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32074 From: <JNB4PLS@a...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 11:59am
Subject: Re: OT - But another postitive way to get out name out...
Chris, what the HELL! A golf tournament and you did not offer an invitation
for any of us golfers to come out and play? <Grin>
No issue here with the cause, just an issue with the lack of invitation.
John Butler
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32075 From: <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 4:24pm
Subject: Re: OT - But another postitive way to get out name out...
I'm with John, as long as his son doesn't play!
Mike Baney
--- In az_vjc@y..., JNB4PLS@a... wrote:
> Chris, what the HELL! A golf tournament and you did not offer an
invitation
> for any of us golfers to come out and play? <Grin>
>
> No issue here with the cause, just an issue with the lack of
invitation.
>
> John Butler
32076 From: <cmandrick@h...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 4:33pm
Subject: Re: Wheeling Damage
Holy ****! I thought the dents in my Jeep were cool, but yours take
the proverbial cake!
Chris M
87 YJ turd brown
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Dan Coley" <mt_b@y...> wrote:
> I think I need a new sticker. Now I know why Sharky kept getting a
> weird look on his face whenever metal hit the rocks.
>
> I wonder if I can buff out the scratches?....
>
>
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> Dan
32077 From: Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 4:34pm
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1254
Dan - you win. You have the most damage to a new Jeep. That's a 2000,
right. Listen, scratch the Jeep, but when you do in the decal I draw the
line. I'll send you a new one (of the old style) at no charge - send me
your address. Sheez - that's a sacrilege! LOL
Jon
At 10:58 PM 10/2/2001 +0000, you wrote:
> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 21:32:19 -0000
> From: "Dan Coley" <mt_b@y...>
>Subject: Wheeling Damage
>
>I think I need a new sticker. Now I know why Sharky kept getting a
>weird look on his face whenever metal hit the rocks.
>
>I wonder if I can buff out the scratches
32078 From: Greg Stapley <love24wheel@h...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 4:51pm
Subject: Re: failed emissions pictures of line tank to charcoal
I got that impression, while I sat there they took about 15 minutes to hook it up and then somehow screwed up the first because they interrupted it and then they had another tech come do it and so on and so forth for about 10 minutes and then they just waved me through and said I failed, I got the impression they did not want a line to form behind me., but better safe than sorry so here are the lines I saw from the charcoal canister, one ran down to the frame and then turned into a hard line and followed the frame and then just before the tank it turned back into a soft line and dissipeared under the tank, pictures are included.
Late,
Greg
>From: LDOCTOR1957@aol.com
>To: love24wheel@hotmail.com
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] failed emissions ( pressure test)
>Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 19:17:24 EDT
>
>Greg, they said my XJ failed the pressure test last year so I took it to the
>Texaco station on Bell and 19ave, they did their own test and said it was
>fine. I ran it back through emissions the next day and it passed. I believe
>they are testing for leaks in the fuel system.
> Jim Lambertus
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32079 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 5:13pm
Subject: Re: Wheeling Damage
Did you ever think of claiming it on insurance? Maybe you can say all
the damage happened at the same time. Man, that would be one heck of
a story.
Nah.... :)
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Dan Coley" <mt_b@y...> wrote:
> I think I need a new sticker. Now I know why Sharky kept getting a
> weird look on his face whenever metal hit the rocks.
>
> I wonder if I can buff out the scratches?....
>
32080 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 5:34pm
Subject: Re: Wheeling Damage
Then my insurance will go up, I'll have a "clean" jeep and then do it
all over again while paying more insurance. I think the fact that I
still have payments on it is bad enough! =)
--- In az_vjc@y..., "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
>
> Did you ever think of claiming it on insurance? Maybe you can say
all
> the damage happened at the same time. Man, that would be one heck
of
> a story.
> Nah.... :)
>
> --James
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Dan Coley" <mt_b@y...> wrote:
> > I think I need a new sticker. Now I know why Sharky kept getting
a
> > weird look on his face whenever metal hit the rocks.
> >
> > I wonder if I can buff out the scratches?....
> >
32081 From: <Jeep2Deep@c...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 1:52pm
Subject: Re: 4" supperlift question
I have/had the 4" Superlift kit and love/loved it. I still have the springs but have changed pretty much everything else. I would have left it alone but when I put in my 9" rear I went another 2" (spacers) and changed the arms. If you leave it at 4", you should be fine. I know most people like the RE or Tera kits but for a lift on a budget, you can't beat it. If you have a 5 speed, you shouldn't get any nasty vibes.
If you're curious to know what it looks like, mine is in the last Wheel Drive Hardware catalog. The catalog has a black TJ with Boggers on the cover and mine is the red TJ with the snorkel on pgs 5, 37 and the rear cover. It's also got a 2" body lift and the tires shown are 35's.
In closing, go for the Superlift. You won't regret it............plus you'll be able to show off to your buddies with their $2500 RE kits that you flex almost just as well with your $425.00 kit.
Joe Pollick
32082 From: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 6:25pm
Subject: Poll results for az_vjc
The following az_vjc poll is now closed. Here are the
final results:
POLL QUESTION: Change "timeout" period for Classifieds
on the AzVJC Website?
CHOICES AND RESULTS
- 30 Days (Leave as is), 10 votes, 76.92%
- 60 Days, 2 votes, 15.38%
- 90 Days, 1 votes, 7.69%
For more information about this group, please visit
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/az_vjc
For help with Yahoo! Groups, please visit
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/
32083 From: Steve Meyer <steve.j.meyer@h...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 6:33pm
Subject: Re: failed emissions ( pressure test)
Common problem on YJ's (don't know what kind of Jeep you have). On top of the tank, a seal develops a leak. You have to pull the tank and seal everything up real good. Had to do it with my 93.
--Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Stapley
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 3:34 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] failed emissions ( pressure test)
hey guys , just got back from emissions and passed the gas cap and the evap components but the pressure test it said I failed. Where is the problem? What can I do to fix the problem. Does anyone know what the actual pressure test is. If I knew what they were testing perhaps I could figure it out myself. thanks .
Late,
Greg
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32084 From: Lee Smith <smithly@n...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 6:43pm
Subject: AMC Motors For Sale
For Sale:
AMC 390LB, disassembled but all parts are there.
AMC 360LB, complete. Timing chain jumped gears.
No reasonable offer refused.
Write back if interested.
Lee Smith
Chandler, AZ
32085 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 6:51pm
Subject: RE: OT - But another postitive way to get out name out...
John,
You don't want to play no wussy golf game, hell man, you have a JEEP!
You want to play Jeep Polo (top off, doors off, polo mallet in left hand,
shotgun rider covers the right side of the vehicle....(auto trannys have the
upper edge in this sport)....of course, this is played BEST on a regular
golf course. Extra points obtained by crossing any water hazard without
using the winch or a tow strap!
Don't forget to honk your horn at the pedestrians....you lose points if you
run over the folks on foot! ;)
Stu
-----Original Message-----
From: JNB4PLS@a... [mailto:JNB4PLS@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 3:59 PM
To: my1stjeep@e...
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] OT - But another postitive way to get out name
out...
Chris, what the HELL! A golf tournament and you did not offer an invitation
for any of us golfers to come out and play? <Grin>
No issue here with the cause, just an issue with the lack of invitation.
John Butler
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32086 From: <kshields@p...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 6:58pm
Subject: Re: failed emissions ( pressure test)
This time to the group....
A friend had a 93 that failed the pressure test, there was a check
valve up by the fillerneck that had cracked. It was wrapped in foam,
or something similar. The check valve was in the lines that lead to
the canister. How we found his leak was to apply low pressure to the
tank (<5psi), after blocking off the line to the canister. To do this
used a blow-off nozzle and a rag in the filler neck. Then we could
hear the air leaking out on the valve. Just becarful with the gas
fumes and do not apply too much pressure!
The emmisions test is to see if the system can hold a 1psi (?)
pressure for 30 sec. (very low pressure).
Hope that helps.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Steve Meyer" <steve.j.meyer@h...> wrote:
> Common problem on YJ's (don't know what kind of Jeep you have). On
top of
> the tank, a seal develops a leak. You have to pull the tank and
seal
> everything up real good. Had to do it with my 93.
>
> --Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Greg Stapley
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 3:34 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] failed emissions ( pressure test)
>
>
> hey guys , just got back from emissions and passed the gas cap
and the
> evap components but the pressure test it said I failed. Where is
the
> problem? What can I do to fix the problem. Does anyone know what
the
> actual pressure test is. If I knew what they were testing perhaps
I could
> figure it out myself. thanks .
>
>
> Late,
> Greg
>
>
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32087 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 7:12pm
Subject: [TR] Florence Junction Area - Thursday, October 18, 2001
Hello All,
Jim Florence is leading a Florence Junction Area trail run on Thursday, October 18, 2001.
When: Starting October 18 through 21
Where: Florence Junction area
Rating: 2.0+
Length: 4 days
CB Channel: 4
Just wanted to see who else was going to go to the Jamboree. I will be going out Thursday night and setting up camp for the rest of the weekend. I have not gotten my registration back yet so I do not know waht runs I have. Look for a small coleman tent trailer with a club sticker on it. Oh and my stock YJ. Hope to see some others out there. Jim F.
Also known as the Arizona State Association of Four Wheel Drive Clubs (ASA4WDC) Jamboree site, the Florence Junction area offers a multitude of trails in varying degrees of difficulty. The variety of available trails is one reason the ASA4WDC has its annual Jamboree there.
There are trails for beginners in relatively stock vehicles like Foothills ,Martinez Cabin,Myers (Ajax) Loop,Pictograph Wash, andSunset point.
There are also a variety of Moderate trails like Ajax (Lower),Box Canyon,Coke Ovens,Flat Tire Canyon,Jack Handle, andOrville's Loop.
Then, of course, there are the Extreme trails likeAjax (Upper),Axle Alley,Highway To Hell,Jaw Breaker,Martinez Canyon,Woodpecker (Lower), andWoodpecker (Upper).
In addition to the trails named above, there a alot of unnamed trails, most of which are old mining roads. Please stay on existing trails and remember to TREAD LIGHTLY!
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
32088 From: Mike Beach <mikebeach2002@y...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 7:21pm
Subject: Any runs this weekend?
Finally I have the whole weekend off. Anyone want to
go out? Maybe the Table Mesa RD. area, something
inbetween the area of 3.5-4 trail. Let me know anyone
wants to go out
Mike
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32089 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 3:30pm
Subject: Re: Re: Wheeling Damage
Yeah Dan...just tell them that you were coming around a corner and swirved to miss a cow...who knows, it could happen hehehe
Sharky
32090 From: Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 7:41pm
Subject: RE: Wheeling Damage
Wow! Just when the rest of us thought your TJ couldn't possibly look any
rougher.
OUCH
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Coley [mailto:mt_b@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 2:32 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Wheeling Damage
I think I need a new sticker. Now I know why Sharky kept getting a
weird look on his face whenever metal hit the rocks.
I wonder if I can buff out the scratches?....
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Dan
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32091 From: <97tj@t...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 7:52pm
Subject: Pinion angle???
I have a 97 TJ with a 5.5" R/E lift. With my top off it is fine.
But when I put my hard top back on I get a vibration around 60 mph.
Where should I have my pinion pointed? Right now it is pointed
slightly below my T/C tail shaft. I have seen others that have them
pointed kind of high. Should it be pointed below or above the T/C
output shaft? Please, I need help!
Thank you, Thane Madrid
http://thane.team3.net/jeep/
32092 From: <ba914@a...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 4:06pm
Subject: Re: Pinion angle???
I WOULD BUY A SOFT TOP AND LEAVE IT AT THAT.
32093 From: Chris V <cvillarreal@q...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 8:25pm
Subject: Gila Monster
Anyone know how I can get a hold of Dave O Boyle? Tried his phone
number but it was disconnected. Was trying to get him to show myself
and a couple of friends Gila Monster and Cheap Trick this coming
Sunday.....
Chris
32094 From: Fred Wilson <fmw@q...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 8:39pm
Subject: Re: Pinion angle???
Do you have a SYE and CV driveshaft ??
:)
fred
----- Original Message -----
From: <97tj@t...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 7:52 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Pinion angle???
> I have a 97 TJ with a 5.5" R/E lift. With my top off it is fine.
> But when I put my hard top back on I get a vibration around 60 mph.
> Where should I have my pinion pointed? Right now it is pointed
> slightly below my T/C tail shaft. I have seen others that have them
> pointed kind of high. Should it be pointed below or above the T/C
> output shaft? Please, I need help!
> Thank you, Thane Madrid
> http://thane.team3.net/jeep/
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
32095 From: Steve Meyer <steve.j.meyer@h...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 9:17pm
Subject: Re: Pinion angle???
I take it that you are running a CV shaft. It sounds like you have it
pointed just right.
--Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: <97tj@t...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 7:52 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Pinion angle???
> I have a 97 TJ with a 5.5" R/E lift. With my top off it is fine.
> But when I put my hard top back on I get a vibration around 60 mph.
> Where should I have my pinion pointed? Right now it is pointed
> slightly below my T/C tail shaft. I have seen others that have them
> pointed kind of high. Should it be pointed below or above the T/C
> output shaft? Please, I need help!
> Thank you, Thane Madrid
> http://thane.team3.net/jeep/
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
32096 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 9:28pm
Subject: Re: Electric Fans, Need HELP
Below is info someone sent me off list. I don't believe he copied the list
too. So I have included a copy below for all to read. Really good
info..............
----------------------------
Jay Eller
http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <kshields@p...>
To: "Jay Eller" <jay@t...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: Electric Fans, Need HELP
> For truly best results you should run a shroud on a stock fan
> (preferably with an RV clutch fan - this will cycle at lower
> temps and will spin faster than std clutches, plus clutch fans are
> more forgiving when performing a water crossing.)
>
> Below are some FAQs from www.flex-a-lite.com that might be of use.
> ********************
> How much clearance do I need between my flex fan and radiator?
> At very least 1" from the closest part of the fan to the radiator.
> This inch allows for movement in your motor mounts, chassis flex, and
> of course flex in the fan
>
> When installing an electric fan how much of the radiator needs to be
> covered? We recommend 70% of the radiator core be covered.
>
> How important is it to have a shroud around my fan? Very, one of the
> properties of air is that it likes to follow the path of least
> resistance. With a shroud you force the air to be drawn through the
> radiator instead of around it.
>
> How far should I put my fan into the shroud opening? As close to half
> in and half out as possible.
>
> Which type of electric fan is better, a pusher or puller? For primary
> use a puller. For auxiliary use a pusher
> ***************
>
> I was having heating problems (still am, cannot afford the alum rad
> yet)in my FJ40 with a 350. Looked around and did some research, here
> are some other things I have found: For best results:
>
> Run a mechanically driven fan.
>
> Place the electric aux fan behind the rad, in front of the mechanical
> slightly "offset" to ensure that the clutch thermal coil has airflow.
> If no room put the largest possible fan in front of the rad.
>
> Run a fan shroud on the mechanical fan. (ducted fans draw more air)
>
> Run a quality aluminum rad (griffin, or other - spend the money how
> much is the motor worth & how long of walk are you wanting to) the
> aluminum radiator will buy you from 20% to 40% better cooling over
> brass/copper.
>
> As to type of electric, when in pusher mode most fans are running at
> 80% efficiency (of what they would do in puller). Straight blades
> move more air but are noisy.
>
> I have tried multiple varieties of electrics on my vehicles, the one
> I have had the best results in my Toy is the spal 16" high
> performance in pusher mode even (front of Rad). It is rated at 2360
> cfm - nice thing it is only 3.4" thick. The black magic was too
> thick for my application. (plus it really is not designed to be
> pusher (from flex-a-lite rep), go to checker at Gilbert and Baseline
> or other to look at the blade design, in pusher mode - blades
> flipped -it looks like it need an additional 1" of clearance). The
> only draw backs to the Spal that I have seen is that it is LOUD -
> sounds like a high speed turbine and it needs a 30A circuit,
> minimum. They use the Spal's in NASCAR and other racing.
> You can find them on the web for between $130 to $180. Below are a
> few places I have found them on sale: (FYI BeCool resales them and
> are available through Summit but they are $$$$$)
>
> http://www.carolinarodshop.com/16spal1.htm - $133
> http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/fan.htm - $149
> http://www.wildhorses4x4.com/07.asp#spal - $149
>
> If you go spal, the brackets they come with amazingly stiff, once it
> is all tightened down.
>
> Best all-round advice, spend the money for the right parts the first
> time. Go with the aluminum radiator first, then electrics.
>
> Good Luck and be cool....
32097 From: <97tj@t...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 9:49pm
Subject: Pinion Angle again ???
I have a CV drive shaft and a Dana 35 rear axle. Origanally I had
the 4.5" R/E springs with factory control arms. I ran it that way for
about a year, never had a vibration. Then I put on a set of R/E
adjustable control arms and now it virates with the Hard top on. I am
at a loss for what is going on under there! Can anyone tell me what
the nominal length the control arms should be. Front upper and
lowers, rear upper and lowers? Thanks to all who have given good
advice so far.
Thane Madrid
http://thane.team3.net/jeep/
32098 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 9:52pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Florence Junction Area - Thursday, October 18, 2001
Hi Jim,
Will be there on Thursday too! Look for the AirStream trailer. The Jeep
and flatbed will most likely be somewhere in the general vicinity. We
will be camping in the family camping area. A little quieter there.
Linda
AzVJC Website wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> Jim Florence is leading a Florence Junction Area trail run on
> Thursday, October 18, 2001.
>
> When: Starting October 18 through 21
> Where: Florence Junction area
> Rating: 2.0+
> Length: 4 days
> CB Channel: 4
>
> Just wanted to see who else was going to go to the Jamboree. I will be
> going out Thursday night and setting up camp for the rest of the
> weekend. I have not gotten my registration back yet so I do not know
> waht runs I have. Look for a small coleman tent trailer with a club
> sticker on it. Oh and my stock YJ. Hope to see some others out there.
> Jim F.
>
> Also known as the Arizona State Association of Four Wheel Drive Clubs
> (ASA4WDC) Jamboree site, the Florence Junction area offers a multitude
> of trails in varying degrees of difficulty. The variety of available
> trails is one reason the ASA4WDC has its annual Jamboree there.
>
> There are trails for beginners in relatively stock vehicles like
> Foothills ,Martinez Cabin,Myers (Ajax) Loop,Pictograph Wash, andSunset
> point.
>
> There are also a variety of Moderate trails like Ajax (Lower),Box
> Canyon,Coke Ovens,Flat Tire Canyon,Jack Handle, andOrville's Loop.
>
> Then, of course, there are the Extreme trails likeAjax (Upper),Axle
> Alley,Highway To Hell,Jaw Breaker,Martinez Canyon,Woodpecker (Lower),
> andWoodpecker (Upper).
>
> In addition to the trails named above, there a alot of unnamed trails,
> most of which are old mining roads. Please stay on existing trails and
> remember to TREAD LIGHTLY!
>
> Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
>
> Thank You,
>
> - The AzVJC Website
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
32074 From: <JNB4PLS@a...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 11:59am
Subject: Re: OT - But another postitive way to get out name out...
Chris, what the HELL! A golf tournament and you did not offer an invitation
for any of us golfers to come out and play? <Grin>
No issue here with the cause, just an issue with the lack of invitation.
John Butler
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32075 From: <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 4:24pm
Subject: Re: OT - But another postitive way to get out name out...
I'm with John, as long as his son doesn't play!
Mike Baney
--- In az_vjc@y..., JNB4PLS@a... wrote:
> Chris, what the HELL! A golf tournament and you did not offer an
invitation
> for any of us golfers to come out and play? <Grin>
>
> No issue here with the cause, just an issue with the lack of
invitation.
>
> John Butler
32076 From: <cmandrick@h...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 4:33pm
Subject: Re: Wheeling Damage
Holy ****! I thought the dents in my Jeep were cool, but yours take
the proverbial cake!
Chris M
87 YJ turd brown
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Dan Coley" <mt_b@y...> wrote:
> I think I need a new sticker. Now I know why Sharky kept getting a
> weird look on his face whenever metal hit the rocks.
>
> I wonder if I can buff out the scratches?....
>
>
http://imagep.webphotos.iwon.com//1000010491/1000010491_102200151658PM
> 0.3234783.jpg
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32077 From: Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 4:34pm
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1254
Dan - you win. You have the most damage to a new Jeep. That's a 2000,
right. Listen, scratch the Jeep, but when you do in the decal I draw the
line. I'll send you a new one (of the old style) at no charge - send me
your address. Sheez - that's a sacrilege! LOL
Jon
At 10:58 PM 10/2/2001 +0000, you wrote:
> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 21:32:19 -0000
> From: "Dan Coley" <mt_b@y...>
>Subject: Wheeling Damage
>
>I think I need a new sticker. Now I know why Sharky kept getting a
>weird look on his face whenever metal hit the rocks.
>
>I wonder if I can buff out the scratches
32078 From: Greg Stapley <love24wheel@h...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 4:51pm
Subject: Re: failed emissions pictures of line tank to charcoal
I got that impression, while I sat there they took about 15 minutes to hook it up and then somehow screwed up the first because they interrupted it and then they had another tech come do it and so on and so forth for about 10 minutes and then they just waved me through and said I failed, I got the impression they did not want a line to form behind me., but better safe than sorry so here are the lines I saw from the charcoal canister, one ran down to the frame and then turned into a hard line and followed the frame and then just before the tank it turned back into a soft line and dissipeared under the tank, pictures are included.
Late,
Greg
>From: LDOCTOR1957@aol.com
>To: love24wheel@hotmail.com
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] failed emissions ( pressure test)
>Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 19:17:24 EDT
>
>Greg, they said my XJ failed the pressure test last year so I took it to the
>Texaco station on Bell and 19ave, they did their own test and said it was
>fine. I ran it back through emissions the next day and it passed. I believe
>they are testing for leaks in the fuel system.
> Jim Lambertus
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32079 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 5:13pm
Subject: Re: Wheeling Damage
Did you ever think of claiming it on insurance? Maybe you can say all
the damage happened at the same time. Man, that would be one heck of
a story.
Nah.... :)
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Dan Coley" <mt_b@y...> wrote:
> I think I need a new sticker. Now I know why Sharky kept getting a
> weird look on his face whenever metal hit the rocks.
>
> I wonder if I can buff out the scratches?....
>
32080 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 5:34pm
Subject: Re: Wheeling Damage
Then my insurance will go up, I'll have a "clean" jeep and then do it
all over again while paying more insurance. I think the fact that I
still have payments on it is bad enough! =)
--- In az_vjc@y..., "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
>
> Did you ever think of claiming it on insurance? Maybe you can say
all
> the damage happened at the same time. Man, that would be one heck
of
> a story.
> Nah.... :)
>
> --James
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Dan Coley" <mt_b@y...> wrote:
> > I think I need a new sticker. Now I know why Sharky kept getting
a
> > weird look on his face whenever metal hit the rocks.
> >
> > I wonder if I can buff out the scratches?....
> >
32081 From: <Jeep2Deep@c...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 1:52pm
Subject: Re: 4" supperlift question
I have/had the 4" Superlift kit and love/loved it. I still have the springs but have changed pretty much everything else. I would have left it alone but when I put in my 9" rear I went another 2" (spacers) and changed the arms. If you leave it at 4", you should be fine. I know most people like the RE or Tera kits but for a lift on a budget, you can't beat it. If you have a 5 speed, you shouldn't get any nasty vibes.
If you're curious to know what it looks like, mine is in the last Wheel Drive Hardware catalog. The catalog has a black TJ with Boggers on the cover and mine is the red TJ with the snorkel on pgs 5, 37 and the rear cover. It's also got a 2" body lift and the tires shown are 35's.
In closing, go for the Superlift. You won't regret it............plus you'll be able to show off to your buddies with their $2500 RE kits that you flex almost just as well with your $425.00 kit.
Joe Pollick
32082 From: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 6:25pm
Subject: Poll results for az_vjc
The following az_vjc poll is now closed. Here are the
final results:
POLL QUESTION: Change "timeout" period for Classifieds
on the AzVJC Website?
CHOICES AND RESULTS
- 30 Days (Leave as is), 10 votes, 76.92%
- 60 Days, 2 votes, 15.38%
- 90 Days, 1 votes, 7.69%
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32083 From: Steve Meyer <steve.j.meyer@h...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 6:33pm
Subject: Re: failed emissions ( pressure test)
Common problem on YJ's (don't know what kind of Jeep you have). On top of the tank, a seal develops a leak. You have to pull the tank and seal everything up real good. Had to do it with my 93.
--Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Stapley
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 3:34 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] failed emissions ( pressure test)
hey guys , just got back from emissions and passed the gas cap and the evap components but the pressure test it said I failed. Where is the problem? What can I do to fix the problem. Does anyone know what the actual pressure test is. If I knew what they were testing perhaps I could figure it out myself. thanks .
Late,
Greg
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32084 From: Lee Smith <smithly@n...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 6:43pm
Subject: AMC Motors For Sale
For Sale:
AMC 390LB, disassembled but all parts are there.
AMC 360LB, complete. Timing chain jumped gears.
No reasonable offer refused.
Write back if interested.
Lee Smith
Chandler, AZ
32085 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 6:51pm
Subject: RE: OT - But another postitive way to get out name out...
John,
You don't want to play no wussy golf game, hell man, you have a JEEP!
You want to play Jeep Polo (top off, doors off, polo mallet in left hand,
shotgun rider covers the right side of the vehicle....(auto trannys have the
upper edge in this sport)....of course, this is played BEST on a regular
golf course. Extra points obtained by crossing any water hazard without
using the winch or a tow strap!
Don't forget to honk your horn at the pedestrians....you lose points if you
run over the folks on foot! ;)
Stu
-----Original Message-----
From: JNB4PLS@a... [mailto:JNB4PLS@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 3:59 PM
To: my1stjeep@e...
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] OT - But another postitive way to get out name
out...
Chris, what the HELL! A golf tournament and you did not offer an invitation
for any of us golfers to come out and play? <Grin>
No issue here with the cause, just an issue with the lack of invitation.
John Butler
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32086 From: <kshields@p...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 6:58pm
Subject: Re: failed emissions ( pressure test)
This time to the group....
A friend had a 93 that failed the pressure test, there was a check
valve up by the fillerneck that had cracked. It was wrapped in foam,
or something similar. The check valve was in the lines that lead to
the canister. How we found his leak was to apply low pressure to the
tank (<5psi), after blocking off the line to the canister. To do this
used a blow-off nozzle and a rag in the filler neck. Then we could
hear the air leaking out on the valve. Just becarful with the gas
fumes and do not apply too much pressure!
The emmisions test is to see if the system can hold a 1psi (?)
pressure for 30 sec. (very low pressure).
Hope that helps.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Steve Meyer" <steve.j.meyer@h...> wrote:
> Common problem on YJ's (don't know what kind of Jeep you have). On
top of
> the tank, a seal develops a leak. You have to pull the tank and
seal
> everything up real good. Had to do it with my 93.
>
> --Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Greg Stapley
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 3:34 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] failed emissions ( pressure test)
>
>
> hey guys , just got back from emissions and passed the gas cap
and the
> evap components but the pressure test it said I failed. Where is
the
> problem? What can I do to fix the problem. Does anyone know what
the
> actual pressure test is. If I knew what they were testing perhaps
I could
> figure it out myself. thanks .
>
>
> Late,
> Greg
>
>
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32087 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 7:12pm
Subject: [TR] Florence Junction Area - Thursday, October 18, 2001
Hello All,
Jim Florence is leading a Florence Junction Area trail run on Thursday, October 18, 2001.
When: Starting October 18 through 21
Where: Florence Junction area
Rating: 2.0+
Length: 4 days
CB Channel: 4
Just wanted to see who else was going to go to the Jamboree. I will be going out Thursday night and setting up camp for the rest of the weekend. I have not gotten my registration back yet so I do not know waht runs I have. Look for a small coleman tent trailer with a club sticker on it. Oh and my stock YJ. Hope to see some others out there. Jim F.
Also known as the Arizona State Association of Four Wheel Drive Clubs (ASA4WDC) Jamboree site, the Florence Junction area offers a multitude of trails in varying degrees of difficulty. The variety of available trails is one reason the ASA4WDC has its annual Jamboree there.
There are trails for beginners in relatively stock vehicles like Foothills ,Martinez Cabin,Myers (Ajax) Loop,Pictograph Wash, andSunset point.
There are also a variety of Moderate trails like Ajax (Lower),Box Canyon,Coke Ovens,Flat Tire Canyon,Jack Handle, andOrville's Loop.
Then, of course, there are the Extreme trails likeAjax (Upper),Axle Alley,Highway To Hell,Jaw Breaker,Martinez Canyon,Woodpecker (Lower), andWoodpecker (Upper).
In addition to the trails named above, there a alot of unnamed trails, most of which are old mining roads. Please stay on existing trails and remember to TREAD LIGHTLY!
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
32088 From: Mike Beach <mikebeach2002@y...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 7:21pm
Subject: Any runs this weekend?
Finally I have the whole weekend off. Anyone want to
go out? Maybe the Table Mesa RD. area, something
inbetween the area of 3.5-4 trail. Let me know anyone
wants to go out
Mike
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32089 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 3:30pm
Subject: Re: Re: Wheeling Damage
Yeah Dan...just tell them that you were coming around a corner and swirved to miss a cow...who knows, it could happen hehehe
Sharky
32090 From: Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 7:41pm
Subject: RE: Wheeling Damage
Wow! Just when the rest of us thought your TJ couldn't possibly look any
rougher.
OUCH
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Coley [mailto:mt_b@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 2:32 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Wheeling Damage
I think I need a new sticker. Now I know why Sharky kept getting a
weird look on his face whenever metal hit the rocks.
I wonder if I can buff out the scratches?....
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Dan
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32091 From: <97tj@t...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 7:52pm
Subject: Pinion angle???
I have a 97 TJ with a 5.5" R/E lift. With my top off it is fine.
But when I put my hard top back on I get a vibration around 60 mph.
Where should I have my pinion pointed? Right now it is pointed
slightly below my T/C tail shaft. I have seen others that have them
pointed kind of high. Should it be pointed below or above the T/C
output shaft? Please, I need help!
Thank you, Thane Madrid
http://thane.team3.net/jeep/
32092 From: <ba914@a...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 4:06pm
Subject: Re: Pinion angle???
I WOULD BUY A SOFT TOP AND LEAVE IT AT THAT.
32093 From: Chris V <cvillarreal@q...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 8:25pm
Subject: Gila Monster
Anyone know how I can get a hold of Dave O Boyle? Tried his phone
number but it was disconnected. Was trying to get him to show myself
and a couple of friends Gila Monster and Cheap Trick this coming
Sunday.....
Chris
32094 From: Fred Wilson <fmw@q...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 8:39pm
Subject: Re: Pinion angle???
Do you have a SYE and CV driveshaft ??
:)
fred
----- Original Message -----
From: <97tj@t...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 7:52 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Pinion angle???
> I have a 97 TJ with a 5.5" R/E lift. With my top off it is fine.
> But when I put my hard top back on I get a vibration around 60 mph.
> Where should I have my pinion pointed? Right now it is pointed
> slightly below my T/C tail shaft. I have seen others that have them
> pointed kind of high. Should it be pointed below or above the T/C
> output shaft? Please, I need help!
> Thank you, Thane Madrid
> http://thane.team3.net/jeep/
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
32095 From: Steve Meyer <steve.j.meyer@h...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 9:17pm
Subject: Re: Pinion angle???
I take it that you are running a CV shaft. It sounds like you have it
pointed just right.
--Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: <97tj@t...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 7:52 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Pinion angle???
> I have a 97 TJ with a 5.5" R/E lift. With my top off it is fine.
> But when I put my hard top back on I get a vibration around 60 mph.
> Where should I have my pinion pointed? Right now it is pointed
> slightly below my T/C tail shaft. I have seen others that have them
> pointed kind of high. Should it be pointed below or above the T/C
> output shaft? Please, I need help!
> Thank you, Thane Madrid
> http://thane.team3.net/jeep/
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
32096 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 9:28pm
Subject: Re: Electric Fans, Need HELP
Below is info someone sent me off list. I don't believe he copied the list
too. So I have included a copy below for all to read. Really good
info..............
----------------------------
Jay Eller
http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <kshields@p...>
To: "Jay Eller" <jay@t...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: Electric Fans, Need HELP
> For truly best results you should run a shroud on a stock fan
> (preferably with an RV clutch fan - this will cycle at lower
> temps and will spin faster than std clutches, plus clutch fans are
> more forgiving when performing a water crossing.)
>
> Below are some FAQs from www.flex-a-lite.com that might be of use.
> ********************
> How much clearance do I need between my flex fan and radiator?
> At very least 1" from the closest part of the fan to the radiator.
> This inch allows for movement in your motor mounts, chassis flex, and
> of course flex in the fan
>
> When installing an electric fan how much of the radiator needs to be
> covered? We recommend 70% of the radiator core be covered.
>
> How important is it to have a shroud around my fan? Very, one of the
> properties of air is that it likes to follow the path of least
> resistance. With a shroud you force the air to be drawn through the
> radiator instead of around it.
>
> How far should I put my fan into the shroud opening? As close to half
> in and half out as possible.
>
> Which type of electric fan is better, a pusher or puller? For primary
> use a puller. For auxiliary use a pusher
> ***************
>
> I was having heating problems (still am, cannot afford the alum rad
> yet)in my FJ40 with a 350. Looked around and did some research, here
> are some other things I have found: For best results:
>
> Run a mechanically driven fan.
>
> Place the electric aux fan behind the rad, in front of the mechanical
> slightly "offset" to ensure that the clutch thermal coil has airflow.
> If no room put the largest possible fan in front of the rad.
>
> Run a fan shroud on the mechanical fan. (ducted fans draw more air)
>
> Run a quality aluminum rad (griffin, or other - spend the money how
> much is the motor worth & how long of walk are you wanting to) the
> aluminum radiator will buy you from 20% to 40% better cooling over
> brass/copper.
>
> As to type of electric, when in pusher mode most fans are running at
> 80% efficiency (of what they would do in puller). Straight blades
> move more air but are noisy.
>
> I have tried multiple varieties of electrics on my vehicles, the one
> I have had the best results in my Toy is the spal 16" high
> performance in pusher mode even (front of Rad). It is rated at 2360
> cfm - nice thing it is only 3.4" thick. The black magic was too
> thick for my application. (plus it really is not designed to be
> pusher (from flex-a-lite rep), go to checker at Gilbert and Baseline
> or other to look at the blade design, in pusher mode - blades
> flipped -it looks like it need an additional 1" of clearance). The
> only draw backs to the Spal that I have seen is that it is LOUD -
> sounds like a high speed turbine and it needs a 30A circuit,
> minimum. They use the Spal's in NASCAR and other racing.
> You can find them on the web for between $130 to $180. Below are a
> few places I have found them on sale: (FYI BeCool resales them and
> are available through Summit but they are $$$$$)
>
> http://www.carolinarodshop.com/16spal1.htm - $133
> http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/fan.htm - $149
> http://www.wildhorses4x4.com/07.asp#spal - $149
>
> If you go spal, the brackets they come with amazingly stiff, once it
> is all tightened down.
>
> Best all-round advice, spend the money for the right parts the first
> time. Go with the aluminum radiator first, then electrics.
>
> Good Luck and be cool....
32097 From: <97tj@t...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 9:49pm
Subject: Pinion Angle again ???
I have a CV drive shaft and a Dana 35 rear axle. Origanally I had
the 4.5" R/E springs with factory control arms. I ran it that way for
about a year, never had a vibration. Then I put on a set of R/E
adjustable control arms and now it virates with the Hard top on. I am
at a loss for what is going on under there! Can anyone tell me what
the nominal length the control arms should be. Front upper and
lowers, rear upper and lowers? Thanks to all who have given good
advice so far.
Thane Madrid
http://thane.team3.net/jeep/
32098 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 9:52pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Florence Junction Area - Thursday, October 18, 2001
Hi Jim,
Will be there on Thursday too! Look for the AirStream trailer. The Jeep
and flatbed will most likely be somewhere in the general vicinity. We
will be camping in the family camping area. A little quieter there.
Linda
AzVJC Website wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> Jim Florence is leading a Florence Junction Area trail run on
> Thursday, October 18, 2001.
>
> When: Starting October 18 through 21
> Where: Florence Junction area
> Rating: 2.0+
> Length: 4 days
> CB Channel: 4
>
> Just wanted to see who else was going to go to the Jamboree. I will be
> going out Thursday night and setting up camp for the rest of the
> weekend. I have not gotten my registration back yet so I do not know
> waht runs I have. Look for a small coleman tent trailer with a club
> sticker on it. Oh and my stock YJ. Hope to see some others out there.
> Jim F.
>
> Also known as the Arizona State Association of Four Wheel Drive Clubs
> (ASA4WDC) Jamboree site, the Florence Junction area offers a multitude
> of trails in varying degrees of difficulty. The variety of available
> trails is one reason the ASA4WDC has its annual Jamboree there.
>
> There are trails for beginners in relatively stock vehicles like
> Foothills ,Martinez Cabin,Myers (Ajax) Loop,Pictograph Wash, andSunset
> point.
>
> There are also a variety of Moderate trails like Ajax (Lower),Box
> Canyon,Coke Ovens,Flat Tire Canyon,Jack Handle, andOrville's Loop.
>
> Then, of course, there are the Extreme trails likeAjax (Upper),Axle
> Alley,Highway To Hell,Jaw Breaker,Martinez Canyon,Woodpecker (Lower),
> andWoodpecker (Upper).
>
> In addition to the trails named above, there a alot of unnamed trails,
> most of which are old mining roads. Please stay on existing trails and
> remember to TREAD LIGHTLY!
>
> Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
>
> Thank You,
>
> - The AzVJC Website
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.