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30039 From: DesertJeep <joey@j...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 0:02pm
Subject: RE: Metal Cutting
And skill saw for a cheap clean cut.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Herring [mailto:herring@q...]
> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 12:36 PM
> To: 'Dan Coley'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Metal Cutting
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>
> For a clean cut I'd use a cut off wheel.
>
> Eric
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Coley [mailto:mt_b@y...]
> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 11:47 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Metal Cutting
>
>
> What's the best tool to cut flat 1/4" plate steel with (longer than a
> few inches)? Plasma cutter or torch or what? Can you rent a tool
> like this, and if so where?
> Thanks
> Dan
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30040 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 0:19pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Trip Report - Terminator (Lower) - Saturday, August 25, 2001
Jim,
If you would just get rid of the fenders, you would have that problem.
:) I can do it for ya! haha
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30041 From: Daddy Longlegs <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 0:41pm
Subject:
30042 From: Daddy Longlegs <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 0:40pm
Subject: Trip report: Charouleau Gap 8/25
Hello!
We had a great time on Saturday. There was Eddie with his white TJ, Steve
and Dawn in a red YJ, Joey K in his white YJ, and Jake W and myself in my
TJ.
We met at the trailhead at 8:00. Joey, Jake, and myself were late because on
the way Joey lost his clutch. It turns out the cap was missing off the
reservoir. So with a little creative engineering using a washer fluid cap,
tire plugs as a gasket, and some tape and bailing wire he was back on the
road to the trailhead after filling it back up.
Eddie took the lead and we had a great time. Eddie showed some great driving
on the obstacles with his fairly stock TJ with 31’s and LSD’s front and rear
and only needed a high lift once when he got hung up on some rocks. Not bad
considering there is some pretty technical driving required to get a stock
TJ through this trail.
About halfway up the trail when the rocks starting getting bigger the group
let me take the lead so I could run the obstacles and then come back and
spot the others through as required. Thanks to Stu O for giving me a quick
lesson on using my GPS. He had loaded up a track into my GPS before the trip
and I followed the bread crumb trail to the end of the run.
There were a few hill climbs that got some excitement out of the open diffed
guys. I remember Steve hollering on the radio that he picked both front
tires off the ground on one of them though none of us were there to see it
or shoot a photo. Sometimes it’s a lonely job being the tailgunner ;)
There were no problems other than my tranny mount failing. As long as I kept
it in 4wd and kept the RPMs steady the tcase wouldn’t flop around too much.
But on a few of the hillclimbs I thought parts were going to be laying on
the ground.
At the end of the run we all gathered to air up. Joey K took off for Mount
Lemmon to sleep with the bears ;) Eddie and Steve had the short drive back
to Tucson. Jake and myself drove back to my truck at the trailhead, hooked
up the TJ and headed back to Phoenix.
Thanks Eddie and Steve for having us down to Tucson. I had a blast. This is
one trail nobody wants to miss!
Scott K
30043 From: Garrison St.Clair <gunslinger@i...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 1:02pm
Subject: Re: To the radio Guru's
Rick,
Here is a source on GMRS:
http://www.gmrsweb.com/gmrs.html
I don't concur with everything said on that website, nor do I endorse all of
the conclusions, but its a good overview.
Hope this helps.
Gunslinger
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick's Mail" <ricknhall@h...>
To: "AZVJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, 26 August, 2001 11:48
Subject: [az_vjc] To the radio Guru's
> What is GMRS (General Mobile Radio Service) and how does it differ from a
> CB?. I have an old FRS 2 channel and have been looking for a newer model
> since a lot of people are starting to use them (I still prefer a CB
> but...when in Rome). I have seen a new radio that has 15 channels 7 of
> which are FRS with subcodes the remaining are GMRS. This radio transmits
up
> to 5 miles and requires a license???
>
30044 From: DesertJeep <joey@j...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 1:56pm
Subject: RE: Trip report: Charouleau Gap 8/25
Good trial report Scott. However... It took longer to get you out the
front door then it did us to repair the missing cap. :) You guys missed
out by not camping. The top of Mt. Lemmon was great. The air was cool
and the view magnificent. Not to mention the drive down. Was it
Sunnyhaven or Winterhaven up there??? Anywhy that is a nice small town
in the pines there.
I will say it was a long and dusty road, like Crown King to I17, up the
the top of Mt. Lemmon. But it is worth it because goin' down the other
side is paved. And good thing too because there are lots of beautiful
vistas.
Scott I will say I am envious of you being able to tow your Jeep in the
comfort of your truck. I will have a tow bar made as the next mod for my
Jeep. (plus check the front caster for safety)
Thanks Eddie for leading the trip and Steve for the enthusiasim.
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daddy Longlegs [mailto:scottkruize@e...]
> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 12:41 PM
> To: AZVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] Trip report: Charouleau Gap 8/25
>
>
> Hello!
>
> We had a great time on Saturday. There was Eddie with his
> white TJ, Steve and Dawn in a red YJ, Joey K in his white YJ,
> and Jake W and myself in my TJ.
>
> We met at the trailhead at 8:00. Joey, Jake, and myself were
> late because on the way Joey lost his clutch. It turns out
> the cap was missing off the reservoir. So with a little
> creative engineering using a washer fluid cap, tire plugs as
> a gasket, and some tape and bailing wire he was back on the
> road to the trailhead after filling it back up.
>
> Eddie took the lead and we had a great time. Eddie showed
> some great driving on the obstacles with his fairly stock TJ
> with 31's and LSD's front and rear and only needed a high
> lift once when he got hung up on some rocks. Not bad
> considering there is some pretty technical driving required
> to get a stock TJ through this trail.
>
> About halfway up the trail when the rocks starting getting
> bigger the group let me take the lead so I could run the
> obstacles and then come back and spot the others through as
> required. Thanks to Stu O for giving me a quick lesson on
> using my GPS. He had loaded up a track into my GPS before the
> trip and I followed the bread crumb trail to the end of the run.
>
> There were a few hill climbs that got some excitement out of
> the open diffed guys. I remember Steve hollering on the radio
> that he picked both front tires off the ground on one of them
> though none of us were there to see it or shoot a photo.
> Sometimes it's a lonely job being the tailgunner ;)
>
> There were no problems other than my tranny mount failing. As
> long as I kept it in 4wd and kept the RPMs steady the tcase
> wouldn't flop around too much. But on a few of the hillclimbs
> I thought parts were going to be laying on the ground.
>
> At the end of the run we all gathered to air up. Joey K took
> off for Mount Lemmon to sleep with the bears ;) Eddie and
> Steve had the short drive back to Tucson. Jake and myself
> drove back to my truck at the trailhead, hooked up the TJ and
> headed back to Phoenix.
>
> Thanks Eddie and Steve for having us down to Tucson. I had a
> blast. This is one trail nobody wants to miss!
>
> Scott K
>
>
>
>
>
>
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30045 From: <FLEXYXJ@a...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 10:10am
Subject: Re: Trying to replace brake pads
Heh, Heh, Heh....you said BLUNT.... Sorry everyone just HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY
HAPPY that I have another jeep.....and scince I have not had an ISP for about
5 days I open my mail to 735 e-mails starting with beer and ending with
pot....hmmm I guess I am getting old..LETS JEEP!!!!
FlexyXJ (one again a man!!!!!)
30046 From: Rick's Mail <ricknhall@h...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 2:43pm
Subject: RE: To the radio Guru's
Okay, now it seems to me that this radio would server a dual purpose. It
has FRS for communicating with others on the trail but also has the ability
to transmit farther via repeaters during an emergency situation. Or is
there something else I am missing. The license is a pain but if it is only
used during an emergency would it be required. Sounds like there are a lot
of unlicensed users. I probably (or should I say hopefully) would never use
the GMRS portion of the radio.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 11:22 AM
To: Rick's Mail; AZVJC
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] To the radio Guru's
The biggest advantage to GMRS is that the radio sevice is authorized for
repeater use. This means the range can be greatly extended by relaying your
signals through radio repeaters that are located on mountain tops which then
greatly increase your range.
The bad parts about GMRS....you need a license and repeaters are usually not
free (ie., you need to pay $$ to support their operation). I personally
don't know of any Jeepers using GMRS in their vehicles....but that doesn't
mean they aren't.
I have CB, FRS, and ham radio in my TJ. For those times when these are not
adequate, I bum a cell phone from a friend (assuming they have coverage).
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick's Mail [mailto:ricknhall@h...]
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 9:48 AM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] To the radio Guru's
What is GMRS (General Mobile Radio Service) and how does it differ from a
CB?. I have an old FRS 2 channel and have been looking for a newer model
since a lot of people are starting to use them (I still prefer a CB
but...when in Rome). I have seen a new radio that has 15 channels 7 of
which are FRS with subcodes the remaining are GMRS. This radio transmits up
to 5 miles and requires a license???
Rick
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30047 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 3:10pm
Subject: RE: Trip report: Charouleau Gap 8/25
Scott,
Glad to hear you all made it OK. Did you get any pics of Joey's clutch fix?
Sounds like a pretty good recipe....1 part washer fluid cap, 3 parts tire
plug, 12" of duct tape, etc.....LOL!
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Daddy Longlegs [mailto:scottkruize@e...]
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 12:41 PM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Trip report: Charouleau Gap 8/25
Hello!
We had a great time on Saturday. There was Eddie with his white TJ, Steve
and Dawn in a red YJ, Joey K in his white YJ, and Jake W and myself in my
TJ.
We met at the trailhead at 8:00. Joey, Jake, and myself were late because on
the way Joey lost his clutch. It turns out the cap was missing off the
reservoir. So with a little creative engineering using a washer fluid cap,
tire plugs as a gasket, and some tape and bailing wire he was back on the
road to the trailhead after filling it back up.
Eddie took the lead and we had a great time. Eddie showed some great driving
on the obstacles with his fairly stock TJ with 31’s and LSD’s front and rear
and only needed a high lift once when he got hung up on some rocks. Not bad
considering there is some pretty technical driving required to get a stock
TJ through this trail.
About halfway up the trail when the rocks starting getting bigger the group
let me take the lead so I could run the obstacles and then come back and
spot the others through as required. Thanks to Stu O for giving me a quick
lesson on using my GPS. He had loaded up a track into my GPS before the trip
and I followed the bread crumb trail to the end of the run.
There were a few hill climbs that got some excitement out of the open diffed
guys. I remember Steve hollering on the radio that he picked both front
tires off the ground on one of them though none of us were there to see it
or shoot a photo. Sometimes it’s a lonely job being the tailgunner ;)
There were no problems other than my tranny mount failing. As long as I kept
it in 4wd and kept the RPMs steady the tcase wouldn’t flop around too much.
But on a few of the hillclimbs I thought parts were going to be laying on
the ground.
At the end of the run we all gathered to air up. Joey K took off for Mount
Lemmon to sleep with the bears ;) Eddie and Steve had the short drive back
to Tucson. Jake and myself drove back to my truck at the trailhead, hooked
up the TJ and headed back to Phoenix.
Thanks Eddie and Steve for having us down to Tucson. I had a blast. This is
one trail nobody wants to miss!
Scott K
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30048 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 3:25pm
Subject: RE: To the radio Guru's
Rick.....I am guessing that you have probably not used radios with
repeaters.
If so, then maybe I can fill in some gaps on repeater use. At the
frequencies that GMRS operates at, there has to be a pretty clear path
between you and the repeater. It does not take very much to degraded the
signal to the point where it no longer functions. Having been a ham radio
operator for better than 25 years, I can tell you that there are far more
ham repeaters located on mountain tops than there are GMRS repeaters. And I
can find many, many, many, many locations where the repeaters do not have
any coverage because of the terrain (did I mention just how many locations
there are?).
Using GMRS with a repeater is much like using a cell phone (cell phones use
repeaters too, but they call them cell sites). If you are "out of range",
it is not going to work. And the 5 miles that the GMRS radio can transmit
without the benefit of a repeater won't mean squat in that wash you are
wheelin' in.
Remember.....much of our wheelin' is down in the washes (the lowest piece of
land all the way around you). Very few of us wheel on the top of the
mountain (I am sure some do....I have a few times).
I hope this sheds some light on your question.
Oh....and if you have a GMRS radio, you have to have a license. That crap
about "it is OK to use a radio in an emergency" is a pile of crap, OK? If
you buy the radio and install it, you have to have a license. If you doubt
me, ask the FCC folks for their view on their rules.
Happy trails......Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick's Mail [mailto:ricknhall@h...]
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 2:43 PM
To: AZVJC
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] To the radio Guru's
Okay, now it seems to me that this radio would server a dual purpose. It
has FRS for communicating with others on the trail but also has the ability
to transmit farther via repeaters during an emergency situation. Or is
there something else I am missing. The license is a pain but if it is only
used during an emergency would it be required. Sounds like there are a lot
of unlicensed users. I probably (or should I say hopefully) would never use
the GMRS portion of the radio.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 11:22 AM
To: Rick's Mail; AZVJC
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] To the radio Guru's
The biggest advantage to GMRS is that the radio sevice is authorized for
repeater use. This means the range can be greatly extended by relaying your
signals through radio repeaters that are located on mountain tops which then
greatly increase your range.
The bad parts about GMRS....you need a license and repeaters are usually not
free (ie., you need to pay $$ to support their operation). I personally
don't know of any Jeepers using GMRS in their vehicles....but that doesn't
mean they aren't.
I have CB, FRS, and ham radio in my TJ. For those times when these are not
adequate, I bum a cell phone from a friend (assuming they have coverage).
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick's Mail [mailto:ricknhall@h...]
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 9:48 AM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] To the radio Guru's
What is GMRS (General Mobile Radio Service) and how does it differ from a
CB?. I have an old FRS 2 channel and have been looking for a newer model
since a lot of people are starting to use them (I still prefer a CB
but...when in Rome). I have seen a new radio that has 15 channels 7 of
which are FRS with subcodes the remaining are GMRS. This radio transmits up
to 5 miles and requires a license???
Rick
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30049 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 3:33pm
Subject: Please Delete unless you are the person who had the 4/4 Violin for sale. (obviously off topic)
Hi,
I was going to purchase a 3/4 violin from John Halverson... but I got a call
from my Daughter's violin teacher today and she said 3/4 would be too
small... I went up and looked at 3/4s and indeed, they are too small.
If you still have the 4/4 and you would like to sell it, please send me an
email to arizonajeep@h... AND to joew@a...
Thanks
Joe West
30050 From: Daddy Longlegs <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 3:45pm
Subject: RE: Trip report: Charouleau Gap 8/25
Stu,
I'm not sure whether Joey took a pic of the cap. It was the best we could do
and since Joey was within 15 minutess of the trailhead he opted to run it
that way. Thank goodness he had a couple of extra bottles of fluid.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 3:10 PM
To: Daddy Longlegs; AZVJC
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Trip report: Charouleau Gap 8/25
Scott,
Glad to hear you all made it OK. Did you get any pics of Joey's clutch fix?
Sounds like a pretty good recipe....1 part washer fluid cap, 3 parts tire
plug, 12" of duct tape, etc.....LOL!
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Daddy Longlegs [mailto:scottkruize@e...]
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 12:41 PM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Trip report: Charouleau Gap 8/25
Hello!
We had a great time on Saturday. There was Eddie with his white TJ, Steve
and Dawn in a red YJ, Joey K in his white YJ, and Jake W and myself in my
TJ.
We met at the trailhead at 8:00. Joey, Jake, and myself were late because on
the way Joey lost his clutch. It turns out the cap was missing off the
reservoir. So with a little creative engineering using a washer fluid cap,
tire plugs as a gasket, and some tape and bailing wire he was back on the
road to the trailhead after filling it back up.
Eddie took the lead and we had a great time. Eddie showed some great driving
on the obstacles with his fairly stock TJ with 31's and LSD's front and rear
and only needed a high lift once when he got hung up on some rocks. Not bad
considering there is some pretty technical driving required to get a stock
TJ through this trail.
About halfway up the trail when the rocks starting getting bigger the group
let me take the lead so I could run the obstacles and then come back and
spot the others through as required. Thanks to Stu O for giving me a quick
lesson on using my GPS. He had loaded up a track into my GPS before the trip
and I followed the bread crumb trail to the end of the run.
There were a few hill climbs that got some excitement out of the open diffed
guys. I remember Steve hollering on the radio that he picked both front
tires off the ground on one of them though none of us were there to see it
or shoot a photo. Sometimes it's a lonely job being the tailgunner ;)
There were no problems other than my tranny mount failing. As long as I kept
it in 4wd and kept the RPMs steady the tcase wouldn't flop around too much.
But on a few of the hillclimbs I thought parts were going to be laying on
the ground.
At the end of the run we all gathered to air up. Joey K took off for Mount
Lemmon to sleep with the bears ;) Eddie and Steve had the short drive back
to Tucson. Jake and myself drove back to my truck at the trailhead, hooked
up the TJ and headed back to Phoenix.
Thanks Eddie and Steve for having us down to Tucson. I had a blast. This is
one trail nobody wants to miss!
Scott K
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30051 From: <Kilr650@a...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 11:50am
Subject: Re: Trip report: Charouleau Gap 8/25
Hello all,
This was a great trip! Joey Kulich, Scott Kruize and Jake Wagner drove
down from Phx. Steve & Dawn Sample and myself came from Tucson. The Phx boys
were a little late due to a problen with Joey's clutch resevoir.
This was the first time running this trail for everyone. I have done it
on my motorcycle many times but not in my jeep. We ran it from Catalina to
Oracle (south to north).
I need to thank Scott for helping me lead this trip. Actually everyone
helped make this trip a success. This was only my second trip with AZVJC and
I can't wait to meet more members on the next trip.
Eddie
30052 From: TRobertsRN <TRobertsRN@e...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 3:59pm
Subject: parts
George,
Good to finally meet today. Much thanks for the fan shroud and bonus parts. Always good to hook up with a fellow FSJ er. Also thanks for pointing out the missing duct work in the A/C. Time for me to hit the junk yard again.
Tom
30053 From: <amstaff@e...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 3:58pm
Subject: FOR SALE/TRADE: YJ hard top/full doors
Hi all: Thought I'd throw this out again. Had
a few nibbles last time, but this stuff still
needs a new home.
Factory spice hardtop for YJ. Came from a
95, but will fit all years of YJ (CJs, too, I
believe). Tinted windows, near perfect
condition.
Also have factory full hard doors, tint,
perfect mechanical condition, but will need
to be stripped and repainted. No mirrors.
I'd like $1,000 for everything. Will
consider offers. The hardtop makes a HUGE
difference in comfort over a soft top on the
street. However, since my rig is trail-only
now, I don't really need this stuff and it's
taking up room in my garage.
Will consider full or partial trades for any
of the following items:
-- Dana 60 front, driver's drop.
-- Utility trailer, 8x16, dual axle.
-- Detroit locker for Ford 8.8 rear axle.
Will consider a No Slip/Lockright.
If interested, e-mail me at
amstaff@e... or call
480.460.0399. Have a great day.
Dion
30054 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 11:59am
Subject: Re: [TR] Trip Report - Terminator (Lower) - Saturday, August 25, 2001
What a great run...I could do with out the name calling though hehehe <
grin>
Thanks again to everyone, cant wait to go again.
Sharky
oh yes and the funnoodle mobile
30055 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 5:26pm
Subject: [Tech] ALL - Rocker Protection
Bobberman's Rocker Guards
Build inexpensive rocker protection for your Jeep Wrangler.
by Joey K
www.desertjeep.com
Built by Jake Wagoner, Scott Kruize and Joey K. Scott's Garage and tools.
Jake's pizza and beer and Joey's... err umm... experience and supervision. Jake
had seen mine and others' rocker guards and liked them. I think the most
attractive part of them is the price. All totaled only about 50 bucks or so was
spent for parts and labor (pizza and beverage). The other part that is nice is
they are very durable and virtually indestructible.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Parts Acquired
4"x4"x1/4" angle steel 2 pieces cut to ~52"
each
3/8" carriage bolts of various lengths.
3/8" over sized washers. About an inch in
diameter.
3/8" nylon locking nuts.
3/8" spacers of about 1 1/2" in length.
Paint: 1 can primer and 2 for the finish
coat.
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Prep work begins with cleaning the surface and removing the
bottom screws holding the flairs on. You will need to remove at least two of
the flair screws so the angle steel can be placed under it.
The steel is a 4"x4"x1/4" angle. Here it is painted before
application. I recommend fitting and then painting. On a TJ the sub frame
barely drops below outside edge of the body. We carefully mounted the steel
in place and with a Sharpie marked where to cut.
Scott with skill saw equipped with a steel cutting blade
carefully cut away the unneeded portion.
Here is a view of what was cut away.
Another view from another angle.
Here Scott and "B man" Jake use a floor jack to put the
steel in place. Then measure and guesstimate where to place the holes for
the carriage bolts. Here you need to look on the inside of the tub as to
where the best placement is. you will have some reinforcement that you do
not want to drill through.
When looking for an appropriate placement for the holes make
sure you evenly space them and they cover the length of the guard. It's not
rocket science on the placement just take you time and think it through.
make sure you have space around the hole for the oversized washers.
B Man here is drilling up through the bottom for support.
Again it's not a science just a thought out plan for the placement.
Here is a view of the guard in place and bolted.
B Man opted for four well spaced bolts on the side and four
up through the bottom. He put two up front in the floor boards and two in
the rear just behind the hump from the front seat.
Here is a shot from the back looking forward. Also applied
was a bead of RTV between the tub and the guard. This helps in making it
more secure and keep moister and dirt from getting in. Dirt can be abrasive
to the tub and guard.
Here are the spacers needed to secure the steel to the
bottom of the tub. You can be creative in substituting these spacers. Check
you local ACE or True Value hardware store to see what is available.
Joey Kulich
30056 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 6:27pm
Subject: Re: Re: Consider this gospel...All AZVJC runs are "DRY" by default
First - There are no by-laws - no rules. Any posts from anyone can be no
more than suggestions or personal opinions.
I think we'd all be better off if we just lighten up and drop this issue.
It's been beaten to death.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: <azjeepnut@w...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Consider this gospel...All AZVJC runs are "DRY" by
default
> To me it seems insignificant who started the club and
> what the bylaws of the club are. How can you really
> enforce bylaws for a club like this anyways? Nobody
> pays dues (thank god), you can't really ban somebody
> from throwing one of our stickers on the side of their
> rig, etc...
> The main issue to me is how this will portray us in the
> eyes of the community. There are plenty of people out
> on the trails these days that would just rather see no
> vehicles out on the trails at all. All alcohol on the
> trail does is add fuel to their fire and give them
> another argument on why they should keep people off the
> trails. If you really wanted to keep trails open, you
> would act responsibly, which includes not drinking and
> driving. That's a law, too isn't it? Not to mention
> and open container is illegal, so that makes it illegal
> for passengers to drink also. The chances that you are
> going to run into any cops out on the trail are slim to
> none, but should that matter? And what about the kids
> out on the runs that see the so-called "grown-ups"
> drinking beer and driving their rigs?
> This just seems like something that shouldn't even be an
> issue. Flame away, I just had to speak my peace.
>
> --
> Matt B.
> 94 YJ
> 93 XJ
> http://azjeeps.offroadhq.net
> Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
> > > From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
> > <snip>
> > > What I'm trying to get across to everyone is RESPECT THE WISHES OF THE
> > > FOUNDING MEMBERS OF THIS CLUB. After all, without them, we'd have no
AZVJC.
> > > Like I said, they set down some very simple rules, why can't we abide
by
> > > them? In one of my previous posts, I had joked about starting a new
club
> > > since this one was getting too big for its britches. That was wrong.
What we
> > > need to do is get back to the roots of THIS club. People should not
feel
> > > ashamed to be known as a member of this club and rip the stickers off
their
> > > Jeeps.
> >
> > FWIW, and without regard to the issue at hand, I was around at the
> > beginning of this "unclub" also. With the _possible_ exception of Scott
> > (stress POSSIBLE,) I don't believe any of the founding members would say
> > that what they say goes, and that we all better abide by their wishes.
> > That would totally go against what this all all about to begin with.
> >
> > Anyway, as for the issue at hand, I am in total agreement with alcohol
> > consumption being up to the discretion of the trip leader. I don't have
> > a problem with that either way. I have been on non-AZVJC club runs where
> > alcohol consumption WAS a problem. In every case it had a simple
> > solution. The offender lost his keys, and got to ride as a passenger in
> > his own vehicle for the remainder of the run. We could get away with
> > that in a smaller club where everyone knows each other. I don't think
> > that it would work in AZVJC, which is so widespread. *shrug*
> >
> > Take it easy.
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
>
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>
>
30057 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 6:35pm
Subject: Re: Off Topic Discussions.
Great idea, Mike.
I'm going through about 6 days of e-mail, catching up on stuff, and my DKSFS
is being exacerbated by the number ot OT discussions.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chatfield, Mike" <Mike@A...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; <azvjc_ot@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:41 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Off Topic Discussions.
> Hello All,
>
> I've created a new group to trap Off Topic discussions such as the Laws of
> Thermodynamics, Photons, The Speed of Light, Quantum Physics, etc...
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AzVJC_OT
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AzVJC_OT>
>
> If you are asked, nicely, by member(s) of the AzVJC to please move the
> discussion off-line, feel free to use this new group to continue your
> discussion so that members suffering from DKSFS (Delete Key Sensitive
Finger
> Syndrome) may find relief and others wishing to observe the discussion
> without interacting may do so on the new forum.
>
> The new forum is unlisted (meaning that a search on Yahoo will not find
it)
> and you don't need to be a member of the new forum to post a message. Of
> course, in order to receive e-mails from the new forum you will need to
> join, otherwise you can view the messages online.
>
> I hope this helps keep the clutter for those with DKSFS to a minimum.
>
> Take it easy people, its just a forum... :-)
>
> - Mike
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
30058 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 6:56pm
Subject: Re: My news seats and 5 point harnesses.... ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
How are they upside down. Tested that aspect yet?? :o)
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "JW" <joew@a...>
To: "Azvjc (E-mail)" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 12:11 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] My news seats and 5 point harnesses.... ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
> Well everyone,
>
> I've had a chance to try out my new Mastercraft seats and all I can say
is;
> Incredible!
> The lateral support from them being deeply dished and the adjustable
lumbar
> support make driving the Jeep as comfortable as driving my new
Landcruiser.
>
> I've heard a few negative comments about 5 point harnesses but I can tell
> you that I love mine! The only drawback I can see is how long it takes me
> to put them on... adds an additional minute whenever I go somewhere (they
> disconnect almost as quick as the factory seatbelt).
> They certainly are more restraining when wearing the shoulder harnesses...
> but if you need to reach something quickly, you can just disconnect the
> shoulder harnesses independent of the lap belt. I like the feeling of
being
> held comfortably in the seat... kind of like being strapped into a nice
> cushy amusement ride (which is what my Jeep is for me <grin>).
>
> If anyone is considering adding a 5 point harness... and you are worried
> about the lack of mobility in one; I invite you to come over and try mine
> out first.
> The ride and comfort is absolutely incredible... if you're running an easy
> trail; take the shoulder harness off... if it is a more difficult trail
> where you might roll; slap em on over the high pucker factor stuff and
then
> take them off again.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe West
>
>
************************************************** **************************
> ****************************
> *Some days it just isn't worth the effort to gnaw through the restraints
and
> clamber up out of the pit.*
>
************************************************** **************************
> ****************************
>
>
>
>
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30059 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 7:00pm
Subject: Re: Custom Transfer Case Skid, MasterCraft Seats, and Roll Cage to Frame Mounts
My tranny mount bolts were also exposed. I welded on some round tube stock
to protect them studs and nuts - glad I did - the protection has taken a
beating but the nuts and studs are just fine.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...>
To: "'Daddy Longlegs'" <scottkruize@e...>; "'azvjc (E-mail)'"
<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 5:43 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Custom Transfer Case Skid, MasterCraft Seats, and Roll
Cage to Frame Mounts
> Hi Scott,
>
> No offense taken at all... because of your comments, I may have john weld
> flat plates to the bottom of each tube. The tubes provide me greater
ground
> clearance because there is a whole lot more open space than there was
> before... open space with nothing above it to be damaged... this skid has
> roughly a third of the area of the factory skid, and protects all of the
> vital things; this should result on 2/3s less high centers because of the
> skid.
>
> I believe that you have raised some good points Scott. This being said
> however; don't fault John at Hunter Offroad... this design was purely
mine,
> not his. Don't think anything less of him because he was just doing what
I
> told him to do, and in some cases, tried to talk me out of my design...
but
> I am hard headed and I believe that the extra ground clearance and 2/3s
less
> skid to hang up on will serve me well.
>
> My transmission mounts were exposed before because of the Atlas II
> install... so far I haven't had any problems but once again, I think that
> your idea of protecting them is a good one.
>
> I guess this is all part of being the first to do something new... you do
> the best you can, then you incorporate people's comments to make the
design
> even better. I appreciate your comments and will most likely make a few
> small changes based on them. If I have John weld flat plates to the
bottoms
> of the tubes... I'll take more pictures and show you.
>
> Once again; thanks for the comments.
>
>
> Joe West
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
30060 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 7:05pm
Subject: Re: Re: Marijuana on the trail
Good advise for all.
Doug
> Don't be so quick to jump sometimes, the water isn't so
> deep.
> Frank
>
>
> --- Daddy Longlegs <scottkruize@e...> wrote:
> > This post is in poor taste. It reflects on the
> > character of those that
> > bother to respond.
> >
> >
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Frank and Amanda Zepeda
> > [mailto:zepeda199@y...]
> > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 6:09 AM
> > To: AZ VJC
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Marijuana on the trail
> >
> > MARIJUANA, you mean to say I can't smoke my blunts
> > no
> > more, WELL ok as long as I still have my crack
> > cocaine, and the $2 dollar whore I picked up in
> > Mexico
> > everything will be ok.
> >
> >
> > --- Dan Coley <mt_b@y...> wrote:
> > > Is it ok to sniff permanent markers (the 1" wide
> > > ones), pixie sticks,
> > > smarties, or rubber cement, or.....dang, forgot
> > what
> > > I was talking
> > > about. :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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30061 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 7:12pm
Subject: Re: Metal Cutting
Just use a metal cutting wheel on a circular saw. They're cheap.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Coley" <mt_b@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 11:47 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Metal Cutting
> What's the best tool to cut flat 1/4" plate steel with (longer than a
> few inches)? Plasma cutter or torch or what? Can you rent a tool
> like this, and if so where?
> Thanks
> Dan
>
>
>
>
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>
30062 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 7:15pm
Subject: Re: Brake caliper tool
You can get this at almost any auto parts store. Not as cheap as HF - but
still very cheap.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Fell" <kwfell@y...>
To: "AZVJC List" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 1:21 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Brake caliper tool
> > Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 14:01:55 -0700
> > From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...>
> >Subject: RE: Re: Trying to replace brake pads
> >
> >I use the standard C-clamp... remove the cap from the master cylinder and
> >push the piston back in. You can get a large enough C-clamp from
Autozone
> >for a few dollars.
> >
> >Joe West
>
> FWIW, Harbor Freight has the "tool" for like $4 or something ridiculously
> low.
>
> =Kevin=
>
>
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30063 From: Patrick Green <pgreen@c...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 7:18pm
Subject: Trying again
Ok new test
30039 From: DesertJeep <joey@j...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 0:02pm
Subject: RE: Metal Cutting
And skill saw for a cheap clean cut.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Herring [mailto:herring@q...]
> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 12:36 PM
> To: 'Dan Coley'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Metal Cutting
>
>
> For a clean cut I'd use a cut off wheel.
>
> Eric
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Coley [mailto:mt_b@y...]
> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 11:47 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Metal Cutting
>
>
> What's the best tool to cut flat 1/4" plate steel with (longer than a
> few inches)? Plasma cutter or torch or what? Can you rent a tool
> like this, and if so where?
> Thanks
> Dan
>
>
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30040 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 0:19pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Trip Report - Terminator (Lower) - Saturday, August 25, 2001
Jim,
If you would just get rid of the fenders, you would have that problem.
:) I can do it for ya! haha
--- In az_vjc@y..., AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...> wrote:
>
30041 From: Daddy Longlegs <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 0:41pm
Subject:
30042 From: Daddy Longlegs <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 0:40pm
Subject: Trip report: Charouleau Gap 8/25
Hello!
We had a great time on Saturday. There was Eddie with his white TJ, Steve
and Dawn in a red YJ, Joey K in his white YJ, and Jake W and myself in my
TJ.
We met at the trailhead at 8:00. Joey, Jake, and myself were late because on
the way Joey lost his clutch. It turns out the cap was missing off the
reservoir. So with a little creative engineering using a washer fluid cap,
tire plugs as a gasket, and some tape and bailing wire he was back on the
road to the trailhead after filling it back up.
Eddie took the lead and we had a great time. Eddie showed some great driving
on the obstacles with his fairly stock TJ with 31’s and LSD’s front and rear
and only needed a high lift once when he got hung up on some rocks. Not bad
considering there is some pretty technical driving required to get a stock
TJ through this trail.
About halfway up the trail when the rocks starting getting bigger the group
let me take the lead so I could run the obstacles and then come back and
spot the others through as required. Thanks to Stu O for giving me a quick
lesson on using my GPS. He had loaded up a track into my GPS before the trip
and I followed the bread crumb trail to the end of the run.
There were a few hill climbs that got some excitement out of the open diffed
guys. I remember Steve hollering on the radio that he picked both front
tires off the ground on one of them though none of us were there to see it
or shoot a photo. Sometimes it’s a lonely job being the tailgunner ;)
There were no problems other than my tranny mount failing. As long as I kept
it in 4wd and kept the RPMs steady the tcase wouldn’t flop around too much.
But on a few of the hillclimbs I thought parts were going to be laying on
the ground.
At the end of the run we all gathered to air up. Joey K took off for Mount
Lemmon to sleep with the bears ;) Eddie and Steve had the short drive back
to Tucson. Jake and myself drove back to my truck at the trailhead, hooked
up the TJ and headed back to Phoenix.
Thanks Eddie and Steve for having us down to Tucson. I had a blast. This is
one trail nobody wants to miss!
Scott K
30043 From: Garrison St.Clair <gunslinger@i...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 1:02pm
Subject: Re: To the radio Guru's
Rick,
Here is a source on GMRS:
http://www.gmrsweb.com/gmrs.html
I don't concur with everything said on that website, nor do I endorse all of
the conclusions, but its a good overview.
Hope this helps.
Gunslinger
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick's Mail" <ricknhall@h...>
To: "AZVJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, 26 August, 2001 11:48
Subject: [az_vjc] To the radio Guru's
> What is GMRS (General Mobile Radio Service) and how does it differ from a
> CB?. I have an old FRS 2 channel and have been looking for a newer model
> since a lot of people are starting to use them (I still prefer a CB
> but...when in Rome). I have seen a new radio that has 15 channels 7 of
> which are FRS with subcodes the remaining are GMRS. This radio transmits
up
> to 5 miles and requires a license???
>
30044 From: DesertJeep <joey@j...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 1:56pm
Subject: RE: Trip report: Charouleau Gap 8/25
Good trial report Scott. However... It took longer to get you out the
front door then it did us to repair the missing cap. :) You guys missed
out by not camping. The top of Mt. Lemmon was great. The air was cool
and the view magnificent. Not to mention the drive down. Was it
Sunnyhaven or Winterhaven up there??? Anywhy that is a nice small town
in the pines there.
I will say it was a long and dusty road, like Crown King to I17, up the
the top of Mt. Lemmon. But it is worth it because goin' down the other
side is paved. And good thing too because there are lots of beautiful
vistas.
Scott I will say I am envious of you being able to tow your Jeep in the
comfort of your truck. I will have a tow bar made as the next mod for my
Jeep. (plus check the front caster for safety)
Thanks Eddie for leading the trip and Steve for the enthusiasim.
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daddy Longlegs [mailto:scottkruize@e...]
> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 12:41 PM
> To: AZVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] Trip report: Charouleau Gap 8/25
>
>
> Hello!
>
> We had a great time on Saturday. There was Eddie with his
> white TJ, Steve and Dawn in a red YJ, Joey K in his white YJ,
> and Jake W and myself in my TJ.
>
> We met at the trailhead at 8:00. Joey, Jake, and myself were
> late because on the way Joey lost his clutch. It turns out
> the cap was missing off the reservoir. So with a little
> creative engineering using a washer fluid cap, tire plugs as
> a gasket, and some tape and bailing wire he was back on the
> road to the trailhead after filling it back up.
>
> Eddie took the lead and we had a great time. Eddie showed
> some great driving on the obstacles with his fairly stock TJ
> with 31's and LSD's front and rear and only needed a high
> lift once when he got hung up on some rocks. Not bad
> considering there is some pretty technical driving required
> to get a stock TJ through this trail.
>
> About halfway up the trail when the rocks starting getting
> bigger the group let me take the lead so I could run the
> obstacles and then come back and spot the others through as
> required. Thanks to Stu O for giving me a quick lesson on
> using my GPS. He had loaded up a track into my GPS before the
> trip and I followed the bread crumb trail to the end of the run.
>
> There were a few hill climbs that got some excitement out of
> the open diffed guys. I remember Steve hollering on the radio
> that he picked both front tires off the ground on one of them
> though none of us were there to see it or shoot a photo.
> Sometimes it's a lonely job being the tailgunner ;)
>
> There were no problems other than my tranny mount failing. As
> long as I kept it in 4wd and kept the RPMs steady the tcase
> wouldn't flop around too much. But on a few of the hillclimbs
> I thought parts were going to be laying on the ground.
>
> At the end of the run we all gathered to air up. Joey K took
> off for Mount Lemmon to sleep with the bears ;) Eddie and
> Steve had the short drive back to Tucson. Jake and myself
> drove back to my truck at the trailhead, hooked up the TJ and
> headed back to Phoenix.
>
> Thanks Eddie and Steve for having us down to Tucson. I had a
> blast. This is one trail nobody wants to miss!
>
> Scott K
>
>
>
>
>
>
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30045 From: <FLEXYXJ@a...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 10:10am
Subject: Re: Trying to replace brake pads
Heh, Heh, Heh....you said BLUNT.... Sorry everyone just HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY
HAPPY that I have another jeep.....and scince I have not had an ISP for about
5 days I open my mail to 735 e-mails starting with beer and ending with
pot....hmmm I guess I am getting old..LETS JEEP!!!!
FlexyXJ (one again a man!!!!!)
30046 From: Rick's Mail <ricknhall@h...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 2:43pm
Subject: RE: To the radio Guru's
Okay, now it seems to me that this radio would server a dual purpose. It
has FRS for communicating with others on the trail but also has the ability
to transmit farther via repeaters during an emergency situation. Or is
there something else I am missing. The license is a pain but if it is only
used during an emergency would it be required. Sounds like there are a lot
of unlicensed users. I probably (or should I say hopefully) would never use
the GMRS portion of the radio.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 11:22 AM
To: Rick's Mail; AZVJC
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] To the radio Guru's
The biggest advantage to GMRS is that the radio sevice is authorized for
repeater use. This means the range can be greatly extended by relaying your
signals through radio repeaters that are located on mountain tops which then
greatly increase your range.
The bad parts about GMRS....you need a license and repeaters are usually not
free (ie., you need to pay $$ to support their operation). I personally
don't know of any Jeepers using GMRS in their vehicles....but that doesn't
mean they aren't.
I have CB, FRS, and ham radio in my TJ. For those times when these are not
adequate, I bum a cell phone from a friend (assuming they have coverage).
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick's Mail [mailto:ricknhall@h...]
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 9:48 AM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] To the radio Guru's
What is GMRS (General Mobile Radio Service) and how does it differ from a
CB?. I have an old FRS 2 channel and have been looking for a newer model
since a lot of people are starting to use them (I still prefer a CB
but...when in Rome). I have seen a new radio that has 15 channels 7 of
which are FRS with subcodes the remaining are GMRS. This radio transmits up
to 5 miles and requires a license???
Rick
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30047 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 3:10pm
Subject: RE: Trip report: Charouleau Gap 8/25
Scott,
Glad to hear you all made it OK. Did you get any pics of Joey's clutch fix?
Sounds like a pretty good recipe....1 part washer fluid cap, 3 parts tire
plug, 12" of duct tape, etc.....LOL!
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Daddy Longlegs [mailto:scottkruize@e...]
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 12:41 PM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Trip report: Charouleau Gap 8/25
Hello!
We had a great time on Saturday. There was Eddie with his white TJ, Steve
and Dawn in a red YJ, Joey K in his white YJ, and Jake W and myself in my
TJ.
We met at the trailhead at 8:00. Joey, Jake, and myself were late because on
the way Joey lost his clutch. It turns out the cap was missing off the
reservoir. So with a little creative engineering using a washer fluid cap,
tire plugs as a gasket, and some tape and bailing wire he was back on the
road to the trailhead after filling it back up.
Eddie took the lead and we had a great time. Eddie showed some great driving
on the obstacles with his fairly stock TJ with 31’s and LSD’s front and rear
and only needed a high lift once when he got hung up on some rocks. Not bad
considering there is some pretty technical driving required to get a stock
TJ through this trail.
About halfway up the trail when the rocks starting getting bigger the group
let me take the lead so I could run the obstacles and then come back and
spot the others through as required. Thanks to Stu O for giving me a quick
lesson on using my GPS. He had loaded up a track into my GPS before the trip
and I followed the bread crumb trail to the end of the run.
There were a few hill climbs that got some excitement out of the open diffed
guys. I remember Steve hollering on the radio that he picked both front
tires off the ground on one of them though none of us were there to see it
or shoot a photo. Sometimes it’s a lonely job being the tailgunner ;)
There were no problems other than my tranny mount failing. As long as I kept
it in 4wd and kept the RPMs steady the tcase wouldn’t flop around too much.
But on a few of the hillclimbs I thought parts were going to be laying on
the ground.
At the end of the run we all gathered to air up. Joey K took off for Mount
Lemmon to sleep with the bears ;) Eddie and Steve had the short drive back
to Tucson. Jake and myself drove back to my truck at the trailhead, hooked
up the TJ and headed back to Phoenix.
Thanks Eddie and Steve for having us down to Tucson. I had a blast. This is
one trail nobody wants to miss!
Scott K
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30048 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 3:25pm
Subject: RE: To the radio Guru's
Rick.....I am guessing that you have probably not used radios with
repeaters.
If so, then maybe I can fill in some gaps on repeater use. At the
frequencies that GMRS operates at, there has to be a pretty clear path
between you and the repeater. It does not take very much to degraded the
signal to the point where it no longer functions. Having been a ham radio
operator for better than 25 years, I can tell you that there are far more
ham repeaters located on mountain tops than there are GMRS repeaters. And I
can find many, many, many, many locations where the repeaters do not have
any coverage because of the terrain (did I mention just how many locations
there are?).
Using GMRS with a repeater is much like using a cell phone (cell phones use
repeaters too, but they call them cell sites). If you are "out of range",
it is not going to work. And the 5 miles that the GMRS radio can transmit
without the benefit of a repeater won't mean squat in that wash you are
wheelin' in.
Remember.....much of our wheelin' is down in the washes (the lowest piece of
land all the way around you). Very few of us wheel on the top of the
mountain (I am sure some do....I have a few times).
I hope this sheds some light on your question.
Oh....and if you have a GMRS radio, you have to have a license. That crap
about "it is OK to use a radio in an emergency" is a pile of crap, OK? If
you buy the radio and install it, you have to have a license. If you doubt
me, ask the FCC folks for their view on their rules.
Happy trails......Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick's Mail [mailto:ricknhall@h...]
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 2:43 PM
To: AZVJC
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] To the radio Guru's
Okay, now it seems to me that this radio would server a dual purpose. It
has FRS for communicating with others on the trail but also has the ability
to transmit farther via repeaters during an emergency situation. Or is
there something else I am missing. The license is a pain but if it is only
used during an emergency would it be required. Sounds like there are a lot
of unlicensed users. I probably (or should I say hopefully) would never use
the GMRS portion of the radio.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 11:22 AM
To: Rick's Mail; AZVJC
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] To the radio Guru's
The biggest advantage to GMRS is that the radio sevice is authorized for
repeater use. This means the range can be greatly extended by relaying your
signals through radio repeaters that are located on mountain tops which then
greatly increase your range.
The bad parts about GMRS....you need a license and repeaters are usually not
free (ie., you need to pay $$ to support their operation). I personally
don't know of any Jeepers using GMRS in their vehicles....but that doesn't
mean they aren't.
I have CB, FRS, and ham radio in my TJ. For those times when these are not
adequate, I bum a cell phone from a friend (assuming they have coverage).
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick's Mail [mailto:ricknhall@h...]
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 9:48 AM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] To the radio Guru's
What is GMRS (General Mobile Radio Service) and how does it differ from a
CB?. I have an old FRS 2 channel and have been looking for a newer model
since a lot of people are starting to use them (I still prefer a CB
but...when in Rome). I have seen a new radio that has 15 channels 7 of
which are FRS with subcodes the remaining are GMRS. This radio transmits up
to 5 miles and requires a license???
Rick
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30049 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 3:33pm
Subject: Please Delete unless you are the person who had the 4/4 Violin for sale. (obviously off topic)
Hi,
I was going to purchase a 3/4 violin from John Halverson... but I got a call
from my Daughter's violin teacher today and she said 3/4 would be too
small... I went up and looked at 3/4s and indeed, they are too small.
If you still have the 4/4 and you would like to sell it, please send me an
email to arizonajeep@h... AND to joew@a...
Thanks
Joe West
30050 From: Daddy Longlegs <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 3:45pm
Subject: RE: Trip report: Charouleau Gap 8/25
Stu,
I'm not sure whether Joey took a pic of the cap. It was the best we could do
and since Joey was within 15 minutess of the trailhead he opted to run it
that way. Thank goodness he had a couple of extra bottles of fluid.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 3:10 PM
To: Daddy Longlegs; AZVJC
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Trip report: Charouleau Gap 8/25
Scott,
Glad to hear you all made it OK. Did you get any pics of Joey's clutch fix?
Sounds like a pretty good recipe....1 part washer fluid cap, 3 parts tire
plug, 12" of duct tape, etc.....LOL!
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Daddy Longlegs [mailto:scottkruize@e...]
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 12:41 PM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Trip report: Charouleau Gap 8/25
Hello!
We had a great time on Saturday. There was Eddie with his white TJ, Steve
and Dawn in a red YJ, Joey K in his white YJ, and Jake W and myself in my
TJ.
We met at the trailhead at 8:00. Joey, Jake, and myself were late because on
the way Joey lost his clutch. It turns out the cap was missing off the
reservoir. So with a little creative engineering using a washer fluid cap,
tire plugs as a gasket, and some tape and bailing wire he was back on the
road to the trailhead after filling it back up.
Eddie took the lead and we had a great time. Eddie showed some great driving
on the obstacles with his fairly stock TJ with 31's and LSD's front and rear
and only needed a high lift once when he got hung up on some rocks. Not bad
considering there is some pretty technical driving required to get a stock
TJ through this trail.
About halfway up the trail when the rocks starting getting bigger the group
let me take the lead so I could run the obstacles and then come back and
spot the others through as required. Thanks to Stu O for giving me a quick
lesson on using my GPS. He had loaded up a track into my GPS before the trip
and I followed the bread crumb trail to the end of the run.
There were a few hill climbs that got some excitement out of the open diffed
guys. I remember Steve hollering on the radio that he picked both front
tires off the ground on one of them though none of us were there to see it
or shoot a photo. Sometimes it's a lonely job being the tailgunner ;)
There were no problems other than my tranny mount failing. As long as I kept
it in 4wd and kept the RPMs steady the tcase wouldn't flop around too much.
But on a few of the hillclimbs I thought parts were going to be laying on
the ground.
At the end of the run we all gathered to air up. Joey K took off for Mount
Lemmon to sleep with the bears ;) Eddie and Steve had the short drive back
to Tucson. Jake and myself drove back to my truck at the trailhead, hooked
up the TJ and headed back to Phoenix.
Thanks Eddie and Steve for having us down to Tucson. I had a blast. This is
one trail nobody wants to miss!
Scott K
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30051 From: <Kilr650@a...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 11:50am
Subject: Re: Trip report: Charouleau Gap 8/25
Hello all,
This was a great trip! Joey Kulich, Scott Kruize and Jake Wagner drove
down from Phx. Steve & Dawn Sample and myself came from Tucson. The Phx boys
were a little late due to a problen with Joey's clutch resevoir.
This was the first time running this trail for everyone. I have done it
on my motorcycle many times but not in my jeep. We ran it from Catalina to
Oracle (south to north).
I need to thank Scott for helping me lead this trip. Actually everyone
helped make this trip a success. This was only my second trip with AZVJC and
I can't wait to meet more members on the next trip.
Eddie
30052 From: TRobertsRN <TRobertsRN@e...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 3:59pm
Subject: parts
George,
Good to finally meet today. Much thanks for the fan shroud and bonus parts. Always good to hook up with a fellow FSJ er. Also thanks for pointing out the missing duct work in the A/C. Time for me to hit the junk yard again.
Tom
30053 From: <amstaff@e...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 3:58pm
Subject: FOR SALE/TRADE: YJ hard top/full doors
Hi all: Thought I'd throw this out again. Had
a few nibbles last time, but this stuff still
needs a new home.
Factory spice hardtop for YJ. Came from a
95, but will fit all years of YJ (CJs, too, I
believe). Tinted windows, near perfect
condition.
Also have factory full hard doors, tint,
perfect mechanical condition, but will need
to be stripped and repainted. No mirrors.
I'd like $1,000 for everything. Will
consider offers. The hardtop makes a HUGE
difference in comfort over a soft top on the
street. However, since my rig is trail-only
now, I don't really need this stuff and it's
taking up room in my garage.
Will consider full or partial trades for any
of the following items:
-- Dana 60 front, driver's drop.
-- Utility trailer, 8x16, dual axle.
-- Detroit locker for Ford 8.8 rear axle.
Will consider a No Slip/Lockright.
If interested, e-mail me at
amstaff@e... or call
480.460.0399. Have a great day.
Dion
30054 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 11:59am
Subject: Re: [TR] Trip Report - Terminator (Lower) - Saturday, August 25, 2001
What a great run...I could do with out the name calling though hehehe <
grin>
Thanks again to everyone, cant wait to go again.
Sharky
oh yes and the funnoodle mobile
30055 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 5:26pm
Subject: [Tech] ALL - Rocker Protection
Bobberman's Rocker Guards
Build inexpensive rocker protection for your Jeep Wrangler.
by Joey K
www.desertjeep.com
Built by Jake Wagoner, Scott Kruize and Joey K. Scott's Garage and tools.
Jake's pizza and beer and Joey's... err umm... experience and supervision. Jake
had seen mine and others' rocker guards and liked them. I think the most
attractive part of them is the price. All totaled only about 50 bucks or so was
spent for parts and labor (pizza and beverage). The other part that is nice is
they are very durable and virtually indestructible.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Parts Acquired
4"x4"x1/4" angle steel 2 pieces cut to ~52"
each
3/8" carriage bolts of various lengths.
3/8" over sized washers. About an inch in
diameter.
3/8" nylon locking nuts.
3/8" spacers of about 1 1/2" in length.
Paint: 1 can primer and 2 for the finish
coat.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Prep work begins with cleaning the surface and removing the
bottom screws holding the flairs on. You will need to remove at least two of
the flair screws so the angle steel can be placed under it.
The steel is a 4"x4"x1/4" angle. Here it is painted before
application. I recommend fitting and then painting. On a TJ the sub frame
barely drops below outside edge of the body. We carefully mounted the steel
in place and with a Sharpie marked where to cut.
Scott with skill saw equipped with a steel cutting blade
carefully cut away the unneeded portion.
Here is a view of what was cut away.
Another view from another angle.
Here Scott and "B man" Jake use a floor jack to put the
steel in place. Then measure and guesstimate where to place the holes for
the carriage bolts. Here you need to look on the inside of the tub as to
where the best placement is. you will have some reinforcement that you do
not want to drill through.
When looking for an appropriate placement for the holes make
sure you evenly space them and they cover the length of the guard. It's not
rocket science on the placement just take you time and think it through.
make sure you have space around the hole for the oversized washers.
B Man here is drilling up through the bottom for support.
Again it's not a science just a thought out plan for the placement.
Here is a view of the guard in place and bolted.
B Man opted for four well spaced bolts on the side and four
up through the bottom. He put two up front in the floor boards and two in
the rear just behind the hump from the front seat.
Here is a shot from the back looking forward. Also applied
was a bead of RTV between the tub and the guard. This helps in making it
more secure and keep moister and dirt from getting in. Dirt can be abrasive
to the tub and guard.
Here are the spacers needed to secure the steel to the
bottom of the tub. You can be creative in substituting these spacers. Check
you local ACE or True Value hardware store to see what is available.
Joey Kulich
30056 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 6:27pm
Subject: Re: Re: Consider this gospel...All AZVJC runs are "DRY" by default
First - There are no by-laws - no rules. Any posts from anyone can be no
more than suggestions or personal opinions.
I think we'd all be better off if we just lighten up and drop this issue.
It's been beaten to death.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: <azjeepnut@w...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Consider this gospel...All AZVJC runs are "DRY" by
default
> To me it seems insignificant who started the club and
> what the bylaws of the club are. How can you really
> enforce bylaws for a club like this anyways? Nobody
> pays dues (thank god), you can't really ban somebody
> from throwing one of our stickers on the side of their
> rig, etc...
> The main issue to me is how this will portray us in the
> eyes of the community. There are plenty of people out
> on the trails these days that would just rather see no
> vehicles out on the trails at all. All alcohol on the
> trail does is add fuel to their fire and give them
> another argument on why they should keep people off the
> trails. If you really wanted to keep trails open, you
> would act responsibly, which includes not drinking and
> driving. That's a law, too isn't it? Not to mention
> and open container is illegal, so that makes it illegal
> for passengers to drink also. The chances that you are
> going to run into any cops out on the trail are slim to
> none, but should that matter? And what about the kids
> out on the runs that see the so-called "grown-ups"
> drinking beer and driving their rigs?
> This just seems like something that shouldn't even be an
> issue. Flame away, I just had to speak my peace.
>
> --
> Matt B.
> 94 YJ
> 93 XJ
> http://azjeeps.offroadhq.net
> Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
> > > From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
> > <snip>
> > > What I'm trying to get across to everyone is RESPECT THE WISHES OF THE
> > > FOUNDING MEMBERS OF THIS CLUB. After all, without them, we'd have no
AZVJC.
> > > Like I said, they set down some very simple rules, why can't we abide
by
> > > them? In one of my previous posts, I had joked about starting a new
club
> > > since this one was getting too big for its britches. That was wrong.
What we
> > > need to do is get back to the roots of THIS club. People should not
feel
> > > ashamed to be known as a member of this club and rip the stickers off
their
> > > Jeeps.
> >
> > FWIW, and without regard to the issue at hand, I was around at the
> > beginning of this "unclub" also. With the _possible_ exception of Scott
> > (stress POSSIBLE,) I don't believe any of the founding members would say
> > that what they say goes, and that we all better abide by their wishes.
> > That would totally go against what this all all about to begin with.
> >
> > Anyway, as for the issue at hand, I am in total agreement with alcohol
> > consumption being up to the discretion of the trip leader. I don't have
> > a problem with that either way. I have been on non-AZVJC club runs where
> > alcohol consumption WAS a problem. In every case it had a simple
> > solution. The offender lost his keys, and got to ride as a passenger in
> > his own vehicle for the remainder of the run. We could get away with
> > that in a smaller club where everyone knows each other. I don't think
> > that it would work in AZVJC, which is so widespread. *shrug*
> >
> > Take it easy.
> >
> >
> >
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>
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30057 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 6:35pm
Subject: Re: Off Topic Discussions.
Great idea, Mike.
I'm going through about 6 days of e-mail, catching up on stuff, and my DKSFS
is being exacerbated by the number ot OT discussions.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chatfield, Mike" <Mike@A...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; <azvjc_ot@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:41 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Off Topic Discussions.
> Hello All,
>
> I've created a new group to trap Off Topic discussions such as the Laws of
> Thermodynamics, Photons, The Speed of Light, Quantum Physics, etc...
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AzVJC_OT
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AzVJC_OT>
>
> If you are asked, nicely, by member(s) of the AzVJC to please move the
> discussion off-line, feel free to use this new group to continue your
> discussion so that members suffering from DKSFS (Delete Key Sensitive
Finger
> Syndrome) may find relief and others wishing to observe the discussion
> without interacting may do so on the new forum.
>
> The new forum is unlisted (meaning that a search on Yahoo will not find
it)
> and you don't need to be a member of the new forum to post a message. Of
> course, in order to receive e-mails from the new forum you will need to
> join, otherwise you can view the messages online.
>
> I hope this helps keep the clutter for those with DKSFS to a minimum.
>
> Take it easy people, its just a forum... :-)
>
> - Mike
>
>
>
>
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30058 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 6:56pm
Subject: Re: My news seats and 5 point harnesses.... ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
How are they upside down. Tested that aspect yet?? :o)
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "JW" <joew@a...>
To: "Azvjc (E-mail)" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 12:11 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] My news seats and 5 point harnesses.... ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
> Well everyone,
>
> I've had a chance to try out my new Mastercraft seats and all I can say
is;
> Incredible!
> The lateral support from them being deeply dished and the adjustable
lumbar
> support make driving the Jeep as comfortable as driving my new
Landcruiser.
>
> I've heard a few negative comments about 5 point harnesses but I can tell
> you that I love mine! The only drawback I can see is how long it takes me
> to put them on... adds an additional minute whenever I go somewhere (they
> disconnect almost as quick as the factory seatbelt).
> They certainly are more restraining when wearing the shoulder harnesses...
> but if you need to reach something quickly, you can just disconnect the
> shoulder harnesses independent of the lap belt. I like the feeling of
being
> held comfortably in the seat... kind of like being strapped into a nice
> cushy amusement ride (which is what my Jeep is for me <grin>).
>
> If anyone is considering adding a 5 point harness... and you are worried
> about the lack of mobility in one; I invite you to come over and try mine
> out first.
> The ride and comfort is absolutely incredible... if you're running an easy
> trail; take the shoulder harness off... if it is a more difficult trail
> where you might roll; slap em on over the high pucker factor stuff and
then
> take them off again.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe West
>
>
************************************************** **************************
> ****************************
> *Some days it just isn't worth the effort to gnaw through the restraints
and
> clamber up out of the pit.*
>
************************************************** **************************
> ****************************
>
>
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30059 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 7:00pm
Subject: Re: Custom Transfer Case Skid, MasterCraft Seats, and Roll Cage to Frame Mounts
My tranny mount bolts were also exposed. I welded on some round tube stock
to protect them studs and nuts - glad I did - the protection has taken a
beating but the nuts and studs are just fine.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...>
To: "'Daddy Longlegs'" <scottkruize@e...>; "'azvjc (E-mail)'"
<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 5:43 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Custom Transfer Case Skid, MasterCraft Seats, and Roll
Cage to Frame Mounts
> Hi Scott,
>
> No offense taken at all... because of your comments, I may have john weld
> flat plates to the bottom of each tube. The tubes provide me greater
ground
> clearance because there is a whole lot more open space than there was
> before... open space with nothing above it to be damaged... this skid has
> roughly a third of the area of the factory skid, and protects all of the
> vital things; this should result on 2/3s less high centers because of the
> skid.
>
> I believe that you have raised some good points Scott. This being said
> however; don't fault John at Hunter Offroad... this design was purely
mine,
> not his. Don't think anything less of him because he was just doing what
I
> told him to do, and in some cases, tried to talk me out of my design...
but
> I am hard headed and I believe that the extra ground clearance and 2/3s
less
> skid to hang up on will serve me well.
>
> My transmission mounts were exposed before because of the Atlas II
> install... so far I haven't had any problems but once again, I think that
> your idea of protecting them is a good one.
>
> I guess this is all part of being the first to do something new... you do
> the best you can, then you incorporate people's comments to make the
design
> even better. I appreciate your comments and will most likely make a few
> small changes based on them. If I have John weld flat plates to the
bottoms
> of the tubes... I'll take more pictures and show you.
>
> Once again; thanks for the comments.
>
>
> Joe West
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
30060 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 7:05pm
Subject: Re: Re: Marijuana on the trail
Good advise for all.
Doug
> Don't be so quick to jump sometimes, the water isn't so
> deep.
> Frank
>
>
> --- Daddy Longlegs <scottkruize@e...> wrote:
> > This post is in poor taste. It reflects on the
> > character of those that
> > bother to respond.
> >
> >
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Frank and Amanda Zepeda
> > [mailto:zepeda199@y...]
> > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 6:09 AM
> > To: AZ VJC
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Marijuana on the trail
> >
> > MARIJUANA, you mean to say I can't smoke my blunts
> > no
> > more, WELL ok as long as I still have my crack
> > cocaine, and the $2 dollar whore I picked up in
> > Mexico
> > everything will be ok.
> >
> >
> > --- Dan Coley <mt_b@y...> wrote:
> > > Is it ok to sniff permanent markers (the 1" wide
> > > ones), pixie sticks,
> > > smarties, or rubber cement, or.....dang, forgot
> > what
> > > I was talking
> > > about. :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
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30061 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 7:12pm
Subject: Re: Metal Cutting
Just use a metal cutting wheel on a circular saw. They're cheap.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Coley" <mt_b@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 11:47 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Metal Cutting
> What's the best tool to cut flat 1/4" plate steel with (longer than a
> few inches)? Plasma cutter or torch or what? Can you rent a tool
> like this, and if so where?
> Thanks
> Dan
>
>
>
>
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30062 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 7:15pm
Subject: Re: Brake caliper tool
You can get this at almost any auto parts store. Not as cheap as HF - but
still very cheap.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Fell" <kwfell@y...>
To: "AZVJC List" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 1:21 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Brake caliper tool
> > Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 14:01:55 -0700
> > From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...>
> >Subject: RE: Re: Trying to replace brake pads
> >
> >I use the standard C-clamp... remove the cap from the master cylinder and
> >push the piston back in. You can get a large enough C-clamp from
Autozone
> >for a few dollars.
> >
> >Joe West
>
> FWIW, Harbor Freight has the "tool" for like $4 or something ridiculously
> low.
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> =Kevin=
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30063 From: Patrick Green <pgreen@c...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2001 7:18pm
Subject: Trying again
Ok new test