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32099 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 10:04pm
Subject: [FS] YJ wheels For Sale
Price: make an offer
Contact: t_dog55@hotmail.com
5 Used stock wheels with tires off my 1990 YJ
4 Used chrome blade steel wheels off YJ
Travis Carpenter
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32100 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 10:06pm
Subject: [FS] Stock YJ Springs
Price: make an offer
Contact: t_dog55@hotmail.com
Stock YJ springs off 1990 Wrangler. There in great shape.
Travis Carpenter
32101 From: <jeeperaz@b...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 10:05pm
Subject: Re: Electric Fans, Need HELP
I have a SPAL fan..... far superior to the other types I have seen.
SPAL manufacturers their own motors which are highly balanced and
will last much longer than the others (who by the way, all use the
same motors from some company in Texas).
Have a look:
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jeeperaz/spal_fan.jpg
Notice the flaps at the top and bottom, these open up at hwy speeds
and allow air to flow much more freely.
Regaards,
LarryM
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Jay Eller" <jay@t...> wrote:
> Below is info someone sent me off list. I don't believe he copied
the list
> too. So I have included a copy below for all to read. Really good
> info..............
> ----------------------------
> Jay Eller
> http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <kshields@p...>
> To: "Jay Eller" <jay@t...>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 3:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Electric Fans, Need HELP
>
>
> > For truly best results you should run a shroud on a stock fan
> > (preferably with an RV clutch fan - this will cycle at lower
> > temps and will spin faster than std clutches, plus clutch fans are
> > more forgiving when performing a water crossing.)
> >
> > Below are some FAQs from www.flex-a-lite.com that might be of use.
> > ********************
> > How much clearance do I need between my flex fan and radiator?
> > At very least 1" from the closest part of the fan to the radiator.
> > This inch allows for movement in your motor mounts, chassis flex,
and
> > of course flex in the fan
> >
> > When installing an electric fan how much of the radiator needs to
be
> > covered? We recommend 70% of the radiator core be covered.
> >
> > How important is it to have a shroud around my fan? Very, one of
the
> > properties of air is that it likes to follow the path of least
> > resistance. With a shroud you force the air to be drawn through
the
> > radiator instead of around it.
> >
> > How far should I put my fan into the shroud opening? As close to
half
> > in and half out as possible.
> >
> > Which type of electric fan is better, a pusher or puller? For
primary
> > use a puller. For auxiliary use a pusher
> > ***************
> >
> > I was having heating problems (still am, cannot afford the alum
rad
> > yet)in my FJ40 with a 350. Looked around and did some research,
here
> > are some other things I have found: For best results:
> >
> > Run a mechanically driven fan.
> >
> > Place the electric aux fan behind the rad, in front of the
mechanical
> > slightly "offset" to ensure that the clutch thermal coil has
airflow.
> > If no room put the largest possible fan in front of the rad.
> >
> > Run a fan shroud on the mechanical fan. (ducted fans draw more
air)
> >
> > Run a quality aluminum rad (griffin, or other - spend the money
how
> > much is the motor worth & how long of walk are you wanting to) the
> > aluminum radiator will buy you from 20% to 40% better cooling over
> > brass/copper.
> >
> > As to type of electric, when in pusher mode most fans are running
at
> > 80% efficiency (of what they would do in puller). Straight blades
> > move more air but are noisy.
> >
> > I have tried multiple varieties of electrics on my vehicles, the
one
> > I have had the best results in my Toy is the spal 16" high
> > performance in pusher mode even (front of Rad). It is rated at
2360
> > cfm - nice thing it is only 3.4" thick. The black magic was too
> > thick for my application. (plus it really is not designed to be
> > pusher (from flex-a-lite rep), go to checker at Gilbert and
Baseline
> > or other to look at the blade design, in pusher mode - blades
> > flipped -it looks like it need an additional 1" of clearance). The
> > only draw backs to the Spal that I have seen is that it is LOUD -
> > sounds like a high speed turbine and it needs a 30A circuit,
> > minimum. They use the Spal's in NASCAR and other racing.
> > You can find them on the web for between $130 to $180. Below are a
> > few places I have found them on sale: (FYI BeCool resales them and
> > are available through Summit but they are $$$$$)
> >
> > http://www.carolinarodshop.com/16spal1.htm - $133
> > http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/fan.htm - $149
> > http://www.wildhorses4x4.com/07.asp#spal - $149
> >
> > If you go spal, the brackets they come with amazingly stiff, once
it
> > is all tightened down.
> >
> > Best all-round advice, spend the money for the right parts the
first
> > time. Go with the aluminum radiator first, then electrics.
> >
> > Good Luck and be cool....
32102 From: Durham <bdurham@e...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 10:28pm
Subject: 8.25 yoke
I need a yoke for a Chrysler 8.25" rear axle. Anyone want to part with one?
durham
brian@d...
32103 From: <nickcarrie@h...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 0:36am
Subject: Exhaust for 4cly YJ
anybody got any experience with exhaust for a yj 4 cyl? I need to
get one soon and would like some input. what to buy-what not to buy
Jeep is 93, yj, 4cly.
tia.
Nick L.
32104 From: tom lafrance <tlafrance@j...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 7:31am
Subject: YJ power steering
Can anyone tell me when Jeep went to metric fittings on the power
steering box hose connections?
Thanks,
Tom LaFrance
32105 From: <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 8:09am
Subject: OT - Calling all Golphers, here is your OFFICIAL Invite
Ok, my apologies to your duffers out there for not inviting anyone to
play in the charity golf tournament.
Please accept this as your official invite to the tournament. If
there is enough interest maybe we can make a foursome or two
representing the AZVJC.
There is the info:
October 25th
ASU Karsten Golf Course
11:00a-5:00p
$99.00 per player
It sounds like John Butler and Mike Baney are interested, as would I
be. So please respond if you are interested to my work
email( radocccl@w... ) and I will see what we can put
together.
Chris R.
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32106 From: Blake Van de Loo <blake@m...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 8:25am
Subject: RE: OT - Calling all Golphers, here is your OFFICIAL Inv ite
Are you looking for Golfers or Gophers? Or a combination of the two.
-----Original Message-----
From: my1stjeep@e... [mailto:my1stjeep@e...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:09 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] OT - Calling all Golphers, here is your OFFICIAL
Invite
Ok, my apologies to your duffers out there for not inviting anyone to
play in the charity golf tournament.
Please accept this as your official invite to the tournament. If
there is enough interest maybe we can make a foursome or two
representing the AZVJC.
There is the info:
October 25th
ASU Karsten Golf Course
11:00a-5:00p
$99.00 per player
It sounds like John Butler and Mike Baney are interested, as would I
be. So please respond if you are interested to my work
email( radocccl@w... ) and I will see what we can put
together.
Chris R.
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32107 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 8:26am
Subject: Anybody know what an axle is worth?
Would anybody care to guess what a D35c from a TJ with an ARB & 3.73's would
be worth, reasonably? I wouldn't want to hang on to it long as I am hoping
it would help pay for some things when I put in the new (new to me) axle.
TIA
--James
32108 From: Jacobson, Thomas <Tjacobson@A...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 8:28am
Subject: Need East Valley Exhaust Shop
Hey Gang,
Am lookin for any recommendations for a shop in the East Valley that can
repair and replace a few exhaust system components on my Wrangler...and, uh,
do just a bit of light welding to uh, re-attach on of the mounting tabs
(don't ask, just a stupid driving move). I'm only looking to replace a
stock component - the pipe from the bottom of the exhaust manifold back to
the front of the cat - so don't need anything fancy. Anyone know of a shop
to get this done on the cheap???
Thanks,
Tom J.
'87 YJ 4.2L
32109 From: Blake Van de Loo <blake@m...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 8:28am
Subject: RE: Anybody know what an axle is worth?
I guess........$50 when should I pick it up? ;-)
Blake
-----Original Message-----
From: James Towle [mailto:James.Towle@a...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:27 AM
To: AZ_VJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Anybody know what an axle is worth?
Would anybody care to guess what a D35c from a TJ with an ARB & 3.73's would
be worth, reasonably? I wouldn't want to hang on to it long as I am hoping
it would help pay for some things when I put in the new (new to me) axle.
TIA
--James
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32110 From: <Mike@A...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 8:30am
Subject: Re: [TR] Florence Junction Area - Thursday, October 18, 2001
I plan on attending as well. I just sent my registration so I'm not
sure which trails I'm doing either.
I'll probably head out early Friday morning rather than Wheeling the
Table Mesa area trail (L. Terminator, I hope), heading back home to
Avondale, then all the way across town and out to Florence Jnct.
Maybe who ever is going out there first should get ahold of the AzVJC
banner and "claim" an area.
- Mike
32111 From: Eric Herring <herring@q...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 8:38am
Subject: RE: OT - Calling all Golphers, here is your OFFICIAL Invite
It's just like regular golf but you get to make your own holes ;-)
Eric Herring 92XJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Blake Van de Loo [mailto:blake@m...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:25 AM
To: 'my1stjeep@e...'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] OT - Calling all Golphers, here is your OFFICIAL
Invite
Are you looking for Golfers or Gophers? Or a combination of the two.
-----Original Message-----
From: my1stjeep@e... [mailto:my1stjeep@e...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:09 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] OT - Calling all Golphers, here is your OFFICIAL
Invite
Ok, my apologies to your duffers out there for not inviting anyone to
play in the charity golf tournament.
Please accept this as your official invite to the tournament. If
there is enough interest maybe we can make a foursome or two
representing the AZVJC.
There is the info:
October 25th
ASU Karsten Golf Course
11:00a-5:00p
$99.00 per player
It sounds like John Butler and Mike Baney are interested, as would I
be. So please respond if you are interested to my work
email( radocccl@w... ) and I will see what we can put
together.
Chris R.
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32112 From: Eric Herring <herring@q...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 8:40am
Subject: RE: Need East Valley Exhaust Shop
I usually go to Mad Hatter.
Eric Herring 92XJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Jacobson, Thomas [mailto:Tjacobson@A...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:28 AM
To: 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [az_vjc] Need East Valley Exhaust Shop
Hey Gang,
Am lookin for any recommendations for a shop in the East Valley that can
repair and replace a few exhaust system components on my Wrangler...and, uh,
do just a bit of light welding to uh, re-attach on of the mounting tabs
(don't ask, just a stupid driving move). I'm only looking to replace a
stock component - the pipe from the bottom of the exhaust manifold back to
the front of the cat - so don't need anything fancy. Anyone know of a shop
to get this done on the cheap???
Thanks,
Tom J.
'87 YJ 4.2L
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32113 From: JW <joew@a...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 8:40am
Subject: RE: Re: Wheeling Damage
I think his best bet would be to say that it was stolen and then go run it
off the cliff at Martinez Canyon. <grin>
The cool thing about owning a Jeep is that everyone has their own idea of
the perfect Jeep... you start with a blank canvas and then start adding the
brush strokes... it's just that Dan accidently picked up a knife instead of
a paintbrush. <grin>
Dan... ever think of naming your Jeep Pigpen?
<laugh>
Kind Regards,
Joe West
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Towle [mailto:James.Towle@a...]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 5:14 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Wheeling Damage
>
>
>
> Did you ever think of claiming it on insurance? Maybe you can say all
> the damage happened at the same time. Man, that would be one heck of
> a story.
> Nah.... :)
>
> --James
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Dan Coley" <mt_b@y...> wrote:
> > I think I need a new sticker. Now I know why Sharky kept getting a
> > weird look on his face whenever metal hit the rocks.
> >
> > I wonder if I can buff out the scratches?....
> >
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
32114 From: Randall A. Mutter <ramaz@h...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 8:53am
Subject: RE: Need East Valley Exhaust Shop
Hi Tom
I just had the same thing replaced on my sons XJ at Mad Hatter (Broadway +
Gilbert) for $50.
RAM
Randall A. Mutter
ramaz@h... <mailto:ramaz@h...>
Thank goodness there are no 12 step programs for Jeeping...
-----Original Message-----
From: Jacobson, Thomas [mailto:Tjacobson@A...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:28 AM
To: 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [az_vjc] Need East Valley Exhaust Shop
Hey Gang,
Am lookin for any recommendations for a shop in the East Valley that can
repair and replace a few exhaust system components on my Wrangler...and, uh,
do just a bit of light welding to uh, re-attach on of the mounting tabs
(don't ask, just a stupid driving move). I'm only looking to replace a
stock component - the pipe from the bottom of the exhaust manifold back to
the front of the cat - so don't need anything fancy. Anyone know of a shop
to get this done on the cheap???
Thanks,
Tom J.
'87 YJ 4.2L
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32115 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 8:52am
Subject: TJ Engine Startup Issue
Ok, got a possible small problem, want to see if anyone else has
encountered it.
'00 TJ, 4cyl, no motor mods:
Start the jeep and at the instant that everything is running fine I
get a 1/4-1/2 second sound that is identical to the sound your
starter makes when you attempt to turn over an engine when it's
already running.
It only last about 1/2 second, and does not do it everytime, which is
making it difficult to diagnose. It's almost like my starter is
trying to keep starting the engine, even though it's already
running.
Motors aren't my speciality, so forgive me if the lingo is wrong.
Any ideas at all?
TIA
Dan
32116 From: <aphrodsyak@a...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 5:00am
Subject: Re: Re: Wheeling Damage
JUST Keep using the die grinder and cut the fender flares all the way back to the door frame. that'll get rid of it. OBviously it gets in the way.!!!
32117 From: Michael B. Wixom <mwixom@q...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 9:30am
Subject: Re: Need East Valley Exhaust Shop
A good friend of mine has an exhaust shop in the east valley. He has agreed
to offer club members a discount on any work. Just mention the AZVJC
Scottsdale Muffler
52nd Street & Thomas
602-957-1732
Ask For Chris McCurdy
Mike Wixom
85 CJ-7
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacobson, Thomas" <Tjacobson@A...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:28 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Need East Valley Exhaust Shop
> Hey Gang,
>
> Am lookin for any recommendations for a shop in the East Valley that can
> repair and replace a few exhaust system components on my Wrangler...and,
uh,
> do just a bit of light welding to uh, re-attach on of the mounting tabs
> (don't ask, just a stupid driving move). I'm only looking to replace a
> stock component - the pipe from the bottom of the exhaust manifold back to
> the front of the cat - so don't need anything fancy. Anyone know of a
shop
> to get this done on the cheap???
>
> Thanks,
> Tom J.
> '87 YJ 4.2L
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
32118 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 9:19am
Subject: RE: TJ Engine Startup Issue
You are probably right. It maybe the starter. I had a similar problem
that just got worse. The starter is vulnerable to dirt and water. I
attribute my starter's failure to being submersed. Although it took
awhile to go bad I am sure that was the start of it.
Actually before it was doing as you described, not disengaging, I
thought the battery was going dead and getting weak. It seemed like it
was really tough to start the engine, like a dying battery. Then the
starter would not let go of the fly wheel for a couple of seconds. When
I replaced the starter it was like I got a new battery too.
Also if I had the money I would have went to a Mean Green starter
http://www.mean-green.com/.
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Coley [mailto:mt_b@y...]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:52 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] TJ Engine Startup Issue
>
>
> Ok, got a possible small problem, want to see if anyone else has
> encountered it.
>
> '00 TJ, 4cyl, no motor mods:
> Start the jeep and at the instant that everything is running fine I
> get a 1/4-1/2 second sound that is identical to the sound your
> starter makes when you attempt to turn over an engine when it's
> already running.
>
> It only last about 1/2 second, and does not do it everytime, which is
> making it difficult to diagnose. It's almost like my starter is
> trying to keep starting the engine, even though it's already
> running.
>
> Motors aren't my speciality, so forgive me if the lingo is wrong.
>
> Any ideas at all?
>
> TIA
> Dan
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
32119 From: <aphrodsyak@a...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 5:29am
Subject: HELLO KIETH AUBLE
Keith please call me reguarding your rockkrawler kit.
ERIC 480-650-3887
32120 From: Jacobson, Thomas <Tjacobson@A...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 9:30am
Subject: RE: Need East Valley Exhaust Shop
Now that's more like it! I saw the tube could be ordered for about $36, yet
Midas was wanting like $150 to do the job!!!
Since they're very close, I'll try Mad Hatter first and then keep Mike W.'s
friend in mind if that don't work out.
Thanks everyone,
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: Randall A. Mutter [mailto:ramaz@h...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:54 AM
To: Jacobson, Thomas; Azvjc
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Need East Valley Exhaust Shop
Hi Tom
I just had the same thing replaced on my sons XJ at Mad Hatter (Broadway +
Gilbert) for $50.
RAM
Randall A. Mutter
ramaz@h... <mailto:ramaz@h...>
Thank goodness there are no 12 step programs for Jeeping...
-----Original Message-----
From: Jacobson, Thomas [mailto:Tjacobson@A...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:28 AM
To: 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [az_vjc] Need East Valley Exhaust Shop
Hey Gang,
Am lookin for any recommendations for a shop in the East Valley that can
repair and replace a few exhaust system components on my Wrangler...and, uh,
do just a bit of light welding to uh, re-attach on of the mounting tabs
(don't ask, just a stupid driving move). I'm only looking to replace a
stock component - the pipe from the bottom of the exhaust manifold back to
the front of the cat - so don't need anything fancy. Anyone know of a shop
to get this done on the cheap???
Thanks,
Tom J.
'87 YJ 4.2L
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32121 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 10:29am
Subject: [FS] WANTED: AXLES: Know where I can get any?
Price: OPEN
Contact: Matt 602-284-0414 mosgood@goprolink.com
I am in need of axles. Prefferably rear end, but I will need front and rear.
Dana 44/60, Ford 9", 14 bolt...
Please contact it you have anything, and/or know anyone/anywhere I can find them.
Thanks- Matt
Matt 602-284-0414 mosgood@goprolink.com
Matt Osgood
32122 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 10:47am
Subject: [FS] 2" PROCOMP LIFT FOR TJ
Price: $175.00 OBO $200 with disconnects
Contact: jason.laliberty@fairmont.com/ jaylalib@home.com
4 procomp coils springs and shocks for a TJ. No other hardware necessary to lift your jeep. Going to a higher lift.
Jason LaLiberty
32123 From: <kmichael02@y...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 11:49am
Subject: Re: [FS] WANTED: AXLES: Know where I can get any?
--- In az_vjc@y..., AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...> wrote:
>
I may be able to help you out...what are you going to do with all
this big stuff...if ya don't mind me asking?
32099 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 10:04pm
Subject: [FS] YJ wheels For Sale
Price: make an offer
Contact: t_dog55@hotmail.com
5 Used stock wheels with tires off my 1990 YJ
4 Used chrome blade steel wheels off YJ
Travis Carpenter
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32100 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 10:06pm
Subject: [FS] Stock YJ Springs
Price: make an offer
Contact: t_dog55@hotmail.com
Stock YJ springs off 1990 Wrangler. There in great shape.
Travis Carpenter
32101 From: <jeeperaz@b...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 10:05pm
Subject: Re: Electric Fans, Need HELP
I have a SPAL fan..... far superior to the other types I have seen.
SPAL manufacturers their own motors which are highly balanced and
will last much longer than the others (who by the way, all use the
same motors from some company in Texas).
Have a look:
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jeeperaz/spal_fan.jpg
Notice the flaps at the top and bottom, these open up at hwy speeds
and allow air to flow much more freely.
Regaards,
LarryM
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Jay Eller" <jay@t...> wrote:
> Below is info someone sent me off list. I don't believe he copied
the list
> too. So I have included a copy below for all to read. Really good
> info..............
> ----------------------------
> Jay Eller
> http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <kshields@p...>
> To: "Jay Eller" <jay@t...>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 3:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Electric Fans, Need HELP
>
>
> > For truly best results you should run a shroud on a stock fan
> > (preferably with an RV clutch fan - this will cycle at lower
> > temps and will spin faster than std clutches, plus clutch fans are
> > more forgiving when performing a water crossing.)
> >
> > Below are some FAQs from www.flex-a-lite.com that might be of use.
> > ********************
> > How much clearance do I need between my flex fan and radiator?
> > At very least 1" from the closest part of the fan to the radiator.
> > This inch allows for movement in your motor mounts, chassis flex,
and
> > of course flex in the fan
> >
> > When installing an electric fan how much of the radiator needs to
be
> > covered? We recommend 70% of the radiator core be covered.
> >
> > How important is it to have a shroud around my fan? Very, one of
the
> > properties of air is that it likes to follow the path of least
> > resistance. With a shroud you force the air to be drawn through
the
> > radiator instead of around it.
> >
> > How far should I put my fan into the shroud opening? As close to
half
> > in and half out as possible.
> >
> > Which type of electric fan is better, a pusher or puller? For
primary
> > use a puller. For auxiliary use a pusher
> > ***************
> >
> > I was having heating problems (still am, cannot afford the alum
rad
> > yet)in my FJ40 with a 350. Looked around and did some research,
here
> > are some other things I have found: For best results:
> >
> > Run a mechanically driven fan.
> >
> > Place the electric aux fan behind the rad, in front of the
mechanical
> > slightly "offset" to ensure that the clutch thermal coil has
airflow.
> > If no room put the largest possible fan in front of the rad.
> >
> > Run a fan shroud on the mechanical fan. (ducted fans draw more
air)
> >
> > Run a quality aluminum rad (griffin, or other - spend the money
how
> > much is the motor worth & how long of walk are you wanting to) the
> > aluminum radiator will buy you from 20% to 40% better cooling over
> > brass/copper.
> >
> > As to type of electric, when in pusher mode most fans are running
at
> > 80% efficiency (of what they would do in puller). Straight blades
> > move more air but are noisy.
> >
> > I have tried multiple varieties of electrics on my vehicles, the
one
> > I have had the best results in my Toy is the spal 16" high
> > performance in pusher mode even (front of Rad). It is rated at
2360
> > cfm - nice thing it is only 3.4" thick. The black magic was too
> > thick for my application. (plus it really is not designed to be
> > pusher (from flex-a-lite rep), go to checker at Gilbert and
Baseline
> > or other to look at the blade design, in pusher mode - blades
> > flipped -it looks like it need an additional 1" of clearance). The
> > only draw backs to the Spal that I have seen is that it is LOUD -
> > sounds like a high speed turbine and it needs a 30A circuit,
> > minimum. They use the Spal's in NASCAR and other racing.
> > You can find them on the web for between $130 to $180. Below are a
> > few places I have found them on sale: (FYI BeCool resales them and
> > are available through Summit but they are $$$$$)
> >
> > http://www.carolinarodshop.com/16spal1.htm - $133
> > http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/fan.htm - $149
> > http://www.wildhorses4x4.com/07.asp#spal - $149
> >
> > If you go spal, the brackets they come with amazingly stiff, once
it
> > is all tightened down.
> >
> > Best all-round advice, spend the money for the right parts the
first
> > time. Go with the aluminum radiator first, then electrics.
> >
> > Good Luck and be cool....
32102 From: Durham <bdurham@e...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 10:28pm
Subject: 8.25 yoke
I need a yoke for a Chrysler 8.25" rear axle. Anyone want to part with one?
durham
brian@d...
32103 From: <nickcarrie@h...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 0:36am
Subject: Exhaust for 4cly YJ
anybody got any experience with exhaust for a yj 4 cyl? I need to
get one soon and would like some input. what to buy-what not to buy
Jeep is 93, yj, 4cly.
tia.
Nick L.
32104 From: tom lafrance <tlafrance@j...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 7:31am
Subject: YJ power steering
Can anyone tell me when Jeep went to metric fittings on the power
steering box hose connections?
Thanks,
Tom LaFrance
32105 From: <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 8:09am
Subject: OT - Calling all Golphers, here is your OFFICIAL Invite
Ok, my apologies to your duffers out there for not inviting anyone to
play in the charity golf tournament.
Please accept this as your official invite to the tournament. If
there is enough interest maybe we can make a foursome or two
representing the AZVJC.
There is the info:
October 25th
ASU Karsten Golf Course
11:00a-5:00p
$99.00 per player
It sounds like John Butler and Mike Baney are interested, as would I
be. So please respond if you are interested to my work
email( radocccl@w... ) and I will see what we can put
together.
Chris R.
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32106 From: Blake Van de Loo <blake@m...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 8:25am
Subject: RE: OT - Calling all Golphers, here is your OFFICIAL Inv ite
Are you looking for Golfers or Gophers? Or a combination of the two.
-----Original Message-----
From: my1stjeep@e... [mailto:my1stjeep@e...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:09 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] OT - Calling all Golphers, here is your OFFICIAL
Invite
Ok, my apologies to your duffers out there for not inviting anyone to
play in the charity golf tournament.
Please accept this as your official invite to the tournament. If
there is enough interest maybe we can make a foursome or two
representing the AZVJC.
There is the info:
October 25th
ASU Karsten Golf Course
11:00a-5:00p
$99.00 per player
It sounds like John Butler and Mike Baney are interested, as would I
be. So please respond if you are interested to my work
email( radocccl@w... ) and I will see what we can put
together.
Chris R.
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32107 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 8:26am
Subject: Anybody know what an axle is worth?
Would anybody care to guess what a D35c from a TJ with an ARB & 3.73's would
be worth, reasonably? I wouldn't want to hang on to it long as I am hoping
it would help pay for some things when I put in the new (new to me) axle.
TIA
--James
32108 From: Jacobson, Thomas <Tjacobson@A...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 8:28am
Subject: Need East Valley Exhaust Shop
Hey Gang,
Am lookin for any recommendations for a shop in the East Valley that can
repair and replace a few exhaust system components on my Wrangler...and, uh,
do just a bit of light welding to uh, re-attach on of the mounting tabs
(don't ask, just a stupid driving move). I'm only looking to replace a
stock component - the pipe from the bottom of the exhaust manifold back to
the front of the cat - so don't need anything fancy. Anyone know of a shop
to get this done on the cheap???
Thanks,
Tom J.
'87 YJ 4.2L
32109 From: Blake Van de Loo <blake@m...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 8:28am
Subject: RE: Anybody know what an axle is worth?
I guess........$50 when should I pick it up? ;-)
Blake
-----Original Message-----
From: James Towle [mailto:James.Towle@a...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:27 AM
To: AZ_VJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Anybody know what an axle is worth?
Would anybody care to guess what a D35c from a TJ with an ARB & 3.73's would
be worth, reasonably? I wouldn't want to hang on to it long as I am hoping
it would help pay for some things when I put in the new (new to me) axle.
TIA
--James
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32110 From: <Mike@A...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 8:30am
Subject: Re: [TR] Florence Junction Area - Thursday, October 18, 2001
I plan on attending as well. I just sent my registration so I'm not
sure which trails I'm doing either.
I'll probably head out early Friday morning rather than Wheeling the
Table Mesa area trail (L. Terminator, I hope), heading back home to
Avondale, then all the way across town and out to Florence Jnct.
Maybe who ever is going out there first should get ahold of the AzVJC
banner and "claim" an area.
- Mike
32111 From: Eric Herring <herring@q...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 8:38am
Subject: RE: OT - Calling all Golphers, here is your OFFICIAL Invite
It's just like regular golf but you get to make your own holes ;-)
Eric Herring 92XJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Blake Van de Loo [mailto:blake@m...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:25 AM
To: 'my1stjeep@e...'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] OT - Calling all Golphers, here is your OFFICIAL
Invite
Are you looking for Golfers or Gophers? Or a combination of the two.
-----Original Message-----
From: my1stjeep@e... [mailto:my1stjeep@e...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:09 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] OT - Calling all Golphers, here is your OFFICIAL
Invite
Ok, my apologies to your duffers out there for not inviting anyone to
play in the charity golf tournament.
Please accept this as your official invite to the tournament. If
there is enough interest maybe we can make a foursome or two
representing the AZVJC.
There is the info:
October 25th
ASU Karsten Golf Course
11:00a-5:00p
$99.00 per player
It sounds like John Butler and Mike Baney are interested, as would I
be. So please respond if you are interested to my work
email( radocccl@w... ) and I will see what we can put
together.
Chris R.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
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32112 From: Eric Herring <herring@q...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 8:40am
Subject: RE: Need East Valley Exhaust Shop
I usually go to Mad Hatter.
Eric Herring 92XJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Jacobson, Thomas [mailto:Tjacobson@A...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:28 AM
To: 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [az_vjc] Need East Valley Exhaust Shop
Hey Gang,
Am lookin for any recommendations for a shop in the East Valley that can
repair and replace a few exhaust system components on my Wrangler...and, uh,
do just a bit of light welding to uh, re-attach on of the mounting tabs
(don't ask, just a stupid driving move). I'm only looking to replace a
stock component - the pipe from the bottom of the exhaust manifold back to
the front of the cat - so don't need anything fancy. Anyone know of a shop
to get this done on the cheap???
Thanks,
Tom J.
'87 YJ 4.2L
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32113 From: JW <joew@a...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 8:40am
Subject: RE: Re: Wheeling Damage
I think his best bet would be to say that it was stolen and then go run it
off the cliff at Martinez Canyon. <grin>
The cool thing about owning a Jeep is that everyone has their own idea of
the perfect Jeep... you start with a blank canvas and then start adding the
brush strokes... it's just that Dan accidently picked up a knife instead of
a paintbrush. <grin>
Dan... ever think of naming your Jeep Pigpen?
<laugh>
Kind Regards,
Joe West
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Towle [mailto:James.Towle@a...]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 5:14 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Wheeling Damage
>
>
>
> Did you ever think of claiming it on insurance? Maybe you can say all
> the damage happened at the same time. Man, that would be one heck of
> a story.
> Nah.... :)
>
> --James
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Dan Coley" <mt_b@y...> wrote:
> > I think I need a new sticker. Now I know why Sharky kept getting a
> > weird look on his face whenever metal hit the rocks.
> >
> > I wonder if I can buff out the scratches?....
> >
>
>
>
>
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> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
32114 From: Randall A. Mutter <ramaz@h...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 8:53am
Subject: RE: Need East Valley Exhaust Shop
Hi Tom
I just had the same thing replaced on my sons XJ at Mad Hatter (Broadway +
Gilbert) for $50.
RAM
Randall A. Mutter
ramaz@h... <mailto:ramaz@h...>
Thank goodness there are no 12 step programs for Jeeping...
-----Original Message-----
From: Jacobson, Thomas [mailto:Tjacobson@A...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:28 AM
To: 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [az_vjc] Need East Valley Exhaust Shop
Hey Gang,
Am lookin for any recommendations for a shop in the East Valley that can
repair and replace a few exhaust system components on my Wrangler...and, uh,
do just a bit of light welding to uh, re-attach on of the mounting tabs
(don't ask, just a stupid driving move). I'm only looking to replace a
stock component - the pipe from the bottom of the exhaust manifold back to
the front of the cat - so don't need anything fancy. Anyone know of a shop
to get this done on the cheap???
Thanks,
Tom J.
'87 YJ 4.2L
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32115 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 8:52am
Subject: TJ Engine Startup Issue
Ok, got a possible small problem, want to see if anyone else has
encountered it.
'00 TJ, 4cyl, no motor mods:
Start the jeep and at the instant that everything is running fine I
get a 1/4-1/2 second sound that is identical to the sound your
starter makes when you attempt to turn over an engine when it's
already running.
It only last about 1/2 second, and does not do it everytime, which is
making it difficult to diagnose. It's almost like my starter is
trying to keep starting the engine, even though it's already
running.
Motors aren't my speciality, so forgive me if the lingo is wrong.
Any ideas at all?
TIA
Dan
32116 From: <aphrodsyak@a...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 5:00am
Subject: Re: Re: Wheeling Damage
JUST Keep using the die grinder and cut the fender flares all the way back to the door frame. that'll get rid of it. OBviously it gets in the way.!!!
32117 From: Michael B. Wixom <mwixom@q...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 9:30am
Subject: Re: Need East Valley Exhaust Shop
A good friend of mine has an exhaust shop in the east valley. He has agreed
to offer club members a discount on any work. Just mention the AZVJC
Scottsdale Muffler
52nd Street & Thomas
602-957-1732
Ask For Chris McCurdy
Mike Wixom
85 CJ-7
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacobson, Thomas" <Tjacobson@A...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:28 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Need East Valley Exhaust Shop
> Hey Gang,
>
> Am lookin for any recommendations for a shop in the East Valley that can
> repair and replace a few exhaust system components on my Wrangler...and,
uh,
> do just a bit of light welding to uh, re-attach on of the mounting tabs
> (don't ask, just a stupid driving move). I'm only looking to replace a
> stock component - the pipe from the bottom of the exhaust manifold back to
> the front of the cat - so don't need anything fancy. Anyone know of a
shop
> to get this done on the cheap???
>
> Thanks,
> Tom J.
> '87 YJ 4.2L
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
32118 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 9:19am
Subject: RE: TJ Engine Startup Issue
You are probably right. It maybe the starter. I had a similar problem
that just got worse. The starter is vulnerable to dirt and water. I
attribute my starter's failure to being submersed. Although it took
awhile to go bad I am sure that was the start of it.
Actually before it was doing as you described, not disengaging, I
thought the battery was going dead and getting weak. It seemed like it
was really tough to start the engine, like a dying battery. Then the
starter would not let go of the fly wheel for a couple of seconds. When
I replaced the starter it was like I got a new battery too.
Also if I had the money I would have went to a Mean Green starter
http://www.mean-green.com/.
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Coley [mailto:mt_b@y...]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:52 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] TJ Engine Startup Issue
>
>
> Ok, got a possible small problem, want to see if anyone else has
> encountered it.
>
> '00 TJ, 4cyl, no motor mods:
> Start the jeep and at the instant that everything is running fine I
> get a 1/4-1/2 second sound that is identical to the sound your
> starter makes when you attempt to turn over an engine when it's
> already running.
>
> It only last about 1/2 second, and does not do it everytime, which is
> making it difficult to diagnose. It's almost like my starter is
> trying to keep starting the engine, even though it's already
> running.
>
> Motors aren't my speciality, so forgive me if the lingo is wrong.
>
> Any ideas at all?
>
> TIA
> Dan
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
32119 From: <aphrodsyak@a...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 5:29am
Subject: HELLO KIETH AUBLE
Keith please call me reguarding your rockkrawler kit.
ERIC 480-650-3887
32120 From: Jacobson, Thomas <Tjacobson@A...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 9:30am
Subject: RE: Need East Valley Exhaust Shop
Now that's more like it! I saw the tube could be ordered for about $36, yet
Midas was wanting like $150 to do the job!!!
Since they're very close, I'll try Mad Hatter first and then keep Mike W.'s
friend in mind if that don't work out.
Thanks everyone,
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: Randall A. Mutter [mailto:ramaz@h...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:54 AM
To: Jacobson, Thomas; Azvjc
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Need East Valley Exhaust Shop
Hi Tom
I just had the same thing replaced on my sons XJ at Mad Hatter (Broadway +
Gilbert) for $50.
RAM
Randall A. Mutter
ramaz@h... <mailto:ramaz@h...>
Thank goodness there are no 12 step programs for Jeeping...
-----Original Message-----
From: Jacobson, Thomas [mailto:Tjacobson@A...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:28 AM
To: 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [az_vjc] Need East Valley Exhaust Shop
Hey Gang,
Am lookin for any recommendations for a shop in the East Valley that can
repair and replace a few exhaust system components on my Wrangler...and, uh,
do just a bit of light welding to uh, re-attach on of the mounting tabs
(don't ask, just a stupid driving move). I'm only looking to replace a
stock component - the pipe from the bottom of the exhaust manifold back to
the front of the cat - so don't need anything fancy. Anyone know of a shop
to get this done on the cheap???
Thanks,
Tom J.
'87 YJ 4.2L
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32121 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 10:29am
Subject: [FS] WANTED: AXLES: Know where I can get any?
Price: OPEN
Contact: Matt 602-284-0414 mosgood@goprolink.com
I am in need of axles. Prefferably rear end, but I will need front and rear.
Dana 44/60, Ford 9", 14 bolt...
Please contact it you have anything, and/or know anyone/anywhere I can find them.
Thanks- Matt
Matt 602-284-0414 mosgood@goprolink.com
Matt Osgood
32122 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 10:47am
Subject: [FS] 2" PROCOMP LIFT FOR TJ
Price: $175.00 OBO $200 with disconnects
Contact: jason.laliberty@fairmont.com/ jaylalib@home.com
4 procomp coils springs and shocks for a TJ. No other hardware necessary to lift your jeep. Going to a higher lift.
Jason LaLiberty
32123 From: <kmichael02@y...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 11:49am
Subject: Re: [FS] WANTED: AXLES: Know where I can get any?
--- In az_vjc@y..., AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...> wrote:
>
I may be able to help you out...what are you going to do with all
this big stuff...if ya don't mind me asking?