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30114 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 3:03pm
Subject: Re: HP for 2.5L
Horsepower...2.5L...I don't think I've ever seen those two used in
the same sentence...:)
I think Chris R. has the most mods on a 2.5L that I know of, he would
be a good reference person.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Eddie Nordstrom" <Kilr650@a...> wrote:
> I am looking for ways to increase the HP on my '98 TJ SE 2.5L
engine. I am really interested in the Turbo City throttle body mod.
Anyone running this? I am more concerned about geeting extra power
for when its on pavement but do not want a mod that will hinder trail
performance. I want good throttle response and low to mid rpm power.
i already have 31" tires with 4.56 gears and less restrictive cat
back exh. I don't know the brand of the exh. which was put on by
previous owner. Everything else is stock.
>
> TIA
>
> Eddie Nordstrom
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30115 From: Chatfield, Mike <Mike@A...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 3:13pm
Subject: FW: Publicity
More Info:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert G. Willis [mailto:rwilli12@p...]
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:32 PM
> To: Chatfield, Mike
> Cc: Ken Coon
> Subject: RE: New Virtual Jeep Club
>
> Sounds like you guys are having a great time. There are allot of clubs
> looking for new trails and there are allot of people looking for clubs.
> AZOD has become a focal point for Hunting, fishing and camping in the
> state and we would like to include offroad. Most of the articles are
> written by our readers but each section has an editor or expert to help.
> All articles are rather short and to the point. We can help rewrite if
> anyone is interested. AZOD has also developed some great contacts with
> Local TV, News Papers and Radio so we can help to get the word out about
> an event, like your cleanup efforts. We are a focal point for outdoor
> activities in Arizona and we would like to include Offroad activities. We
> have our new section up and running and will be loading material over the
> next few days. We'd love to post some of your tips, article ect... and you
> will be give full credit. With over 1200 people visiting us each day you
> can't go wrong.
>
> Thanks for the reply and the consideration
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chatfield, Mike [mailto:Mike.Chatfield@p...]
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 12:33 PM
> To: 'rwilli12@p...'
> Subject: RE: New Virtual Jeep Club
>
> We'd love to have our club listed in your off-road section.
>
> As for stories, we generally have 2 or 3 trips per week, usually not
> anything particularly notable, but then I'm not exactly sure what you are
> looking for. We did have an Anniversary run to Crown King Aug 4th, with
> about 75 members participating.
>
> A few times per year, we sponsor clean-ups of various areas around
> Arizona. Most notably is the Annual Saguaro Lake Coves Clean-Up. The
> last cleanup (http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=109) was quite a
> success and was written up in the Fountain Hills Times.
>
> Since the AzVJC isn't a typical "organized" club, we have no President,
> VP, Treasurer, Officers, Rules, etc... And, I'm no more in charge than any
> other member; I simply offered my services to build a website. Members
> Join simply by signing up at our website. Any member can volunteer to
> lead a Trip, write a Tech Article, post a Land Use issue, post an
> Advertisement, add a picture to the Gallery, etc..
>
> Let me know what you'd like and I will pass it on to the group.
>
> - Mike
>
30116 From: <ryan44ihs@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 3:42pm
Subject: Lake Powell Question:
I'm goin up to tha lake this weekend and want to know of some good
trails. Thanks , R. Schmidt
30117 From: <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 4:59pm
Subject: Re: RE Lifts
Check out www.bigoffroad.com I don't know how the service is, but I
think the prices are pretty good.
Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "David R. W. Withers" <dr_ww@h...> wrote:
> Other than 4 wheelers and Toy Box who sells RE lifts?
>
> _____________
> David R. W. Withers
> Network Engineer/ Senior QA Engineer
> * 480-215-6992
> ' 480-551-4667
> * dwithers@a...
> _____________
30118 From: Ralph Williams <ralphbw@q...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 5:12pm
Subject: Re: Overheating...is anyone knowledgable aboutcooling fans?
Kevin,
I think the next line up from 210 is 220...possibly 230. My ZJ
isn't here right now so I can't look at it. Mine is a '96 so may
be different from yours....Mine will run up about halfway between
210 and the next line sometimes. Mostly happens on the freeway at
80mph+ going up hill. Idling around it runs right at 210.
Ralph
30119 From: <Spgirard30@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 1:46pm
Subject: TJ lift
I am getting ready to do a TJ lift on a buddies jeep. what kit is the most complete and what else is required to complete a lift? He is looking to spend around 800 bucks on the lift.
TIA
Shaun
30120 From: Daddy Longlegs <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 5:52pm
Subject: RE: **LOSLOCOS4WD** New e-group, read on if you are politically incorrect
Good luck!
-----Original Message-----
From: cmandrick@h... [mailto:cmandrick@h...]
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 11:13 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] **LOSLOCOS4WD** New e-group, read on if you are
politically incorrect
I started a new egroup called LOSLOCOS 4WD the other night.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LOSLOCOS4WD
I will always be on the AZVJC, but the group I started is meant for
those who drink beer, have a thick skin, can take a little **** from
someone in stride without getting butt-hurt, joke about your mom, 4-
wheel on hard trails, have a blatant disregard for evrything related
to and including the Sierra Club and its affiliates, and most
importantly, those who are slightly crazy. This will probably be a
big hit with some of you out there, and my flame-proof suit is ready
for the as of lately *****ing crowd.
Cheers,
Chris Mandrick
87 YJ turd brown
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30121 From: Daddy Longlegs <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 5:59pm
Subject: RE: New LCA Brackets $$ ??
Rick,
ORF will do this on all 4 LCA brackets and reinforce the frame brackets for
that much. Stu, myself, and others have had it done. I recommend it. Just be
certain to ask that they remove the arms before welding. I believe Doug B
had a complaint awhile back about this.
Stu has some great pics on his website www.stu-offroad.com
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Hall [mailto:ricknhall@h...]
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 12:55 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] New LCA Brackets $$ ??
4 Wheelers quoted me about $400 to replace both LCA axle brackets on
my 98TJ with heavy duty brackets w/skids. That's sounds reasonable
since RE wants $300 for their brackets and I would still have to get
them welded. I haven't worked with their fab shop before. Does the
price sound right? I had my gears done by them and the results were
good. Anybody had work done but their fab shop?
TIA
Rick
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30122 From: Daddy Longlegs <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 6:03pm
Subject: RE: HP for 2.5L
Having owned a 4 banger before trading up to the 6 I have to say from
experience that you should first spend your money on gearing and then
consider power mods. I'd recommend 4.88's in the axles (for the street) and
a Teralow 4:1 (for the trail). I did power mods to my little 4 banger while
I had it and none of them provided the kind of increase in power that was
worth the money spent. All they did was make my Jeep louder and suck more
gas.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Herring [mailto:herring@q...]
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:51 PM
To: 'Eddie Nordstrom'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] HP for 2.5L
A small tube header should help.
Eric Herring 92XJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Eddie Nordstrom [mailto:Kilr650@a...]
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 12:15 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] HP for 2.5L
I am looking for ways to increase the HP on my '98 TJ SE 2.5L engine. I am
really interested in the Turbo City throttle body mod. Anyone running this?
I am more concerned about geeting extra power for when its on pavement but
do not want a mod that will hinder trail performance. I want good throttle
response and low to mid rpm power. i already have 31" tires with 4.56 gears
and less restrictive cat back exh. I don't know the brand of the exh. which
was put on by previous owner. Everything else is stock.
TIA
Eddie Nordstrom
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30123 From: gandre01 <gandre01@m...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 6:17pm
Subject: Fw: Help Me please!
This happened to my XJ over its 200,000+ miles before I sold it. I replaced the crankshaft position sensor (CPS)several times and the problem kept recurring. I eventually determined that the problem could be resolved by simply disconnecting and then reconnecting the CPS. The CPS connector (2 pins in a 3 pin connector if memory serves) is located on the driver's side of the valve cover just in front of the firewall.
I guarantee this will work everytime! Throw nothing else at this problem!
George Andrews
'83 Cherokee WT, 454TBI, TH400, QT, D44s, 35x12.50s, ARBs
'00 TJ
Avondale Arizona
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----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick Green
To: XJs ; Jeeps
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 1:53 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Help Me please!
This is going to be a bit long, but please bear with me. 87' XJ, 4.0,auto,Laredo pkg., 3" Skyjacker lift, Wilderness roof rack...etc.
Apx. 270,000 on vehicle, apx 50,000 on engine, trans, tc,. Ok, here we go, one June morning I go out to start her up, she fires right up as usual then dies, I restart her and go through this 3 times before she stays running, doesn't happen again for at least 3 more weeks, can't find anything wrong. About the first of July I go out and she turns over but will not start ( no fire at plug wires), the next day I go out and she fires right up and is fine for the next week or so and then one morning will not start again. In the meantime I find myself down in Phoenix so I stop in at Lou Grubb and pick up a new ignition module and coil since its never been replaced in the aformentioned 270K , after installing these I have no problem for at least 2 weeks then,yup, she turns over but will not start( yes I tried putting the old ign. mod and coil back in, no change), I'm mad, call tow truck, tow truck arrives, driver says hey this sounds like your ignition relay (under pass. side of hood on fender, five in a row)we pull one out and switch it for another one, she fires right up, unhook tow truck, smile, go to local dealer and purchase all 5 brand new and install. Yup same story, a week or so later turns over will not start, no fire at plug wires, mechanic friend in Phx. says R&R crank sensor. I did, works like a champ. go to Laughlin, get married, have fun, drive home, life is good. Yesterday go outside to fire her up (the Jeep) ,you guessed it, turns over fine,will not start, no fire at plug wires. So far have thrown plugs, Jacobs rotor, cap, and wires, relays, ignition mod and coil, and crank sensor at it and am still lost. All wire connections look good, ground to engine block is fine, fuel pressure and volume is fine, changed filter just for fun. Just in case all this isn't weird enough about the time all this started I lost the ability to keep the pre-sets on the radio, they stay for a day or so and then all revert back to 530, I know its probably unrelated but I'm desparate, I need to be in Texas on the 7th and the dealer can't even get me in up here until the 30th (Show Low), if he works on it Friday and then orders parts with the labor day weekend, well you see my situation. ANY thoughts or ideas will be most welcome. Thanks, Doc.
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30124 From: DesertJeep <joey@j...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 6:30pm
Subject: RE: Diesel in a YJ
Check this out - there is a guy down the street from me that has one of
those Postal Jeep rigs. Over the gas tank cap it says diesel. The front
of it looks like fiberglass from the winshield forward. It is quite odd
looking because it white with some low profile tires on white spoke
wagon wheels. I can't say more than what it looks like because I don't
know them. I hope to snap a picture when I get a chance.
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nickcarrie@h... [mailto:nickcarrie@h...]
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 10:00 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Diesel in a YJ
>
>
> Does anyone know or have a Diesel motor in their YJ? My friend just
> blew his 6 cly sunday night. He is thinking of putting one in and
> would like to hear opinions on it.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
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>
30125 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 6:36pm
Subject: [FS] HARDTO CJ7 FOR SALE OR TRADE
Price: REDUCED TO $275.00 OR BEST OFFER OR TRADE
Contact: JERRY 480-797-4112 CELL PHONE DAYS OR E-MAIL JKRYN@QWEST.NET
HARDTOP FOR CJ7...DARK PRIMER IN COLOR...TOP IN GOOD SHAPE
LIFTGATE HAS SOME RUST BUT SOLID...ALL WINDOWS IN GOOD SHAPE.
INTERIOR OF TOP HAS GLUE STRIPPING THROUGHOUT WHERE SOMEONE
HAD GLUED IN A LINER AND THEN REMOVED....
ASKING $275.00 OR BEST OFFER....WILL CONSIDER TRADE FOR
WHEEL/TIRE COMBO (32s OR LARGER ON 5 x 4.5 FOR JEEP) OR
A LIFT KIT FOR A 95 YJ....
NEED TO GET OUT OF MY GARAGE IN CHANDLER, AZ
Jerry Kryn
30126 From: Brian Harmon <xjnation@h...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 6:58pm
Subject: MOAB OCT 8-13....... any other XJ owners going?
Hey all,
just wondering if anyone besides me is going to the NAXJA event in October
in Moab this year?
Brian Harmon
88 XJ Laredo
http://www.cherokee-nation.com
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30127 From: <Kilr650@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 3:00pm
Subject: Re: HP for 2.5L
Scott,
I know we discussed this briefly after our run thru "The Gap" and I will
not argue against you on the benefits of proper gearing. You should see all
the sprockets I have for my motorcycles. But if possible I do not want to
increase engine rpm while cruising at 70-75mph. Even though this is not my
daily driver. Is there anyone mod. you would do over again if you had a four
banger?
Eddie
30128 From: <mbailey345@y...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 7:01pm
Subject: FS cj3b
53 cj3b, 289 v-8, runs perfect, no tranny or transfer case, body
stright,32- 11.5 at's, confer shackles, towbar, 1200 firm or
interesting trade??? call lee masom. 602-316-2975
30129 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 7:25pm
Subject: Re: New LCA Brackets $$ ??
Can't remember what it cost, but I had O-R Fab truss the stock brackets -
which has made them plenty strong, and was certainly a bit cheaper than
replacing the brackets altogether. Also has the advantage of not having to
grind off the stock brackets - then re weld on new ones and re heat the
tube.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Hall" <ricknhall@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 12:55 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] New LCA Brackets $$ ??
> 4 Wheelers quoted me about $400 to replace both LCA axle brackets on
> my 98TJ with heavy duty brackets w/skids. That's sounds reasonable
> since RE wants $300 for their brackets and I would still have to get
> them welded. I haven't worked with their fab shop before. Does the
> price sound right? I had my gears done by them and the results were
> good. Anybody had work done but their fab shop?
>
> TIA
> Rick
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
30130 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 7:27pm
Subject: Re: RE Lifts
RE direct 916-858-8575
----- Original Message -----
From: David R. W. Withers
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:42 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] RE Lifts
Other than 4 wheelers and Toy Box who sells RE lifts?
_____________
David R. W. Withers
Network Engineer/ Senior QA Engineer
È 480-215-6992
' 480-551-4667
* dwithers@atstraffic.com
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30131 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 7:22pm
Subject: RE: New LCA Brackets $$ ??
Randy at Four Wheeler's supply built my cage... he did great work; but it
was expensive.
If I were you; I'd get a quote from John at Hunter Offroad (480) 557-7577...
my guess is that it will be less expensive and just as good a job.
Joe West
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 7:26 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; Rick Hall
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] New LCA Brackets $$ ??
>
>
> Can't remember what it cost, but I had O-R Fab truss the
> stock brackets -
> which has made them plenty strong, and was certainly a bit
> cheaper than
> replacing the brackets altogether. Also has the advantage of
> not having to
> grind off the stock brackets - then re weld on new ones and
> re heat the
> tube.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Hall" <ricknhall@h...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 12:55 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] New LCA Brackets $$ ??
>
>
> > 4 Wheelers quoted me about $400 to replace both LCA axle brackets on
> > my 98TJ with heavy duty brackets w/skids. That's sounds reasonable
> > since RE wants $300 for their brackets and I would still have to get
> > them welded. I haven't worked with their fab shop before. Does the
> > price sound right? I had my gears done by them and the results were
> > good. Anybody had work done but their fab shop?
> >
> > TIA
> > Rick
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
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30132 From: Daddy Longlegs <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 7:30pm
Subject: RE: HP for 2.5L
Eddie,
The K&N filter with exhaust mods helped the 4 banger the most for highway
power. It was still a dog despite everything I put on it.
Even my 6 banger is a dog on the freeway with 4.56's, 35's and a catback. It
feels as though it is always dragging a parachute behind it.
There are some good writeups about 4 banger mods including the 4.0 throttle
body at www.jeepwire.com if that's the route you choose to go.
Take care,
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Kilr650@a... [mailto:Kilr650@a...]
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 7:01 PM
To: scottkruize@e...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] HP for 2.5L
Scott,
I know we discussed this briefly after our run thru "The Gap" and I will
not argue against you on the benefits of proper gearing. You should see all
the sprockets I have for my motorcycles. But if possible I do not want to
increase engine rpm while cruising at 70-75mph. Even though this is not my
daily driver. Is there anyone mod. you would do over again if you had a four
banger?
Eddie
30133 From: Daddy Longlegs <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 7:33pm
Subject: RE: RE Lifts
Call Bob Supplee. His prices usually are the cheapest and they include shipping.
405-799-8977
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@home.com]
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 7:27 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; David R. W. Withers
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] RE Lifts
RE direct 916-858-8575
----- Original Message -----
From: David R. W. Withers
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:42 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] RE Lifts
Other than 4 wheelers and Toy Box who sells RE lifts?
_____________
David R. W. Withers
Network Engineer/ Senior QA Engineer
È 480-215-6992
' 480-551-4667
* dwithers@atstraffic.com
_____________
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30134 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 7:55pm
Subject: Re: Overheating...is anyone knowledgable about cooling fans?
Hi Tom,
I just sent Kevin a note about what I did. I reduced the anti-freeze
from 50% to 30%, added 12 oz of water wetter, and power washed the
transmission and engine radiators to clean out any junk in the fins. It
appears to have brought the temp down 10-15 deg F. We have had a couple
of really hot days lately. It's a cheap fix $6-7 (Pep Boys) and worth a
try before putting other components.
I was running closer to 230 (between the tic and the red line. It could
actually be hotter) on freeways and during rush hour traffic. Now it
stays around the 210 mark.
We did some testing. The factory grill pushed more air through the
radiators than not having the grill on. The 1993 grills are extremely
low-flow. Later models have openings on the grills are at least 25%
larger. I am buying one of those billeted aluminum grills since it
appears to have more over space and (hopefully) more directional flow.
They make them with a satin black powder coat finish. No chrome for me!
We are also planning on drilling some holes through the front cross
member to increase air flow to the bottom of the radiators.
Linda
tom le wrote:
>
> Kevin,
> Here is my $.02 worth. I've experienced the same
> problem on my '94 4.0 I6 ZJ with 133K miles. However,
> my current setup on my rig is a lot different than
> yours being the fact that I've much lower gears
> (4.56s), Ramsey winch jammed next the radiator, and
> not to mention the way oversized tires (36" TSL). In
> the very hot day (+100F), my temp. guage mornally
> reads between 210 and 230F with the AC on and
> sometimes it reaches 240F for a long driving and/or
> pulling a trailer. According to the dealer, 210F is
> normal but 240F is not an unusal. To play it safe,
> I've purchased a 3-coil radiator ($150) with a new
> factory thermostat ($195F) to set aside for a day when
> I really need to swap it. Perhaps before I am heading
> up to Lake Tahoe, CA to run the Rubicon Trail late
> this year. Maybe you need to do the samething...
>
> Linda Luik - do you have any inputs on this...
>
> Tom
>
> --- Kevin Fell <kwfell@y...> wrote:
> > That's extremely interesting about the "spinning air
> > dam effect". I hadn't
> > thought about that. Thanks for alerting me.
> >
> > "How hot is hot"? I usually run just shy of 210 for
> > the most part (normal
> > for a 180* stat), but if I turn the AC on, the
> > temperature gets as high as
> > over the next line up (240*?) before I shut the AC
> > off and run it at a fast
> > idle to get it down again. You guys may think I'm a
> > major wussy running a
> > trail with the AC on, (and that's fine...I probably
> > am), but when you spend
> > money for "creature comforts" it irritates you if
> > you can't use the money
> > you invested. It's a little like buying a house
> > with a pool with a gate
> > that locks on hot days. You can see it, you can
> > feel it, but you can't use
> > it. I ran a Cherokee for years without AC on the
> > trail, but decided a few
> > years ago that it was time for an upgrade.
> >
> > Anyway, it's a problem that only exists in the
> > summer, and I am leaning
> > toward the 5.9L fan fix, as that seems like the only
> > one that will
> > GUARANTEE a solution without modifying the fan
> > shroud unrepairably.
> > Unfortunately, I can't fit a pusher fan
> > (anti-sucker) on the front of the
> > radiator the way they have done the grill on the ZJ.
> >
> > Thanks again for the air dam perspective...I would
> > have gone and wasted $50
> > as well as my labor to install it, then reinstall my
> > old one.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > KevinF
> > Jeep in Heat
> >
> >
> > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
> >
> > On 8/27/2001 at 1:09 AM KHD1972 wrote:
> > Hey Kevin,
> > PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE odn't waste your
> > money on a flex-fan! Did
> > I say please? They actually will reduce the
> > efficientcy of your cooling
> > sustem at higher RPMs. It works on the principle of
> > the blades flattening
> > out at higher speeds, when the fan is not supposed
> > to be necessary because
> > the vehicle speed is enough to provide airflow. The
> > problem with the
> > theory is that when you reach higher RPMs, the fan
> > blades flatten out,
> > effectively giving you a flat, spinning, air damn
> > that blocks air from your
> > engine and pulls squat through your radiator!
> > Imagine the negative side
> > effects this would have on the trail where higher
> > RPMs are frequent, with
> > vehicle speed rather slow! Plus, it will overheat
> > your engine in a heart
> > beat climbing steep grades at highway speeds,
> > especially if the Jeep is
> > loaded down or pulling a trailer. These fans are a
> > spiffy looking waste of
> > money and will not solve your problem. The electric
> > fans should solve your
> > problem. The $75 extra electric fan in addition to
> > the mechanical sounds
> > like the way to go. This fan could be mounted on
> > the outside of the
> > radiator if you have more room there. Just position
> > it to blow through the
> > radiator, rather than suck(hehe, that always cracks
> > me up).
> > I do have one question, though. How hot is
> > "overheating?" Modern
> > engines run pretty hot to begin with, with 200 to
> > 210 an accepted "norm."
> > Unless it's hitting 230 or higher, I wouldn't even
> > worry about it.
> > Especially if it cools down right away when you get
> > moving again.
> >
> > Just my .02! Your mileage may vary (missed seein
> > that lately!)
> >
> > Keirvan
> > 95 YJ, Forest Green with a few stickers, aspiring to
> > be as stickered as
> > Joe's!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Kevin Fell
> > To: AZVJC List
> > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 9:34 PM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Overheating...is anyone
> > knowledgable about cooling fans?
> >
> >
> > Hello all you Cooling Gurus:
> >
> > I'm running a Grand with the 5.2L V8 that likes to
> > heat up during extended
> > idles. I'm considering one of three things:
> >
> > 1) Swap my stock cooling fan for a FlexFan (about
> > $50)
> >
> > ...or...
> >
> > 2) Running an auxiliary 16" fan between my
> > mechanical fan and the radiator
> > (3" of space doesn't leave me much and around $75)
> >
> > ...or...
> >
> > 3) Completely remove the stock fan and clutch and
> > run with a stock
> > two-speed electric fan out of a '98 5.9L Grand
> > Cherokee (about $200!!!) A
> > sub-benefit would be that I would get a little more
> > horsepower from the
> > lesser load on the engine.
> >
> >
> > Does anyone have any insight into what would work
> > best (read: most
> > cost-effective increase in cooling) for me? It ONLY
> > overheats on a hot day
> > while idling or rock-crawling and usually only when
> > the AC is on.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Yours truly,
> > "Jeep in Heat"
> > (a.k.a. KevinF)
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!
> > Terms of Service.
> >
> >
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30135 From: T.J. Nosmo-King <ice626@h...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 8:04pm
Subject: Re: FW: Publicity
Off-Highway or Off-Road section????
TJ Gill
75 CJ5
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30136 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 8:00pm
Subject: Re: New LCA Brackets $$ ??
Rick,
I bought the brackets from RE and had ORU install them. If I recall it
was a $75 charge per axle, but that was a few years ago. I didn't bother
with skids since the RE parts are much stouter than the OEM laminated
pieces that came on the ZJ.
Linda
Rick Hall wrote:
>
> 4 Wheelers quoted me about $400 to replace both LCA axle brackets on
> my 98TJ with heavy duty brackets w/skids. That's sounds reasonable
> since RE wants $300 for their brackets and I would still have to get
> them welded. I haven't worked with their fab shop before. Does the
> price sound right? I had my gears done by them and the results were
> good. Anybody had work done but their fab shop?
>
> TIA
> Rick
>
>
>
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30137 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 8:03pm
Subject: Re: Diesel in a YJ
It would be very expensive. Even used diesel engines aren't cheap. If
your friend finds a source, let me know! Steve is still wavering between
rebuilding the Nissan or putting in a used 4-cyl Cummins.
Linda
nickcarrie@h... wrote:
>
> Does anyone know or have a Diesel motor in their YJ? My friend just
> blew his 6 cly sunday night. He is thinking of putting one in and
> would like to hear opinions on it.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
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30138 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 8:13pm
Subject: The greens are beating us!!!
From: brlist@s...
To: mudbogr@a...
Subject: CALLING ALL EMAIL NETWORKS!!
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:10:05 -0500
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30114 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 3:03pm
Subject: Re: HP for 2.5L
Horsepower...2.5L...I don't think I've ever seen those two used in
the same sentence...:)
I think Chris R. has the most mods on a 2.5L that I know of, he would
be a good reference person.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Eddie Nordstrom" <Kilr650@a...> wrote:
> I am looking for ways to increase the HP on my '98 TJ SE 2.5L
engine. I am really interested in the Turbo City throttle body mod.
Anyone running this? I am more concerned about geeting extra power
for when its on pavement but do not want a mod that will hinder trail
performance. I want good throttle response and low to mid rpm power.
i already have 31" tires with 4.56 gears and less restrictive cat
back exh. I don't know the brand of the exh. which was put on by
previous owner. Everything else is stock.
>
> TIA
>
> Eddie Nordstrom
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30115 From: Chatfield, Mike <Mike@A...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 3:13pm
Subject: FW: Publicity
More Info:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert G. Willis [mailto:rwilli12@p...]
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:32 PM
> To: Chatfield, Mike
> Cc: Ken Coon
> Subject: RE: New Virtual Jeep Club
>
> Sounds like you guys are having a great time. There are allot of clubs
> looking for new trails and there are allot of people looking for clubs.
> AZOD has become a focal point for Hunting, fishing and camping in the
> state and we would like to include offroad. Most of the articles are
> written by our readers but each section has an editor or expert to help.
> All articles are rather short and to the point. We can help rewrite if
> anyone is interested. AZOD has also developed some great contacts with
> Local TV, News Papers and Radio so we can help to get the word out about
> an event, like your cleanup efforts. We are a focal point for outdoor
> activities in Arizona and we would like to include Offroad activities. We
> have our new section up and running and will be loading material over the
> next few days. We'd love to post some of your tips, article ect... and you
> will be give full credit. With over 1200 people visiting us each day you
> can't go wrong.
>
> Thanks for the reply and the consideration
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chatfield, Mike [mailto:Mike.Chatfield@p...]
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 12:33 PM
> To: 'rwilli12@p...'
> Subject: RE: New Virtual Jeep Club
>
> We'd love to have our club listed in your off-road section.
>
> As for stories, we generally have 2 or 3 trips per week, usually not
> anything particularly notable, but then I'm not exactly sure what you are
> looking for. We did have an Anniversary run to Crown King Aug 4th, with
> about 75 members participating.
>
> A few times per year, we sponsor clean-ups of various areas around
> Arizona. Most notably is the Annual Saguaro Lake Coves Clean-Up. The
> last cleanup (http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=109) was quite a
> success and was written up in the Fountain Hills Times.
>
> Since the AzVJC isn't a typical "organized" club, we have no President,
> VP, Treasurer, Officers, Rules, etc... And, I'm no more in charge than any
> other member; I simply offered my services to build a website. Members
> Join simply by signing up at our website. Any member can volunteer to
> lead a Trip, write a Tech Article, post a Land Use issue, post an
> Advertisement, add a picture to the Gallery, etc..
>
> Let me know what you'd like and I will pass it on to the group.
>
> - Mike
>
30116 From: <ryan44ihs@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 3:42pm
Subject: Lake Powell Question:
I'm goin up to tha lake this weekend and want to know of some good
trails. Thanks , R. Schmidt
30117 From: <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 4:59pm
Subject: Re: RE Lifts
Check out www.bigoffroad.com I don't know how the service is, but I
think the prices are pretty good.
Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "David R. W. Withers" <dr_ww@h...> wrote:
> Other than 4 wheelers and Toy Box who sells RE lifts?
>
> _____________
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> Network Engineer/ Senior QA Engineer
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> ' 480-551-4667
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30118 From: Ralph Williams <ralphbw@q...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 5:12pm
Subject: Re: Overheating...is anyone knowledgable aboutcooling fans?
Kevin,
I think the next line up from 210 is 220...possibly 230. My ZJ
isn't here right now so I can't look at it. Mine is a '96 so may
be different from yours....Mine will run up about halfway between
210 and the next line sometimes. Mostly happens on the freeway at
80mph+ going up hill. Idling around it runs right at 210.
Ralph
30119 From: <Spgirard30@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 1:46pm
Subject: TJ lift
I am getting ready to do a TJ lift on a buddies jeep. what kit is the most complete and what else is required to complete a lift? He is looking to spend around 800 bucks on the lift.
TIA
Shaun
30120 From: Daddy Longlegs <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 5:52pm
Subject: RE: **LOSLOCOS4WD** New e-group, read on if you are politically incorrect
Good luck!
-----Original Message-----
From: cmandrick@h... [mailto:cmandrick@h...]
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 11:13 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] **LOSLOCOS4WD** New e-group, read on if you are
politically incorrect
I started a new egroup called LOSLOCOS 4WD the other night.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LOSLOCOS4WD
I will always be on the AZVJC, but the group I started is meant for
those who drink beer, have a thick skin, can take a little **** from
someone in stride without getting butt-hurt, joke about your mom, 4-
wheel on hard trails, have a blatant disregard for evrything related
to and including the Sierra Club and its affiliates, and most
importantly, those who are slightly crazy. This will probably be a
big hit with some of you out there, and my flame-proof suit is ready
for the as of lately *****ing crowd.
Cheers,
Chris Mandrick
87 YJ turd brown
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30121 From: Daddy Longlegs <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 5:59pm
Subject: RE: New LCA Brackets $$ ??
Rick,
ORF will do this on all 4 LCA brackets and reinforce the frame brackets for
that much. Stu, myself, and others have had it done. I recommend it. Just be
certain to ask that they remove the arms before welding. I believe Doug B
had a complaint awhile back about this.
Stu has some great pics on his website www.stu-offroad.com
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Hall [mailto:ricknhall@h...]
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 12:55 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] New LCA Brackets $$ ??
4 Wheelers quoted me about $400 to replace both LCA axle brackets on
my 98TJ with heavy duty brackets w/skids. That's sounds reasonable
since RE wants $300 for their brackets and I would still have to get
them welded. I haven't worked with their fab shop before. Does the
price sound right? I had my gears done by them and the results were
good. Anybody had work done but their fab shop?
TIA
Rick
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30122 From: Daddy Longlegs <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 6:03pm
Subject: RE: HP for 2.5L
Having owned a 4 banger before trading up to the 6 I have to say from
experience that you should first spend your money on gearing and then
consider power mods. I'd recommend 4.88's in the axles (for the street) and
a Teralow 4:1 (for the trail). I did power mods to my little 4 banger while
I had it and none of them provided the kind of increase in power that was
worth the money spent. All they did was make my Jeep louder and suck more
gas.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Herring [mailto:herring@q...]
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:51 PM
To: 'Eddie Nordstrom'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] HP for 2.5L
A small tube header should help.
Eric Herring 92XJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Eddie Nordstrom [mailto:Kilr650@a...]
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 12:15 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] HP for 2.5L
I am looking for ways to increase the HP on my '98 TJ SE 2.5L engine. I am
really interested in the Turbo City throttle body mod. Anyone running this?
I am more concerned about geeting extra power for when its on pavement but
do not want a mod that will hinder trail performance. I want good throttle
response and low to mid rpm power. i already have 31" tires with 4.56 gears
and less restrictive cat back exh. I don't know the brand of the exh. which
was put on by previous owner. Everything else is stock.
TIA
Eddie Nordstrom
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30123 From: gandre01 <gandre01@m...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 6:17pm
Subject: Fw: Help Me please!
This happened to my XJ over its 200,000+ miles before I sold it. I replaced the crankshaft position sensor (CPS)several times and the problem kept recurring. I eventually determined that the problem could be resolved by simply disconnecting and then reconnecting the CPS. The CPS connector (2 pins in a 3 pin connector if memory serves) is located on the driver's side of the valve cover just in front of the firewall.
I guarantee this will work everytime! Throw nothing else at this problem!
George Andrews
'83 Cherokee WT, 454TBI, TH400, QT, D44s, 35x12.50s, ARBs
'00 TJ
Avondale Arizona
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----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick Green
To: XJs ; Jeeps
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 1:53 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Help Me please!
This is going to be a bit long, but please bear with me. 87' XJ, 4.0,auto,Laredo pkg., 3" Skyjacker lift, Wilderness roof rack...etc.
Apx. 270,000 on vehicle, apx 50,000 on engine, trans, tc,. Ok, here we go, one June morning I go out to start her up, she fires right up as usual then dies, I restart her and go through this 3 times before she stays running, doesn't happen again for at least 3 more weeks, can't find anything wrong. About the first of July I go out and she turns over but will not start ( no fire at plug wires), the next day I go out and she fires right up and is fine for the next week or so and then one morning will not start again. In the meantime I find myself down in Phoenix so I stop in at Lou Grubb and pick up a new ignition module and coil since its never been replaced in the aformentioned 270K , after installing these I have no problem for at least 2 weeks then,yup, she turns over but will not start( yes I tried putting the old ign. mod and coil back in, no change), I'm mad, call tow truck, tow truck arrives, driver says hey this sounds like your ignition relay (under pass. side of hood on fender, five in a row)we pull one out and switch it for another one, she fires right up, unhook tow truck, smile, go to local dealer and purchase all 5 brand new and install. Yup same story, a week or so later turns over will not start, no fire at plug wires, mechanic friend in Phx. says R&R crank sensor. I did, works like a champ. go to Laughlin, get married, have fun, drive home, life is good. Yesterday go outside to fire her up (the Jeep) ,you guessed it, turns over fine,will not start, no fire at plug wires. So far have thrown plugs, Jacobs rotor, cap, and wires, relays, ignition mod and coil, and crank sensor at it and am still lost. All wire connections look good, ground to engine block is fine, fuel pressure and volume is fine, changed filter just for fun. Just in case all this isn't weird enough about the time all this started I lost the ability to keep the pre-sets on the radio, they stay for a day or so and then all revert back to 530, I know its probably unrelated but I'm desparate, I need to be in Texas on the 7th and the dealer can't even get me in up here until the 30th (Show Low), if he works on it Friday and then orders parts with the labor day weekend, well you see my situation. ANY thoughts or ideas will be most welcome. Thanks, Doc.
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30124 From: DesertJeep <joey@j...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 6:30pm
Subject: RE: Diesel in a YJ
Check this out - there is a guy down the street from me that has one of
those Postal Jeep rigs. Over the gas tank cap it says diesel. The front
of it looks like fiberglass from the winshield forward. It is quite odd
looking because it white with some low profile tires on white spoke
wagon wheels. I can't say more than what it looks like because I don't
know them. I hope to snap a picture when I get a chance.
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nickcarrie@h... [mailto:nickcarrie@h...]
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 10:00 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Diesel in a YJ
>
>
> Does anyone know or have a Diesel motor in their YJ? My friend just
> blew his 6 cly sunday night. He is thinking of putting one in and
> would like to hear opinions on it.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
30125 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 6:36pm
Subject: [FS] HARDTO CJ7 FOR SALE OR TRADE
Price: REDUCED TO $275.00 OR BEST OFFER OR TRADE
Contact: JERRY 480-797-4112 CELL PHONE DAYS OR E-MAIL JKRYN@QWEST.NET
HARDTOP FOR CJ7...DARK PRIMER IN COLOR...TOP IN GOOD SHAPE
LIFTGATE HAS SOME RUST BUT SOLID...ALL WINDOWS IN GOOD SHAPE.
INTERIOR OF TOP HAS GLUE STRIPPING THROUGHOUT WHERE SOMEONE
HAD GLUED IN A LINER AND THEN REMOVED....
ASKING $275.00 OR BEST OFFER....WILL CONSIDER TRADE FOR
WHEEL/TIRE COMBO (32s OR LARGER ON 5 x 4.5 FOR JEEP) OR
A LIFT KIT FOR A 95 YJ....
NEED TO GET OUT OF MY GARAGE IN CHANDLER, AZ
Jerry Kryn
30126 From: Brian Harmon <xjnation@h...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 6:58pm
Subject: MOAB OCT 8-13....... any other XJ owners going?
Hey all,
just wondering if anyone besides me is going to the NAXJA event in October
in Moab this year?
Brian Harmon
88 XJ Laredo
http://www.cherokee-nation.com
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30127 From: <Kilr650@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 3:00pm
Subject: Re: HP for 2.5L
Scott,
I know we discussed this briefly after our run thru "The Gap" and I will
not argue against you on the benefits of proper gearing. You should see all
the sprockets I have for my motorcycles. But if possible I do not want to
increase engine rpm while cruising at 70-75mph. Even though this is not my
daily driver. Is there anyone mod. you would do over again if you had a four
banger?
Eddie
30128 From: <mbailey345@y...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 7:01pm
Subject: FS cj3b
53 cj3b, 289 v-8, runs perfect, no tranny or transfer case, body
stright,32- 11.5 at's, confer shackles, towbar, 1200 firm or
interesting trade??? call lee masom. 602-316-2975
30129 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 7:25pm
Subject: Re: New LCA Brackets $$ ??
Can't remember what it cost, but I had O-R Fab truss the stock brackets -
which has made them plenty strong, and was certainly a bit cheaper than
replacing the brackets altogether. Also has the advantage of not having to
grind off the stock brackets - then re weld on new ones and re heat the
tube.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Hall" <ricknhall@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 12:55 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] New LCA Brackets $$ ??
> 4 Wheelers quoted me about $400 to replace both LCA axle brackets on
> my 98TJ with heavy duty brackets w/skids. That's sounds reasonable
> since RE wants $300 for their brackets and I would still have to get
> them welded. I haven't worked with their fab shop before. Does the
> price sound right? I had my gears done by them and the results were
> good. Anybody had work done but their fab shop?
>
> TIA
> Rick
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
30130 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 7:27pm
Subject: Re: RE Lifts
RE direct 916-858-8575
----- Original Message -----
From: David R. W. Withers
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:42 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] RE Lifts
Other than 4 wheelers and Toy Box who sells RE lifts?
_____________
David R. W. Withers
Network Engineer/ Senior QA Engineer
È 480-215-6992
' 480-551-4667
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30131 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 7:22pm
Subject: RE: New LCA Brackets $$ ??
Randy at Four Wheeler's supply built my cage... he did great work; but it
was expensive.
If I were you; I'd get a quote from John at Hunter Offroad (480) 557-7577...
my guess is that it will be less expensive and just as good a job.
Joe West
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 7:26 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; Rick Hall
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] New LCA Brackets $$ ??
>
>
> Can't remember what it cost, but I had O-R Fab truss the
> stock brackets -
> which has made them plenty strong, and was certainly a bit
> cheaper than
> replacing the brackets altogether. Also has the advantage of
> not having to
> grind off the stock brackets - then re weld on new ones and
> re heat the
> tube.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Hall" <ricknhall@h...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 12:55 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] New LCA Brackets $$ ??
>
>
> > 4 Wheelers quoted me about $400 to replace both LCA axle brackets on
> > my 98TJ with heavy duty brackets w/skids. That's sounds reasonable
> > since RE wants $300 for their brackets and I would still have to get
> > them welded. I haven't worked with their fab shop before. Does the
> > price sound right? I had my gears done by them and the results were
> > good. Anybody had work done but their fab shop?
> >
> > TIA
> > Rick
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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30132 From: Daddy Longlegs <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 7:30pm
Subject: RE: HP for 2.5L
Eddie,
The K&N filter with exhaust mods helped the 4 banger the most for highway
power. It was still a dog despite everything I put on it.
Even my 6 banger is a dog on the freeway with 4.56's, 35's and a catback. It
feels as though it is always dragging a parachute behind it.
There are some good writeups about 4 banger mods including the 4.0 throttle
body at www.jeepwire.com if that's the route you choose to go.
Take care,
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Kilr650@a... [mailto:Kilr650@a...]
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 7:01 PM
To: scottkruize@e...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] HP for 2.5L
Scott,
I know we discussed this briefly after our run thru "The Gap" and I will
not argue against you on the benefits of proper gearing. You should see all
the sprockets I have for my motorcycles. But if possible I do not want to
increase engine rpm while cruising at 70-75mph. Even though this is not my
daily driver. Is there anyone mod. you would do over again if you had a four
banger?
Eddie
30133 From: Daddy Longlegs <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 7:33pm
Subject: RE: RE Lifts
Call Bob Supplee. His prices usually are the cheapest and they include shipping.
405-799-8977
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@home.com]
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 7:27 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; David R. W. Withers
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] RE Lifts
RE direct 916-858-8575
----- Original Message -----
From: David R. W. Withers
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:42 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] RE Lifts
Other than 4 wheelers and Toy Box who sells RE lifts?
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30134 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 7:55pm
Subject: Re: Overheating...is anyone knowledgable about cooling fans?
Hi Tom,
I just sent Kevin a note about what I did. I reduced the anti-freeze
from 50% to 30%, added 12 oz of water wetter, and power washed the
transmission and engine radiators to clean out any junk in the fins. It
appears to have brought the temp down 10-15 deg F. We have had a couple
of really hot days lately. It's a cheap fix $6-7 (Pep Boys) and worth a
try before putting other components.
I was running closer to 230 (between the tic and the red line. It could
actually be hotter) on freeways and during rush hour traffic. Now it
stays around the 210 mark.
We did some testing. The factory grill pushed more air through the
radiators than not having the grill on. The 1993 grills are extremely
low-flow. Later models have openings on the grills are at least 25%
larger. I am buying one of those billeted aluminum grills since it
appears to have more over space and (hopefully) more directional flow.
They make them with a satin black powder coat finish. No chrome for me!
We are also planning on drilling some holes through the front cross
member to increase air flow to the bottom of the radiators.
Linda
tom le wrote:
>
> Kevin,
> Here is my $.02 worth. I've experienced the same
> problem on my '94 4.0 I6 ZJ with 133K miles. However,
> my current setup on my rig is a lot different than
> yours being the fact that I've much lower gears
> (4.56s), Ramsey winch jammed next the radiator, and
> not to mention the way oversized tires (36" TSL). In
> the very hot day (+100F), my temp. guage mornally
> reads between 210 and 230F with the AC on and
> sometimes it reaches 240F for a long driving and/or
> pulling a trailer. According to the dealer, 210F is
> normal but 240F is not an unusal. To play it safe,
> I've purchased a 3-coil radiator ($150) with a new
> factory thermostat ($195F) to set aside for a day when
> I really need to swap it. Perhaps before I am heading
> up to Lake Tahoe, CA to run the Rubicon Trail late
> this year. Maybe you need to do the samething...
>
> Linda Luik - do you have any inputs on this...
>
> Tom
>
> --- Kevin Fell <kwfell@y...> wrote:
> > That's extremely interesting about the "spinning air
> > dam effect". I hadn't
> > thought about that. Thanks for alerting me.
> >
> > "How hot is hot"? I usually run just shy of 210 for
> > the most part (normal
> > for a 180* stat), but if I turn the AC on, the
> > temperature gets as high as
> > over the next line up (240*?) before I shut the AC
> > off and run it at a fast
> > idle to get it down again. You guys may think I'm a
> > major wussy running a
> > trail with the AC on, (and that's fine...I probably
> > am), but when you spend
> > money for "creature comforts" it irritates you if
> > you can't use the money
> > you invested. It's a little like buying a house
> > with a pool with a gate
> > that locks on hot days. You can see it, you can
> > feel it, but you can't use
> > it. I ran a Cherokee for years without AC on the
> > trail, but decided a few
> > years ago that it was time for an upgrade.
> >
> > Anyway, it's a problem that only exists in the
> > summer, and I am leaning
> > toward the 5.9L fan fix, as that seems like the only
> > one that will
> > GUARANTEE a solution without modifying the fan
> > shroud unrepairably.
> > Unfortunately, I can't fit a pusher fan
> > (anti-sucker) on the front of the
> > radiator the way they have done the grill on the ZJ.
> >
> > Thanks again for the air dam perspective...I would
> > have gone and wasted $50
> > as well as my labor to install it, then reinstall my
> > old one.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > KevinF
> > Jeep in Heat
> >
> >
> > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
> >
> > On 8/27/2001 at 1:09 AM KHD1972 wrote:
> > Hey Kevin,
> > PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE odn't waste your
> > money on a flex-fan! Did
> > I say please? They actually will reduce the
> > efficientcy of your cooling
> > sustem at higher RPMs. It works on the principle of
> > the blades flattening
> > out at higher speeds, when the fan is not supposed
> > to be necessary because
> > the vehicle speed is enough to provide airflow. The
> > problem with the
> > theory is that when you reach higher RPMs, the fan
> > blades flatten out,
> > effectively giving you a flat, spinning, air damn
> > that blocks air from your
> > engine and pulls squat through your radiator!
> > Imagine the negative side
> > effects this would have on the trail where higher
> > RPMs are frequent, with
> > vehicle speed rather slow! Plus, it will overheat
> > your engine in a heart
> > beat climbing steep grades at highway speeds,
> > especially if the Jeep is
> > loaded down or pulling a trailer. These fans are a
> > spiffy looking waste of
> > money and will not solve your problem. The electric
> > fans should solve your
> > problem. The $75 extra electric fan in addition to
> > the mechanical sounds
> > like the way to go. This fan could be mounted on
> > the outside of the
> > radiator if you have more room there. Just position
> > it to blow through the
> > radiator, rather than suck(hehe, that always cracks
> > me up).
> > I do have one question, though. How hot is
> > "overheating?" Modern
> > engines run pretty hot to begin with, with 200 to
> > 210 an accepted "norm."
> > Unless it's hitting 230 or higher, I wouldn't even
> > worry about it.
> > Especially if it cools down right away when you get
> > moving again.
> >
> > Just my .02! Your mileage may vary (missed seein
> > that lately!)
> >
> > Keirvan
> > 95 YJ, Forest Green with a few stickers, aspiring to
> > be as stickered as
> > Joe's!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Kevin Fell
> > To: AZVJC List
> > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 9:34 PM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Overheating...is anyone
> > knowledgable about cooling fans?
> >
> >
> > Hello all you Cooling Gurus:
> >
> > I'm running a Grand with the 5.2L V8 that likes to
> > heat up during extended
> > idles. I'm considering one of three things:
> >
> > 1) Swap my stock cooling fan for a FlexFan (about
> > $50)
> >
> > ...or...
> >
> > 2) Running an auxiliary 16" fan between my
> > mechanical fan and the radiator
> > (3" of space doesn't leave me much and around $75)
> >
> > ...or...
> >
> > 3) Completely remove the stock fan and clutch and
> > run with a stock
> > two-speed electric fan out of a '98 5.9L Grand
> > Cherokee (about $200!!!) A
> > sub-benefit would be that I would get a little more
> > horsepower from the
> > lesser load on the engine.
> >
> >
> > Does anyone have any insight into what would work
> > best (read: most
> > cost-effective increase in cooling) for me? It ONLY
> > overheats on a hot day
> > while idling or rock-crawling and usually only when
> > the AC is on.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Yours truly,
> > "Jeep in Heat"
> > (a.k.a. KevinF)
> >
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30135 From: T.J. Nosmo-King <ice626@h...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 8:04pm
Subject: Re: FW: Publicity
Off-Highway or Off-Road section????
TJ Gill
75 CJ5
327/TH350
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30136 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 8:00pm
Subject: Re: New LCA Brackets $$ ??
Rick,
I bought the brackets from RE and had ORU install them. If I recall it
was a $75 charge per axle, but that was a few years ago. I didn't bother
with skids since the RE parts are much stouter than the OEM laminated
pieces that came on the ZJ.
Linda
Rick Hall wrote:
>
> 4 Wheelers quoted me about $400 to replace both LCA axle brackets on
> my 98TJ with heavy duty brackets w/skids. That's sounds reasonable
> since RE wants $300 for their brackets and I would still have to get
> them welded. I haven't worked with their fab shop before. Does the
> price sound right? I had my gears done by them and the results were
> good. Anybody had work done but their fab shop?
>
> TIA
> Rick
>
>
>
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30137 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 8:03pm
Subject: Re: Diesel in a YJ
It would be very expensive. Even used diesel engines aren't cheap. If
your friend finds a source, let me know! Steve is still wavering between
rebuilding the Nissan or putting in a used 4-cyl Cummins.
Linda
nickcarrie@h... wrote:
>
> Does anyone know or have a Diesel motor in their YJ? My friend just
> blew his 6 cly sunday night. He is thinking of putting one in and
> would like to hear opinions on it.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
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30138 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2001 8:13pm
Subject: The greens are beating us!!!
From: brlist@s...
To: mudbogr@a...
Subject: CALLING ALL EMAIL NETWORKS!!
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:10:05 -0500
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