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30617 From: Keith D. Orr <korr@z...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 2:56pm
Subject: RigRater Score
My score is 642RRv1.0 for my 87 XJ
Casper
87XJ
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30618 From: Scott Thomas <sthomas@a...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 3:02pm
Subject: Transmission Radiator Cooler?
I have a friend that has told me a few times that I need to install a
cooling radiator for my transmission. Does anyone else have one of these on
their Jeeps? What is the benefit of doing this? I have a 97' Tj with a
4.0L and an auto transmission. TIA.
Thanks,
Scott Thomas
97' Tj
30619 From: DesertJeep <joey@j...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 3:12pm
Subject: RE: rate your rig...
I scored:
344RRv1.0
Break-Over Angle (BOA) is 21.40 degrees
But my off road driving skills make up the difference. ;)
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: msa12171@a... [mailto:msa12171@a...]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:42 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] rate your rig...
>
>
> I got this off of JU. Lets see how everyone rates. Who gets the
> highest score. NO CHEATING! I'll tell you mine later...
>
> www.rigrater.com
>
>
> Mike Anderson
>
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30620 From: <sinanturel@y...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 3:12pm
Subject: Re: ANOTHER Emissions test Question
Well me thinks NOX is most likely to be the EGR valve.
Good luck
Sinan
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Matt Wollam" <wooola@h...> wrote:
>
30621 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 3:23pm
Subject: [FS] Hitch & Cargo Rack
Price: $ 100.00
Contact: cbabich@banicki.com
2" frame mount hitch for TJ + hitch receiver cargo rack.
Charlie Babich
30622 From: Dan Siegel <cruzeunit@y...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 3:29pm
Subject: Re: rate your rig...
I got a...
617RRv1.0
(BOA) is 18.92 degrees
I had to guess on the belly mesurement though.
Dan
30623 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 3:33pm
Subject: RE: rate your rig...
905 boa 31.5deg
Kind of interesting site.
Ross
-----Original Message-----
From: msa12171@a... [mailto:msa12171@a...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:42 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] rate your rig...
I got this off of JU. Lets see how everyone rates. Who gets the
highest score. NO CHEATING! I'll tell you mine later...
www.rigrater.com
Mike Anderson
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30624 From: <Mike@A...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 3:46pm
Subject: Re: TeraLo
If you take your Crawl Ratio and Divide it by the circumference of
your tire you can find out how many times the crankshaft rotates per
inch travelled.
In your case: 99/(35 x 3.14) = .9 Revolutions Per Inch (RPI)
I think most people's ideal crawl speed is about 1 RPI, although some
extreme crawlers want to get to 2 RPI.
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., tom le <tomle_85024@y...> wrote:
> Please note that this formula is independent
> on the tire size although as you know, it is somewhat
> a function of it (e.g., bigger tires will crawl a
> little faster than the smaller tires).
30625 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 4:08pm
Subject: [TR] Broken Arrow - Saturday, September 29, 2001
Hello All,
Dustin Ewald is leading a Broken Arrow trail run on Saturday, September 29, 2001.
When: September 29th or even 30th.
Where: Broken Arrow Near Sedona
Rating: 2.5+
Length: Couple Hours+
CB Channel: 4
Wanting to go to Broken Arrow or possible other 2.5-3.5 trail (just wanna get away from the heat) I am looking for someone other than me to lead this trip, as I have never been to this trail, or even on a trip yet with the AZVJC. So anyone looking to take the lead on this one, it would be awsome.
thanks!
Dustin - 92 XJ
delfindle@aol.com
Broken Arrow is a fun trail with great scenery. A stock Jeep can make this run and there are areas for those with built rigs to test and flex their suspension, such as the Crack. Pay attention to the signs, as part of this trail is a one-way loop.
A lot of Pink Jeeps share the trail so please put your best foot forward while representing our club. For many of the passengers on those Jeep tours, you are the first real off-roader they have ever seen (gosh, that is a scarey thought!) You will find that most of the pink drivers are pretty cool!
The Devil's Staircase is fun, and some members have been known to run it bottom-to-top. If you do, please post a look-out at the top to prevent someone from coming down while you are trying to go up.
It usually takes a couple of hours to make the loop, which allows ample time for pictures and a stop at Chicken Point for lunch (you did bring lunch, didn't you?)
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
30626 From: <ldoctor1957@a...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 0:14pm
Subject: Re: rate your rig...
In a message dated 9/5/01 6:09:17 PM !!!First Boot!!!, msa12171@aol.com
writes:
www.rigrater.com
I got 620 with a BOA of 19.00
Jim Lambertus
30627 From: <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 4:18pm
Subject: Re: FW: Off Road Park
I think we acctually want the park Chris, not piss them off :-)
Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...> wrote:
> Maybe Scott Kruize?
>
> :-)
>
> Chris K
>
> > From: Mike@A...
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: FW: Off Road Park
> >
> > Dunno, maybe someone with more "Diplomatic Skill" than I have
should
> > call?
> >
> > - Mike
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Baja Fleg" <fleigle@h...> wrote:
> >> Wow they skated by you question pretty well didn't they!! Maybe
we
> > should
> >> start squeaking the wheel more then. Hey Mike you gonna call
that
> > guy?
> >>
> >> Fleg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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30628 From: JW <joew@a...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 4:22pm
Subject: RE: rate your rig...
860 with BOA=29.84
Joe West
30629 From: chiena <chiena@e...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 4:17pm
Subject: Re: Slave Cylinder WOAHHSS!!!! revisited again :(
I had the same stinkin problem a year ago. 4 slave cylinder a year. on an 87
with the BA10 puegot. Finally replace the the tranny with a 97 AX15 External
slave cylinder, haven't had a problem since.......
----- Original Message -----
From: "David O'Boyle" <davidoboyle@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 11:02 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Slave Cylinder WOAHHSS!!!! revisited again :(
> Well Gang,
> Yet another Slave cylinder bites the dust.. 4th one in 3 years..
> The most recent on was changed with all MOPAR parts.
> clutch, pressure plate, fluid, slave cylinder.
> Anyone devise a modification to eliminate the hydrolic slave cylinder and
> convert to a regular old throwout bering??? I'd be really interested in
this
> type of setup if any of you FAB guys have devised such a creation.. The
AX15
> is a good tranny but the slave cylinders SUCK!!!
> I have tried every brand and frankly I am sick of tearing out my tranny to
> replace this repeatedly faulty part. So if you or anyone you know has
> modifyed or is in the process of modifying/eliminating this part please
> contact me..
>
> Thanks a bunch
> Dave
> 623-327-1486
>
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30630 From: Scott Legge <scottlegge@h...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 4:36pm
Subject: Re: rate your rig...
381RRv1.0
Your Break-Over Angle (BOA) is 13.97 degrees!
BONE *** STOCK 1972 IH scoutII
Scott Legge
30631 From: Shawn and Michelle <smpassmore@e...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 4:51pm
Subject: rig rater
Ok mine was a wimpy,
" My RigRater Score: 425RRv1.0 with a BOA of 18.94 -- http://www.rigrater.com"
For now!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shawn
jeepcj5nut
30632 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 4:48pm
Subject: RE: rate your rig...
Hey Joe with your Off Road Driving skills it makes us even!
I scored:
344RRv1.0
Break-Over Angle (BOA) is 21.40 degrees
Giant :) at ya!
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JW [mailto:joew@a...]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:23 PM
> To: 'Ross Skinner'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] rate your rig...
>
>
> 860 with BOA=29.84
>
> Joe West
>
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30633 From: Bill Mish <yldkat55@h...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 4:52pm
Subject: Re: rate your rig...
1048RRV1.0
BOA 28.26
Bill Mish
1955 Willys CJ3B
----- Original Message -----
From: <msa12171@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:41 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] rate your rig...
> I got this off of JU. Lets see how everyone rates. Who gets the
> highest score. NO CHEATING! I'll tell you mine later...
>
> www.rigrater.com
>
>
> Mike Anderson
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
30634 From: Jake Wagner <jakewagner@y...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 5:03pm
Subject: My Rigrater score
MY TJ scored:
354RRv1.0 with a BOA of 12.57 --
http://www.rigrater.com
Jake
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30635 From: Mark Peterson <stinger75ih@a...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 5:08pm
Subject: Re: rate your rig...
698RRv1.0
Your Break-Over Angle (BOA) is 19.84 degrees!
Slightly modified 75 IH Scout II
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Legge" <scottlegge@h...> wrote:
> 381RRv1.0
> Your Break-Over Angle (BOA) is 13.97 degrees!
>
> BONE *** STOCK 1972 IH scoutII
>
> Scott Legge
30636 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 5:18pm
Subject: Re: SOA Help
Well Guys,
The Wrenching party is off for this weekend, Chris said I should get my springs next week so how does next weekend sound, So far I have a few people that want to help and that is great but none that I have performed a springover, So If you have done one I would really like your help as well, (beer, pizza you name it ) TIA
Scott "Iron" Maiden
01 GSX-R 750....o~`o
http://www.scottmaiden.gixxer.com
bermboy@hotmail.com
>From: "mike"
>To: "Scott Maiden"
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] SOA Help
>Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 11:30:04 -0700
>
>Hey Scott,
>where in the valley are you? I'm slowly getting my CJ7 back together, and the SOA is soon to come... I might be interested in stopping by to watch yours go together.
>
>Michael
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott Maiden
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 1:39 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] SOA Help
>
>
>
>
>
> Well Guys,
> If all goes to plan I will start my soa this weekend(if my springs come in) so I was just wondering if anyone that has done one would like to stop by and lend a hand (or two) I believe I have everything I need right now and have access to a welder etc. just shoot me an email if you want my address or you can just send me some tips, etc. TIA
>
> Scott "Iron" Maiden
> 93 Green YJ (soon to be SOA)
> bermboy@hotmail.com
>
>
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30637 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 5:22pm
Subject: [FS] Wanted: Double Tube chrome bumper w/ hitch
Price:
Contact: Matt Baker: all_stud_99@yahoo.com/or623-975-6311
Matt Baker
30638 From: Ralph Williams <ralphbw@q...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 5:29pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Chivo Falls or Charouleau Gap - Sep 15th
Mike, I think there are some ZJ's doing Chivo Falls on the 15th.
Take a look in the Grand Cherokee Forum at Jeepsunlimited. I saw
them discussing it there.
Ralph
"Chatfield, Mike" wrote:
>
> I'm interested in running either Chivo Falls or Charouleau Gap, Sat, Sep
> 15th.
>
> I know Charouleau Gap has been done twice in the last month, but I had prior
> commitments and couldn't make it. I've run Chivo Falls once, a few years
> ago, but have never done Charouleau Gap. Either way I don't know the route,
> although I'm sure I could find my way across Chivo Falls, if I can find the
> trail head.
>
> Any takers?
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Mike
>
>
>
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30639 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 5:36pm
Subject: RE: Re: rate your rig...
My RigRater Score: 655RRv1.0 with a BOA of 19.94 --
http://www.rigrater.com
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member. "Groucho
Marx"
Member of the original dirty have dozen.
http://stk-yj.alloffroad.com/index.html
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Peterson [mailto:stinger75ih@a...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:08 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: rate your rig...
698RRv1.0
Your Break-Over Angle (BOA) is 19.84 degrees!
Slightly modified 75 IH Scout II
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Legge" <scottlegge@h...> wrote:
> 381RRv1.0
> Your Break-Over Angle (BOA) is 13.97 degrees!
>
> BONE *** STOCK 1972 IH scoutII
>
> Scott Legge
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30640 From: Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 5:43pm
Subject: RE: Re: TeraLo
Tom,
That tranny swap is sounding sweeter.
A 700R4 swap would be (2*3.06*4*4.56)= 111.6:1
An NV4500 swap would be (5.61*4*4.56)= 102.32
I'm currently at (3.88*4*4.56)= 70.7:1
Stock was (3.88*2.72*3.73)= 39.3:1
The NV4500 is a much easier swap to do and has the braking advantage.
More to think about....
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: tom le [mailto:tomle_85024@y...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 2:24 PM
To: Scott Kruize; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: TeraLo
Scott,
Damon is correct and here is my backup details. Since
my '94 ZJ has a 2.71:1 O/I on 1st gear, hence, the CR
= 2*2.71*4*4.56 = 99:1, thanks to an automatic torque
convert. Please note that this formula is independent
on the tire size although as you know, it is somewhat
a function of it (e.g., bigger tires will crawl a
little faster than the smaller tires).
Tom
--- Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...> wrote:
> Thanks to everyone that replied to my torque
> converter crawl ratio
> multiplication question. I'm still debating a 700R4
> swap so the more
> info the better.
>
> Scott
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., Damon Gentile <dgentile@s...>
> wrote:
> > Nature of the torque converter will just about
> double the crawl
> > ratio. A low speed "RV" converter is closer to
> 2.4:1, some of the
> > streetracer converters come close tot 1.5:1.
> >
> >
> > Probably a better explanation than I could come up
> with can be
> > found at :
> http://www.howstuffworks.com/torque-converter.htm
> >
> > If you don't believe this 'multiplication' of
> torque - you should
> > be able to prove it from the flipside. Engine
> braking with an
> > automatic is about half that of a manual...
> > (unless you hotrod the lockup clutch *vbg*)
> >
> > -d
> > Daddy Longlegs wrote:
> > >
> > > Tom,
> > >
> > > What is the first gear ratio on your auto? 3.06
> is a fairly steep
> ratio for
> > > an auto. If we give your auto the benefit of the
> doubt and we use
> that
> > > number your actual crawl ratio in first gear
> might be 56:1. Yes
> the auto
> > > seems to multiply that figure but the REAL ratio
> is still 56:1.
> > >
> > > Jon has a 5 speed so his ratio would actually be
> higher than
> > > yours(3.86*4*4.56)= 70.4:1. But once again the
> torque converter
> seems to
> > > raise the felt ratio compared to his.
> > >
> > > Correct me if I'm missing something here. This
> is all friendly in
> nature :)
> > >
> > > Anybody have any input as to how much the auto
> affects this? I'm
> curious.
> > > Please back up your responses if you can.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: tom le [mailto:tomle_85024@y...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 9:49 AM
> > > To: Jon Loveless; az_vjc@y...
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] TeraLo
> > >
> > > Jon,
> > > That's an excellent decision to go to 4.56s.
> This is
> > > the current setup on ZJ w/ about 100:1 CR (106"
> wb,
> > > 36" SSR, 4.56s, and auto transmission). I've
> > > experienced the same thing on the whine noise at
> > > higher revs on mine and according to Teraflex
> where I
> > > purchased the Teralow4:1, it is normal. Are you
> going
> > > to install the new gears & Teralow all by
> yourself?
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > --- Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...> wrote:
> > > > It is normal. It is chain driven and with the
> low
> > > > gears you tend to get a
> > > > serious whine at higher revs in anything but
> 1st.
> > > > TeraFlex also cautions
> > > > against running your Jeep in higher gears in
> 4low
> > > > for very long due to the
> > > > excessive speed. It sounds bad enough so that
> isn't
> > > > a problem. I just found
> > > > that I have a real gap between 1st Hi and 1st
> Lo.
> > > > With 3.73 gearing and
> > > > 35's I am geared too high for slow trails in
> 1st Lo
> > > > and too low for 1st Lo
> > > > much of the time. I am going to 4.56 this week
> to
> > > > give myself a better 1st
> > > > Hi ratio (and of course - much better true
> crawl).
> > > >
> > > > Jon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 04:21 AM 9/4/2001 +0000, you wrote:
> > > > >But finally got in and the jeep moving.
> Works
> > > > good, but lots of
> > > > >noise in 2nd and up in 4LO; I've heard that
> is
> > > > normal though.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jon Loveless
> > > > (480) 816-6240
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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30641 From: Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 5:45pm
Subject: RE: Re: FW: Off Road Park
Hey! I've been mellow this week. Don't antagonize me.
;)
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: jeepin_in_az@y... [mailto:jeepin_in_az@y...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:19 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: FW: Off Road Park
I think we acctually want the park Chris, not piss them off :-)
Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...> wrote:
> Maybe Scott Kruize?
>
> :-)
>
> Chris K
>
> > From: Mike@A...
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: FW: Off Road Park
> >
> > Dunno, maybe someone with more "Diplomatic Skill" than I have
should
> > call?
> >
> > - Mike
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Baja Fleg" <fleigle@h...> wrote:
> >> Wow they skated by you question pretty well didn't they!! Maybe
we
> > should
> >> start squeaking the wheel more then. Hey Mike you gonna call
that
> > guy?
> >>
> >> Fleg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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30617 From: Keith D. Orr <korr@z...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 2:56pm
Subject: RigRater Score
My score is 642RRv1.0 for my 87 XJ
Casper
87XJ
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30618 From: Scott Thomas <sthomas@a...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 3:02pm
Subject: Transmission Radiator Cooler?
I have a friend that has told me a few times that I need to install a
cooling radiator for my transmission. Does anyone else have one of these on
their Jeeps? What is the benefit of doing this? I have a 97' Tj with a
4.0L and an auto transmission. TIA.
Thanks,
Scott Thomas
97' Tj
30619 From: DesertJeep <joey@j...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 3:12pm
Subject: RE: rate your rig...
I scored:
344RRv1.0
Break-Over Angle (BOA) is 21.40 degrees
But my off road driving skills make up the difference. ;)
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: msa12171@a... [mailto:msa12171@a...]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:42 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] rate your rig...
>
>
> I got this off of JU. Lets see how everyone rates. Who gets the
> highest score. NO CHEATING! I'll tell you mine later...
>
> www.rigrater.com
>
>
> Mike Anderson
>
>
>
>
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30620 From: <sinanturel@y...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 3:12pm
Subject: Re: ANOTHER Emissions test Question
Well me thinks NOX is most likely to be the EGR valve.
Good luck
Sinan
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Matt Wollam" <wooola@h...> wrote:
>
30621 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 3:23pm
Subject: [FS] Hitch & Cargo Rack
Price: $ 100.00
Contact: cbabich@banicki.com
2" frame mount hitch for TJ + hitch receiver cargo rack.
Charlie Babich
30622 From: Dan Siegel <cruzeunit@y...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 3:29pm
Subject: Re: rate your rig...
I got a...
617RRv1.0
(BOA) is 18.92 degrees
I had to guess on the belly mesurement though.
Dan
30623 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 3:33pm
Subject: RE: rate your rig...
905 boa 31.5deg
Kind of interesting site.
Ross
-----Original Message-----
From: msa12171@a... [mailto:msa12171@a...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:42 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] rate your rig...
I got this off of JU. Lets see how everyone rates. Who gets the
highest score. NO CHEATING! I'll tell you mine later...
www.rigrater.com
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30624 From: <Mike@A...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 3:46pm
Subject: Re: TeraLo
If you take your Crawl Ratio and Divide it by the circumference of
your tire you can find out how many times the crankshaft rotates per
inch travelled.
In your case: 99/(35 x 3.14) = .9 Revolutions Per Inch (RPI)
I think most people's ideal crawl speed is about 1 RPI, although some
extreme crawlers want to get to 2 RPI.
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., tom le <tomle_85024@y...> wrote:
> Please note that this formula is independent
> on the tire size although as you know, it is somewhat
> a function of it (e.g., bigger tires will crawl a
> little faster than the smaller tires).
30625 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 4:08pm
Subject: [TR] Broken Arrow - Saturday, September 29, 2001
Hello All,
Dustin Ewald is leading a Broken Arrow trail run on Saturday, September 29, 2001.
When: September 29th or even 30th.
Where: Broken Arrow Near Sedona
Rating: 2.5+
Length: Couple Hours+
CB Channel: 4
Wanting to go to Broken Arrow or possible other 2.5-3.5 trail (just wanna get away from the heat) I am looking for someone other than me to lead this trip, as I have never been to this trail, or even on a trip yet with the AZVJC. So anyone looking to take the lead on this one, it would be awsome.
thanks!
Dustin - 92 XJ
delfindle@aol.com
Broken Arrow is a fun trail with great scenery. A stock Jeep can make this run and there are areas for those with built rigs to test and flex their suspension, such as the Crack. Pay attention to the signs, as part of this trail is a one-way loop.
A lot of Pink Jeeps share the trail so please put your best foot forward while representing our club. For many of the passengers on those Jeep tours, you are the first real off-roader they have ever seen (gosh, that is a scarey thought!) You will find that most of the pink drivers are pretty cool!
The Devil's Staircase is fun, and some members have been known to run it bottom-to-top. If you do, please post a look-out at the top to prevent someone from coming down while you are trying to go up.
It usually takes a couple of hours to make the loop, which allows ample time for pictures and a stop at Chicken Point for lunch (you did bring lunch, didn't you?)
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
30626 From: <ldoctor1957@a...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 0:14pm
Subject: Re: rate your rig...
In a message dated 9/5/01 6:09:17 PM !!!First Boot!!!, msa12171@aol.com
writes:
www.rigrater.com
I got 620 with a BOA of 19.00
Jim Lambertus
30627 From: <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 4:18pm
Subject: Re: FW: Off Road Park
I think we acctually want the park Chris, not piss them off :-)
Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...> wrote:
> Maybe Scott Kruize?
>
> :-)
>
> Chris K
>
> > From: Mike@A...
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: FW: Off Road Park
> >
> > Dunno, maybe someone with more "Diplomatic Skill" than I have
should
> > call?
> >
> > - Mike
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Baja Fleg" <fleigle@h...> wrote:
> >> Wow they skated by you question pretty well didn't they!! Maybe
we
> > should
> >> start squeaking the wheel more then. Hey Mike you gonna call
that
> > guy?
> >>
> >> Fleg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
30628 From: JW <joew@a...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 4:22pm
Subject: RE: rate your rig...
860 with BOA=29.84
Joe West
30629 From: chiena <chiena@e...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 4:17pm
Subject: Re: Slave Cylinder WOAHHSS!!!! revisited again :(
I had the same stinkin problem a year ago. 4 slave cylinder a year. on an 87
with the BA10 puegot. Finally replace the the tranny with a 97 AX15 External
slave cylinder, haven't had a problem since.......
----- Original Message -----
From: "David O'Boyle" <davidoboyle@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 11:02 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Slave Cylinder WOAHHSS!!!! revisited again :(
> Well Gang,
> Yet another Slave cylinder bites the dust.. 4th one in 3 years..
> The most recent on was changed with all MOPAR parts.
> clutch, pressure plate, fluid, slave cylinder.
> Anyone devise a modification to eliminate the hydrolic slave cylinder and
> convert to a regular old throwout bering??? I'd be really interested in
this
> type of setup if any of you FAB guys have devised such a creation.. The
AX15
> is a good tranny but the slave cylinders SUCK!!!
> I have tried every brand and frankly I am sick of tearing out my tranny to
> replace this repeatedly faulty part. So if you or anyone you know has
> modifyed or is in the process of modifying/eliminating this part please
> contact me..
>
> Thanks a bunch
> Dave
> 623-327-1486
>
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30630 From: Scott Legge <scottlegge@h...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 4:36pm
Subject: Re: rate your rig...
381RRv1.0
Your Break-Over Angle (BOA) is 13.97 degrees!
BONE *** STOCK 1972 IH scoutII
Scott Legge
30631 From: Shawn and Michelle <smpassmore@e...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 4:51pm
Subject: rig rater
Ok mine was a wimpy,
" My RigRater Score: 425RRv1.0 with a BOA of 18.94 -- http://www.rigrater.com"
For now!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shawn
jeepcj5nut
30632 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 4:48pm
Subject: RE: rate your rig...
Hey Joe with your Off Road Driving skills it makes us even!
I scored:
344RRv1.0
Break-Over Angle (BOA) is 21.40 degrees
Giant :) at ya!
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JW [mailto:joew@a...]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:23 PM
> To: 'Ross Skinner'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] rate your rig...
>
>
> 860 with BOA=29.84
>
> Joe West
>
>
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30633 From: Bill Mish <yldkat55@h...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 4:52pm
Subject: Re: rate your rig...
1048RRV1.0
BOA 28.26
Bill Mish
1955 Willys CJ3B
----- Original Message -----
From: <msa12171@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:41 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] rate your rig...
> I got this off of JU. Lets see how everyone rates. Who gets the
> highest score. NO CHEATING! I'll tell you mine later...
>
> www.rigrater.com
>
>
> Mike Anderson
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
30634 From: Jake Wagner <jakewagner@y...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 5:03pm
Subject: My Rigrater score
MY TJ scored:
354RRv1.0 with a BOA of 12.57 --
http://www.rigrater.com
Jake
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30635 From: Mark Peterson <stinger75ih@a...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 5:08pm
Subject: Re: rate your rig...
698RRv1.0
Your Break-Over Angle (BOA) is 19.84 degrees!
Slightly modified 75 IH Scout II
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Legge" <scottlegge@h...> wrote:
> 381RRv1.0
> Your Break-Over Angle (BOA) is 13.97 degrees!
>
> BONE *** STOCK 1972 IH scoutII
>
> Scott Legge
30636 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 5:18pm
Subject: Re: SOA Help
Well Guys,
The Wrenching party is off for this weekend, Chris said I should get my springs next week so how does next weekend sound, So far I have a few people that want to help and that is great but none that I have performed a springover, So If you have done one I would really like your help as well, (beer, pizza you name it ) TIA
Scott "Iron" Maiden
01 GSX-R 750....o~`o
http://www.scottmaiden.gixxer.com
bermboy@hotmail.com
>From: "mike"
>To: "Scott Maiden"
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] SOA Help
>Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 11:30:04 -0700
>
>Hey Scott,
>where in the valley are you? I'm slowly getting my CJ7 back together, and the SOA is soon to come... I might be interested in stopping by to watch yours go together.
>
>Michael
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott Maiden
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 1:39 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] SOA Help
>
>
>
>
>
> Well Guys,
> If all goes to plan I will start my soa this weekend(if my springs come in) so I was just wondering if anyone that has done one would like to stop by and lend a hand (or two) I believe I have everything I need right now and have access to a welder etc. just shoot me an email if you want my address or you can just send me some tips, etc. TIA
>
> Scott "Iron" Maiden
> 93 Green YJ (soon to be SOA)
> bermboy@hotmail.com
>
>
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30637 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 5:22pm
Subject: [FS] Wanted: Double Tube chrome bumper w/ hitch
Price:
Contact: Matt Baker: all_stud_99@yahoo.com/or623-975-6311
Matt Baker
30638 From: Ralph Williams <ralphbw@q...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 5:29pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Chivo Falls or Charouleau Gap - Sep 15th
Mike, I think there are some ZJ's doing Chivo Falls on the 15th.
Take a look in the Grand Cherokee Forum at Jeepsunlimited. I saw
them discussing it there.
Ralph
"Chatfield, Mike" wrote:
>
> I'm interested in running either Chivo Falls or Charouleau Gap, Sat, Sep
> 15th.
>
> I know Charouleau Gap has been done twice in the last month, but I had prior
> commitments and couldn't make it. I've run Chivo Falls once, a few years
> ago, but have never done Charouleau Gap. Either way I don't know the route,
> although I'm sure I could find my way across Chivo Falls, if I can find the
> trail head.
>
> Any takers?
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Mike
>
>
>
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30639 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 5:36pm
Subject: RE: Re: rate your rig...
My RigRater Score: 655RRv1.0 with a BOA of 19.94 --
http://www.rigrater.com
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member. "Groucho
Marx"
Member of the original dirty have dozen.
http://stk-yj.alloffroad.com/index.html
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Peterson [mailto:stinger75ih@a...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:08 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: rate your rig...
698RRv1.0
Your Break-Over Angle (BOA) is 19.84 degrees!
Slightly modified 75 IH Scout II
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Legge" <scottlegge@h...> wrote:
> 381RRv1.0
> Your Break-Over Angle (BOA) is 13.97 degrees!
>
> BONE *** STOCK 1972 IH scoutII
>
> Scott Legge
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30640 From: Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 5:43pm
Subject: RE: Re: TeraLo
Tom,
That tranny swap is sounding sweeter.
A 700R4 swap would be (2*3.06*4*4.56)= 111.6:1
An NV4500 swap would be (5.61*4*4.56)= 102.32
I'm currently at (3.88*4*4.56)= 70.7:1
Stock was (3.88*2.72*3.73)= 39.3:1
The NV4500 is a much easier swap to do and has the braking advantage.
More to think about....
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: tom le [mailto:tomle_85024@y...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 2:24 PM
To: Scott Kruize; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: TeraLo
Scott,
Damon is correct and here is my backup details. Since
my '94 ZJ has a 2.71:1 O/I on 1st gear, hence, the CR
= 2*2.71*4*4.56 = 99:1, thanks to an automatic torque
convert. Please note that this formula is independent
on the tire size although as you know, it is somewhat
a function of it (e.g., bigger tires will crawl a
little faster than the smaller tires).
Tom
--- Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...> wrote:
> Thanks to everyone that replied to my torque
> converter crawl ratio
> multiplication question. I'm still debating a 700R4
> swap so the more
> info the better.
>
> Scott
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., Damon Gentile <dgentile@s...>
> wrote:
> > Nature of the torque converter will just about
> double the crawl
> > ratio. A low speed "RV" converter is closer to
> 2.4:1, some of the
> > streetracer converters come close tot 1.5:1.
> >
> >
> > Probably a better explanation than I could come up
> with can be
> > found at :
> http://www.howstuffworks.com/torque-converter.htm
> >
> > If you don't believe this 'multiplication' of
> torque - you should
> > be able to prove it from the flipside. Engine
> braking with an
> > automatic is about half that of a manual...
> > (unless you hotrod the lockup clutch *vbg*)
> >
> > -d
> > Daddy Longlegs wrote:
> > >
> > > Tom,
> > >
> > > What is the first gear ratio on your auto? 3.06
> is a fairly steep
> ratio for
> > > an auto. If we give your auto the benefit of the
> doubt and we use
> that
> > > number your actual crawl ratio in first gear
> might be 56:1. Yes
> the auto
> > > seems to multiply that figure but the REAL ratio
> is still 56:1.
> > >
> > > Jon has a 5 speed so his ratio would actually be
> higher than
> > > yours(3.86*4*4.56)= 70.4:1. But once again the
> torque converter
> seems to
> > > raise the felt ratio compared to his.
> > >
> > > Correct me if I'm missing something here. This
> is all friendly in
> nature :)
> > >
> > > Anybody have any input as to how much the auto
> affects this? I'm
> curious.
> > > Please back up your responses if you can.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: tom le [mailto:tomle_85024@y...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 9:49 AM
> > > To: Jon Loveless; az_vjc@y...
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] TeraLo
> > >
> > > Jon,
> > > That's an excellent decision to go to 4.56s.
> This is
> > > the current setup on ZJ w/ about 100:1 CR (106"
> wb,
> > > 36" SSR, 4.56s, and auto transmission). I've
> > > experienced the same thing on the whine noise at
> > > higher revs on mine and according to Teraflex
> where I
> > > purchased the Teralow4:1, it is normal. Are you
> going
> > > to install the new gears & Teralow all by
> yourself?
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > --- Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...> wrote:
> > > > It is normal. It is chain driven and with the
> low
> > > > gears you tend to get a
> > > > serious whine at higher revs in anything but
> 1st.
> > > > TeraFlex also cautions
> > > > against running your Jeep in higher gears in
> 4low
> > > > for very long due to the
> > > > excessive speed. It sounds bad enough so that
> isn't
> > > > a problem. I just found
> > > > that I have a real gap between 1st Hi and 1st
> Lo.
> > > > With 3.73 gearing and
> > > > 35's I am geared too high for slow trails in
> 1st Lo
> > > > and too low for 1st Lo
> > > > much of the time. I am going to 4.56 this week
> to
> > > > give myself a better 1st
> > > > Hi ratio (and of course - much better true
> crawl).
> > > >
> > > > Jon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 04:21 AM 9/4/2001 +0000, you wrote:
> > > > >But finally got in and the jeep moving.
> Works
> > > > good, but lots of
> > > > >noise in 2nd and up in 4LO; I've heard that
> is
> > > > normal though.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jon Loveless
> > > > (480) 816-6240
> > > >
> > > >
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30641 From: Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2001 5:45pm
Subject: RE: Re: FW: Off Road Park
Hey! I've been mellow this week. Don't antagonize me.
;)
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: jeepin_in_az@y... [mailto:jeepin_in_az@y...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:19 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: FW: Off Road Park
I think we acctually want the park Chris, not piss them off :-)
Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...> wrote:
> Maybe Scott Kruize?
>
> :-)
>
> Chris K
>
> > From: Mike@A...
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: FW: Off Road Park
> >
> > Dunno, maybe someone with more "Diplomatic Skill" than I have
should
> > call?
> >
> > - Mike
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Baja Fleg" <fleigle@h...> wrote:
> >> Wow they skated by you question pretty well didn't they!! Maybe
we
> > should
> >> start squeaking the wheel more then. Hey Mike you gonna call
that
> > guy?
> >>
> >> Fleg
> >
> >
> >
> >
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