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31824 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 11:55am
Subject: Re: Re: Junk Yard Wars
How about nominating Joe West so he can baffel us all with techno numbers,
equations, and figures. That's SURE to scare the oposition! ;-)
(Just kidding Joe. Little humour in light of your past posts that delt with
figures!)
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31825 From: <jeeperaz@b...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 11:59am
Subject: Re: Need some help to findTire carrier hinges
I put together a page that may help or offer some ideas....
http://www.geocities.com/jeeperaz/bumper_carrier_info.html
--- In az_vjc@y..., stallonedev@y... wrote:
> Hello, I was wondering if someone know's a place that I can buy a
> Hinge for a tire carrier that I am building. I would like a hinge
> that connects to my bumper not a hinge that connects to the frame.
I
> need something that is going to very strong and that will be easy
to
> open and close. If anybody has any information of were I can find
> one I would apperciate it. Thanks Anthony
31826 From: Craig Micek <micekc@e...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 0:22pm
Subject: Re: Re: Need some help to findTire carrier hinges
Here is one ready to weld in. $40.
http://www.rockstomper.com/catalog/pieces/hinge.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: <jeeperaz@b...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 11:59 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Need some help to findTire carrier hinges
> I put together a page that may help or offer some ideas....
>
> http://www.geocities.com/jeeperaz/bumper_carrier_info.html
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., stallonedev@y... wrote:
> > Hello, I was wondering if someone know's a place that I can buy a
> > Hinge for a tire carrier that I am building. I would like a hinge
> > that connects to my bumper not a hinge that connects to the frame.
> I
> > need something that is going to very strong and that will be easy
> to
> > open and close. If anybody has any information of were I can find
> > one I would apperciate it. Thanks Anthony
>
>
>
>
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>
>
31827 From: <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 0:31pm
Subject: Has anyone seen a FedEx truck?
Ok, I'm sitting here by the door awaiting the FedEx guy and a
truck full of hardware for the Jeep. If he comes today I can still
make a plan to bolt my lift on at John Butler's house on Sunday. I
will be gone all day tomorrow, so if it comes on Friday I won't know,
and I won't be able to wait another week to bolt it on. Agh! The
agony. Funny part, though, is that I don't have tires yet, so I'll
be rolling around on the stockers until I get some meats. The Super
Swampers developed a serious case of separation anxiety last week,
and I had to revert to the tiny factory tires! I still can't believe
that THREE out of four SSRs delaminated at the same time. Hugely out
of round, they were 31" when measured from one direction, and across
a perpendicular diameter measured 38"!!! Needless to say it was a
very bumpy ride until I slowed down to about a dead stop. And talk
about scary! Ever have that happen to a locked rear diff at highway
speeds and you'll know what it's like to seriously need a fresh set
of shorts!!! Not funny, BTW...
Lachlan
31828 From: Blake Van de Loo <blake@m...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 0:54pm
Subject: RE: [Wanted] Used 35x12.5 tires
I have some 35 x 15.50 TSL SX's
Blake
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 9:55 PM
To: Virtual Jeep Club
Subject: [az_vjc] [Wanted] Used 35x12.5 tires
Anyone have any used 35x12.5 tires they might be selling sometime soon? My
Jeep is starting to look silly with 5.5 inches of lift and 33x10.5 tires.
Chris K
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31829 From: Baja Fleg <fleigle@h...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 1:32pm
Subject: Re: Junk Yard Wars
I was actually contact by Nathan from JYW's about a year ago to be the
expert in the baja and sandrail competition they did awhile back. I got as
far as making a short video and sending it in but had to back out at the
last min because of a new job that I had just got.
At the time they did film it in England and I was told they couldn't film it
in the US for insurance reasons. Also the contest does take place over a
few days but they only have 10 hours to go through the scrap pile and build
it the rest of the time is interviews and some saftey training. All those
times you see the hosts talk to them that doesn't count against their 10
hour time limit and when they are eating that doesn't count either. Right
before they run their machines they give them a few hours of "tinker time"
to fix anything small that might be wrong. The junkyard is seaded with
items that are necessary to meet the objective. Also the english lady host
was actually the one who came up with the idea of JYW's as an educational
show for younger people.
Fleg
----Original Message Follows----
Guys,
I think you will find this series is being filmed in the USA. I didn't see
anything English in the Junkyard this time. Even the old bus was now a
Brill and not a Duple as in past series. You don't get hills in the
distance like the skyline showed either.
Peter.
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31830 From: Brent Lizakowski <brent_lizakowski@h...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 2:47pm
Subject: Re: Junk Yard Wars
I'd love to go on that show!!!
That show was my inspiration to go buy a welder and learn how to weld
(still in the process, I've got the welder, but haven't used it too
much).
If you guys are serious about going on, I'd love to join the team.
I've got a couple years of mechanical engineering experience, so I
could possibly be an asset to the team!!!
Brent
--- In az_vjc@y..., azvjc@a... wrote:
> Anyone watch this? In last night's show they had the teams
building
> monster trucks (Policemen vs Bikers). A little over a year ago,
this
> show contacted the AzVJC, but no-one replied. Anyone interested?
>
> Here is the original message from them:
>
> --------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Nat Grouille <nat@r...>
> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 12:26:32 +0100
> Subject: AZ_VJC Suggestions
> Message-ID: <2100BCED8BC8D111A6C800805F857F9C4EB99A@rdfex01>
>
> Hi to all at The Arizona Virtual Jeep Club,
>
> Here is a challenge for you.
>
> I am contacting you from a British TV company, we are looking for
> ingenious people to take part in a prime time engineering challenge
> for The Learning Channel. It's a race between two teams to build
> complex machines (amphibious vehicles, gliders, cannons!) entirely
> from old junk. The show is already a hit in the UK and is being
> filmed in London - the lucky teams will be flown over, all-
expenses
> paid. Check out www.tlc.com<http://www.tlc.com> (Junkyard Wars) for
> video clips and so forth.
>
> www.junkyard-wars.com<http://www.junkyard-wars.com> has details of
> how to apply and loads of neat information.
>
> Feel free to contact me at this address with any questions you have
> but be quick - the selection takes place in early June!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Thomas
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> (original post: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/az_vjc/message/9199)
31831 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 2:54pm
Subject: RE: Re: Junk Yard Wars
Calm down folks check out their website. I hate to burst your bubble but
if you are not on the list you are not on the list. They have stopped
taking applications. However you can get on their email list and you
will be notified of when they will start taking more applications. It
seems that they got quite a few for this year and are holding the extra
names for their next series. So it may be awhile. But I am sure it will
be worth the wait.
Good luck.
Joey K
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brent Lizakowski [mailto:brent_lizakowski@h...]
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 2:48 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Junk Yard Wars
>
>
> I'd love to go on that show!!!
>
> That show was my inspiration to go buy a welder and learn how to weld
> (still in the process, I've got the welder, but haven't used it too
> much).
>
> If you guys are serious about going on, I'd love to join the team.
> I've got a couple years of mechanical engineering experience, so I
> could possibly be an asset to the team!!!
>
> Brent
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., azvjc@a... wrote:
> > Anyone watch this? In last night's show they had the teams
> building
> > monster trucks (Policemen vs Bikers). A little over a year ago,
> this
> > show contacted the AzVJC, but no-one replied. Anyone interested?
> >
> > Here is the original message from them:
> >
> > --------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Nat Grouille <nat@r...>
> > Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 12:26:32 +0100
> > Subject: AZ_VJC Suggestions
> > Message-ID: <2100BCED8BC8D111A6C800805F857F9C4EB99A@rdfex01>
> >
> > Hi to all at The Arizona Virtual Jeep Club,
> >
> > Here is a challenge for you.
> >
> > I am contacting you from a British TV company, we are looking for
> > ingenious people to take part in a prime time engineering challenge
> > for The Learning Channel. It's a race between two teams to build
> > complex machines (amphibious vehicles, gliders, cannons!) entirely
> > from old junk. The show is already a hit in the UK and is
> being filmed
> > in London - the lucky teams will be flown over, all-
> expenses
> > paid. Check out www.tlc.com<http://www.tlc.com> (Junkyard Wars) for
> > video clips and so forth.
> >
> > www.junkyard-wars.com<http://www.junkyard-wars.com> has details of
> > how to apply and loads of neat information.
> >
> > Feel free to contact me at this address with any questions you have
> > but be quick - the selection takes place in early June!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > (original post: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/az_vjc/message/9199)
>
>
>
>
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31832 From: Chatfield, Mike <Mike@A...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 2:54pm
Subject: FW: FD PARADE
-----Original Message-----
From: djensen935@a... [mailto:djensen935@a...]
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 2:27 PM
To: Mike@a...
Subject: FD PARADE
CAN YOU PLEASE LET EVERYONE KNOW THEY NEED TO CALL CHRIS AT 602-871-4385 IF
INTERESTED SORRY TO BOTHER YOU BUT I CANT FIGURE OUT HOW TO POST THIS ON WEB
SITE.......ROOKIE DJENSEN
31833 From: tom lafrance <tlafrance@j...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 2:55pm
Subject: Wide track width??
Lets see who can answer the fastest ;-)
How much wider is a wide track vs a narrow track CJ ?
TIA,
Tom LaFrance
31834 From: Scott Legge <scottlegge@h...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 3:53pm
Subject: Re: Re: Junk Yard Wars
Heck I'd go! I would wrench like no other! I am young and energetic too :p I
could kick butt on that show! Talk about a man's heaven. But who has really
gone ot a junk yard and seen some of the stuff they pull out??? Come awn
get real! Half the parts are planted...
Scott Legge
> Who all wants to be a "wrench monkey?"
31835 From: Eric Herring <herring@q...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 4:04pm
Subject: RE: Re: Junk Yard Wars
WHAT? Are you telling me that most junk yards don't have rocket & steam
engines? ;)
Eric Herring 92XJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Legge [mailto:scottlegge@h...]
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 3:53 PM
To: AZVJC
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Junk Yard Wars
Heck I'd go! I would wrench like no other! I am young and energetic too :p I
could kick butt on that show! Talk about a man's heaven. But who has really
gone ot a junk yard and seen some of the stuff they pull out??? Come awn
get real! Half the parts are planted...
Scott Legge
> Who all wants to be a "wrench monkey?"
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31836 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 4:37pm
Subject: Re: Very politically incorrect t-shirts and stickers
Chris you have way too much time on your hands , but I love the Garden
of Eden bumper sticker!
Linda
Chris Krieg wrote:
>
> But they are good for us. Check this site out:
>
> http://www.crowley-offroad.com/
>
> Chris K
>
>
>
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31837 From: <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 4:52pm
Subject: RE kit is HERE!
My lift arrived today! So I guess the fun is on at Mr John
Butler's garage on Sunday. I need to know what everyone prefers to
eat/drink, and who is coming to help (so that I can bring the Brinks
truck to finance food!) :)
Lachlan
31838 From: <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 5:00pm
Subject: Thanks to toybox Off-Road
I would like to thank both the guys at Toybox Off-Road for
extending to me a GREAT price on my RE lift, and for making sure that
it got here in time by having RE Fed Ex it. Jay REFUSED to charge me
for the extra shipping cost, even though I threatened to take my
business elsewhere if he didn't let me pay it! LOL! It is customer
service that truly is noteworthy.
So, guys, thank you very much. I am now a very loyal Toybox Off-
Road customer. And I am even going to have a cool Toybox Off-Road
windshield sticker slapped on the glass. I know everybody who
doesn't have one is already jealous... :)
Lachlan
31839 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 5:09pm
Subject: Re: Very politically incorrect t-shirts and stickers
Personally, I like the "offroading is not a crime" t-shirt.
Chris
> From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
> Reply-To: minihummer@w...
> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 16:37:52 -0700
> To: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
> Cc: Virtual Jeep Club <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Very politically incorrect t-shirts and stickers
>
> Chris you have way too much time on your hands , but I love the Garden
> of Eden bumper sticker!
>
> Linda
>
> Chris Krieg wrote:
>>
>> But they are good for us. Check this site out:
>>
>> http://www.crowley-offroad.com/
>>
>> Chris K
>>
>>
>>
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31840 From: Blair <blairb20@h...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 5:16pm
Subject: TJ Bumper ends: free!
Hey there everyone. I'm getting ready to move, and I need to clear out some
of the crap so that I can clean a little easier. I'm sure I'll be finding
more odds and ends as I finish up, but for now all I've found are the
plastic bumper ends. I've got the front set and the rear set, both with
screws. Anyone need 'em? They're going in the trash otherwise. Oh... I also
found the little trumpet piece that comes out of the airbox, if anyone can
find a use for it, its yours.
-Blair
31841 From: Chris Meyer <chrismeyer@q...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 5:47pm
Subject: RE: Help My jeep is leaking AAHHHHh
I am having the same problem on my YJ with a 4.0. Just started to leak on
Monday, but not too terribly fast... then yesterday it was gushing. Last
night I grabbed hold of the hose and pushed it upward on to the engine block
to try and get it sealed... then today it wasn't leaking when I got to my
friends house this morning (carpool) then when I got to work it was leaking
again.
I plan on replacing the hose and clamps this weekend by myself... shouldn't
be that hard.. just a bit messy.
Ill let you know how it goes.
Chris
-94 YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Lee Dayley [mailto:webiknight@y...]
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 8:33 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Help My jeep is leaking AAHHHHh
I was driving home on Tuesday and found my Wrangler
overheating. I stopped and found my radiator empty.
Luckily I had some water with me, so I filled it up
and lucked under my jeep and had water dripping from
my engine. Finally got home, after 2 more fill ups,
and looked underneath. Looks like the seal/gasket
around the water pump is leaking. The water is coming
out from above the lower radiator hose next to the
block.
I have the 4 cyl. How difficult is it to replace the
water pump or is there a place in the east valley that
is resonable?
Just curious,
Lee
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31842 From: Anubis (Jason) <the_anubis@h...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 6:02pm
Subject: Re: Re: Pavilions Car show
How do I join the "Club" where is the meets and so on?
I have a 4x4 t100, 92 YJ, and 76 K10 4x4...
-Jason
P.S. I wouldn't mind lining up for the show!
----- Original Message -----
From: <trmn8rjn98@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 9:34 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Pavilions Car show
> Hi I was there to see some Jeeps but only was able to find a few out
> on the edges. I did see James' white sahara and a couple of others I
> did not know personally. Would love to see a good row of Jeeps in
> there I am real tired of looking at street cars these days.
> John
> P.S. James what did you do with your lic plate holder? I would be
> interested in buying it for my cj.
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
> > Mike,
> >
> > I thought I saw two of you there. I was trying to stay incogneato,
> it
> > being in Scottsdale and all. I figured I would stand half a chance
> > because it's only about a half mile from the freeway.
> > I thought they like that crome stuff up there? I not sure,
> althought
> > our vehicles are capable, that they (the locals) would see it that
> > way.
> > I am not sure how to get a row but maybe that would be worth it
> once
> > a month. We could actually let people touch our vehicles and maybe
> > have hand outs on "tread lightly" program.
> >
> > --James
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., jeepin_in_az@y... wrote:
> > > Me and Eric Herring met up there. It's nice to walk around and
> see
> > > the muscle cars and odities. Might want to skip the vette row,
> > just
> > > stock vettes sitting there.
> > >
> > > I was curious IF any club members would want to meet up there and
> > > maybe get a row for Jeeps or 4x4's. Then HOW would we go about
> > > getting the space reserved.
> > >
> > > Mike Baney
> > >
>
>
>
>
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>
>
31843 From: Anubis (Jason) <the_anubis@h...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 6:03pm
Subject: Re: Has anyone seen a FedEx truck?
I'm waiting on some tyre for my quad also :)
----- Original Message -----
From: <jeepindog@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 12:31 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Has anyone seen a FedEx truck?
> Ok, I'm sitting here by the door awaiting the FedEx guy and a
> truck full of hardware for the Jeep. If he comes today I can still
> make a plan to bolt my lift on at John Butler's house on Sunday. I
> will be gone all day tomorrow, so if it comes on Friday I won't know,
> and I won't be able to wait another week to bolt it on. Agh! The
> agony. Funny part, though, is that I don't have tires yet, so I'll
> be rolling around on the stockers until I get some meats. The Super
> Swampers developed a serious case of separation anxiety last week,
> and I had to revert to the tiny factory tires! I still can't believe
> that THREE out of four SSRs delaminated at the same time. Hugely out
> of round, they were 31" when measured from one direction, and across
> a perpendicular diameter measured 38"!!! Needless to say it was a
> very bumpy ride until I slowed down to about a dead stop. And talk
> about scary! Ever have that happen to a locked rear diff at highway
> speeds and you'll know what it's like to seriously need a fresh set
> of shorts!!! Not funny, BTW...
>
> Lachlan
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
31844 From: AzVJC Website <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 6:54pm
Subject: [TR] Martinez Canyon - Saturday, September 29, 2001 - Reminder
Hello All,
Jason LaLiberty is leading a Martinez Canyon trail run on Saturday, September 29, 2001.
When: 8:00am
Where: Meet at the turn to Florence off 60.
Rating: 4.0+
Length: 6-8 hours
CB Channel: 4
Never run this trail before, but would like to try it.
Martinez Canyon has to be one of the most beautiful canyons south of the Sedona AZ red bluffs. To reach the trailhead you travel over rolling hills of desert cactus, shrubs and trees. All of a sudden you enter a narrow passageway into a canyon of deep red bluffs and cottonwood trees.
Most of the year there is a spring that winds through the trees and low area. You will find the old homestead at the grouping of cottonwood trees along with some old mining generators and storerooms. Just past the homestead you will drop into the wash and follow it to the old mill.
The road winds back and forth across the wash as well as follows the wash for a time but the trail stays in the wash. You can spend hours "playing" on the rocks and waterfalls.
A mile or so into the wash you will approach a large landslide blocking the wash so the trail starts up the switchback trail "to the top of the world". The view from the top of the mountain is breathtaking.
As you start back down the switchback trail you will find it has been washed out, big time! The washout cuts through several of the "switchbacks" in a cut approximately 8 feet deep and 8 foot wide, so down you go. After a drop into the washout you will crank a hard left turn and literally freeslide on the loose gravel/dirt about 200 yards.
The first comment made from one of the original founders is the best description to the end of a great day of wheeling. "This is better than an 'E' Ticket ride at Disneyland! It's wheel'n the luge!"
This trail is definitely for the "extreme" vehicle as well as an experienced driver. Lockers are required and 33" tires and maximum clearance are a must.
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
Sign Up List:
Jason LaLiberty Definite
steve sample Definite
Tom Le Definite
Russell Gevarter Definite
Scott Grigsby Definite
steve sorensen Definite
Dennis Chamberlain Definite
Jim Florence Definite
Leonard Pennock Tentative
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
31845 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 7:57pm
Subject: [FS] FOR SALE Mountaineer Rear Rack w/ locking jack holder
Price: 139.95 new, will sacrafice for $90.00
Contact: EvilWarlock@aaahawk.com or call me on cell at 602-820-0569
Mountaineer Rack is black in color,for a T.J. only!! The rack bolts on to the middle roll bar and rear roll bar (no drilling required). The rack sits over the back of the rear passenger seat. I also installed a high lift jack holder onto the rear of the rack which works great!. There is nothing wrong with the rack very stable does not rattle, and can hold lots of weight. Great for the Offroad. The rack is about 6 months old. I will not need the rack anymore, with a HardTop.
Kevin Kilroy
31846 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 8:07pm
Subject: [FS] Deck Cover, Safari Bikini Top, Tinted Windjammer window
Price: Deck Cover $50.00, Safari Top $50.00, Tinted Windjammer $50.00.
Contact: Evil-Warlock@aaahawk.com
Will sell all 3 for $130.00 as a package deal. All the above items are in excellent shape, all are black in color. Only 4 months old!. The rear windjammer window is custom made with a dark tinted window. The plastic window does have 3 stickers on it, And I believe they can be removed with a label adhesive remover. It cost $75.00 to have the window made. And you cannot purchase a Windjammer tinted anywhere. Do not need the covers, will be purchasing a HardTop in the near future. Kevin
Kevin Kilroy
31847 From: <JNB4PLS@a...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 4:06pm
Subject: Wrenching Party Sunday Sept. 30th for Lachlan
It's a go. Lachlan got his RE lift today and were ready to help him put it in on Sunday. I think if we get started around 7:30AM we'll have plenty of time to get it done before it gets too damn hot. Mike Baney, don't forget the half inch drill and 5/8's bit. Anyone that would like to come and help or just hang out for a little while and talk Jeep is welcome. I live in the far East Valley, Ellsworth and Guadalupe area.
If you would like to come by please call me for directions.
My cell number is: (602) 432-0173
My home number is: (480) 354-9947
Friday will be the best day to get a hold of me as I will be in Prescott on Saturday.
Best Regards,
John Butler
31848 From: Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 8:15pm
Subject: OT: Shoot Ben
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31824 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 11:55am
Subject: Re: Re: Junk Yard Wars
How about nominating Joe West so he can baffel us all with techno numbers,
equations, and figures. That's SURE to scare the oposition! ;-)
(Just kidding Joe. Little humour in light of your past posts that delt with
figures!)
--
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31825 From: <jeeperaz@b...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 11:59am
Subject: Re: Need some help to findTire carrier hinges
I put together a page that may help or offer some ideas....
http://www.geocities.com/jeeperaz/bumper_carrier_info.html
--- In az_vjc@y..., stallonedev@y... wrote:
> Hello, I was wondering if someone know's a place that I can buy a
> Hinge for a tire carrier that I am building. I would like a hinge
> that connects to my bumper not a hinge that connects to the frame.
I
> need something that is going to very strong and that will be easy
to
> open and close. If anybody has any information of were I can find
> one I would apperciate it. Thanks Anthony
31826 From: Craig Micek <micekc@e...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 0:22pm
Subject: Re: Re: Need some help to findTire carrier hinges
Here is one ready to weld in. $40.
http://www.rockstomper.com/catalog/pieces/hinge.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: <jeeperaz@b...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 11:59 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Need some help to findTire carrier hinges
> I put together a page that may help or offer some ideas....
>
> http://www.geocities.com/jeeperaz/bumper_carrier_info.html
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., stallonedev@y... wrote:
> > Hello, I was wondering if someone know's a place that I can buy a
> > Hinge for a tire carrier that I am building. I would like a hinge
> > that connects to my bumper not a hinge that connects to the frame.
> I
> > need something that is going to very strong and that will be easy
> to
> > open and close. If anybody has any information of were I can find
> > one I would apperciate it. Thanks Anthony
>
>
>
>
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31827 From: <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 0:31pm
Subject: Has anyone seen a FedEx truck?
Ok, I'm sitting here by the door awaiting the FedEx guy and a
truck full of hardware for the Jeep. If he comes today I can still
make a plan to bolt my lift on at John Butler's house on Sunday. I
will be gone all day tomorrow, so if it comes on Friday I won't know,
and I won't be able to wait another week to bolt it on. Agh! The
agony. Funny part, though, is that I don't have tires yet, so I'll
be rolling around on the stockers until I get some meats. The Super
Swampers developed a serious case of separation anxiety last week,
and I had to revert to the tiny factory tires! I still can't believe
that THREE out of four SSRs delaminated at the same time. Hugely out
of round, they were 31" when measured from one direction, and across
a perpendicular diameter measured 38"!!! Needless to say it was a
very bumpy ride until I slowed down to about a dead stop. And talk
about scary! Ever have that happen to a locked rear diff at highway
speeds and you'll know what it's like to seriously need a fresh set
of shorts!!! Not funny, BTW...
Lachlan
31828 From: Blake Van de Loo <blake@m...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 0:54pm
Subject: RE: [Wanted] Used 35x12.5 tires
I have some 35 x 15.50 TSL SX's
Blake
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 9:55 PM
To: Virtual Jeep Club
Subject: [az_vjc] [Wanted] Used 35x12.5 tires
Anyone have any used 35x12.5 tires they might be selling sometime soon? My
Jeep is starting to look silly with 5.5 inches of lift and 33x10.5 tires.
Chris K
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31829 From: Baja Fleg <fleigle@h...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 1:32pm
Subject: Re: Junk Yard Wars
I was actually contact by Nathan from JYW's about a year ago to be the
expert in the baja and sandrail competition they did awhile back. I got as
far as making a short video and sending it in but had to back out at the
last min because of a new job that I had just got.
At the time they did film it in England and I was told they couldn't film it
in the US for insurance reasons. Also the contest does take place over a
few days but they only have 10 hours to go through the scrap pile and build
it the rest of the time is interviews and some saftey training. All those
times you see the hosts talk to them that doesn't count against their 10
hour time limit and when they are eating that doesn't count either. Right
before they run their machines they give them a few hours of "tinker time"
to fix anything small that might be wrong. The junkyard is seaded with
items that are necessary to meet the objective. Also the english lady host
was actually the one who came up with the idea of JYW's as an educational
show for younger people.
Fleg
----Original Message Follows----
Guys,
I think you will find this series is being filmed in the USA. I didn't see
anything English in the Junkyard this time. Even the old bus was now a
Brill and not a Duple as in past series. You don't get hills in the
distance like the skyline showed either.
Peter.
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31830 From: Brent Lizakowski <brent_lizakowski@h...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 2:47pm
Subject: Re: Junk Yard Wars
I'd love to go on that show!!!
That show was my inspiration to go buy a welder and learn how to weld
(still in the process, I've got the welder, but haven't used it too
much).
If you guys are serious about going on, I'd love to join the team.
I've got a couple years of mechanical engineering experience, so I
could possibly be an asset to the team!!!
Brent
--- In az_vjc@y..., azvjc@a... wrote:
> Anyone watch this? In last night's show they had the teams
building
> monster trucks (Policemen vs Bikers). A little over a year ago,
this
> show contacted the AzVJC, but no-one replied. Anyone interested?
>
> Here is the original message from them:
>
> --------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Nat Grouille <nat@r...>
> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 12:26:32 +0100
> Subject: AZ_VJC Suggestions
> Message-ID: <2100BCED8BC8D111A6C800805F857F9C4EB99A@rdfex01>
>
> Hi to all at The Arizona Virtual Jeep Club,
>
> Here is a challenge for you.
>
> I am contacting you from a British TV company, we are looking for
> ingenious people to take part in a prime time engineering challenge
> for The Learning Channel. It's a race between two teams to build
> complex machines (amphibious vehicles, gliders, cannons!) entirely
> from old junk. The show is already a hit in the UK and is being
> filmed in London - the lucky teams will be flown over, all-
expenses
> paid. Check out www.tlc.com<http://www.tlc.com> (Junkyard Wars) for
> video clips and so forth.
>
> www.junkyard-wars.com<http://www.junkyard-wars.com> has details of
> how to apply and loads of neat information.
>
> Feel free to contact me at this address with any questions you have
> but be quick - the selection takes place in early June!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Thomas
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> (original post: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/az_vjc/message/9199)
31831 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 2:54pm
Subject: RE: Re: Junk Yard Wars
Calm down folks check out their website. I hate to burst your bubble but
if you are not on the list you are not on the list. They have stopped
taking applications. However you can get on their email list and you
will be notified of when they will start taking more applications. It
seems that they got quite a few for this year and are holding the extra
names for their next series. So it may be awhile. But I am sure it will
be worth the wait.
Good luck.
Joey K
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brent Lizakowski [mailto:brent_lizakowski@h...]
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 2:48 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Junk Yard Wars
>
>
> I'd love to go on that show!!!
>
> That show was my inspiration to go buy a welder and learn how to weld
> (still in the process, I've got the welder, but haven't used it too
> much).
>
> If you guys are serious about going on, I'd love to join the team.
> I've got a couple years of mechanical engineering experience, so I
> could possibly be an asset to the team!!!
>
> Brent
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., azvjc@a... wrote:
> > Anyone watch this? In last night's show they had the teams
> building
> > monster trucks (Policemen vs Bikers). A little over a year ago,
> this
> > show contacted the AzVJC, but no-one replied. Anyone interested?
> >
> > Here is the original message from them:
> >
> > --------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Nat Grouille <nat@r...>
> > Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 12:26:32 +0100
> > Subject: AZ_VJC Suggestions
> > Message-ID: <2100BCED8BC8D111A6C800805F857F9C4EB99A@rdfex01>
> >
> > Hi to all at The Arizona Virtual Jeep Club,
> >
> > Here is a challenge for you.
> >
> > I am contacting you from a British TV company, we are looking for
> > ingenious people to take part in a prime time engineering challenge
> > for The Learning Channel. It's a race between two teams to build
> > complex machines (amphibious vehicles, gliders, cannons!) entirely
> > from old junk. The show is already a hit in the UK and is
> being filmed
> > in London - the lucky teams will be flown over, all-
> expenses
> > paid. Check out www.tlc.com<http://www.tlc.com> (Junkyard Wars) for
> > video clips and so forth.
> >
> > www.junkyard-wars.com<http://www.junkyard-wars.com> has details of
> > how to apply and loads of neat information.
> >
> > Feel free to contact me at this address with any questions you have
> > but be quick - the selection takes place in early June!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > (original post: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/az_vjc/message/9199)
>
>
>
>
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31832 From: Chatfield, Mike <Mike@A...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 2:54pm
Subject: FW: FD PARADE
-----Original Message-----
From: djensen935@a... [mailto:djensen935@a...]
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 2:27 PM
To: Mike@a...
Subject: FD PARADE
CAN YOU PLEASE LET EVERYONE KNOW THEY NEED TO CALL CHRIS AT 602-871-4385 IF
INTERESTED SORRY TO BOTHER YOU BUT I CANT FIGURE OUT HOW TO POST THIS ON WEB
SITE.......ROOKIE DJENSEN
31833 From: tom lafrance <tlafrance@j...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 2:55pm
Subject: Wide track width??
Lets see who can answer the fastest ;-)
How much wider is a wide track vs a narrow track CJ ?
TIA,
Tom LaFrance
31834 From: Scott Legge <scottlegge@h...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 3:53pm
Subject: Re: Re: Junk Yard Wars
Heck I'd go! I would wrench like no other! I am young and energetic too :p I
could kick butt on that show! Talk about a man's heaven. But who has really
gone ot a junk yard and seen some of the stuff they pull out??? Come awn
get real! Half the parts are planted...
Scott Legge
> Who all wants to be a "wrench monkey?"
31835 From: Eric Herring <herring@q...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 4:04pm
Subject: RE: Re: Junk Yard Wars
WHAT? Are you telling me that most junk yards don't have rocket & steam
engines? ;)
Eric Herring 92XJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Legge [mailto:scottlegge@h...]
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 3:53 PM
To: AZVJC
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Junk Yard Wars
Heck I'd go! I would wrench like no other! I am young and energetic too :p I
could kick butt on that show! Talk about a man's heaven. But who has really
gone ot a junk yard and seen some of the stuff they pull out??? Come awn
get real! Half the parts are planted...
Scott Legge
> Who all wants to be a "wrench monkey?"
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31836 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 4:37pm
Subject: Re: Very politically incorrect t-shirts and stickers
Chris you have way too much time on your hands , but I love the Garden
of Eden bumper sticker!
Linda
Chris Krieg wrote:
>
> But they are good for us. Check this site out:
>
> http://www.crowley-offroad.com/
>
> Chris K
>
>
>
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31837 From: <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 4:52pm
Subject: RE kit is HERE!
My lift arrived today! So I guess the fun is on at Mr John
Butler's garage on Sunday. I need to know what everyone prefers to
eat/drink, and who is coming to help (so that I can bring the Brinks
truck to finance food!) :)
Lachlan
31838 From: <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 5:00pm
Subject: Thanks to toybox Off-Road
I would like to thank both the guys at Toybox Off-Road for
extending to me a GREAT price on my RE lift, and for making sure that
it got here in time by having RE Fed Ex it. Jay REFUSED to charge me
for the extra shipping cost, even though I threatened to take my
business elsewhere if he didn't let me pay it! LOL! It is customer
service that truly is noteworthy.
So, guys, thank you very much. I am now a very loyal Toybox Off-
Road customer. And I am even going to have a cool Toybox Off-Road
windshield sticker slapped on the glass. I know everybody who
doesn't have one is already jealous... :)
Lachlan
31839 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 5:09pm
Subject: Re: Very politically incorrect t-shirts and stickers
Personally, I like the "offroading is not a crime" t-shirt.
Chris
> From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
> Reply-To: minihummer@w...
> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 16:37:52 -0700
> To: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
> Cc: Virtual Jeep Club <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Very politically incorrect t-shirts and stickers
>
> Chris you have way too much time on your hands , but I love the Garden
> of Eden bumper sticker!
>
> Linda
>
> Chris Krieg wrote:
>>
>> But they are good for us. Check this site out:
>>
>> http://www.crowley-offroad.com/
>>
>> Chris K
>>
>>
>>
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31840 From: Blair <blairb20@h...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 5:16pm
Subject: TJ Bumper ends: free!
Hey there everyone. I'm getting ready to move, and I need to clear out some
of the crap so that I can clean a little easier. I'm sure I'll be finding
more odds and ends as I finish up, but for now all I've found are the
plastic bumper ends. I've got the front set and the rear set, both with
screws. Anyone need 'em? They're going in the trash otherwise. Oh... I also
found the little trumpet piece that comes out of the airbox, if anyone can
find a use for it, its yours.
-Blair
31841 From: Chris Meyer <chrismeyer@q...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 5:47pm
Subject: RE: Help My jeep is leaking AAHHHHh
I am having the same problem on my YJ with a 4.0. Just started to leak on
Monday, but not too terribly fast... then yesterday it was gushing. Last
night I grabbed hold of the hose and pushed it upward on to the engine block
to try and get it sealed... then today it wasn't leaking when I got to my
friends house this morning (carpool) then when I got to work it was leaking
again.
I plan on replacing the hose and clamps this weekend by myself... shouldn't
be that hard.. just a bit messy.
Ill let you know how it goes.
Chris
-94 YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Lee Dayley [mailto:webiknight@y...]
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 8:33 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Help My jeep is leaking AAHHHHh
I was driving home on Tuesday and found my Wrangler
overheating. I stopped and found my radiator empty.
Luckily I had some water with me, so I filled it up
and lucked under my jeep and had water dripping from
my engine. Finally got home, after 2 more fill ups,
and looked underneath. Looks like the seal/gasket
around the water pump is leaking. The water is coming
out from above the lower radiator hose next to the
block.
I have the 4 cyl. How difficult is it to replace the
water pump or is there a place in the east valley that
is resonable?
Just curious,
Lee
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31842 From: Anubis (Jason) <the_anubis@h...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 6:02pm
Subject: Re: Re: Pavilions Car show
How do I join the "Club" where is the meets and so on?
I have a 4x4 t100, 92 YJ, and 76 K10 4x4...
-Jason
P.S. I wouldn't mind lining up for the show!
----- Original Message -----
From: <trmn8rjn98@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 9:34 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Pavilions Car show
> Hi I was there to see some Jeeps but only was able to find a few out
> on the edges. I did see James' white sahara and a couple of others I
> did not know personally. Would love to see a good row of Jeeps in
> there I am real tired of looking at street cars these days.
> John
> P.S. James what did you do with your lic plate holder? I would be
> interested in buying it for my cj.
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
> > Mike,
> >
> > I thought I saw two of you there. I was trying to stay incogneato,
> it
> > being in Scottsdale and all. I figured I would stand half a chance
> > because it's only about a half mile from the freeway.
> > I thought they like that crome stuff up there? I not sure,
> althought
> > our vehicles are capable, that they (the locals) would see it that
> > way.
> > I am not sure how to get a row but maybe that would be worth it
> once
> > a month. We could actually let people touch our vehicles and maybe
> > have hand outs on "tread lightly" program.
> >
> > --James
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., jeepin_in_az@y... wrote:
> > > Me and Eric Herring met up there. It's nice to walk around and
> see
> > > the muscle cars and odities. Might want to skip the vette row,
> > just
> > > stock vettes sitting there.
> > >
> > > I was curious IF any club members would want to meet up there and
> > > maybe get a row for Jeeps or 4x4's. Then HOW would we go about
> > > getting the space reserved.
> > >
> > > Mike Baney
> > >
>
>
>
>
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31843 From: Anubis (Jason) <the_anubis@h...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 6:03pm
Subject: Re: Has anyone seen a FedEx truck?
I'm waiting on some tyre for my quad also :)
----- Original Message -----
From: <jeepindog@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 12:31 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Has anyone seen a FedEx truck?
> Ok, I'm sitting here by the door awaiting the FedEx guy and a
> truck full of hardware for the Jeep. If he comes today I can still
> make a plan to bolt my lift on at John Butler's house on Sunday. I
> will be gone all day tomorrow, so if it comes on Friday I won't know,
> and I won't be able to wait another week to bolt it on. Agh! The
> agony. Funny part, though, is that I don't have tires yet, so I'll
> be rolling around on the stockers until I get some meats. The Super
> Swampers developed a serious case of separation anxiety last week,
> and I had to revert to the tiny factory tires! I still can't believe
> that THREE out of four SSRs delaminated at the same time. Hugely out
> of round, they were 31" when measured from one direction, and across
> a perpendicular diameter measured 38"!!! Needless to say it was a
> very bumpy ride until I slowed down to about a dead stop. And talk
> about scary! Ever have that happen to a locked rear diff at highway
> speeds and you'll know what it's like to seriously need a fresh set
> of shorts!!! Not funny, BTW...
>
> Lachlan
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
31844 From: AzVJC Website <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 6:54pm
Subject: [TR] Martinez Canyon - Saturday, September 29, 2001 - Reminder
Hello All,
Jason LaLiberty is leading a Martinez Canyon trail run on Saturday, September 29, 2001.
When: 8:00am
Where: Meet at the turn to Florence off 60.
Rating: 4.0+
Length: 6-8 hours
CB Channel: 4
Never run this trail before, but would like to try it.
Martinez Canyon has to be one of the most beautiful canyons south of the Sedona AZ red bluffs. To reach the trailhead you travel over rolling hills of desert cactus, shrubs and trees. All of a sudden you enter a narrow passageway into a canyon of deep red bluffs and cottonwood trees.
Most of the year there is a spring that winds through the trees and low area. You will find the old homestead at the grouping of cottonwood trees along with some old mining generators and storerooms. Just past the homestead you will drop into the wash and follow it to the old mill.
The road winds back and forth across the wash as well as follows the wash for a time but the trail stays in the wash. You can spend hours "playing" on the rocks and waterfalls.
A mile or so into the wash you will approach a large landslide blocking the wash so the trail starts up the switchback trail "to the top of the world". The view from the top of the mountain is breathtaking.
As you start back down the switchback trail you will find it has been washed out, big time! The washout cuts through several of the "switchbacks" in a cut approximately 8 feet deep and 8 foot wide, so down you go. After a drop into the washout you will crank a hard left turn and literally freeslide on the loose gravel/dirt about 200 yards.
The first comment made from one of the original founders is the best description to the end of a great day of wheeling. "This is better than an 'E' Ticket ride at Disneyland! It's wheel'n the luge!"
This trail is definitely for the "extreme" vehicle as well as an experienced driver. Lockers are required and 33" tires and maximum clearance are a must.
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
Sign Up List:
Jason LaLiberty Definite
steve sample Definite
Tom Le Definite
Russell Gevarter Definite
Scott Grigsby Definite
steve sorensen Definite
Dennis Chamberlain Definite
Jim Florence Definite
Leonard Pennock Tentative
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
31845 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 7:57pm
Subject: [FS] FOR SALE Mountaineer Rear Rack w/ locking jack holder
Price: 139.95 new, will sacrafice for $90.00
Contact: EvilWarlock@aaahawk.com or call me on cell at 602-820-0569
Mountaineer Rack is black in color,for a T.J. only!! The rack bolts on to the middle roll bar and rear roll bar (no drilling required). The rack sits over the back of the rear passenger seat. I also installed a high lift jack holder onto the rear of the rack which works great!. There is nothing wrong with the rack very stable does not rattle, and can hold lots of weight. Great for the Offroad. The rack is about 6 months old. I will not need the rack anymore, with a HardTop.
Kevin Kilroy
31846 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 8:07pm
Subject: [FS] Deck Cover, Safari Bikini Top, Tinted Windjammer window
Price: Deck Cover $50.00, Safari Top $50.00, Tinted Windjammer $50.00.
Contact: Evil-Warlock@aaahawk.com
Will sell all 3 for $130.00 as a package deal. All the above items are in excellent shape, all are black in color. Only 4 months old!. The rear windjammer window is custom made with a dark tinted window. The plastic window does have 3 stickers on it, And I believe they can be removed with a label adhesive remover. It cost $75.00 to have the window made. And you cannot purchase a Windjammer tinted anywhere. Do not need the covers, will be purchasing a HardTop in the near future. Kevin
Kevin Kilroy
31847 From: <JNB4PLS@a...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 4:06pm
Subject: Wrenching Party Sunday Sept. 30th for Lachlan
It's a go. Lachlan got his RE lift today and were ready to help him put it in on Sunday. I think if we get started around 7:30AM we'll have plenty of time to get it done before it gets too damn hot. Mike Baney, don't forget the half inch drill and 5/8's bit. Anyone that would like to come and help or just hang out for a little while and talk Jeep is welcome. I live in the far East Valley, Ellsworth and Guadalupe area.
If you would like to come by please call me for directions.
My cell number is: (602) 432-0173
My home number is: (480) 354-9947
Friday will be the best day to get a hold of me as I will be in Prescott on Saturday.
Best Regards,
John Butler
31848 From: Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Thu Sep 27, 2001 8:15pm
Subject: OT: Shoot Ben
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