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37126 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 10:29pm
Subject: Re: Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
Yup...if we can't get in in the bag....
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Holmes" <flamable_liquid@h...>
To: <azjeep@h...>; <minihummer@w...>;
<kermit@e...>; <byrnec@q...>; <scnix1@h...>;
<Niitoyis@w...>; <charles.h.bab****@i...>;
<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; <stevegraham@w...>
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
> So is the plan just to drag this thing through the dirt and hills and
stuff?
>
>
> >From: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
> >To: <minihummer@w...>, "Len Sullivan"
<kermit@e...>,
> >"Halverson" <byrnec@q...>, "Nixon, Scott" <scnix1@h...>, "Gary
> >Holmes" <Niitoyis@w...>, "Robert Holmes"
> ><flamable_liquid@h...>, "Bab****, Charles H"
> ><charles.h.bab****@i...>, "az_vjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>,
"graham,
> >steve" <stevegraham@w...>
> >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
> >Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 23:21:13 -0700
> >
> >Sounds good to me. I can bring trash bags for the general clean up...if
Len
> >can bring one big enough to put the burned truck in.
> >
> >Doug
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "linda luik" <minihummer@w...>
> >To: "Len Sullivan" <kermit@e...>; "Halverson"
> ><byrnec@q...>;
> >"Nixon, Scott" <scnix1@h...>; "DougB" <azjeep@h...>; "Gary
Holmes"
> ><Niitoyis@w...>; "Robert Holmes"
<flamable_liquid@h...>;
> >"Bab****, Charles H" <charles.h.bab****@i...>; "az_vjc"
> ><az_vjc@egroups.com>; "graham, steve" <stevegraham@w...>
> >Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 7:04 PM
> >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
> >
> >
> > > Well, so far it looks like we have a pretty good turnout. I will post
> > > this as trail ride for Saturday, Dec 29, if that's okay with everyone.
I
> > > will contact the FS with the date. Meet at Butcher Jones at
9:00-9:30am
> > > and go from there. I hope it doesn't rain!
> > >
> > > Sign ups so far are:
> > >
> > > LenS
> > > JohnH
> > > DougB
> > > GaryH
> > > RobertH
> > > CharlesB
> > > SteveG
> > > ScottN?
> > >
> > > LindaL
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ~Robert Holmes
>
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37127 From: Jason B <the_anubis@h...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 10:40pm
Subject: Re: Heater probs. cont.
maybe check the rotation of the water pump, if the belt has been changed it might be going the wrong way.
-Jason
92 YJ
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 8:26 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Heater probs. cont.
Ok, so still no heat.
I put in a new thermostat about 8 months ago. I flushed and redid the whole cooling system at that time, the flow through the heater core was fine. I have checked all wiring and slider controls. There is no flow shutoff valve or anything in the hoses going to the core.
After I got off the highway tonight I reached back into the vent to feel the core and it was cold!
Ok....So now what?!
Nick
oh ya 93 yj 2.5
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37128 From: T.J. Nosmo-King <ice626@h...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 11:14pm
Subject: RE: Re: advertisements
no...this was way last year when yahoo first started putting the ads in the messages....everyone complained about them, then someone in the group volunteered to pay off yahoo.....could it have been the old webmaster, yuccaman?????
TJ Gill
75 CJ5
327/TH350
If we aren't supposed to eat animals, why are they made with meat???
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37129 From: bobandamanda2001 <dookie78@j...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 4:30am
Subject: TJ rear shock mounts
Does anyone have any comments, good, bad, or otherwise, on either the
Teraflex rear shock mount relocation brackets or the Rubicon weld on
shock mounts? I need to get my shocks mounted properly (shock body
down). Anyone have pictures on the completed install? TIA for the
info.
Bob Kennedy
99 TJ
37130 From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 5:21am
Subject: tire pressure?
Hi Gang,
I finally got my hands on some second hand tires, but I'm having trouble
with tire pressure..... the guy in the local tire shop tells me that all
tires should be inflated to 35psi when cold. Last time I ever go there.....
The tires are Mickey Thompson baja claws (the bias belted, not the radials)
in the 31x11.5 r15 flavor, 8" rims. The jeep is a Ssangyong Korando,
similar to a CJ-7 in both appearance and weight. Trail pressures are no
problem, but where do I start with road pressures? At 35 the tire is
bulging ridiculously in the center, would 30psi when cold still be too
much? Just a ballpark figure to get me going.....
Thanks again,
Shaun
South Korea
37131 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 5:45am
Subject: Re: TJ rear shock mounts
The RE brackets are very strong, and they allow you some ability to rotate
the brackets up a bit. I have a set but I haven't put them on yet since my
stock ones are still hanging in there (hard to imagine how, thought ...I
bang them a lot). No real comments here on the Tera, since I have no
experience.
If your concerned about the cans hitting the lower spring pad, one option is
to trim the lower pad to clear the cans...which is what I did.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "bobandamanda2001" <dookie78@j...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:30 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] TJ rear shock mounts
> Does anyone have any comments, good, bad, or otherwise, on either the
> Teraflex rear shock mount relocation brackets or the Rubicon weld on
> shock mounts? I need to get my shocks mounted properly (shock body
> down). Anyone have pictures on the completed install? TIA for the
> info.
>
> Bob Kennedy
> 99 TJ
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
37132 From: Fred <fredtj@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 5:54am
Subject: Re: TJ rear shock mounts
I have the Tera rear shock mount relocators. They work just fine. I've
had them for, mmmmm, maybe a year. They've been wacked good and no
problems at all. Be aware that they lengthen the shock close to 1 inch
though. In other words, they move the shock up about 1", so you'll have
to check to make sure that you aren't overcompressing the shocks, after
you install the relocators. On the flip side of that, they allow about
1" more droop ;)
Cheers,
Fred
bobandamanda2001 wrote:
>Does anyone have any comments, good, bad, or otherwise, on either the
>Teraflex rear shock mount relocation brackets or the Rubicon weld on
>shock mounts? I need to get my shocks mounted properly (shock body
>down). Anyone have pictures on the completed install? TIA for the
>info.
>
>Bob Kennedy
>99 TJ
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
37133 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 5:54am
Subject: RE: TJ rear shock mounts
Bob,
Quite a few of us on this list have installed the Rubicon Express weld on
mounts and I would definitely recommend them over the shock relocators.
Cutting off the old shock mounts is pretty easy and welding the new ones on
is straightforward. If you are not a welder, take it to Hunter Offroad (I'm
sure John could slip you in) or your favorite fab shop. As Doug mentioned,
you can clock the mounts so that you don't get any shock interference with
the coil spring mount (which also increases your ground clearance) AND you
can move the mounts outboard a bit so that you are less likely to hit them.
I have some pictures somewhere; I'll try to find and post them.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bobandamanda2001 [mailto:dookie78@j...]
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:31 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] TJ rear shock mounts
>
>
> Does anyone have any comments, good, bad, or otherwise, on either the
> Teraflex rear shock mount relocation brackets or the Rubicon weld on
> shock mounts? I need to get my shocks mounted properly (shock body
> down). Anyone have pictures on the completed install? TIA for the
> info.
>
> Bob Kennedy
> 99 TJ
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
37134 From: Ralph Williams <ralphbw@q...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 6:00am
Subject: Re: tire pressure?
Put a chalk line across each tire, drive a few hundred feet (100
meters) in a straight line on a level asphalt surface, stop, look
at the chalk lines. You want the lines to wear off evenly across
the full width of the tread. Adjust air pressure accordingly.
Repeat the test.
Hope this helps,
Ralph
imagineero wrote:
>
> Hi Gang,
> I finally got my hands on some second hand tires, but I'm having trouble
> with tire pressure..... the guy in the local tire shop tells me that all
> tires should be inflated to 35psi when cold. Last time I ever go there.....
>
> The tires are Mickey Thompson baja claws (the bias belted, not the radials)
> in the 31x11.5 r15 flavor, 8" rims. The jeep is a Ssangyong Korando,
> similar to a CJ-7 in both appearance and weight. Trail pressures are no
> problem, but where do I start with road pressures? At 35 the tire is
> bulging ridiculously in the center, would 30psi when cold still be too
> much? Just a ballpark figure to get me going.....
>
> Thanks again,
> Shaun
> South Korea
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
37135 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 6:02am
Subject: RE: tire pressure?
Shaun,
Here's a simple way to get your pressure adjusted PERFECTLY for your vehicle
and tires:
Get some chalk.
Find someplace with asphalt to drive a short distance on.
Adjust your tire pressure to 32 PSI.
Draw a nice THICK chalk line across the FULL width of EACH tire.
Drive a short distance (100 yards) (go straight and don't turn any corners).
Look at the chalk lines on all tires:
If the chalk line is worn in the center of the tire but not the edges,
decrease tire pressure 1PSI and repeat test.
If the chalk line is worn at the outer edges of the tire, but not in the
center, increase tire pressure 1PSI and repeat test.
If the chalk line is worn evenly, then the tire pressure you have is
perfect... don't adjust it.
Proper tire pressures are different for different tires AND different
vehicles (and offroad tires seem to vary more and be more sensitive to
incorrect pressures). This is about the only way I know to accurately find
the proper tire pressure.
Hope this helps.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
PS. I run my tires at 28PSI and most people I know are within 1 or 2 PSI of
this pressure.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: imagineero [mailto:imagineero@x...]
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 6:21 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] tire pressure?
>
>
> Hi Gang,
> I finally got my hands on some second hand tires, but I'm
> having trouble
> with tire pressure..... the guy in the local tire shop tells
> me that all
> tires should be inflated to 35psi when cold. Last time I
> ever go there.....
>
> The tires are Mickey Thompson baja claws (the bias belted,
> not the radials)
> in the 31x11.5 r15 flavor, 8" rims. The jeep is a Ssangyong Korando,
> similar to a CJ-7 in both appearance and weight. Trail
> pressures are no
> problem, but where do I start with road pressures? At 35 the tire is
> bulging ridiculously in the center, would 30psi when cold
> still be too
> much? Just a ballpark figure to get me going.....
>
> Thanks again,
> Shaun
> South Korea
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
37136 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 6:13am
Subject: Re: TJ rear shock mounts
I have both currently on my TJ. Here are the writeups on my site:
Tera shock relocators:
http://members.home.net/rv6a/ShockRelocators.html
RE shock mounts:
http://members.home.net/rv6a/ShockMount.html
Why do I have them both? Because I've only broken one rear shock mount and
have been too lazy to cut the other one off and weld the RE mount on.
I like them both. The Tera shock reloacators do as they are supposed to,
although the RE mounts are much stronger since they do not use the thinner,
weaker factory mounts. An, as had been said by others, you can clock the RE
ones to get more clearance.
Chris K
97 TJ
http://www.arizonatj.com
> From: "bobandamanda2001" <dookie78@j...>
> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 12:30:39 -0000
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] TJ rear shock mounts
>
> Does anyone have any comments, good, bad, or otherwise, on either the
> Teraflex rear shock mount relocation brackets or the Rubicon weld on
> shock mounts? I need to get my shocks mounted properly (shock body
> down). Anyone have pictures on the completed install? TIA for the
> info.
>
> Bob Kennedy
> 99 TJ
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
37137 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 6:15am
Subject: Re: tire pressure?
What color chalk?
> From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...>
> Reply-To: <arizonajeep@h...>
> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 07:02:55 -0700
> To: "'imagineero'" <imagineero@x...>, <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] tire pressure?
>
> Shaun,
>
> Here's a simple way to get your pressure adjusted PERFECTLY for your vehicle
> and tires:
>
> Get some chalk.
> Find someplace with asphalt to drive a short distance on.
> Adjust your tire pressure to 32 PSI.
> Draw a nice THICK chalk line across the FULL width of EACH tire.
> Drive a short distance (100 yards) (go straight and don't turn any corners).
> Look at the chalk lines on all tires:
>
> If the chalk line is worn in the center of the tire but not the edges,
> decrease tire pressure 1PSI and repeat test.
>
> If the chalk line is worn at the outer edges of the tire, but not in the
> center, increase tire pressure 1PSI and repeat test.
>
> If the chalk line is worn evenly, then the tire pressure you have is
> perfect... don't adjust it.
>
> Proper tire pressures are different for different tires AND different
> vehicles (and offroad tires seem to vary more and be more sensitive to
> incorrect pressures). This is about the only way I know to accurately find
> the proper tire pressure.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe West
>
> PS. I run my tires at 28PSI and most people I know are within 1 or 2 PSI of
> this pressure.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: imagineero [mailto:imagineero@x...]
>> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 6:21 AM
>> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [az_vjc] tire pressure?
>>
>>
>> Hi Gang,
>> I finally got my hands on some second hand tires, but I'm
>> having trouble
>> with tire pressure..... the guy in the local tire shop tells
>> me that all
>> tires should be inflated to 35psi when cold. Last time I
>> ever go there.....
>>
>> The tires are Mickey Thompson baja claws (the bias belted,
>> not the radials)
>> in the 31x11.5 r15 flavor, 8" rims. The jeep is a Ssangyong Korando,
>> similar to a CJ-7 in both appearance and weight. Trail
>> pressures are no
>> problem, but where do I start with road pressures? At 35 the tire is
>> bulging ridiculously in the center, would 30psi when cold
>> still be too
>> much? Just a ballpark figure to get me going.....
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Shaun
>> South Korea
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
37138 From: Ralph Williams <ralphbw@q...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 6:26am
Subject: Re: tire pressure?
Well, my first guess would be; any color but black. I have
applied for a government grant to research the color question.
Will have a full report in a few years if the grant comes
through. Until then you will have to muddle through on your own.
Ralph
Chris Krieg wrote:
>
> What color chalk?
>
> > From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...>
> > Reply-To: <arizonajeep@h...>
> > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 07:02:55 -0700
> > To: "'imagineero'" <imagineero@x...>, <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] tire pressure?
> >
> > Shaun,
> >
> > Here's a simple way to get your pressure adjusted PERFECTLY for your vehicle
> > and tires:
> >
> > Get some chalk.
> > Find someplace with asphalt to drive a short distance on.
> > Adjust your tire pressure to 32 PSI.
> > Draw a nice THICK chalk line across the FULL width of EACH tire.
> > Drive a short distance (100 yards) (go straight and don't turn any corners).
> > Look at the chalk lines on all tires:
> >
> > If the chalk line is worn in the center of the tire but not the edges,
> > decrease tire pressure 1PSI and repeat test.
> >
> > If the chalk line is worn at the outer edges of the tire, but not in the
> > center, increase tire pressure 1PSI and repeat test.
> >
> > If the chalk line is worn evenly, then the tire pressure you have is
> > perfect... don't adjust it.
> >
> > Proper tire pressures are different for different tires AND different
> > vehicles (and offroad tires seem to vary more and be more sensitive to
> > incorrect pressures). This is about the only way I know to accurately find
> > the proper tire pressure.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Joe West
> >
> > PS. I run my tires at 28PSI and most people I know are within 1 or 2 PSI of
> > this pressure.
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: imagineero [mailto:imagineero@x...]
> >> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 6:21 AM
> >> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >> Subject: [az_vjc] tire pressure?
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Gang,
> >> I finally got my hands on some second hand tires, but I'm
> >> having trouble
> >> with tire pressure..... the guy in the local tire shop tells
> >> me that all
> >> tires should be inflated to 35psi when cold. Last time I
> >> ever go there.....
> >>
> >> The tires are Mickey Thompson baja claws (the bias belted,
> >> not the radials)
> >> in the 31x11.5 r15 flavor, 8" rims. The jeep is a Ssangyong Korando,
> >> similar to a CJ-7 in both appearance and weight. Trail
> >> pressures are no
> >> problem, but where do I start with road pressures? At 35 the tire is
> >> bulging ridiculously in the center, would 30psi when cold
> >> still be too
> >> much? Just a ballpark figure to get me going.....
> >>
> >> Thanks again,
> >> Shaun
> >> South Korea
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> >> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
>
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37139 From: brent_lizakowski <brent_lizakowski@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 7:24am
Subject: Re: TJ rear shock mounts
I went with the Tera mounts. At the time, I didn't realize there was
a weld on relocator mount, otherwise, I probably would have gone with
that.
But, the Tera mounts are holding up fine for me. I haven't had any
problems with them. I suppose if they ever fail, I'll go with REs.
Keep in mind, the Tera mounts you can install yourself in about 15
minutes (If I remember correctly, there's only one or two bolts
holding each mount on). The RE mounts will require a bit more work,
especially if you're not a welder.
Brent
--- In az_vjc@y..., "bobandamanda2001" <dookie78@j...> wrote:
> Does anyone have any comments, good, bad, or otherwise, on either
the
> Teraflex rear shock mount relocation brackets or the Rubicon weld
on
> shock mounts? I need to get my shocks mounted properly (shock body
> down). Anyone have pictures on the completed install? TIA for the
> info.
>
> Bob Kennedy
> 99 TJ
37140 From: flatfenderman2000 <flatfenderman@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 7:31am
Subject: Free MB tub still up for grabs.
The guy I promiced the tub to a few weeks ago has not yet came and
got it. If anyone out there still wants it it's yours. For those who
don't remember the original post, I gotta get this thing out of my
way. It's no show piece but will make a good crawler body. It has no
dents, the floor has been replaced. It was recently sand blasted and
is mostly bare metal so it needs to get primmered or at least out of
the weather soon. It's a 1945. I may be able to come up with a pair
of fenders but there is no hood, windshield, grill or other parts to
go with it. Located in Florence. If anyone want's a project I do have
a 1953 CJ3a with a good flathead motor that needs to be put together,
I have 90% of the parts to do it. This one isnt free but we can
negotiate.
Chris
37141 From: Adam DuBose <afdinaz@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 8:15am
Subject: Jeep in Montana
I have '68 cj-5 in montana that does not have a rear driveline, or exhaust system. I know in a perfect world I'd put both on before driving down here. My question is how badly is the gas mileage going to be effected by driving in "front wheel drive."
Also how bad of an idea is this? I'm going to have a shop do some work on the front end or I'd be able to replace driveline and put on exhaust. I don't think this is a standard rear driveline either, it has a 3rd shifter, I was told was a underdrive.
Any and all input would be appreciated.
Thanks
Adam
37142 From: Adam DuBose <afdinaz@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 8:31am
Subject: Re: Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
I don't know how bad the terrain is from the suv to the drop off point but
I'm sure I could get a double axled trailer to put the suv on to take out if
the terrain is too terrible. Also, I've drug a burned out car before and
even traveling very very slow they are very very loud.
Adam
----- Original Message -----
From: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
To: <minihummer@w...>; <kermit@e...>;
<byrnec@q...>; <scnix1@h...>; <Niitoyis@w...>;
<charles.h.bab****@i...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>;
<stevegraham@w...>; "Robert Holmes"
<flamable_liquid@h...>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
> Yup...if we can't get in in the bag....
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Holmes" <flamable_liquid@h...>
> To: <azjeep@h...>; <minihummer@w...>;
> <kermit@e...>; <byrnec@q...>; <scnix1@h...>;
> <Niitoyis@w...>; <charles.h.bab****@i...>;
> <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; <stevegraham@w...>
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 6:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
>
>
> > So is the plan just to drag this thing through the dirt and hills and
> stuff?
> >
> >
> > >From: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
> > >To: <minihummer@w...>, "Len Sullivan"
> <kermit@e...>,
> > >"Halverson" <byrnec@q...>, "Nixon, Scott" <scnix1@h...>, "Gary
> > >Holmes" <Niitoyis@w...>, "Robert Holmes"
> > ><flamable_liquid@h...>, "Bab****, Charles H"
> > ><charles.h.bab****@i...>, "az_vjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>,
> "graham,
> > >steve" <stevegraham@w...>
> > >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
> > >Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 23:21:13 -0700
> > >
> > >Sounds good to me. I can bring trash bags for the general clean up...if
> Len
> > >can bring one big enough to put the burned truck in.
> > >
> > >Doug
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "linda luik" <minihummer@w...>
> > >To: "Len Sullivan" <kermit@e...>; "Halverson"
> > ><byrnec@q...>;
> > >"Nixon, Scott" <scnix1@h...>; "DougB" <azjeep@h...>; "Gary
> Holmes"
> > ><Niitoyis@w...>; "Robert Holmes"
> <flamable_liquid@h...>;
> > >"Bab****, Charles H" <charles.h.bab****@i...>; "az_vjc"
> > ><az_vjc@egroups.com>; "graham, steve" <stevegraham@w...>
> > >Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 7:04 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
> > >
> > >
> > > > Well, so far it looks like we have a pretty good turnout. I will
post
> > > > this as trail ride for Saturday, Dec 29, if that's okay with
everyone.
> I
> > > > will contact the FS with the date. Meet at Butcher Jones at
> 9:00-9:30am
> > > > and go from there. I hope it doesn't rain!
> > > >
> > > > Sign ups so far are:
> > > >
> > > > LenS
> > > > JohnH
> > > > DougB
> > > > GaryH
> > > > RobertH
> > > > CharlesB
> > > > SteveG
> > > > ScottN?
> > > >
> > > > LindaL
> > >
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> > >
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37143 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 8:30am
Subject: [FS] CJ Parts for sale
Price: varies
Contact: azracer821@home.com
Have a few items left from a '83 CJ-7 Laredo I parted out. Frame in PERFECT condition. If you've tweaked yours this will put you right. $200
steering box $45
Rear seat (brown/tan) $35
Side Steps $25
Windshield Frame (needs glass) $45
Gas tank $25
Roll bar $75
Have other misc stuff also. Wire harness, heater box, brackets, instruments/gauges.
steve janssen
37144 From: Robert Holmes <flamable_liquid@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 8:44am
Subject: Re: Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
the terrain itself is not to bad. However the problem would come with the
hills. I dont know exactly how steep or whatever they are or if there are
other ones but a trailer I suppose is possible however would probably be a
little tricky. If you have ever been to the coves before the truck is
located in cove #2. I guess this is one of those times I wish I had acess to
a M-175 (i think) military transport trucks. You know the big ones with all
that space in the back to place a burned out truck.
>From: "Adam DuBose" <afdinaz@h...>
>To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
>Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 09:31:59 -0700
>
>I don't know how bad the terrain is from the suv to the drop off point but
>I'm sure I could get a double axled trailer to put the suv on to take out
>if
>the terrain is too terrible. Also, I've drug a burned out car before and
>even traveling very very slow they are very very loud.
>
>Adam
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
>To: <minihummer@w...>; <kermit@e...>;
><byrnec@q...>; <scnix1@h...>; <Niitoyis@w...>;
><charles.h.bab****@i...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>;
><stevegraham@w...>; "Robert Holmes"
><flamable_liquid@h...>
>Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 11:29 PM
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
>
>
> > Yup...if we can't get in in the bag....
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Robert Holmes" <flamable_liquid@h...>
> > To: <azjeep@h...>; <minihummer@w...>;
> > <kermit@e...>; <byrnec@q...>; <scnix1@h...>;
> > <Niitoyis@w...>; <charles.h.bab****@i...>;
> > <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; <stevegraham@w...>
> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 6:21 AM
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
> >
> >
> > > So is the plan just to drag this thing through the dirt and hills and
> > stuff?
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
> > > >To: <minihummer@w...>, "Len Sullivan"
> > <kermit@e...>,
> > > >"Halverson" <byrnec@q...>, "Nixon, Scott" <scnix1@h...>,
>"Gary
> > > >Holmes" <Niitoyis@w...>, "Robert Holmes"
> > > ><flamable_liquid@h...>, "Bab****, Charles H"
> > > ><charles.h.bab****@i...>, "az_vjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>,
> > "graham,
> > > >steve" <stevegraham@w...>
> > > >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
> > > >Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 23:21:13 -0700
> > > >
> > > >Sounds good to me. I can bring trash bags for the general clean
>up...if
> > Len
> > > >can bring one big enough to put the burned truck in.
> > > >
> > > >Doug
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "linda luik" <minihummer@w...>
> > > >To: "Len Sullivan" <kermit@e...>; "Halverson"
> > > ><byrnec@q...>;
> > > >"Nixon, Scott" <scnix1@h...>; "DougB" <azjeep@h...>; "Gary
> > Holmes"
> > > ><Niitoyis@w...>; "Robert Holmes"
> > <flamable_liquid@h...>;
> > > >"Bab****, Charles H" <charles.h.bab****@i...>; "az_vjc"
> > > ><az_vjc@egroups.com>; "graham, steve" <stevegraham@w...>
> > > >Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 7:04 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Well, so far it looks like we have a pretty good turnout. I will
>post
> > > > > this as trail ride for Saturday, Dec 29, if that's okay with
>everyone.
> > I
> > > > > will contact the FS with the date. Meet at Butcher Jones at
> > 9:00-9:30am
> > > > > and go from there. I hope it doesn't rain!
> > > > >
> > > > > Sign ups so far are:
> > > > >
> > > > > LenS
> > > > > JohnH
> > > > > DougB
> > > > > GaryH
> > > > > RobertH
> > > > > CharlesB
> > > > > SteveG
> > > > > ScottN?
> > > > >
> > > > > LindaL
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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37145 From: James Junkin <jjunkin@p...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 8:48am
Subject: Re: Jeep in Montana
It will just be a front wheel drive vehicle as long as the transfer case is in good shape. If the roads are icy, you might have some problems in 2WD.
James Junkin
O||||||O
'81 SJ Cherokee "Midnight"
'98 TJ "Crimson Ride"
'97 TJ-8 "Tar Baby" (Work in progress)
'01 WJ "Silver Bullet"
----- Original Message -----
From: Adam DuBose
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:15 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Jeep in Montana
I have '68 cj-5 in montana that does not have a rear driveline, or exhaust system. I know in a perfect world I'd put both on before driving down here. My question is how badly is the gas mileage going to be effected by driving in "front wheel drive."
Also how bad of an idea is this? I'm going to have a shop do some work on the front end or I'd be able to replace driveline and put on exhaust. I don't think this is a standard rear driveline either, it has a 3rd shifter, I was told was a underdrive.
Any and all input would be appreciated.
Thanks
Adam
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37146 From: wishmaaker <wishmaaker@y...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 9:17am
Subject: Re: Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
What type of SUV is it? may be able to get some crappy spare tires
to put on it to drag it out.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Robert Holmes" <flamable_liquid@h...> wrote:
> the terrain itself is not to bad. However the problem would come
with the
> hills. I dont know exactly how steep or whatever they are or if
there are
> other ones but a trailer I suppose is possible however would
probably be a
> little tricky. If you have ever been to the coves before the truck
is
> located in cove #2. I guess this is one of those times I wish I had
acess to
> a M-175 (i think) military transport trucks. You know the big ones
with all
> that space in the back to place a burned out truck.
>
>
> >From: "Adam DuBose" <afdinaz@h...>
> >To: <az_vjc@y...>
> >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
> >Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 09:31:59 -0700
> >
> >I don't know how bad the terrain is from the suv to the drop off
point but
> >I'm sure I could get a double axled trailer to put the suv on to
take out
> >if
> >the terrain is too terrible. Also, I've drug a burned out car
before and
> >even traveling very very slow they are very very loud.
> >
> >Adam
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
> >To: <minihummer@w...>; <kermit@e...>;
> ><byrnec@q...>; <scnix1@h...>; <Niitoyis@w...>;
> ><charles.h.bab****@i...>; <az_vjc@y...>;
> ><stevegraham@w...>; "Robert Holmes"
> ><flamable_liquid@h...>
> >Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 11:29 PM
> >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
> >
> >
> > > Yup...if we can't get in in the bag....
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Robert Holmes" <flamable_liquid@h...>
> > > To: <azjeep@h...>; <minihummer@w...>;
> > > <kermit@e...>; <byrnec@q...>; <scnix1@h...>;
> > > <Niitoyis@w...>; <charles.h.bab****@i...>;
> > > <az_vjc@y...>; <stevegraham@w...>
> > > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 6:21 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
> > >
> > >
> > > > So is the plan just to drag this thing through the dirt and
hills and
> > > stuff?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
> > > > >To: <minihummer@w...>, "Len Sullivan"
> > > <kermit@e...>,
> > > > >"Halverson" <byrnec@q...>, "Nixon, Scott" <scnix1@h...>,
> >"Gary
> > > > >Holmes" <Niitoyis@w...>, "Robert Holmes"
> > > > ><flamable_liquid@h...>, "Bab****, Charles H"
> > > > ><charles.h.bab****@i...>, "az_vjc" <az_vjc@y...>,
> > > "graham,
> > > > >steve" <stevegraham@w...>
> > > > >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV
Pull
> > > > >Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 23:21:13 -0700
> > > > >
> > > > >Sounds good to me. I can bring trash bags for the general
clean
> >up...if
> > > Len
> > > > >can bring one big enough to put the burned truck in.
> > > > >
> > > > >Doug
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "linda luik" <minihummer@w...>
> > > > >To: "Len Sullivan" <kermit@e...>; "Halverson"
> > > > ><byrnec@q...>;
> > > > >"Nixon, Scott" <scnix1@h...>; "DougB" <azjeep@h...>; "Gary
> > > Holmes"
> > > > ><Niitoyis@w...>; "Robert Holmes"
> > > <flamable_liquid@h...>;
> > > > >"Bab****, Charles H" <charles.h.bab****@i...>; "az_vjc"
> > > > ><az_vjc@e...>; "graham, steve" <stevegraham@w...>
> > > > >Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 7:04 PM
> > > > >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV
Pull
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Well, so far it looks like we have a pretty good turnout.
I will
> >post
> > > > > > this as trail ride for Saturday, Dec 29, if that's okay
with
> >everyone.
> > > I
> > > > > > will contact the FS with the date. Meet at Butcher Jones
at
> > > 9:00-9:30am
> > > > > > and go from there. I hope it doesn't rain!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sign ups so far are:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > LenS
> > > > > > JohnH
> > > > > > DougB
> > > > > > GaryH
> > > > > > RobertH
> > > > > > CharlesB
> > > > > > SteveG
> > > > > > ScottN?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > LindaL
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ~Robert Holmes
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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37147 From: Adam DuBose <afdinaz@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 9:27am
Subject: Re: Jeep in Montana Clarification
I grew up in montana. I know safe traveling speeds in snow/ice in 2wd. I am aware of these concerns. What I don't know is how fast a cj-5 will travel in 4 wheel drive (will actually only be 2 becuase rear driveline/shaft is missing) I understand there's a lot of variables. These aside average speed...
Also, pertaining to exhaust problems...there are no mufflers. pipes end at flange just behind front tires.
Again thanks in advance for input.
Adam DuBose
----- Original Message -----
From: James Junkin
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Jeep in Montana
It will just be a front wheel drive vehicle as long as the transfer case is in good shape. If the roads are icy, you might have some problems in 2WD.
James Junkin
O||||||O
'81 SJ Cherokee "Midnight"
'98 TJ "Crimson Ride"
'97 TJ-8 "Tar Baby" (Work in progress)
'01 WJ "Silver Bullet"
----- Original Message -----
From: Adam DuBose
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:15 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Jeep in Montana
I have '68 cj-5 in montana that does not have a rear driveline, or exhaust system. I know in a perfect world I'd put both on before driving down here. My question is how badly is the gas mileage going to be effected by driving in "front wheel drive."
Also how bad of an idea is this? I'm going to have a shop do some work on the front end or I'd be able to replace driveline and put on exhaust. I don't think this is a standard rear driveline either, it has a 3rd shifter, I was told was a underdrive.
Any and all input would be appreciated.
Thanks
Adam
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37148 From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 9:12am
Subject: Re: Re: Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
If you had enough people, some big hammers, a hacksaw and maybe an oxy/acet
rig you could probably just give everyone a little doggy bag to take
home. OTOH the terrain can't be *that* tough if a SUV can get through......
I was part of a clean up back in aus and we used to carry burnt out cars of
the mountains *by hand*. Took a few months worth of weekends (climbing
expeditions) to get a single car out. Sure felt good to see the end
results though........
Shaun
South Korea
>What type of SUV is it? may be able to get some crappy spare tires
>to put on it to drag it out.
>
>--- In az_vjc@y..., "Robert Holmes" <flamable_liquid@h...> wrote:
> > the terrain itself is not to bad. However the problem would come
>with the
> > hills. I dont know exactly how steep or whatever they are or if
>there are
> > other ones but a trailer I suppose is possible however would
>probably be a
> > little tricky. If you have ever been to the coves before the truck
>is
> > located in cove #2. I guess this is one of those times I wish I had
>acess to
> > a M-175 (i think) military transport trucks. You know the big ones
>with all
> > that space in the back to place a burned out truck.
37149 From: Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 9:37am
Subject: RE: TJ rear shock mounts
You can also cut off the lower spring perches and clock them forward as I
did. This not only allows shock clearance but has the benefit of not having
as much of a curve on the coils which should provide a higher spring rate
and longer spring life. I also used the RE shock mounts though I had to
modify them to fit with my boxed lower control arm brackets.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@h...]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 6:55 AM
To: 'bobandamanda2001'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] TJ rear shock mounts
Bob,
Quite a few of us on this list have installed the Rubicon Express weld on
mounts and I would definitely recommend them over the shock relocators.
Cutting off the old shock mounts is pretty easy and welding the new ones on
is straightforward. If you are not a welder, take it to Hunter Offroad (I'm
sure John could slip you in) or your favorite fab shop. As Doug mentioned,
you can clock the mounts so that you don't get any shock interference with
the coil spring mount (which also increases your ground clearance) AND you
can move the mounts outboard a bit so that you are less likely to hit them.
I have some pictures somewhere; I'll try to find and post them.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bobandamanda2001 [mailto:dookie78@j...]
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:31 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] TJ rear shock mounts
>
>
> Does anyone have any comments, good, bad, or otherwise, on either the
> Teraflex rear shock mount relocation brackets or the Rubicon weld on
> shock mounts? I need to get my shocks mounted properly (shock body
> down). Anyone have pictures on the completed install? TIA for the
> info.
>
> Bob Kennedy
> 99 TJ
>
>
>
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37150 From: msa12171 <msa12171@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 9:35am
Subject: Re: Jeep in Montana Clarification
I drove from the north rim of the Grand Canyon in my TJ in front
only. It was a little scary. Torque steer is nuts, it feels
really "loose" and gas milage was crap. I'd recommend getting the
rear fixed or towing it down. As far as icy conditions, things will
change dramatically when you're pulling the vehicle and lose traction
as opposed to pushing. Pretty unsage if you ask me, but I've done
crazier things (will not go into detail, just know that no one was
hurt from any unsafe decisions made in the past).
Mike A.
"Az_A"
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Adam DuBose" <afdinaz@h...> wrote:
> I grew up in montana. I know safe traveling speeds in snow/ice in
2wd. I am aware of these concerns. What I don't know is how fast a
cj-5 will travel in 4 wheel drive (will actually only be 2 becuase
rear driveline/shaft is missing) I understand there's a lot of
variables. These aside average speed...
>
> Also, pertaining to exhaust problems...there are no mufflers. pipes
end at flange just behind front tires.
>
> Again thanks in advance for input.
>
> Adam DuBose
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James Junkin
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Jeep in Montana
>
>
> It will just be a front wheel drive vehicle as long as the
transfer case is in good shape. If the roads are icy, you might have
some problems in 2WD.
>
> James Junkin
> O||||||O
> '81 SJ Cherokee "Midnight"
> '98 TJ "Crimson Ride"
> '97 TJ-8 "Tar Baby" (Work in progress)
> '01 WJ "Silver Bullet"
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Adam DuBose
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:15 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Jeep in Montana
>
>
> I have '68 cj-5 in montana that does not have a rear
driveline, or exhaust system. I know in a perfect world I'd put both
on before driving down here. My question is how badly is the gas
mileage going to be effected by driving in "front wheel drive."
> Also how bad of an idea is this? I'm going to have a shop
do some work on the front end or I'd be able to replace driveline and
put on exhaust. I don't think this is a standard rear driveline
either, it has a 3rd shifter, I was told was a underdrive.
> Any and all input would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Adam
>
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Service.
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>
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37126 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 10:29pm
Subject: Re: Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
Yup...if we can't get in in the bag....
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Holmes" <flamable_liquid@h...>
To: <azjeep@h...>; <minihummer@w...>;
<kermit@e...>; <byrnec@q...>; <scnix1@h...>;
<Niitoyis@w...>; <charles.h.bab****@i...>;
<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; <stevegraham@w...>
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
> So is the plan just to drag this thing through the dirt and hills and
stuff?
>
>
> >From: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
> >To: <minihummer@w...>, "Len Sullivan"
<kermit@e...>,
> >"Halverson" <byrnec@q...>, "Nixon, Scott" <scnix1@h...>, "Gary
> >Holmes" <Niitoyis@w...>, "Robert Holmes"
> ><flamable_liquid@h...>, "Bab****, Charles H"
> ><charles.h.bab****@i...>, "az_vjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>,
"graham,
> >steve" <stevegraham@w...>
> >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
> >Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 23:21:13 -0700
> >
> >Sounds good to me. I can bring trash bags for the general clean up...if
Len
> >can bring one big enough to put the burned truck in.
> >
> >Doug
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "linda luik" <minihummer@w...>
> >To: "Len Sullivan" <kermit@e...>; "Halverson"
> ><byrnec@q...>;
> >"Nixon, Scott" <scnix1@h...>; "DougB" <azjeep@h...>; "Gary
Holmes"
> ><Niitoyis@w...>; "Robert Holmes"
<flamable_liquid@h...>;
> >"Bab****, Charles H" <charles.h.bab****@i...>; "az_vjc"
> ><az_vjc@egroups.com>; "graham, steve" <stevegraham@w...>
> >Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 7:04 PM
> >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
> >
> >
> > > Well, so far it looks like we have a pretty good turnout. I will post
> > > this as trail ride for Saturday, Dec 29, if that's okay with everyone.
I
> > > will contact the FS with the date. Meet at Butcher Jones at
9:00-9:30am
> > > and go from there. I hope it doesn't rain!
> > >
> > > Sign ups so far are:
> > >
> > > LenS
> > > JohnH
> > > DougB
> > > GaryH
> > > RobertH
> > > CharlesB
> > > SteveG
> > > ScottN?
> > >
> > > LindaL
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ~Robert Holmes
>
>
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37127 From: Jason B <the_anubis@h...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 10:40pm
Subject: Re: Heater probs. cont.
maybe check the rotation of the water pump, if the belt has been changed it might be going the wrong way.
-Jason
92 YJ
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 8:26 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Heater probs. cont.
Ok, so still no heat.
I put in a new thermostat about 8 months ago. I flushed and redid the whole cooling system at that time, the flow through the heater core was fine. I have checked all wiring and slider controls. There is no flow shutoff valve or anything in the hoses going to the core.
After I got off the highway tonight I reached back into the vent to feel the core and it was cold!
Ok....So now what?!
Nick
oh ya 93 yj 2.5
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37128 From: T.J. Nosmo-King <ice626@h...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 11:14pm
Subject: RE: Re: advertisements
no...this was way last year when yahoo first started putting the ads in the messages....everyone complained about them, then someone in the group volunteered to pay off yahoo.....could it have been the old webmaster, yuccaman?????
TJ Gill
75 CJ5
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37129 From: bobandamanda2001 <dookie78@j...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 4:30am
Subject: TJ rear shock mounts
Does anyone have any comments, good, bad, or otherwise, on either the
Teraflex rear shock mount relocation brackets or the Rubicon weld on
shock mounts? I need to get my shocks mounted properly (shock body
down). Anyone have pictures on the completed install? TIA for the
info.
Bob Kennedy
99 TJ
37130 From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 5:21am
Subject: tire pressure?
Hi Gang,
I finally got my hands on some second hand tires, but I'm having trouble
with tire pressure..... the guy in the local tire shop tells me that all
tires should be inflated to 35psi when cold. Last time I ever go there.....
The tires are Mickey Thompson baja claws (the bias belted, not the radials)
in the 31x11.5 r15 flavor, 8" rims. The jeep is a Ssangyong Korando,
similar to a CJ-7 in both appearance and weight. Trail pressures are no
problem, but where do I start with road pressures? At 35 the tire is
bulging ridiculously in the center, would 30psi when cold still be too
much? Just a ballpark figure to get me going.....
Thanks again,
Shaun
South Korea
37131 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 5:45am
Subject: Re: TJ rear shock mounts
The RE brackets are very strong, and they allow you some ability to rotate
the brackets up a bit. I have a set but I haven't put them on yet since my
stock ones are still hanging in there (hard to imagine how, thought ...I
bang them a lot). No real comments here on the Tera, since I have no
experience.
If your concerned about the cans hitting the lower spring pad, one option is
to trim the lower pad to clear the cans...which is what I did.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "bobandamanda2001" <dookie78@j...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:30 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] TJ rear shock mounts
> Does anyone have any comments, good, bad, or otherwise, on either the
> Teraflex rear shock mount relocation brackets or the Rubicon weld on
> shock mounts? I need to get my shocks mounted properly (shock body
> down). Anyone have pictures on the completed install? TIA for the
> info.
>
> Bob Kennedy
> 99 TJ
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
37132 From: Fred <fredtj@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 5:54am
Subject: Re: TJ rear shock mounts
I have the Tera rear shock mount relocators. They work just fine. I've
had them for, mmmmm, maybe a year. They've been wacked good and no
problems at all. Be aware that they lengthen the shock close to 1 inch
though. In other words, they move the shock up about 1", so you'll have
to check to make sure that you aren't overcompressing the shocks, after
you install the relocators. On the flip side of that, they allow about
1" more droop ;)
Cheers,
Fred
bobandamanda2001 wrote:
>Does anyone have any comments, good, bad, or otherwise, on either the
>Teraflex rear shock mount relocation brackets or the Rubicon weld on
>shock mounts? I need to get my shocks mounted properly (shock body
>down). Anyone have pictures on the completed install? TIA for the
>info.
>
>Bob Kennedy
>99 TJ
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
37133 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 5:54am
Subject: RE: TJ rear shock mounts
Bob,
Quite a few of us on this list have installed the Rubicon Express weld on
mounts and I would definitely recommend them over the shock relocators.
Cutting off the old shock mounts is pretty easy and welding the new ones on
is straightforward. If you are not a welder, take it to Hunter Offroad (I'm
sure John could slip you in) or your favorite fab shop. As Doug mentioned,
you can clock the mounts so that you don't get any shock interference with
the coil spring mount (which also increases your ground clearance) AND you
can move the mounts outboard a bit so that you are less likely to hit them.
I have some pictures somewhere; I'll try to find and post them.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bobandamanda2001 [mailto:dookie78@j...]
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:31 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] TJ rear shock mounts
>
>
> Does anyone have any comments, good, bad, or otherwise, on either the
> Teraflex rear shock mount relocation brackets or the Rubicon weld on
> shock mounts? I need to get my shocks mounted properly (shock body
> down). Anyone have pictures on the completed install? TIA for the
> info.
>
> Bob Kennedy
> 99 TJ
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
37134 From: Ralph Williams <ralphbw@q...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 6:00am
Subject: Re: tire pressure?
Put a chalk line across each tire, drive a few hundred feet (100
meters) in a straight line on a level asphalt surface, stop, look
at the chalk lines. You want the lines to wear off evenly across
the full width of the tread. Adjust air pressure accordingly.
Repeat the test.
Hope this helps,
Ralph
imagineero wrote:
>
> Hi Gang,
> I finally got my hands on some second hand tires, but I'm having trouble
> with tire pressure..... the guy in the local tire shop tells me that all
> tires should be inflated to 35psi when cold. Last time I ever go there.....
>
> The tires are Mickey Thompson baja claws (the bias belted, not the radials)
> in the 31x11.5 r15 flavor, 8" rims. The jeep is a Ssangyong Korando,
> similar to a CJ-7 in both appearance and weight. Trail pressures are no
> problem, but where do I start with road pressures? At 35 the tire is
> bulging ridiculously in the center, would 30psi when cold still be too
> much? Just a ballpark figure to get me going.....
>
> Thanks again,
> Shaun
> South Korea
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
37135 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 6:02am
Subject: RE: tire pressure?
Shaun,
Here's a simple way to get your pressure adjusted PERFECTLY for your vehicle
and tires:
Get some chalk.
Find someplace with asphalt to drive a short distance on.
Adjust your tire pressure to 32 PSI.
Draw a nice THICK chalk line across the FULL width of EACH tire.
Drive a short distance (100 yards) (go straight and don't turn any corners).
Look at the chalk lines on all tires:
If the chalk line is worn in the center of the tire but not the edges,
decrease tire pressure 1PSI and repeat test.
If the chalk line is worn at the outer edges of the tire, but not in the
center, increase tire pressure 1PSI and repeat test.
If the chalk line is worn evenly, then the tire pressure you have is
perfect... don't adjust it.
Proper tire pressures are different for different tires AND different
vehicles (and offroad tires seem to vary more and be more sensitive to
incorrect pressures). This is about the only way I know to accurately find
the proper tire pressure.
Hope this helps.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
PS. I run my tires at 28PSI and most people I know are within 1 or 2 PSI of
this pressure.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: imagineero [mailto:imagineero@x...]
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 6:21 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] tire pressure?
>
>
> Hi Gang,
> I finally got my hands on some second hand tires, but I'm
> having trouble
> with tire pressure..... the guy in the local tire shop tells
> me that all
> tires should be inflated to 35psi when cold. Last time I
> ever go there.....
>
> The tires are Mickey Thompson baja claws (the bias belted,
> not the radials)
> in the 31x11.5 r15 flavor, 8" rims. The jeep is a Ssangyong Korando,
> similar to a CJ-7 in both appearance and weight. Trail
> pressures are no
> problem, but where do I start with road pressures? At 35 the tire is
> bulging ridiculously in the center, would 30psi when cold
> still be too
> much? Just a ballpark figure to get me going.....
>
> Thanks again,
> Shaun
> South Korea
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
37136 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 6:13am
Subject: Re: TJ rear shock mounts
I have both currently on my TJ. Here are the writeups on my site:
Tera shock relocators:
http://members.home.net/rv6a/ShockRelocators.html
RE shock mounts:
http://members.home.net/rv6a/ShockMount.html
Why do I have them both? Because I've only broken one rear shock mount and
have been too lazy to cut the other one off and weld the RE mount on.
I like them both. The Tera shock reloacators do as they are supposed to,
although the RE mounts are much stronger since they do not use the thinner,
weaker factory mounts. An, as had been said by others, you can clock the RE
ones to get more clearance.
Chris K
97 TJ
http://www.arizonatj.com
> From: "bobandamanda2001" <dookie78@j...>
> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 12:30:39 -0000
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] TJ rear shock mounts
>
> Does anyone have any comments, good, bad, or otherwise, on either the
> Teraflex rear shock mount relocation brackets or the Rubicon weld on
> shock mounts? I need to get my shocks mounted properly (shock body
> down). Anyone have pictures on the completed install? TIA for the
> info.
>
> Bob Kennedy
> 99 TJ
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
37137 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 6:15am
Subject: Re: tire pressure?
What color chalk?
> From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...>
> Reply-To: <arizonajeep@h...>
> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 07:02:55 -0700
> To: "'imagineero'" <imagineero@x...>, <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] tire pressure?
>
> Shaun,
>
> Here's a simple way to get your pressure adjusted PERFECTLY for your vehicle
> and tires:
>
> Get some chalk.
> Find someplace with asphalt to drive a short distance on.
> Adjust your tire pressure to 32 PSI.
> Draw a nice THICK chalk line across the FULL width of EACH tire.
> Drive a short distance (100 yards) (go straight and don't turn any corners).
> Look at the chalk lines on all tires:
>
> If the chalk line is worn in the center of the tire but not the edges,
> decrease tire pressure 1PSI and repeat test.
>
> If the chalk line is worn at the outer edges of the tire, but not in the
> center, increase tire pressure 1PSI and repeat test.
>
> If the chalk line is worn evenly, then the tire pressure you have is
> perfect... don't adjust it.
>
> Proper tire pressures are different for different tires AND different
> vehicles (and offroad tires seem to vary more and be more sensitive to
> incorrect pressures). This is about the only way I know to accurately find
> the proper tire pressure.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe West
>
> PS. I run my tires at 28PSI and most people I know are within 1 or 2 PSI of
> this pressure.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: imagineero [mailto:imagineero@x...]
>> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 6:21 AM
>> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [az_vjc] tire pressure?
>>
>>
>> Hi Gang,
>> I finally got my hands on some second hand tires, but I'm
>> having trouble
>> with tire pressure..... the guy in the local tire shop tells
>> me that all
>> tires should be inflated to 35psi when cold. Last time I
>> ever go there.....
>>
>> The tires are Mickey Thompson baja claws (the bias belted,
>> not the radials)
>> in the 31x11.5 r15 flavor, 8" rims. The jeep is a Ssangyong Korando,
>> similar to a CJ-7 in both appearance and weight. Trail
>> pressures are no
>> problem, but where do I start with road pressures? At 35 the tire is
>> bulging ridiculously in the center, would 30psi when cold
>> still be too
>> much? Just a ballpark figure to get me going.....
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Shaun
>> South Korea
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
37138 From: Ralph Williams <ralphbw@q...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 6:26am
Subject: Re: tire pressure?
Well, my first guess would be; any color but black. I have
applied for a government grant to research the color question.
Will have a full report in a few years if the grant comes
through. Until then you will have to muddle through on your own.
Ralph
Chris Krieg wrote:
>
> What color chalk?
>
> > From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...>
> > Reply-To: <arizonajeep@h...>
> > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 07:02:55 -0700
> > To: "'imagineero'" <imagineero@x...>, <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] tire pressure?
> >
> > Shaun,
> >
> > Here's a simple way to get your pressure adjusted PERFECTLY for your vehicle
> > and tires:
> >
> > Get some chalk.
> > Find someplace with asphalt to drive a short distance on.
> > Adjust your tire pressure to 32 PSI.
> > Draw a nice THICK chalk line across the FULL width of EACH tire.
> > Drive a short distance (100 yards) (go straight and don't turn any corners).
> > Look at the chalk lines on all tires:
> >
> > If the chalk line is worn in the center of the tire but not the edges,
> > decrease tire pressure 1PSI and repeat test.
> >
> > If the chalk line is worn at the outer edges of the tire, but not in the
> > center, increase tire pressure 1PSI and repeat test.
> >
> > If the chalk line is worn evenly, then the tire pressure you have is
> > perfect... don't adjust it.
> >
> > Proper tire pressures are different for different tires AND different
> > vehicles (and offroad tires seem to vary more and be more sensitive to
> > incorrect pressures). This is about the only way I know to accurately find
> > the proper tire pressure.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Joe West
> >
> > PS. I run my tires at 28PSI and most people I know are within 1 or 2 PSI of
> > this pressure.
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: imagineero [mailto:imagineero@x...]
> >> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 6:21 AM
> >> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >> Subject: [az_vjc] tire pressure?
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Gang,
> >> I finally got my hands on some second hand tires, but I'm
> >> having trouble
> >> with tire pressure..... the guy in the local tire shop tells
> >> me that all
> >> tires should be inflated to 35psi when cold. Last time I
> >> ever go there.....
> >>
> >> The tires are Mickey Thompson baja claws (the bias belted,
> >> not the radials)
> >> in the 31x11.5 r15 flavor, 8" rims. The jeep is a Ssangyong Korando,
> >> similar to a CJ-7 in both appearance and weight. Trail
> >> pressures are no
> >> problem, but where do I start with road pressures? At 35 the tire is
> >> bulging ridiculously in the center, would 30psi when cold
> >> still be too
> >> much? Just a ballpark figure to get me going.....
> >>
> >> Thanks again,
> >> Shaun
> >> South Korea
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> >> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
37139 From: brent_lizakowski <brent_lizakowski@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 7:24am
Subject: Re: TJ rear shock mounts
I went with the Tera mounts. At the time, I didn't realize there was
a weld on relocator mount, otherwise, I probably would have gone with
that.
But, the Tera mounts are holding up fine for me. I haven't had any
problems with them. I suppose if they ever fail, I'll go with REs.
Keep in mind, the Tera mounts you can install yourself in about 15
minutes (If I remember correctly, there's only one or two bolts
holding each mount on). The RE mounts will require a bit more work,
especially if you're not a welder.
Brent
--- In az_vjc@y..., "bobandamanda2001" <dookie78@j...> wrote:
> Does anyone have any comments, good, bad, or otherwise, on either
the
> Teraflex rear shock mount relocation brackets or the Rubicon weld
on
> shock mounts? I need to get my shocks mounted properly (shock body
> down). Anyone have pictures on the completed install? TIA for the
> info.
>
> Bob Kennedy
> 99 TJ
37140 From: flatfenderman2000 <flatfenderman@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 7:31am
Subject: Free MB tub still up for grabs.
The guy I promiced the tub to a few weeks ago has not yet came and
got it. If anyone out there still wants it it's yours. For those who
don't remember the original post, I gotta get this thing out of my
way. It's no show piece but will make a good crawler body. It has no
dents, the floor has been replaced. It was recently sand blasted and
is mostly bare metal so it needs to get primmered or at least out of
the weather soon. It's a 1945. I may be able to come up with a pair
of fenders but there is no hood, windshield, grill or other parts to
go with it. Located in Florence. If anyone want's a project I do have
a 1953 CJ3a with a good flathead motor that needs to be put together,
I have 90% of the parts to do it. This one isnt free but we can
negotiate.
Chris
37141 From: Adam DuBose <afdinaz@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 8:15am
Subject: Jeep in Montana
I have '68 cj-5 in montana that does not have a rear driveline, or exhaust system. I know in a perfect world I'd put both on before driving down here. My question is how badly is the gas mileage going to be effected by driving in "front wheel drive."
Also how bad of an idea is this? I'm going to have a shop do some work on the front end or I'd be able to replace driveline and put on exhaust. I don't think this is a standard rear driveline either, it has a 3rd shifter, I was told was a underdrive.
Any and all input would be appreciated.
Thanks
Adam
37142 From: Adam DuBose <afdinaz@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 8:31am
Subject: Re: Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
I don't know how bad the terrain is from the suv to the drop off point but
I'm sure I could get a double axled trailer to put the suv on to take out if
the terrain is too terrible. Also, I've drug a burned out car before and
even traveling very very slow they are very very loud.
Adam
----- Original Message -----
From: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
To: <minihummer@w...>; <kermit@e...>;
<byrnec@q...>; <scnix1@h...>; <Niitoyis@w...>;
<charles.h.bab****@i...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>;
<stevegraham@w...>; "Robert Holmes"
<flamable_liquid@h...>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
> Yup...if we can't get in in the bag....
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Holmes" <flamable_liquid@h...>
> To: <azjeep@h...>; <minihummer@w...>;
> <kermit@e...>; <byrnec@q...>; <scnix1@h...>;
> <Niitoyis@w...>; <charles.h.bab****@i...>;
> <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; <stevegraham@w...>
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 6:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
>
>
> > So is the plan just to drag this thing through the dirt and hills and
> stuff?
> >
> >
> > >From: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
> > >To: <minihummer@w...>, "Len Sullivan"
> <kermit@e...>,
> > >"Halverson" <byrnec@q...>, "Nixon, Scott" <scnix1@h...>, "Gary
> > >Holmes" <Niitoyis@w...>, "Robert Holmes"
> > ><flamable_liquid@h...>, "Bab****, Charles H"
> > ><charles.h.bab****@i...>, "az_vjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>,
> "graham,
> > >steve" <stevegraham@w...>
> > >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
> > >Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 23:21:13 -0700
> > >
> > >Sounds good to me. I can bring trash bags for the general clean up...if
> Len
> > >can bring one big enough to put the burned truck in.
> > >
> > >Doug
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "linda luik" <minihummer@w...>
> > >To: "Len Sullivan" <kermit@e...>; "Halverson"
> > ><byrnec@q...>;
> > >"Nixon, Scott" <scnix1@h...>; "DougB" <azjeep@h...>; "Gary
> Holmes"
> > ><Niitoyis@w...>; "Robert Holmes"
> <flamable_liquid@h...>;
> > >"Bab****, Charles H" <charles.h.bab****@i...>; "az_vjc"
> > ><az_vjc@egroups.com>; "graham, steve" <stevegraham@w...>
> > >Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 7:04 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
> > >
> > >
> > > > Well, so far it looks like we have a pretty good turnout. I will
post
> > > > this as trail ride for Saturday, Dec 29, if that's okay with
everyone.
> I
> > > > will contact the FS with the date. Meet at Butcher Jones at
> 9:00-9:30am
> > > > and go from there. I hope it doesn't rain!
> > > >
> > > > Sign ups so far are:
> > > >
> > > > LenS
> > > > JohnH
> > > > DougB
> > > > GaryH
> > > > RobertH
> > > > CharlesB
> > > > SteveG
> > > > ScottN?
> > > >
> > > > LindaL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ~Robert Holmes
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________ _______________
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37143 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 8:30am
Subject: [FS] CJ Parts for sale
Price: varies
Contact: azracer821@home.com
Have a few items left from a '83 CJ-7 Laredo I parted out. Frame in PERFECT condition. If you've tweaked yours this will put you right. $200
steering box $45
Rear seat (brown/tan) $35
Side Steps $25
Windshield Frame (needs glass) $45
Gas tank $25
Roll bar $75
Have other misc stuff also. Wire harness, heater box, brackets, instruments/gauges.
steve janssen
37144 From: Robert Holmes <flamable_liquid@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 8:44am
Subject: Re: Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
the terrain itself is not to bad. However the problem would come with the
hills. I dont know exactly how steep or whatever they are or if there are
other ones but a trailer I suppose is possible however would probably be a
little tricky. If you have ever been to the coves before the truck is
located in cove #2. I guess this is one of those times I wish I had acess to
a M-175 (i think) military transport trucks. You know the big ones with all
that space in the back to place a burned out truck.
>From: "Adam DuBose" <afdinaz@h...>
>To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
>Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 09:31:59 -0700
>
>I don't know how bad the terrain is from the suv to the drop off point but
>I'm sure I could get a double axled trailer to put the suv on to take out
>if
>the terrain is too terrible. Also, I've drug a burned out car before and
>even traveling very very slow they are very very loud.
>
>Adam
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
>To: <minihummer@w...>; <kermit@e...>;
><byrnec@q...>; <scnix1@h...>; <Niitoyis@w...>;
><charles.h.bab****@i...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>;
><stevegraham@w...>; "Robert Holmes"
><flamable_liquid@h...>
>Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 11:29 PM
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
>
>
> > Yup...if we can't get in in the bag....
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Robert Holmes" <flamable_liquid@h...>
> > To: <azjeep@h...>; <minihummer@w...>;
> > <kermit@e...>; <byrnec@q...>; <scnix1@h...>;
> > <Niitoyis@w...>; <charles.h.bab****@i...>;
> > <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; <stevegraham@w...>
> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 6:21 AM
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
> >
> >
> > > So is the plan just to drag this thing through the dirt and hills and
> > stuff?
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
> > > >To: <minihummer@w...>, "Len Sullivan"
> > <kermit@e...>,
> > > >"Halverson" <byrnec@q...>, "Nixon, Scott" <scnix1@h...>,
>"Gary
> > > >Holmes" <Niitoyis@w...>, "Robert Holmes"
> > > ><flamable_liquid@h...>, "Bab****, Charles H"
> > > ><charles.h.bab****@i...>, "az_vjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>,
> > "graham,
> > > >steve" <stevegraham@w...>
> > > >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
> > > >Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 23:21:13 -0700
> > > >
> > > >Sounds good to me. I can bring trash bags for the general clean
>up...if
> > Len
> > > >can bring one big enough to put the burned truck in.
> > > >
> > > >Doug
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "linda luik" <minihummer@w...>
> > > >To: "Len Sullivan" <kermit@e...>; "Halverson"
> > > ><byrnec@q...>;
> > > >"Nixon, Scott" <scnix1@h...>; "DougB" <azjeep@h...>; "Gary
> > Holmes"
> > > ><Niitoyis@w...>; "Robert Holmes"
> > <flamable_liquid@h...>;
> > > >"Bab****, Charles H" <charles.h.bab****@i...>; "az_vjc"
> > > ><az_vjc@egroups.com>; "graham, steve" <stevegraham@w...>
> > > >Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 7:04 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Well, so far it looks like we have a pretty good turnout. I will
>post
> > > > > this as trail ride for Saturday, Dec 29, if that's okay with
>everyone.
> > I
> > > > > will contact the FS with the date. Meet at Butcher Jones at
> > 9:00-9:30am
> > > > > and go from there. I hope it doesn't rain!
> > > > >
> > > > > Sign ups so far are:
> > > > >
> > > > > LenS
> > > > > JohnH
> > > > > DougB
> > > > > GaryH
> > > > > RobertH
> > > > > CharlesB
> > > > > SteveG
> > > > > ScottN?
> > > > >
> > > > > LindaL
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > ~Robert Holmes
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37145 From: James Junkin <jjunkin@p...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 8:48am
Subject: Re: Jeep in Montana
It will just be a front wheel drive vehicle as long as the transfer case is in good shape. If the roads are icy, you might have some problems in 2WD.
James Junkin
O||||||O
'81 SJ Cherokee "Midnight"
'98 TJ "Crimson Ride"
'97 TJ-8 "Tar Baby" (Work in progress)
'01 WJ "Silver Bullet"
----- Original Message -----
From: Adam DuBose
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:15 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Jeep in Montana
I have '68 cj-5 in montana that does not have a rear driveline, or exhaust system. I know in a perfect world I'd put both on before driving down here. My question is how badly is the gas mileage going to be effected by driving in "front wheel drive."
Also how bad of an idea is this? I'm going to have a shop do some work on the front end or I'd be able to replace driveline and put on exhaust. I don't think this is a standard rear driveline either, it has a 3rd shifter, I was told was a underdrive.
Any and all input would be appreciated.
Thanks
Adam
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37146 From: wishmaaker <wishmaaker@y...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 9:17am
Subject: Re: Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
What type of SUV is it? may be able to get some crappy spare tires
to put on it to drag it out.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Robert Holmes" <flamable_liquid@h...> wrote:
> the terrain itself is not to bad. However the problem would come
with the
> hills. I dont know exactly how steep or whatever they are or if
there are
> other ones but a trailer I suppose is possible however would
probably be a
> little tricky. If you have ever been to the coves before the truck
is
> located in cove #2. I guess this is one of those times I wish I had
acess to
> a M-175 (i think) military transport trucks. You know the big ones
with all
> that space in the back to place a burned out truck.
>
>
> >From: "Adam DuBose" <afdinaz@h...>
> >To: <az_vjc@y...>
> >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
> >Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 09:31:59 -0700
> >
> >I don't know how bad the terrain is from the suv to the drop off
point but
> >I'm sure I could get a double axled trailer to put the suv on to
take out
> >if
> >the terrain is too terrible. Also, I've drug a burned out car
before and
> >even traveling very very slow they are very very loud.
> >
> >Adam
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
> >To: <minihummer@w...>; <kermit@e...>;
> ><byrnec@q...>; <scnix1@h...>; <Niitoyis@w...>;
> ><charles.h.bab****@i...>; <az_vjc@y...>;
> ><stevegraham@w...>; "Robert Holmes"
> ><flamable_liquid@h...>
> >Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 11:29 PM
> >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
> >
> >
> > > Yup...if we can't get in in the bag....
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Robert Holmes" <flamable_liquid@h...>
> > > To: <azjeep@h...>; <minihummer@w...>;
> > > <kermit@e...>; <byrnec@q...>; <scnix1@h...>;
> > > <Niitoyis@w...>; <charles.h.bab****@i...>;
> > > <az_vjc@y...>; <stevegraham@w...>
> > > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 6:21 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
> > >
> > >
> > > > So is the plan just to drag this thing through the dirt and
hills and
> > > stuff?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
> > > > >To: <minihummer@w...>, "Len Sullivan"
> > > <kermit@e...>,
> > > > >"Halverson" <byrnec@q...>, "Nixon, Scott" <scnix1@h...>,
> >"Gary
> > > > >Holmes" <Niitoyis@w...>, "Robert Holmes"
> > > > ><flamable_liquid@h...>, "Bab****, Charles H"
> > > > ><charles.h.bab****@i...>, "az_vjc" <az_vjc@y...>,
> > > "graham,
> > > > >steve" <stevegraham@w...>
> > > > >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV
Pull
> > > > >Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 23:21:13 -0700
> > > > >
> > > > >Sounds good to me. I can bring trash bags for the general
clean
> >up...if
> > > Len
> > > > >can bring one big enough to put the burned truck in.
> > > > >
> > > > >Doug
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "linda luik" <minihummer@w...>
> > > > >To: "Len Sullivan" <kermit@e...>; "Halverson"
> > > > ><byrnec@q...>;
> > > > >"Nixon, Scott" <scnix1@h...>; "DougB" <azjeep@h...>; "Gary
> > > Holmes"
> > > > ><Niitoyis@w...>; "Robert Holmes"
> > > <flamable_liquid@h...>;
> > > > >"Bab****, Charles H" <charles.h.bab****@i...>; "az_vjc"
> > > > ><az_vjc@e...>; "graham, steve" <stevegraham@w...>
> > > > >Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 7:04 PM
> > > > >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV
Pull
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Well, so far it looks like we have a pretty good turnout.
I will
> >post
> > > > > > this as trail ride for Saturday, Dec 29, if that's okay
with
> >everyone.
> > > I
> > > > > > will contact the FS with the date. Meet at Butcher Jones
at
> > > 9:00-9:30am
> > > > > > and go from there. I hope it doesn't rain!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sign ups so far are:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > LenS
> > > > > > JohnH
> > > > > > DougB
> > > > > > GaryH
> > > > > > RobertH
> > > > > > CharlesB
> > > > > > SteveG
> > > > > > ScottN?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > LindaL
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > >
> > > > ~Robert Holmes
> > > >
> > > >
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37147 From: Adam DuBose <afdinaz@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 9:27am
Subject: Re: Jeep in Montana Clarification
I grew up in montana. I know safe traveling speeds in snow/ice in 2wd. I am aware of these concerns. What I don't know is how fast a cj-5 will travel in 4 wheel drive (will actually only be 2 becuase rear driveline/shaft is missing) I understand there's a lot of variables. These aside average speed...
Also, pertaining to exhaust problems...there are no mufflers. pipes end at flange just behind front tires.
Again thanks in advance for input.
Adam DuBose
----- Original Message -----
From: James Junkin
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Jeep in Montana
It will just be a front wheel drive vehicle as long as the transfer case is in good shape. If the roads are icy, you might have some problems in 2WD.
James Junkin
O||||||O
'81 SJ Cherokee "Midnight"
'98 TJ "Crimson Ride"
'97 TJ-8 "Tar Baby" (Work in progress)
'01 WJ "Silver Bullet"
----- Original Message -----
From: Adam DuBose
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:15 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Jeep in Montana
I have '68 cj-5 in montana that does not have a rear driveline, or exhaust system. I know in a perfect world I'd put both on before driving down here. My question is how badly is the gas mileage going to be effected by driving in "front wheel drive."
Also how bad of an idea is this? I'm going to have a shop do some work on the front end or I'd be able to replace driveline and put on exhaust. I don't think this is a standard rear driveline either, it has a 3rd shifter, I was told was a underdrive.
Any and all input would be appreciated.
Thanks
Adam
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37148 From: imagineero <imagineero@x...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 9:12am
Subject: Re: Re: Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
If you had enough people, some big hammers, a hacksaw and maybe an oxy/acet
rig you could probably just give everyone a little doggy bag to take
home. OTOH the terrain can't be *that* tough if a SUV can get through......
I was part of a clean up back in aus and we used to carry burnt out cars of
the mountains *by hand*. Took a few months worth of weekends (climbing
expeditions) to get a single car out. Sure felt good to see the end
results though........
Shaun
South Korea
>What type of SUV is it? may be able to get some crappy spare tires
>to put on it to drag it out.
>
>--- In az_vjc@y..., "Robert Holmes" <flamable_liquid@h...> wrote:
> > the terrain itself is not to bad. However the problem would come
>with the
> > hills. I dont know exactly how steep or whatever they are or if
>there are
> > other ones but a trailer I suppose is possible however would
>probably be a
> > little tricky. If you have ever been to the coves before the truck
>is
> > located in cove #2. I guess this is one of those times I wish I had
>acess to
> > a M-175 (i think) military transport trucks. You know the big ones
>with all
> > that space in the back to place a burned out truck.
37149 From: Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 9:37am
Subject: RE: TJ rear shock mounts
You can also cut off the lower spring perches and clock them forward as I
did. This not only allows shock clearance but has the benefit of not having
as much of a curve on the coils which should provide a higher spring rate
and longer spring life. I also used the RE shock mounts though I had to
modify them to fit with my boxed lower control arm brackets.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@h...]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 6:55 AM
To: 'bobandamanda2001'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] TJ rear shock mounts
Bob,
Quite a few of us on this list have installed the Rubicon Express weld on
mounts and I would definitely recommend them over the shock relocators.
Cutting off the old shock mounts is pretty easy and welding the new ones on
is straightforward. If you are not a welder, take it to Hunter Offroad (I'm
sure John could slip you in) or your favorite fab shop. As Doug mentioned,
you can clock the mounts so that you don't get any shock interference with
the coil spring mount (which also increases your ground clearance) AND you
can move the mounts outboard a bit so that you are less likely to hit them.
I have some pictures somewhere; I'll try to find and post them.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bobandamanda2001 [mailto:dookie78@j...]
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:31 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] TJ rear shock mounts
>
>
> Does anyone have any comments, good, bad, or otherwise, on either the
> Teraflex rear shock mount relocation brackets or the Rubicon weld on
> shock mounts? I need to get my shocks mounted properly (shock body
> down). Anyone have pictures on the completed install? TIA for the
> info.
>
> Bob Kennedy
> 99 TJ
>
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37150 From: msa12171 <msa12171@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2001 9:35am
Subject: Re: Jeep in Montana Clarification
I drove from the north rim of the Grand Canyon in my TJ in front
only. It was a little scary. Torque steer is nuts, it feels
really "loose" and gas milage was crap. I'd recommend getting the
rear fixed or towing it down. As far as icy conditions, things will
change dramatically when you're pulling the vehicle and lose traction
as opposed to pushing. Pretty unsage if you ask me, but I've done
crazier things (will not go into detail, just know that no one was
hurt from any unsafe decisions made in the past).
Mike A.
"Az_A"
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Adam DuBose" <afdinaz@h...> wrote:
> I grew up in montana. I know safe traveling speeds in snow/ice in
2wd. I am aware of these concerns. What I don't know is how fast a
cj-5 will travel in 4 wheel drive (will actually only be 2 becuase
rear driveline/shaft is missing) I understand there's a lot of
variables. These aside average speed...
>
> Also, pertaining to exhaust problems...there are no mufflers. pipes
end at flange just behind front tires.
>
> Again thanks in advance for input.
>
> Adam DuBose
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James Junkin
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Jeep in Montana
>
>
> It will just be a front wheel drive vehicle as long as the
transfer case is in good shape. If the roads are icy, you might have
some problems in 2WD.
>
> James Junkin
> O||||||O
> '81 SJ Cherokee "Midnight"
> '98 TJ "Crimson Ride"
> '97 TJ-8 "Tar Baby" (Work in progress)
> '01 WJ "Silver Bullet"
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Adam DuBose
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:15 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Jeep in Montana
>
>
> I have '68 cj-5 in montana that does not have a rear
driveline, or exhaust system. I know in a perfect world I'd put both
on before driving down here. My question is how badly is the gas
mileage going to be effected by driving in "front wheel drive."
> Also how bad of an idea is this? I'm going to have a shop
do some work on the front end or I'd be able to replace driveline and
put on exhaust. I don't think this is a standard rear driveline
either, it has a 3rd shifter, I was told was a underdrive.
> Any and all input would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Adam
>
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