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30967 From: Michael B. Wixom <mwixom@q...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 2:02pm
Subject: Ethical Question
When we sell a part on the classified section of the web sight where does our responsibility end? I advertised some parts for sale, fully disclosing the origin of the parts and there application. The parts were in good condition, with no flaws. Am I responsible if they do not fit the vehicle that the party bought them for with out some minor modifications? I must also state that I have already agreed to refund the money, I was just curious how others in the club felt about it.
Mike Wixom
85 CJ-7
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30968 From: Chris R. <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 2:13pm
Subject: Re: Re: GIVE BLOOD
The Red Cross is one and the major one that deals with blood donations is
United Blood Services.
Chris
http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
My1stJeep@e...
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:16:54 -0000, jeepin_in_az@y... wrote:
> There is one on 7th street and osborn, I think, and also one in
> downtown Scottsdale,(James won't be going to that one;)). They are
> extremely busy, and recommend waiting a day or two before going in.
> They will need blood for several weeks, so if you don't get in today,
> please go with in the week. This was heard on KZON 101.5, they were
> talking with one of the directors of the blood center. They are
> planning to open a center overnight in the east valley for us east
> siders....Not sure bout the west side though. I can't recall the
> name....anyone know the major one here in az?
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> - In az_vjc@y..., "Garrison St.Clair" <gunslinger@i...> wrote:
> > Blair,
> >
> > I'm not in AZ so I'm posting your question about Blood Center
> locations back
> > to the list.
> >
> > Gunslinger
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Blair" <blairb20@h...>
> > To: "Garrison St.Clair" <gunslinger@i...>
> > Sent: Tuesday, 11 September, 2001 14:25
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] GIVE BLOOD
> >
> >
> > > Thanks Garrison... almost all the local donation centers are too
> busy to
> > get
> > > through right now, unfortunately. Anyone know where the centers
> are so
> > that
> > > people can just show up?
> > >
> > > -B
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
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30969 From: <jsteele1999@y...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 2:57pm
Subject: Re: Ethical Question
With used stuff it is customary to consider it "as is", "where is".
Buyer normally assumes all responsibility.
I myself would stretch this a bit. If someone buys something from me
and gripes later, about any little thing, I'd offer to buy it back,
assuming it has not been altered.
Jerry
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Michael B. Wixom" <mwixom@q...> wrote:
> When we sell a part on the classified section of the web sight where
does our responsibility end? I advertised some parts for sale, fully
disclosing the origin of the parts and there application. The parts
were in good condition, with no flaws. Am I responsible if they do
not fit the vehicle that the party bought them for with out some minor
modifications? I must also state that I have already agreed to refund
the money, I was just curious how others in the club felt about it.
>
> Mike Wixom
> 85 CJ-7
30970 From: JEEP THANG <jeep_thang@h...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 3:02pm
Subject: Re: Ethical Question
In my opinion, if you fully disclosed all information regarding the
parts in question. Then the party that purchased the parts or
equipment, should have been fully aware if they would not fit the
application that they needed them for. I would not refund anything
until I got the parts/equipment in question returned in the condition
that it was recieved by the party in question. They could just be
taking you for a ride.
those are the chances that you take when purchasing equipment without
knowing what exactly you need.
Sincerely: JEEP THANG
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Michael B. Wixom" <mwixom@q...> wrote:
> When we sell a part on the classified section of the web sight
where does our responsibility end? I advertised some parts for sale,
fully disclosing the origin of the parts and there application. The
parts were in good condition, with no flaws. Am I responsible if
they do not fit the vehicle that the party bought them for with out
some minor modifications? I must also state that I have already
agreed to refund the money, I was just curious how others in the club
felt about it.
>
> Mike Wixom
> 85 CJ-7
30971 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 3:05pm
Subject: Re: Ethical Question
Mike,
I don't believe so.
Ex: I recently replied to someone looking for a Sahara spare cover on
JU. The guy who wanted it and I exchanged emails several times. On
one of the last emails I noticed his sig had his vehicle listed as a
YJ, well this cover came from a TJ. I notified him it was from a TJ
and there may be a differnce. He said, don't worry just send it
anyway.
The point being, it cost me $11.50 to mail it. I sold it for $25
including shipping. If I would have to take it back I loose $11.50.
Why should I take the loss when he knew the situation? Now maybe it
didn't cost you any money but, I bet it costed you some time. Time is
money. Why should you loose out if someone else doesn't care enough
to notice.
This being said, it might be nice for you to take them back but, you
aren't obligated.
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Michael B. Wixom" <mwixom@q...> wrote:
> When we sell a part on the classified section of the web sight
where does our responsibility end? I advertised some parts for sale,
fully disclosing the origin of the parts and there application. The
parts were in good condition, with no flaws. Am I responsible if
they do not fit the vehicle that the party bought them for with out
some minor modifications? I must also state that I have already
agreed to refund the money, I was just curious how others in the club
felt about it.
>
> Mike Wixom
> 85 CJ-7
30972 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 3:08pm
Subject: Re: Ethical Question
As a comparison, I'm not sure I've ever bought a part (new or used)
other than an air filter that didn't require some (minor or major)
modification in order for it to fit or function properly, regardless
of the condition of the part or what it was going on to.
Second, if you made it clear to the buyer the *intended* application,
and the parts honestly had no flaws, then I don't see a problem.
If the case is someone buying something for their jeep that was not
*specifically* designed or engineered for their jeep model, then they
are accepting that responsibility.
What is the issue at hand? As the specifics will go a long way in
deciding who is right and who is not, which I believe is a valid
question because you have asked the entire group. :)
Don't take your cases to municipal, court take them to JEEP CLUB
COURT! :)
30973 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 3:10pm
Subject: Re: Ethical Question
If it is clearly stated in the ad that it will fit XYZ application and the person buying it knows and understands this, then it should be up to the person selling the item to say if they will take it back. It is my OPINION (key word) that if someone buys something that is not specifically for their application and they know it, then they should not expect to be able to return it to get their money back.
Again, just my opinion.
Chris K
From: "Michael B. Wixom"
Organization: Certified Inspection Service Co., Inc.
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:02:00 -0700
To: "AZ Virtual Jeep Club"
Subject: [az_vjc] Ethical Question
When we sell a part on the classified section of the web sight where does our responsibility end? I advertised some parts for sale, fully disclosing the origin of the parts and there application. The parts were in good condition, with no flaws. Am I responsible if they do not fit the vehicle that the party bought them for with out some minor modifications? I must also state that I have already agreed to refund the money, I was just curious how others in the club felt about it.
Mike Wixom
85 CJ-7
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30974 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 3:39pm
Subject: Re: manlyness
How could he have seen it, your description leads me to believe there
is nothing there to be seen! :D
Seriously though, that is pretty cool.
--- In az_vjc@y..., Scott Bruns<Scott.Bruns@R...> wrote:
> Tom, you must have seen my old Jeep.
>
> My '67 CJ-6 has: No hard top, no soft top, no bikini top, no doors,
no roll bar, no A/C, no heater, no defroster, no rear bumper, no
emergency brake, no winch, no windshield wipers, no flares, no power
steering, no power brakes, no auto canceling turn signals, no glove
box, no gas pedal (just a rod sticking out of the floor) and not even
a horn.
>
> Yes, it runs. I even drove it to work once. And it is not a
stripped Jeep. It never had a top, doors, a/c, heater, emergency
brake, flares, and not even a horn, right from the factory.
>
> If I score 1 point for each no, I get a total score of 19. 20 if I
count each wiper motor without wiring or a wiper arm separately. A
manly score indeed!
>
>
>
>
> >>> Tom LaFrance <tlafrance@j...> 9/11/01 7:18:56 AM >>>
> Now, in order to complete the "manly" profile, you MUST have manual
> brakes, manual steering, NO air conditioning, no heat, no doors and
no
> wussy hard top :p
>
> Tom
>
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30975 From: Kevin <nau88xj@h...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 4:13pm
Subject: Re: manlyness
IM MANLY!!! I even have front and rear DRUM brakes!!!! unfortunatly my cj
will become a wuss-jeep with the soon to happen 4wheel discs, power steering
w/hydraulic assist and other mods that are currently ordered or working on.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom LaFrance" <tlafrance@j...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:18 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] manlyness
> Now, in order to complete the "manly" profile, you MUST have manual
> brakes, manual steering, NO air conditioning, no heat, no doors and no
> wussy hard top :p
>
> Tom
>
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30976 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 4:30pm
Subject: Re: GIVE BLOOD
Given how pissed I normally am and how much more pissed I am today,
going to Snottsdale wouldn't be a good idea right now. You are
correct. :)
They will probably have something at ASU one day.
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., jeepin_in_az@y... wrote:
> There is one on 7th street and osborn, I think, and also one in
> downtown Scottsdale,(James won't be going to that one;)). They are
> extremely busy, and recommend waiting a day or two before going
in.
> They will need blood for several weeks, so if you don't get in
today,
> please go with in the week. This was heard on KZON 101.5, they
were
> talking with one of the directors of the blood center. They are
> planning to open a center overnight in the east valley for us east
> siders....Not sure bout the west side though. I can't recall the
> name....anyone know the major one here in az?
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> - In az_vjc@y..., "Garrison St.Clair" <gunslinger@i...> wrote:
> > Blair,
> >
> > I'm not in AZ so I'm posting your question about Blood Center
> locations back
> > to the list.
> >
> > Gunslinger
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Blair" <blairb20@h...>
> > To: "Garrison St.Clair" <gunslinger@i...>
> > Sent: Tuesday, 11 September, 2001 14:25
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] GIVE BLOOD
> >
> >
> > > Thanks Garrison... almost all the local donation centers are
too
> busy to
> > get
> > > through right now, unfortunately. Anyone know where the centers
> are so
> > that
> > > people can just show up?
> > >
> > > -B
> > >
> > >
30977 From: Tom LaFrance <tlafrance@j...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 4:31pm
Subject: Member sighting
Spotted......13:00, Fountain Hills, headed up Palisades by Safeway,
Forest Green TJ. No doors, HUGE winch on front, club stickers proudly
displayed. I was in the grocery getting Malibu with the Mrs headed to a
late lunch.
NICE JEEP, here is your wave :)
Tom LaFrance
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30978 From: UF RULZ <scoopman_2000@y...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 1:46pm
Subject: Re: Re: OT terrorist attack
Pete Wirch, you out there? I sure hope so. I think I
remember that he was moving to NY. My thoughts and
prayers go out to everyone today, this is a tragic
event. Just thinking about it brings tears to my
eyes, I just hope that we(America) never let this
happen again.
Aaron
99TJ
--- jeepin_in_az@y... wrote:
> I just found out I have a neice that lives in NYC.
> She is my sister-
> in-laws daughter, and I never met her. She goes to
> college 2 BLOCKS
> away from the former trade building. I just found
> out she is ok, and
> she really had no clue what was happening until she
> got the call from
> my sister-in-law. She was getting ready for class
> at her apartment,
> when her mom explained what was happening. She
> looked out the window
> and watched everything! I won't be suprised if she
> saw them
> collapse. I am just glad to know she is ok. I hope
> the rest
> of "our" Jeep clubs families are ok too.
>
> Mike Baney
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Chris R." <my1stjeep@e...>
> wrote:
> > With both Towers down, the planes in Penn. and the
> Pentagon it is
> time for
> > us to say our prayers for the families of those
> lost in this
> tragedy. I
> > hope all is well with everyones family.
> >
> > Chris
> > http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
> > My1stJeep@e...
> > '97 TJ
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> > "He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he
> who does not ask
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> > fool forever."
> >
> > On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:13:25 -0700, Jesus Chio -
> AllOffRoad wrote:
> >
> > > One of the towers just fell!
> > >
> > > My dad was in GA and flew to San Antonio early
> in the moorning,
> now all
> > the
> > > flights are closed, oh gosh
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jesus Chio
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <g_rob_williams@y...>
> > > To: <az_vjc@y...>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:43 AM
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] OT terrorist attack
> > >
> > >
> > > > Turn on the news... two jets have crashed in
> to the world trade
> > > > center buildings, FBI is calling it a
> terrorist attack. It
> happened
> > > > at 6:00 this morning our time. -Rob
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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30979 From: <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 7:59pm
Subject: Re: manlyness
I sure SMELL pretty manly when I drive my TJ around with no doors or
top during the summer!!! Does that count at all??? By the way... are
these ACTUAL words?? manly and manlyness??? LOL -Rob
30980 From: <shoebox555@a...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 4:11pm
Subject: Pulling together for USA
I spent my day @ home talking to my children about what happened .
We as a family decided it would be a good idea to make cards and letters for the people in these places. WHo need to know that every one here feels their pain and our hearts and prayers are with them.
We can't give blood for a few days but we can do this right now. It helped the kids understand about tradgieand that one small thing can make a difference to some one some where.
I encourage others to do the same. Please take a minute to draw a picture or write a note and send it .
Thank you and God Bless
Pam Sullivan
I will find a way to get these things sent. If you don't or can't send it yourself ,get it to me and I will ship a box out by the weekend.
30981 From: <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 8:15pm
Subject: Re: GIVE BLOOD
"Anyone know the major one here in AZ?" If you mean blood
suppliers, it's United Blood Services.
Lachlan
Not sure bout the west side though. I can't recall the
> > name....anyone know the major one here in az?
> >
> >
> > Mike
30982 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 8:45pm
Subject: [Tech] 1988 4.2l/258ci Wrangler - Conversion to MOPAR MPFI from a kit!
I found myself in a deleima with what to do to pass emissions and correct the constant carb ajustments necessary to keep my 4.2 alive.
The answer turned out to be a kit made for MOPAR by HESCO. Remember Clifford performance parts for 4.2s? Well he, Jeff and Bennie at
(205) 251-1472 or e-mail Jeff at hescosc@aol.com.came up with an answer. I purchased mine thru Jim Click for less than any magazine advertized! $1750.00 with
the harmonic-balancer! I bought P5249610 for manual transmission. They make one for auto too! 7 boxes and a detailed 15 page installation
manual plus 3 page tip sheet with ph# for help lines. Well, home I went and the work began! My garage and handle tools are'nt overtly complete
but in the advertised 8-10 hrs. I was done. Now I've got (from articles in 4-wheel mag.) 160hp and 230lbs or torgue. It starts easier gets better
gas-mileage and after a visit to the motor vehicle inspector to validate my work I easily past the state emissions test and have for the last two
years. The addition of Pacesetter headers and cat-back with a Jacob's igniton pushed my output up to about 180/265 respectively. Rock crawling
on off-camber situations, this system pays in dividends. I highly recommend a try or give me a call or e-mail me for a ride/info/advice/help.
My e-mail is gordonjoseph@qwest.net. Remember tread lightly. ;)
Joe Gordon
30983 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 8:42pm
Subject: [FS] wanted....stock yj springs
Price:
Contact: chris @ 602-526-2584
Chris Jean
30984 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 8:56pm
Subject: Fwd: Emergency Blood drive
Here is a post from the AZIPA group I am in too.
Mike Baney
In case you are wondering, AriZona Internet Professionl Assoc. Basically
web based like the VJC
Please do whatever you can to help those in there time of need. Below
is a list of all the United Blood Services locations:
United Blood Services
1989 W. Elliot Road
Chandler, AZ 85224
104 S. Robson Street
Mesa, AZ 85210
4530 E. Ray Road
Phoenix, AZ 85044
5905 W. Bell Road
Glendale, AZ 85308
2929 N. 75th Avenue
Phoenix, AZ 85033
3831 E. Thunderbird Road
Phoenix AZ 85032
1337 S. Gilbert Road
Mesa, AZ 85204
5757 N. Black Canyon Highway
Phoenix, AZ 85015
6220 E. Oak St.
Scottsdale, AZ 85257
> Due to the terrible tragedies this morning, there is an imminent need
> for a
> large amount of blood to be collected. The American Red Cross is
> holding an
> Emergency Blood Drive today starting at 11:00, with no ending time
> set.
>
> The location is at:
>
> 3707 N 7th Street between Osborne and Indian School on the East Side
> of the
> street.
>
> If you need any other information, please call
>
> 602-728-9633
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30985 From: Scott Legge <scottlegge@h...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 8:56pm
Subject: Re: Re: GIVE BLOOD
Try schools! I go to estrella mtn comm college and it was EMPTY! like 10
chairs and 2 people... Try elem schools too. call around and you can get in
at lunch breaks.
Scott Legge
----- Original Message -----
From: <jeepindog@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:15 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: GIVE BLOOD
> "Anyone know the major one here in AZ?" If you mean blood
> suppliers, it's United Blood Services.
>
> Lachlan
>
>
> Not sure bout the west side though. I can't recall the
> > > name....anyone know the major one here in az?
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike
>
>
>
>
>
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30986 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 9:00pm
Subject: Re: Fwd: Emergency Blood drive
> United Blood Services
> 1989 W. Elliot Road
> Chandler, AZ 85224
This is why when I passed by the parking lot of the strip mall at
Elliot & Dobson it was full.
--James
30987 From: T.J. Nosmo-King <ice626@h...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 9:28pm
Subject: Re: Re: Ethical Question
I have to agree w/Dan.....a few months ago I bought a trail rack from him....knowing full well that it came out of a TJ and would probably not fit my CJ (without modification).....and it didn't....now, I could have asked for my money back when I found it did not fit....and Dan probably would have given me my money back (giving him the benefit of the doubt).....but I knew what it was so I kept it....and thanx to some cutting and welding by Bill A., the rack fits and is very functional.......
TJ Gill
75 CJ5
327/TH350
If we aren't supposed to eat animals, why are they made with meat???
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30988 From: Kevin <nau88xj@h...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 10:03pm
Subject: Re: [jeep] Re: What's wrong? Followup
it was me
----- Original Message -----
From: <mitchelleb@h...>
To: <jeep@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:56 PM
Subject: [jeep] Re: What's wrong? Followup
> I went out this morning and my Jeep drove fine...until the engine
> bay warmed up, then the trouble was back, so I bought a set of wires
> and replaced them, now, it seems, everything is fine.
>
> BTW who was the Einstien that put the fuel filter IN the gas tank.
> So I am going to wait a little while before replacing it.
>
> Ed
>
>
> --- In jeep@y..., mike b <mmes@k...> wrote:
> > Well Bosch's web site says they are preset & I'm guessing that
> none looked noticeably messed up when they were put in... never know
> how many time Joe Bonehead at the Pep boys, napa ect.. might have
> dropped the box of plugs on the floor when he was stocking the
> shelves.
> > Fuel filter I think is mounted on the frame rail back near the gas
> tank I think. But I may be incorrect on that. I'm guessing that
> after 4 years it just might need changed even if it isn't really the
> problem ;-)
> > Mike B.
> > BTW: I personally replace the plug wires at at least every other
> tune up on all of my vehicles... I've acquired quite a few very nice
> vehicles over the years for very low prices because they have ran
> roughly when I bought them... almost all of them have miraculously
> ran perfect after new high quality KEM plug wires and a new set of
> Regular Autolite plugs.
> >
> > "Edward B. Mitchell" wrote:
> >
> > > I installed Bosch Plus Four, I could not tell how to gap them,
> but at six bucks each, they had better be properly gapped.
> > >
> > > As far as the wires go, everything seemed fine for a day and a
> half 100 to 125 miles.
> > >
> > > Now about the fuel filter, where is it? I can't find it
> anywhere.
> > >
> > > Ed
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: mike b
> > > To: jeep@y...
> > > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:54 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [jeep] What's wrong?
> > >
> > > Fuel Filter - when you ran the gas tank down a bit further
> than maybe you usually do you picked up some dirt / rust. Or might
> have been a bad tank of fuel. Or one last thing ... might be a bad /
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> > > Mike B.
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> if I accelerate normally or go up a hill I get big hesitations. If
> I accelerate slowly everything seems fine. Any Ideas?
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30989 From: Frank and Amanda Zepeda <zepeda199@y...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 7:23pm
Subject: Re: Re: OT terrorist attack
Thanks for the concern, life today definitely took
a unfortunate turn with todays events. I will
probably be off line for awhile, we have shifted to a
24 hour work schedule. I will let you know if I come
into any information.
Thanks again,
Frank
--- g_rob_williams@y... wrote:
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30990 From: Bill Aylesworth <julbill@r...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 10:32pm
Subject: Re: manlyness
OK, here it goes, would this be manly enough?!
1955 Willys M38A1. maunal items- brakes, steering,
turn signals, hand brake(no cables), choke, windshield
release latches, hood release latches(no thumb thingy
under the hood).
No air, no heat, no doors, no hard top, no side
mirrors, no gas gauge, no speedometer, no windshield
wipers, no horn.
Does have 8,000lbs winch, rollcage, descent seats, 5
point harness, oil gauge, temp gauge, amp gauge,
completely original drivetrain with 5:38 R&P,
extraction equipment of all types, high lift, jerry
can, wussey tire pump, spare parts, wounds from last
rollover, trace amounts of blood from last rollover
(bloody nose), twisted front fenders from tire
impacts, multiple dents from mother earth, priceless
pictures from Jon Loveless with my Jeep missing one
passenger front wheel assembly due to jumping. ( lots
of air on that one!!)
Oh yeah, I had a Toyota Corolla station wagon with
bullets holes in it! Does that count??
Bill A.
55M38A1
--- Tom LaFrance <tlafrance@j...> wrote:
> Now, in order to complete the "manly" profile, you
> MUST have manual
> brakes, manual steering, NO air conditioning, no
> heat, no doors and no
> wussy hard top :p
>
> Tom
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30991 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 11:35pm
Subject: [FS] 19' Tandem axle trailor
Price: 2,000 obo.
Contact: Jason Tolman azrockcrawler@hotmail.com or 602-363-4089
19' 2000 trailor. Steel floor, slide in ramps, electric brakes sway bar and drop hitch. 2" ball. I used to pull my 85 cj on it but now I bought a 98 TJ. must sail!!!
jason tolman
30967 From: Michael B. Wixom <mwixom@q...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 2:02pm
Subject: Ethical Question
When we sell a part on the classified section of the web sight where does our responsibility end? I advertised some parts for sale, fully disclosing the origin of the parts and there application. The parts were in good condition, with no flaws. Am I responsible if they do not fit the vehicle that the party bought them for with out some minor modifications? I must also state that I have already agreed to refund the money, I was just curious how others in the club felt about it.
Mike Wixom
85 CJ-7
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30968 From: Chris R. <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 2:13pm
Subject: Re: Re: GIVE BLOOD
The Red Cross is one and the major one that deals with blood donations is
United Blood Services.
Chris
http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:16:54 -0000, jeepin_in_az@y... wrote:
> There is one on 7th street and osborn, I think, and also one in
> downtown Scottsdale,(James won't be going to that one;)). They are
> extremely busy, and recommend waiting a day or two before going in.
> They will need blood for several weeks, so if you don't get in today,
> please go with in the week. This was heard on KZON 101.5, they were
> talking with one of the directors of the blood center. They are
> planning to open a center overnight in the east valley for us east
> siders....Not sure bout the west side though. I can't recall the
> name....anyone know the major one here in az?
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> - In az_vjc@y..., "Garrison St.Clair" <gunslinger@i...> wrote:
> > Blair,
> >
> > I'm not in AZ so I'm posting your question about Blood Center
> locations back
> > to the list.
> >
> > Gunslinger
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Blair" <blairb20@h...>
> > To: "Garrison St.Clair" <gunslinger@i...>
> > Sent: Tuesday, 11 September, 2001 14:25
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] GIVE BLOOD
> >
> >
> > > Thanks Garrison... almost all the local donation centers are too
> busy to
> > get
> > > through right now, unfortunately. Anyone know where the centers
> are so
> > that
> > > people can just show up?
> > >
> > > -B
> > >
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30969 From: <jsteele1999@y...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 2:57pm
Subject: Re: Ethical Question
With used stuff it is customary to consider it "as is", "where is".
Buyer normally assumes all responsibility.
I myself would stretch this a bit. If someone buys something from me
and gripes later, about any little thing, I'd offer to buy it back,
assuming it has not been altered.
Jerry
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Michael B. Wixom" <mwixom@q...> wrote:
> When we sell a part on the classified section of the web sight where
does our responsibility end? I advertised some parts for sale, fully
disclosing the origin of the parts and there application. The parts
were in good condition, with no flaws. Am I responsible if they do
not fit the vehicle that the party bought them for with out some minor
modifications? I must also state that I have already agreed to refund
the money, I was just curious how others in the club felt about it.
>
> Mike Wixom
> 85 CJ-7
30970 From: JEEP THANG <jeep_thang@h...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 3:02pm
Subject: Re: Ethical Question
In my opinion, if you fully disclosed all information regarding the
parts in question. Then the party that purchased the parts or
equipment, should have been fully aware if they would not fit the
application that they needed them for. I would not refund anything
until I got the parts/equipment in question returned in the condition
that it was recieved by the party in question. They could just be
taking you for a ride.
those are the chances that you take when purchasing equipment without
knowing what exactly you need.
Sincerely: JEEP THANG
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Michael B. Wixom" <mwixom@q...> wrote:
> When we sell a part on the classified section of the web sight
where does our responsibility end? I advertised some parts for sale,
fully disclosing the origin of the parts and there application. The
parts were in good condition, with no flaws. Am I responsible if
they do not fit the vehicle that the party bought them for with out
some minor modifications? I must also state that I have already
agreed to refund the money, I was just curious how others in the club
felt about it.
>
> Mike Wixom
> 85 CJ-7
30971 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 3:05pm
Subject: Re: Ethical Question
Mike,
I don't believe so.
Ex: I recently replied to someone looking for a Sahara spare cover on
JU. The guy who wanted it and I exchanged emails several times. On
one of the last emails I noticed his sig had his vehicle listed as a
YJ, well this cover came from a TJ. I notified him it was from a TJ
and there may be a differnce. He said, don't worry just send it
anyway.
The point being, it cost me $11.50 to mail it. I sold it for $25
including shipping. If I would have to take it back I loose $11.50.
Why should I take the loss when he knew the situation? Now maybe it
didn't cost you any money but, I bet it costed you some time. Time is
money. Why should you loose out if someone else doesn't care enough
to notice.
This being said, it might be nice for you to take them back but, you
aren't obligated.
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Michael B. Wixom" <mwixom@q...> wrote:
> When we sell a part on the classified section of the web sight
where does our responsibility end? I advertised some parts for sale,
fully disclosing the origin of the parts and there application. The
parts were in good condition, with no flaws. Am I responsible if
they do not fit the vehicle that the party bought them for with out
some minor modifications? I must also state that I have already
agreed to refund the money, I was just curious how others in the club
felt about it.
>
> Mike Wixom
> 85 CJ-7
30972 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 3:08pm
Subject: Re: Ethical Question
As a comparison, I'm not sure I've ever bought a part (new or used)
other than an air filter that didn't require some (minor or major)
modification in order for it to fit or function properly, regardless
of the condition of the part or what it was going on to.
Second, if you made it clear to the buyer the *intended* application,
and the parts honestly had no flaws, then I don't see a problem.
If the case is someone buying something for their jeep that was not
*specifically* designed or engineered for their jeep model, then they
are accepting that responsibility.
What is the issue at hand? As the specifics will go a long way in
deciding who is right and who is not, which I believe is a valid
question because you have asked the entire group. :)
Don't take your cases to municipal, court take them to JEEP CLUB
COURT! :)
30973 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 3:10pm
Subject: Re: Ethical Question
If it is clearly stated in the ad that it will fit XYZ application and the person buying it knows and understands this, then it should be up to the person selling the item to say if they will take it back. It is my OPINION (key word) that if someone buys something that is not specifically for their application and they know it, then they should not expect to be able to return it to get their money back.
Again, just my opinion.
Chris K
From: "Michael B. Wixom"
Organization: Certified Inspection Service Co., Inc.
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:02:00 -0700
To: "AZ Virtual Jeep Club"
Subject: [az_vjc] Ethical Question
When we sell a part on the classified section of the web sight where does our responsibility end? I advertised some parts for sale, fully disclosing the origin of the parts and there application. The parts were in good condition, with no flaws. Am I responsible if they do not fit the vehicle that the party bought them for with out some minor modifications? I must also state that I have already agreed to refund the money, I was just curious how others in the club felt about it.
Mike Wixom
85 CJ-7
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30974 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 3:39pm
Subject: Re: manlyness
How could he have seen it, your description leads me to believe there
is nothing there to be seen! :D
Seriously though, that is pretty cool.
--- In az_vjc@y..., Scott Bruns<Scott.Bruns@R...> wrote:
> Tom, you must have seen my old Jeep.
>
> My '67 CJ-6 has: No hard top, no soft top, no bikini top, no doors,
no roll bar, no A/C, no heater, no defroster, no rear bumper, no
emergency brake, no winch, no windshield wipers, no flares, no power
steering, no power brakes, no auto canceling turn signals, no glove
box, no gas pedal (just a rod sticking out of the floor) and not even
a horn.
>
> Yes, it runs. I even drove it to work once. And it is not a
stripped Jeep. It never had a top, doors, a/c, heater, emergency
brake, flares, and not even a horn, right from the factory.
>
> If I score 1 point for each no, I get a total score of 19. 20 if I
count each wiper motor without wiring or a wiper arm separately. A
manly score indeed!
>
>
>
>
> >>> Tom LaFrance <tlafrance@j...> 9/11/01 7:18:56 AM >>>
> Now, in order to complete the "manly" profile, you MUST have manual
> brakes, manual steering, NO air conditioning, no heat, no doors and
no
> wussy hard top :p
>
> Tom
>
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30975 From: Kevin <nau88xj@h...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 4:13pm
Subject: Re: manlyness
IM MANLY!!! I even have front and rear DRUM brakes!!!! unfortunatly my cj
will become a wuss-jeep with the soon to happen 4wheel discs, power steering
w/hydraulic assist and other mods that are currently ordered or working on.
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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:18 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] manlyness
> Now, in order to complete the "manly" profile, you MUST have manual
> brakes, manual steering, NO air conditioning, no heat, no doors and no
> wussy hard top :p
>
> Tom
>
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30976 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 4:30pm
Subject: Re: GIVE BLOOD
Given how pissed I normally am and how much more pissed I am today,
going to Snottsdale wouldn't be a good idea right now. You are
correct. :)
They will probably have something at ASU one day.
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., jeepin_in_az@y... wrote:
> There is one on 7th street and osborn, I think, and also one in
> downtown Scottsdale,(James won't be going to that one;)). They are
> extremely busy, and recommend waiting a day or two before going
in.
> They will need blood for several weeks, so if you don't get in
today,
> please go with in the week. This was heard on KZON 101.5, they
were
> talking with one of the directors of the blood center. They are
> planning to open a center overnight in the east valley for us east
> siders....Not sure bout the west side though. I can't recall the
> name....anyone know the major one here in az?
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> - In az_vjc@y..., "Garrison St.Clair" <gunslinger@i...> wrote:
> > Blair,
> >
> > I'm not in AZ so I'm posting your question about Blood Center
> locations back
> > to the list.
> >
> > Gunslinger
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Blair" <blairb20@h...>
> > To: "Garrison St.Clair" <gunslinger@i...>
> > Sent: Tuesday, 11 September, 2001 14:25
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] GIVE BLOOD
> >
> >
> > > Thanks Garrison... almost all the local donation centers are
too
> busy to
> > get
> > > through right now, unfortunately. Anyone know where the centers
> are so
> > that
> > > people can just show up?
> > >
> > > -B
> > >
> > >
30977 From: Tom LaFrance <tlafrance@j...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 4:31pm
Subject: Member sighting
Spotted......13:00, Fountain Hills, headed up Palisades by Safeway,
Forest Green TJ. No doors, HUGE winch on front, club stickers proudly
displayed. I was in the grocery getting Malibu with the Mrs headed to a
late lunch.
NICE JEEP, here is your wave :)
Tom LaFrance
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30978 From: UF RULZ <scoopman_2000@y...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 1:46pm
Subject: Re: Re: OT terrorist attack
Pete Wirch, you out there? I sure hope so. I think I
remember that he was moving to NY. My thoughts and
prayers go out to everyone today, this is a tragic
event. Just thinking about it brings tears to my
eyes, I just hope that we(America) never let this
happen again.
Aaron
99TJ
--- jeepin_in_az@y... wrote:
> I just found out I have a neice that lives in NYC.
> She is my sister-
> in-laws daughter, and I never met her. She goes to
> college 2 BLOCKS
> away from the former trade building. I just found
> out she is ok, and
> she really had no clue what was happening until she
> got the call from
> my sister-in-law. She was getting ready for class
> at her apartment,
> when her mom explained what was happening. She
> looked out the window
> and watched everything! I won't be suprised if she
> saw them
> collapse. I am just glad to know she is ok. I hope
> the rest
> of "our" Jeep clubs families are ok too.
>
> Mike Baney
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Chris R." <my1stjeep@e...>
> wrote:
> > With both Towers down, the planes in Penn. and the
> Pentagon it is
> time for
> > us to say our prayers for the families of those
> lost in this
> tragedy. I
> > hope all is well with everyones family.
> >
> > Chris
> > http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
> > My1stJeep@e...
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> > On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:13:25 -0700, Jesus Chio -
> AllOffRoad wrote:
> >
> > > One of the towers just fell!
> > >
> > > My dad was in GA and flew to San Antonio early
> in the moorning,
> now all
> > the
> > > flights are closed, oh gosh
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jesus Chio
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> > > To: <az_vjc@y...>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:43 AM
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] OT terrorist attack
> > >
> > >
> > > > Turn on the news... two jets have crashed in
> to the world trade
> > > > center buildings, FBI is calling it a
> terrorist attack. It
> happened
> > > > at 6:00 this morning our time. -Rob
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30979 From: <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 7:59pm
Subject: Re: manlyness
I sure SMELL pretty manly when I drive my TJ around with no doors or
top during the summer!!! Does that count at all??? By the way... are
these ACTUAL words?? manly and manlyness??? LOL -Rob
30980 From: <shoebox555@a...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 4:11pm
Subject: Pulling together for USA
I spent my day @ home talking to my children about what happened .
We as a family decided it would be a good idea to make cards and letters for the people in these places. WHo need to know that every one here feels their pain and our hearts and prayers are with them.
We can't give blood for a few days but we can do this right now. It helped the kids understand about tradgieand that one small thing can make a difference to some one some where.
I encourage others to do the same. Please take a minute to draw a picture or write a note and send it .
Thank you and God Bless
Pam Sullivan
I will find a way to get these things sent. If you don't or can't send it yourself ,get it to me and I will ship a box out by the weekend.
30981 From: <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 8:15pm
Subject: Re: GIVE BLOOD
"Anyone know the major one here in AZ?" If you mean blood
suppliers, it's United Blood Services.
Lachlan
Not sure bout the west side though. I can't recall the
> > name....anyone know the major one here in az?
> >
> >
> > Mike
30982 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 8:45pm
Subject: [Tech] 1988 4.2l/258ci Wrangler - Conversion to MOPAR MPFI from a kit!
I found myself in a deleima with what to do to pass emissions and correct the constant carb ajustments necessary to keep my 4.2 alive.
The answer turned out to be a kit made for MOPAR by HESCO. Remember Clifford performance parts for 4.2s? Well he, Jeff and Bennie at
(205) 251-1472 or e-mail Jeff at hescosc@aol.com.came up with an answer. I purchased mine thru Jim Click for less than any magazine advertized! $1750.00 with
the harmonic-balancer! I bought P5249610 for manual transmission. They make one for auto too! 7 boxes and a detailed 15 page installation
manual plus 3 page tip sheet with ph# for help lines. Well, home I went and the work began! My garage and handle tools are'nt overtly complete
but in the advertised 8-10 hrs. I was done. Now I've got (from articles in 4-wheel mag.) 160hp and 230lbs or torgue. It starts easier gets better
gas-mileage and after a visit to the motor vehicle inspector to validate my work I easily past the state emissions test and have for the last two
years. The addition of Pacesetter headers and cat-back with a Jacob's igniton pushed my output up to about 180/265 respectively. Rock crawling
on off-camber situations, this system pays in dividends. I highly recommend a try or give me a call or e-mail me for a ride/info/advice/help.
My e-mail is gordonjoseph@qwest.net. Remember tread lightly. ;)
Joe Gordon
30983 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 8:42pm
Subject: [FS] wanted....stock yj springs
Price:
Contact: chris @ 602-526-2584
Chris Jean
30984 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 8:56pm
Subject: Fwd: Emergency Blood drive
Here is a post from the AZIPA group I am in too.
Mike Baney
In case you are wondering, AriZona Internet Professionl Assoc. Basically
web based like the VJC
Please do whatever you can to help those in there time of need. Below
is a list of all the United Blood Services locations:
United Blood Services
1989 W. Elliot Road
Chandler, AZ 85224
104 S. Robson Street
Mesa, AZ 85210
4530 E. Ray Road
Phoenix, AZ 85044
5905 W. Bell Road
Glendale, AZ 85308
2929 N. 75th Avenue
Phoenix, AZ 85033
3831 E. Thunderbird Road
Phoenix AZ 85032
1337 S. Gilbert Road
Mesa, AZ 85204
5757 N. Black Canyon Highway
Phoenix, AZ 85015
6220 E. Oak St.
Scottsdale, AZ 85257
> Due to the terrible tragedies this morning, there is an imminent need
> for a
> large amount of blood to be collected. The American Red Cross is
> holding an
> Emergency Blood Drive today starting at 11:00, with no ending time
> set.
>
> The location is at:
>
> 3707 N 7th Street between Osborne and Indian School on the East Side
> of the
> street.
>
> If you need any other information, please call
>
> 602-728-9633
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30985 From: Scott Legge <scottlegge@h...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 8:56pm
Subject: Re: Re: GIVE BLOOD
Try schools! I go to estrella mtn comm college and it was EMPTY! like 10
chairs and 2 people... Try elem schools too. call around and you can get in
at lunch breaks.
Scott Legge
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:15 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: GIVE BLOOD
> "Anyone know the major one here in AZ?" If you mean blood
> suppliers, it's United Blood Services.
>
> Lachlan
>
>
> Not sure bout the west side though. I can't recall the
> > > name....anyone know the major one here in az?
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike
>
>
>
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30986 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 9:00pm
Subject: Re: Fwd: Emergency Blood drive
> United Blood Services
> 1989 W. Elliot Road
> Chandler, AZ 85224
This is why when I passed by the parking lot of the strip mall at
Elliot & Dobson it was full.
--James
30987 From: T.J. Nosmo-King <ice626@h...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 9:28pm
Subject: Re: Re: Ethical Question
I have to agree w/Dan.....a few months ago I bought a trail rack from him....knowing full well that it came out of a TJ and would probably not fit my CJ (without modification).....and it didn't....now, I could have asked for my money back when I found it did not fit....and Dan probably would have given me my money back (giving him the benefit of the doubt).....but I knew what it was so I kept it....and thanx to some cutting and welding by Bill A., the rack fits and is very functional.......
TJ Gill
75 CJ5
327/TH350
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30988 From: Kevin <nau88xj@h...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 10:03pm
Subject: Re: [jeep] Re: What's wrong? Followup
it was me
----- Original Message -----
From: <mitchelleb@h...>
To: <jeep@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:56 PM
Subject: [jeep] Re: What's wrong? Followup
> I went out this morning and my Jeep drove fine...until the engine
> bay warmed up, then the trouble was back, so I bought a set of wires
> and replaced them, now, it seems, everything is fine.
>
> BTW who was the Einstien that put the fuel filter IN the gas tank.
> So I am going to wait a little while before replacing it.
>
> Ed
>
>
> --- In jeep@y..., mike b <mmes@k...> wrote:
> > Well Bosch's web site says they are preset & I'm guessing that
> none looked noticeably messed up when they were put in... never know
> how many time Joe Bonehead at the Pep boys, napa ect.. might have
> dropped the box of plugs on the floor when he was stocking the
> shelves.
> > Fuel filter I think is mounted on the frame rail back near the gas
> tank I think. But I may be incorrect on that. I'm guessing that
> after 4 years it just might need changed even if it isn't really the
> problem ;-)
> > Mike B.
> > BTW: I personally replace the plug wires at at least every other
> tune up on all of my vehicles... I've acquired quite a few very nice
> vehicles over the years for very low prices because they have ran
> roughly when I bought them... almost all of them have miraculously
> ran perfect after new high quality KEM plug wires and a new set of
> Regular Autolite plugs.
> >
> > "Edward B. Mitchell" wrote:
> >
> > > I installed Bosch Plus Four, I could not tell how to gap them,
> but at six bucks each, they had better be properly gapped.
> > >
> > > As far as the wires go, everything seemed fine for a day and a
> half 100 to 125 miles.
> > >
> > > Now about the fuel filter, where is it? I can't find it
> anywhere.
> > >
> > > Ed
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: mike b
> > > To: jeep@y...
> > > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:54 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [jeep] What's wrong?
> > >
> > > Fuel Filter - when you ran the gas tank down a bit further
> than maybe you usually do you picked up some dirt / rust. Or might
> have been a bad tank of fuel. Or one last thing ... might be a bad /
> loose plug wire... are you sure none of them separated when you
> pulled them off and did you make sure they were all fully seated on
> the plug when they were reinstalled?
> > > Mike B.
> > > BTW: you did gap all the plugs when you installed them didn't
> you? I've been finding that alot of the plugs I've bought lately are
> not real consistently gapped out of the box anymore like they used
> to be.
> > >
> > > "Edward B. Mitchell" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yesterday I changed Plugs, rotor and cap. Afterward it drove
> just fine. This morning I took a one way 100 mile trip, and gas up
> at Chevron. This afternoon, the engine is not acting normal. I
> feel like the engine is running fine with an occasional surge, yet
> if I accelerate normally or go up a hill I get big hesitations. If
> I accelerate slowly everything seems fine. Any Ideas?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > ED
> > > > 1997 ZJ w/ 5.2
> > > >
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30989 From: Frank and Amanda Zepeda <zepeda199@y...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 7:23pm
Subject: Re: Re: OT terrorist attack
Thanks for the concern, life today definitely took
a unfortunate turn with todays events. I will
probably be off line for awhile, we have shifted to a
24 hour work schedule. I will let you know if I come
into any information.
Thanks again,
Frank
--- g_rob_williams@y... wrote:
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> attacks, and to our
> club members in the military like Frank!
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30990 From: Bill Aylesworth <julbill@r...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 10:32pm
Subject: Re: manlyness
OK, here it goes, would this be manly enough?!
1955 Willys M38A1. maunal items- brakes, steering,
turn signals, hand brake(no cables), choke, windshield
release latches, hood release latches(no thumb thingy
under the hood).
No air, no heat, no doors, no hard top, no side
mirrors, no gas gauge, no speedometer, no windshield
wipers, no horn.
Does have 8,000lbs winch, rollcage, descent seats, 5
point harness, oil gauge, temp gauge, amp gauge,
completely original drivetrain with 5:38 R&P,
extraction equipment of all types, high lift, jerry
can, wussey tire pump, spare parts, wounds from last
rollover, trace amounts of blood from last rollover
(bloody nose), twisted front fenders from tire
impacts, multiple dents from mother earth, priceless
pictures from Jon Loveless with my Jeep missing one
passenger front wheel assembly due to jumping. ( lots
of air on that one!!)
Oh yeah, I had a Toyota Corolla station wagon with
bullets holes in it! Does that count??
Bill A.
55M38A1
--- Tom LaFrance <tlafrance@j...> wrote:
> Now, in order to complete the "manly" profile, you
> MUST have manual
> brakes, manual steering, NO air conditioning, no
> heat, no doors and no
> wussy hard top :p
>
> Tom
>
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30991 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Sep 11, 2001 11:35pm
Subject: [FS] 19' Tandem axle trailor
Price: 2,000 obo.
Contact: Jason Tolman azrockcrawler@hotmail.com or 602-363-4089
19' 2000 trailor. Steel floor, slide in ramps, electric brakes sway bar and drop hitch. 2" ball. I used to pull my 85 cj on it but now I bought a 98 TJ. must sail!!!
jason tolman