better than cluttering up this group with gun talk...
> although I suspect that a great many Jeepers carry or use weapons, it
isn't
> really appropriate to force Jeepers to read about guns.
>
> So a new group was created.
>
> Make sense Marv? Come join us... it will be a hoot!
>
> Joe West
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Marv Miller [mailto:mervalt@f...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:29 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
> >
> >
> > this message has been selectively censored. It started as a
> > diatribe to
> > whatever. It has now been cut to 18 words.
> > Yeah, carry a BIG gun, SAFELY.
> > Yeah, have lots of fun.
> > marv
> > (no, I didn't count to see if all 18 showed up in this verbal spew.)
> > Now I don't just have to watch what I'm rolling over, I have
> > to watch my
> > back.....
> > I gotta think that a group of responsible 4x4's don't even
> > need to think
> > about firepower, especially with a group. However. I
> > wouldn't blame anyone
> > for bringing a piece along for "security" reasons. The
> > trouble, again, is
> > "THOSE OTHER PEOPLE" Let us not be "those other people". PEACE
> > Just 0.02$ IMHO
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
37617 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 0:31pm
Subject: Need a set of rear shackle mounts (CJ7)
I'm looking for a set of stock rear shackle mounts for a CJ7. They are the
pieces that bolt to the frame and hold the upper end of the shackle. If
anyone has any laying around that they would like to part with, I would be
more than willing to help with that effert.
TIA
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Jay Eller (http://www.goodnet.com/~eller)
http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
37618 From: David R. W. Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 0:42pm
Subject: Windshield replacement?
OK, I broke it on the Martinez canyon run, and it's really bothering me.
So I want to replace it. My insurance doesn't cover glass.
I first thought about Plexiglas, but that is too soft and will scratch. I called a glass place and they said for a DOT approved glass would run me $350
So pro's/con's suggestions?
David R. W. Withers
Desk: 480.551.4667
Mobile: 480.215.6992
37619 From: wishmaaker <wishmaaker@y...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 0:41pm
Subject: Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
Will they be small enough to fit on the gun, or will I just have to
taco it round it around the pistol? =)
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Nick" <nnote@a...> wrote:
> Are stickers in the works?
> Nick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...>
> To: "'Marv Miller'" <mervalt@f...>; <az_vjc@y...>
> Cc: "Azvgc (E-mail)" <az_vgc@y...>
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 6:21 AM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
>
>
> > Of Course the Arizona Virtual Gun Club (az_vgc) is real. There
are enough
> > people on this list who use, reload, conceal carry and have fun
with
> their
> > weapons... it made sense to create a new group to talk about guns
and gun
> > related items.
> > It is certainly better than cluttering up this group with gun
talk...
> > although I suspect that a great many Jeepers carry or use
weapons, it
> isn't
> > really appropriate to force Jeepers to read about guns.
> >
> > So a new group was created.
> >
> > Make sense Marv? Come join us... it will be a hoot!
> >
> > Joe West
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Marv Miller [mailto:mervalt@f...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:29 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
> > >
> > >
> > > this message has been selectively censored. It started as a
> > > diatribe to
> > > whatever. It has now been cut to 18 words.
> > > Yeah, carry a BIG gun, SAFELY.
> > > Yeah, have lots of fun.
> > > marv
> > > (no, I didn't count to see if all 18 showed up in this verbal
spew.)
> > > Now I don't just have to watch what I'm rolling over, I have
> > > to watch my
> > > back.....
> > > I gotta think that a group of responsible 4x4's don't even
> > > need to think
> > > about firepower, especially with a group. However. I
> > > wouldn't blame anyone
> > > for bringing a piece along for "security" reasons. The
> > > trouble, again, is
> > > "THOSE OTHER PEOPLE" Let us not be "those other people". PEACE
> > > Just 0.02$ IMHO
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
37620 From: RAM <ramaz@h...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 0:51pm
Subject: RE: Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
The stickers will have to be small enough to fit on handguns.
RAM
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick [mailto:nnote@a...]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:34 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
Are stickers in the works?
Nick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...>
To: "'Marv Miller'" <mervalt@f...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "Azvgc (E-mail)" <az_vgc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 6:21 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
> Of Course the Arizona Virtual Gun Club (az_vgc) is real. There are
> enough people on this list who use, reload, conceal carry and have
> fun with
their
> weapons... it made sense to create a new group to talk about guns and
> gun related items. It is certainly better than cluttering up this
> group with gun talk... although I suspect that a great many Jeepers
> carry or use weapons, it
isn't
> really appropriate to force Jeepers to read about guns.
>
> So a new group was created.
>
> Make sense Marv? Come join us... it will be a hoot!
>
> Joe West
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Marv Miller [mailto:mervalt@f...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:29 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
> >
> >
> > this message has been selectively censored. It started as a
> > diatribe to whatever. It has now been cut to 18 words.
> > Yeah, carry a BIG gun, SAFELY.
> > Yeah, have lots of fun.
> > marv
> > (no, I didn't count to see if all 18 showed up in this verbal spew.)
> > Now I don't just have to watch what I'm rolling over, I have
> > to watch my
> > back.....
> > I gotta think that a group of responsible 4x4's don't even
> > need to think
> > about firepower, especially with a group. However. I
> > wouldn't blame anyone
> > for bringing a piece along for "security" reasons. The
> > trouble, again, is
> > "THOSE OTHER PEOPLE" Let us not be "those other people". PEACE
> > Just 0.02$ IMHO
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
37621 From: David R. W. Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 0:58pm
Subject: RE: Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
Shouldn't this be on the other board?!
-----Original Message-----
From: RAM [mailto:ramaz@h...]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:51 PM
To: 'Nick'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; az_vgc
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
The stickers will have to be small enough to fit on handguns.
RAM
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick [mailto:nnote@a...]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:34 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
Are stickers in the works?
Nick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...>
To: "'Marv Miller'" <mervalt@f...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "Azvgc (E-mail)" <az_vgc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 6:21 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
> Of Course the Arizona Virtual Gun Club (az_vgc) is real. There are
> enough people on this list who use, reload, conceal carry and have
> fun with
their
> weapons... it made sense to create a new group to talk about guns and
> gun related items. It is certainly better than cluttering up this
> group with gun talk... although I suspect that a great many Jeepers
> carry or use weapons, it
isn't
> really appropriate to force Jeepers to read about guns.
>
> So a new group was created.
>
> Make sense Marv? Come join us... it will be a hoot!
>
> Joe West
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Marv Miller [mailto:mervalt@f...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:29 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
> >
> >
> > this message has been selectively censored. It started as a
> > diatribe to whatever. It has now been cut to 18 words. Yeah, carry
> > a BIG gun, SAFELY. Yeah, have lots of fun.
> > marv
> > (no, I didn't count to see if all 18 showed up in this verbal spew.)
> > Now I don't just have to watch what I'm rolling over, I have
> > to watch my
> > back.....
> > I gotta think that a group of responsible 4x4's don't even
> > need to think
> > about firepower, especially with a group. However. I
> > wouldn't blame anyone
> > for bringing a piece along for "security" reasons. The
> > trouble, again, is
> > "THOSE OTHER PEOPLE" Let us not be "those other people". PEACE
> > Just 0.02$ IMHO
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
37622 From: paparoach85251 <lespaparoach@m...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 1:06pm
Subject: Re: Windshield replacement?
I have a suggestion for you....get full glass coverage! :)
I carry full glass on both my vehicles and use it all the time. You
have to be able to get something for all of that money we throw away
on car insurance.
Les
--- In az_vjc@y..., "David R. W. Withers" <dr_ww@h...> wrote:
> OK, I broke it on the Martinez canyon run, and it's really
bothering me.
> So I want to replace it. My insurance doesn't cover glass.
> I first thought about Plexiglas, but that is too soft and will
scratch.
> I called a glass place and they said for a DOT approved glass would
run
> me $350
> So pro's/con's suggestions?
>
>
> David R. W. Withers
> Desk: 480.551.4667
> Mobile: 480.215.6992
37623 From: Chatfield, Mike <Mike@A...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 1:16pm
Subject: FW: AZVJC Web Site HOLIDAY WISHES from Bob & Vernelle Massey!!
-----Original Message-----
From: Vernellem@cs.com [mailto:Vernellem@cs.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:51 PM
To: Webmaster@azvjc.org
Subject: AZVJC Web Site HOLIDAY WISHES from Bob & Vernelle Massey!!
Hi Mike,
I thought the members of the Club might enjoy a little Holiday Jeep Humor but I am not sure how to post this, so I thought I would send it to you first. I am a habitual jeep "junkie" as I like to put projects together and sell them when I find another project that looks too fun to pass up. :o) My wife says I have a problem, because I start a new project before I have finished my last one. (I have 3 projects that I am working on at this time...Hmnn..Maybe she is right!) Now my wife and I have come up with a few warning signs to let you know if you might have a Jeep "Problem." If you can think of any other signs, please add them to the list. Call me at 623-583-1787. Oh and I might add, I am on the west side. (Some people call El Mirage "East California") A few of the group have bought things from me and I found out about this sight, when a member came to a Jeep Yard-Sale that I was having. Anyway, We just want to say Thanks, to all the Jeepers that have helped us live on a teacher's salary, buy purchasing parts and jeeps from us. And for also helping me afford my Jeep hobby!
Here's wishing Everyone at AZVJC .....
@@A VERY HAPPY HOLIDAY SEASON AND MAY YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT NEW YEAR!!!!@@@
*******WARNING SIGNS*******
1. You might have a Jeep Problem if....you have a least 1 jeep project on cement blocks in your yard.
2. You might have a Jeep Problem if....you are spending the "grocery" money to buy parts.
3. You might have a Jeep Problem if....you have a T-shirt, baseball cap, or a tattoo of Jeep, somewhere on your body.
4. You might have a Jeep Problem if....you are spending the "utility" money on Jeep parts.
5. You might have a Jeep Problem if....you have a least 4 friends that have Jeeps that don't run.
6. You might have a Jeep Problem if....you are spending the "beer" money on Jeep parts. (If you are spending jeep money on beer, there is a 12 step program for this).
7. You might have a Jeep Problem if....your Jeep expenses are higher than your house payment.
8. You might have a Jeep Problem if....you are working a 2nd job at a Jeep Parts store to help pay for your own parts.
9. You might have a Jeep Problem if....your girlfriend or wife threatens to leave you because of your Jeep obsession, and you aren't too upset about it.
10. You might have a Jeep Problem if....you have enough spare parts to have your own Jeep Parts Store.
11. You might have a Jeep Problem if....you have given up cigarettes and beer to help finance your always on going Jeep Project.
12. Women Jeepers are not immune to these symptoms although you might want to substitute chocolate for beer, as for vices that are sacrificed for our Love of the Almighty Jeep!
****I apologize for any politically incorrect opinions, and invite you to offer some more of your own observations of us "Jeep Junkies" that I may have missed!****
***Remember....Jeep stands for ***
*$$$$$$*
**$$$$**Just Empty Every Pocket**$$$$**
*******Have a Happy Holiday! *******
*Bob & Vernelle Massey*
37624 From: Michael Wixom <certifiedinsp@m...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 1:37pm
Subject: Re: Windshield replacement?
Call Flanders Glass on East Washington in phoenix they will put one in for around $100.00 602 254-1079. We use them for our commercial trucks and the quality is fine.
Mike Wixom
85 CJ-7
----- Original Message -----
From: David R. W. Withers
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:42 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Windshield replacement?
OK, I broke it on the Martinez canyon run, and it's really bothering me.
So I want to replace it. My insurance doesn't cover glass.
I first thought about Plexiglas, but that is too soft and will scratch. I called a glass place and they said for a DOT approved glass would run me $350
So pro's/con's suggestions?
David R. W. Withers
Desk: 480.551.4667
Mobile: 480.215.6992
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37625 From: JW <joew@a...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 1:22pm
Subject: RE: Windshield replacement?
David,
I have one suggestion for you:
Get zero deductible glass insurance... change companies if you have to.
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Wixom [mailto:certifiedinsp@msn.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 2:37 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; David R. W. Withers
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Windshield replacement?
Call Flanders Glass on East Washington in phoenix they will put one in for around $100.00 602 254-1079. We use them for our commercial trucks and the quality is fine.
Mike Wixom
85 CJ-7
----- Original Message -----
From: David R. W. Withers
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:42 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Windshield replacement?
OK, I broke it on the Martinez canyon run, and it's really bothering me.
So I want to replace it. My insurance doesn't cover glass.
I first thought about Plexiglas, but that is too soft and will scratch. I called a glass place and they said for a DOT approved glass would run me $350
So pro's/con's suggestions?
David R. W. Withers
Desk: 480.551.4667
Mobile: 480.215.6992
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37626 From: Jake Wagner <jakewagner@y...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 1:26pm
Subject: Stock Rim for TJ
Hi All:
I managed to mangle a stock rim pretty bad on the
Chivo Falls trip 2 weeks ago coming back up Three
Feathers.
I have a '00 TJ SE. I need atleast one rim, it's the
one that comes with the SE. I bent the rim the spare
is on about a year ago, so now I have one bent rim on
the Jeep and the spare is on the other. Thought maybe
someone had one lying around.
Please e-mail me off the list, thanks!
Bobberman
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37602 From: my1stjeep <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 9:33am
Subject: Re: FW: I could use your help
Basically(in a nut shell) you are wiring up a toggle switch between
your ignition and the battery. You could also install it beween the
battery and starter, but that is a little more work. A simple switch
just like a for your KC's can be used and hidden where ever you
like(amongst your actual light switches can work too). When I had a
Baja Bug that was really decked out I used the dimmer switch in the
floor board(normally used for high beams). Worked great and with the
black carpet in it you could not even see the switch. This will also
allow your alarm to work, and hotwiring it or forcing the ignition
switch will not start the vehicle.
Most autoparts stores carry the switches.
Another option(someone else did this) put a valve in the fuel line,
put the switch to the valve on the floor board next to the drivers
seat. Switch it off and it would interrupt the gas flow, what ever
was in the line up to the valve would continue to keep the car
running, but within a 1/2 mile it would kill the vehicle. It worked
great one day when he was carjacked, as he got out he flipped the
switch, they drove about a 1/4 mile and it died. They could not
figure out how to start it again and fled the scene. If you switched
it when you parked it, they would not get far before it ran out of
gas.
Just a couple of idea's.
I am very sorry to hear about its theft. I will keep an eye out for
it.
Chris
"AzA"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
--- In az_vjc@y..., hillb@s... wrote:
>
> Man, I'm sorry to hear about your rig. I'll keep an eye out for it.
> This brings up a good point. I can't remember if it was here or on
JU that
> I read about some guys putting in a "home brew" starter/ignition
kill
> switch. Does anyone have any experience with this or heard of
anyone doing
> it.
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
> Grape Ape XJ
>
>
>
> "David R. W.
> Withers" To: "'Chatfield, Mike'"
<Mike@A...>,
> <dr_ww@hotmai <az_vjc@y...>
> l.com> cc:
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc]
FW: I could use your help
> 12/20/2001
> 09:11 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> No alarm with starter kill?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chatfield, Mike [mailto:Mike@A...]
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 8:48 AM
> To: 'az_vjc@y...'
> Subject: [az_vjc] FW: I could use your help
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Chastain [mailto:tazman85305@e...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:27 PM
> To: Webmaster@A...
> Subject: I could use your help
>
> I am a member of AZVJC and am looking for help. My XJ was
stolen last
> night from where I work(39th ave. & VanBuren) and the police
haven't
> found it. I have posted a reward poster on Off-Road.com and
would like
> to get everyones help here in keeping an eye out. Is there
anyway you
> could post the same thing here to get the members to help out?
Or
> maybe even a e-mail asking for help? Below is a link to my
post.
> This is the second time in less than 40 days that it has been
stolen
> and I really want it back. Thanks for any help.
> http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads//showflat.pl?Cat
>
=&Board=offroadjeepcherokee&Number=626322&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
>
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37603 From: az_jeeper_mike <Mike@A...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 9:41am
Subject: Re: ASA Members
Bob,
Perhaps you could talk to the board at your next meeting about the
possibilities of an online registration.
In the meantime, I'll work on a web form where users can put their
info and the website will generate a page that they can print out and
send in with their money.
IMO, the easier you make something, the more likely people will
cooperate.
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., ROBERT NYBERG <r.nyberg@w...> wrote:
> Mike
>
> The applications have to go to the treasurer, Elliott, first and
then to
> myself. I am not sure if the Board would approve of this or not. The
> explanation on the AZVJC site would be great. Do you have a link to
the
> ASA site? You might want to ask Wendi Kawa our web person if you
haven't
> already. wendi@t... Thanks for all your support.
37604 From: Craig Micek <micekc@e...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 9:58am
Subject: Full Width or Less
I recently bought a set of axles out of a chevy 1 ton from an out of state seller. I was lead to believe the axles were from a single rear wheeled truck. Now that I have them I have found the rear to be a 14bolt from a cab & chassis dually but the front D60 is from a single rear wheeled truck. This means my front is 69" wide and the rear is only 62-63" wide. To much of a difference.
My choices are:
1. trade the rear for another that is wider. These 14 bolts are plentiful around here so this would be really cheap.
2. Narrow the front to match the rear . This would cost a few bucks, but would be a more reasonable width. The money to narrow it is not an issue. It would also fit on my trailer
I need some opinions here. Help me out. Let me know what you think.
Craig Micek
37605 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 10:01am
Subject: Re: ...and I lived to tell about it
WOW! 8-|
--
----------------------------
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http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
37606 From: <msa12171@a...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 5:03am
Subject: Re: ----- VIRUS HELP! ! ! ------
I've got it figured out. It was the software for the digital camera that corrupted the files. Fixed. Thanks for all the help.
Mike A.
37607 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 10:14am
Subject: Re: Bought a CJ-7
Something to consider. If you are planning to start with 35's and your
stock running gear, then your going to need to get wheels that are 5 on
5.5" pattern. The message you sent to Ross stated you were going to go
to D60's. In that case, your going to need to swap out your wheels for
8 lug versions AND tires to be a 16.5 (unless you do some interesting
stuff and are able to get 15's to fit over the D60 calipers and drums).
I'll be honest with you, if your going to do a build up anyway, you'll
save yourself some $$ in the long run by just jumping to those 1 ton
axles and getting the wheels and tires that you REALLY want.
I've got a CJ7 with stock running gear right now. I initially did just
what you are looking to do. I went and got some 33" boggers and 15X10"
wheels. I'm now in the midst of doing my axle upgrade and am going to
38's for tires. Wheels have to be swapped out! Not to mention, I spent
money on lockers for my stock axles. I REALLY should have just done it
all right the first time.
The flip side is if you intend to give your son an education on working
on it and how to build it at the same time!!!! Then you probably ARE
better off starting with the stock stuff, go through it all, learn what
works, and then move forward. Doing the SOA will teach you/him a lot
about springs, setup, etc. Go wheel it, break some stuff, learn, then
upgrade.
As for the engine, if the I6 is still good, I would just hang on to it
until it is dead. You WILL need to do gears if you go to 35's or 36's.
4.56's are going to be recommended. But then your getting into putting
money into axles that you know you will eventually get rid of.
SOA with some fender triimming and a mild body lift should fit 35's or
36's. You should consider putting an add-a-leaf into the spring pack or
taking another Wrangler pack and insert another main leaf just under the
main leaf of the pack. This will aid in long term durability and you
will need this setup if you go to 38's and full width 1 ton axles. I
think Ross is running 2.5" Wrangler springs SOA on his CJ7 with full
width axles and it works REALLY well with 38's. I'm going to try to do
the same but with only about 1.5" SOA using all stock Wrangler stuff
(adding a leaf, etc).
Food for thought.................
--
----------------------------
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http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
37608 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 10:15am
Subject: Attn: Chirs Raddocia
Could you give me a reply off list?
Thanks,
Mike Baney
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37609 From: Bill Aylesworth <julbill@r...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 10:23am
Subject: FREE RIMS
Yes Free. They are not Jeep rims though. (sorry) 4
white spoke, steel, 15" x 7"?, 5 bolt rims. Came off
of a 89 ford ranger pickup. They have been taking up
space in my garage and I am tired of moving them.
Please, someone come and get them. They have to be of
some value to someone in the club. I live around
Elliot and the 101 in Chandler.
TIA,
Bill A.
55M38A1
work 602-597-4180
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37610 From: <fls82@a...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 5:36am
Subject: Re: Re: reversing shackles
Try:
www.jeeptech.com/susp/elkcahs
Jim B.
Flag., AZ
37611 From: stallonedev <stallonedev@y...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 10:39am
Subject: Wher can I find Pic of tire carriers.
Hello I am looking for a link or if someone has any pic of a cool
tire carrier that I can copy to put on my jeep I would appreciate
it. I just got done building a tire carrier and its so heavy that it
makes my jeep look like its doing a wheeley. I need to get a
diffrent design so that my *** on my jeep does not sag.
37612 From: stallonedev <stallonedev@y...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 10:47am
Subject: Problems with Jeep saging
I just finished making my tire carrier, it came out so nice however
it is making my whole back end sag, and it feels like I am towing
something behind me anybody have any suggestions to what I should do.
The tire carrier holds two jerry cans and sticks out pretty far. I am
thinking about making another tire carrier, but I worked so hard in
making this one that I do not want to make another. I am installing
new shocks RS9000 right now to see if it will correct my problem but
I think its my springs that are really soft. Anybody have any ideas
on what I can do to stop the sag. I have a 3in blk diamond
lift. Thanks Anthony.
37613 From: Patrick <dreamwev@m...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 10:50am
Subject: Re: Full Width or Less
Personally I would go with a wider rear axle. I have a dually 14 bolt axle and the width is not a big problem. The main problem is the huge bell shaped drums. They just beg to be hit on rocks when you use a standard offset or deeper wheel. I am planning on having custom wheels made that would draw the wheels in a few inches. Its cheaper and eaiser than narrowing the axle. If you really like the axles you do have, then have some dually style wheels made. They can be mounted either side out. For the narrower rear axle mount the wheels deep side out and up front the shallow side out. You do have to watch out for the hubs and make some decent measurement to make sure they don't stick out too much.
Patrick
BTW, Anyone have a wide front 60 around? I still need one. hehe
----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Micek
To: AzVJC
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 10:58 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Full Width or Less
I recently bought a set of axles out of a chevy 1 ton from an out of state seller. I was lead to believe the axles were from a single rear wheeled truck. Now that I have them I have found the rear to be a 14bolt from a cab & chassis dually but the front D60 is from a single rear wheeled truck. This means my front is 69" wide and the rear is only 62-63" wide. To much of a difference.
My choices are:
1. trade the rear for another that is wider. These 14 bolts are plentiful around here so this would be really cheap.
2. Narrow the front to match the rear . This would cost a few bucks, but would be a more reasonable width. The money to narrow it is not an issue. It would also fit on my trailer
I need some opinions here. Help me out. Let me know what you think.
Craig Micek
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37614 From: <fls82@a...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 5:57am
Subject: HELLLLLLLLLLP
Have 2 YAHOO accounts .....
Both have "INVALID" passwords....
MUST change to DIGEST format...
YAHOO ... NO HELP at all!! ... Imagine that!
Happiest Holidays to All !
Jim B.
Flag., AZ
SCREW YAHOO !!!!!
37615 From: az_jeeper_mike <Mike@A...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 11:28am
Subject: [OT] Chico Rally Address by Brian Shul
Brian was an SR-71 pilot who took fantastic photos from the SR-71 and
published a book of same. He went on to take other flight related
photos (Blue Angels, etc.) and published several more books. He was
badly injured in an aircraft accident and still carries many burn
scars. He was invited to address a Rally at Chico CA.
Chico Rally Address:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AzVJC_OT/message/94
37616 From: Nick <nnote@a...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 0:33pm
Subject: Re: Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
Are stickers in the works?
Nick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...>
To: "'Marv Miller'" <mervalt@f...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "Azvgc (E-mail)" <az_vgc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 6:21 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
> Of Course the Arizona Virtual Gun Club (az_vgc) is real. There are enough
> people on this list who use, reload, conceal carry and have fun with
their
> weapons... it made sense to create a new group to talk about guns and gun
> related items.
> It is certainly better than cluttering up this group with gun talk...
> although I suspect that a great many Jeepers carry or use weapons, it
isn't
> really appropriate to force Jeepers to read about guns.
>
> So a new group was created.
>
> Make sense Marv? Come join us... it will be a hoot!
>
> Joe West
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Marv Miller [mailto:mervalt@f...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:29 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
> >
> >
> > this message has been selectively censored. It started as a
> > diatribe to
> > whatever. It has now been cut to 18 words.
> > Yeah, carry a BIG gun, SAFELY.
> > Yeah, have lots of fun.
> > marv
> > (no, I didn't count to see if all 18 showed up in this verbal spew.)
> > Now I don't just have to watch what I'm rolling over, I have
> > to watch my
> > back.....
> > I gotta think that a group of responsible 4x4's don't even
> > need to think
> > about firepower, especially with a group. However. I
> > wouldn't blame anyone
> > for bringing a piece along for "security" reasons. The
> > trouble, again, is
> > "THOSE OTHER PEOPLE" Let us not be "those other people". PEACE
> > Just 0.02$ IMHO
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
37617 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 0:31pm
Subject: Need a set of rear shackle mounts (CJ7)
I'm looking for a set of stock rear shackle mounts for a CJ7. They are the
pieces that bolt to the frame and hold the upper end of the shackle. If
anyone has any laying around that they would like to part with, I would be
more than willing to help with that effert.
TIA
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http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
37618 From: David R. W. Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 0:42pm
Subject: Windshield replacement?
OK, I broke it on the Martinez canyon run, and it's really bothering me.
So I want to replace it. My insurance doesn't cover glass.
I first thought about Plexiglas, but that is too soft and will scratch. I called a glass place and they said for a DOT approved glass would run me $350
So pro's/con's suggestions?
David R. W. Withers
Desk: 480.551.4667
Mobile: 480.215.6992
37619 From: wishmaaker <wishmaaker@y...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 0:41pm
Subject: Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
Will they be small enough to fit on the gun, or will I just have to
taco it round it around the pistol? =)
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Nick" <nnote@a...> wrote:
> Are stickers in the works?
> Nick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...>
> To: "'Marv Miller'" <mervalt@f...>; <az_vjc@y...>
> Cc: "Azvgc (E-mail)" <az_vgc@y...>
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 6:21 AM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
>
>
> > Of Course the Arizona Virtual Gun Club (az_vgc) is real. There
are enough
> > people on this list who use, reload, conceal carry and have fun
with
> their
> > weapons... it made sense to create a new group to talk about guns
and gun
> > related items.
> > It is certainly better than cluttering up this group with gun
talk...
> > although I suspect that a great many Jeepers carry or use
weapons, it
> isn't
> > really appropriate to force Jeepers to read about guns.
> >
> > So a new group was created.
> >
> > Make sense Marv? Come join us... it will be a hoot!
> >
> > Joe West
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Marv Miller [mailto:mervalt@f...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:29 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
> > >
> > >
> > > this message has been selectively censored. It started as a
> > > diatribe to
> > > whatever. It has now been cut to 18 words.
> > > Yeah, carry a BIG gun, SAFELY.
> > > Yeah, have lots of fun.
> > > marv
> > > (no, I didn't count to see if all 18 showed up in this verbal
spew.)
> > > Now I don't just have to watch what I'm rolling over, I have
> > > to watch my
> > > back.....
> > > I gotta think that a group of responsible 4x4's don't even
> > > need to think
> > > about firepower, especially with a group. However. I
> > > wouldn't blame anyone
> > > for bringing a piece along for "security" reasons. The
> > > trouble, again, is
> > > "THOSE OTHER PEOPLE" Let us not be "those other people". PEACE
> > > Just 0.02$ IMHO
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
37620 From: RAM <ramaz@h...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 0:51pm
Subject: RE: Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
The stickers will have to be small enough to fit on handguns.
RAM
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick [mailto:nnote@a...]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:34 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
Are stickers in the works?
Nick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...>
To: "'Marv Miller'" <mervalt@f...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "Azvgc (E-mail)" <az_vgc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 6:21 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
> Of Course the Arizona Virtual Gun Club (az_vgc) is real. There are
> enough people on this list who use, reload, conceal carry and have
> fun with
their
> weapons... it made sense to create a new group to talk about guns and
> gun related items. It is certainly better than cluttering up this
> group with gun talk... although I suspect that a great many Jeepers
> carry or use weapons, it
isn't
> really appropriate to force Jeepers to read about guns.
>
> So a new group was created.
>
> Make sense Marv? Come join us... it will be a hoot!
>
> Joe West
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Marv Miller [mailto:mervalt@f...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:29 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
> >
> >
> > this message has been selectively censored. It started as a
> > diatribe to whatever. It has now been cut to 18 words.
> > Yeah, carry a BIG gun, SAFELY.
> > Yeah, have lots of fun.
> > marv
> > (no, I didn't count to see if all 18 showed up in this verbal spew.)
> > Now I don't just have to watch what I'm rolling over, I have
> > to watch my
> > back.....
> > I gotta think that a group of responsible 4x4's don't even
> > need to think
> > about firepower, especially with a group. However. I
> > wouldn't blame anyone
> > for bringing a piece along for "security" reasons. The
> > trouble, again, is
> > "THOSE OTHER PEOPLE" Let us not be "those other people". PEACE
> > Just 0.02$ IMHO
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
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37621 From: David R. W. Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 0:58pm
Subject: RE: Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
Shouldn't this be on the other board?!
-----Original Message-----
From: RAM [mailto:ramaz@h...]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:51 PM
To: 'Nick'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; az_vgc
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
The stickers will have to be small enough to fit on handguns.
RAM
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick [mailto:nnote@a...]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:34 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
Are stickers in the works?
Nick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...>
To: "'Marv Miller'" <mervalt@f...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "Azvgc (E-mail)" <az_vgc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 6:21 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
> Of Course the Arizona Virtual Gun Club (az_vgc) is real. There are
> enough people on this list who use, reload, conceal carry and have
> fun with
their
> weapons... it made sense to create a new group to talk about guns and
> gun related items. It is certainly better than cluttering up this
> group with gun talk... although I suspect that a great many Jeepers
> carry or use weapons, it
isn't
> really appropriate to force Jeepers to read about guns.
>
> So a new group was created.
>
> Make sense Marv? Come join us... it will be a hoot!
>
> Joe West
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Marv Miller [mailto:mervalt@f...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:29 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: [az_az-vgc is REAL (just ask YAHOO)
> >
> >
> > this message has been selectively censored. It started as a
> > diatribe to whatever. It has now been cut to 18 words. Yeah, carry
> > a BIG gun, SAFELY. Yeah, have lots of fun.
> > marv
> > (no, I didn't count to see if all 18 showed up in this verbal spew.)
> > Now I don't just have to watch what I'm rolling over, I have
> > to watch my
> > back.....
> > I gotta think that a group of responsible 4x4's don't even
> > need to think
> > about firepower, especially with a group. However. I
> > wouldn't blame anyone
> > for bringing a piece along for "security" reasons. The
> > trouble, again, is
> > "THOSE OTHER PEOPLE" Let us not be "those other people". PEACE
> > Just 0.02$ IMHO
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
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37622 From: paparoach85251 <lespaparoach@m...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 1:06pm
Subject: Re: Windshield replacement?
I have a suggestion for you....get full glass coverage! :)
I carry full glass on both my vehicles and use it all the time. You
have to be able to get something for all of that money we throw away
on car insurance.
Les
--- In az_vjc@y..., "David R. W. Withers" <dr_ww@h...> wrote:
> OK, I broke it on the Martinez canyon run, and it's really
bothering me.
> So I want to replace it. My insurance doesn't cover glass.
> I first thought about Plexiglas, but that is too soft and will
scratch.
> I called a glass place and they said for a DOT approved glass would
run
> me $350
> So pro's/con's suggestions?
>
>
> David R. W. Withers
> Desk: 480.551.4667
> Mobile: 480.215.6992
37623 From: Chatfield, Mike <Mike@A...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 1:16pm
Subject: FW: AZVJC Web Site HOLIDAY WISHES from Bob & Vernelle Massey!!
-----Original Message-----
From: Vernellem@cs.com [mailto:Vernellem@cs.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:51 PM
To: Webmaster@azvjc.org
Subject: AZVJC Web Site HOLIDAY WISHES from Bob & Vernelle Massey!!
Hi Mike,
I thought the members of the Club might enjoy a little Holiday Jeep Humor but I am not sure how to post this, so I thought I would send it to you first. I am a habitual jeep "junkie" as I like to put projects together and sell them when I find another project that looks too fun to pass up. :o) My wife says I have a problem, because I start a new project before I have finished my last one. (I have 3 projects that I am working on at this time...Hmnn..Maybe she is right!) Now my wife and I have come up with a few warning signs to let you know if you might have a Jeep "Problem." If you can think of any other signs, please add them to the list. Call me at 623-583-1787. Oh and I might add, I am on the west side. (Some people call El Mirage "East California") A few of the group have bought things from me and I found out about this sight, when a member came to a Jeep Yard-Sale that I was having. Anyway, We just want to say Thanks, to all the Jeepers that have helped us live on a teacher's salary, buy purchasing parts and jeeps from us. And for also helping me afford my Jeep hobby!
Here's wishing Everyone at AZVJC .....
@@A VERY HAPPY HOLIDAY SEASON AND MAY YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT NEW YEAR!!!!@@@
*******WARNING SIGNS*******
1. You might have a Jeep Problem if....you have a least 1 jeep project on cement blocks in your yard.
2. You might have a Jeep Problem if....you are spending the "grocery" money to buy parts.
3. You might have a Jeep Problem if....you have a T-shirt, baseball cap, or a tattoo of Jeep, somewhere on your body.
4. You might have a Jeep Problem if....you are spending the "utility" money on Jeep parts.
5. You might have a Jeep Problem if....you have a least 4 friends that have Jeeps that don't run.
6. You might have a Jeep Problem if....you are spending the "beer" money on Jeep parts. (If you are spending jeep money on beer, there is a 12 step program for this).
7. You might have a Jeep Problem if....your Jeep expenses are higher than your house payment.
8. You might have a Jeep Problem if....you are working a 2nd job at a Jeep Parts store to help pay for your own parts.
9. You might have a Jeep Problem if....your girlfriend or wife threatens to leave you because of your Jeep obsession, and you aren't too upset about it.
10. You might have a Jeep Problem if....you have enough spare parts to have your own Jeep Parts Store.
11. You might have a Jeep Problem if....you have given up cigarettes and beer to help finance your always on going Jeep Project.
12. Women Jeepers are not immune to these symptoms although you might want to substitute chocolate for beer, as for vices that are sacrificed for our Love of the Almighty Jeep!
****I apologize for any politically incorrect opinions, and invite you to offer some more of your own observations of us "Jeep Junkies" that I may have missed!****
***Remember....Jeep stands for ***
*$$$$$$*
**$$$$**Just Empty Every Pocket**$$$$**
*******Have a Happy Holiday! *******
*Bob & Vernelle Massey*
37624 From: Michael Wixom <certifiedinsp@m...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 1:37pm
Subject: Re: Windshield replacement?
Call Flanders Glass on East Washington in phoenix they will put one in for around $100.00 602 254-1079. We use them for our commercial trucks and the quality is fine.
Mike Wixom
85 CJ-7
----- Original Message -----
From: David R. W. Withers
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:42 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Windshield replacement?
OK, I broke it on the Martinez canyon run, and it's really bothering me.
So I want to replace it. My insurance doesn't cover glass.
I first thought about Plexiglas, but that is too soft and will scratch. I called a glass place and they said for a DOT approved glass would run me $350
So pro's/con's suggestions?
David R. W. Withers
Desk: 480.551.4667
Mobile: 480.215.6992
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
37625 From: JW <joew@a...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 1:22pm
Subject: RE: Windshield replacement?
David,
I have one suggestion for you:
Get zero deductible glass insurance... change companies if you have to.
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Wixom [mailto:certifiedinsp@msn.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 2:37 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; David R. W. Withers
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Windshield replacement?
Call Flanders Glass on East Washington in phoenix they will put one in for around $100.00 602 254-1079. We use them for our commercial trucks and the quality is fine.
Mike Wixom
85 CJ-7
----- Original Message -----
From: David R. W. Withers
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:42 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Windshield replacement?
OK, I broke it on the Martinez canyon run, and it's really bothering me.
So I want to replace it. My insurance doesn't cover glass.
I first thought about Plexiglas, but that is too soft and will scratch. I called a glass place and they said for a DOT approved glass would run me $350
So pro's/con's suggestions?
David R. W. Withers
Desk: 480.551.4667
Mobile: 480.215.6992
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
37626 From: Jake Wagner <jakewagner@y...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2001 1:26pm
Subject: Stock Rim for TJ
Hi All:
I managed to mangle a stock rim pretty bad on the
Chivo Falls trip 2 weeks ago coming back up Three
Feathers.
I have a '00 TJ SE. I need atleast one rim, it's the
one that comes with the SE. I bent the rim the spare
is on about a year ago, so now I have one bent rim on
the Jeep and the spare is on the other. Thought maybe
someone had one lying around.
Please e-mail me off the list, thanks!
Bobberman
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