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30214 From: T.J. Nosmo-King <ice626@h...>
Date: Tue Aug 28, 2001 11:55pm
Subject: Re: Another Jeep in SERIOUS need of rescue
now theres a mod that not even Joe has come up with (yet)....... ;0)
TJ Gill
75 CJ5
327/TH350
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30215 From: Aaron <scoopman_2000@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 0:19am
Subject: RE: wobble
First, is it a wobble or is it a vibration? Do you have a slip yoke
eliminator and CV drive shaft? If not, is your transfer case lowered? That
would account for some vibes. As far as a wobble, caster angle and alignment
would be my first concerns. Since you have a 4.5" lift, I'm assuming it is
an RE kit. If so, if I'm not mistaken and I'm sure that everyone will
correct me if I am ;-), it should have adjustable lower control arms. You
could try lengthening the arms a little and see if that works. If they are
not adjustable, you can buy shims at any Jeep dealer. I replaced my
steering stabilizer when I lifted mine, cost about $35 if I remember
correctly, the cost of a shock and a special tapered bolt that fastens onto
the drag link. Takes approximately about 10 minutes to install. Never
really noticed whether it stopped any wobble on the road though, my problem
was having more to do with the alignment and caster angles. It does get rid
of the bump steer a little though. Hope that helps.
Aaron
99TJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly McCormick [mailto:fxyjeep@h...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 10:40 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] wobble
I have a 97 TJ with 4.5 " lift, that at lower speeds and sometimes when I'm
doing about 60 I can feel this vibration on the clutch and gas pedal and
pretty much throughout the whole jeep, My buddy Mike thinks I might need a
new steering stabalizer. Right now I have just the stock one on there. I
don't know if it has anything to do with the amount of lift I have on it, or
what it might be. If I do need a new stabalizer how much do they run and how
hard are they to put on? Any help would be greatly appreciated.:)
Thanks Kelly
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30219 From: AJ & Beth Card <ArizonaOutlaws@w...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 5:54am
Subject: Colorado Site
Hi All,
We're heading up to Silverton in a week. Came across this site:
http://www.divsoft.com/xterra/journal.html
It has some pretty good pictures even if he is driving an Exterra. We can't wait to get up there...
AJ & Beth Card
30220 From: Randall A. Mutter <ramaz@h...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 7:19am
Subject: 95 XJ 4.0 Shuts off then comes back
Morning All
I was looking for some input. I have a 95 XJ with a 4.0 automatic, in the last week it started just shutting off while I am driving. Sometimes it comes right back to life other times I need to restart it. Usually does it while driving once in a while it does at idle.
Checked the trouble code got a 11 and a 12 one is that the battery was disconnected in the last 50 key turns (but it was not) the other is no signal from the CPS. Checked the CPS it seems to check fine.
Any other ideas?
Thanks, RAM
Randall A. Mutter
ramaz@home.com
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30221 From: Scott Thomas <sthomas@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 7:33am
Subject: Night Run @ Box Canyon on Saturday Night?
I am in need to try out my new rocker guard that I installed over the weekend and my girlfriend has been bugging me to take her out wheeling again. I was thinking of running Box Canyon on saturday night and I was wondering if there was anyone else who was interested. I guess that's the question. Is there anyone who interested in doing a night run through Box Canyon?
Scott Thomas
97' Tj
30222 From: DesertJeep <joey@j...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 7:33am
Subject: RE: 95 XJ 4.0 Shuts off then comes back
Check your wiring. You may have an open wire or more dangerous a shorting wire. Make sure all the fuses are seated good. I suspect the short would be either near the battery or near the computer. Water on the computer connector could cause this fault as well.
At least that is what I would check.
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Randall A. Mutter [mailto:ramaz@home.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 7:19 AM
To: Azvjc
Subject: [az_vjc] 95 XJ 4.0 Shuts off then comes back
Morning All
I was looking for some input. I have a 95 XJ with a 4.0 automatic, in the last week it started just shutting off while I am driving. Sometimes it comes right back to life other times I need to restart it. Usually does it while driving once in a while it does at idle.
Checked the trouble code got a 11 and a 12 one is that the battery was disconnected in the last 50 key turns (but it was not) the other is no signal from the CPS. Checked the CPS it seems to check fine.
Any other ideas?
Thanks, RAM
Randall A. Mutter
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30223 From: Brent Lizakowski <brent_lizakowski@h...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 7:59am
Subject: Tucson Runs This Weekend?
Anyone in the Tucson area going wheeling sometime this weekend?
Let me know. It's been a while since I've been out.
Brent
30224 From: <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 8:21am
Subject: Re: Night Run @ Box Canyon on Saturday Night?
I could do box canyon! I never got to go out to any of the runs in
Florence the other weekend, so I'll go! -Rob
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Thomas" <sthomas@a...> wrote:
> I am in need to try out my new rocker guard that I installed over
the
> weekend and my girlfriend has been bugging me to take her out
wheeling
> again. I was thinking of running Box Canyon on saturday night and
I was
> wondering if there was anyone else who was interested. I guess
that's the
> question. Is there anyone who interested in doing a night run
through Box
> Canyon?
>
> Scott Thomas
> 97' Tj
30225 From: <azjeepnut@w...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 8:30am
Subject: Re: Tucson Runs This Weekend?
Yeah, me too! Hopefully a day other than Saturday...
--
Matt B.
94 YJ
93 XJ
http://azjeeps.offroadhq.net
Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
> Anyone in the Tucson area going wheeling sometime this weekend?
>
> Let me know. It's been a while since I've been out.
>
> Brent
>
>
>
>
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>
>
30226 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 8:31am
Subject: [FS] 5 Factory Canyon Wheels and Tires
Price: $450 obo
Contact: coxy8@yahoo.com
These are the factory Canyon Wheels and 30x9.5 tires. The tires have only 15,000 miles on them with a never used spare. The wheels are in great shape as well. I am willing to "wheel" and deal so to speak! These are a set of 5 wheels and tires that are in terrific shape with a lot tread left.
Jeff Cox
30227 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 8:49am
Subject: RE: wobble
Kelly,
Before you go replacing steering stabilizers, are you certain the problem is
steering related?
From reading your description, it could be a driveshaft vibration problem or
even a tire balance problem. There is nothing in your comments that rules
out any of these potential vibration sources.
However....I think some more info about yoru 4.5" lift would be helpful.
Such as...are you running a CV driveshaft and SYE or a t-case drop kit.
What size tires are you running? When did the lift go on? How long have
you noticed this vibration? Did you have a front end alignment done after
the lift was installed?
I'll probably think of something else to ask, but these will certainly help.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly McCormick [mailto:fxyjeep@h...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 10:40 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] wobble
I have a 97 TJ with 4.5 " lift, that at lower speeds and sometimes when I'm
doing about 60 I can feel this vibration on the clutch and gas pedal and
pretty much throughout the whole jeep, My buddy Mike thinks I might need a
new steering stabalizer. Right now I have just the stock one on there. I
don't know if it has anything to do with the amount of lift I have on it, or
what it might be. If I do need a new stabalizer how much do they run and how
hard are they to put on? Any help would be greatly appreciated.:)
Thanks Kelly
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30228 From: <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 8:53am
Subject: Cherokee Question
I saw an old Cherokee that looked like an old Wagoneer, anyone know
anything about these old Cherokees? I really like the way they look,
does anyone out there have one? I'm not sure what year it was...
guessing 70s?? Anyway lemme know if you have any info... thanks!! -Rob
30229 From: <Mike@A...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 8:55am
Subject: Re: TUBING?
Anyone know of someplace on the West Side of town?
Thanks,
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Siade, Randy" <randy.siade@u...> wrote:
> American metals on Broadway and Alma School or Jan's Iron & Metal on
> Southern and Center.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Legge [mailto:scottlegge@h...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 6:30 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] TUBING?
>
30230 From: Scott Thomas <sthomas@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 9:03am
Subject: RE: wobble
You know Kelly,
Now that Stu has said that it made me think. I just had a wobble problem
also and went and had my tires rebalanced think that it would go away and it
didn't. But my air pressure was different by like 10 psi in two of my
tires. As soon as I fixed that I was fine.
Scott Thomas
97' Tj
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:49 AM
To: Kelly McCormick; az_vjc
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] wobble
Kelly,
Before you go replacing steering stabilizers, are you certain the problem is
steering related?
From reading your description, it could be a driveshaft vibration problem or
even a tire balance problem. There is nothing in your comments that rules
out any of these potential vibration sources.
However....I think some more info about yoru 4.5" lift would be helpful.
Such as...are you running a CV driveshaft and SYE or a t-case drop kit.
What size tires are you running? When did the lift go on? How long have
you noticed this vibration? Did you have a front end alignment done after
the lift was installed?
I'll probably think of something else to ask, but these will certainly help.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly McCormick [mailto:fxyjeep@h...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 10:40 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] wobble
I have a 97 TJ with 4.5 " lift, that at lower speeds and sometimes when I'm
doing about 60 I can feel this vibration on the clutch and gas pedal and
pretty much throughout the whole jeep, My buddy Mike thinks I might need a
new steering stabalizer. Right now I have just the stock one on there. I
don't know if it has anything to do with the amount of lift I have on it, or
what it might be. If I do need a new stabalizer how much do they run and how
hard are they to put on? Any help would be greatly appreciated.:)
Thanks Kelly
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30231 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 9:03am
Subject: Re: wobble
I would definately start thinking driveshaft vibes before steering
stabilizer, especially (but not exclusively) that you can feel it
through the whole jeep.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> Kelly,
>
> Before you go replacing steering stabilizers, are you certain the
problem is
> steering related?
>
> From reading your description, it could be a driveshaft vibration
problem or
> even a tire balance problem. There is nothing in your comments
that rules
> out any of these potential vibration sources.
>
> However....I think some more info about yoru 4.5" lift would be
helpful.
> Such as...are you running a CV driveshaft and SYE or a t-case drop
kit.
> What size tires are you running? When did the lift go on? How
long have
> you noticed this vibration? Did you have a front end alignment
done after
> the lift was installed?
>
> I'll probably think of something else to ask, but these will
certainly help.
>
> Stu
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kelly McCormick [mailto:fxyjeep@h...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 10:40 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] wobble
>
>
> I have a 97 TJ with 4.5 " lift, that at lower speeds and sometimes
when I'm
> doing about 60 I can feel this vibration on the clutch and gas
pedal and
> pretty much throughout the whole jeep, My buddy Mike thinks I might
need a
> new steering stabalizer. Right now I have just the stock one on
there. I
> don't know if it has anything to do with the amount of lift I have
on it, or
> what it might be. If I do need a new stabalizer how much do they
run and how
> hard are they to put on? Any help would be greatly appreciated.:)
> Thanks Kelly
>
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30232 From: Blake Van de Loo <blake@m...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 9:04am
Subject: RE: Re: TUBING?
Glendale Steel
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike@A... [mailto:Mike@A...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:56 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: TUBING?
Anyone know of someplace on the West Side of town?
Thanks,
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Siade, Randy" <randy.siade@u...> wrote:
> American metals on Broadway and Alma School or Jan's Iron & Metal on
> Southern and Center.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Legge [mailto:scottlegge@h...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 6:30 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] TUBING?
>
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30233 From: Blair <blairb20@h...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 9:36am
Subject: Re: Re: Night Run @ Box Canyon on Saturday Night?
----- Original Message -----
From: <g_rob_williams@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:21 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Night Run @ Box Canyon on Saturday Night?
> I could do box canyon! I never got to go out to any of the runs in
> Florence the other weekend, so I'll go! -Rob
>
>
What rating is Box Canyon? If it's not too bad, I'll run it with you guys.
-B
30234 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 9:47am
Subject: Re: Re: TUBING?
There's a place called Interstate Steel on Hatcher a bit east of
19th Ave. I don't know if they have the requested tubing - you'd
have to check with them.
-Roger
Mike@A... wrote:
>
> Anyone know of someplace on the West Side of town?
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Mike
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Siade, Randy" <randy.siade@u...> wrote:
> > American metals on Broadway and Alma School or Jan's Iron & Metal on
> > Southern and Center.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Legge [mailto:scottlegge@h...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 6:30 PM
> > To: az_vjc@y...
> > Subject: [az_vjc] TUBING?
30235 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 9:52am
Subject: Problems with front end
I got one for you....
Friend has a TJ, with a Full Traction 4 inch lift, new NON-adjustable LCA,
dropped pitman arm, t-case lowered, new adjustable front track bar, and
swaybar QD's. He is running 33x12.50's on a 15x8's.
Here is the problem: when he hits a bump, it makes his steering wheel go
off center, and he hears a whack noise in the front passengers side. This
noise is new since his first track bar from Full Traction broke at the
axle end, and we replaced it with the new one, same brand. Things I can
think of what is causing the noise, loose shock, loose track bar (he says
it is tight), coil turned and is hitting the axle, LCA on that side is not
in the little groove. What else would cause that noise? Also, what would
cause the steering wheel to turn out of center? Here is another thought,
could the hole on the frame side be hollowing out?
Mike Baney
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30236 From: <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 10:09am
Subject: Re: Night Run @ Box Canyon on Saturday Night?
Hey Box Canyon is a 3.0 you can make it with your spacer lift and
31s -Rob
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Blair" <blairb20@h...> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <g_rob_williams@y...>
> To: <az_vjc@y...>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:21 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Night Run @ Box Canyon on Saturday Night?
>
>
> > I could do box canyon! I never got to go out to any of the runs
in
> > Florence the other weekend, so I'll go! -Rob
> >
> >
>
> What rating is Box Canyon? If it's not too bad, I'll run it with
you guys.
>
> -B
30237 From: tom lafrance <tlafrance@j...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 10:14am
Subject: recovery strap choice
It's time to start adding equipment.........
I see recovery straps in 20ft and 30 ft with widths of 2inch or 3inch.
What's the most popular/useful strap to have for trail use?
TIA,
Tom
30238 From: <msa12171@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 10:27am
Subject: Re: wobble
She has RE springs and upper rear arms, Tera lower arms, CV/SYE, 36"
Swampers, RE front adj trackbar, rear relocator, drop pitman arm,
and RS9000 shocks (I helped with all the mods) all done about 6
months ago. Good point about driveshaft vibes. My front CV went bad
and gave noise and some vibes. I'll let her know to check for play
in the front CV joint. She also needs to check alignment and toe
again. Other than that, with the stock steering stabilizer, she
should prob. get a new one anyway. Any other ideas??? Thanks for
the help. BTW, Kelly, if you don't get it figured out, just park
it 'til I come up there for New Years. :)
Mike
30239 From: Chatfield, Mike <Mike@A...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 10:29am
Subject: FW: Cherokee Question
-----Original Message-----
From: jeeperaz@b... [mailto:jeeperaz@b...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:18 AM
To: az_vjc-owner@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Cherokee Question
I want one bad! Have a look here...
http://www.ifsja.org/readers/cherokees/index.shtml
Go down about 6 or 7 jeeps and you will see Geaorge Andrews Cherokee.
He is a fellow club member and has one bad *** FSJ.
A guy at work just bought a Wagoneer and put on a lift and some
tires... they look pretty tough with some minimal mods.
--- In az_vjc@y..., g_rob_williams@y... wrote:
> I saw an old Cherokee that looked like an old Wagoneer, anyone know
> anything about these old Cherokees? I really like the way they
look,
> does anyone out there have one? I'm not sure what year it was...
> guessing 70s?? Anyway lemme know if you have any info... thanks!! -
Rob
30240 From: Daddy Longlegs <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 10:32am
Subject: RE: Problems with front end
Mike,
Sounds like he has some bumpsteer issues. Check and make sure his draglink
is parallel to his trackbar. If there is any difference in this geometry
bumpsteer will occur.
He could also have a damaged tie rod end and/or bent tie rod or draglink.
If there's a noise my first guess is that the trackbar is loose at the axle
end. The bracket down there is really flimsy and sometimes the hole becomes
enlarged making it impossible to get a snug fit. I replaced the torx bolt on
mine with a metric hex head bolt and tack welded a washer over the hole on
the bracket to eliminate slop.
These are just the experiences I've had with mine over the last 2.5 years.
I'm sure others will have more suggestions.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Baney [mailto:jeepin_in_az@y...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 9:53 AM
To: Jeep List
Subject: [az_vjc] Problems with front end
I got one for you....
Friend has a TJ, with a Full Traction 4 inch lift, new NON-adjustable LCA,
dropped pitman arm, t-case lowered, new adjustable front track bar, and
swaybar QD's. He is running 33x12.50's on a 15x8's.
Here is the problem: when he hits a bump, it makes his steering wheel go
off center, and he hears a whack noise in the front passengers side. This
noise is new since his first track bar from Full Traction broke at the
axle end, and we replaced it with the new one, same brand. Things I can
think of what is causing the noise, loose shock, loose track bar (he says
it is tight), coil turned and is hitting the axle, LCA on that side is not
in the little groove. What else would cause that noise? Also, what would
cause the steering wheel to turn out of center? Here is another thought,
could the hole on the frame side be hollowing out?
Mike Baney
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30241 From: Daddy Longlegs <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 10:34am
Subject: RE: recovery strap choice
Tom,
I prefer to carry a 2"x30' 20000# recovery strap. I've replaced a few of
these over the years once they appeared worn but never had one fail in a
critical situation. 20' usually seemed too short for recovery.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: tom lafrance [mailto:tlafrance@j...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:15 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] recovery strap choice
It's time to start adding equipment.........
I see recovery straps in 20ft and 30 ft with widths of 2inch or 3inch.
What's the most popular/useful strap to have for trail use?
TIA,
Tom
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30214 From: T.J. Nosmo-King <ice626@h...>
Date: Tue Aug 28, 2001 11:55pm
Subject: Re: Another Jeep in SERIOUS need of rescue
now theres a mod that not even Joe has come up with (yet)....... ;0)
TJ Gill
75 CJ5
327/TH350
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30215 From: Aaron <scoopman_2000@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 0:19am
Subject: RE: wobble
First, is it a wobble or is it a vibration? Do you have a slip yoke
eliminator and CV drive shaft? If not, is your transfer case lowered? That
would account for some vibes. As far as a wobble, caster angle and alignment
would be my first concerns. Since you have a 4.5" lift, I'm assuming it is
an RE kit. If so, if I'm not mistaken and I'm sure that everyone will
correct me if I am ;-), it should have adjustable lower control arms. You
could try lengthening the arms a little and see if that works. If they are
not adjustable, you can buy shims at any Jeep dealer. I replaced my
steering stabilizer when I lifted mine, cost about $35 if I remember
correctly, the cost of a shock and a special tapered bolt that fastens onto
the drag link. Takes approximately about 10 minutes to install. Never
really noticed whether it stopped any wobble on the road though, my problem
was having more to do with the alignment and caster angles. It does get rid
of the bump steer a little though. Hope that helps.
Aaron
99TJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly McCormick [mailto:fxyjeep@h...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 10:40 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] wobble
I have a 97 TJ with 4.5 " lift, that at lower speeds and sometimes when I'm
doing about 60 I can feel this vibration on the clutch and gas pedal and
pretty much throughout the whole jeep, My buddy Mike thinks I might need a
new steering stabalizer. Right now I have just the stock one on there. I
don't know if it has anything to do with the amount of lift I have on it, or
what it might be. If I do need a new stabalizer how much do they run and how
hard are they to put on? Any help would be greatly appreciated.:)
Thanks Kelly
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30219 From: AJ & Beth Card <ArizonaOutlaws@w...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 5:54am
Subject: Colorado Site
Hi All,
We're heading up to Silverton in a week. Came across this site:
http://www.divsoft.com/xterra/journal.html
It has some pretty good pictures even if he is driving an Exterra. We can't wait to get up there...
AJ & Beth Card
30220 From: Randall A. Mutter <ramaz@h...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 7:19am
Subject: 95 XJ 4.0 Shuts off then comes back
Morning All
I was looking for some input. I have a 95 XJ with a 4.0 automatic, in the last week it started just shutting off while I am driving. Sometimes it comes right back to life other times I need to restart it. Usually does it while driving once in a while it does at idle.
Checked the trouble code got a 11 and a 12 one is that the battery was disconnected in the last 50 key turns (but it was not) the other is no signal from the CPS. Checked the CPS it seems to check fine.
Any other ideas?
Thanks, RAM
Randall A. Mutter
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30221 From: Scott Thomas <sthomas@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 7:33am
Subject: Night Run @ Box Canyon on Saturday Night?
I am in need to try out my new rocker guard that I installed over the weekend and my girlfriend has been bugging me to take her out wheeling again. I was thinking of running Box Canyon on saturday night and I was wondering if there was anyone else who was interested. I guess that's the question. Is there anyone who interested in doing a night run through Box Canyon?
Scott Thomas
97' Tj
30222 From: DesertJeep <joey@j...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 7:33am
Subject: RE: 95 XJ 4.0 Shuts off then comes back
Check your wiring. You may have an open wire or more dangerous a shorting wire. Make sure all the fuses are seated good. I suspect the short would be either near the battery or near the computer. Water on the computer connector could cause this fault as well.
At least that is what I would check.
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Randall A. Mutter [mailto:ramaz@home.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 7:19 AM
To: Azvjc
Subject: [az_vjc] 95 XJ 4.0 Shuts off then comes back
Morning All
I was looking for some input. I have a 95 XJ with a 4.0 automatic, in the last week it started just shutting off while I am driving. Sometimes it comes right back to life other times I need to restart it. Usually does it while driving once in a while it does at idle.
Checked the trouble code got a 11 and a 12 one is that the battery was disconnected in the last 50 key turns (but it was not) the other is no signal from the CPS. Checked the CPS it seems to check fine.
Any other ideas?
Thanks, RAM
Randall A. Mutter
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30223 From: Brent Lizakowski <brent_lizakowski@h...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 7:59am
Subject: Tucson Runs This Weekend?
Anyone in the Tucson area going wheeling sometime this weekend?
Let me know. It's been a while since I've been out.
Brent
30224 From: <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 8:21am
Subject: Re: Night Run @ Box Canyon on Saturday Night?
I could do box canyon! I never got to go out to any of the runs in
Florence the other weekend, so I'll go! -Rob
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Thomas" <sthomas@a...> wrote:
> I am in need to try out my new rocker guard that I installed over
the
> weekend and my girlfriend has been bugging me to take her out
wheeling
> again. I was thinking of running Box Canyon on saturday night and
I was
> wondering if there was anyone else who was interested. I guess
that's the
> question. Is there anyone who interested in doing a night run
through Box
> Canyon?
>
> Scott Thomas
> 97' Tj
30225 From: <azjeepnut@w...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 8:30am
Subject: Re: Tucson Runs This Weekend?
Yeah, me too! Hopefully a day other than Saturday...
--
Matt B.
94 YJ
93 XJ
http://azjeeps.offroadhq.net
Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
> Anyone in the Tucson area going wheeling sometime this weekend?
>
> Let me know. It's been a while since I've been out.
>
> Brent
>
>
>
>
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30226 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 8:31am
Subject: [FS] 5 Factory Canyon Wheels and Tires
Price: $450 obo
Contact: coxy8@yahoo.com
These are the factory Canyon Wheels and 30x9.5 tires. The tires have only 15,000 miles on them with a never used spare. The wheels are in great shape as well. I am willing to "wheel" and deal so to speak! These are a set of 5 wheels and tires that are in terrific shape with a lot tread left.
Jeff Cox
30227 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 8:49am
Subject: RE: wobble
Kelly,
Before you go replacing steering stabilizers, are you certain the problem is
steering related?
From reading your description, it could be a driveshaft vibration problem or
even a tire balance problem. There is nothing in your comments that rules
out any of these potential vibration sources.
However....I think some more info about yoru 4.5" lift would be helpful.
Such as...are you running a CV driveshaft and SYE or a t-case drop kit.
What size tires are you running? When did the lift go on? How long have
you noticed this vibration? Did you have a front end alignment done after
the lift was installed?
I'll probably think of something else to ask, but these will certainly help.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly McCormick [mailto:fxyjeep@h...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 10:40 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] wobble
I have a 97 TJ with 4.5 " lift, that at lower speeds and sometimes when I'm
doing about 60 I can feel this vibration on the clutch and gas pedal and
pretty much throughout the whole jeep, My buddy Mike thinks I might need a
new steering stabalizer. Right now I have just the stock one on there. I
don't know if it has anything to do with the amount of lift I have on it, or
what it might be. If I do need a new stabalizer how much do they run and how
hard are they to put on? Any help would be greatly appreciated.:)
Thanks Kelly
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30228 From: <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 8:53am
Subject: Cherokee Question
I saw an old Cherokee that looked like an old Wagoneer, anyone know
anything about these old Cherokees? I really like the way they look,
does anyone out there have one? I'm not sure what year it was...
guessing 70s?? Anyway lemme know if you have any info... thanks!! -Rob
30229 From: <Mike@A...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 8:55am
Subject: Re: TUBING?
Anyone know of someplace on the West Side of town?
Thanks,
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Siade, Randy" <randy.siade@u...> wrote:
> American metals on Broadway and Alma School or Jan's Iron & Metal on
> Southern and Center.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Legge [mailto:scottlegge@h...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 6:30 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] TUBING?
>
30230 From: Scott Thomas <sthomas@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 9:03am
Subject: RE: wobble
You know Kelly,
Now that Stu has said that it made me think. I just had a wobble problem
also and went and had my tires rebalanced think that it would go away and it
didn't. But my air pressure was different by like 10 psi in two of my
tires. As soon as I fixed that I was fine.
Scott Thomas
97' Tj
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:49 AM
To: Kelly McCormick; az_vjc
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] wobble
Kelly,
Before you go replacing steering stabilizers, are you certain the problem is
steering related?
From reading your description, it could be a driveshaft vibration problem or
even a tire balance problem. There is nothing in your comments that rules
out any of these potential vibration sources.
However....I think some more info about yoru 4.5" lift would be helpful.
Such as...are you running a CV driveshaft and SYE or a t-case drop kit.
What size tires are you running? When did the lift go on? How long have
you noticed this vibration? Did you have a front end alignment done after
the lift was installed?
I'll probably think of something else to ask, but these will certainly help.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly McCormick [mailto:fxyjeep@h...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 10:40 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] wobble
I have a 97 TJ with 4.5 " lift, that at lower speeds and sometimes when I'm
doing about 60 I can feel this vibration on the clutch and gas pedal and
pretty much throughout the whole jeep, My buddy Mike thinks I might need a
new steering stabalizer. Right now I have just the stock one on there. I
don't know if it has anything to do with the amount of lift I have on it, or
what it might be. If I do need a new stabalizer how much do they run and how
hard are they to put on? Any help would be greatly appreciated.:)
Thanks Kelly
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30231 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 9:03am
Subject: Re: wobble
I would definately start thinking driveshaft vibes before steering
stabilizer, especially (but not exclusively) that you can feel it
through the whole jeep.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> Kelly,
>
> Before you go replacing steering stabilizers, are you certain the
problem is
> steering related?
>
> From reading your description, it could be a driveshaft vibration
problem or
> even a tire balance problem. There is nothing in your comments
that rules
> out any of these potential vibration sources.
>
> However....I think some more info about yoru 4.5" lift would be
helpful.
> Such as...are you running a CV driveshaft and SYE or a t-case drop
kit.
> What size tires are you running? When did the lift go on? How
long have
> you noticed this vibration? Did you have a front end alignment
done after
> the lift was installed?
>
> I'll probably think of something else to ask, but these will
certainly help.
>
> Stu
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kelly McCormick [mailto:fxyjeep@h...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 10:40 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] wobble
>
>
> I have a 97 TJ with 4.5 " lift, that at lower speeds and sometimes
when I'm
> doing about 60 I can feel this vibration on the clutch and gas
pedal and
> pretty much throughout the whole jeep, My buddy Mike thinks I might
need a
> new steering stabalizer. Right now I have just the stock one on
there. I
> don't know if it has anything to do with the amount of lift I have
on it, or
> what it might be. If I do need a new stabalizer how much do they
run and how
> hard are they to put on? Any help would be greatly appreciated.:)
> Thanks Kelly
>
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30232 From: Blake Van de Loo <blake@m...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 9:04am
Subject: RE: Re: TUBING?
Glendale Steel
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike@A... [mailto:Mike@A...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:56 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: TUBING?
Anyone know of someplace on the West Side of town?
Thanks,
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Siade, Randy" <randy.siade@u...> wrote:
> American metals on Broadway and Alma School or Jan's Iron & Metal on
> Southern and Center.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Legge [mailto:scottlegge@h...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 6:30 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] TUBING?
>
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30233 From: Blair <blairb20@h...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 9:36am
Subject: Re: Re: Night Run @ Box Canyon on Saturday Night?
----- Original Message -----
From: <g_rob_williams@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:21 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Night Run @ Box Canyon on Saturday Night?
> I could do box canyon! I never got to go out to any of the runs in
> Florence the other weekend, so I'll go! -Rob
>
>
What rating is Box Canyon? If it's not too bad, I'll run it with you guys.
-B
30234 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 9:47am
Subject: Re: Re: TUBING?
There's a place called Interstate Steel on Hatcher a bit east of
19th Ave. I don't know if they have the requested tubing - you'd
have to check with them.
-Roger
Mike@A... wrote:
>
> Anyone know of someplace on the West Side of town?
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Mike
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Siade, Randy" <randy.siade@u...> wrote:
> > American metals on Broadway and Alma School or Jan's Iron & Metal on
> > Southern and Center.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Legge [mailto:scottlegge@h...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 6:30 PM
> > To: az_vjc@y...
> > Subject: [az_vjc] TUBING?
30235 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 9:52am
Subject: Problems with front end
I got one for you....
Friend has a TJ, with a Full Traction 4 inch lift, new NON-adjustable LCA,
dropped pitman arm, t-case lowered, new adjustable front track bar, and
swaybar QD's. He is running 33x12.50's on a 15x8's.
Here is the problem: when he hits a bump, it makes his steering wheel go
off center, and he hears a whack noise in the front passengers side. This
noise is new since his first track bar from Full Traction broke at the
axle end, and we replaced it with the new one, same brand. Things I can
think of what is causing the noise, loose shock, loose track bar (he says
it is tight), coil turned and is hitting the axle, LCA on that side is not
in the little groove. What else would cause that noise? Also, what would
cause the steering wheel to turn out of center? Here is another thought,
could the hole on the frame side be hollowing out?
Mike Baney
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30236 From: <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 10:09am
Subject: Re: Night Run @ Box Canyon on Saturday Night?
Hey Box Canyon is a 3.0 you can make it with your spacer lift and
31s -Rob
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Blair" <blairb20@h...> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <g_rob_williams@y...>
> To: <az_vjc@y...>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:21 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Night Run @ Box Canyon on Saturday Night?
>
>
> > I could do box canyon! I never got to go out to any of the runs
in
> > Florence the other weekend, so I'll go! -Rob
> >
> >
>
> What rating is Box Canyon? If it's not too bad, I'll run it with
you guys.
>
> -B
30237 From: tom lafrance <tlafrance@j...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 10:14am
Subject: recovery strap choice
It's time to start adding equipment.........
I see recovery straps in 20ft and 30 ft with widths of 2inch or 3inch.
What's the most popular/useful strap to have for trail use?
TIA,
Tom
30238 From: <msa12171@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 10:27am
Subject: Re: wobble
She has RE springs and upper rear arms, Tera lower arms, CV/SYE, 36"
Swampers, RE front adj trackbar, rear relocator, drop pitman arm,
and RS9000 shocks (I helped with all the mods) all done about 6
months ago. Good point about driveshaft vibes. My front CV went bad
and gave noise and some vibes. I'll let her know to check for play
in the front CV joint. She also needs to check alignment and toe
again. Other than that, with the stock steering stabilizer, she
should prob. get a new one anyway. Any other ideas??? Thanks for
the help. BTW, Kelly, if you don't get it figured out, just park
it 'til I come up there for New Years. :)
Mike
30239 From: Chatfield, Mike <Mike@A...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 10:29am
Subject: FW: Cherokee Question
-----Original Message-----
From: jeeperaz@b... [mailto:jeeperaz@b...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:18 AM
To: az_vjc-owner@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Cherokee Question
I want one bad! Have a look here...
http://www.ifsja.org/readers/cherokees/index.shtml
Go down about 6 or 7 jeeps and you will see Geaorge Andrews Cherokee.
He is a fellow club member and has one bad *** FSJ.
A guy at work just bought a Wagoneer and put on a lift and some
tires... they look pretty tough with some minimal mods.
--- In az_vjc@y..., g_rob_williams@y... wrote:
> I saw an old Cherokee that looked like an old Wagoneer, anyone know
> anything about these old Cherokees? I really like the way they
look,
> does anyone out there have one? I'm not sure what year it was...
> guessing 70s?? Anyway lemme know if you have any info... thanks!! -
Rob
30240 From: Daddy Longlegs <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 10:32am
Subject: RE: Problems with front end
Mike,
Sounds like he has some bumpsteer issues. Check and make sure his draglink
is parallel to his trackbar. If there is any difference in this geometry
bumpsteer will occur.
He could also have a damaged tie rod end and/or bent tie rod or draglink.
If there's a noise my first guess is that the trackbar is loose at the axle
end. The bracket down there is really flimsy and sometimes the hole becomes
enlarged making it impossible to get a snug fit. I replaced the torx bolt on
mine with a metric hex head bolt and tack welded a washer over the hole on
the bracket to eliminate slop.
These are just the experiences I've had with mine over the last 2.5 years.
I'm sure others will have more suggestions.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Baney [mailto:jeepin_in_az@y...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 9:53 AM
To: Jeep List
Subject: [az_vjc] Problems with front end
I got one for you....
Friend has a TJ, with a Full Traction 4 inch lift, new NON-adjustable LCA,
dropped pitman arm, t-case lowered, new adjustable front track bar, and
swaybar QD's. He is running 33x12.50's on a 15x8's.
Here is the problem: when he hits a bump, it makes his steering wheel go
off center, and he hears a whack noise in the front passengers side. This
noise is new since his first track bar from Full Traction broke at the
axle end, and we replaced it with the new one, same brand. Things I can
think of what is causing the noise, loose shock, loose track bar (he says
it is tight), coil turned and is hitting the axle, LCA on that side is not
in the little groove. What else would cause that noise? Also, what would
cause the steering wheel to turn out of center? Here is another thought,
could the hole on the frame side be hollowing out?
Mike Baney
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30241 From: Daddy Longlegs <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Wed Aug 29, 2001 10:34am
Subject: RE: recovery strap choice
Tom,
I prefer to carry a 2"x30' 20000# recovery strap. I've replaced a few of
these over the years once they appeared worn but never had one fail in a
critical situation. 20' usually seemed too short for recovery.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: tom lafrance [mailto:tlafrance@j...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:15 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] recovery strap choice
It's time to start adding equipment.........
I see recovery straps in 20ft and 30 ft with widths of 2inch or 3inch.
What's the most popular/useful strap to have for trail use?
TIA,
Tom
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