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JamesT
01-01-2004, 11:28 AM
I noticed the was someone looking for a body lift. You might want to check out what I did for my project.

Body Lift (http://members.cox.net/rockncj/Body_Lift/)

FlexyXJ
01-01-2004, 08:32 PM
HOLY BOOTY FAB BATMAN!!!!!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek: Yeah I guess it works but.....damn....will the russian pucks work on my XJ...I want to fit 37's......


Joe

blackeyedt
01-02-2004, 06:16 AM
I've been thinking about doing this lift for quite a while and putting a steel bushing in the puck makes sense but shouldn't it be a "hair" shorter than the thickness of the puck, maybe 1/8" or so? Also, what is the order to put them in and do you just remove all eleven bolts first and start jacking? I'm worrying about knocking something out of line and not being able to get a bolt in ? does this become a problem ?

Thx, Bob J

JamesT
01-02-2004, 06:36 AM
You can grind down the bushings if you want. I believe where the bolt pad is, is not on the same plane (sits lower/higher) as where the body pad is. So I am not sure you would gain anything.

As far as order of operation, you can loosen one side, almost to the point of falling out, then remove the other side to lift and install the pucks. Don't lift too far up and not too fast and you should be fine. To lift, I just used about a 36" 4x4 between the highlift and the body, the jack position is someplace between the rear wheel well and the door jam, you should get a feeling for what feels stable.

blackeyedt
01-04-2004, 06:53 AM
Thanks, I'm going to do this as soon as I get time & pucks !!

Turtle
01-04-2004, 11:46 AM
Another suggestion, I used 1.75" Aluminum round stock. I picked up a 2.5 feet of it at Interstate Steel and the total was like $23. I then just cut it into 1" pieces and drilled it out. If you go this route you can cut it in whatever length you would like. Works great for me and I did not have to sleeve the holes. So far it has been great.

Justin Olson

Linda
01-05-2004, 10:43 AM
James,

Do you know the hardness of the hockey pucks at room temp? All the rubber bushing material I have found so far has been around 80A using a Shore Durometer. I am looking for something closesr to 50A.

Thanks,

Lt. Dan
01-05-2004, 11:06 AM
booty fab

teh
01-05-2004, 01:14 PM
They will crack, fail, and fall out. Been there, seen it. Remember, I came from the land of ultimate booty fab. If it shouldn't have been on a road going vehicle, I've seen it on one, and seen it fail.

bubba
01-05-2004, 03:00 PM
yeah, that's just wrong...maybe a good idea when you could never find parts for vehicles, but now BL's are everywhere.

blackeyedt
01-08-2004, 06:05 AM
Yeah, That's what I was worried about, Cracking and falling apart, I wasn't worried about saving the diff between pucks and a "real" body lift...just thought it would be interesting... I guess when I want to do it, I'll use vehicle parts instead of sports equipment !! Thx.

Antman
01-08-2004, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by teh
They will crack, fail, and fall out. Been there, seen it. Remember, I came from the land of ultimate booty fab. If it shouldn't have been on a road going vehicle, I've seen it on one, and seen it fail.

Sorry to disagree, but I have had a Hockey puck lift on my TJ for over 2 years without any sign of cracking or collapsing.......

JamesT
01-08-2004, 09:11 PM
The critisism on this thread is nothing more than people believing in rumors. I would bet the same people that critisied this mod are either the same ones that went out and bought gas last night in the Phoenix area because of the gas pipeline breaking or owners of XJ/ZJ's. There are plenty of people that have done this mod and have had good results. Everyone that has had negative feedback here has either never tried it or heard a "friend of a friend" had bad luck with it. Tell me did your "friend of a friend" put metal bushings in the pucks?

There are better ways of doing stuff than buying over the counter kits. You all ought to get over it. Think outside of the box and stop giving corporate America your spare change.

Linda, I am not sure what the hardness of the pucks are. You might be able to do a little research and find out. I know they are harder than anything Daystar manufactures. Vulcanized rubber is definately harder than urethane.

Linda
01-09-2004, 08:37 AM
Hi James,

I did a little research and found that the pucks are close to 80A at room temperature which definitely makes them harder than most of the polyurethane body bushings sold. They may be good for body lift material, but not for bushing replacements.

I looked in the McMaster-Carr catalog and they sell rubber lengths in the hardness I am looking for, except the price is way high. The old wagon has 15 body mounts so I would need at least 18" of material. I learned that CJs (at least up to 1976) used the type of body bushings I am looking for. Perhaps the local Jeep dealership parts departments still carry these...

I don't want to use poly bushings on the wagon.

Keith Haw
01-09-2004, 09:11 AM
Another option. I've heard of is rubber boat rollers. The kind used on boat trailers. They"re hard rubber and already have the hole drilled in them. Just cut to lengh.
Keith

Linda
01-09-2004, 09:22 AM
Hi Keith,

I checked into this. I contacted B&M Mfg/Moeller Marine-Carlyle, a company that makes boat trailer rollers. Their product is just as hard as the hockey pucks. So the search continues.

However, if you are looking for a local source for boat trailer rubber, the company recommended Marine Wholesale - Phoenix, AZ., ph #602/243/5885.