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37051 From: AzVJC Website <david.houk@o...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 5:29am
Subject: [TR] Unspecified - Saturday, December 15, 2001 - Reminder
Hello All,
Jon Loveless is leading an Unspecified trail run on Saturday, December 15, 2001.
When: 9AM until Noon
Where: Fountain Hills Community Center classroom 1 or 2
La Montana and Ave. of the Fountain, Fountain Hills, AZ
Rating: None
Length: 3 hours
CB Channel:
Basic GPS class presented by Stu Olson. Open only to AZVJC members and covering basic GPS concepts with added emphasis on OziExplorer. May be followed by a trail run on a nearby trail using a route created in the session (if enough are interested.)
Tentative agenda:
-Basic GPS 101 - terminology
-Basic OZIExplorer 101
-Maps - what they are, how to get them
-Maps - how to use them with OZI
-Setting up a route in OZI
-Transferring the route to the GPS
-Tracking with a GPS
-Transferring the track to OZI
To sign up you must be one of the first 30 to sign on here with a "Definate"
There is a $3 per person fee to cover the room and the professor's gas and effort.
If you are interested in a 2-3 hour trail run after the session please also sign up for the Mud Springs run on the same day. The run will only be done with enough interest.
Sign Up List:
KC Vehr Definite
Walter Brown Definite
Bob Lynn Definite
Mike Waterman Definite
Dan Schwartz Definite
Rodney Neiman Definite
Scott Maiden Definite
Dave Kober Definite
Mike Wixom Definite
Lew Williams Definite
Gary Gardner Definite
Definite
David Houk Definite
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
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37052 From: J & P Visic <jpvisic@n...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 5:53am
Subject: Re: Must Read 4x4ing Lesson/Story, And a mouse
John,
Glad to hear you're OK. I have to admit, I go wheeling alone all the time.
I love to explore the old mines south of the Gila River in the area of
Grayback. My timing is such that trips just come up quickly and happen, or
don't happen at all. I carry "stuff" and try to keep my CJ in good shape,
but you just never know. Thanks for the heads up and reminder.
While we're on the subject, one of the things I always wonder about is what
tools to carry. In my experience fixing things anywhere but my garage I
never seem to anticpate and take the right tools. When packing tools for an
unknown problem it seems to me that unless you pull a trailer the chances of
having the tools you need are pretty slim. I carry 2 each standard and
phillips screwdrivers, 10" and 12" crescent, 7/16 through 3/4 box end
wrenches, small ball peen hammer, and small pry bar. I can think of alot of
problems that these tools wouldn't take care of. Any tips out there on
fundamental tools to carry as routine?
Once again, glad you and your finger made it.
John
84 CJ-7
Casa Grande
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Kruize" <scottkruize@e...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:18 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Must Read 4x4ing Lesson/Story, And a mouse
> John
>
> I'm glad it turned out okay for you. I remember Len's post a year or so
back
> about the rollover he witnessed out near Bartlett. You posted this as a
> reminder to all that we really are in a dangerous sport and need to be
> careful. Thanks for being humble enough to post it.
>
> You did break rule #1 - Never go out wheeling alone. Had you been
following
> me you'd have never gotten stuck. The mouse would have been a red spot in
> the snow. See how important it is to take a friend? <Grin>
>
> Take care,
>
> Scott K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hunteroffroad@a... [mailto:hunteroffroad@a...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 8:52 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Must Read 4x4ing Lesson/Story, And a mouse
>
>
> Ok, I am telling this so people will see the importance of being prepared.
> Hopefully, by reading it, it will make your next trip a bit safer. And
maybe
> get a get a lugh out of it. I think in a week or two I might begin to
laugh
> myself.
>
> Last night, my girlfreind and I went up to Fourpeaks to go see some
snow.
> Innocent trip. What could happen? It is a graded road all the way up, be
> there and back in 5 hours... No problem. What could go wrong? Thats
what
> I
> was thinking... so with that in mind, so I loaded up all my rescue stuff,
> my
> shovels, Max-Ax, straps, and Hi-Lift, out of my rock buggy, "Big Ugly",
> into
> my Land Cruiser and took off for the mountains. (Mind you, this is the
> first
> time I have had my Land Cruiser offroad in over 2 years, but that is a
> longer
> story)
> So, I am on my way to the top, making good time, haveing a great time
with
> girlfreind. Ok, then comes the mouse. This furball darted out in front
of
> me and did that "headlight stop" right in front of me, I hit the brakes
and
> stopped. I think he is gone and keep going, about 100 yards down the
road,
> my girlfreind is worried, "What if you hit him and his just hurt, I dont
> want
> him to suffer". So, Like a good guy I go back to look. (I have a heart
for
> small fuzzy things too). We get to the spot where the mouse and we look.
I
> turn the Crusier around on the trail and back off a small concrete bridge.
> My passenger rear tire is up on a small bank, my driver rear tire is
sitting
> below the lip of the concrete by about 1 foot. I am sitting on my leaf
> spring.
>
> Just a trip to the snow, what go worng. Because of a mouse, I happend
> to
> back off the only 8 foot span of concrete on a 18 friggin mile long trail.
>
> Ya, I was not happy........
>
> But I had my "stuff", thank good. Out came the Ax, on goes the shovel
> attachment, and out comes the Hi-lift. I start digging and lifting. I
have
> been stuck worse. Well, this is were things go from bad, to really,
really
> bad. In the process of digging out, another TJ came along, he didnt have
> anything, not even a strap. But he was willing to help. Mostly they
talked
> to my girl freind as I dug and swore underneath my Cruiser. I was getting
> close to getting out. I all had to do was place one more rock under the
> tire
> and I was going to have the guy strap me out. (It was my strap, he didnt
> have one) I have always hated working underneath a 4x4 when it is jacked
up
> by a Hi-lift. I have this fear of slipping and dropping on me. I was
being
> as careful as possible. Everybody was clear, in case the jack shot out, I
> was doing good. I was slowly postiong the rock under the tire, trying to
my
> hands clear........
>
> Then it happend...
>
> The Jack slipped and the Land Cruiser came down on the rock. I thought
I
> was ok (that thought lasted about .2 nanoseconds) unitl I realised, that
my
> right index finger was pinned between a big rock and 33" General mud tire
> attached to 5300 pound 4x4.. I kept my cool and told the guy to start
> helping me dig. (I would have had him use the Jack, but he didnt know how
> to
> use one. This was not the time to give someone a lesson.) The ground was
> soft and digging was the quickest and simplest way to go. Soon, the rock
> started dropping and the rear of the Cruiser sat on the bridge and I was
> able
> to get my finger out. All in all, everyone figures I was under there for
> about 30 to 45 seconds. My finger, was crushed. Nothing was broken but
it
> was literally squeeshed flat. I had on have leather gloves which is the
> only
> thing that saved the sand and mud from removeing the skin from the bone.
> Imagine 20 grit sand paper with a 1000 Lbs of presure. My girl freind
> whipped out the first aid kit and I popped a bunch of Ibuprofren ( I
have
> no idea how to spell that ). It took about 5 to 10 minutes for my finger
to
> start to fill back out. Literally, it looked like something out of a
> cartoon. With in 30 minutes I could move my finger without much
> restriction, and tonight I can sit here and type this with no problems. I
> was way lucky. I used up a lot of prayer time on that one. We packed up
> and
> we headed up to play in the snow.
>
> This was supposed to be an easy easy trail, but, somehow I managed to
end
> up with the back of Cruiser of a concrete bridge and my finger pinned
under
> the tire. Ya, Murphy was there, I could smell him. The point of this is
> to
> show, you never, NEVER know when it is going to hit the fan. I was lucky.
I
> had my gear. I was able to take care of my self. But I almost left with
out
> it. And God only knows how bad it could have been. Always take your
stuff.
> And if you done have any, GET IT.
>
> I know in the past, people have past around the list of what to carry
when
> they go out. But I know alot of you dont for one reason or another. Take
> this story to heart.
> These things saved my ***, and finger,
>
> *Hi-lift, tow strap, First Aid Kit, Max-Ax Muiltipurpose tool (or shovel
and
> stuff), Gloves, proper clothing. ( I was outside for almost an hour over
> this, and we where getting snowed on)
>
>
> I hope this helps, Take the story for what you want, a good humor story,
> or
> a good lesson or both. By the way, the mouse, he was fine. He got away.
>
> Best Regards
> John K
> "Hunter"
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
37053 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 5:51am
Subject: RE: [TR] Unspecified - Saturday, December 15, 2001 - Reminder
Directions for getting to the GPS class.
From Shea Blvd:
1. in Fountain Hills, turn on Saguaro Blvd (can only go 1 direction)
2. Continue to El Lago Blvd (about 2 miles), go left.
3. At La Montana (1/4 mile), go right
4. The entrance to the community center is on La Montana shortly after the turn from El Lago.
5. There are 2 multi-colored buildings in this complex. One is the Library, the other is the community center. As you enter the parking lot from La Montana, the Community Center is the left-most building.
The GPS seminar will be posted in the lobby but we are supposed to be in Classroom I.
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: AzVJC Website [mailto:david.houk@onsemi.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:30 PM
To: AzVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Unspecified - Saturday, December 15, 2001 - Reminder
Hello All,
Jon Loveless is leading an Unspecified trail run on Saturday, December 15, 2001.
When: 9AM until Noon
Where: Fountain Hills Community Center classroom 1 or 2
La Montana and Ave. of the Fountain, Fountain Hills, AZ
Rating: None
Length: 3 hours
CB Channel:
Basic GPS class presented by Stu Olson. Open only to AZVJC members and covering basic GPS concepts with added emphasis on OziExplorer. May be followed by a trail run on a nearby trail using a route created in the session (if enough are interested.)
Tentative agenda:
-Basic GPS 101 - terminology
-Basic OZIExplorer 101
-Maps - what they are, how to get them
-Maps - how to use them with OZI
-Setting up a route in OZI
-Transferring the route to the GPS
-Tracking with a GPS
-Transferring the track to OZI
To sign up you must be one of the first 30 to sign on here with a "Definate"
There is a $3 per person fee to cover the room and the professor's gas and effort.
If you are interested in a 2-3 hour trail run after the session please also sign up for the Mud Springs run on the same day. The run will only be done with enough interest.
Sign Up List:
KC Vehr Definite
Walter Brown Definite
Bob Lynn Definite
Mike Waterman Definite
Dan Schwartz Definite
Rodney Neiman Definite
Scott Maiden Definite
Dave Kober Definite
Mike Wixom Definite
Lew Williams Definite
Gary Gardner Definite
Definite
David Houk Definite
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
37054 From: jaylalib <jaylalib@h...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 7:13am
Subject: Custom Bumpers (Check it out)
I remembered the name. Here is the link to the bumpers.
http://www.trailready.com/images/TJ/TJF2.jpg
37055 From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 7:19am
Subject: Re: New Sahara
Hey now...real men drive YELLOW TJ's!
Mike Baney
--- In az_vjc@y..., "jetowle2000" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
>
> And your point is?..... Never mind ;)
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Larry Farquhar" <lfar@h...> wrote:
> > ---snip----
> > Besides, you couldn't get a Sahara in
> > YELLOW!
> >
> > Larry Farquhar
> > '01 TJ - "Wyle E" (lurking member of the banana bunch)
> > www.azjeeper.com
37056 From: wishmaaker <wishmaaker@y...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 7:43am
Subject: Re: New Sahara
one word for ya!
Baywatch!
--- In az_vjc@y..., "jeepin_in_az" <jeepin_in_az@y...> wrote:
> Hey now...real men drive YELLOW TJ's!
>
> Mike Baney
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "jetowle2000" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
> >
> > And your point is?..... Never mind ;)
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Larry Farquhar" <lfar@h...> wrote:
> > > ---snip----
> > > Besides, you couldn't get a Sahara in
> > > YELLOW!
> > >
> > > Larry Farquhar
> > > '01 TJ - "Wyle E" (lurking member of the banana bunch)
> > > www.azjeeper.com
37057 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 2:45am
Subject: Re: Must Read 4x4ing Lesson/Story, And a mouse
One of the things I am thinkin about getting is that "Gator Socket". That
one size fits all. That could be a pretty handy tool on the trail. I had a
customer come in about a month ago and said he had picked one up and it
worked pretty well. May not be the best for everyday use, but would be
perfect for trail use. Where you could have metric or standard. Thinking I
should tell Santa about that one.....
John K
"hunter"
37058 From: kmichael02 <kmichael02@y...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 7:48am
Subject: -----------GIft IdEas
What are some useful items that can be given as gifts for a yj that
are under $75. Throw them all out there as I'm at a loss b/c of all
the "stuff" that i currently have i'm not sure what to suggest.
Friend and i are exchanging and i figured might as well have him get
something for the jeep.
thanks
mike
37059 From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 7:51am
Subject: Re: Must Read 4x4ing Lesson/Story, And a mouse
Glad to hear you are ok John, hope you got to use that new first aid
kit.
Mike
Murphy sucks!
--- In az_vjc@y..., hunteroffroad@a... wrote:
> Oh, Just for the reocrd, we had a cell phone which is useless in
most parts
> of the Four peaks. I had CB, but only good if someone is
listineing. We
> have enough food and water for a couple of days. ( I always keep
dryfood in
> my rescue bag.) My roomate and my dad knew that if I wasnt home by
Weds.
> mornning by 1030, I was in FR 143 somewhere.
>
> Just goes to show you, the best plans... Well, its the %#$ hole
of guy
> name Murphy....
>
> JohnK
37060 From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 7:56am
Subject: Re: New Sahara
AH, but girls like the banana! ;) They can use it for....oh ya,
family group again...
Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Kruize" <scottkruize@e...> wrote:
> The coolest part about owning a banana Jeep is that when it begins
to rust
> it still looks like a (over ripe) banana. <hehe>
>
> Oh yeah, before getting in your banana Jeep be sure to check for
spiders.
> Sometimes they hitch a ride in the crate....
>
> Scott K - 1999 Desert Sand TJ, aka "Daddy Longlegs", aka "Banana
Crusher"
> <Grin>
>
> PS - Some of my best friends own banana Jeeps.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Baja Fleg [mailto:fleigle@h...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:05 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: New Sahara
>
>
> Everyone knows that Yellow Jeeps are faster ;)
>
> Michael
> (Evil member of the banana bunch)
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
>
> And your point is?..... Never mind ;)
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Larry Farquhar" <lfar@h...> wrote:
> > ---snip----
> > Besides, you couldn't get a Sahara in
> > YELLOW!
> >
> > Larry Farquhar
> > '01 TJ - "Wyle E" (lurking member of the banana bunch)
> > www.azjeeper.com
>
>
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37061 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 7:59am
Subject: RE: -----------GIft IdEas
Off Road lights might be under 75.
Joey K
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kmichael02 [mailto:kmichael02@y...]
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 8:48 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] -----------GIft IdEas
>
>
> What are some useful items that can be given as gifts for a yj that
> are under $75. Throw them all out there as I'm at a loss b/c of all
> the "stuff" that i currently have i'm not sure what to suggest.
> Friend and i are exchanging and i figured might as well have him get
> something for the jeep.
>
> thanks
>
> mike
>
>
>
>
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>
37062 From: JoeKPhx <JoeKPhx@h...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:02am
Subject: RE: Must Read 4x4ing Lesson/Story, And a mouse
That was a great story. I am heading up to Flagstaff (Wife getting
Masters Degree, yeah, more money for Jeep)this Saturday and I will make
sure that I have all of the essentials.
You NEVER do know what will happen.
GOD BLESS AMERICA
Joe Kearney
Have a good day
-----Original Message-----
From: hunteroffroad@a... [mailto:hunteroffroad@a...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 8:52 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Must Read 4x4ing Lesson/Story, And a mouse
Ok, I am telling this so people will see the importance of being
prepared.
Hopefully, by reading it, it will make your next trip a bit safer. And
maybe
get a get a lugh out of it. I think in a week or two I might begin to
laugh
myself.
Last night, my girlfreind and I went up to Fourpeaks to go see some
snow.
Innocent trip. What could happen? It is a graded road all the way up,
be
there and back in 5 hours... No problem. What could go wrong? Thats
what I
was thinking... so with that in mind, so I loaded up all my rescue
stuff, my
shovels, Max-Ax, straps, and Hi-Lift, out of my rock buggy, "Big Ugly",
into
my Land Cruiser and took off for the mountains. (Mind you, this is the
first
time I have had my Land Cruiser offroad in over 2 years, but that is a
longer
story)
So, I am on my way to the top, making good time, haveing a great time
with
girlfreind. Ok, then comes the mouse. This furball darted out in front
of
me and did that "headlight stop" right in front of me, I hit the brakes
and
stopped. I think he is gone and keep going, about 100 yards down the
road,
my girlfreind is worried, "What if you hit him and his just hurt, I dont
want
him to suffer". So, Like a good guy I go back to look. (I have a heart
for
small fuzzy things too). We get to the spot where the mouse and we
look. I
turn the Crusier around on the trail and back off a small concrete
bridge.
My passenger rear tire is up on a small bank, my driver rear tire is
sitting
below the lip of the concrete by about 1 foot. I am sitting on my leaf
spring.
Just a trip to the snow, what go worng. Because of a mouse, I
happend to
back off the only 8 foot span of concrete on a 18 friggin mile long
trail.
Ya, I was not happy........
But I had my "stuff", thank good. Out came the Ax, on goes the
shovel
attachment, and out comes the Hi-lift. I start digging and lifting. I
have
been stuck worse. Well, this is were things go from bad, to really,
really
bad. In the process of digging out, another TJ came along, he didnt
have
anything, not even a strap. But he was willing to help. Mostly they
talked
to my girl freind as I dug and swore underneath my Cruiser. I was
getting
close to getting out. I all had to do was place one more rock under the
tire
and I was going to have the guy strap me out. (It was my strap, he
didnt
have one) I have always hated working underneath a 4x4 when it is
jacked up
by a Hi-lift. I have this fear of slipping and dropping on me. I was
being
as careful as possible. Everybody was clear, in case the jack shot out,
I
was doing good. I was slowly postiong the rock under the tire, trying
to my
hands clear........
Then it happend...
The Jack slipped and the Land Cruiser came down on the rock. I
thought I
was ok (that thought lasted about .2 nanoseconds) unitl I realised,
that my
right index finger was pinned between a big rock and 33" General mud
tire
attached to 5300 pound 4x4.. I kept my cool and told the guy to start
helping me dig. (I would have had him use the Jack, but he didnt know
how to
use one. This was not the time to give someone a lesson.) The ground
was
soft and digging was the quickest and simplest way to go. Soon, the
rock
started dropping and the rear of the Cruiser sat on the bridge and I was
able
to get my finger out. All in all, everyone figures I was under there
for
about 30 to 45 seconds. My finger, was crushed. Nothing was broken but
it
was literally squeeshed flat. I had on have leather gloves which is the
only
thing that saved the sand and mud from removeing the skin from the bone.
Imagine 20 grit sand paper with a 1000 Lbs of presure. My girl freind
whipped out the first aid kit and I popped a bunch of Ibuprofren ( I
have
no idea how to spell that ). It took about 5 to 10 minutes for my
finger to
start to fill back out. Literally, it looked like something out of a
cartoon. With in 30 minutes I could move my finger without much
restriction, and tonight I can sit here and type this with no problems.
I
was way lucky. I used up a lot of prayer time on that one. We packed
up and
we headed up to play in the snow.
This was supposed to be an easy easy trail, but, somehow I managed to
end
up with the back of Cruiser of a concrete bridge and my finger pinned
under
the tire. Ya, Murphy was there, I could smell him. The point of this
is to
show, you never, NEVER know when it is going to hit the fan. I was
lucky. I
had my gear. I was able to take care of my self. But I almost left with
out
it. And God only knows how bad it could have been. Always take your
stuff.
And if you done have any, GET IT.
I know in the past, people have past around the list of what to carry
when
they go out. But I know alot of you dont for one reason or another.
Take
this story to heart.
These things saved my ***, and finger,
*Hi-lift, tow strap, First Aid Kit, Max-Ax Muiltipurpose tool (or shovel
and
stuff), Gloves, proper clothing. ( I was outside for almost an hour
over
this, and we where getting snowed on)
I hope this helps, Take the story for what you want, a good humor
story, or
a good lesson or both. By the way, the mouse, he was fine. He got
away.
Best Regards
John K
"Hunter"
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37063 From: Fred <fredtj@h...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:07am
Subject: Re: Tire/Mechanic Discounts in Tucson?
Yup, Mike at Kiatek is the way to go. Good guy, good work. For tires, check with Eric at the Discount Tire store at Speedway and Dodge. He gives great deals to the Tucson Rough Riders.
Cheers,
Fred
jraya@attglobal.net wrote:
As far as a mechanic I would try Mike @ Kiatek 3601 E Speedway 327-7313 he isalso a member of the Tucson Rough Riders. As far as tires we always havegood luck at Discount Tire and they beat or match prices. There is a guy onthis list who works at Discount in Phx His name is Rick Beers he may be ableto help you out.Judymoontweezers wrote:
Hi,I'm a newbie to Jeepin' and the list. Just getting started on my 89wrangler. Do you guys know of a good mechanic to go to here in Tucson?I've got a leaky axle seal, and thats over my head. Also, Where is agood place to get deals on tires, here? Thanks, I look foward tomeeting some of you as soon as I get this heep trail worthy.Mike HudsonYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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37064 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 3:01am
Subject: Re: Re: Must Read 4x4ing Lesson/Story, And a mouse
Actaully Mike It was your kit that you bought. It definatly came in handy.
Thank you.
John K
37065 From: <hillb@s...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:21am
Subject: RE: Re: New Sahara
My wife just got a new TJ, and you wouldn't see her picture in the
dictionary next to the word TALL. What color are the steps and how much do
you want?
Ben
"Stu Olson"
<solson8@qwes To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
t.net> cc:
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: New Sahara
12/12/2001
06:57 PM
Or you can do what I did....trade the pulled Sahara parts for $$. I
couldn't see throwing the stuff away, that seemed rather silly. The only
"pulled item" left from mine are a pair of OEM steps. Anyone need a pair
cheap? ;)
If you are going to "roll your own", might as well order it with what you
want. ;)
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@h...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 6:20 PM
To: 'Scott Kruize'; 'wishmaaker'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: New Sahara
David,
Definitly go with a Sport if you are going to build the Jeep up. Don't
waste your money on the Sahara like I did.
Scott Kruize is right; you end up throwing most of the Sahara crap out
anyway; why pay for it in the first place.
Get a sport in the color you want, and I'd recommend the following options:
Dual tops or soft top only, DO NOT get just a hardtop.
Dana 44 rear axle.
Air Conditioning.
Cruise Control (I know, I know... but I REALLY like it on longer drives).
Joe West
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37066 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:24am
Subject: Re: -----------GIft IdEas
Tire deflators make good gifts. The ones that air down to a preset
pressure and then stop automatically are about $40-$50 a set while
the manual ones (Quick Air Deflators) go for about $11 a set.
-Roger
kmichael02 wrote:
>
> What are some useful items that can be given as gifts for a yj that
> are under $75. Throw them all out there as I'm at a loss b/c of all
> the "stuff" that i currently have i'm not sure what to suggest.
> Friend and i are exchanging and i figured might as well have him get
> something for the jeep.
>
> thanks
>
> mike
37067 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 3:39am
Subject: Re: -----------GIft IdEas
Hi-lift Jack, Tow strap, D-rings (Shackels), Lights, a good tool set for the
trail, seat covers, a couple of ammo cans for storage, a gas can or 2, CB
radio, a new or extra winch cable, a case of good oil, gift certificate to
Auto Zone or Pep Boys etc., air down tools likea air release tool or a new
fancy-make-them-jealous-kick-***-airpresure-gauge, a tire repair kit, a
folding shovel or a fullsize shovel with halfstick handle, a fire
exstigusher, KandN air filter, new wires for the spark plugs maybe plugs too,
new shackles, those cute fuzzy pads for the seat belts, any selection of
Rubbermiad containers or somethng like it to put your stuff in,a couple of
u-joints, a set of rachet straps, maybe a set of new gauges,(if needed), the
Hi-lift Base (a plastic base for the jack that keeps it from going into the
sand or mud, works great) a set of good tow hooks, a battery killswitch kit,
a KandN ail fliter cleaning kit, or maybe buy a bunch of stickers..........
Just some ideas I had. I have had some practice with this. All should be
under 75 dollars.
hope it helps all,
John K
37068 From: jetowle2000 <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:44am
Subject: Re: -----------GIft IdEas
I think you could get him all the stuff to do flush mount rear lights
and then help him install them.
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., "kmichael02" <kmichael02@y...> wrote:
> What are some useful items that can be given as gifts for a yj
that
> are under $75. Throw them all out there as I'm at a loss b/c of
all
> the "stuff" that i currently have i'm not sure what to suggest.
> Friend and i are exchanging and i figured might as well have him
get
> something for the jeep.
>
> thanks
>
> mike
37069 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:45am
Subject: [FS] four american racing "pioneers"
Price: 70.00 obo
Contact: squarelights@aol.com
15x7, good shape polished steel here is a pic of them....
http://www.truckaddons.com/Catalog/custom_wheels.htm?CP1=Goto&CP2;=american_racing
37070 From: jetowle2000 <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:47am
Subject: Re: -----------GIft IdEas
and a gift certificate to Hunter Off Road for welding mods... :)
BTW - John I referred Mike Waterman to you last night. He just got a
RE long arm kit installed and needs someone to truss up his axle
brackets.
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., hunteroffroad@a... wrote:
> Hi-lift Jack, Tow strap, D-rings (Shackels), Lights, a good tool
set for the
> trail, seat covers, a couple of ammo cans for storage, a gas can or
2, CB
> radio, a new or extra winch cable, a case of good oil, gift
certificate to
> Auto Zone or Pep Boys etc., air down tools likea air release tool
or a new
> fancy-make-them-jealous-kick-***-airpresure-gauge, a tire repair
kit, a
> folding shovel or a fullsize shovel with halfstick handle, a fire
> exstigusher, KandN air filter, new wires for the spark plugs maybe
plugs too,
> new shackles, those cute fuzzy pads for the seat belts, any
selection of
> Rubbermiad containers or somethng like it to put your stuff in,a
couple of
> u-joints, a set of rachet straps, maybe a set of new gauges,(if
needed), the
> Hi-lift Base (a plastic base for the jack that keeps it from going
into the
> sand or mud, works great) a set of good tow hooks, a battery
killswitch kit,
> a KandN ail fliter cleaning kit, or maybe buy a bunch of
stickers..........
>
> Just some ideas I had. I have had some practice with this. All
should be
> under 75 dollars.
> hope it helps all,
> John K
37071 From: paparoach85251 <lespaparoach@m...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:59am
Subject: advertisements
When at work I read all of the posts on the yahoo groups page. Today
for some reason all of the post have large advertisements inserted
into the body of the post. Why is this? And how do we get rid of
it...it is very annoying especially when they cover up part of the
senders message.
Les
37072 From: brian56b <brian56b@y...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 9:06am
Subject: Christmas Party?
I'm new to the group and wondering about the Christmas party this
weekend Is it happening and where and when will you meet?
Thanks,
Brian
37073 From: Robert Holmes <flamable_liquid@h...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 9:17am
Subject: Re: Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
The 29th sounds good to me. We only have our Scrambler, and a winch, But hey
should be fun if nothing else.
>From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
>Reply-To: minihummer@w...
>To: az_vjc <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>, "Nixon, Scott" <scnix1@h...>
>Subject: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
>Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:41:55 -0700
>
>Okay, I got word from the Forest Service that it is okay for us to pull
>the burned SUV out from the second cove to the Butcher Jones parking
>area. They want a date when we are going to do this. My suggestion is
>Dec 29 or 30.
>
>What's needed:
>
>* At least 3 FS 4x4s or vehicles with D60s and lots of low-end torque.
>The hardest part is going to be pulling the darn thing up and down the
>hills so we need some grunt and maybe a winch or two. I have asked the
>Lo-Rangers to help out since we need some heavy vehicles to handle the
>hills.
>
>* I am sure the coves are pretty dirty so doing a cleanup on the worst
>of the coves would be a good idea too. The 1st and 2nd are the easiest
>to get to so they are probably the worst. If anyone wants to head out to
>the 3rd and 4th, that's a good idea too. I guess it depends on how many
>show up.
>
>* Holiday Party - Well.... How about a picnic lunch and bring enough of
>one side dish along to share with 2-3 people.
>
>How does this sound?
>
>Linda
>
>
>
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>
>
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37074 From: my1stjeep <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 9:26am
Subject: [OT]"Twas" Afghanistan Christmas Carol
This was way to funny not to post...
Twas the night before Christmas and all
through the Land,
They're running like rabbits in Afghanistan,
Osama's been praying, he's down on his Knees,
He's hoping that Allah will hear all his Pleas.
He thought if he killed us that we'd fall and
Shatter,
But all that he's done is just make us Madder.
We ain't yet forgotten our Marines in Beirut,
And we'll kick your butt, with one heavy Boot.
And yes we remember the USS Cole,
And the lives of our sailors that you
*******s Stole.
You think you can rule us and cause us to Fear,
You'll soon get the answer if you live to Hear.
And we ain't forgotten your buddy Saddam,
And he ain't forgotten the sound of our Bombs.
You think that those mountains are somewhere to Hide.
They'll go down in history as the place where you Died.
Remember Khadhafi and his Line of Death?
He came very close, to his final Breath.
So come out and prove it, that you are a Man,
Cause our boys are coming and they have a Plan.
They are our fathers and they are our Sons,
And they sure do carry some mighty big Guns.
They would have stayed home with children and Wives,
Till you *******s came here and took all these Lives.
Osama I wrote this especially for You,
For air mail delivery by B-52.
You soon will be hearing a thud and a whistle,
Old Glory is coming, attached to a Missle.
I will not be sorry to see your *** Go.
It's Red, White, and Blue that is running this Show.
Walt
Chevy-Talk
37075 From: stallonedev <stallonedev@y...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 9:31am
Subject: Need Black boot's for shocks
Hey I just bought a set of Ranch 9000's and I don't want to put the
red boot's that come with them on, does anybody have a set of black
boots that would like to trade or sell for cheap. If nobody does have
a pair does anybody know where I can get 4 of them for a good
price. Thanks Anthony
37051 From: AzVJC Website <david.houk@o...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 5:29am
Subject: [TR] Unspecified - Saturday, December 15, 2001 - Reminder
Hello All,
Jon Loveless is leading an Unspecified trail run on Saturday, December 15, 2001.
When: 9AM until Noon
Where: Fountain Hills Community Center classroom 1 or 2
La Montana and Ave. of the Fountain, Fountain Hills, AZ
Rating: None
Length: 3 hours
CB Channel:
Basic GPS class presented by Stu Olson. Open only to AZVJC members and covering basic GPS concepts with added emphasis on OziExplorer. May be followed by a trail run on a nearby trail using a route created in the session (if enough are interested.)
Tentative agenda:
-Basic GPS 101 - terminology
-Basic OZIExplorer 101
-Maps - what they are, how to get them
-Maps - how to use them with OZI
-Setting up a route in OZI
-Transferring the route to the GPS
-Tracking with a GPS
-Transferring the track to OZI
To sign up you must be one of the first 30 to sign on here with a "Definate"
There is a $3 per person fee to cover the room and the professor's gas and effort.
If you are interested in a 2-3 hour trail run after the session please also sign up for the Mud Springs run on the same day. The run will only be done with enough interest.
Sign Up List:
KC Vehr Definite
Walter Brown Definite
Bob Lynn Definite
Mike Waterman Definite
Dan Schwartz Definite
Rodney Neiman Definite
Scott Maiden Definite
Dave Kober Definite
Mike Wixom Definite
Lew Williams Definite
Gary Gardner Definite
Definite
David Houk Definite
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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37052 From: J & P Visic <jpvisic@n...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 5:53am
Subject: Re: Must Read 4x4ing Lesson/Story, And a mouse
John,
Glad to hear you're OK. I have to admit, I go wheeling alone all the time.
I love to explore the old mines south of the Gila River in the area of
Grayback. My timing is such that trips just come up quickly and happen, or
don't happen at all. I carry "stuff" and try to keep my CJ in good shape,
but you just never know. Thanks for the heads up and reminder.
While we're on the subject, one of the things I always wonder about is what
tools to carry. In my experience fixing things anywhere but my garage I
never seem to anticpate and take the right tools. When packing tools for an
unknown problem it seems to me that unless you pull a trailer the chances of
having the tools you need are pretty slim. I carry 2 each standard and
phillips screwdrivers, 10" and 12" crescent, 7/16 through 3/4 box end
wrenches, small ball peen hammer, and small pry bar. I can think of alot of
problems that these tools wouldn't take care of. Any tips out there on
fundamental tools to carry as routine?
Once again, glad you and your finger made it.
John
84 CJ-7
Casa Grande
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Kruize" <scottkruize@e...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:18 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Must Read 4x4ing Lesson/Story, And a mouse
> John
>
> I'm glad it turned out okay for you. I remember Len's post a year or so
back
> about the rollover he witnessed out near Bartlett. You posted this as a
> reminder to all that we really are in a dangerous sport and need to be
> careful. Thanks for being humble enough to post it.
>
> You did break rule #1 - Never go out wheeling alone. Had you been
following
> me you'd have never gotten stuck. The mouse would have been a red spot in
> the snow. See how important it is to take a friend? <Grin>
>
> Take care,
>
> Scott K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hunteroffroad@a... [mailto:hunteroffroad@a...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 8:52 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Must Read 4x4ing Lesson/Story, And a mouse
>
>
> Ok, I am telling this so people will see the importance of being prepared.
> Hopefully, by reading it, it will make your next trip a bit safer. And
maybe
> get a get a lugh out of it. I think in a week or two I might begin to
laugh
> myself.
>
> Last night, my girlfreind and I went up to Fourpeaks to go see some
snow.
> Innocent trip. What could happen? It is a graded road all the way up, be
> there and back in 5 hours... No problem. What could go wrong? Thats
what
> I
> was thinking... so with that in mind, so I loaded up all my rescue stuff,
> my
> shovels, Max-Ax, straps, and Hi-Lift, out of my rock buggy, "Big Ugly",
> into
> my Land Cruiser and took off for the mountains. (Mind you, this is the
> first
> time I have had my Land Cruiser offroad in over 2 years, but that is a
> longer
> story)
> So, I am on my way to the top, making good time, haveing a great time
with
> girlfreind. Ok, then comes the mouse. This furball darted out in front
of
> me and did that "headlight stop" right in front of me, I hit the brakes
and
> stopped. I think he is gone and keep going, about 100 yards down the
road,
> my girlfreind is worried, "What if you hit him and his just hurt, I dont
> want
> him to suffer". So, Like a good guy I go back to look. (I have a heart
for
> small fuzzy things too). We get to the spot where the mouse and we look.
I
> turn the Crusier around on the trail and back off a small concrete bridge.
> My passenger rear tire is up on a small bank, my driver rear tire is
sitting
> below the lip of the concrete by about 1 foot. I am sitting on my leaf
> spring.
>
> Just a trip to the snow, what go worng. Because of a mouse, I happend
> to
> back off the only 8 foot span of concrete on a 18 friggin mile long trail.
>
> Ya, I was not happy........
>
> But I had my "stuff", thank good. Out came the Ax, on goes the shovel
> attachment, and out comes the Hi-lift. I start digging and lifting. I
have
> been stuck worse. Well, this is were things go from bad, to really,
really
> bad. In the process of digging out, another TJ came along, he didnt have
> anything, not even a strap. But he was willing to help. Mostly they
talked
> to my girl freind as I dug and swore underneath my Cruiser. I was getting
> close to getting out. I all had to do was place one more rock under the
> tire
> and I was going to have the guy strap me out. (It was my strap, he didnt
> have one) I have always hated working underneath a 4x4 when it is jacked
up
> by a Hi-lift. I have this fear of slipping and dropping on me. I was
being
> as careful as possible. Everybody was clear, in case the jack shot out, I
> was doing good. I was slowly postiong the rock under the tire, trying to
my
> hands clear........
>
> Then it happend...
>
> The Jack slipped and the Land Cruiser came down on the rock. I thought
I
> was ok (that thought lasted about .2 nanoseconds) unitl I realised, that
my
> right index finger was pinned between a big rock and 33" General mud tire
> attached to 5300 pound 4x4.. I kept my cool and told the guy to start
> helping me dig. (I would have had him use the Jack, but he didnt know how
> to
> use one. This was not the time to give someone a lesson.) The ground was
> soft and digging was the quickest and simplest way to go. Soon, the rock
> started dropping and the rear of the Cruiser sat on the bridge and I was
> able
> to get my finger out. All in all, everyone figures I was under there for
> about 30 to 45 seconds. My finger, was crushed. Nothing was broken but
it
> was literally squeeshed flat. I had on have leather gloves which is the
> only
> thing that saved the sand and mud from removeing the skin from the bone.
> Imagine 20 grit sand paper with a 1000 Lbs of presure. My girl freind
> whipped out the first aid kit and I popped a bunch of Ibuprofren ( I
have
> no idea how to spell that ). It took about 5 to 10 minutes for my finger
to
> start to fill back out. Literally, it looked like something out of a
> cartoon. With in 30 minutes I could move my finger without much
> restriction, and tonight I can sit here and type this with no problems. I
> was way lucky. I used up a lot of prayer time on that one. We packed up
> and
> we headed up to play in the snow.
>
> This was supposed to be an easy easy trail, but, somehow I managed to
end
> up with the back of Cruiser of a concrete bridge and my finger pinned
under
> the tire. Ya, Murphy was there, I could smell him. The point of this is
> to
> show, you never, NEVER know when it is going to hit the fan. I was lucky.
I
> had my gear. I was able to take care of my self. But I almost left with
out
> it. And God only knows how bad it could have been. Always take your
stuff.
> And if you done have any, GET IT.
>
> I know in the past, people have past around the list of what to carry
when
> they go out. But I know alot of you dont for one reason or another. Take
> this story to heart.
> These things saved my ***, and finger,
>
> *Hi-lift, tow strap, First Aid Kit, Max-Ax Muiltipurpose tool (or shovel
and
> stuff), Gloves, proper clothing. ( I was outside for almost an hour over
> this, and we where getting snowed on)
>
>
> I hope this helps, Take the story for what you want, a good humor story,
> or
> a good lesson or both. By the way, the mouse, he was fine. He got away.
>
> Best Regards
> John K
> "Hunter"
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
37053 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 5:51am
Subject: RE: [TR] Unspecified - Saturday, December 15, 2001 - Reminder
Directions for getting to the GPS class.
From Shea Blvd:
1. in Fountain Hills, turn on Saguaro Blvd (can only go 1 direction)
2. Continue to El Lago Blvd (about 2 miles), go left.
3. At La Montana (1/4 mile), go right
4. The entrance to the community center is on La Montana shortly after the turn from El Lago.
5. There are 2 multi-colored buildings in this complex. One is the Library, the other is the community center. As you enter the parking lot from La Montana, the Community Center is the left-most building.
The GPS seminar will be posted in the lobby but we are supposed to be in Classroom I.
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: AzVJC Website [mailto:david.houk@onsemi.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:30 PM
To: AzVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Unspecified - Saturday, December 15, 2001 - Reminder
Hello All,
Jon Loveless is leading an Unspecified trail run on Saturday, December 15, 2001.
When: 9AM until Noon
Where: Fountain Hills Community Center classroom 1 or 2
La Montana and Ave. of the Fountain, Fountain Hills, AZ
Rating: None
Length: 3 hours
CB Channel:
Basic GPS class presented by Stu Olson. Open only to AZVJC members and covering basic GPS concepts with added emphasis on OziExplorer. May be followed by a trail run on a nearby trail using a route created in the session (if enough are interested.)
Tentative agenda:
-Basic GPS 101 - terminology
-Basic OZIExplorer 101
-Maps - what they are, how to get them
-Maps - how to use them with OZI
-Setting up a route in OZI
-Transferring the route to the GPS
-Tracking with a GPS
-Transferring the track to OZI
To sign up you must be one of the first 30 to sign on here with a "Definate"
There is a $3 per person fee to cover the room and the professor's gas and effort.
If you are interested in a 2-3 hour trail run after the session please also sign up for the Mud Springs run on the same day. The run will only be done with enough interest.
Sign Up List:
KC Vehr Definite
Walter Brown Definite
Bob Lynn Definite
Mike Waterman Definite
Dan Schwartz Definite
Rodney Neiman Definite
Scott Maiden Definite
Dave Kober Definite
Mike Wixom Definite
Lew Williams Definite
Gary Gardner Definite
Definite
David Houk Definite
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
37054 From: jaylalib <jaylalib@h...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 7:13am
Subject: Custom Bumpers (Check it out)
I remembered the name. Here is the link to the bumpers.
http://www.trailready.com/images/TJ/TJF2.jpg
37055 From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 7:19am
Subject: Re: New Sahara
Hey now...real men drive YELLOW TJ's!
Mike Baney
--- In az_vjc@y..., "jetowle2000" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
>
> And your point is?..... Never mind ;)
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Larry Farquhar" <lfar@h...> wrote:
> > ---snip----
> > Besides, you couldn't get a Sahara in
> > YELLOW!
> >
> > Larry Farquhar
> > '01 TJ - "Wyle E" (lurking member of the banana bunch)
> > www.azjeeper.com
37056 From: wishmaaker <wishmaaker@y...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 7:43am
Subject: Re: New Sahara
one word for ya!
Baywatch!
--- In az_vjc@y..., "jeepin_in_az" <jeepin_in_az@y...> wrote:
> Hey now...real men drive YELLOW TJ's!
>
> Mike Baney
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "jetowle2000" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
> >
> > And your point is?..... Never mind ;)
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Larry Farquhar" <lfar@h...> wrote:
> > > ---snip----
> > > Besides, you couldn't get a Sahara in
> > > YELLOW!
> > >
> > > Larry Farquhar
> > > '01 TJ - "Wyle E" (lurking member of the banana bunch)
> > > www.azjeeper.com
37057 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 2:45am
Subject: Re: Must Read 4x4ing Lesson/Story, And a mouse
One of the things I am thinkin about getting is that "Gator Socket". That
one size fits all. That could be a pretty handy tool on the trail. I had a
customer come in about a month ago and said he had picked one up and it
worked pretty well. May not be the best for everyday use, but would be
perfect for trail use. Where you could have metric or standard. Thinking I
should tell Santa about that one.....
John K
"hunter"
37058 From: kmichael02 <kmichael02@y...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 7:48am
Subject: -----------GIft IdEas
What are some useful items that can be given as gifts for a yj that
are under $75. Throw them all out there as I'm at a loss b/c of all
the "stuff" that i currently have i'm not sure what to suggest.
Friend and i are exchanging and i figured might as well have him get
something for the jeep.
thanks
mike
37059 From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 7:51am
Subject: Re: Must Read 4x4ing Lesson/Story, And a mouse
Glad to hear you are ok John, hope you got to use that new first aid
kit.
Mike
Murphy sucks!
--- In az_vjc@y..., hunteroffroad@a... wrote:
> Oh, Just for the reocrd, we had a cell phone which is useless in
most parts
> of the Four peaks. I had CB, but only good if someone is
listineing. We
> have enough food and water for a couple of days. ( I always keep
dryfood in
> my rescue bag.) My roomate and my dad knew that if I wasnt home by
Weds.
> mornning by 1030, I was in FR 143 somewhere.
>
> Just goes to show you, the best plans... Well, its the %#$ hole
of guy
> name Murphy....
>
> JohnK
37060 From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 7:56am
Subject: Re: New Sahara
AH, but girls like the banana! ;) They can use it for....oh ya,
family group again...
Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Kruize" <scottkruize@e...> wrote:
> The coolest part about owning a banana Jeep is that when it begins
to rust
> it still looks like a (over ripe) banana. <hehe>
>
> Oh yeah, before getting in your banana Jeep be sure to check for
spiders.
> Sometimes they hitch a ride in the crate....
>
> Scott K - 1999 Desert Sand TJ, aka "Daddy Longlegs", aka "Banana
Crusher"
> <Grin>
>
> PS - Some of my best friends own banana Jeeps.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Baja Fleg [mailto:fleigle@h...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:05 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: New Sahara
>
>
> Everyone knows that Yellow Jeeps are faster ;)
>
> Michael
> (Evil member of the banana bunch)
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
>
> And your point is?..... Never mind ;)
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Larry Farquhar" <lfar@h...> wrote:
> > ---snip----
> > Besides, you couldn't get a Sahara in
> > YELLOW!
> >
> > Larry Farquhar
> > '01 TJ - "Wyle E" (lurking member of the banana bunch)
> > www.azjeeper.com
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37061 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 7:59am
Subject: RE: -----------GIft IdEas
Off Road lights might be under 75.
Joey K
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kmichael02 [mailto:kmichael02@y...]
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 8:48 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] -----------GIft IdEas
>
>
> What are some useful items that can be given as gifts for a yj that
> are under $75. Throw them all out there as I'm at a loss b/c of all
> the "stuff" that i currently have i'm not sure what to suggest.
> Friend and i are exchanging and i figured might as well have him get
> something for the jeep.
>
> thanks
>
> mike
>
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37062 From: JoeKPhx <JoeKPhx@h...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:02am
Subject: RE: Must Read 4x4ing Lesson/Story, And a mouse
That was a great story. I am heading up to Flagstaff (Wife getting
Masters Degree, yeah, more money for Jeep)this Saturday and I will make
sure that I have all of the essentials.
You NEVER do know what will happen.
GOD BLESS AMERICA
Joe Kearney
Have a good day
-----Original Message-----
From: hunteroffroad@a... [mailto:hunteroffroad@a...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 8:52 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Must Read 4x4ing Lesson/Story, And a mouse
Ok, I am telling this so people will see the importance of being
prepared.
Hopefully, by reading it, it will make your next trip a bit safer. And
maybe
get a get a lugh out of it. I think in a week or two I might begin to
laugh
myself.
Last night, my girlfreind and I went up to Fourpeaks to go see some
snow.
Innocent trip. What could happen? It is a graded road all the way up,
be
there and back in 5 hours... No problem. What could go wrong? Thats
what I
was thinking... so with that in mind, so I loaded up all my rescue
stuff, my
shovels, Max-Ax, straps, and Hi-Lift, out of my rock buggy, "Big Ugly",
into
my Land Cruiser and took off for the mountains. (Mind you, this is the
first
time I have had my Land Cruiser offroad in over 2 years, but that is a
longer
story)
So, I am on my way to the top, making good time, haveing a great time
with
girlfreind. Ok, then comes the mouse. This furball darted out in front
of
me and did that "headlight stop" right in front of me, I hit the brakes
and
stopped. I think he is gone and keep going, about 100 yards down the
road,
my girlfreind is worried, "What if you hit him and his just hurt, I dont
want
him to suffer". So, Like a good guy I go back to look. (I have a heart
for
small fuzzy things too). We get to the spot where the mouse and we
look. I
turn the Crusier around on the trail and back off a small concrete
bridge.
My passenger rear tire is up on a small bank, my driver rear tire is
sitting
below the lip of the concrete by about 1 foot. I am sitting on my leaf
spring.
Just a trip to the snow, what go worng. Because of a mouse, I
happend to
back off the only 8 foot span of concrete on a 18 friggin mile long
trail.
Ya, I was not happy........
But I had my "stuff", thank good. Out came the Ax, on goes the
shovel
attachment, and out comes the Hi-lift. I start digging and lifting. I
have
been stuck worse. Well, this is were things go from bad, to really,
really
bad. In the process of digging out, another TJ came along, he didnt
have
anything, not even a strap. But he was willing to help. Mostly they
talked
to my girl freind as I dug and swore underneath my Cruiser. I was
getting
close to getting out. I all had to do was place one more rock under the
tire
and I was going to have the guy strap me out. (It was my strap, he
didnt
have one) I have always hated working underneath a 4x4 when it is
jacked up
by a Hi-lift. I have this fear of slipping and dropping on me. I was
being
as careful as possible. Everybody was clear, in case the jack shot out,
I
was doing good. I was slowly postiong the rock under the tire, trying
to my
hands clear........
Then it happend...
The Jack slipped and the Land Cruiser came down on the rock. I
thought I
was ok (that thought lasted about .2 nanoseconds) unitl I realised,
that my
right index finger was pinned between a big rock and 33" General mud
tire
attached to 5300 pound 4x4.. I kept my cool and told the guy to start
helping me dig. (I would have had him use the Jack, but he didnt know
how to
use one. This was not the time to give someone a lesson.) The ground
was
soft and digging was the quickest and simplest way to go. Soon, the
rock
started dropping and the rear of the Cruiser sat on the bridge and I was
able
to get my finger out. All in all, everyone figures I was under there
for
about 30 to 45 seconds. My finger, was crushed. Nothing was broken but
it
was literally squeeshed flat. I had on have leather gloves which is the
only
thing that saved the sand and mud from removeing the skin from the bone.
Imagine 20 grit sand paper with a 1000 Lbs of presure. My girl freind
whipped out the first aid kit and I popped a bunch of Ibuprofren ( I
have
no idea how to spell that ). It took about 5 to 10 minutes for my
finger to
start to fill back out. Literally, it looked like something out of a
cartoon. With in 30 minutes I could move my finger without much
restriction, and tonight I can sit here and type this with no problems.
I
was way lucky. I used up a lot of prayer time on that one. We packed
up and
we headed up to play in the snow.
This was supposed to be an easy easy trail, but, somehow I managed to
end
up with the back of Cruiser of a concrete bridge and my finger pinned
under
the tire. Ya, Murphy was there, I could smell him. The point of this
is to
show, you never, NEVER know when it is going to hit the fan. I was
lucky. I
had my gear. I was able to take care of my self. But I almost left with
out
it. And God only knows how bad it could have been. Always take your
stuff.
And if you done have any, GET IT.
I know in the past, people have past around the list of what to carry
when
they go out. But I know alot of you dont for one reason or another.
Take
this story to heart.
These things saved my ***, and finger,
*Hi-lift, tow strap, First Aid Kit, Max-Ax Muiltipurpose tool (or shovel
and
stuff), Gloves, proper clothing. ( I was outside for almost an hour
over
this, and we where getting snowed on)
I hope this helps, Take the story for what you want, a good humor
story, or
a good lesson or both. By the way, the mouse, he was fine. He got
away.
Best Regards
John K
"Hunter"
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37063 From: Fred <fredtj@h...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:07am
Subject: Re: Tire/Mechanic Discounts in Tucson?
Yup, Mike at Kiatek is the way to go. Good guy, good work. For tires, check with Eric at the Discount Tire store at Speedway and Dodge. He gives great deals to the Tucson Rough Riders.
Cheers,
Fred
jraya@attglobal.net wrote:
As far as a mechanic I would try Mike @ Kiatek 3601 E Speedway 327-7313 he isalso a member of the Tucson Rough Riders. As far as tires we always havegood luck at Discount Tire and they beat or match prices. There is a guy onthis list who works at Discount in Phx His name is Rick Beers he may be ableto help you out.Judymoontweezers wrote:
Hi,I'm a newbie to Jeepin' and the list. Just getting started on my 89wrangler. Do you guys know of a good mechanic to go to here in Tucson?I've got a leaky axle seal, and thats over my head. Also, Where is agood place to get deals on tires, here? Thanks, I look foward tomeeting some of you as soon as I get this heep trail worthy.Mike HudsonYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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37064 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 3:01am
Subject: Re: Re: Must Read 4x4ing Lesson/Story, And a mouse
Actaully Mike It was your kit that you bought. It definatly came in handy.
Thank you.
John K
37065 From: <hillb@s...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:21am
Subject: RE: Re: New Sahara
My wife just got a new TJ, and you wouldn't see her picture in the
dictionary next to the word TALL. What color are the steps and how much do
you want?
Ben
"Stu Olson"
<solson8@qwes To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
t.net> cc:
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: New Sahara
12/12/2001
06:57 PM
Or you can do what I did....trade the pulled Sahara parts for $$. I
couldn't see throwing the stuff away, that seemed rather silly. The only
"pulled item" left from mine are a pair of OEM steps. Anyone need a pair
cheap? ;)
If you are going to "roll your own", might as well order it with what you
want. ;)
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@h...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 6:20 PM
To: 'Scott Kruize'; 'wishmaaker'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: New Sahara
David,
Definitly go with a Sport if you are going to build the Jeep up. Don't
waste your money on the Sahara like I did.
Scott Kruize is right; you end up throwing most of the Sahara crap out
anyway; why pay for it in the first place.
Get a sport in the color you want, and I'd recommend the following options:
Dual tops or soft top only, DO NOT get just a hardtop.
Dana 44 rear axle.
Air Conditioning.
Cruise Control (I know, I know... but I REALLY like it on longer drives).
Joe West
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37066 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:24am
Subject: Re: -----------GIft IdEas
Tire deflators make good gifts. The ones that air down to a preset
pressure and then stop automatically are about $40-$50 a set while
the manual ones (Quick Air Deflators) go for about $11 a set.
-Roger
kmichael02 wrote:
>
> What are some useful items that can be given as gifts for a yj that
> are under $75. Throw them all out there as I'm at a loss b/c of all
> the "stuff" that i currently have i'm not sure what to suggest.
> Friend and i are exchanging and i figured might as well have him get
> something for the jeep.
>
> thanks
>
> mike
37067 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 3:39am
Subject: Re: -----------GIft IdEas
Hi-lift Jack, Tow strap, D-rings (Shackels), Lights, a good tool set for the
trail, seat covers, a couple of ammo cans for storage, a gas can or 2, CB
radio, a new or extra winch cable, a case of good oil, gift certificate to
Auto Zone or Pep Boys etc., air down tools likea air release tool or a new
fancy-make-them-jealous-kick-***-airpresure-gauge, a tire repair kit, a
folding shovel or a fullsize shovel with halfstick handle, a fire
exstigusher, KandN air filter, new wires for the spark plugs maybe plugs too,
new shackles, those cute fuzzy pads for the seat belts, any selection of
Rubbermiad containers or somethng like it to put your stuff in,a couple of
u-joints, a set of rachet straps, maybe a set of new gauges,(if needed), the
Hi-lift Base (a plastic base for the jack that keeps it from going into the
sand or mud, works great) a set of good tow hooks, a battery killswitch kit,
a KandN ail fliter cleaning kit, or maybe buy a bunch of stickers..........
Just some ideas I had. I have had some practice with this. All should be
under 75 dollars.
hope it helps all,
John K
37068 From: jetowle2000 <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:44am
Subject: Re: -----------GIft IdEas
I think you could get him all the stuff to do flush mount rear lights
and then help him install them.
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., "kmichael02" <kmichael02@y...> wrote:
> What are some useful items that can be given as gifts for a yj
that
> are under $75. Throw them all out there as I'm at a loss b/c of
all
> the "stuff" that i currently have i'm not sure what to suggest.
> Friend and i are exchanging and i figured might as well have him
get
> something for the jeep.
>
> thanks
>
> mike
37069 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:45am
Subject: [FS] four american racing "pioneers"
Price: 70.00 obo
Contact: squarelights@aol.com
15x7, good shape polished steel here is a pic of them....
http://www.truckaddons.com/Catalog/custom_wheels.htm?CP1=Goto&CP2;=american_racing
37070 From: jetowle2000 <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:47am
Subject: Re: -----------GIft IdEas
and a gift certificate to Hunter Off Road for welding mods... :)
BTW - John I referred Mike Waterman to you last night. He just got a
RE long arm kit installed and needs someone to truss up his axle
brackets.
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., hunteroffroad@a... wrote:
> Hi-lift Jack, Tow strap, D-rings (Shackels), Lights, a good tool
set for the
> trail, seat covers, a couple of ammo cans for storage, a gas can or
2, CB
> radio, a new or extra winch cable, a case of good oil, gift
certificate to
> Auto Zone or Pep Boys etc., air down tools likea air release tool
or a new
> fancy-make-them-jealous-kick-***-airpresure-gauge, a tire repair
kit, a
> folding shovel or a fullsize shovel with halfstick handle, a fire
> exstigusher, KandN air filter, new wires for the spark plugs maybe
plugs too,
> new shackles, those cute fuzzy pads for the seat belts, any
selection of
> Rubbermiad containers or somethng like it to put your stuff in,a
couple of
> u-joints, a set of rachet straps, maybe a set of new gauges,(if
needed), the
> Hi-lift Base (a plastic base for the jack that keeps it from going
into the
> sand or mud, works great) a set of good tow hooks, a battery
killswitch kit,
> a KandN ail fliter cleaning kit, or maybe buy a bunch of
stickers..........
>
> Just some ideas I had. I have had some practice with this. All
should be
> under 75 dollars.
> hope it helps all,
> John K
37071 From: paparoach85251 <lespaparoach@m...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 8:59am
Subject: advertisements
When at work I read all of the posts on the yahoo groups page. Today
for some reason all of the post have large advertisements inserted
into the body of the post. Why is this? And how do we get rid of
it...it is very annoying especially when they cover up part of the
senders message.
Les
37072 From: brian56b <brian56b@y...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 9:06am
Subject: Christmas Party?
I'm new to the group and wondering about the Christmas party this
weekend Is it happening and where and when will you meet?
Thanks,
Brian
37073 From: Robert Holmes <flamable_liquid@h...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 9:17am
Subject: Re: Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
The 29th sounds good to me. We only have our Scrambler, and a winch, But hey
should be fun if nothing else.
>From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
>Reply-To: minihummer@w...
>To: az_vjc <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>, "Nixon, Scott" <scnix1@h...>
>Subject: [az_vjc] Holiday Party - Coves Cleanup - SUV Pull
>Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:41:55 -0700
>
>Okay, I got word from the Forest Service that it is okay for us to pull
>the burned SUV out from the second cove to the Butcher Jones parking
>area. They want a date when we are going to do this. My suggestion is
>Dec 29 or 30.
>
>What's needed:
>
>* At least 3 FS 4x4s or vehicles with D60s and lots of low-end torque.
>The hardest part is going to be pulling the darn thing up and down the
>hills so we need some grunt and maybe a winch or two. I have asked the
>Lo-Rangers to help out since we need some heavy vehicles to handle the
>hills.
>
>* I am sure the coves are pretty dirty so doing a cleanup on the worst
>of the coves would be a good idea too. The 1st and 2nd are the easiest
>to get to so they are probably the worst. If anyone wants to head out to
>the 3rd and 4th, that's a good idea too. I guess it depends on how many
>show up.
>
>* Holiday Party - Well.... How about a picnic lunch and bring enough of
>one side dish along to share with 2-3 people.
>
>How does this sound?
>
>Linda
>
>
>
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37074 From: my1stjeep <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 9:26am
Subject: [OT]"Twas" Afghanistan Christmas Carol
This was way to funny not to post...
Twas the night before Christmas and all
through the Land,
They're running like rabbits in Afghanistan,
Osama's been praying, he's down on his Knees,
He's hoping that Allah will hear all his Pleas.
He thought if he killed us that we'd fall and
Shatter,
But all that he's done is just make us Madder.
We ain't yet forgotten our Marines in Beirut,
And we'll kick your butt, with one heavy Boot.
And yes we remember the USS Cole,
And the lives of our sailors that you
*******s Stole.
You think you can rule us and cause us to Fear,
You'll soon get the answer if you live to Hear.
And we ain't forgotten your buddy Saddam,
And he ain't forgotten the sound of our Bombs.
You think that those mountains are somewhere to Hide.
They'll go down in history as the place where you Died.
Remember Khadhafi and his Line of Death?
He came very close, to his final Breath.
So come out and prove it, that you are a Man,
Cause our boys are coming and they have a Plan.
They are our fathers and they are our Sons,
And they sure do carry some mighty big Guns.
They would have stayed home with children and Wives,
Till you *******s came here and took all these Lives.
Osama I wrote this especially for You,
For air mail delivery by B-52.
You soon will be hearing a thud and a whistle,
Old Glory is coming, attached to a Missle.
I will not be sorry to see your *** Go.
It's Red, White, and Blue that is running this Show.
Walt
Chevy-Talk
37075 From: stallonedev <stallonedev@y...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 9:31am
Subject: Need Black boot's for shocks
Hey I just bought a set of Ranch 9000's and I don't want to put the
red boot's that come with them on, does anybody have a set of black
boots that would like to trade or sell for cheap. If nobody does have
a pair does anybody know where I can get 4 of them for a good
price. Thanks Anthony