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36676 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 2:36pm
Subject: RE: Re: Darner Discount
Is that anything like break oil that keeps your breaks from squeekin'?
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 3:21 PM
> To: AzVJC
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Darner Discount
>
>
> I got a great deal there on muffler bearings. They are a hard
> to find item, but apparently they keep them in stock.
>
> Doug
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <dirtdog@u...>
> > To: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 9:04 AM
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Darner Discount
> >
> >
> > > WOW! premium blinker fluid, you TJ guys get all the good stuff.
> > > Thanks for the effort on the discount. Bernie
> > >
> > > DougB wrote:
> > >
> > > > What went into your vehicle...ie D44, AM/FM radio,
> premium blinker
> > fluid,
> > > > etc...
> > > >
> > > > Doug
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
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36677 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 2:42pm
Subject: RE: Need suggestions for easy scenic newbie trails
This is a very scenic one. And I believe it is FR 41. The water should
be down so crossing won't be a problem.
Joey K
> -----Original Message-----
> From: linda luik [mailto:minihummer@w...]
> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 9:51 AM
> To: jeeperaz
> Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Need suggestions for easy scenic newbie trails
>
>
> The FR between Table Mesa and Seven Springs north of Cave
> Creek is a easy scenice trail with a couple of small
> obstacles (a short rock ledge, maybe some minor water
> crossing, a long somewhat steep hill).
>
> Linda
>
> jeeperaz wrote:
> >
> > Quite a few people at my work have recently purchased Jeeps
> and I want
> > to show them what kind of world is now open to them. They are all
> > interested in going out on a trail run but they are extremely
> > inexperienced and maybe a little timid... I doubt they know how to
> > shift their vehicles into 4wd.
> >
> > I need suggestions on scenic, easy trails north or west of
> Phoenix so
> > I can scout a few out before I lead them. Something of a 4
> or 5 hour
> > duration would be good.
> >
> > For comparisons sake, FR42 would be way too intimidating for these
> > people. Crown King might be a little much as well.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Larry
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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36678 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 3:05pm
Subject: Re: Re: Table Mesa Area Trash
Another point...it'd just get filled up by those that might otherwise would
be inclined to pack out their stuff.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
To: "'weasel_ugs'" <weaselugs@h...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 3:24 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Table Mesa Area Trash
> Not so much the question of who would empty it (it is emptied by the
company
> it is rented from)...but more like who would pay for it?
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: weasel_ugs [mailto:weaselugs@h...]
> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 1:29 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Table Mesa Area Trash
>
>
> My friends and I shoot up there and ride quads,we always haul out
> what we bring and try to collect a little more.A sign would do
> nothing to help,except something for them to shoot at.A dumpster
> might help so people wouldnt have to bring their stuff all the way
> back to discard,but who would empty it? Don
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., SKYDIVEMAT@a... wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Has anyone looked in to the possibility of get a permanent dumpster
> for the
> > air down spot? Also, looked into anything we can do about all the
> trash left
> > behind by some of the target shooters? Is there any way of
> educating these
> > people not to ruin the natural beauty of the AZ desert (not there
> anymore).
> > I have this vision of these people loading up there vehicle with
> what ever
> > they are going to shoot at in the morning, heading out, and have
> the full
> > intention of leaving it behind. Maybe posting a sign asking them
> to remove
> > what they bring in. Every time I make a run up there I take
> something off
> > the trail with me (last time it was an old FWD trans). Any
> comments or
> > suggestions?
> >
> > Matt McKeon
> > 95 ZJ
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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>
36679 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 3:07pm
Subject: Re: Re: Darner Discount
Yes. They also have gear oil eliminator...for trannys and diffs.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
To: "'DougB'" <azjeep@h...>; "'AzVJC'" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 3:36 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Darner Discount
> Is that anything like break oil that keeps your breaks from squeekin'?
> Joey K
> 93YJ
> www.desertjeep.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
> > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 3:21 PM
> > To: AzVJC
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Darner Discount
> >
> >
> > I got a great deal there on muffler bearings. They are a hard
> > to find item, but apparently they keep them in stock.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <dirtdog@u...>
> > > To: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 9:04 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Darner Discount
> > >
> > >
> > > > WOW! premium blinker fluid, you TJ guys get all the good stuff.
> > > > Thanks for the effort on the discount. Bernie
> > > >
> > > > DougB wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > What went into your vehicle...ie D44, AM/FM radio,
> > premium blinker
> > > fluid,
> > > > > etc...
> > > > >
> > > > > Doug
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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> >
>
36680 From: <fls82@a...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 10:11am
Subject: Re: RE: RE: Compression ratio?????
Compression Ratios are normally specified as 8.5 to 1 or 8.5:1 or 8.5/1.
It is the difference between the volume of your cylinder at the bottom of it's stroke vs. what it is at the top.
Or ... How long was it since you ate that Bean and Cheese Burrito?
Now, if you know the density of air at sea level multiply that times the compression ratio ... that should give you a ball park SWAG as what the compression tester "should read"... Usually measured as PSI (Pounds per Square Inch) with or w/o a
"G" for Gauge...
SWAG = Scientific Wild *** Guess
Most engines have anywhere from "about" 125 psi or greater for the new high revving motors!
What you need to watch out for is, a VARIATION greater than about 15 psi on any one cylinder...
Could mean, but NOT always:
Bad Rings
Bad Valves
Blown Head Gasket
Cracked Head
Cracked Block
There is a right way and a wrong way to do a Compression Test ... and ways to check for the indicators above.
If you would like more info you can Email me off list.
Best of Luck,
Jim B.
Flag., AZ
36681 From: Gary <gselvy3@h...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 3:47pm
Subject:
I have just joined this group. Could you please tell me how to change the e-mail situation. I didn't realize I would be getting 50 e-mails per day. I wouod like a summary of what is happening but I don't have time to read all thats coming in now.
Thanks for your help. Gary
36682 From: jazsam22 <jazsam22@y...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 4:13pm
Subject: NO SHOW @ WHITE TANKS
only two trucks from the club showed up and two freinds with there
trucks what a disapointment oh well S.A
36683 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 4:34pm
Subject: RE:
Welcome Gary,
Check out the link below and scroll down to Message Delivery there you will be able to choose the Daily digest option. You will then get one email with a group of messages within.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/az_vjc/join
Also checked out www.azvjc.org if you haven't yet.
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary [mailto:gselvy3@home.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 4:48 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc]
I have just joined this group. Could you please tell me how to change the e-mail situation. I didn't realize I would be getting 50 e-mails per day. I wouod like a summary of what is happening but I don't have time to read all thats coming in now.
Thanks for your help. Gary
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36684 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 4:59pm
Subject: RE: Re: Table Mesa Area Trash
I just got back from Chivo Falls and I did Charalou Gap a while back.
Both of these trails are very well maintained. Several rogue bypasses
were bob wired off and posted with restoration project signs. I also
noted that on the way in there were several areas that shooters
practice. Those seemed to be left as such.
If I was to suggest a solution for the table mesa area it would be to
leave some of the spots alone for the shooters BUT put a sign 3/4" thick
steel (simular to the one at Highway To Hell) cemented in telling them
to keep in clean or loose it. And some of the other spots, including
wildcat trails, bob wired off and marked as restoration project. NO I do
not mean put miles of bob wire on both sides of the trail just a good
length that would halt access to troubled spots.
Just my view point.
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 4:05 PM
> To: 'weasel_ugs'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; Stu Olson
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Table Mesa Area Trash
>
>
> Another point...it'd just get filled up by those that might
> otherwise would be inclined to pack out their stuff.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
> To: "'weasel_ugs'" <weaselugs@h...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 3:24 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Table Mesa Area Trash
>
>
> > Not so much the question of who would empty it (it is emptied by the
> company
> > it is rented from)...but more like who would pay for it?
> >
> > Stu Olson
> > www.stu-offroad.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: weasel_ugs [mailto:weaselugs@h...]
> > Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 1:29 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Table Mesa Area Trash
> >
> >
> > My friends and I shoot up there and ride quads,we always
> haul out what
> > we bring and try to collect a little more.A sign would do
> nothing to
> > help,except something for them to shoot at.A dumpster might help so
> > people wouldnt have to bring their stuff all the way
> > back to discard,but who would empty it? Don
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., SKYDIVEMAT@a... wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Has anyone looked in to the possibility of get a
> permanent dumpster
> > for the
> > > air down spot? Also, looked into anything we can do about all the
> > trash left
> > > behind by some of the target shooters? Is there any way of
> > educating these
> > > people not to ruin the natural beauty of the AZ desert (not there
> > anymore).
> > > I have this vision of these people loading up there vehicle with
> > what ever
> > > they are going to shoot at in the morning, heading out, and have
> > the full
> > > intention of leaving it behind. Maybe posting a sign asking them
> > to remove
> > > what they bring in. Every time I make a run up there I take
> > something off
> > > the trail with me (last time it was an old FWD trans). Any
> > comments or
> > > suggestions?
> > >
> > > Matt McKeon
> > > 95 ZJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
36685 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 5:03pm
Subject: RE:
Gary,
Go log in at yahoogroups.com and pick a different choice as to how you want to get your information.
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary [mailto:gselvy3@home.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 4:48 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc]
I have just joined this group. Could you please tell me how to change the e-mail situation. I didn't realize I would be getting 50 e-mails per day. I wouod like a summary of what is happening but I don't have time to read all thats coming in now.
Thanks for your help. Gary
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
36686 From: RICK BEER <RIKNAZ@M...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 4:57pm
Subject: MORE TIRES FOR SALE
36-16.5-16.5 BRAND NEW MICKEY THOMPSON FUN COUNTRY for those f-250-350 trucks also older burbans
THANKS RICK BEER
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36687 From: sun666_98 <brent_lizakowski@h...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 5:42pm
Subject: Re: JKS Diconnects making them the right height.
To lube them, you just need a grease gun and your favorite grease (I
use Mobil 1 synthetic).
Put the nozzle of the grease gun over the grease zerk (under the red
cap) and pump in the grease until you start to see it ooze out the
sides of the spherical balls in each joint. Repeat at every oil
change to keep it "fresh"
Brent
--- In az_vjc@y..., "stallonedev" <stallonedev@y...> wrote:
> Hey can anybody tell me how I can make sure that after I make my
JKS
> Disconnets the right height, how do I get the screw to stay
> tightend. I tried tighting the screw with a wrench however it
> tightens and then if I put a little pressure to loosen it it comes
> undon quickly. I just want to know if thats the way its supposed
to
> go, because I dont' want it to loosen up on me when I go on a trail
> run. Its the screw to adjust the height on disco, the middle one.
> Also how do I lube them up. Thanks Anthony
36688 From: Chatfield, Mike <Mike@A...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 5:44pm
Subject: OT: 9-11
Well worth the wait to download....
http://www.politicsandprotest.org/
36689 From: neder13 <Mike@A...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 6:01pm
Subject: Re: Mike... PLEASE disable attachments for the AZVJC
Joe,
I would, unfortunately when we disable the e-mail attachments, e-mail
from the AzVJC website are returned as undeliverable -- even though
there are no attachments. I am working to resolve this issue, as
soon as I get it resolved, I will disable attachments.
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...> wrote:
> Mike,
>
> Would it be possible for you to disable the ability of anyone to
attach
> files to their emails? I believe that this is a feature you can
disable or
> enable on yahoogroups.
>
> I am getting SO MANY virus files at my work account that I will
have to
> unsubscribe from my work account if the virus problem doesn't stop
soon. I
> belong to six other yahoo groups and NONE of them have attachments
enabled
> and of course; I don't get any virus attachments.
>
> Please... PLEASE... disable attachments if you have not already
done so. I
> believe that the time has come to stop this nonsense; people
apparently
> cannot understand what it means NOT to open attachments. It is
absolutely
> not necessary to have attachments enabled. You may have already
disabled
> this feature... if so... THANK YOU!!!
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe West
36690 From: neder13 <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 6:14pm
Subject: Re: burned truck at Lower Term
I was out there today and two Yavapi County Sheriff Deputies were
there looking for it. They took the vin and plate to verify and then
notify the insurance company to have it removed. As long as the
insurance co does what it is supposed to, we won't have to be
involved in its removal.
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Bill Mish" <yldkat55@h...> wrote:
> Anyone have info on this or plans to remove it?
> If not, looks like I may go back into action :)
> Bill Mish
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
36691 From: Mike & Karen Acuna <macunasprint@e...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 6:56pm
Subject: Re: OT: 9-11
Thanks, that was awesome.
Mike
"Chatfield, Mike" wrote:
Well worth the wait to download....http://www.politicsandprotest.org/
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36692 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 7:14pm
Subject: [FS] 10 wranglers for sale all under $5,000
Price: $4900
Contact: Ron Enyart 480-695-4949
Most of my jeeps can be seen at www.tufftoys.info
36693 From: g_rob_williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 7:28pm
Subject: Re: tires - suspension
If you are going spacer lift dont get more then the 2" or 1 3/4" you
can also add a 1" body lift to it to squeese a little more rubber
under your jeep. With the right wheel you can get up to 33" tires
under that combo, so when you go to the RE lift you wont look like
you have donuts under it, and you wont have to worry about getting
another set of tires just after you bought new ones. You can get the
spacer lift from 4wheelers in phx off washington. When you do the RE
lift just take off the spacers, and leave the body lift on for that
1" extra!! -Rob
36694 From: Keith Auble - alloffroad.com <crusarius@a...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 7:58pm
Subject: RE: Table Mesa Area Trash
there is one way we can all help january 19th the asa4wdc is hosting a cleanup that will at elast clean it up once again for how long nobody knows but unfortunately I am sure if they make that a no shooting area it will also be closed to ohc use also
----------------------------------------------
Keith Auble - Editor / Photographer
www.alloffroad.com - www.imagination-photo.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: SKYDIVEMAT@aol.com [mailto:SKYDIVEMAT@aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 9:44 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Table Mesa Area Trash
Hello,
Has anyone looked in to the possibility of get a permanent dumpster for the air down spot? Also, looked into anything we can do about all the trash left behind by some of the target shooters? Is there any way of educating these people not to ruin the natural beauty of the AZ desert (not there anymore). I have this vision of these people loading up there vehicle with what ever they are going to shoot at in the morning, heading out, and have the full intention of leaving it behind. Maybe posting a sign asking them to remove what they bring in. Every time I make a run up there I take something off the trail with me (last time it was an old FWD trans). Any comments or suggestions?
Matt McKeon
95 ZJ
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36695 From: bermboy2000 <bermboy@h...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 8:02pm
Subject: OR Fab Tire carrier
What is up with this? http://www.o-rfab.com/tirecarrier.htm the price
says $495 I went wheeling this weekend with two guys that had them,
and both said it was about 250. Did they double the price or what??
Thanks,
Scott "Iron" Maiden
36696 From: jeepindog <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 8:32pm
Subject: Re: OR Fab Tire carrier
Well, if you can organize a group buy with them, and at a GREAT
price like you heard, count me in!!! I wouldn't count on $250,
though. Their tire carriers are built well, and they're getting more
and more rave reviews on the 'net every day. Like I said, though, if
you can fanagle a deal, I'm in.
Lachlan
In az_vjc@y..., "bermboy2000" <bermboy@h...> wrote:
> What is up with this? http://www.o-rfab.com/tirecarrier.htm the
price
> says $495 I went wheeling this weekend with two guys that had them,
> and both said it was about 250. Did they double the price or what??
> Thanks,
> Scott "Iron" Maiden
36697 From: lynch <lynch@v...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 9:02pm
Subject: OT Import RTI
A good use for low slung imports. Got this from a friend, but I'm sure
it's making the circles through the online offroad community already. :)
http://snoopy.net/~lynch/rti/
-lynch
36698 From: bermboy2000 <bermboy@h...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 8:59pm
Subject: Re: OT Import RTI
DANG That Hummer sure can flex!! LOL
--- In az_vjc@y..., lynch <lynch@v...> wrote:
> A good use for low slung imports. Got this from a friend, but I'm
sure
> it's making the circles through the online offroad community
already. :)
>
> http://snoopy.net/~lynch/rti/
>
> -lynch
36699 From: mt_b <mt_b@y...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 9:08pm
Subject: Re: OR Fab Tire carrier
The bumpers run *around* $200-25, so possibly they were saying they
got the tire carrier for $250 (since you don't have to buy them
together)?....
--- In az_vjc@y..., "jeepindog" <jeepindog@y...> wrote:
> Well, if you can organize a group buy with them, and at a
GREAT
> price like you heard, count me in!!! I wouldn't count on $250,
> though. Their tire carriers are built well, and they're getting
more
> and more rave reviews on the 'net every day. Like I said, though,
if
> you can fanagle a deal, I'm in.
>
> Lachlan
>
>
> In az_vjc@y..., "bermboy2000" <bermboy@h...> wrote:
> > What is up with this? http://www.o-rfab.com/tirecarrier.htm the
> price
> > says $495 I went wheeling this weekend with two guys that had
them,
> > and both said it was about 250. Did they double the price or
what??
> > Thanks,
> > Scott "Iron" Maiden
36700 From: psujeep <knoble@h...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 9:56pm
Subject: How to tell if you have a locker?
I had a powertrak's no-slip locker put in my CJ about 6 months ago.
The problem is the last two shops Ive taken it to say "You should get
a locker in the rear". I tell them I do and dont seem to believe
me. How do you tell if you have one without opening the cover.
Thanks
Keith
36676 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 2:36pm
Subject: RE: Re: Darner Discount
Is that anything like break oil that keeps your breaks from squeekin'?
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 3:21 PM
> To: AzVJC
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Darner Discount
>
>
> I got a great deal there on muffler bearings. They are a hard
> to find item, but apparently they keep them in stock.
>
> Doug
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <dirtdog@u...>
> > To: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 9:04 AM
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Darner Discount
> >
> >
> > > WOW! premium blinker fluid, you TJ guys get all the good stuff.
> > > Thanks for the effort on the discount. Bernie
> > >
> > > DougB wrote:
> > >
> > > > What went into your vehicle...ie D44, AM/FM radio,
> premium blinker
> > fluid,
> > > > etc...
> > > >
> > > > Doug
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
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36677 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 2:42pm
Subject: RE: Need suggestions for easy scenic newbie trails
This is a very scenic one. And I believe it is FR 41. The water should
be down so crossing won't be a problem.
Joey K
> -----Original Message-----
> From: linda luik [mailto:minihummer@w...]
> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 9:51 AM
> To: jeeperaz
> Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Need suggestions for easy scenic newbie trails
>
>
> The FR between Table Mesa and Seven Springs north of Cave
> Creek is a easy scenice trail with a couple of small
> obstacles (a short rock ledge, maybe some minor water
> crossing, a long somewhat steep hill).
>
> Linda
>
> jeeperaz wrote:
> >
> > Quite a few people at my work have recently purchased Jeeps
> and I want
> > to show them what kind of world is now open to them. They are all
> > interested in going out on a trail run but they are extremely
> > inexperienced and maybe a little timid... I doubt they know how to
> > shift their vehicles into 4wd.
> >
> > I need suggestions on scenic, easy trails north or west of
> Phoenix so
> > I can scout a few out before I lead them. Something of a 4
> or 5 hour
> > duration would be good.
> >
> > For comparisons sake, FR42 would be way too intimidating for these
> > people. Crown King might be a little much as well.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Larry
> >
> >
> >
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36678 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 3:05pm
Subject: Re: Re: Table Mesa Area Trash
Another point...it'd just get filled up by those that might otherwise would
be inclined to pack out their stuff.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
To: "'weasel_ugs'" <weaselugs@h...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 3:24 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Table Mesa Area Trash
> Not so much the question of who would empty it (it is emptied by the
company
> it is rented from)...but more like who would pay for it?
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: weasel_ugs [mailto:weaselugs@h...]
> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 1:29 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Table Mesa Area Trash
>
>
> My friends and I shoot up there and ride quads,we always haul out
> what we bring and try to collect a little more.A sign would do
> nothing to help,except something for them to shoot at.A dumpster
> might help so people wouldnt have to bring their stuff all the way
> back to discard,but who would empty it? Don
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., SKYDIVEMAT@a... wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Has anyone looked in to the possibility of get a permanent dumpster
> for the
> > air down spot? Also, looked into anything we can do about all the
> trash left
> > behind by some of the target shooters? Is there any way of
> educating these
> > people not to ruin the natural beauty of the AZ desert (not there
> anymore).
> > I have this vision of these people loading up there vehicle with
> what ever
> > they are going to shoot at in the morning, heading out, and have
> the full
> > intention of leaving it behind. Maybe posting a sign asking them
> to remove
> > what they bring in. Every time I make a run up there I take
> something off
> > the trail with me (last time it was an old FWD trans). Any
> comments or
> > suggestions?
> >
> > Matt McKeon
> > 95 ZJ
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
36679 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 3:07pm
Subject: Re: Re: Darner Discount
Yes. They also have gear oil eliminator...for trannys and diffs.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
To: "'DougB'" <azjeep@h...>; "'AzVJC'" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 3:36 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Darner Discount
> Is that anything like break oil that keeps your breaks from squeekin'?
> Joey K
> 93YJ
> www.desertjeep.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
> > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 3:21 PM
> > To: AzVJC
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Darner Discount
> >
> >
> > I got a great deal there on muffler bearings. They are a hard
> > to find item, but apparently they keep them in stock.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <dirtdog@u...>
> > > To: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 9:04 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Darner Discount
> > >
> > >
> > > > WOW! premium blinker fluid, you TJ guys get all the good stuff.
> > > > Thanks for the effort on the discount. Bernie
> > > >
> > > > DougB wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > What went into your vehicle...ie D44, AM/FM radio,
> > premium blinker
> > > fluid,
> > > > > etc...
> > > > >
> > > > > Doug
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
36680 From: <fls82@a...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 10:11am
Subject: Re: RE: RE: Compression ratio?????
Compression Ratios are normally specified as 8.5 to 1 or 8.5:1 or 8.5/1.
It is the difference between the volume of your cylinder at the bottom of it's stroke vs. what it is at the top.
Or ... How long was it since you ate that Bean and Cheese Burrito?
Now, if you know the density of air at sea level multiply that times the compression ratio ... that should give you a ball park SWAG as what the compression tester "should read"... Usually measured as PSI (Pounds per Square Inch) with or w/o a
"G" for Gauge...
SWAG = Scientific Wild *** Guess
Most engines have anywhere from "about" 125 psi or greater for the new high revving motors!
What you need to watch out for is, a VARIATION greater than about 15 psi on any one cylinder...
Could mean, but NOT always:
Bad Rings
Bad Valves
Blown Head Gasket
Cracked Head
Cracked Block
There is a right way and a wrong way to do a Compression Test ... and ways to check for the indicators above.
If you would like more info you can Email me off list.
Best of Luck,
Jim B.
Flag., AZ
36681 From: Gary <gselvy3@h...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 3:47pm
Subject:
I have just joined this group. Could you please tell me how to change the e-mail situation. I didn't realize I would be getting 50 e-mails per day. I wouod like a summary of what is happening but I don't have time to read all thats coming in now.
Thanks for your help. Gary
36682 From: jazsam22 <jazsam22@y...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 4:13pm
Subject: NO SHOW @ WHITE TANKS
only two trucks from the club showed up and two freinds with there
trucks what a disapointment oh well S.A
36683 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 4:34pm
Subject: RE:
Welcome Gary,
Check out the link below and scroll down to Message Delivery there you will be able to choose the Daily digest option. You will then get one email with a group of messages within.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/az_vjc/join
Also checked out www.azvjc.org if you haven't yet.
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary [mailto:gselvy3@home.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 4:48 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc]
I have just joined this group. Could you please tell me how to change the e-mail situation. I didn't realize I would be getting 50 e-mails per day. I wouod like a summary of what is happening but I don't have time to read all thats coming in now.
Thanks for your help. Gary
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36684 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 4:59pm
Subject: RE: Re: Table Mesa Area Trash
I just got back from Chivo Falls and I did Charalou Gap a while back.
Both of these trails are very well maintained. Several rogue bypasses
were bob wired off and posted with restoration project signs. I also
noted that on the way in there were several areas that shooters
practice. Those seemed to be left as such.
If I was to suggest a solution for the table mesa area it would be to
leave some of the spots alone for the shooters BUT put a sign 3/4" thick
steel (simular to the one at Highway To Hell) cemented in telling them
to keep in clean or loose it. And some of the other spots, including
wildcat trails, bob wired off and marked as restoration project. NO I do
not mean put miles of bob wire on both sides of the trail just a good
length that would halt access to troubled spots.
Just my view point.
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 4:05 PM
> To: 'weasel_ugs'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; Stu Olson
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Table Mesa Area Trash
>
>
> Another point...it'd just get filled up by those that might
> otherwise would be inclined to pack out their stuff.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
> To: "'weasel_ugs'" <weaselugs@h...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 3:24 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Table Mesa Area Trash
>
>
> > Not so much the question of who would empty it (it is emptied by the
> company
> > it is rented from)...but more like who would pay for it?
> >
> > Stu Olson
> > www.stu-offroad.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: weasel_ugs [mailto:weaselugs@h...]
> > Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 1:29 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Table Mesa Area Trash
> >
> >
> > My friends and I shoot up there and ride quads,we always
> haul out what
> > we bring and try to collect a little more.A sign would do
> nothing to
> > help,except something for them to shoot at.A dumpster might help so
> > people wouldnt have to bring their stuff all the way
> > back to discard,but who would empty it? Don
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., SKYDIVEMAT@a... wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Has anyone looked in to the possibility of get a
> permanent dumpster
> > for the
> > > air down spot? Also, looked into anything we can do about all the
> > trash left
> > > behind by some of the target shooters? Is there any way of
> > educating these
> > > people not to ruin the natural beauty of the AZ desert (not there
> > anymore).
> > > I have this vision of these people loading up there vehicle with
> > what ever
> > > they are going to shoot at in the morning, heading out, and have
> > the full
> > > intention of leaving it behind. Maybe posting a sign asking them
> > to remove
> > > what they bring in. Every time I make a run up there I take
> > something off
> > > the trail with me (last time it was an old FWD trans). Any
> > comments or
> > > suggestions?
> > >
> > > Matt McKeon
> > > 95 ZJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
36685 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 5:03pm
Subject: RE:
Gary,
Go log in at yahoogroups.com and pick a different choice as to how you want to get your information.
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary [mailto:gselvy3@home.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 4:48 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc]
I have just joined this group. Could you please tell me how to change the e-mail situation. I didn't realize I would be getting 50 e-mails per day. I wouod like a summary of what is happening but I don't have time to read all thats coming in now.
Thanks for your help. Gary
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36686 From: RICK BEER <RIKNAZ@M...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 4:57pm
Subject: MORE TIRES FOR SALE
36-16.5-16.5 BRAND NEW MICKEY THOMPSON FUN COUNTRY for those f-250-350 trucks also older burbans
THANKS RICK BEER
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36687 From: sun666_98 <brent_lizakowski@h...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 5:42pm
Subject: Re: JKS Diconnects making them the right height.
To lube them, you just need a grease gun and your favorite grease (I
use Mobil 1 synthetic).
Put the nozzle of the grease gun over the grease zerk (under the red
cap) and pump in the grease until you start to see it ooze out the
sides of the spherical balls in each joint. Repeat at every oil
change to keep it "fresh"
Brent
--- In az_vjc@y..., "stallonedev" <stallonedev@y...> wrote:
> Hey can anybody tell me how I can make sure that after I make my
JKS
> Disconnets the right height, how do I get the screw to stay
> tightend. I tried tighting the screw with a wrench however it
> tightens and then if I put a little pressure to loosen it it comes
> undon quickly. I just want to know if thats the way its supposed
to
> go, because I dont' want it to loosen up on me when I go on a trail
> run. Its the screw to adjust the height on disco, the middle one.
> Also how do I lube them up. Thanks Anthony
36688 From: Chatfield, Mike <Mike@A...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 5:44pm
Subject: OT: 9-11
Well worth the wait to download....
http://www.politicsandprotest.org/
36689 From: neder13 <Mike@A...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 6:01pm
Subject: Re: Mike... PLEASE disable attachments for the AZVJC
Joe,
I would, unfortunately when we disable the e-mail attachments, e-mail
from the AzVJC website are returned as undeliverable -- even though
there are no attachments. I am working to resolve this issue, as
soon as I get it resolved, I will disable attachments.
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...> wrote:
> Mike,
>
> Would it be possible for you to disable the ability of anyone to
attach
> files to their emails? I believe that this is a feature you can
disable or
> enable on yahoogroups.
>
> I am getting SO MANY virus files at my work account that I will
have to
> unsubscribe from my work account if the virus problem doesn't stop
soon. I
> belong to six other yahoo groups and NONE of them have attachments
enabled
> and of course; I don't get any virus attachments.
>
> Please... PLEASE... disable attachments if you have not already
done so. I
> believe that the time has come to stop this nonsense; people
apparently
> cannot understand what it means NOT to open attachments. It is
absolutely
> not necessary to have attachments enabled. You may have already
disabled
> this feature... if so... THANK YOU!!!
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe West
36690 From: neder13 <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 6:14pm
Subject: Re: burned truck at Lower Term
I was out there today and two Yavapi County Sheriff Deputies were
there looking for it. They took the vin and plate to verify and then
notify the insurance company to have it removed. As long as the
insurance co does what it is supposed to, we won't have to be
involved in its removal.
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Bill Mish" <yldkat55@h...> wrote:
> Anyone have info on this or plans to remove it?
> If not, looks like I may go back into action :)
> Bill Mish
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
36691 From: Mike & Karen Acuna <macunasprint@e...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 6:56pm
Subject: Re: OT: 9-11
Thanks, that was awesome.
Mike
"Chatfield, Mike" wrote:
Well worth the wait to download....http://www.politicsandprotest.org/
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36692 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 7:14pm
Subject: [FS] 10 wranglers for sale all under $5,000
Price: $4900
Contact: Ron Enyart 480-695-4949
Most of my jeeps can be seen at www.tufftoys.info
36693 From: g_rob_williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 7:28pm
Subject: Re: tires - suspension
If you are going spacer lift dont get more then the 2" or 1 3/4" you
can also add a 1" body lift to it to squeese a little more rubber
under your jeep. With the right wheel you can get up to 33" tires
under that combo, so when you go to the RE lift you wont look like
you have donuts under it, and you wont have to worry about getting
another set of tires just after you bought new ones. You can get the
spacer lift from 4wheelers in phx off washington. When you do the RE
lift just take off the spacers, and leave the body lift on for that
1" extra!! -Rob
36694 From: Keith Auble - alloffroad.com <crusarius@a...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 7:58pm
Subject: RE: Table Mesa Area Trash
there is one way we can all help january 19th the asa4wdc is hosting a cleanup that will at elast clean it up once again for how long nobody knows but unfortunately I am sure if they make that a no shooting area it will also be closed to ohc use also
----------------------------------------------
Keith Auble - Editor / Photographer
www.alloffroad.com - www.imagination-photo.com
----------------------------------------------
-----Original Message-----
From: SKYDIVEMAT@aol.com [mailto:SKYDIVEMAT@aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 9:44 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Table Mesa Area Trash
Hello,
Has anyone looked in to the possibility of get a permanent dumpster for the air down spot? Also, looked into anything we can do about all the trash left behind by some of the target shooters? Is there any way of educating these people not to ruin the natural beauty of the AZ desert (not there anymore). I have this vision of these people loading up there vehicle with what ever they are going to shoot at in the morning, heading out, and have the full intention of leaving it behind. Maybe posting a sign asking them to remove what they bring in. Every time I make a run up there I take something off the trail with me (last time it was an old FWD trans). Any comments or suggestions?
Matt McKeon
95 ZJ
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36695 From: bermboy2000 <bermboy@h...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 8:02pm
Subject: OR Fab Tire carrier
What is up with this? http://www.o-rfab.com/tirecarrier.htm the price
says $495 I went wheeling this weekend with two guys that had them,
and both said it was about 250. Did they double the price or what??
Thanks,
Scott "Iron" Maiden
36696 From: jeepindog <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 8:32pm
Subject: Re: OR Fab Tire carrier
Well, if you can organize a group buy with them, and at a GREAT
price like you heard, count me in!!! I wouldn't count on $250,
though. Their tire carriers are built well, and they're getting more
and more rave reviews on the 'net every day. Like I said, though, if
you can fanagle a deal, I'm in.
Lachlan
In az_vjc@y..., "bermboy2000" <bermboy@h...> wrote:
> What is up with this? http://www.o-rfab.com/tirecarrier.htm the
price
> says $495 I went wheeling this weekend with two guys that had them,
> and both said it was about 250. Did they double the price or what??
> Thanks,
> Scott "Iron" Maiden
36697 From: lynch <lynch@v...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 9:02pm
Subject: OT Import RTI
A good use for low slung imports. Got this from a friend, but I'm sure
it's making the circles through the online offroad community already. :)
http://snoopy.net/~lynch/rti/
-lynch
36698 From: bermboy2000 <bermboy@h...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 8:59pm
Subject: Re: OT Import RTI
DANG That Hummer sure can flex!! LOL
--- In az_vjc@y..., lynch <lynch@v...> wrote:
> A good use for low slung imports. Got this from a friend, but I'm
sure
> it's making the circles through the online offroad community
already. :)
>
> http://snoopy.net/~lynch/rti/
>
> -lynch
36699 From: mt_b <mt_b@y...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 9:08pm
Subject: Re: OR Fab Tire carrier
The bumpers run *around* $200-25, so possibly they were saying they
got the tire carrier for $250 (since you don't have to buy them
together)?....
--- In az_vjc@y..., "jeepindog" <jeepindog@y...> wrote:
> Well, if you can organize a group buy with them, and at a
GREAT
> price like you heard, count me in!!! I wouldn't count on $250,
> though. Their tire carriers are built well, and they're getting
more
> and more rave reviews on the 'net every day. Like I said, though,
if
> you can fanagle a deal, I'm in.
>
> Lachlan
>
>
> In az_vjc@y..., "bermboy2000" <bermboy@h...> wrote:
> > What is up with this? http://www.o-rfab.com/tirecarrier.htm the
> price
> > says $495 I went wheeling this weekend with two guys that had
them,
> > and both said it was about 250. Did they double the price or
what??
> > Thanks,
> > Scott "Iron" Maiden
36700 From: psujeep <knoble@h...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2001 9:56pm
Subject: How to tell if you have a locker?
I had a powertrak's no-slip locker put in my CJ about 6 months ago.
The problem is the last two shops Ive taken it to say "You should get
a locker in the rear". I tell them I do and dont seem to believe
me. How do you tell if you have one without opening the cover.
Thanks
Keith