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AZG23
10-02-2006, 10:27 AM
I wasnt going to post up anything about our run last night as I dont think anyone got ANY pics...(Rob, did your wife get any)

But wanted to comment on these trails in the White Tanks....I hadnt been on any of these three trails...and only knew where lower Scorpion was from one of the mapping expeditions we did for the Buckeye regional park plans...

Anyway...Mike Varne, Wayco, Rob Deal and myself met at the airdown spot about 4:30p...got airdown, and set to go....(wannabejeeper had to watch football instead-so he missed a kickin' run :( )

We discussed what and where and headed out....for those that dont know, these 3 trails are on the west side of the main trail leading up into the canyon.

We set up to do Turtle Falls, then Intimidator and onto Lower Scorpion in that order...so up the trail to the 1st wash and made a left...took it up to the Y...to the right is Turtle Falls and leftish is Intimidator...we had decided to do Turtle Falls 1st, then loop around and do Intimidator and loop back to do Lower Scorpion last....

Turtle is basically just 2 nice sized waterfalls but not to eventful...but cool, then we looped back and up Intimidator...stopping at the top to check out the falls dubbed "The CAN OPENER!"...its a pretty good sized falls with a rock jetting out from the right side...the falls slopes down toward the rock..we opted out and took the early out next to it...apparently just up from that point is a trail called De-capitator...:eek:

So after climbing out of the wash...we headed back down and dropped into the 2nd wash and headed towards Tax Collector (right) and Lower Scorpion (left)...Lower Scorpion looks to be a kick butt trail, but we didnt get a chance to finish it...and it was getting late...:eek: Mike took the 1st to falls with ease...and made it look like a walk in the park for those of us on stock gears, no 4:1 TC and 33's..;)

So we will tackle it another day...when a little more time permits...we probably could have all done it but without knowing its actual length and some needing to get to work today...we called it short...

It was still a great run, with great people as usual...NO breakage, and NO problems....

Rob, If you got pics...send em to me, Ill host n post...
big jim
10-02-2006, 11:41 AM
Just wondering how Turtle Falls got its name? :D

Jim
AZG23
10-02-2006, 11:50 AM
not sure....maybe someone toppled over like a turtle on its back..:eek:

http://home.comcast.net/~rudenbiz/Herpetology/images/003_NR_upside_down_T.JPG


or maybe cuz the rocks look like the shapes on the back of a turtle...I dunno..:confused:
AZG23
10-02-2006, 11:54 AM
this looks like a few Jeep pics Ive seen B4...

:D

http://www.painetworks.com/photos/13/130342.JPG

maybe someone who knows it a little better can say....
big jim
10-02-2006, 11:58 AM
I've been up it many times, if you go to far right on the upper fall with a short WB I think you might go over on your top. Went up it once with Stu, he had some wicked air under his left front, but it did come down. Next time you go out post it up I'll go. :)

Jim
big jim
10-02-2006, 12:00 PM
My avatar is the start of the lower fall.
Wayco
10-02-2006, 12:02 PM
Yea Brad, that was a good run last night. Thanks for inviting me along.
I am also curious where you got all the info. on those trails. I thought you called it Turtle wash yesterday.
It was a blast watching everyone exit just below the can opener. I'm glad no one wanted to try it. :eek: It was hard to spot Mike's rig, he made everything look so easy, until we got to the double falls on lower Scorpion. Sorry we got you into trouble there Mike. I'm glad you could see that other line and got yourself out. Now that I've seen you do it, I would like to give it a try. Then we could see how far up the road is.
I didn't get any pic's, hope Linda got some.
LOST TJ
10-02-2006, 12:11 PM
Sounds like a great time Brad. I would have gone if i wasn't dedicated to the martinez run. You'll definitley have to show me intimidator and decapitator.
I have driven down the falls on lower scorpion but never up them. I can see that being real scary at night. I need to take a couple of weeks iff to do some needed maintnence then we'll have to go hit them. Glad you guys had fun. I'll catch ya next time.
AZG23
10-02-2006, 12:12 PM
I got the info for Turtle falls and Intimidator from JCSXJ....BigJims son..?? Is that right Big Jim...I think thats the relation...anyway..kudos to him for the many e-mails/PM's and GoogleEarth snapshots to find those...Id found Lower Scorpion as I said previously....

James (JCSXJ) was calling it double waterfall trail...I talked to Chris (My1stJeep) and he said he had heard people call it Turtle Falls..and I had heard/read it called that as well...
AZG23
10-02-2006, 12:13 PM
My avatar is the start of the lower fall.

Do you have this pic fullsize..??
AZG23
10-02-2006, 12:14 PM
Sounds like a great time Brad. I would have gone if i wasn't dedicated to the martinez run. You'll definitley have to show me intimidator and decapitator.
I have driven down the falls on lower scorpion but never up them. I can see that being real scary at night. I need to take a couple of weeks iff to do some needed maintnence then we'll have to go hit them. Glad you guys had fun. I'll catch ya next time.


No problem...lemme know when you are bolted back together..:D
big jim
10-02-2006, 12:19 PM
Yes Brad, that's my son, no problem on the info. if it has anything to do with wheeling he's there. Turtle Falls is ok, we never heard a name for it so we always just called it double water fall trail. Like I say when you go out again let me/us know it's about a 20 min. drive for us.

Jim
michale r varne
10-02-2006, 12:24 PM
Had a blast guys. I really would like to go back sometime and finish lower scorpion, going up and not down.LOL Thanks for great spotting Wanye. Let me know when the next day run is.
Wayco
10-02-2006, 12:53 PM
Had a blast guys. I really would like to go back sometime and finish lower scorpion, going up and not down.LOL Thanks for great spotting Wanye. Let me know when the next day run is.

No problem, Mkie. :rolleyes: ^^ The more I spot you the better I will get at it. I read the message between the lines on "day run" :D
AZG23
10-02-2006, 12:58 PM
or at least "more" daylight........I just plotted it out on GoogleEarth...the whole trail is only a mile long...:( Wish I woulda known last night...
Wayco
10-02-2006, 01:16 PM
I just measured from the end of our track, and we were still more than half a mile from the road that goes past Scorpion. We still don't know what might be lurking up there....:eek: :D
Oldyeller
10-02-2006, 02:04 PM
I'd be interested in a run out there too, my new radiator should be coming in on thursday, and I hear it's supposed to get a lot cooler this weekend. Just looked at google earth for the first time, i never realized how far back those roads went, looks like in a couple places you can go all the way through.
AZG23
10-02-2006, 03:50 PM
yes....it does go from one end to the other...
Oldyeller
10-02-2006, 03:52 PM
yes....it does go from one end to the other...

Anyone ever actually run the entire way across? is it a nice trail ride?
LOST TJ
10-02-2006, 04:04 PM
If you follow the main trail and do not turn into Firebird keep following the main trail past Scorpion that road will wind through the mountains out to sun valley parkway.
It takes awhile and is about 30 to 35 miles of bumpy dirt road.
AZG23
10-02-2006, 05:27 PM
Anyone ever actually run the entire way across? is it a nice trail ride?

Yep..been across it several times...its a nice mellow trail ride with a few climbs and drops....depending on which way you pick...
Wayco
10-02-2006, 07:08 PM
Just make sure you have a full tank of gas when you go....
SHNIPE
10-02-2006, 07:18 PM
Turtle Falls is named after our own Turtle. He found it, he named it!
Heres his old shell!
http://www.jeeps-offroad.com/reader-rigs/albums/SHNIPE/turtles_green_cage.jpg
AZG23
10-02-2006, 07:20 PM
Turtle Falls is named after our own Turtle. He found it, he named it!



ahhh.......
big jim
10-02-2006, 08:43 PM
Do you have this pic fullsize..??

I'll see if I can find them. I have to get a cat. and muffler put on the Jeep this week, maybe if I get it done before saturday we can set up a early morning run on saturday.:D

Jim
AZG23
10-02-2006, 09:36 PM
I'll see if I can find them. I have to get a cat. and muffler put on the Jeep this week, maybe if I get it done before saturday we can set up a early morning run on saturday.:D

Jim

well may I suggest


Pro Muffler
maps.google.com
8615 W Kelton Ln # 306
Peoria, AZ 85382
(623) 876-9660


Talk to Jason...tell em you saw this on the AZ Virtual Jeep club...good prices and great service...I was very happy with the work I had done there...

As for an early Saturday run....:( I work on Sats...7:30a-6:30p But Im more than positive there is a handful of capable rigs ready to go again...:cool:
Wind_Danzer
10-02-2006, 11:41 PM
So when does a girlget an invite to the White Tanks parties?? :p ;)
wannabejeeper
10-03-2006, 08:01 AM
When she gets lockers!:p ;) Just kiddin Jamie, everybody else is taking their shots, I just wanted to be like the cool kids.:cool:

Brad, my Bears won big on Sun., I'm a Cub and Bears fan so when I get a chance to actually see one of my teams win for a change, I can't pass it up! Glad you guys had a good time and I'll be out there the next time.
AZG23
10-03-2006, 01:14 PM
Football??.....over wheelin'??...thats a sickness man...I dont care who ya are...specially with a brand new LA and 35's that havent been on real dirt!

it just aint right I tell ya!

aight...got a few pics from Rob...they are from a camera phone so they arent great quality...but as I said...we all spaced bringing a camera..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/azg23/Picture031.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/azg23/Picture017.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/azg23/Picture015.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/azg23/Picture001.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/azg23/Picture034.jpg
reds97tj
10-03-2006, 01:15 PM
Brad the pics my wife took are with her phone so they are not the greatest quality, but better than nothing. I really wish we had more time I really would like to try what mike did and finish out that trail.
AZG23
10-03-2006, 02:26 PM
no problem with the camera phn pics...at least folks can get a look at it that havent been...

Here are the others you sent:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/azg23/Whitetanks7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/azg23/Whitetanks6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/azg23/Whitetanks5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/azg23/Whitetanks4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/azg23/Whitetanks3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/azg23/Whitetanks2.jpg
wannabejeeper
10-03-2006, 03:02 PM
I know, I know...but the desert will be here for a while, the Bears winning is a freak of nature!!
SHNIPE
10-03-2006, 03:14 PM
Oh i wanna run that trail :D

Brad i better get an invite next time :D
AZG23
10-03-2006, 04:19 PM
Im looking to regear here in the next week or 2...so Ill be putting another one together...It will probably start with Lower Scorpion....

Id recommend at least 33's and a traction devices f and r...
shannonmac
10-03-2006, 04:21 PM
dang it!
then i'll have to ride shotgun with someone and man the CB!!!!
SHNIPE
10-03-2006, 04:29 PM
i only have a locker in the front but ill give it a try, if not ill park it and walk. cause i dont wanna have to listen to shan on the cb!
big jim
10-03-2006, 04:32 PM
I should know later tonight if I can set something up for Saturday morning. If I can I'll start a new post.:)

Jim
shannonmac
10-03-2006, 04:37 PM
i only have a locker in the front but ill give it a try, if not ill park it and walk. cause i dont wanna have to listen to shan on the cb!

i'm sure i'll be quite amusing :D
Wayco
10-03-2006, 04:53 PM
I know, I know...but the desert will be here for a while, the Bears winning is a freak of nature!!

Hey Brian, I just watched that game yesterday, TIVO is a wonderful thing! You should get used to watching the Bears win, they will be doing that alot this season. :)
Next time don't use a football game for an excuse, come out and wheel with us and I will invite you over to watch them in HI Def. on my 61" screen...:D
And NO the desert will NOT be here forever, believe me I've watched it disapper rapidly over the past few years. :(
JCSXJ
10-03-2006, 04:54 PM
i only have a locker in the front but ill give it a try, if not ill park it and walk. cause i dont wanna have to listen to shan on the cb!


I'm the one that gave AZG23 the directions to the trail. I run those trails all the time with 33's, front locker, LSD rear and stock gearing and don't have any problems. I have ran those trails with 32's with the same setup and did just fine too, although it is easier with the 33's. Come on out with us if my dad (Big Jim) posts up a run.
big jim
10-03-2006, 04:59 PM
And NO the desert will NOT be here forever, believe me I've watched it disapper rapidly over the past few years. :(

I hear you on that note! My son has run all these trails with 32's lock rite up front and trash lock in the rear, in his XJ.:D

Jim
wannabejeeper
10-03-2006, 05:08 PM
Hey Brian, I just watched that game yesterday, TIVO is a wonderful thing! You should get used to watching the Bears win, they will be doing that alot this season. :)
Next time don't use a football game for an excuse, come out and wheel with us and I will invite you over to watch them in HI Def. on my 61" screen...:D
And NO the desert will NOT be here forever, believe me I've watched it disapper rapidly over the past few years. :(

I want TIVO, but I decided to get married to a girl with 3 kids instead!:eek: (btw, donations and babysitting always welcome!;) )

Wayne, you're on with that big screen!:) And you're right about the desert, I remember when everything west of dysart was dirt.:( Man I feel old.

I need to get my heep out and see what it'll do, but I'm afraid I'll be diappointed and have to get more and better _______ , then I won't get that TIVO! I mean seriously, how much better is it going to be going from a BB with 32' to a 4" tri-rear and 35's?:D
AZG23
10-03-2006, 07:33 PM
dang it!
then i'll have to ride shotgun with someone and man the CB!!!!


LOL...cmon then...you can ride shotty! I THINK we could DRAG you up it though if'n you wanna try it...!:eek: :eek:
SHNIPE
10-03-2006, 07:56 PM
shed be pissed if you scratched the yellow paint :D
Wayco
10-03-2006, 08:14 PM
Brian, the only thing better than having your rig built would be WHEELING IT! You won't be dissapointed, between watching Spongebob and Mike, I'm almost ready to upgrade to what YOU have.
Brad, I would much rather see Shannon riding shotgun than dragging her up the double falls! :eek:
I wish I could post a return run but my future is uncertain, we have a contractor diddling around on a new roof for our place up in Red River, NM and I may have to drive up there and light a fire under his butt.
I really want to try Mikes line up those falls, he always makes it look easy, unless he has to come back down.... :D
shannonmac
10-03-2006, 08:33 PM
shed be pissed if you scratched the yellow paint :D

hehehe

i'm gonna make everyone move all the branches out of the way ;)
AZG23
10-03-2006, 08:36 PM
hehehe

i'm gonna make everyone move all the branches out of the way ;)


Then you sure as heck AINT goin'!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D
azcharlie
10-03-2006, 08:38 PM
When are you guys planning on running this again?
AZG23
10-03-2006, 08:40 PM
When are you guys planning on running this again?


I dunno the next time I can...your best bet is to watch to see if big Jim and JCSXJ plan a run thru it....this weekend...
shannonmac
10-03-2006, 08:45 PM
Then you sure as heck AINT goin'!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

:eek: :eek: :eek:




:D
big jim
10-03-2006, 08:52 PM
Ok everyone I posted up a Saturday morning run. It should be alot of fun, and as for the branches the last time we went thru Lower Scorpion I cut back the bad ones.:D

Jim