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31999 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 6:29pm
Subject: Driveshaft work
Hey Guys,
I was just wondering where a good place would be to get my front driveshaft lengthened, After I sprung it over the slip part is already extended about 3/4 of the way, not good. TIA
Scott "Iron" Maiden
93 Green YJ SOA
01 GSX-R 750....o~`o
http://www.scottmaiden.gixxer.com
bermboy@hotmail.com
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32000 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 6:45pm
Subject: RE: CB antenna question
Chris,
There are a number of crappy ones made, but if you want a good one, it will
run you about $20.
That being said, it is made by Hustler (a very reputable antenna company
that has been around for a long time). I got mine at the local Ham Radio
Outlet store in Phoenix. www.hamradio.com You will want the "HUSTLER QD-2,
QUICK DISCONNECT $19.95" model.
You can see mine at http://www.stu-offroad.com/cb/cb_install-2.htm
Yell if you need something else.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 6:05 PM
To: Virtual Jeep Club
Subject: [az_vjc] CB antenna question
Who makes a good quality quick-disconnect for the firestik antenna and where
can I get one locally? I want to go back to my 3 foot firestik and I would
break it off trying to get in my garage.
Chris K
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32001 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 6:41pm
Subject: [FS] JEEP BLACK HARD HALF DOORS!
Price: $400.00 or best offer!
Contact: offroadsundevil5@aol.com or asuevsundevil5@yahoo.com
Never used black hard half doors with new hinges and new steel horse mirros!
32002 From: James Smith <jeepinsmitty@y...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 6:52pm
Subject: Re: Good Parts...
Michael,
Did you happen to ask how much they wanted for these?
Thanks,
Smitty
--- Michael <msmith658@y...> wrote:
> For those who are interested,
>
> I was out at Ecology Auto Parts (wrecking yard on
> 27th ave, south of Van Buren) this past weekend and
> saw quite a few vehicles with Dana 44 fronts
> (wagoneers), Dana 44 rears (wagoneers, and other
> trucks, one postal jeep - narrow, about 46"),
> several Dana 60 rears... including a Dodge
> Ramcharger with a Dana 44 front and a Dana 60 rear.
>
>
> Michael
>
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32003 From: Rodney Neiman <rodney49@e...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 7:02pm
Subject: FR 42
Had a great time. Thanks to Jon for leading and Allen for providing the excitement.
--- Rodney Neiman
--- rodney49@earthlink.net
--- EarthLink: It's your Internet.
32004 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 7:18pm
Subject: [FS] '91 Wrangler Stock Rims
Price: give me an offer
Contact: offroadsundevil5@aol.com
I have 4 used stock jeep rims for sale. Also I have the spare tire with the 5th stock rim, the size of the tire is 29 x 12.50
32005 From: Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 7:42pm
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1250
Chris - I run ProComp Muds 35x12.5. They have been great. I have about 8K
on them and have not had a recent problem. After my first run with them
(U/L Woodpecker and U/L Ajax) I had what they called stress cracks on one
tire. I had to 'buy' a replacement and send the original back to ProComp.
They honored the cracks saying it shouldn't have happened that soon and
gave me 100% refund on the tire I purchased. I did all this through OffRoad
Unlimited in Scottsdale (Mark) and they were great about it. I bought the
tires from them originally in a buy 3 get the 4th free deal last year. They
are very quiet on the road and grab off road. I would get another set.
Jon
At 12:22 AM 10/2/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 17:24:15 -0700
> From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
>Subject: Pro Comp tires?
>
>Are ProComp tires available locally? For those who have ordered them, what
>have you done for warranty replacements?
>
>I'd really love some of the new BFG MT KMs, but I think the price is going
>to be prohibitive.
>
>Chris K
>1997 Jeep TJ (with tiny tires)
>My TJ Website:
>http://members.home.net/rv6a/jeeptjsite.html
32006 From: <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 7:56pm
Subject: FS: TJ Hardtop and Doors
Jason D. is selling his 2000 TJ Grey full steel doors and the Black
Hard top. He has hardly had the top on, he usually just has the soft
top on it. If you want to see them, they are sitting up at the Fly-N-
Hi out on Country Club. If interested let me know!!! -Rob
g_rob_williams@y...
32007 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 8:06pm
Subject: Re: CB antenna question
Thanks Stu. This is what I'm looking for. I definately do not want a crappy
one and $20 seems very reasonable for this.
Thanks again,
Chris
> From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 18:45:14 -0700
> To: "Chris Krieg" <rv6a@m...>, "Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] CB antenna question
>
> Chris,
>
> There are a number of crappy ones made, but if you want a good one, it will
> run you about $20.
>
> That being said, it is made by Hustler (a very reputable antenna company
> that has been around for a long time). I got mine at the local Ham Radio
> Outlet store in Phoenix. www.hamradio.com You will want the "HUSTLER QD-2,
> QUICK DISCONNECT $19.95" model.
>
> You can see mine at http://www.stu-offroad.com/cb/cb_install-2.htm
>
> Yell if you need something else.
>
> Stu
>
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 6:05 PM
> To: Virtual Jeep Club
> Subject: [az_vjc] CB antenna question
>
>
> Who makes a good quality quick-disconnect for the firestik antenna and where
> can I get one locally? I want to go back to my 3 foot firestik and I would
> break it off trying to get in my garage.
>
> Chris K
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
32008 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 8:34pm
Subject: Re: Driveshaft work
Does anyone know about what it runs to have the front shaft lengthened about 2"?
BTW Thanks For the bumper James.
Scott "Iron" Maiden
93 Green YJ SOA
01 GSX-R 750....o~`o
http://www.scottmaiden.gixxer.com
bermboy@hotmail.com
>From: "James Towle"
>To: "Scott Maiden"
>Subject: Re: Driveshaft work
>Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 03:00:33 -0000
>
>
>Dick's Driveline (or Driveshaft) will give you a AZVJC discount and
>they have been real good to me. They are worth the drive, I think
>they are at Indian School & 4? Street.
>
>--James
>
>--- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Maiden" wrote:
> >
>
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32009 From: Steve Meyer <steve.j.meyer@h...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 8:36pm
Subject: Re: Re: Driveshaft work
Doh...forgot to copy the list.
--Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Meyer
To: Scott Maiden
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Driveshaft work
I thought they were on Washington. Yeah, they are known for giving killer deals. They gave me the "Steve's Auto Parts" discount... ;-)
--Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Maiden
To: James.Towle@asu.edu ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:34 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Driveshaft work
Does anyone know about what it runs to have the front shaft lengthened about 2"?
BTW Thanks For the bumper James.
Scott "Iron" Maiden
93 Green YJ SOA
01 GSX-R 750....o~`o
http://www.scottmaiden.gixxer.com
bermboy@hotmail.com
>From: "James Towle"
>To: "Scott Maiden"
>Subject: Re: Driveshaft work
>Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 03:00:33 -0000
>
>
>Dick's Driveline (or Driveshaft) will give you a AZVJC discount and
>they have been real good to me. They are worth the drive, I think
>they are at Indian School & 4? Street.
>
>--James
>
>--- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Maiden" wrote:
> >
>
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32010 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 8:48pm
Subject: Re: Re: Driveshaft work
Dick's usually charges around $100 to lengthen a shaft (has to be totally retubed). At least that is what they charged me.
And remember........"they don't take American Express" (or VISA or M/C or Diners or Anything!) Just cold hard cash! Why.....I don't know. Must look better on the books that way. :-) But seriously, they do good work and have great to deal with in the past. Just be sure to have cash. No plastic accepted there.
----------------------------
Jay Eller
http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Maiden
To: James.Towle@asu.edu ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:34 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Driveshaft work
Does anyone know about what it runs to have the front shaft lengthened about 2"?
BTW Thanks For the bumper James.
Scott "Iron" Maiden
93 Green YJ SOA
01 GSX-R 750....o~`o
http://www.scottmaiden.gixxer.com
bermboy@hotmail.com
>From: "James Towle"
>To: "Scott Maiden"
>Subject: Re: Driveshaft work
>Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 03:00:33 -0000
>
>
>Dick's Driveline (or Driveshaft) will give you a AZVJC discount and
>they have been real good to me. They are worth the drive, I think
>they are at Indian School & 4? Street.
>
>--James
>
>--- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Maiden" wrote:
> >
>
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32011 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 9:02pm
Subject: Re: Re: Driveshaft work
Well, With about 8 inches of suspension lift do you all think I would be ok with a lengthened shaft or should I just pony up for an CV up front also? TIA oh and where exactly is Dick's? I have about three different streets so far:P
Scott "Iron" Maiden
93 Green YJ SOA
01 GSX-R 750....o~`o
http://www.scottmaiden.gixxer.com
bermboy@hotmail.com
>From: "Jay Eller"
>To: , , "Scott Maiden"
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Driveshaft work
>Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 20:48:52 -0700
>
>Dick's usually charges around $100 to lengthen a shaft (has to be totally retubed). At least that is what they charged me.
>
>And remember........"they don't take American Express" (or VISA or M/C or Diners or Anything!) Just cold hard cash! Why.....I don't know. Must look better on the books that way. :-) But seriously, they do good work and have great to deal with in the past. Just be sure to have cash. No plastic accepted there.
>----------------------------
>Jay Eller
>http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott Maiden
> To: James.Towle@asu.edu ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:34 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Driveshaft work
>
>
>
> Does anyone know about what it runs to have the front shaft lengthened about 2"?
>
> BTW Thanks For the bumper James.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Scott "Iron" Maiden
> 93 Green YJ SOA
> 01 GSX-R 750....o~`o
> http://www.scottmaiden.gixxer.com
> bermboy@hotmail.com
> >From: "James Towle"
> >To: "Scott Maiden"
> >Subject: Re: Driveshaft work
> >Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 03:00:33 -0000
> >
> >
> >Dick's Driveline (or Driveshaft) will give you a AZVJC discount and
> >they have been real good to me. They are worth the drive, I think
> >they are at Indian School & 4? Street.
> >
> >--James
> >
> >--- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Maiden" wrote:
> > >
> >
>
>
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32012 From: Tom Patterson <trpsys@q...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 9:10pm
Subject: Re: Parker
DougB,
I’m going with a couple of friend from Casa Grande and Phoenix. We will
probable leave early Friday 9 and will camp at La Paz County Park.
Tom Patterson
DougB wrote:
> Who's going to Desert Splash?? It's Nov 10-11. Just sent in my registration.
>
> For those that haven't done some of the trails round Parker, it's great
> wheelin!!
>
> Doug
>
>
>
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32013 From: <joeclarkin@y...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 9:48am
Subject: Re: '01 Check Engine Light
About a zillion things can cause a check engine light. From what I've
read, as long as it is solid (not blinking), it isn't that big a
deal.
I would bring it in to the dealer. I had to do that on my '98 and
they flashed the engine computer ROM. Almost anything that causes
this should be warenteed. I had good luck with Earnhardt's, but
almost everyone I talk to hates the place. I only have a mild rig (2"
lift, 31" tires and lots of skid plates) so maybe the are hard asses
when it comes to more built rigs.
Sensors could cause this. If it is the O2 sensors, they should
replace them with no trouble.
The TPS and CPS could also cause this. The TPS in particular used to
go bad due to water. They added an O ring to fix this problem. You
could try disconnecting and reconnecting these sensors as even a
little corrosion on the connector can cause these to give bad
readings. Unless your engine is mud covered, I would expect them to
replace these for free.
Engine (coolent) temp out of range can also cause the light to go on.
Problems with the evap system can cause this too. This would be the
gas cap, maybe the roll over valve, fuel pump (maybe), charcoal
cannister, vacuum leak etc.
Off hand I can't think of anything else, maybe the knock sensor could
cause this too, I don't know.
BTW -- what is your "key trick". I know the on-off-on-off-on thing
doesn't work in my '98. I read of another key trick (something like
holding the odo button down when starting), but I forgot the method
and lost the page.
32014 From: Kim Monson <MOMSBUMBLEBEE@h...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 1:15pm
Subject: I get to keep her!!!!! NOW.....
Ok, this has been a issue for some time now but it's been solved and I get
to keep my 4th child...MY JEEP!!! Now, for the questions to begin. I know
the first step in the lift....who, what, how high before I get into trouble
with the warrenty, and how much should I expect to pay???? Also, last week,
someone was asking about flag stickers. Now that I get to keep her, I get to
decorate her. <smile> Can anyone tell me where to find flag decals????
Thanks.
Kim
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32015 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 9:39pm
Subject: Re: '01 Check Engine Light
Well I unhooked the battery cable for a few minutes, and now the
light is off, so I guess all is well.
Hold down the odo. button and turn the ignition to on, then off 3
times and it will go through the gauges check, then show a code if
there is something wrong. I've read some of them will flash a
number, but mine would flash something (can't remember) a certain
number of times representing the digits of the codes. i.e. two
flashes = 2, then a pause then 5 flashes = 5....25
I've heard/read than only the 97s do this, but mine's a 2000 and does
it...however that was after I submerged it under water, so that may
have something to do with it.
--- In az_vjc@y..., joeclarkin@y... wrote:
> About a zillion things can cause a check engine light. From what
I've
> read, as long as it is solid (not blinking), it isn't that big a
> deal.
>
>
> I would bring it in to the dealer. I had to do that on my '98 and
> they flashed the engine computer ROM. Almost anything that causes
> this should be warenteed. I had good luck with Earnhardt's, but
> almost everyone I talk to hates the place. I only have a mild rig
(2"
> lift, 31" tires and lots of skid plates) so maybe the are hard
asses
> when it comes to more built rigs.
>
> Sensors could cause this. If it is the O2 sensors, they should
> replace them with no trouble.
>
> The TPS and CPS could also cause this. The TPS in particular used
to
> go bad due to water. They added an O ring to fix this problem. You
> could try disconnecting and reconnecting these sensors as even a
> little corrosion on the connector can cause these to give bad
> readings. Unless your engine is mud covered, I would expect them to
> replace these for free.
>
> Engine (coolent) temp out of range can also cause the light to go
on.
>
> Problems with the evap system can cause this too. This would be the
> gas cap, maybe the roll over valve, fuel pump (maybe), charcoal
> cannister, vacuum leak etc.
>
> Off hand I can't think of anything else, maybe the knock sensor
could
> cause this too, I don't know.
>
>
> BTW -- what is your "key trick". I know the on-off-on-off-on thing
> doesn't work in my '98. I read of another key trick (something like
> holding the odo button down when starting), but I forgot the method
> and lost the page.
32016 From: Steve Meyer <steve.j.meyer@h...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 9:34pm
Subject: Re: Re: Driveshaft work
Dick's Drive Shaft Exchange
2750 E Mcdowell Rd Phoenix AZ 85008-3615 (602) 231-0877
--Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Maiden
To: jay@toyboxoffroad.com ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Driveshaft work
Well, With about 8 inches of suspension lift do you all think I would be ok with a lengthened shaft or should I just pony up for an CV up front also? TIA oh and where exactly is Dick's? I have about three different streets so far:P
Scott "Iron" Maiden
93 Green YJ SOA
01 GSX-R 750....o~`o
http://www.scottmaiden.gixxer.com
bermboy@hotmail.com
>From: "Jay Eller"
>To: , , "Scott Maiden"
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Driveshaft work
>Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 20:48:52 -0700
>
>Dick's usually charges around $100 to lengthen a shaft (has to be totally retubed). At least that is what they charged me.
>
>And remember........"they don't take American Express" (or VISA or M/C or Diners or Anything!) Just cold hard cash! Why.....I don't know. Must look better on the books that way. :-) But seriously, they do good work and have great to deal with in the past. Just be sure to have cash. No plastic accepted there.
>----------------------------
>Jay Eller
>http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott Maiden
> To: James.Towle@asu.edu ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:34 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Driveshaft work
>
>
>
> Does anyone know about what it runs to have the front shaft lengthened about 2"?
>
> BTW Thanks For the bumper James.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Scott "Iron" Maiden
> 93 Green YJ SOA
> 01 GSX-R 750....o~`o
> http://www.scottmaiden.gixxer.com
> bermboy@hotmail.com
> >From: "James Towle"
> >To: "Scott Maiden"
> >Subject: Re: Driveshaft work
> >Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 03:00:33 -0000
> >
> >
> >Dick's Driveline (or Driveshaft) will give you a AZVJC discount and
> >they have been real good to me. They are worth the drive, I think
> >they are at Indian School & 4? Street.
> >
> >--James
> >
> >--- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Maiden" wrote:
> > >
> >
>
>
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32017 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 9:42pm
Subject: Jeep bites owner - film at eleven.
What a dork I am.
I've had the upper doors off my TJ since the car show at the Pavilions. I
have them stored next to the TJ on the floor. Tonight, I went out in my bare
feet to measure something for a fellow Jeeper and darned if those doors
didn't reach out and grap my foot and pull it in.
Score:
Jeep - 1
Toe - 0
It is nicely swollen and purple. Quite broken.
I think the Jeep was getting back at me for dropping it on the front control
arm bracket at Martinez.
Chris K
32018 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 9:48pm
Subject: Re: I get to keep her!!!!! NOW.....
Congrats!
With any lift above stock, you may/probably will have warranty issues
related to drivetrain/suspension components. But this is logical.
However, just having a lift/big tires does not in itself void your
entire warranty, that is against federal law. The dealer has to
prove that a mod you did directly affected the problem in question,
i.e. if your A/C quits working, the warranty (if applicable) would
still cover it, lifted or not.
My recommendation is start at 2-3" with 31s or 32s then move up after
you've learned how to drive it. Jumping right in with insane amounts
of lift and tires isn't necessarily a productive path to learning the
jeeps capabilities.
You can pay as little as $100 for a basic 1" spacer lift, all the way
up to $2500 for a top of line lift, and everywhere in between. But
the higher you go (usually 4"+), you'll need things like a SYE/CV
driveshaft, which adds to the overall cost.
Dan
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Kim Monson" <MOMSBUMBLEBEE@h...> wrote:
> Ok, this has been a issue for some time now but it's been solved
and I get
> to keep my 4th child...MY JEEP!!! Now, for the questions to
begin. I know
> the first step in the lift....who, what, how high before I get into
trouble
> with the warrenty, and how much should I expect to pay???? Also,
last week,
> someone was asking about flag stickers. Now that I get to keep her,
I get to
> decorate her. <smile> Can anyone tell me where to find flag
decals????
> Thanks.
> Kim
>
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32019 From: <FLEXYXJ@a...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 6:08pm
Subject: Update....Lift Install
Well tonight was the night It all started.....hopefully it should be done by Sunday and man I forgot just how much stuff there is to do....Let me just say one thing.....This ROCKKRAWLER 3 link Is going to flex like mad...first impressions are relly impressive....high quality workmanship on all of the pieces and it is very complete so far (we only have the front done as of 8PM tonight) I am wondering if I should have gotten 35's but at least these 33's will fit on the ZJ.... so tomorrow night we will be onto the t-case, and maybye the OX but will have to see how the case thing goes...BTW...next time anyone needs set up bearings for either a chry 8.25, ford 8.8 or D30 just let me know any you can borrow them!!!! I have plenty of time in making these......
FlexyXJ
32020 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 1:24pm
Subject: [TR] Himalaya Bay - Thursday, November 1, 2001 - Reminder
Hello All,
Michael Chatfield is leading a Himalaya Bay trail run on Thursday, November 1, 2001.
When: November 1st through November 4th
Where: Deep in the heart of Mexico... at a secluded little beach...
Rating: 2.0+
Length: 4 days
CB Channel: 4
Himalaya Bay, Mexico Discover SCUBA Certification Trip
Prepare to enter another world& a world of fascinating sea creatures from puffer fish and lobsters, to whales and dolphins& a myriad of incredible creatures from the smallest shrimp to the largest whale; an incredible journey awaits you in Himalaya Bay Mexico. Im extremely privileged to introduce you to this new world and to ultimately present you with your lifetime certification to SCUBA dive. You are about to undertake an adventure that you will never forget&
Contact Information: If for any reason you need to contact me, you can reach me at the following numbers: (480) 325-9419 (Home), (602) 524-7632 (Cell), (480) 325-9420 (Office).
Class Schedule: The following schedule must be adhered to without deviation. Please do not be late for any of the events listed in the schedule below. Failure to show up at a specific location at a specific time will just delay the entire class and inconvenience the other students. Please be courteous and show up on time or a bit early for each event.
Wednesday
We will be meeting on Wednesday, October 31st at the ASU Dive shop located at 48th street and Baseline Road. The shop phone number is (602) 431-1164. Be at the shop at 5:30PM sharp to be fitted with your gear and prepare your dive bag for the trip. The cost for each diver for this trip will be $125.00 which will be collected Wednesday, cash or checks are acceptable. The purpose of this meeting is for me to fit you with appropriately sized gear& you will not be taking any gear home with you.
Thursday
We will be meeting on Thursday, November 1st at the ASU Dive shop at 6:00 AM sharp. We will be loading all our gear into our vehicles and leaving directly for Mexico from the dive shop. We will caravan together as a group into Mexico. I will be in the lead vehicle (Green Jeep) with a CB radio and the last vehicle in the group will have a portable CB so that the group remains together. The trip to the dive location will take anywhere from 8 to 10 hours, with 9 hours being the norm. We will stop in Nogales to obtain Mexican automobile insurance prior to entering Mexico. Getting through the border checkpoint may take up to 90 minutes so remember to be patient; Ill walk you through the procedure. We will arrive at the dive site (a remote beach in Mexico) with enough sunlight left to setup camp and enjoy the beautiful scenery. It is normal for you to be a bit apprehensive about going into Mexico, Ive done it dozens of times without a problem& the horror stories are just that; stories. As long as you dont do anything stupid like bring in fire-arms or ammunition or any kind of weapons& youll be just fine. We will have a last minute briefing Thursday morning before we leave to cover any questions you may have.
Friday
We will conduct two Discover SCUBA dives on Friday; one in the morning and one in the afternoon. In-between dives, you will be free to explore the area, snorkel (without SCUBA gear), or just relax. There will be numerous briefings and lengthy discussions about the sea life you are going to experience on this dive. This will be your first open water set of dives; it will be normal for you to be a bit nervous& remember to relax and enjoy the incredible world you are experiencing. Discover SCUBA training will occur on Friday morning approximately three hours before the first Discover SCUBA dive.
Refresher courses for already certified divers will take place throughout the day. I will also have some students with me who will be completing their full Open Water Certification so you will be free to hang around and listen to the Open Water class as you wish. For those who wish to four wheel and explore the surrounding areas& you will be free to explore as you wish. I will request however, that I be notified about who is leaving and where you are heading so I can keep track of everyone in case there is a problem.
Saturday
Just like Friday, we will be conducting two dives on Saturday (one in the morning and one in the afternoon). Depending on how much air supply remains in your tanks& we may need to run to San Carlos to refill our tanks. You will need to pay the fee for refilling your tank should you decide to want to take additional dives.
Sunday
On Sunday, we will be packing up our gear and getting ready to return to Arizona. If enough students are interested, we may take a run into San Carlos to get more tanks filled and let everyone have some free time on Sunday morning to explore the bay area. We will leave the Bay around noon, and should be back in Phoenix by 9:00pm or so. Students who wish to leave early may do so at any time they wish on Sunday so that they arrive back in Phoenix earlier than 9:00pm.
Monday
Relax and enjoy the wonderful memories. Oh yes& clean your dive gear today and dont forget to hang it up to dry because you need to turn it in tomorrow.
Tuesday
Gear is to be turned into ASU Divers Dive shop by 5:30pm on Tuesday. It is your responsibility to maintain and return the dive gear in the same condition in which you rented it. I expect the dive gear to be completely cleaned and rinsed with no gravel, sand and dirt in any gear. Please treat this gear as if it were your own because if it is damaged or dirty; youll be charged a replacement or cleaning fee. The cleaning fee is $10.00 per item and the replacement fee is whatever the shops cost is on the gear lost or damaged. Dont forget to clean and rinse the inside of your BC and the inside and outside of the gear bags. If you forget to turn in the gear on Tuesday, you will be assessed a $40.00 per day rental fee for the gear.
Here is What you will need for this trip.
DONT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES BRING ANY FIREARM OR WEAPON INTO MEXICO. THIS INCLUDES LARGE KNIVES, SPEARGUNS, FLAREGUNS, OR ANY TYPE OF AMMUNITION. IF YOU DO, YOU WILL BE ARRESTED AND PUT INTO A MEXICAN PRISON. MEXICAN PRISONS ARE NOT NICE PLACES TO BE, AND THEY DONT GIVE A DAMN IF YOU ACCIDENTLY BROUGHT THAT ONE LITTLE 22 CALIBRE ROUND INTO THE COUNTRY BECAUSE IT WAS UNDER THE REAR FLOORMAT. GET IT? COMPRENDE?
NO EXCUSES!
IF YOU ARE A HUNTER; GO OVER YOUR VEHICLE WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB TO MAKE SURE NOTHING, AND I MEAN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING REMAINS WHICH WILL CAUSE ME TO HAVE TO COME VISIT YOU IN A MEXICAN PRISON.
(Think this is overkill? Spend a night in a Mexican Prison and you wont)
Make sure you have the following items packed and with you at all times on this trip.
1. Your SCUBA gear including tanks and weight belts.
2. Food enough to last you for 4 days.
3. Camping gear including a stove if you wish to cook your food. Bring charcoal and a grill if you like to barbecue. Dont forget items like pillows, chairs, flashlights, mess kit with plates, utensils, and cups, toilet paper (yup! No bathrooms here& I said REMOTE), bathing suit, towel, changes of clothes and ANY item you need to make yourself comfortable for 4 days of camping. If in doubt, TAKE IT!!!!!
4. Identification: Drivers license or passport.
5. Proof of US citizenship: Passport, birth certificate, voter registration card.
6. Drivers only: Original and TWO copies of both the vehicles title.
7. Drivers only: Original and TWO copies of both the vehicles registration.
8. Drivers only: Two copies of your drivers license.
9. Drivers only: A major credit card in the same name as vehicle registration and title.
10. Drivers only: Mexican Insurance.
11. Drivers only: If you drive a LEASED VEHICLE you need written permission from the leasing agency to take it into Mexico. Bring 2 copies of this permission slip
12. Drivers only: If you are driving someone elses vehicle into Mexico, you need written, notarized permission from the owner to take it into Mexico. Bring 2 copies of this permission slip.
13. Cash for Toll Roads and Gas. Id take about $200 per vehicle.
14. If you want to take a pet, make sure you have the animal licensed, and copies of vaccination records and license information& otherwise they take your pet and make carnita tacos out of them.
15. Sun Screen
16. Plenty of Water (or Beer or Gatorade Saltwater gets old after drinking it for a day or so)
Directions and Maps
We will be following Interstate 10 South to Nogales, Arizona. Follow the signs to the International Truck Route once you reach the outskirts of Nogales. Exit on Mariposa Road and go right. On the right hand side of the road (half a mile or so from the exit) you will see a Carls Junior and a Shell station. This is a good time to gas up and grab a bite to eat before we enter Mexico. At the light after the Shell station, take a right and go up the hill to the Mexican Insurance Office (you cant miss it& it has the BIG white Horse on the top of the building). After getting Mexican insurance, go back to Mariposa road and turn right and head for the border (no& not Taco Bell). After stopping at customs (some vehicles will be checked, dont worry&unless of course you were STUPID and brought in some ammunition or guns.
After stopping at customs, we will continue straight on the main road until we get to the main checkpoint. Youll recognize the main checkpoint because there will be a large sign and dirty parking lot on the right hand side of the road which has signs in English and Spanish giving directions on how to get through the checkpoint and get your vehicle registered. The checkpoint is quite a ways into Mexico, and youll probably think you missed it, but hang in there, you didnt miss it (unless youve gone 15 miles), its on the right hand side of the road& keep looking. Once at the checkpoint, you will need all of your identification paperwork and drivers will need all of the vehicle information including copies. The process goes something like this (yes, it changes at the whims of the Mexican Authorities): Stand in line to get your visa& go get a copy of your visa once it is issued, go to the Sonoran Only building and wait in line with your visa, copy of visa, registration, title and all copies. Get your Sonoran only sticker for your vehicle, put it in the lower right hand side of your windshield (inside), drive through the checkpoint. When the officers say where are you going and what are you doing, you say:
Boo-Say-Oh
San Carlos
(Translation: I am a Stupid American and I dont speak your language& please dont put me in a Mexican Prison)
Boo-say-oh means SCUBA diving and San Carlos is the closest big city which the checkpoint guards will know. Do NOT say Himalaya Bay or SCUBA Class& Just SCUBA Diving in San Carlos. Keep it simple& and throw in a Coke or two or eight to the guards& they love it, and it cuts down the hassle by 50%.
After clearing the checkpoint, you will follow the 15 South referencing signs to San Carlos and Guaymas. Once you get into Hermosillo, you will be taking a left at the first light into town. Follow this tiny little road which winds through a small barrio, making you think that you are incredibly lost and will soon be pulled over by a Mexican Federalle and put into a
Mexican Prison
Fear not though& you are not lost& follow this road until you get to a sign that references San Carlos and Guaymas; make a left turn here. From here, you will follow the map attached. Reset your trip odometer just after making the left turn& the Pemex station you will be looking for is 52 miles after making this left turn.
If this incredibly convoluted set of instructions confuses you& dont worry& it will all make sense to you when you do it a few times& These instructions will only be used by those lost little sheep who stray away from the comfort of our little caravan& my advice? Dont stray.
(By the way& all my comments about Mexican Prisons are in jest& they really arent all that bad if you enjoy living in abject poverty and never seeing your family again. On the serious side though; dont bring weapons, ammunition or drugs into Mexico. I havent lost a student yet, and I dont intend for you to be the first.)
Cheers my wonderful student& you are about to have the time of your life& I promise
Joe West
The incredible beauty of a secluded beach located deep in the heart of Mexico combined with SCUBA and offroad adventures unparalleled anywhere. The adventure begins with a 9 hour treck deep into the heart of Sonora Mexico.
Along the way we will see the real Mexico... which is NOTHING like the border towns known to many Americans.
Upon arrival to the camping site on the beach ( and located 75 miles from any city), you will be treated to an incredible oceanside view of a beautiful bay that is relitively untouched by civilization.
Trail Ratings vary from 2.0 to 5.0.
In addition to the adventures happening above the water... there will be many adventures below the water for those of you who are interested.
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32021 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 10:34pm
Subject: Stretched TJ
I have seen the 4 door TJ's before but, this is a two door stretched.
http://www.foothills4x4.com/stretchedtj.htm
This would make the V8 conversion easy.
--James
32022 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 9:51pm
Subject: Re: Driveshaft work
Scott,
No problem on the bumper.
I guess they are on McDowell :). I agree with everyone else they will
probably charge you $100. How long is the orignal drive shaft? I
wouldn't think it would be a problem to just lengthen it. Dick's will
be able to tell you more.
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...> wrote:
>
32023 From: Jesus Chio - AllOffRoad <jchio@a...>
Date: Mon Sep 3, 2001 2:15am
Subject: Electric Fans, Need HELP
I'm looking for an electric fan to help the cooling process of a 350HO on our CJ7.
I got a Griffin Aluminum Radiator (2 - 1" cores), 27.5W x 19H and now need to order an electric fan,. Here are some prices and specs of what I have found, if you know pros or cons of this setups or comments will be of a great help.
Flex-a-lite Dual unit fans: 2 x 10" dual fans, fan shroud built in and bolts right to the radiator, pulls 2500CFM and draws 19.5 amps, thermostat included and is reversible, price $203 (Jegs part # 400-M310)
Perma Cool High Performance: single 16" fan, moves 2950 cfm of air using 9.5 amps and costs $90 (Jegs part # 771-19115)
These both mount with nylon tie mounts or quick mounts. I find this as one of their disadvantages.
The third choice is a Black Magic Heavy Duty electra-fan: 15" blade, draws 13.9 amps and pulls 2800 cfm of air, has a rigid bracket mounting system which I like a lot. Costs $180 (Jegs part # 400-M150)
As far as I know, the higher CFM the better, but I'm not sure about the way they mount nor their resistance to water immersions and life lasting. Jegs part numbers are only for reference if anyone else is interested.
Thanks for your help
Jesus Chio
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31999 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 6:29pm
Subject: Driveshaft work
Hey Guys,
I was just wondering where a good place would be to get my front driveshaft lengthened, After I sprung it over the slip part is already extended about 3/4 of the way, not good. TIA
Scott "Iron" Maiden
93 Green YJ SOA
01 GSX-R 750....o~`o
http://www.scottmaiden.gixxer.com
bermboy@hotmail.com
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32000 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 6:45pm
Subject: RE: CB antenna question
Chris,
There are a number of crappy ones made, but if you want a good one, it will
run you about $20.
That being said, it is made by Hustler (a very reputable antenna company
that has been around for a long time). I got mine at the local Ham Radio
Outlet store in Phoenix. www.hamradio.com You will want the "HUSTLER QD-2,
QUICK DISCONNECT $19.95" model.
You can see mine at http://www.stu-offroad.com/cb/cb_install-2.htm
Yell if you need something else.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 6:05 PM
To: Virtual Jeep Club
Subject: [az_vjc] CB antenna question
Who makes a good quality quick-disconnect for the firestik antenna and where
can I get one locally? I want to go back to my 3 foot firestik and I would
break it off trying to get in my garage.
Chris K
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32001 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 6:41pm
Subject: [FS] JEEP BLACK HARD HALF DOORS!
Price: $400.00 or best offer!
Contact: offroadsundevil5@aol.com or asuevsundevil5@yahoo.com
Never used black hard half doors with new hinges and new steel horse mirros!
32002 From: James Smith <jeepinsmitty@y...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 6:52pm
Subject: Re: Good Parts...
Michael,
Did you happen to ask how much they wanted for these?
Thanks,
Smitty
--- Michael <msmith658@y...> wrote:
> For those who are interested,
>
> I was out at Ecology Auto Parts (wrecking yard on
> 27th ave, south of Van Buren) this past weekend and
> saw quite a few vehicles with Dana 44 fronts
> (wagoneers), Dana 44 rears (wagoneers, and other
> trucks, one postal jeep - narrow, about 46"),
> several Dana 60 rears... including a Dodge
> Ramcharger with a Dana 44 front and a Dana 60 rear.
>
>
> Michael
>
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32003 From: Rodney Neiman <rodney49@e...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 7:02pm
Subject: FR 42
Had a great time. Thanks to Jon for leading and Allen for providing the excitement.
--- Rodney Neiman
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32004 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 7:18pm
Subject: [FS] '91 Wrangler Stock Rims
Price: give me an offer
Contact: offroadsundevil5@aol.com
I have 4 used stock jeep rims for sale. Also I have the spare tire with the 5th stock rim, the size of the tire is 29 x 12.50
32005 From: Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 7:42pm
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1250
Chris - I run ProComp Muds 35x12.5. They have been great. I have about 8K
on them and have not had a recent problem. After my first run with them
(U/L Woodpecker and U/L Ajax) I had what they called stress cracks on one
tire. I had to 'buy' a replacement and send the original back to ProComp.
They honored the cracks saying it shouldn't have happened that soon and
gave me 100% refund on the tire I purchased. I did all this through OffRoad
Unlimited in Scottsdale (Mark) and they were great about it. I bought the
tires from them originally in a buy 3 get the 4th free deal last year. They
are very quiet on the road and grab off road. I would get another set.
Jon
At 12:22 AM 10/2/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 17:24:15 -0700
> From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
>Subject: Pro Comp tires?
>
>Are ProComp tires available locally? For those who have ordered them, what
>have you done for warranty replacements?
>
>I'd really love some of the new BFG MT KMs, but I think the price is going
>to be prohibitive.
>
>Chris K
>1997 Jeep TJ (with tiny tires)
>My TJ Website:
>http://members.home.net/rv6a/jeeptjsite.html
32006 From: <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 7:56pm
Subject: FS: TJ Hardtop and Doors
Jason D. is selling his 2000 TJ Grey full steel doors and the Black
Hard top. He has hardly had the top on, he usually just has the soft
top on it. If you want to see them, they are sitting up at the Fly-N-
Hi out on Country Club. If interested let me know!!! -Rob
g_rob_williams@y...
32007 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 8:06pm
Subject: Re: CB antenna question
Thanks Stu. This is what I'm looking for. I definately do not want a crappy
one and $20 seems very reasonable for this.
Thanks again,
Chris
> From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 18:45:14 -0700
> To: "Chris Krieg" <rv6a@m...>, "Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] CB antenna question
>
> Chris,
>
> There are a number of crappy ones made, but if you want a good one, it will
> run you about $20.
>
> That being said, it is made by Hustler (a very reputable antenna company
> that has been around for a long time). I got mine at the local Ham Radio
> Outlet store in Phoenix. www.hamradio.com You will want the "HUSTLER QD-2,
> QUICK DISCONNECT $19.95" model.
>
> You can see mine at http://www.stu-offroad.com/cb/cb_install-2.htm
>
> Yell if you need something else.
>
> Stu
>
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 6:05 PM
> To: Virtual Jeep Club
> Subject: [az_vjc] CB antenna question
>
>
> Who makes a good quality quick-disconnect for the firestik antenna and where
> can I get one locally? I want to go back to my 3 foot firestik and I would
> break it off trying to get in my garage.
>
> Chris K
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
32008 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 8:34pm
Subject: Re: Driveshaft work
Does anyone know about what it runs to have the front shaft lengthened about 2"?
BTW Thanks For the bumper James.
Scott "Iron" Maiden
93 Green YJ SOA
01 GSX-R 750....o~`o
http://www.scottmaiden.gixxer.com
bermboy@hotmail.com
>From: "James Towle"
>To: "Scott Maiden"
>Subject: Re: Driveshaft work
>Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 03:00:33 -0000
>
>
>Dick's Driveline (or Driveshaft) will give you a AZVJC discount and
>they have been real good to me. They are worth the drive, I think
>they are at Indian School & 4? Street.
>
>--James
>
>--- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Maiden" wrote:
> >
>
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32009 From: Steve Meyer <steve.j.meyer@h...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 8:36pm
Subject: Re: Re: Driveshaft work
Doh...forgot to copy the list.
--Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Meyer
To: Scott Maiden
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Driveshaft work
I thought they were on Washington. Yeah, they are known for giving killer deals. They gave me the "Steve's Auto Parts" discount... ;-)
--Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Maiden
To: James.Towle@asu.edu ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:34 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Driveshaft work
Does anyone know about what it runs to have the front shaft lengthened about 2"?
BTW Thanks For the bumper James.
Scott "Iron" Maiden
93 Green YJ SOA
01 GSX-R 750....o~`o
http://www.scottmaiden.gixxer.com
bermboy@hotmail.com
>From: "James Towle"
>To: "Scott Maiden"
>Subject: Re: Driveshaft work
>Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 03:00:33 -0000
>
>
>Dick's Driveline (or Driveshaft) will give you a AZVJC discount and
>they have been real good to me. They are worth the drive, I think
>they are at Indian School & 4? Street.
>
>--James
>
>--- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Maiden" wrote:
> >
>
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32010 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 8:48pm
Subject: Re: Re: Driveshaft work
Dick's usually charges around $100 to lengthen a shaft (has to be totally retubed). At least that is what they charged me.
And remember........"they don't take American Express" (or VISA or M/C or Diners or Anything!) Just cold hard cash! Why.....I don't know. Must look better on the books that way. :-) But seriously, they do good work and have great to deal with in the past. Just be sure to have cash. No plastic accepted there.
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http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Maiden
To: James.Towle@asu.edu ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:34 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Driveshaft work
Does anyone know about what it runs to have the front shaft lengthened about 2"?
BTW Thanks For the bumper James.
Scott "Iron" Maiden
93 Green YJ SOA
01 GSX-R 750....o~`o
http://www.scottmaiden.gixxer.com
bermboy@hotmail.com
>From: "James Towle"
>To: "Scott Maiden"
>Subject: Re: Driveshaft work
>Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 03:00:33 -0000
>
>
>Dick's Driveline (or Driveshaft) will give you a AZVJC discount and
>they have been real good to me. They are worth the drive, I think
>they are at Indian School & 4? Street.
>
>--James
>
>--- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Maiden" wrote:
> >
>
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32011 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 9:02pm
Subject: Re: Re: Driveshaft work
Well, With about 8 inches of suspension lift do you all think I would be ok with a lengthened shaft or should I just pony up for an CV up front also? TIA oh and where exactly is Dick's? I have about three different streets so far:P
Scott "Iron" Maiden
93 Green YJ SOA
01 GSX-R 750....o~`o
http://www.scottmaiden.gixxer.com
bermboy@hotmail.com
>From: "Jay Eller"
>To: , , "Scott Maiden"
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Driveshaft work
>Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 20:48:52 -0700
>
>Dick's usually charges around $100 to lengthen a shaft (has to be totally retubed). At least that is what they charged me.
>
>And remember........"they don't take American Express" (or VISA or M/C or Diners or Anything!) Just cold hard cash! Why.....I don't know. Must look better on the books that way. :-) But seriously, they do good work and have great to deal with in the past. Just be sure to have cash. No plastic accepted there.
>----------------------------
>Jay Eller
>http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott Maiden
> To: James.Towle@asu.edu ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:34 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Driveshaft work
>
>
>
> Does anyone know about what it runs to have the front shaft lengthened about 2"?
>
> BTW Thanks For the bumper James.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Scott "Iron" Maiden
> 93 Green YJ SOA
> 01 GSX-R 750....o~`o
> http://www.scottmaiden.gixxer.com
> bermboy@hotmail.com
> >From: "James Towle"
> >To: "Scott Maiden"
> >Subject: Re: Driveshaft work
> >Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 03:00:33 -0000
> >
> >
> >Dick's Driveline (or Driveshaft) will give you a AZVJC discount and
> >they have been real good to me. They are worth the drive, I think
> >they are at Indian School & 4? Street.
> >
> >--James
> >
> >--- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Maiden" wrote:
> > >
> >
>
>
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32012 From: Tom Patterson <trpsys@q...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 9:10pm
Subject: Re: Parker
DougB,
I’m going with a couple of friend from Casa Grande and Phoenix. We will
probable leave early Friday 9 and will camp at La Paz County Park.
Tom Patterson
DougB wrote:
> Who's going to Desert Splash?? It's Nov 10-11. Just sent in my registration.
>
> For those that haven't done some of the trails round Parker, it's great
> wheelin!!
>
> Doug
>
>
>
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32013 From: <joeclarkin@y...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 9:48am
Subject: Re: '01 Check Engine Light
About a zillion things can cause a check engine light. From what I've
read, as long as it is solid (not blinking), it isn't that big a
deal.
I would bring it in to the dealer. I had to do that on my '98 and
they flashed the engine computer ROM. Almost anything that causes
this should be warenteed. I had good luck with Earnhardt's, but
almost everyone I talk to hates the place. I only have a mild rig (2"
lift, 31" tires and lots of skid plates) so maybe the are hard asses
when it comes to more built rigs.
Sensors could cause this. If it is the O2 sensors, they should
replace them with no trouble.
The TPS and CPS could also cause this. The TPS in particular used to
go bad due to water. They added an O ring to fix this problem. You
could try disconnecting and reconnecting these sensors as even a
little corrosion on the connector can cause these to give bad
readings. Unless your engine is mud covered, I would expect them to
replace these for free.
Engine (coolent) temp out of range can also cause the light to go on.
Problems with the evap system can cause this too. This would be the
gas cap, maybe the roll over valve, fuel pump (maybe), charcoal
cannister, vacuum leak etc.
Off hand I can't think of anything else, maybe the knock sensor could
cause this too, I don't know.
BTW -- what is your "key trick". I know the on-off-on-off-on thing
doesn't work in my '98. I read of another key trick (something like
holding the odo button down when starting), but I forgot the method
and lost the page.
32014 From: Kim Monson <MOMSBUMBLEBEE@h...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 1:15pm
Subject: I get to keep her!!!!! NOW.....
Ok, this has been a issue for some time now but it's been solved and I get
to keep my 4th child...MY JEEP!!! Now, for the questions to begin. I know
the first step in the lift....who, what, how high before I get into trouble
with the warrenty, and how much should I expect to pay???? Also, last week,
someone was asking about flag stickers. Now that I get to keep her, I get to
decorate her. <smile> Can anyone tell me where to find flag decals????
Thanks.
Kim
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32015 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 9:39pm
Subject: Re: '01 Check Engine Light
Well I unhooked the battery cable for a few minutes, and now the
light is off, so I guess all is well.
Hold down the odo. button and turn the ignition to on, then off 3
times and it will go through the gauges check, then show a code if
there is something wrong. I've read some of them will flash a
number, but mine would flash something (can't remember) a certain
number of times representing the digits of the codes. i.e. two
flashes = 2, then a pause then 5 flashes = 5....25
I've heard/read than only the 97s do this, but mine's a 2000 and does
it...however that was after I submerged it under water, so that may
have something to do with it.
--- In az_vjc@y..., joeclarkin@y... wrote:
> About a zillion things can cause a check engine light. From what
I've
> read, as long as it is solid (not blinking), it isn't that big a
> deal.
>
>
> I would bring it in to the dealer. I had to do that on my '98 and
> they flashed the engine computer ROM. Almost anything that causes
> this should be warenteed. I had good luck with Earnhardt's, but
> almost everyone I talk to hates the place. I only have a mild rig
(2"
> lift, 31" tires and lots of skid plates) so maybe the are hard
asses
> when it comes to more built rigs.
>
> Sensors could cause this. If it is the O2 sensors, they should
> replace them with no trouble.
>
> The TPS and CPS could also cause this. The TPS in particular used
to
> go bad due to water. They added an O ring to fix this problem. You
> could try disconnecting and reconnecting these sensors as even a
> little corrosion on the connector can cause these to give bad
> readings. Unless your engine is mud covered, I would expect them to
> replace these for free.
>
> Engine (coolent) temp out of range can also cause the light to go
on.
>
> Problems with the evap system can cause this too. This would be the
> gas cap, maybe the roll over valve, fuel pump (maybe), charcoal
> cannister, vacuum leak etc.
>
> Off hand I can't think of anything else, maybe the knock sensor
could
> cause this too, I don't know.
>
>
> BTW -- what is your "key trick". I know the on-off-on-off-on thing
> doesn't work in my '98. I read of another key trick (something like
> holding the odo button down when starting), but I forgot the method
> and lost the page.
32016 From: Steve Meyer <steve.j.meyer@h...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 9:34pm
Subject: Re: Re: Driveshaft work
Dick's Drive Shaft Exchange
2750 E Mcdowell Rd Phoenix AZ 85008-3615 (602) 231-0877
--Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Maiden
To: jay@toyboxoffroad.com ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Driveshaft work
Well, With about 8 inches of suspension lift do you all think I would be ok with a lengthened shaft or should I just pony up for an CV up front also? TIA oh and where exactly is Dick's? I have about three different streets so far:P
Scott "Iron" Maiden
93 Green YJ SOA
01 GSX-R 750....o~`o
http://www.scottmaiden.gixxer.com
bermboy@hotmail.com
>From: "Jay Eller"
>To: , , "Scott Maiden"
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Driveshaft work
>Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 20:48:52 -0700
>
>Dick's usually charges around $100 to lengthen a shaft (has to be totally retubed). At least that is what they charged me.
>
>And remember........"they don't take American Express" (or VISA or M/C or Diners or Anything!) Just cold hard cash! Why.....I don't know. Must look better on the books that way. :-) But seriously, they do good work and have great to deal with in the past. Just be sure to have cash. No plastic accepted there.
>----------------------------
>Jay Eller
>http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott Maiden
> To: James.Towle@asu.edu ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:34 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Driveshaft work
>
>
>
> Does anyone know about what it runs to have the front shaft lengthened about 2"?
>
> BTW Thanks For the bumper James.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Scott "Iron" Maiden
> 93 Green YJ SOA
> 01 GSX-R 750....o~`o
> http://www.scottmaiden.gixxer.com
> bermboy@hotmail.com
> >From: "James Towle"
> >To: "Scott Maiden"
> >Subject: Re: Driveshaft work
> >Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 03:00:33 -0000
> >
> >
> >Dick's Driveline (or Driveshaft) will give you a AZVJC discount and
> >they have been real good to me. They are worth the drive, I think
> >they are at Indian School & 4? Street.
> >
> >--James
> >
> >--- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Maiden" wrote:
> > >
> >
>
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32017 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 9:42pm
Subject: Jeep bites owner - film at eleven.
What a dork I am.
I've had the upper doors off my TJ since the car show at the Pavilions. I
have them stored next to the TJ on the floor. Tonight, I went out in my bare
feet to measure something for a fellow Jeeper and darned if those doors
didn't reach out and grap my foot and pull it in.
Score:
Jeep - 1
Toe - 0
It is nicely swollen and purple. Quite broken.
I think the Jeep was getting back at me for dropping it on the front control
arm bracket at Martinez.
Chris K
32018 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 9:48pm
Subject: Re: I get to keep her!!!!! NOW.....
Congrats!
With any lift above stock, you may/probably will have warranty issues
related to drivetrain/suspension components. But this is logical.
However, just having a lift/big tires does not in itself void your
entire warranty, that is against federal law. The dealer has to
prove that a mod you did directly affected the problem in question,
i.e. if your A/C quits working, the warranty (if applicable) would
still cover it, lifted or not.
My recommendation is start at 2-3" with 31s or 32s then move up after
you've learned how to drive it. Jumping right in with insane amounts
of lift and tires isn't necessarily a productive path to learning the
jeeps capabilities.
You can pay as little as $100 for a basic 1" spacer lift, all the way
up to $2500 for a top of line lift, and everywhere in between. But
the higher you go (usually 4"+), you'll need things like a SYE/CV
driveshaft, which adds to the overall cost.
Dan
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Kim Monson" <MOMSBUMBLEBEE@h...> wrote:
> Ok, this has been a issue for some time now but it's been solved
and I get
> to keep my 4th child...MY JEEP!!! Now, for the questions to
begin. I know
> the first step in the lift....who, what, how high before I get into
trouble
> with the warrenty, and how much should I expect to pay???? Also,
last week,
> someone was asking about flag stickers. Now that I get to keep her,
I get to
> decorate her. <smile> Can anyone tell me where to find flag
decals????
> Thanks.
> Kim
>
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32019 From: <FLEXYXJ@a...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 6:08pm
Subject: Update....Lift Install
Well tonight was the night It all started.....hopefully it should be done by Sunday and man I forgot just how much stuff there is to do....Let me just say one thing.....This ROCKKRAWLER 3 link Is going to flex like mad...first impressions are relly impressive....high quality workmanship on all of the pieces and it is very complete so far (we only have the front done as of 8PM tonight) I am wondering if I should have gotten 35's but at least these 33's will fit on the ZJ.... so tomorrow night we will be onto the t-case, and maybye the OX but will have to see how the case thing goes...BTW...next time anyone needs set up bearings for either a chry 8.25, ford 8.8 or D30 just let me know any you can borrow them!!!! I have plenty of time in making these......
FlexyXJ
32020 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 1:24pm
Subject: [TR] Himalaya Bay - Thursday, November 1, 2001 - Reminder
Hello All,
Michael Chatfield is leading a Himalaya Bay trail run on Thursday, November 1, 2001.
When: November 1st through November 4th
Where: Deep in the heart of Mexico... at a secluded little beach...
Rating: 2.0+
Length: 4 days
CB Channel: 4
Himalaya Bay, Mexico Discover SCUBA Certification Trip
Prepare to enter another world& a world of fascinating sea creatures from puffer fish and lobsters, to whales and dolphins& a myriad of incredible creatures from the smallest shrimp to the largest whale; an incredible journey awaits you in Himalaya Bay Mexico. Im extremely privileged to introduce you to this new world and to ultimately present you with your lifetime certification to SCUBA dive. You are about to undertake an adventure that you will never forget&
Contact Information: If for any reason you need to contact me, you can reach me at the following numbers: (480) 325-9419 (Home), (602) 524-7632 (Cell), (480) 325-9420 (Office).
Class Schedule: The following schedule must be adhered to without deviation. Please do not be late for any of the events listed in the schedule below. Failure to show up at a specific location at a specific time will just delay the entire class and inconvenience the other students. Please be courteous and show up on time or a bit early for each event.
Wednesday
We will be meeting on Wednesday, October 31st at the ASU Dive shop located at 48th street and Baseline Road. The shop phone number is (602) 431-1164. Be at the shop at 5:30PM sharp to be fitted with your gear and prepare your dive bag for the trip. The cost for each diver for this trip will be $125.00 which will be collected Wednesday, cash or checks are acceptable. The purpose of this meeting is for me to fit you with appropriately sized gear& you will not be taking any gear home with you.
Thursday
We will be meeting on Thursday, November 1st at the ASU Dive shop at 6:00 AM sharp. We will be loading all our gear into our vehicles and leaving directly for Mexico from the dive shop. We will caravan together as a group into Mexico. I will be in the lead vehicle (Green Jeep) with a CB radio and the last vehicle in the group will have a portable CB so that the group remains together. The trip to the dive location will take anywhere from 8 to 10 hours, with 9 hours being the norm. We will stop in Nogales to obtain Mexican automobile insurance prior to entering Mexico. Getting through the border checkpoint may take up to 90 minutes so remember to be patient; Ill walk you through the procedure. We will arrive at the dive site (a remote beach in Mexico) with enough sunlight left to setup camp and enjoy the beautiful scenery. It is normal for you to be a bit apprehensive about going into Mexico, Ive done it dozens of times without a problem& the horror stories are just that; stories. As long as you dont do anything stupid like bring in fire-arms or ammunition or any kind of weapons& youll be just fine. We will have a last minute briefing Thursday morning before we leave to cover any questions you may have.
Friday
We will conduct two Discover SCUBA dives on Friday; one in the morning and one in the afternoon. In-between dives, you will be free to explore the area, snorkel (without SCUBA gear), or just relax. There will be numerous briefings and lengthy discussions about the sea life you are going to experience on this dive. This will be your first open water set of dives; it will be normal for you to be a bit nervous& remember to relax and enjoy the incredible world you are experiencing. Discover SCUBA training will occur on Friday morning approximately three hours before the first Discover SCUBA dive.
Refresher courses for already certified divers will take place throughout the day. I will also have some students with me who will be completing their full Open Water Certification so you will be free to hang around and listen to the Open Water class as you wish. For those who wish to four wheel and explore the surrounding areas& you will be free to explore as you wish. I will request however, that I be notified about who is leaving and where you are heading so I can keep track of everyone in case there is a problem.
Saturday
Just like Friday, we will be conducting two dives on Saturday (one in the morning and one in the afternoon). Depending on how much air supply remains in your tanks& we may need to run to San Carlos to refill our tanks. You will need to pay the fee for refilling your tank should you decide to want to take additional dives.
Sunday
On Sunday, we will be packing up our gear and getting ready to return to Arizona. If enough students are interested, we may take a run into San Carlos to get more tanks filled and let everyone have some free time on Sunday morning to explore the bay area. We will leave the Bay around noon, and should be back in Phoenix by 9:00pm or so. Students who wish to leave early may do so at any time they wish on Sunday so that they arrive back in Phoenix earlier than 9:00pm.
Monday
Relax and enjoy the wonderful memories. Oh yes& clean your dive gear today and dont forget to hang it up to dry because you need to turn it in tomorrow.
Tuesday
Gear is to be turned into ASU Divers Dive shop by 5:30pm on Tuesday. It is your responsibility to maintain and return the dive gear in the same condition in which you rented it. I expect the dive gear to be completely cleaned and rinsed with no gravel, sand and dirt in any gear. Please treat this gear as if it were your own because if it is damaged or dirty; youll be charged a replacement or cleaning fee. The cleaning fee is $10.00 per item and the replacement fee is whatever the shops cost is on the gear lost or damaged. Dont forget to clean and rinse the inside of your BC and the inside and outside of the gear bags. If you forget to turn in the gear on Tuesday, you will be assessed a $40.00 per day rental fee for the gear.
Here is What you will need for this trip.
DONT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES BRING ANY FIREARM OR WEAPON INTO MEXICO. THIS INCLUDES LARGE KNIVES, SPEARGUNS, FLAREGUNS, OR ANY TYPE OF AMMUNITION. IF YOU DO, YOU WILL BE ARRESTED AND PUT INTO A MEXICAN PRISON. MEXICAN PRISONS ARE NOT NICE PLACES TO BE, AND THEY DONT GIVE A DAMN IF YOU ACCIDENTLY BROUGHT THAT ONE LITTLE 22 CALIBRE ROUND INTO THE COUNTRY BECAUSE IT WAS UNDER THE REAR FLOORMAT. GET IT? COMPRENDE?
NO EXCUSES!
IF YOU ARE A HUNTER; GO OVER YOUR VEHICLE WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB TO MAKE SURE NOTHING, AND I MEAN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING REMAINS WHICH WILL CAUSE ME TO HAVE TO COME VISIT YOU IN A MEXICAN PRISON.
(Think this is overkill? Spend a night in a Mexican Prison and you wont)
Make sure you have the following items packed and with you at all times on this trip.
1. Your SCUBA gear including tanks and weight belts.
2. Food enough to last you for 4 days.
3. Camping gear including a stove if you wish to cook your food. Bring charcoal and a grill if you like to barbecue. Dont forget items like pillows, chairs, flashlights, mess kit with plates, utensils, and cups, toilet paper (yup! No bathrooms here& I said REMOTE), bathing suit, towel, changes of clothes and ANY item you need to make yourself comfortable for 4 days of camping. If in doubt, TAKE IT!!!!!
4. Identification: Drivers license or passport.
5. Proof of US citizenship: Passport, birth certificate, voter registration card.
6. Drivers only: Original and TWO copies of both the vehicles title.
7. Drivers only: Original and TWO copies of both the vehicles registration.
8. Drivers only: Two copies of your drivers license.
9. Drivers only: A major credit card in the same name as vehicle registration and title.
10. Drivers only: Mexican Insurance.
11. Drivers only: If you drive a LEASED VEHICLE you need written permission from the leasing agency to take it into Mexico. Bring 2 copies of this permission slip
12. Drivers only: If you are driving someone elses vehicle into Mexico, you need written, notarized permission from the owner to take it into Mexico. Bring 2 copies of this permission slip.
13. Cash for Toll Roads and Gas. Id take about $200 per vehicle.
14. If you want to take a pet, make sure you have the animal licensed, and copies of vaccination records and license information& otherwise they take your pet and make carnita tacos out of them.
15. Sun Screen
16. Plenty of Water (or Beer or Gatorade Saltwater gets old after drinking it for a day or so)
Directions and Maps
We will be following Interstate 10 South to Nogales, Arizona. Follow the signs to the International Truck Route once you reach the outskirts of Nogales. Exit on Mariposa Road and go right. On the right hand side of the road (half a mile or so from the exit) you will see a Carls Junior and a Shell station. This is a good time to gas up and grab a bite to eat before we enter Mexico. At the light after the Shell station, take a right and go up the hill to the Mexican Insurance Office (you cant miss it& it has the BIG white Horse on the top of the building). After getting Mexican insurance, go back to Mariposa road and turn right and head for the border (no& not Taco Bell). After stopping at customs (some vehicles will be checked, dont worry&unless of course you were STUPID and brought in some ammunition or guns.
After stopping at customs, we will continue straight on the main road until we get to the main checkpoint. Youll recognize the main checkpoint because there will be a large sign and dirty parking lot on the right hand side of the road which has signs in English and Spanish giving directions on how to get through the checkpoint and get your vehicle registered. The checkpoint is quite a ways into Mexico, and youll probably think you missed it, but hang in there, you didnt miss it (unless youve gone 15 miles), its on the right hand side of the road& keep looking. Once at the checkpoint, you will need all of your identification paperwork and drivers will need all of the vehicle information including copies. The process goes something like this (yes, it changes at the whims of the Mexican Authorities): Stand in line to get your visa& go get a copy of your visa once it is issued, go to the Sonoran Only building and wait in line with your visa, copy of visa, registration, title and all copies. Get your Sonoran only sticker for your vehicle, put it in the lower right hand side of your windshield (inside), drive through the checkpoint. When the officers say where are you going and what are you doing, you say:
Boo-Say-Oh
San Carlos
(Translation: I am a Stupid American and I dont speak your language& please dont put me in a Mexican Prison)
Boo-say-oh means SCUBA diving and San Carlos is the closest big city which the checkpoint guards will know. Do NOT say Himalaya Bay or SCUBA Class& Just SCUBA Diving in San Carlos. Keep it simple& and throw in a Coke or two or eight to the guards& they love it, and it cuts down the hassle by 50%.
After clearing the checkpoint, you will follow the 15 South referencing signs to San Carlos and Guaymas. Once you get into Hermosillo, you will be taking a left at the first light into town. Follow this tiny little road which winds through a small barrio, making you think that you are incredibly lost and will soon be pulled over by a Mexican Federalle and put into a
Mexican Prison
Fear not though& you are not lost& follow this road until you get to a sign that references San Carlos and Guaymas; make a left turn here. From here, you will follow the map attached. Reset your trip odometer just after making the left turn& the Pemex station you will be looking for is 52 miles after making this left turn.
If this incredibly convoluted set of instructions confuses you& dont worry& it will all make sense to you when you do it a few times& These instructions will only be used by those lost little sheep who stray away from the comfort of our little caravan& my advice? Dont stray.
(By the way& all my comments about Mexican Prisons are in jest& they really arent all that bad if you enjoy living in abject poverty and never seeing your family again. On the serious side though; dont bring weapons, ammunition or drugs into Mexico. I havent lost a student yet, and I dont intend for you to be the first.)
Cheers my wonderful student& you are about to have the time of your life& I promise
Joe West
The incredible beauty of a secluded beach located deep in the heart of Mexico combined with SCUBA and offroad adventures unparalleled anywhere. The adventure begins with a 9 hour treck deep into the heart of Sonora Mexico.
Along the way we will see the real Mexico... which is NOTHING like the border towns known to many Americans.
Upon arrival to the camping site on the beach ( and located 75 miles from any city), you will be treated to an incredible oceanside view of a beautiful bay that is relitively untouched by civilization.
Trail Ratings vary from 2.0 to 5.0.
In addition to the adventures happening above the water... there will be many adventures below the water for those of you who are interested.
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32021 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 10:34pm
Subject: Stretched TJ
I have seen the 4 door TJ's before but, this is a two door stretched.
http://www.foothills4x4.com/stretchedtj.htm
This would make the V8 conversion easy.
--James
32022 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 9:51pm
Subject: Re: Driveshaft work
Scott,
No problem on the bumper.
I guess they are on McDowell :). I agree with everyone else they will
probably charge you $100. How long is the orignal drive shaft? I
wouldn't think it would be a problem to just lengthen it. Dick's will
be able to tell you more.
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...> wrote:
>
32023 From: Jesus Chio - AllOffRoad <jchio@a...>
Date: Mon Sep 3, 2001 2:15am
Subject: Electric Fans, Need HELP
I'm looking for an electric fan to help the cooling process of a 350HO on our CJ7.
I got a Griffin Aluminum Radiator (2 - 1" cores), 27.5W x 19H and now need to order an electric fan,. Here are some prices and specs of what I have found, if you know pros or cons of this setups or comments will be of a great help.
Flex-a-lite Dual unit fans: 2 x 10" dual fans, fan shroud built in and bolts right to the radiator, pulls 2500CFM and draws 19.5 amps, thermostat included and is reversible, price $203 (Jegs part # 400-M310)
Perma Cool High Performance: single 16" fan, moves 2950 cfm of air using 9.5 amps and costs $90 (Jegs part # 771-19115)
These both mount with nylon tie mounts or quick mounts. I find this as one of their disadvantages.
The third choice is a Black Magic Heavy Duty electra-fan: 15" blade, draws 13.9 amps and pulls 2800 cfm of air, has a rigid bracket mounting system which I like a lot. Costs $180 (Jegs part # 400-M150)
As far as I know, the higher CFM the better, but I'm not sure about the way they mount nor their resistance to water immersions and life lasting. Jegs part numbers are only for reference if anyone else is interested.
Thanks for your help
Jesus Chio
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