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36328 From: <msa12171@a...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 1:58pm
Subject: Re: Mud
We in the desert are scared of mud. We don't know what it is or what
to do with it. <grin> I need to put my soft top on first, then I'll
go do some playin. I can't put it on myself, due to the CAST on my
left hand! Anyone want to come by and put it on for me?
Mike A.
"Az_A"
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe Kearney" <JoeKPhx@h...> wrote:
> I can't believe that no one has talked about any fun times in the
mud yet.
> I was thinking about going out this afternoon but I doubt it now.
I am
> still trying to think about it for tomorrow.
>
>
> Joe Kearney
> Have A Great Day
>
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36329 From: <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:02pm
Subject: Re: Mud
Whats this "Az_A" you and Chris are putting on your sig?
Mike Baney
--- In az_vjc@y..., msa12171@a... wrote:
> We in the desert are scared of mud. We don't know what it is or
what
> to do with it. <grin> I need to put my soft top on first, then I'll
> go do some playin. I can't put it on myself, due to the CAST on my
> left hand! Anyone want to come by and put it on for me?
>
> Mike A.
> "Az_A"
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe Kearney" <JoeKPhx@h...> wrote:
> > I can't believe that no one has talked about any fun times in the
> mud yet.
> > I was thinking about going out this afternoon but I doubt it
now.
> I am
> > still trying to think about it for tomorrow.
> >
> >
> > Joe Kearney
> > Have A Great Day
> >
> >
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36330 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:04pm
Subject: RE: Mud
I started 4 wheelin in the Mud in 1976 in Indiana. My third 4 wheeler was a
Chevy with 40" monster mudders and a 350 push 410hp and at the same time I
had a CJ7 with a built 304 and 35" monster mudders. I got spoil wheelin in
the mud in Indiana. There is no real mud in AZ.
-----Original Message-----
From: David R. W. Withers [mailto:dr_ww@h...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 2:34 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Mud
Just let me know and bring a tow strap
David
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Kearney [mailto:JoeKPhx@h...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 2:17 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Mud
I can't believe that no one has talked about any fun times in the mud
yet. I was thinking about going out this afternoon but I doubt it now.
I am still trying to think about it for tomorrow.
Joe Kearney
Have A Great Day
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36331 From: <sinanturel@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:15pm
Subject: Re: FREE CB
I'll take it not sure if the first post got to you.
I am in Tucson, and will not be up in the Phx area till Dec. 15
If someone doing the Chivo Falls run in Tuscon could pick it up
for me, greatly appreciate it.
Thanks alot
Sinan
11--- In az_vjc@y..., jazsam22@y... wrote:
> I have a old montgomery Wards CB that works great its big and bulky
> but it works great I used it for years when I drove big rigs
> take it easy and play hard
> Sam Acuna MUD WENCH
36332 From: <sinanturel@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:17pm
Subject: Re: Mud
10-4 on the real mud, living in Seattle for almost 20 years
Desert Mud just can not compare !
Sinan
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Siade, Randy" <randy.siade@u...> wrote:
> I started 4 wheelin in the Mud in 1976 in Indiana. My third 4
wheeler was a
> Chevy with 40" monster mudders and a 350 push 410hp and at the same
time I
> had a CJ7 with a built 304 and 35" monster mudders. I got spoil
wheelin in
> the mud in Indiana. There is no real mud in AZ.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David R. W. Withers [mailto:dr_ww@h...]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 2:34 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Mud
>
>
> Just let me know and bring a tow strap
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Kearney [mailto:JoeKPhx@h...]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 2:17 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] Mud
>
>
> I can't believe that no one has talked about any fun times in the
mud
> yet. I was thinking about going out this afternoon but I doubt it
now.
> I am still trying to think about it for tomorrow.
>
>
> Joe Kearney
> Have A Great Day
>
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36333 From: Mike Connor <mike@m...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:17pm
Subject: Re: SM420 / Dana 300...some thoughts...
Tom,
Some considerations concerning Truck 4 speeds...
If your goal is to put truck 4 speed behind an AMC engine,
the Muncie 420 is not the ideal choice for the reasons you
discovered. You must aquire a conversion bellhousing. The
420 is more suited for Chevy V6/V8/Buick V6 conversions.
For the AMC, the Ford T18 or the Ford NewProcess 435 is a
smart choice. Stay away from the Jeep T18; it only has a 4:1
first gear ratio. The Ford T18 has a 6.32:1 first, while the
435 has a 6.69:1 first. Aquire a bellhousing from a 76-79 CJ;
it has the Ford bolt pattern and the above mentioned trannys
will bolt right up. Both will require a T/C adapter.
Another consideration- of the 2 above mentioned trannys, the
435 is actually a better bet, even though the T18 is the common
"buzzword" when it comes to truck 4 speed conversions.
Some points to consider-
*The 435 has a slower first gear; 6.69 as opposed to the T18's
6.32
*(Just as important) The 435 has a slower 2nd gear (the one you
spend a lot more time in than first gear) 3.34 as opposed to the
T18's 3.09...most stock Jeep trannys have a 3:1 first gear (I'm
referring to the older 3 speed trannys here). Most guys put bigger
tires on their Jeeps then have to slip the clutch more to get going.
They think that going to a T18 will solve their problems. While
the T18 will give you the lower first gear, its really too slow to
use on the street. So, you start out in second, which is about the
same ratio (3:1) as your stock tranny. So, street-wise you've
gained nothing by going to the T18.
*The 435 is around an inch shorter (10.75 as opposed to the T18's
11.87 inches), which gains you an inch on your rear driveline.
Make sure you find the 2WD version of either trans with the 6.5"
input shaft.
Offroad, you can't go wrong with either one; the added control
offered by the granny gear is awesome, and is much easier on the
Jeep.:-)
The length of the T/C adapter for each tranny is roughly the same
(4 inches or so) so driveline modifications are necessary. Floorpan
mods are also hard to get awawy from.
I've done conversions with the 420, T18, 435, and SM465 and have
one of each in my shop if a visual would help...
Hope this helps,
Uncle Mike
36334 From: <jaylalib@h...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:18pm
Subject: MUD!!!
There is a great spot on Scottsdale and Grayhawk. It is on the West
side of the Road. Anyone want to go about 5pm?
Jason LaLiberty
Email me at jason.laliberty@f... or call me at 480-585-2702!
36335 From: Fred <fredtj@h...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 0:46pm
Subject: Re: Chivo Falls?
It really depends on how much you want to play around and which way you
choose to go in and come out. They're at least 3 major entrances/exists,
with different levels of difficulities
- Three Feathers - 3.5
- Compass Tank - 3.0
- Italian Trap - 4.0
You can make some parts of the trip what ever you want. You can probably
"toughen up" the Italian Trap area by not doing any of the by-passes and
going when the water is high ;)
Also, at Three Feathers itself, there are 3 paths up or down it,
depending on which way you are traveling. The Highway (center), is the
easiest, followed by the Crack, sometimes known as the Chute, and lastly
the Keyhole.
Cheers,
Fred
Roger Tomas wrote:
>About how long does it typically take to run the Chivo Falls trail?
>
>-Roger
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36336 From: <jaylalib@h...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:22pm
Subject: Re: MUD!!!
P.S. I have a tow strap!!!!!
--- In az_vjc@y..., jaylalib@h... wrote:
> There is a great spot on Scottsdale and Grayhawk. It is on the West
> side of the Road. Anyone want to go about 5pm?
>
> Jason LaLiberty
>
> Email me at jason.laliberty@f... or call me at 480-585-2702!
36337 From: <paparoach@q...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:23pm
Subject: Re: [FS] group buy on AA np231 short shaft kit (SYE)
Does anyone know whether a 2000 TJ would need the vacuum type SYE or
the non-vacuum style? Getting ready to place my order for the AA SYE
and I am unsure which I need.
Les
36338 From: Laliberty, Jason (SCP) <jason.laliberty@f...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:26pm
Subject: Mud In AZ
Here is the spot....
Jason LaLiberty <>
Attachment: (image/jpeg) mud1.JPG [not stored]
36339 From: Jason B <the_anubis@h...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:33pm
Subject: Re: Re: MUD!!!
I get off at 5 would love to go, i'll call ya!
Jason B
92 YJ
From: jaylalib@h...
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: MUD!!!
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 22:22:11 -0000
P.S. I have a tow strap!!!!!
--- In az_vjc@y..., jaylalib@h... wrote:
> There is a great spot on Scottsdale and Grayhawk. It is on the West
> side of the Road. Anyone want to go about 5pm?
>
> Jason LaLiberty
>
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36340 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:38pm
Subject: RE: Mud In AZ
Ha!! thats not real mud. When I get change I will scan some pics. of Indiana mud. Real mud has no bottom and the longer you truck sits in it the deeper it sinks. I got a pic. of one my trucks that had 36" tires on it, I was stuck so deep I had to roll my windows down to get out of my truck. The next day I could have gone fishing with the worms that I found in the mud on my hood.
-----Original Message-----
From: Laliberty, Jason (SCP) [mailto:jason.laliberty@fairmont.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 3:27 PM
To: 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [az_vjc] Mud In AZ
Here is the spot....
Jason LaLiberty <>
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36341 From: Laliberty, Jason (SCP) <jason.laliberty@f...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:40pm
Subject: RE: Mud In AZ
Hey you have to take what you can get out here! hahahaha
-----Original Message-----
From: Siade, Randy [mailto:randy.siade@unisys.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 3:39 PM
To: 'Laliberty, Jason (SCP)'; 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Mud In AZ
Ha!! thats not real mud. When I get change I will scan some pics. of Indiana mud. Real mud has no bottom and the longer you truck sits in it the deeper it sinks. I got a pic. of one my trucks that had 36" tires on it, I was stuck so deep I had to roll my windows down to get out of my truck. The next day I could have gone fishing with the worms that I found in the mud on my hood.
-----Original Message-----
From: Laliberty, Jason (SCP) [mailto:jason.laliberty@fairmont.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 3:27 PM
To: 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [az_vjc] Mud In AZ
Here is the spot....
Jason LaLiberty <>
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36342 From: <Mike@A...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:51pm
Subject: Re: Mud In AZ
Hmm, I remember mud like that in Panama (where it rains litterally
every day from Feb 15 to Dec 15; 60 to 120 inches every year) I
remember someone sinking a Hummer up to it's door handles in mud on
the Drop Zone. We parked a loader on the "hard pack" to hook up the
chains to the stuck hummer, by the time we got the chains on and
turned around the loader was up to its axles in it.
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Siade, Randy" <randy.siade@u...> wrote:
> Ha!! thats not real mud. When I get change I will scan some pics.
of
> Indiana mud. Real mud has no bottom and the longer you truck sits
in it the
> deeper it sinks.
36343 From: lynch <lynch@v...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:54pm
Subject: Re: Mud
Heh, I just took my 2 older girls slinging through some mud on the way home
from school. The 'splashy puddles' were a big hit! The BFG M/T's self-clean a
heck of a lot better then the old badyears I used to run.
-lynch
On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 02:17:25PM -0700, Joe Kearney wrote:
> I can't believe that no one has talked about any fun times in the mud yet.
> I was thinking about going out this afternoon but I doubt it now. I am
> still trying to think about it for tomorrow.
>
>
> Joe Kearney
> Have A Great Day
>
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36344 From: JoeKPhx <JoeKPhx@h...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:59pm
Subject: RE: Re: MUD!!!
I grew up in NJ and that is where I purchased my first CJ& and they have
some mud there in the pine lands.
Lots of it.
GOD BLESS AMERICA
Joe Kearney
Pager 877-655-4991
Have a good day
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason B [mailto:the_anubis@h...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 3:34 PM
To: jaylalib@h...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: MUD!!!
I get off at 5 would love to go, i'll call ya!
Jason B
92 YJ
From: jaylalib@h...
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: MUD!!!
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 22:22:11 -0000
P.S. I have a tow strap!!!!!
--- In az_vjc@y..., jaylalib@h... wrote:
> There is a great spot on Scottsdale and Grayhawk. It is on the West
> side of the Road. Anyone want to go about 5pm?
>
> Jason LaLiberty
>
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36345 From: Mike & Karen Acuna <macunasprint@e...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 3:35pm
Subject: cb radio problems
I just wanted to thank Stu for checking my swr adjustment. He did let
me know that the radio was putting out plenty of power, but the antenna
sucks. It was the through the glass model and would not adjust at all.
Radio shack gave me my money back and now I'm trying to decide what type
of antenna set up I'm going to use. Any suggestions would be
appreciated. 98ZJ
Thanks, Mike
36346 From: Nick <nnote@a...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 3:43pm
Subject: Place to mud
For mud ya'll need to go to Elliot and Dobson, behind the mobil. Let me know!
Nick
36347 From: <squarelights@h...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 3:43pm
Subject: Does anyone have a trailer I can borrow
Hello I am in need of a trailer that can haul some sand, and some
junk to the dump. I will pay you for letting me borrow it. any size,
thanks
nick l.
36348 From: Brent Lizakowski <brent_lizakowski@h...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 3:56pm
Subject: Re: cb radio problems
Stu didn't give any advice on a new antenna???
I'm running a 4' Firestick II. They're fairly easy to come by (check
your local truck stop or visit Fry's Electronics) I think they have
them as well... Or if you prefer to shop at home, I got mine at
http://www.valcoelectronics.com you can read about them at
http://www.firestik.com). Mine seems to work fine. It's tuneable, and
inexpensive (about $14). I prefer the look and function of a
fiberglass antenna to that of a wire whip. I'm sure there are
advantages and disadvantages to both. But, I couldn't tell you what
they are.
Wilson seems to be a good brand for the wire whips. Again, I can't
tell you much about them as I don't have one and have never used one
before.
I also have a quick disconnect on my antenna (like this one:
http://www.firestik.com/Catalog/K&R-1A.htm) . The antenna sticks up
rather high (mounted on my rear tire carrier) and I need to take it
off to fit in the garage. Don't get one of those springs because your
antenna will just be whipping all over the place on a trail run.
I can attest that the fiberglass antennas are pretty durable. I once
forgot to disco the antenna and drove into the garage. I thought the
thing was going to poke itself right through the garage door. The
only way for me to get it off without breaking it was to actually
bend it further than it was already bent, tie it off, and then
disconnect it.
--- In az_vjc@y..., Mike & Karen Acuna <macunasprint@e...> wrote:
> I just wanted to thank Stu for checking my swr adjustment. He did
let
> me know that the radio was putting out plenty of power, but the
antenna
> sucks. It was the through the glass model and would not adjust at
all.
> Radio shack gave me my money back and now I'm trying to decide what
type
> of antenna set up I'm going to use. Any suggestions would be
> appreciated. 98ZJ
> Thanks, Mike
36349 From: Baja Fleg <fleigle@h...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 3:57pm
Subject: Re: cb radio problems
A firestick antenna I've been told is the best. Thats what I'm using and am
happy with it. Bronco One carries them and I've seen that Fry's Electronics
also but not for sure about that.
Michael
----Original Message Follows----
From: Mike & Karen Acuna <macunasprint@e...>
To: AZVJC AZVJC <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [az_vjc] cb radio problems
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 16:35:43 -0700
I just wanted to thank Stu for checking my swr adjustment. He did let
me know that the radio was putting out plenty of power, but the antenna
sucks. It was the through the glass model and would not adjust at all.
Radio shack gave me my money back and now I'm trying to decide what type
of antenna set up I'm going to use. Any suggestions would be
appreciated. 98ZJ
Thanks, Mike
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36350 From: <jaylalib@h...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:48pm
Subject: Re: MUD RUN!!!
So it looks like two of us are going so far....if you want to join
us we will be at Scottdale and just south of Grayhawk which is north
of Bell rd.
480-585-2702 after 4:45pm 480-215-3390
Jason LaLiberty
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Jason B" <the_anubis@h...> wrote:
> I get off at 5 would love to go, i'll call ya!
>
>
> Jason B
> 92 YJ
>
> From: jaylalib@h...
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: MUD!!!
> Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 22:22:11 -0000
>
> P.S. I have a tow strap!!!!!
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., jaylalib@h... wrote:
> > There is a great spot on Scottsdale and Grayhawk. It is on the
West
> > side of the Road. Anyone want to go about 5pm?
> >
> > Jason LaLiberty
> >
> > Email me at jason.laliberty@f... or call me at 480-585-2702!
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36351 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 4:13pm
Subject: [TR] Trip Report - Lake Pleasant to Crown King - Saturday, December 1, 2001
Hello All,
Joey Kulich lead a trail run Saturday, December 1, 2001 across Lake Pleasant to Crown King
Well one friend had tranny problems and the other had a prior engagement. There were three Jeeps (ZJ, TJ, YJ) that embarked on this adventure. We aired down and after a late start we headed to Crown King. What a perfect day. Temperature was in the low 70s and very few clouds in the sky. About half way we met up with a retired couple in an XJ. He showed off his GPS, Laptop and tracking software which was pretty impressive. If I understood them correctly they travel the country 4 wheelin' while taking pictures of old mines and just exploring. I can only hope I have it so well in my later days. All in all an uneventful day with great scenery and people.
OH wait there was one unusual thing that happened. I guess some guys that were ahead of us came across an elderly lady wondering her way back to CK. She was obviously not prepared for the journey. She apparently got her truck stuck about a 2 - 3 miles from the ledge and spent the night. Then in the morning she tried to walk to CK for help (all up hill). She was disoriented and starving for food and water. The gentlemen that found her, unstuck her 2WD truck and drove her truck and her to CK. Hats off to them.
Joey K
93YJ
Trip Attendees:
Joey Kulich
Kevin Kilroy
Pat Dicks
Click Here to View Pictures (if available)
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
36352 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 4:21pm
Subject: Re: Jeep Service Shops in Mesa Area
Fly-N-High, no, no, no, no....
What kind of work do you need done?
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., zonie100@y... wrote:
> Does anyone have any input on any of the service shops in the Mesa
> area. Or perhaps a good mechanic for my Jeep. I stopped by
the "Off
> Road Unlimited" and "Fly-N-Hi" shops. Any input on these from any
of
> you rock-crawlers? (New to the Valley).
> Larry D.
36328 From: <msa12171@a...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 1:58pm
Subject: Re: Mud
We in the desert are scared of mud. We don't know what it is or what
to do with it. <grin> I need to put my soft top on first, then I'll
go do some playin. I can't put it on myself, due to the CAST on my
left hand! Anyone want to come by and put it on for me?
Mike A.
"Az_A"
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe Kearney" <JoeKPhx@h...> wrote:
> I can't believe that no one has talked about any fun times in the
mud yet.
> I was thinking about going out this afternoon but I doubt it now.
I am
> still trying to think about it for tomorrow.
>
>
> Joe Kearney
> Have A Great Day
>
>
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36329 From: <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:02pm
Subject: Re: Mud
Whats this "Az_A" you and Chris are putting on your sig?
Mike Baney
--- In az_vjc@y..., msa12171@a... wrote:
> We in the desert are scared of mud. We don't know what it is or
what
> to do with it. <grin> I need to put my soft top on first, then I'll
> go do some playin. I can't put it on myself, due to the CAST on my
> left hand! Anyone want to come by and put it on for me?
>
> Mike A.
> "Az_A"
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe Kearney" <JoeKPhx@h...> wrote:
> > I can't believe that no one has talked about any fun times in the
> mud yet.
> > I was thinking about going out this afternoon but I doubt it
now.
> I am
> > still trying to think about it for tomorrow.
> >
> >
> > Joe Kearney
> > Have A Great Day
> >
> >
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36330 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:04pm
Subject: RE: Mud
I started 4 wheelin in the Mud in 1976 in Indiana. My third 4 wheeler was a
Chevy with 40" monster mudders and a 350 push 410hp and at the same time I
had a CJ7 with a built 304 and 35" monster mudders. I got spoil wheelin in
the mud in Indiana. There is no real mud in AZ.
-----Original Message-----
From: David R. W. Withers [mailto:dr_ww@h...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 2:34 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Mud
Just let me know and bring a tow strap
David
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Kearney [mailto:JoeKPhx@h...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 2:17 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Mud
I can't believe that no one has talked about any fun times in the mud
yet. I was thinking about going out this afternoon but I doubt it now.
I am still trying to think about it for tomorrow.
Joe Kearney
Have A Great Day
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36331 From: <sinanturel@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:15pm
Subject: Re: FREE CB
I'll take it not sure if the first post got to you.
I am in Tucson, and will not be up in the Phx area till Dec. 15
If someone doing the Chivo Falls run in Tuscon could pick it up
for me, greatly appreciate it.
Thanks alot
Sinan
11--- In az_vjc@y..., jazsam22@y... wrote:
> I have a old montgomery Wards CB that works great its big and bulky
> but it works great I used it for years when I drove big rigs
> take it easy and play hard
> Sam Acuna MUD WENCH
36332 From: <sinanturel@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:17pm
Subject: Re: Mud
10-4 on the real mud, living in Seattle for almost 20 years
Desert Mud just can not compare !
Sinan
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Siade, Randy" <randy.siade@u...> wrote:
> I started 4 wheelin in the Mud in 1976 in Indiana. My third 4
wheeler was a
> Chevy with 40" monster mudders and a 350 push 410hp and at the same
time I
> had a CJ7 with a built 304 and 35" monster mudders. I got spoil
wheelin in
> the mud in Indiana. There is no real mud in AZ.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David R. W. Withers [mailto:dr_ww@h...]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 2:34 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Mud
>
>
> Just let me know and bring a tow strap
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Kearney [mailto:JoeKPhx@h...]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 2:17 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] Mud
>
>
> I can't believe that no one has talked about any fun times in the
mud
> yet. I was thinking about going out this afternoon but I doubt it
now.
> I am still trying to think about it for tomorrow.
>
>
> Joe Kearney
> Have A Great Day
>
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36333 From: Mike Connor <mike@m...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:17pm
Subject: Re: SM420 / Dana 300...some thoughts...
Tom,
Some considerations concerning Truck 4 speeds...
If your goal is to put truck 4 speed behind an AMC engine,
the Muncie 420 is not the ideal choice for the reasons you
discovered. You must aquire a conversion bellhousing. The
420 is more suited for Chevy V6/V8/Buick V6 conversions.
For the AMC, the Ford T18 or the Ford NewProcess 435 is a
smart choice. Stay away from the Jeep T18; it only has a 4:1
first gear ratio. The Ford T18 has a 6.32:1 first, while the
435 has a 6.69:1 first. Aquire a bellhousing from a 76-79 CJ;
it has the Ford bolt pattern and the above mentioned trannys
will bolt right up. Both will require a T/C adapter.
Another consideration- of the 2 above mentioned trannys, the
435 is actually a better bet, even though the T18 is the common
"buzzword" when it comes to truck 4 speed conversions.
Some points to consider-
*The 435 has a slower first gear; 6.69 as opposed to the T18's
6.32
*(Just as important) The 435 has a slower 2nd gear (the one you
spend a lot more time in than first gear) 3.34 as opposed to the
T18's 3.09...most stock Jeep trannys have a 3:1 first gear (I'm
referring to the older 3 speed trannys here). Most guys put bigger
tires on their Jeeps then have to slip the clutch more to get going.
They think that going to a T18 will solve their problems. While
the T18 will give you the lower first gear, its really too slow to
use on the street. So, you start out in second, which is about the
same ratio (3:1) as your stock tranny. So, street-wise you've
gained nothing by going to the T18.
*The 435 is around an inch shorter (10.75 as opposed to the T18's
11.87 inches), which gains you an inch on your rear driveline.
Make sure you find the 2WD version of either trans with the 6.5"
input shaft.
Offroad, you can't go wrong with either one; the added control
offered by the granny gear is awesome, and is much easier on the
Jeep.:-)
The length of the T/C adapter for each tranny is roughly the same
(4 inches or so) so driveline modifications are necessary. Floorpan
mods are also hard to get awawy from.
I've done conversions with the 420, T18, 435, and SM465 and have
one of each in my shop if a visual would help...
Hope this helps,
Uncle Mike
36334 From: <jaylalib@h...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:18pm
Subject: MUD!!!
There is a great spot on Scottsdale and Grayhawk. It is on the West
side of the Road. Anyone want to go about 5pm?
Jason LaLiberty
Email me at jason.laliberty@f... or call me at 480-585-2702!
36335 From: Fred <fredtj@h...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 0:46pm
Subject: Re: Chivo Falls?
It really depends on how much you want to play around and which way you
choose to go in and come out. They're at least 3 major entrances/exists,
with different levels of difficulities
- Three Feathers - 3.5
- Compass Tank - 3.0
- Italian Trap - 4.0
You can make some parts of the trip what ever you want. You can probably
"toughen up" the Italian Trap area by not doing any of the by-passes and
going when the water is high ;)
Also, at Three Feathers itself, there are 3 paths up or down it,
depending on which way you are traveling. The Highway (center), is the
easiest, followed by the Crack, sometimes known as the Chute, and lastly
the Keyhole.
Cheers,
Fred
Roger Tomas wrote:
>About how long does it typically take to run the Chivo Falls trail?
>
>-Roger
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36336 From: <jaylalib@h...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:22pm
Subject: Re: MUD!!!
P.S. I have a tow strap!!!!!
--- In az_vjc@y..., jaylalib@h... wrote:
> There is a great spot on Scottsdale and Grayhawk. It is on the West
> side of the Road. Anyone want to go about 5pm?
>
> Jason LaLiberty
>
> Email me at jason.laliberty@f... or call me at 480-585-2702!
36337 From: <paparoach@q...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:23pm
Subject: Re: [FS] group buy on AA np231 short shaft kit (SYE)
Does anyone know whether a 2000 TJ would need the vacuum type SYE or
the non-vacuum style? Getting ready to place my order for the AA SYE
and I am unsure which I need.
Les
36338 From: Laliberty, Jason (SCP) <jason.laliberty@f...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:26pm
Subject: Mud In AZ
Here is the spot....
Jason LaLiberty <>
Attachment: (image/jpeg) mud1.JPG [not stored]
36339 From: Jason B <the_anubis@h...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:33pm
Subject: Re: Re: MUD!!!
I get off at 5 would love to go, i'll call ya!
Jason B
92 YJ
From: jaylalib@h...
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: MUD!!!
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 22:22:11 -0000
P.S. I have a tow strap!!!!!
--- In az_vjc@y..., jaylalib@h... wrote:
> There is a great spot on Scottsdale and Grayhawk. It is on the West
> side of the Road. Anyone want to go about 5pm?
>
> Jason LaLiberty
>
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36340 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:38pm
Subject: RE: Mud In AZ
Ha!! thats not real mud. When I get change I will scan some pics. of Indiana mud. Real mud has no bottom and the longer you truck sits in it the deeper it sinks. I got a pic. of one my trucks that had 36" tires on it, I was stuck so deep I had to roll my windows down to get out of my truck. The next day I could have gone fishing with the worms that I found in the mud on my hood.
-----Original Message-----
From: Laliberty, Jason (SCP) [mailto:jason.laliberty@fairmont.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 3:27 PM
To: 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [az_vjc] Mud In AZ
Here is the spot....
Jason LaLiberty <>
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36341 From: Laliberty, Jason (SCP) <jason.laliberty@f...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:40pm
Subject: RE: Mud In AZ
Hey you have to take what you can get out here! hahahaha
-----Original Message-----
From: Siade, Randy [mailto:randy.siade@unisys.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 3:39 PM
To: 'Laliberty, Jason (SCP)'; 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Mud In AZ
Ha!! thats not real mud. When I get change I will scan some pics. of Indiana mud. Real mud has no bottom and the longer you truck sits in it the deeper it sinks. I got a pic. of one my trucks that had 36" tires on it, I was stuck so deep I had to roll my windows down to get out of my truck. The next day I could have gone fishing with the worms that I found in the mud on my hood.
-----Original Message-----
From: Laliberty, Jason (SCP) [mailto:jason.laliberty@fairmont.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 3:27 PM
To: 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [az_vjc] Mud In AZ
Here is the spot....
Jason LaLiberty <>
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36342 From: <Mike@A...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:51pm
Subject: Re: Mud In AZ
Hmm, I remember mud like that in Panama (where it rains litterally
every day from Feb 15 to Dec 15; 60 to 120 inches every year) I
remember someone sinking a Hummer up to it's door handles in mud on
the Drop Zone. We parked a loader on the "hard pack" to hook up the
chains to the stuck hummer, by the time we got the chains on and
turned around the loader was up to its axles in it.
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Siade, Randy" <randy.siade@u...> wrote:
> Ha!! thats not real mud. When I get change I will scan some pics.
of
> Indiana mud. Real mud has no bottom and the longer you truck sits
in it the
> deeper it sinks.
36343 From: lynch <lynch@v...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:54pm
Subject: Re: Mud
Heh, I just took my 2 older girls slinging through some mud on the way home
from school. The 'splashy puddles' were a big hit! The BFG M/T's self-clean a
heck of a lot better then the old badyears I used to run.
-lynch
On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 02:17:25PM -0700, Joe Kearney wrote:
> I can't believe that no one has talked about any fun times in the mud yet.
> I was thinking about going out this afternoon but I doubt it now. I am
> still trying to think about it for tomorrow.
>
>
> Joe Kearney
> Have A Great Day
>
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36344 From: JoeKPhx <JoeKPhx@h...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:59pm
Subject: RE: Re: MUD!!!
I grew up in NJ and that is where I purchased my first CJ& and they have
some mud there in the pine lands.
Lots of it.
GOD BLESS AMERICA
Joe Kearney
Pager 877-655-4991
Have a good day
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason B [mailto:the_anubis@h...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 3:34 PM
To: jaylalib@h...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: MUD!!!
I get off at 5 would love to go, i'll call ya!
Jason B
92 YJ
From: jaylalib@h...
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: MUD!!!
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 22:22:11 -0000
P.S. I have a tow strap!!!!!
--- In az_vjc@y..., jaylalib@h... wrote:
> There is a great spot on Scottsdale and Grayhawk. It is on the West
> side of the Road. Anyone want to go about 5pm?
>
> Jason LaLiberty
>
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36345 From: Mike & Karen Acuna <macunasprint@e...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 3:35pm
Subject: cb radio problems
I just wanted to thank Stu for checking my swr adjustment. He did let
me know that the radio was putting out plenty of power, but the antenna
sucks. It was the through the glass model and would not adjust at all.
Radio shack gave me my money back and now I'm trying to decide what type
of antenna set up I'm going to use. Any suggestions would be
appreciated. 98ZJ
Thanks, Mike
36346 From: Nick <nnote@a...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 3:43pm
Subject: Place to mud
For mud ya'll need to go to Elliot and Dobson, behind the mobil. Let me know!
Nick
36347 From: <squarelights@h...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 3:43pm
Subject: Does anyone have a trailer I can borrow
Hello I am in need of a trailer that can haul some sand, and some
junk to the dump. I will pay you for letting me borrow it. any size,
thanks
nick l.
36348 From: Brent Lizakowski <brent_lizakowski@h...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 3:56pm
Subject: Re: cb radio problems
Stu didn't give any advice on a new antenna???
I'm running a 4' Firestick II. They're fairly easy to come by (check
your local truck stop or visit Fry's Electronics) I think they have
them as well... Or if you prefer to shop at home, I got mine at
http://www.valcoelectronics.com you can read about them at
http://www.firestik.com). Mine seems to work fine. It's tuneable, and
inexpensive (about $14). I prefer the look and function of a
fiberglass antenna to that of a wire whip. I'm sure there are
advantages and disadvantages to both. But, I couldn't tell you what
they are.
Wilson seems to be a good brand for the wire whips. Again, I can't
tell you much about them as I don't have one and have never used one
before.
I also have a quick disconnect on my antenna (like this one:
http://www.firestik.com/Catalog/K&R-1A.htm) . The antenna sticks up
rather high (mounted on my rear tire carrier) and I need to take it
off to fit in the garage. Don't get one of those springs because your
antenna will just be whipping all over the place on a trail run.
I can attest that the fiberglass antennas are pretty durable. I once
forgot to disco the antenna and drove into the garage. I thought the
thing was going to poke itself right through the garage door. The
only way for me to get it off without breaking it was to actually
bend it further than it was already bent, tie it off, and then
disconnect it.
--- In az_vjc@y..., Mike & Karen Acuna <macunasprint@e...> wrote:
> I just wanted to thank Stu for checking my swr adjustment. He did
let
> me know that the radio was putting out plenty of power, but the
antenna
> sucks. It was the through the glass model and would not adjust at
all.
> Radio shack gave me my money back and now I'm trying to decide what
type
> of antenna set up I'm going to use. Any suggestions would be
> appreciated. 98ZJ
> Thanks, Mike
36349 From: Baja Fleg <fleigle@h...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 3:57pm
Subject: Re: cb radio problems
A firestick antenna I've been told is the best. Thats what I'm using and am
happy with it. Bronco One carries them and I've seen that Fry's Electronics
also but not for sure about that.
Michael
----Original Message Follows----
From: Mike & Karen Acuna <macunasprint@e...>
To: AZVJC AZVJC <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [az_vjc] cb radio problems
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 16:35:43 -0700
I just wanted to thank Stu for checking my swr adjustment. He did let
me know that the radio was putting out plenty of power, but the antenna
sucks. It was the through the glass model and would not adjust at all.
Radio shack gave me my money back and now I'm trying to decide what type
of antenna set up I'm going to use. Any suggestions would be
appreciated. 98ZJ
Thanks, Mike
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36350 From: <jaylalib@h...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 2:48pm
Subject: Re: MUD RUN!!!
So it looks like two of us are going so far....if you want to join
us we will be at Scottdale and just south of Grayhawk which is north
of Bell rd.
480-585-2702 after 4:45pm 480-215-3390
Jason LaLiberty
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Jason B" <the_anubis@h...> wrote:
> I get off at 5 would love to go, i'll call ya!
>
>
> Jason B
> 92 YJ
>
> From: jaylalib@h...
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: MUD!!!
> Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 22:22:11 -0000
>
> P.S. I have a tow strap!!!!!
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., jaylalib@h... wrote:
> > There is a great spot on Scottsdale and Grayhawk. It is on the
West
> > side of the Road. Anyone want to go about 5pm?
> >
> > Jason LaLiberty
> >
> > Email me at jason.laliberty@f... or call me at 480-585-2702!
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36351 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 4:13pm
Subject: [TR] Trip Report - Lake Pleasant to Crown King - Saturday, December 1, 2001
Hello All,
Joey Kulich lead a trail run Saturday, December 1, 2001 across Lake Pleasant to Crown King
Well one friend had tranny problems and the other had a prior engagement. There were three Jeeps (ZJ, TJ, YJ) that embarked on this adventure. We aired down and after a late start we headed to Crown King. What a perfect day. Temperature was in the low 70s and very few clouds in the sky. About half way we met up with a retired couple in an XJ. He showed off his GPS, Laptop and tracking software which was pretty impressive. If I understood them correctly they travel the country 4 wheelin' while taking pictures of old mines and just exploring. I can only hope I have it so well in my later days. All in all an uneventful day with great scenery and people.
OH wait there was one unusual thing that happened. I guess some guys that were ahead of us came across an elderly lady wondering her way back to CK. She was obviously not prepared for the journey. She apparently got her truck stuck about a 2 - 3 miles from the ledge and spent the night. Then in the morning she tried to walk to CK for help (all up hill). She was disoriented and starving for food and water. The gentlemen that found her, unstuck her 2WD truck and drove her truck and her to CK. Hats off to them.
Joey K
93YJ
Trip Attendees:
Joey Kulich
Kevin Kilroy
Pat Dicks
Click Here to View Pictures (if available)
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
36352 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2001 4:21pm
Subject: Re: Jeep Service Shops in Mesa Area
Fly-N-High, no, no, no, no....
What kind of work do you need done?
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., zonie100@y... wrote:
> Does anyone have any input on any of the service shops in the Mesa
> area. Or perhaps a good mechanic for my Jeep. I stopped by
the "Off
> Road Unlimited" and "Fly-N-Hi" shops. Any input on these from any
of
> you rock-crawlers? (New to the Valley).
> Larry D.