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31473 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 9:03am
Subject: RE: ASA4WDC Jamboree
I am tail gunning Jaw Breaker on Friday, Running Axel alley on Saturday and
Upper Ajax on Sunday.
-----Original Message-----
From: ROBERT NYBERG [mailto:r.nyberg@w...]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 8:47 AM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] ASA4WDC Jamboree
Hey folks, are any of you going to the Jamboree this year? Kurt needs
your help. As of now there are 18 trail runs that need leaders and tail
gunners. If you would like to help out you will save $25.00 on
registration and get a free staff T shirt. I know some of these trails
are boring to some of you folks that need a challenge but just one trip
out of the four days would really help. Here is more info on what is
happening.
All,
There will be a Trip Leader/Tail End Meeting on Thursday evening,
September 27 , at 7:00 PM (6:00 PM if you want to eat dinner before
the meeting) at the Las Cazuelas Restaurant located at 1526 E. Main
Street in Mesa. It's between Stapley and Gilbert on the North side of
Main Street. I will be asking for your T-Shirt size at this meeting so
if you can not make this meeting, please e-mail it to me. Please pass
this information on to anyone I did not get on this e-mail list.
Thank you all for volunteering to be Trip Leaders/Tail Ends but as of
September 20th, there are still 18 Trails that need Trip Leaders.
Please ask your Club Members and 4X4 Friends if they would be interested
in leading any of these trails. You get $25 off your
Registration Fee and a Free Jamboree Staff T-Shirt.
I have scheduled the weekend of October 6&7 to do pre-runs starting at
9:00 AM both mornings. Yes I know this is Tucson's Trail Dust
Days weekend so if you are going to Tucson you will need to schedule
another time to pre-run your trail(s). I will be going out to the
Jamboree campsite Friday night through Sunday if anyone else wants to
camp out. Look for a '75 Yellow Bronco with no top or doors
parked by an Allegro Motorhome. I'm on CB Channel 4 and my Handle is
Big Bird. My RV Cell Phone number is 602-448-4798, my Alpha
Pager is 602-420-7799.
I look forward to seeing you all next Thursday.
Kurt Loga
2001 Jamboree Chairman
How bout it folks, any one want to help?
Bob
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31474 From: RICK BEER <RIKNAZ@M...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 9:01am
Subject: Fw: Bush speech
----- Original Message -----
From: Lenny Taylor
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 4:36 PM
To: Rick Biertempfel; David E. Dolinar; Mark Feydo; Mike Galon; Ron Safranco; Bill Schronz; linda taylor; Steve Taylor; Tom , Nicole Taylor
Subject: Fwd: Bush speech
>
> A friend sent this to me....
>
> Not in light of the tragedy, but this will make
> you laugh.
>
> If I were President George W. Bush's Speech
> Writer.
>
> Good evening my fellow Americans. First, I want
> to pass on my condolences to
> the people of New York and all Americans that
> are hurting in this tragic
> time. You can rest assured that anything and
> everything that can be done to
> assure the safety of our country will be done.
> This is the greatest country
> in the world and we will get through this
> trying time. Now is the time for
> all people to set aside our petty differences
> and show the world that no one
> or nothing can destroy the fortitude of the
> American people.
>
> To the people responsible for today's tragedy,
> I say this: Are you ****ing
> kidding me? Are the turbans on your heads
> wrapped too tight? Have you gone
> too long without a bath? Do you not know who
> you are ****ing with?
> Americans are so hungry to kill, that we shoot
> at each other every day. We
> will relish that opportunity for new targets
> for our aggression.
>
> Have you forgotten history? What happened to
> the last people that started
> ****ing around with us? Remember the little
> yellow *******s over in Japan?
> We slapped them all over the Pacific and
> roasted about 2 million of them in
> their own back yard. That's what we in America
> call a big *** barbecue.
> Ever seen Texas on a map? Ever wonder why it's
> so big? Because we wanted it
> that way, Mexico started jacking around with
> the Alamo and now they cut our
> lawns. England? We sent them packing.
>
> Ask your buddy Saddam about ****ing with the
> good 'ole USA. The only reason
> he got away the first time is because it's too
> hard to shoot someone when
> you're doubled over laughing at them. Our
> soldiers aren't trained to laugh
> and shoot at the same time. Now he couldn't
> stop a pack of cub scouts from
> taking over his ****ty little country.
>
> Trust us, Afghanistan will end up a giant kitty
> litter box. Go ahead and try
> to hide, Bin Laden. There's not a hole deep
> enough or a mountain high enough
> that's going to keep your camel riding asses
> safe. We will bomb every inch
> of the country that harbors him, his camps and
> any place that looks and even
> smells like he was there. Hell, we might even
> drop a few bombs on people
> that have pissed us off in the past. This is
> America. We kick ***. This is
> what we do. Go ahead and laugh now, but the
> Tomahawks are coming and we will
> smoke your sorry asses.
>
> God bless America!
>
>
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31475 From: <JNB4PLS@a...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 5:07am
Subject: Re: RE7000 4.5" lift
If I'm available on the weekend that's chosen I'll be there to help also.
John Butler
31476 From: Kevin Fell <kwfell@y...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 9:49am
Subject: ZJ coil rates
Linda:
RE was clueless when I called them for the same reason, but I was told by
Papromike, one of their retailers, that the rate was in fact 220psi, which
I believe because my previous Teraflex coils were rated at 205psi and these
RE springs feel slightly stiffer when I put them on. I believe the stock
rating was 167psi for non- u/c and 180psi for u/c models in the front and
150/165psi respectively in the rear. I did quite a study about a year or
so ago with respect to spring rate and lift kit setup. Here is more info
for anyone else who's interested:
'93=>'95 ZJ specs: ('96=>'98 MAY share specs)
-Stock shocks (non U/C)
front compressed- 13 3/4"
front extended- 21 3/4"
rear compressed- 13 1/4"
rear extended- 21 1/2"
-RS 9000's
front(9179)compressed- 14 3/4"
front(9179)extended- 23 1/8"
rear(9116)compressed- 14 7/8"
rear(9116)extended- 23 7/8"
-Bilstein BE5 series (claiming 10" of travel)
front(6248)- 26" extended
rear(6249)- 29.7" extended
-Stock front coils- 17 1/2" @167psi (non UC)
-Stock rear coils- 14 1/4" @150psi (non UC)
-Rusty's 3" coils- 22 1/4" @150psi
ProComp 3" front coils (for XJ and ZJ) - 18.3" @230psi (9.5 coils)
ProComp 3" rear coils - 15.8 @188psi (8.5 coils)
Rancho 3" front coils (for XJ and ZJ) - 18.5" @240psi
Rancho 3" rear coils - 15" @200psi
Hope that helps you out and may give you some perspective, Linda.
=Kevin=
*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
On 9/21/2001 at 11:40 AM az_vjc@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 20:18:11 -0700
> From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
>Subject: Interesting ZJ coil compression information
>
>I got a 4.5" replacement front coil from RE. RE refused to provide
>compression information.
>
>The new coil is 22.75" long, 13.25 windings, 5/6" (.625) wire, max
>compression 13.20" (if possible).
>
>We set up a coil compression measuring device in the barn using a
>Health-O-Meter bathroom balance scale (bubble level, accurate to within
>1/4-lb) on the 20-ton press. We used a Sears Craftsman measuring tape to
>determine when the coil had compressed 1-inch. And a couple of pieces of
>wood
>
>The new RE 4.5" coil compresses at approx 170-lbs/in.
>
>We found a factory ZJ front coil (1993, 4.0l, 4x4). The factory coil
>compression was approx 110-lbs/in.
>
>Neither coil is progressive.
>
>We will be measuring the old (possibly prototype) RE 4.5" front coils
>that I got back in 1997. I suspect their compression rate will be about
>140-lbs/in.
>
>Methinks that the new RE coil was designed for a V8 w/ARB bumper and
>winch. It most certainly will be a less than desirable coil for a 4.0l
>with no ARB bumper or winch.
>
>I will be putting the coils on just to get the ZJ back on the road and
>will most likely be ordering custom coils from National.
>
>Anybody have an email address for Ryan Wallace? He worked (owned?)
>Rubicon Express back in 1997. I would like to find out what happened
>with the coil springs and the changes made to the RE control arms.
>
>Linda
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31477 From: Chatfield, Mike <Mike@A...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 9:50am
Subject: Three (or more?) Club members in the Optima Offroad Contest
Hey all, there is (at least) three AzVJC members to vote for on the Optima
Offroad Contest.
Lets get a club member to win this! Get over there and vote!
http://www.optimaoffroadcontest.com/vote.asp
<http://www.optimaoffroadcontest.com/vote.asp>
1. Who can miss that fun noodle mobile of Sharky Kenner? (First Page, Last
Row, Right Side)
2. Then there is Steve Meyer who laid his jeep on it side just for the
contest... just kidding. (Second Page, 3rd Row, Left Side)
3. Your's truly on Lower Woodpecker at last year's Christmas Party (Second
Page, 3rd Row, Right Side)
According to the Optima website, you can "Vote early, Vote Often" so go out
there and vote until your heart's content.
Thanks,
- Mike
31478 From: Tom LaFrance <tlafrance@j...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 9:58am
Subject: More CCW info
FYI there have been a few changes in the last couple of years:
>Another note to add....If you get a ccw, it flags your personal police
file
>that you carry concealed. If a cop pulls you over, they will no that you
>have a ccw permit when the run your info.
NOT TRUE anymore according to DPS. The only way to get your CCW info now
is to run a separate CCW check. Evidently it caused some confusion
amongst officers because it was a similar warning to a dangerous felon
when they did an id check.
>I was a federally licensed firearms dealer for many years and the
>law in AZ is if it is in a holster you can keep it just about anywhere
you
>want. Your glove box, center consol, under your seat, etc. One major
thing
>to know is if you get pulled over by the police the first thing you need
to
>do is tell him you have a firearm in you vehicle. He will ask you for it
and
>after he is has finished his business with you he will return it.
NOT TRUE anymore. FACT, you only need to tell an officer you are armed
or in possession of a CCW if he asks. Regardless, I still hand over my
license and permit at the same time as a matter of courtesy.
Tom LaFrance
31479 From: <fmw@q...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 10:40am
Subject: Re: ZJ coil rates
Interesting stuff. I'm slightly confused on how one determines spring rate.
You say 175lbs/inch. I read that to mean, if I put 175 lbs on the spring,
say via a press, it'll compress 1".. Is that right ??
Thanks,
Fred
At 09:49 AM 09/21/2001 -0700, kwfell@y... wrote:
>Linda:
>RE was clueless when I called them for the same reason, but I was told by
>Papromike, one of their retailers, that the rate was in fact 220psi, which
>I believe because my previous Teraflex coils were rated at 205psi and these
>RE springs feel slightly stiffer when I put them on. I believe the stock
>rating was 167psi for non- u/c and 180psi for u/c models in the front and
>150/165psi respectively in the rear. I did quite a study about a year or
>so ago with respect to spring rate and lift kit setup. Here is more info
>for anyone else who's interested:
>
>'93=>'95 ZJ specs: ('96=>'98 MAY share specs)
>-Stock shocks (non U/C)
>front compressed- 13 3/4"
>front extended- 21 3/4"
>rear compressed- 13 1/4"
>rear extended- 21 1/2"
>-RS 9000's
>front(9179)compressed- 14 3/4"
>front(9179)extended- 23 1/8"
>rear(9116)compressed- 14 7/8"
>rear(9116)extended- 23 7/8"
>-Bilstein BE5 series (claiming 10" of travel)
>front(6248)- 26" extended
>rear(6249)- 29.7" extended
>
>
>-Stock front coils- 17 1/2" @167psi (non UC)
>-Stock rear coils- 14 1/4" @150psi (non UC)
>-Rusty's 3" coils- 22 1/4" @150psi
>ProComp 3" front coils (for XJ and ZJ) - 18.3" @230psi (9.5 coils)
>ProComp 3" rear coils - 15.8 @188psi (8.5 coils)
>Rancho 3" front coils (for XJ and ZJ) - 18.5" @240psi
>Rancho 3" rear coils - 15" @200psi
>
>Hope that helps you out and may give you some perspective, Linda.
>=Kevin=
>
>
>*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
>
>On 9/21/2001 at 11:40 AM az_vjc@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
>> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 20:18:11 -0700
>> From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
>>Subject: Interesting ZJ coil compression information
>>
>>I got a 4.5" replacement front coil from RE. RE refused to provide
>>compression information.
>>
>>The new coil is 22.75" long, 13.25 windings, 5/6" (.625) wire, max
>>compression 13.20" (if possible).
>>
>>We set up a coil compression measuring device in the barn using a
>>Health-O-Meter bathroom balance scale (bubble level, accurate to within
>>1/4-lb) on the 20-ton press. We used a Sears Craftsman measuring tape to
>>determine when the coil had compressed 1-inch. And a couple of pieces of
>>wood
>>
>>The new RE 4.5" coil compresses at approx 170-lbs/in.
>>
>>We found a factory ZJ front coil (1993, 4.0l, 4x4). The factory coil
>>compression was approx 110-lbs/in.
>>
>>Neither coil is progressive.
>>
>>We will be measuring the old (possibly prototype) RE 4.5" front coils
>>that I got back in 1997. I suspect their compression rate will be about
>>140-lbs/in.
>>
>>Methinks that the new RE coil was designed for a V8 w/ARB bumper and
>>winch. It most certainly will be a less than desirable coil for a 4.0l
>>with no ARB bumper or winch.
>>
>>I will be putting the coils on just to get the ZJ back on the road and
>>will most likely be ordering custom coils from National.
>>
>>Anybody have an email address for Ryan Wallace? He worked (owned?)
>>Rubicon Express back in 1997. I would like to find out what happened
>>with the coil springs and the changes made to the RE control arms.
>>
>>Linda
>
>
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31480 From: Matt Ulepic <mulepic@h...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 10:45am
Subject: Re: Propane is Awesome!!!
I'd be interested in what's your cost per mile w/ the alt-fuel?
Thanks,
Matt
----- Original Message -----
From: <nearbeer16@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 6:50 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Propane is Awesome!!!
> Since reading all the posts here and getting ideas from alot of you
> about mods, I've decided to do a big one. Since some of you seem to
> have everything imaginable on your jeeps, everything, I've decided to
> convert my jeep to propane. See I camp alot and I figured this would
> serve many purposes. Now my propane jeep can also run my stove, my
> lanterns as well as a nice sized heating unit so on those cold winter
> nights I'll be nice and warm. It's also much quieter. Sounds like my
> honda, I love it. I've built a rack on the back next to the tire that
> carries additional containers of propane. It's Way Cool, so long as
> I don't get into a wreck, shot at or stuck in fire, it'll be
> awesome!!!!
>
> Happy hump day!
>
>
>
>
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31481 From: James Smith <jeepinsmitty@y...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 11:02am
Subject: Re: roll bar pads
Yeah, Yeah.. You can thank my wife for that one!! lol
Oh by the way,
Since the summer is over, I have some fun noodles I am
willing to part with, they are a variety of colors.
Pink, Blue, and Orange, and I think I may have a
purple one out there too.
TTYL,
Smitty
--- sharxjeep@c... wrote:
> Ouch ...that hurts...see what you started Smitty
> :)
>
> P.S. Shasta is all out, so I dont know what to tell
> you :)
>
> Sharky and the fun noodle mobile
>
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31482 From: Brian Pavlich <brian.pavlich@i...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 11:11am
Subject: Aquiring AZ STLU Permits.
State Trust Land Use permit:
Is there a more expedicious way to go about getting one of these permits?
All I could seem to find is a phone#: 602-364-2753
Its a recording that asks to leave your address etc and an application will be mailed to you. I doubt that I could get one before this weekend through this method.
Is there an office I could go to or something? The http://www.land.state.az.us/ page is miserably lacking any information regarding this, and the only way I got the phone number is by calling the BLM office..
I want to comply, but why the heck is this information so obscure and not easily attainable?
Please help! Thanks.
- Brian (Zoner)
31483 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 11:21am
Subject: RE: Aquiring AZ STLU Permits.
If you live in the valley the quickest way would be to go downtown to 1616 W Adams near the capitol. Apply, pay then recieve your permit right there.
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Pavlich [mailto:brian.pavlich@igets.net]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 11:11 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Aquiring AZ STLU Permits.
State Trust Land Use permit:
Is there a more expedicious way to go about getting one of these permits?
All I could seem to find is a phone#: 602-364-2753
Its a recording that asks to leave your address etc and an application will be mailed to you. I doubt that I could get one before this weekend through this method.
Is there an office I could go to or something? The http://www.land.state.az.us/ page is miserably lacking any information regarding this, and the only way I got the phone number is by calling the BLM office..
I want to comply, but why the heck is this information so obscure and not easily attainable?
Please help! Thanks.
- Brian (Zoner)
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31484 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 0:26pm
Subject: [FS] Grey TJ seats
Price: $250 obo
Contact: 480-575-3238
No rips/tears, approx 16K miles on the seats. Grey in color. Nice condition. Call 480-575-3238 $250 obo. Thanks!
Matt Osgood
31485 From: Mike Beach <mikebeach2002@y...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 0:29pm
Subject: Re: Pavilions this week???
--- my1stjeep@e... wrote:
> I thought I remembered someone mentioning going ot
> the Pavilions thi
> weekend. Do they still hang out on Saturday night?
> Is anyone going?
> Please let me know if you are going, my email is
> till down, I will
> check back here, but you can also call me.
>
> Today at work: 480-774-4661
> Pager: 602-871-4385
>
> Thanks.
>
> Chris R.
>
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>
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>
Yeah, lets do it. I work 8-5 on Saturday so lets go.
Call me
Mike
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31486 From: Chatfield, Mike <Mike@A...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 0:31pm
Subject: FW: ASU and the American Flag
-----Original Message-----
From: Lattie Coor [mailto:Lattie.Coor@a...]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 11:51 AM
To: 'Mike@A...'
Talk radio reports suggesting ASU is not flying the American flag is just
categorically wrong. We are proudly displaying American flags throughout
the campus and have been doing so throughout these tragic events.
Attached is a statement providing more details.
Lattie F. Coor
President
Arizona State University
Media Relations and Public Information Office
www.asu.edu/asunews
Keith Jennings, k.jennings@a...
(480) 965-3504
September 20, 2001
Arizona State University proudly displays American flags.
Contrary to some statements made on talk radio and picked up
nationally, Arizona State University is not removing American flags from the
university campus.
The radio discussion stems from a decision by a cafeteria employee,
in a misinterpretation of ASU policy, to remove an American flag that was
hung in a cafeteria on the ASU campus in Tempe.
Several Associated Students of ASU student senators were upset over
the removal of the flag and introduced a resolution to the student senate to
condemn the operator of the cafeteria. The student senators could not agree
on the wording of the resolution and as a result, the resolution did not
pass.
The policy that was misinterpreted requires student groups and
organizations to get permission before hanging posters, banners or any other
material in the cafeteria area.
Students who posted the flag in the cafeteria did so without talking
with anyone, resulting in the misinterpretation of the policy.
ASU regrets the misunderstanding and apologizes to anyone who was
offended by the initial removal of the flag. The university is working to
ensure that such misunderstandings do not happen again.
The American flag has been replaced and is now hanging in the cafeteria.
The ASU campus is adorned with flags. Students at Manzanita Hall have
turned their windows into a giant American flag. Other residence halls
feature flags hanging in many windows. The Memorial Union at ASU has a
large flag prominently displayed and door handles feature ribbons in
patriotic colors.
ASU also flies several American flags on a permanent basis on all of its
campus locations: near Gammage Auditorium, at the Karsten Golf Course, the
ASU Downtown Center, ASU East and ASU West.
In addition, the "A" on "A" Mountain in Tempe has been painted in patriotic
colors for more than a week.
Like the rest of the country, everyone at ASU has been deeply
affected by the tragic and horrific events in New York and Washington that
claimed more than 5,500 lives.
Since the Sept. 11 attacks on our country, ASU has shown its
patriotism and concern in numerous ways, including flying the American flag
at half staff, holding memorials, prayer vigils, panel discussions,
fundraising events, blood drives and counseling sessions.
ASU President Lattie Coor addressed the campus community during a
vigil on campus a week ago. The text of those remarks is available on-line
at (www.asu.edu/asunews/Releases/Coorspeech0901.htm/).
All of us at ASU understand that this is a time of great stress for
everyone and we will do everything possible to insure the physical and
emotional safety of all members of the university community.
31487 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 0:33pm
Subject: [Fwd: RE: U.S. Flag on A.S.U. Campus]
Below is a reply to my email requesting Lattie Coor, President of ASU, to restore
the flying of the American flag on the ASU campus. I am satisfied with the reply
and have thanked Mr. Coor.
-Roger
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: U.S. Flag on A.S.U. Campus
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 11:55:12 -0700
From: Lattie Coor <Lattie.Coor@a...>
To: "'tomasr@a...'" <tomasr@a...>
Talk radio reports suggesting ASU is not flying the American flag is just categorically wrong. We are proudly displaying American flags throughout the campus and have been doing
so throughout these tragic events.
Attached is a statement providing more details.
Lattie F. Coor
President
Arizona State University
Media Relations and Public Information Office
www.asu.edu/asunews
Keith Jennings, k.jennings@a...
(480) 965-3504
September 20, 2001
Arizona State University proudly displays American flags.
Contrary to some statements made on talk radio and picked up nationally, Arizona State University is not removing American flags from the university campus.
The radio discussion stems from a decision by a cafeteria employee, in a misinterpretation of ASU policy, to remove an American flag that was hung in a cafeteria on the ASU
campus in Tempe.
Several Associated Students of ASU student senators were upset over the removal of the flag and introduced a resolution to the student senate to condemn the operator of the
cafeteria. The student senators could not agree on the wording of the resolution and as a result, the resolution did not pass.
The policy that was misinterpreted requires student groups and organizations to get permission before hanging posters, banners or any other material in the cafeteria area.
Students who posted the flag in the cafeteria did so without talking with anyone, resulting in the misinterpretation of the policy.
ASU regrets the misunderstanding and apologizes to anyone who was offended by the initial removal of the flag. The university is working to ensure that such
misunderstandings do not happen again.
The American flag has been replaced and is now hanging in the cafeteria.
The ASU campus is adorned with flags. Students at Manzanita Hall have turned their windows into a giant American flag. Other residence halls feature flags hanging in many
windows. The Memorial Union at ASU has a large flag prominently displayed and door handles feature ribbons in patriotic colors.
ASU also flies several American flags on a permanent basis on all of its campus locations: near Gammage Auditorium, at the Karsten Golf Course, the ASU Downtown Center, ASU East
and ASU West.
In addition, the "A" on "A" Mountain in Tempe has been painted in patriotic colors for more than a week.
Like the rest of the country, everyone at ASU has been deeply affected by the tragic and horrific events in New York and Washington that claimed more than 5,500 lives.
Since the Sept. 11 attacks on our country, ASU has shown its patriotism and concern in numerous ways, including flying the American flag at half staff, holding memorials,
prayer vigils, panel discussions, fundraising events, blood drives and counseling sessions.
ASU President Lattie Coor addressed the campus community during a vigil on campus a week ago. The text of those remarks is available on-line at
(www.asu.edu/asunews/Releases/Coorspeech0901.htm/).
All of us at ASU understand that this is a time of great stress for everyone and we will do everything possible to insure the physical and emotional safety of all members
of the university community.
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 2:21 PM
To: Lattie.Coor@a...
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: U.S. Flag on A.S.U. Campus
Dear Mr. Coor,
My name is Roger Tomas and I am an alumni of A.S.U. I've recently heard
about a decision not to fly the American flag on the A.S.U. campus due
to the possibility that certain people may be offended. This is an
outrage. It is an embarassment to our country and an insult to those
who have fought for our freedoms - especially to those who have made
the ultimate sacrifice. It is also an insult to the victims of the
recent terrorist attacks. We are currently in a period of mourning
and flags are to be flown at half-mast in memorium to those victims.
If what I've heard is incorrect and my comments are unwarranted, please
accept my apology. Otherwise, I ask that you please correct this wrong.
Thank you.
Roger Tomas
College of Engineering and Applied Sciences
Class of '84
31488 From: Baja Fleg <fleigle@h...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 0:50pm
Subject: RE: Bad Image
Where and what are these pavilions? I'm not exactly new to the area but
haven't technically lived here long due to my jobs travel requirements.
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31489 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 1:07pm
Subject: Re: Bad Image
The Pavillions is a shopping center at Pima andIndian Bend Roads
over in Scottsdale. Don't confuse it with the Bell Pavillions
which is at Bell Road and I-17.
-Roger
Baja Fleg wrote:
>
> Where and what are these pavilions? I'm not exactly new to the area but
> haven't technically lived here long due to my jobs travel requirements.
31490 From: David Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 1:35pm
Subject: Re: Run For Charity
great idea
----Original Message Follows----
From: ROBERT NYBERG
Reply-To: r.nyberg@worldnet.att.net
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Run For Charity
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:22:51 -0700
Why not just have a run of some type ( through town ) to raise money for
the Red Cross or ? to help with the disaster. I would be willing to help
and as the Wheel Dust editor I could mail invites to another 1050
people. We would have a possibility of over 2000 4 X 4 vehicles in a
line. Even if only a small percentage could make it, it would be a heck
of a showing for our sport and the GOOD we do. Just a thought.
Bob
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31491 From: Chatfield, Mike <Mike@A...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 2:38pm
Subject: FW: Fire Prevention Parade
Hey everyone,
How about it, lets get some Jeeps out there for this! On one of the Jeeps,
we should be able to display our banner.
Contact Dave Jensen ( DJENSEN935@A... <mailto:DJENSEN935@A...> ) for
more info.
- Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: djensen935@a... [mailto:djensen935@a...]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:24 PM
To: Mike@a...
Subject: Fire Prevention Parade
Hey mike I'm e-mailing you because you seem like you are well connected to
the jeep club. I work for Glendale Fire Dept. And we are having our annual
parade and static display on Oct 6 through downtown Glendale we usually have
a pretty awesome turnout of fire apparatus police military(I Don't think
they will make it this year) boy and girl scouts cheerleaders etc...... I
would like to see some Jeeps with large American flags cruisin' old town
Glendale..... I will be in parade (but not in my jeep) I will be driving
some kids that are involved in the mayors youth group...but I would like
some Jeeps too......I have info for registration but it has got to be
ASAP!!!! I also put it on the events list on AzVJC home page...let me know
if you can help out thanks Dave Jensen
31492 From: <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 3:10pm
Subject: Re: FW: Fire Prevention Parade
I will be there! Please let me know more Mike. Does this mean I
have to wash my Jeep first???
Mike Baney
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Chatfield, Mike" <Mike@A...> wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> How about it, lets get some Jeeps out there for this! On one of
the Jeeps,
> we should be able to display our banner.
> Contact Dave Jensen ( DJENSEN935@A... <mailto:DJENSEN935@A...> ) for
> more info.
>
> - Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: djensen935@a... [mailto:djensen935@a...]
> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:24 PM
> To: Mike@a...
> Subject: Fire Prevention Parade
>
>
> Hey mike I'm e-mailing you because you seem like you are well
connected to
> the jeep club. I work for Glendale Fire Dept. And we are having our
annual
> parade and static display on Oct 6 through downtown Glendale we
usually have
> a pretty awesome turnout of fire apparatus police military(I Don't
think
> they will make it this year) boy and girl scouts cheerleaders
etc...... I
> would like to see some Jeeps with large American flags cruisin' old
town
> Glendale..... I will be in parade (but not in my jeep) I will be
driving
> some kids that are involved in the mayors youth group...but I would
like
> some Jeeps too......I have info for registration but it has got to
be
> ASAP!!!! I also put it on the events list on AzVJC home page...let
me know
> if you can help out thanks Dave Jensen
31493 From: <Mike@A...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 3:22pm
Subject: Re: FW: Fire Prevention Parade
Contact Dave Jensen (DJensen935@A...)
--- In az_vjc@y..., jeepin_in_az@y... wrote:
> I will be there! Please let me know more Mike. Does this mean I
> have to wash my Jeep first???
>
> Mike Baney
31494 From: <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 3:25pm
Subject: Re: FW: Fire Prevention Parade
I am interested too!!! Love to display my pride in America as well as
my Jeep.
Yes Mike baney you will have to wash it, might want to wash it this
weekend, that way you can fix whatever the dust was holding
together...LOL.
Chris R.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
--- In az_vjc@y..., jeepin_in_az@y... wrote:
> I will be there! Please let me know more Mike. Does this mean I
> have to wash my Jeep first???
>
> Mike Baney
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Chatfield, Mike" <Mike@A...> wrote:
> > Hey everyone,
> >
> > How about it, lets get some Jeeps out there for this! On one of
> the Jeeps,
> > we should be able to display our banner.
> > Contact Dave Jensen ( DJENSEN935@A... <mailto:DJENSEN935@A...> )
for
> > more info.
> >
> > - Mike
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: djensen935@a... [mailto:djensen935@a...]
> > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:24 PM
> > To: Mike@a...
> > Subject: Fire Prevention Parade
> >
> >
> > Hey mike I'm e-mailing you because you seem like you are well
> connected to
> > the jeep club. I work for Glendale Fire Dept. And we are having
our
> annual
> > parade and static display on Oct 6 through downtown Glendale we
> usually have
> > a pretty awesome turnout of fire apparatus police military(I Don't
> think
> > they will make it this year) boy and girl scouts cheerleaders
> etc...... I
> > would like to see some Jeeps with large American flags cruisin'
old
> town
> > Glendale..... I will be in parade (but not in my jeep) I will be
> driving
> > some kids that are involved in the mayors youth group...but I
would
> like
> > some Jeeps too......I have info for registration but it has got to
> be
> > ASAP!!!! I also put it on the events list on AzVJC home page...let
> me know
> > if you can help out thanks Dave Jensen
31495 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 3:53pm
Subject: [FS] Chrome Spokes off 98TJ 15x8
Price: $40 obo
Contact: ricknhall@home.com
These are in good shape 5 / 4.5 but do have some scars on the edges. Straight and the vavles shouldn't need replacing. They are the standard Chrome spkoes all of the tire shops sell for 35 to 45 $$
Rick
Rick Hall
31496 From: David R. W. Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 3:54pm
Subject: Torch to heat and bend back control arm bracket?
If anyone has on, please call me this weekend.
David R. W. Withers
Network Engineer/ Senior QA Engineer
È 480-215-6992
' 480-551-4667
dwithers@atstraffic.com
31497 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 3:56pm
Subject: [FS] Sony CD Player
Price: $100
Contact: 480-332-5704
Sony CDX-4000X CD Receiver
SSIR-EXA Tuner
18FM+12AM Presets
Station Memo(TM)
Best Tuning Memory
8fs; 1-Bit; CD-R Playback
Loudness
Red Key Illumination
13-Seg, White/3 Color Neg LCD
60 Degree Installation
Telephone Attenuate
Rotary Encoder w/Cross Key
CD/MD/TV Control w/Custom File(TM) CD Text(TM)
50x4 Design, 2 4-volt Preouts
Flip-down Detachable Faceplate
White LED; 2-color Key Illumination
Will also include required TJ wiring harness and mounting kit.
Just cleaned yesterday by Circuit City (came with a free cleaning). Excellent condition.
Dan Coley
31473 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 9:03am
Subject: RE: ASA4WDC Jamboree
I am tail gunning Jaw Breaker on Friday, Running Axel alley on Saturday and
Upper Ajax on Sunday.
-----Original Message-----
From: ROBERT NYBERG [mailto:r.nyberg@w...]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 8:47 AM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] ASA4WDC Jamboree
Hey folks, are any of you going to the Jamboree this year? Kurt needs
your help. As of now there are 18 trail runs that need leaders and tail
gunners. If you would like to help out you will save $25.00 on
registration and get a free staff T shirt. I know some of these trails
are boring to some of you folks that need a challenge but just one trip
out of the four days would really help. Here is more info on what is
happening.
All,
There will be a Trip Leader/Tail End Meeting on Thursday evening,
September 27 , at 7:00 PM (6:00 PM if you want to eat dinner before
the meeting) at the Las Cazuelas Restaurant located at 1526 E. Main
Street in Mesa. It's between Stapley and Gilbert on the North side of
Main Street. I will be asking for your T-Shirt size at this meeting so
if you can not make this meeting, please e-mail it to me. Please pass
this information on to anyone I did not get on this e-mail list.
Thank you all for volunteering to be Trip Leaders/Tail Ends but as of
September 20th, there are still 18 Trails that need Trip Leaders.
Please ask your Club Members and 4X4 Friends if they would be interested
in leading any of these trails. You get $25 off your
Registration Fee and a Free Jamboree Staff T-Shirt.
I have scheduled the weekend of October 6&7 to do pre-runs starting at
9:00 AM both mornings. Yes I know this is Tucson's Trail Dust
Days weekend so if you are going to Tucson you will need to schedule
another time to pre-run your trail(s). I will be going out to the
Jamboree campsite Friday night through Sunday if anyone else wants to
camp out. Look for a '75 Yellow Bronco with no top or doors
parked by an Allegro Motorhome. I'm on CB Channel 4 and my Handle is
Big Bird. My RV Cell Phone number is 602-448-4798, my Alpha
Pager is 602-420-7799.
I look forward to seeing you all next Thursday.
Kurt Loga
2001 Jamboree Chairman
How bout it folks, any one want to help?
Bob
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31474 From: RICK BEER <RIKNAZ@M...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 9:01am
Subject: Fw: Bush speech
----- Original Message -----
From: Lenny Taylor
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 4:36 PM
To: Rick Biertempfel; David E. Dolinar; Mark Feydo; Mike Galon; Ron Safranco; Bill Schronz; linda taylor; Steve Taylor; Tom , Nicole Taylor
Subject: Fwd: Bush speech
>
> A friend sent this to me....
>
> Not in light of the tragedy, but this will make
> you laugh.
>
> If I were President George W. Bush's Speech
> Writer.
>
> Good evening my fellow Americans. First, I want
> to pass on my condolences to
> the people of New York and all Americans that
> are hurting in this tragic
> time. You can rest assured that anything and
> everything that can be done to
> assure the safety of our country will be done.
> This is the greatest country
> in the world and we will get through this
> trying time. Now is the time for
> all people to set aside our petty differences
> and show the world that no one
> or nothing can destroy the fortitude of the
> American people.
>
> To the people responsible for today's tragedy,
> I say this: Are you ****ing
> kidding me? Are the turbans on your heads
> wrapped too tight? Have you gone
> too long without a bath? Do you not know who
> you are ****ing with?
> Americans are so hungry to kill, that we shoot
> at each other every day. We
> will relish that opportunity for new targets
> for our aggression.
>
> Have you forgotten history? What happened to
> the last people that started
> ****ing around with us? Remember the little
> yellow *******s over in Japan?
> We slapped them all over the Pacific and
> roasted about 2 million of them in
> their own back yard. That's what we in America
> call a big *** barbecue.
> Ever seen Texas on a map? Ever wonder why it's
> so big? Because we wanted it
> that way, Mexico started jacking around with
> the Alamo and now they cut our
> lawns. England? We sent them packing.
>
> Ask your buddy Saddam about ****ing with the
> good 'ole USA. The only reason
> he got away the first time is because it's too
> hard to shoot someone when
> you're doubled over laughing at them. Our
> soldiers aren't trained to laugh
> and shoot at the same time. Now he couldn't
> stop a pack of cub scouts from
> taking over his ****ty little country.
>
> Trust us, Afghanistan will end up a giant kitty
> litter box. Go ahead and try
> to hide, Bin Laden. There's not a hole deep
> enough or a mountain high enough
> that's going to keep your camel riding asses
> safe. We will bomb every inch
> of the country that harbors him, his camps and
> any place that looks and even
> smells like he was there. Hell, we might even
> drop a few bombs on people
> that have pissed us off in the past. This is
> America. We kick ***. This is
> what we do. Go ahead and laugh now, but the
> Tomahawks are coming and we will
> smoke your sorry asses.
>
> God bless America!
>
>
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31475 From: <JNB4PLS@a...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 5:07am
Subject: Re: RE7000 4.5" lift
If I'm available on the weekend that's chosen I'll be there to help also.
John Butler
31476 From: Kevin Fell <kwfell@y...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 9:49am
Subject: ZJ coil rates
Linda:
RE was clueless when I called them for the same reason, but I was told by
Papromike, one of their retailers, that the rate was in fact 220psi, which
I believe because my previous Teraflex coils were rated at 205psi and these
RE springs feel slightly stiffer when I put them on. I believe the stock
rating was 167psi for non- u/c and 180psi for u/c models in the front and
150/165psi respectively in the rear. I did quite a study about a year or
so ago with respect to spring rate and lift kit setup. Here is more info
for anyone else who's interested:
'93=>'95 ZJ specs: ('96=>'98 MAY share specs)
-Stock shocks (non U/C)
front compressed- 13 3/4"
front extended- 21 3/4"
rear compressed- 13 1/4"
rear extended- 21 1/2"
-RS 9000's
front(9179)compressed- 14 3/4"
front(9179)extended- 23 1/8"
rear(9116)compressed- 14 7/8"
rear(9116)extended- 23 7/8"
-Bilstein BE5 series (claiming 10" of travel)
front(6248)- 26" extended
rear(6249)- 29.7" extended
-Stock front coils- 17 1/2" @167psi (non UC)
-Stock rear coils- 14 1/4" @150psi (non UC)
-Rusty's 3" coils- 22 1/4" @150psi
ProComp 3" front coils (for XJ and ZJ) - 18.3" @230psi (9.5 coils)
ProComp 3" rear coils - 15.8 @188psi (8.5 coils)
Rancho 3" front coils (for XJ and ZJ) - 18.5" @240psi
Rancho 3" rear coils - 15" @200psi
Hope that helps you out and may give you some perspective, Linda.
=Kevin=
*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
On 9/21/2001 at 11:40 AM az_vjc@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 20:18:11 -0700
> From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
>Subject: Interesting ZJ coil compression information
>
>I got a 4.5" replacement front coil from RE. RE refused to provide
>compression information.
>
>The new coil is 22.75" long, 13.25 windings, 5/6" (.625) wire, max
>compression 13.20" (if possible).
>
>We set up a coil compression measuring device in the barn using a
>Health-O-Meter bathroom balance scale (bubble level, accurate to within
>1/4-lb) on the 20-ton press. We used a Sears Craftsman measuring tape to
>determine when the coil had compressed 1-inch. And a couple of pieces of
>wood
>
>The new RE 4.5" coil compresses at approx 170-lbs/in.
>
>We found a factory ZJ front coil (1993, 4.0l, 4x4). The factory coil
>compression was approx 110-lbs/in.
>
>Neither coil is progressive.
>
>We will be measuring the old (possibly prototype) RE 4.5" front coils
>that I got back in 1997. I suspect their compression rate will be about
>140-lbs/in.
>
>Methinks that the new RE coil was designed for a V8 w/ARB bumper and
>winch. It most certainly will be a less than desirable coil for a 4.0l
>with no ARB bumper or winch.
>
>I will be putting the coils on just to get the ZJ back on the road and
>will most likely be ordering custom coils from National.
>
>Anybody have an email address for Ryan Wallace? He worked (owned?)
>Rubicon Express back in 1997. I would like to find out what happened
>with the coil springs and the changes made to the RE control arms.
>
>Linda
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31477 From: Chatfield, Mike <Mike@A...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 9:50am
Subject: Three (or more?) Club members in the Optima Offroad Contest
Hey all, there is (at least) three AzVJC members to vote for on the Optima
Offroad Contest.
Lets get a club member to win this! Get over there and vote!
http://www.optimaoffroadcontest.com/vote.asp
<http://www.optimaoffroadcontest.com/vote.asp>
1. Who can miss that fun noodle mobile of Sharky Kenner? (First Page, Last
Row, Right Side)
2. Then there is Steve Meyer who laid his jeep on it side just for the
contest... just kidding. (Second Page, 3rd Row, Left Side)
3. Your's truly on Lower Woodpecker at last year's Christmas Party (Second
Page, 3rd Row, Right Side)
According to the Optima website, you can "Vote early, Vote Often" so go out
there and vote until your heart's content.
Thanks,
- Mike
31478 From: Tom LaFrance <tlafrance@j...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 9:58am
Subject: More CCW info
FYI there have been a few changes in the last couple of years:
>Another note to add....If you get a ccw, it flags your personal police
file
>that you carry concealed. If a cop pulls you over, they will no that you
>have a ccw permit when the run your info.
NOT TRUE anymore according to DPS. The only way to get your CCW info now
is to run a separate CCW check. Evidently it caused some confusion
amongst officers because it was a similar warning to a dangerous felon
when they did an id check.
>I was a federally licensed firearms dealer for many years and the
>law in AZ is if it is in a holster you can keep it just about anywhere
you
>want. Your glove box, center consol, under your seat, etc. One major
thing
>to know is if you get pulled over by the police the first thing you need
to
>do is tell him you have a firearm in you vehicle. He will ask you for it
and
>after he is has finished his business with you he will return it.
NOT TRUE anymore. FACT, you only need to tell an officer you are armed
or in possession of a CCW if he asks. Regardless, I still hand over my
license and permit at the same time as a matter of courtesy.
Tom LaFrance
31479 From: <fmw@q...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 10:40am
Subject: Re: ZJ coil rates
Interesting stuff. I'm slightly confused on how one determines spring rate.
You say 175lbs/inch. I read that to mean, if I put 175 lbs on the spring,
say via a press, it'll compress 1".. Is that right ??
Thanks,
Fred
At 09:49 AM 09/21/2001 -0700, kwfell@y... wrote:
>Linda:
>RE was clueless when I called them for the same reason, but I was told by
>Papromike, one of their retailers, that the rate was in fact 220psi, which
>I believe because my previous Teraflex coils were rated at 205psi and these
>RE springs feel slightly stiffer when I put them on. I believe the stock
>rating was 167psi for non- u/c and 180psi for u/c models in the front and
>150/165psi respectively in the rear. I did quite a study about a year or
>so ago with respect to spring rate and lift kit setup. Here is more info
>for anyone else who's interested:
>
>'93=>'95 ZJ specs: ('96=>'98 MAY share specs)
>-Stock shocks (non U/C)
>front compressed- 13 3/4"
>front extended- 21 3/4"
>rear compressed- 13 1/4"
>rear extended- 21 1/2"
>-RS 9000's
>front(9179)compressed- 14 3/4"
>front(9179)extended- 23 1/8"
>rear(9116)compressed- 14 7/8"
>rear(9116)extended- 23 7/8"
>-Bilstein BE5 series (claiming 10" of travel)
>front(6248)- 26" extended
>rear(6249)- 29.7" extended
>
>
>-Stock front coils- 17 1/2" @167psi (non UC)
>-Stock rear coils- 14 1/4" @150psi (non UC)
>-Rusty's 3" coils- 22 1/4" @150psi
>ProComp 3" front coils (for XJ and ZJ) - 18.3" @230psi (9.5 coils)
>ProComp 3" rear coils - 15.8 @188psi (8.5 coils)
>Rancho 3" front coils (for XJ and ZJ) - 18.5" @240psi
>Rancho 3" rear coils - 15" @200psi
>
>Hope that helps you out and may give you some perspective, Linda.
>=Kevin=
>
>
>*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
>
>On 9/21/2001 at 11:40 AM az_vjc@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
>> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 20:18:11 -0700
>> From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
>>Subject: Interesting ZJ coil compression information
>>
>>I got a 4.5" replacement front coil from RE. RE refused to provide
>>compression information.
>>
>>The new coil is 22.75" long, 13.25 windings, 5/6" (.625) wire, max
>>compression 13.20" (if possible).
>>
>>We set up a coil compression measuring device in the barn using a
>>Health-O-Meter bathroom balance scale (bubble level, accurate to within
>>1/4-lb) on the 20-ton press. We used a Sears Craftsman measuring tape to
>>determine when the coil had compressed 1-inch. And a couple of pieces of
>>wood
>>
>>The new RE 4.5" coil compresses at approx 170-lbs/in.
>>
>>We found a factory ZJ front coil (1993, 4.0l, 4x4). The factory coil
>>compression was approx 110-lbs/in.
>>
>>Neither coil is progressive.
>>
>>We will be measuring the old (possibly prototype) RE 4.5" front coils
>>that I got back in 1997. I suspect their compression rate will be about
>>140-lbs/in.
>>
>>Methinks that the new RE coil was designed for a V8 w/ARB bumper and
>>winch. It most certainly will be a less than desirable coil for a 4.0l
>>with no ARB bumper or winch.
>>
>>I will be putting the coils on just to get the ZJ back on the road and
>>will most likely be ordering custom coils from National.
>>
>>Anybody have an email address for Ryan Wallace? He worked (owned?)
>>Rubicon Express back in 1997. I would like to find out what happened
>>with the coil springs and the changes made to the RE control arms.
>>
>>Linda
>
>
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31480 From: Matt Ulepic <mulepic@h...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 10:45am
Subject: Re: Propane is Awesome!!!
I'd be interested in what's your cost per mile w/ the alt-fuel?
Thanks,
Matt
----- Original Message -----
From: <nearbeer16@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 6:50 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Propane is Awesome!!!
> Since reading all the posts here and getting ideas from alot of you
> about mods, I've decided to do a big one. Since some of you seem to
> have everything imaginable on your jeeps, everything, I've decided to
> convert my jeep to propane. See I camp alot and I figured this would
> serve many purposes. Now my propane jeep can also run my stove, my
> lanterns as well as a nice sized heating unit so on those cold winter
> nights I'll be nice and warm. It's also much quieter. Sounds like my
> honda, I love it. I've built a rack on the back next to the tire that
> carries additional containers of propane. It's Way Cool, so long as
> I don't get into a wreck, shot at or stuck in fire, it'll be
> awesome!!!!
>
> Happy hump day!
>
>
>
>
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>
>
31481 From: James Smith <jeepinsmitty@y...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 11:02am
Subject: Re: roll bar pads
Yeah, Yeah.. You can thank my wife for that one!! lol
Oh by the way,
Since the summer is over, I have some fun noodles I am
willing to part with, they are a variety of colors.
Pink, Blue, and Orange, and I think I may have a
purple one out there too.
TTYL,
Smitty
--- sharxjeep@c... wrote:
> Ouch ...that hurts...see what you started Smitty
> :)
>
> P.S. Shasta is all out, so I dont know what to tell
> you :)
>
> Sharky and the fun noodle mobile
>
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31482 From: Brian Pavlich <brian.pavlich@i...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 11:11am
Subject: Aquiring AZ STLU Permits.
State Trust Land Use permit:
Is there a more expedicious way to go about getting one of these permits?
All I could seem to find is a phone#: 602-364-2753
Its a recording that asks to leave your address etc and an application will be mailed to you. I doubt that I could get one before this weekend through this method.
Is there an office I could go to or something? The http://www.land.state.az.us/ page is miserably lacking any information regarding this, and the only way I got the phone number is by calling the BLM office..
I want to comply, but why the heck is this information so obscure and not easily attainable?
Please help! Thanks.
- Brian (Zoner)
31483 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 11:21am
Subject: RE: Aquiring AZ STLU Permits.
If you live in the valley the quickest way would be to go downtown to 1616 W Adams near the capitol. Apply, pay then recieve your permit right there.
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Pavlich [mailto:brian.pavlich@igets.net]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 11:11 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Aquiring AZ STLU Permits.
State Trust Land Use permit:
Is there a more expedicious way to go about getting one of these permits?
All I could seem to find is a phone#: 602-364-2753
Its a recording that asks to leave your address etc and an application will be mailed to you. I doubt that I could get one before this weekend through this method.
Is there an office I could go to or something? The http://www.land.state.az.us/ page is miserably lacking any information regarding this, and the only way I got the phone number is by calling the BLM office..
I want to comply, but why the heck is this information so obscure and not easily attainable?
Please help! Thanks.
- Brian (Zoner)
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31484 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 0:26pm
Subject: [FS] Grey TJ seats
Price: $250 obo
Contact: 480-575-3238
No rips/tears, approx 16K miles on the seats. Grey in color. Nice condition. Call 480-575-3238 $250 obo. Thanks!
Matt Osgood
31485 From: Mike Beach <mikebeach2002@y...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 0:29pm
Subject: Re: Pavilions this week???
--- my1stjeep@e... wrote:
> I thought I remembered someone mentioning going ot
> the Pavilions thi
> weekend. Do they still hang out on Saturday night?
> Is anyone going?
> Please let me know if you are going, my email is
> till down, I will
> check back here, but you can also call me.
>
> Today at work: 480-774-4661
> Pager: 602-871-4385
>
> Thanks.
>
> Chris R.
>
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>
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Yeah, lets do it. I work 8-5 on Saturday so lets go.
Call me
Mike
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31486 From: Chatfield, Mike <Mike@A...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 0:31pm
Subject: FW: ASU and the American Flag
-----Original Message-----
From: Lattie Coor [mailto:Lattie.Coor@a...]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 11:51 AM
To: 'Mike@A...'
Talk radio reports suggesting ASU is not flying the American flag is just
categorically wrong. We are proudly displaying American flags throughout
the campus and have been doing so throughout these tragic events.
Attached is a statement providing more details.
Lattie F. Coor
President
Arizona State University
Media Relations and Public Information Office
www.asu.edu/asunews
Keith Jennings, k.jennings@a...
(480) 965-3504
September 20, 2001
Arizona State University proudly displays American flags.
Contrary to some statements made on talk radio and picked up
nationally, Arizona State University is not removing American flags from the
university campus.
The radio discussion stems from a decision by a cafeteria employee,
in a misinterpretation of ASU policy, to remove an American flag that was
hung in a cafeteria on the ASU campus in Tempe.
Several Associated Students of ASU student senators were upset over
the removal of the flag and introduced a resolution to the student senate to
condemn the operator of the cafeteria. The student senators could not agree
on the wording of the resolution and as a result, the resolution did not
pass.
The policy that was misinterpreted requires student groups and
organizations to get permission before hanging posters, banners or any other
material in the cafeteria area.
Students who posted the flag in the cafeteria did so without talking
with anyone, resulting in the misinterpretation of the policy.
ASU regrets the misunderstanding and apologizes to anyone who was
offended by the initial removal of the flag. The university is working to
ensure that such misunderstandings do not happen again.
The American flag has been replaced and is now hanging in the cafeteria.
The ASU campus is adorned with flags. Students at Manzanita Hall have
turned their windows into a giant American flag. Other residence halls
feature flags hanging in many windows. The Memorial Union at ASU has a
large flag prominently displayed and door handles feature ribbons in
patriotic colors.
ASU also flies several American flags on a permanent basis on all of its
campus locations: near Gammage Auditorium, at the Karsten Golf Course, the
ASU Downtown Center, ASU East and ASU West.
In addition, the "A" on "A" Mountain in Tempe has been painted in patriotic
colors for more than a week.
Like the rest of the country, everyone at ASU has been deeply
affected by the tragic and horrific events in New York and Washington that
claimed more than 5,500 lives.
Since the Sept. 11 attacks on our country, ASU has shown its
patriotism and concern in numerous ways, including flying the American flag
at half staff, holding memorials, prayer vigils, panel discussions,
fundraising events, blood drives and counseling sessions.
ASU President Lattie Coor addressed the campus community during a
vigil on campus a week ago. The text of those remarks is available on-line
at (www.asu.edu/asunews/Releases/Coorspeech0901.htm/).
All of us at ASU understand that this is a time of great stress for
everyone and we will do everything possible to insure the physical and
emotional safety of all members of the university community.
31487 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 0:33pm
Subject: [Fwd: RE: U.S. Flag on A.S.U. Campus]
Below is a reply to my email requesting Lattie Coor, President of ASU, to restore
the flying of the American flag on the ASU campus. I am satisfied with the reply
and have thanked Mr. Coor.
-Roger
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: U.S. Flag on A.S.U. Campus
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 11:55:12 -0700
From: Lattie Coor <Lattie.Coor@a...>
To: "'tomasr@a...'" <tomasr@a...>
Talk radio reports suggesting ASU is not flying the American flag is just categorically wrong. We are proudly displaying American flags throughout the campus and have been doing
so throughout these tragic events.
Attached is a statement providing more details.
Lattie F. Coor
President
Arizona State University
Media Relations and Public Information Office
www.asu.edu/asunews
Keith Jennings, k.jennings@a...
(480) 965-3504
September 20, 2001
Arizona State University proudly displays American flags.
Contrary to some statements made on talk radio and picked up nationally, Arizona State University is not removing American flags from the university campus.
The radio discussion stems from a decision by a cafeteria employee, in a misinterpretation of ASU policy, to remove an American flag that was hung in a cafeteria on the ASU
campus in Tempe.
Several Associated Students of ASU student senators were upset over the removal of the flag and introduced a resolution to the student senate to condemn the operator of the
cafeteria. The student senators could not agree on the wording of the resolution and as a result, the resolution did not pass.
The policy that was misinterpreted requires student groups and organizations to get permission before hanging posters, banners or any other material in the cafeteria area.
Students who posted the flag in the cafeteria did so without talking with anyone, resulting in the misinterpretation of the policy.
ASU regrets the misunderstanding and apologizes to anyone who was offended by the initial removal of the flag. The university is working to ensure that such
misunderstandings do not happen again.
The American flag has been replaced and is now hanging in the cafeteria.
The ASU campus is adorned with flags. Students at Manzanita Hall have turned their windows into a giant American flag. Other residence halls feature flags hanging in many
windows. The Memorial Union at ASU has a large flag prominently displayed and door handles feature ribbons in patriotic colors.
ASU also flies several American flags on a permanent basis on all of its campus locations: near Gammage Auditorium, at the Karsten Golf Course, the ASU Downtown Center, ASU East
and ASU West.
In addition, the "A" on "A" Mountain in Tempe has been painted in patriotic colors for more than a week.
Like the rest of the country, everyone at ASU has been deeply affected by the tragic and horrific events in New York and Washington that claimed more than 5,500 lives.
Since the Sept. 11 attacks on our country, ASU has shown its patriotism and concern in numerous ways, including flying the American flag at half staff, holding memorials,
prayer vigils, panel discussions, fundraising events, blood drives and counseling sessions.
ASU President Lattie Coor addressed the campus community during a vigil on campus a week ago. The text of those remarks is available on-line at
(www.asu.edu/asunews/Releases/Coorspeech0901.htm/).
All of us at ASU understand that this is a time of great stress for everyone and we will do everything possible to insure the physical and emotional safety of all members
of the university community.
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 2:21 PM
To: Lattie.Coor@a...
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: U.S. Flag on A.S.U. Campus
Dear Mr. Coor,
My name is Roger Tomas and I am an alumni of A.S.U. I've recently heard
about a decision not to fly the American flag on the A.S.U. campus due
to the possibility that certain people may be offended. This is an
outrage. It is an embarassment to our country and an insult to those
who have fought for our freedoms - especially to those who have made
the ultimate sacrifice. It is also an insult to the victims of the
recent terrorist attacks. We are currently in a period of mourning
and flags are to be flown at half-mast in memorium to those victims.
If what I've heard is incorrect and my comments are unwarranted, please
accept my apology. Otherwise, I ask that you please correct this wrong.
Thank you.
Roger Tomas
College of Engineering and Applied Sciences
Class of '84
31488 From: Baja Fleg <fleigle@h...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 0:50pm
Subject: RE: Bad Image
Where and what are these pavilions? I'm not exactly new to the area but
haven't technically lived here long due to my jobs travel requirements.
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31489 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 1:07pm
Subject: Re: Bad Image
The Pavillions is a shopping center at Pima andIndian Bend Roads
over in Scottsdale. Don't confuse it with the Bell Pavillions
which is at Bell Road and I-17.
-Roger
Baja Fleg wrote:
>
> Where and what are these pavilions? I'm not exactly new to the area but
> haven't technically lived here long due to my jobs travel requirements.
31490 From: David Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 1:35pm
Subject: Re: Run For Charity
great idea
----Original Message Follows----
From: ROBERT NYBERG
Reply-To: r.nyberg@worldnet.att.net
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Run For Charity
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:22:51 -0700
Why not just have a run of some type ( through town ) to raise money for
the Red Cross or ? to help with the disaster. I would be willing to help
and as the Wheel Dust editor I could mail invites to another 1050
people. We would have a possibility of over 2000 4 X 4 vehicles in a
line. Even if only a small percentage could make it, it would be a heck
of a showing for our sport and the GOOD we do. Just a thought.
Bob
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31491 From: Chatfield, Mike <Mike@A...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 2:38pm
Subject: FW: Fire Prevention Parade
Hey everyone,
How about it, lets get some Jeeps out there for this! On one of the Jeeps,
we should be able to display our banner.
Contact Dave Jensen ( DJENSEN935@A... <mailto:DJENSEN935@A...> ) for
more info.
- Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: djensen935@a... [mailto:djensen935@a...]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:24 PM
To: Mike@a...
Subject: Fire Prevention Parade
Hey mike I'm e-mailing you because you seem like you are well connected to
the jeep club. I work for Glendale Fire Dept. And we are having our annual
parade and static display on Oct 6 through downtown Glendale we usually have
a pretty awesome turnout of fire apparatus police military(I Don't think
they will make it this year) boy and girl scouts cheerleaders etc...... I
would like to see some Jeeps with large American flags cruisin' old town
Glendale..... I will be in parade (but not in my jeep) I will be driving
some kids that are involved in the mayors youth group...but I would like
some Jeeps too......I have info for registration but it has got to be
ASAP!!!! I also put it on the events list on AzVJC home page...let me know
if you can help out thanks Dave Jensen
31492 From: <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 3:10pm
Subject: Re: FW: Fire Prevention Parade
I will be there! Please let me know more Mike. Does this mean I
have to wash my Jeep first???
Mike Baney
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Chatfield, Mike" <Mike@A...> wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> How about it, lets get some Jeeps out there for this! On one of
the Jeeps,
> we should be able to display our banner.
> Contact Dave Jensen ( DJENSEN935@A... <mailto:DJENSEN935@A...> ) for
> more info.
>
> - Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: djensen935@a... [mailto:djensen935@a...]
> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:24 PM
> To: Mike@a...
> Subject: Fire Prevention Parade
>
>
> Hey mike I'm e-mailing you because you seem like you are well
connected to
> the jeep club. I work for Glendale Fire Dept. And we are having our
annual
> parade and static display on Oct 6 through downtown Glendale we
usually have
> a pretty awesome turnout of fire apparatus police military(I Don't
think
> they will make it this year) boy and girl scouts cheerleaders
etc...... I
> would like to see some Jeeps with large American flags cruisin' old
town
> Glendale..... I will be in parade (but not in my jeep) I will be
driving
> some kids that are involved in the mayors youth group...but I would
like
> some Jeeps too......I have info for registration but it has got to
be
> ASAP!!!! I also put it on the events list on AzVJC home page...let
me know
> if you can help out thanks Dave Jensen
31493 From: <Mike@A...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 3:22pm
Subject: Re: FW: Fire Prevention Parade
Contact Dave Jensen (DJensen935@A...)
--- In az_vjc@y..., jeepin_in_az@y... wrote:
> I will be there! Please let me know more Mike. Does this mean I
> have to wash my Jeep first???
>
> Mike Baney
31494 From: <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 3:25pm
Subject: Re: FW: Fire Prevention Parade
I am interested too!!! Love to display my pride in America as well as
my Jeep.
Yes Mike baney you will have to wash it, might want to wash it this
weekend, that way you can fix whatever the dust was holding
together...LOL.
Chris R.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
--- In az_vjc@y..., jeepin_in_az@y... wrote:
> I will be there! Please let me know more Mike. Does this mean I
> have to wash my Jeep first???
>
> Mike Baney
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Chatfield, Mike" <Mike@A...> wrote:
> > Hey everyone,
> >
> > How about it, lets get some Jeeps out there for this! On one of
> the Jeeps,
> > we should be able to display our banner.
> > Contact Dave Jensen ( DJENSEN935@A... <mailto:DJENSEN935@A...> )
for
> > more info.
> >
> > - Mike
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: djensen935@a... [mailto:djensen935@a...]
> > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:24 PM
> > To: Mike@a...
> > Subject: Fire Prevention Parade
> >
> >
> > Hey mike I'm e-mailing you because you seem like you are well
> connected to
> > the jeep club. I work for Glendale Fire Dept. And we are having
our
> annual
> > parade and static display on Oct 6 through downtown Glendale we
> usually have
> > a pretty awesome turnout of fire apparatus police military(I Don't
> think
> > they will make it this year) boy and girl scouts cheerleaders
> etc...... I
> > would like to see some Jeeps with large American flags cruisin'
old
> town
> > Glendale..... I will be in parade (but not in my jeep) I will be
> driving
> > some kids that are involved in the mayors youth group...but I
would
> like
> > some Jeeps too......I have info for registration but it has got to
> be
> > ASAP!!!! I also put it on the events list on AzVJC home page...let
> me know
> > if you can help out thanks Dave Jensen
31495 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 3:53pm
Subject: [FS] Chrome Spokes off 98TJ 15x8
Price: $40 obo
Contact: ricknhall@home.com
These are in good shape 5 / 4.5 but do have some scars on the edges. Straight and the vavles shouldn't need replacing. They are the standard Chrome spkoes all of the tire shops sell for 35 to 45 $$
Rick
Rick Hall
31496 From: David R. W. Withers <dr_ww@h...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 3:54pm
Subject: Torch to heat and bend back control arm bracket?
If anyone has on, please call me this weekend.
David R. W. Withers
Network Engineer/ Senior QA Engineer
È 480-215-6992
' 480-551-4667
dwithers@atstraffic.com
31497 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Sep 21, 2001 3:56pm
Subject: [FS] Sony CD Player
Price: $100
Contact: 480-332-5704
Sony CDX-4000X CD Receiver
SSIR-EXA Tuner
18FM+12AM Presets
Station Memo(TM)
Best Tuning Memory
8fs; 1-Bit; CD-R Playback
Loudness
Red Key Illumination
13-Seg, White/3 Color Neg LCD
60 Degree Installation
Telephone Attenuate
Rotary Encoder w/Cross Key
CD/MD/TV Control w/Custom File(TM) CD Text(TM)
50x4 Design, 2 4-volt Preouts
Flip-down Detachable Faceplate
White LED; 2-color Key Illumination
Will also include required TJ wiring harness and mounting kit.
Just cleaned yesterday by Circuit City (came with a free cleaning). Excellent condition.
Dan Coley