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25806 From: Clint Ramsey <cwramsey@t...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2001 8:51pm
Subject: Re: [Q] Modification mistakes....
I read an article in some magazine where they tested the stock airbox with a
K&N and the insulating tape against several after market systems and the
stock box with the tape won.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris R. <my1stjeep@e...>
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, June 21, 2001 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] [Q] Modification mistakes....
>Turbo City Air Intake: It is a metal tube which retains the heat from the
>engine and heats up the air heading into the throttle body. After
>installing it there was a test that was performed that tested a similar
>metal intake with a K&N to a stock intake to a stock intake with a K&N
>replacement. The stock set up with a K&N installed and the restrictor on
>the end removed gave the best overall performance gains, then the Metal
>intake tube came in second.
>
>I heard that Turbo City now makes a Plastic one, the one problem they still
>have not overcome is that it ends above the engine, where the stock one
ends
>at the front where cooler air can be taken in.
>
>I do have better performance when the overall air temps outside are cooler
>and first thing in the morning, but on the ride home in the heat coupled
>with the engine heat and it does not perform nearly as well. There is an
>exhaust tape(looks like gauze) that I am going to wrap around it to attempt
>to insulate the tube. When used on headers it is to keep the heat in and
>make it exit through the exhaust, so I am hoping it will work to keep the
>heat off the metal tube and keep the tube cooler.
>
>Save the money and just install a K&N in the stock box or just add a cone
>intake where the box is at. I know the Airaid one puts it where the stock
>box is, but the overall price of $199 is outrageous for a 90 degree elbow
>and a K&N filter.
>
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25807 From: Daddy Longlegs <osmtj@y...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2001 9:03pm
Subject: RE: new decal 2
I like the new "non-juvenile" version. Looks good! I'm still running the very first batch of stickers and won't be changing them. I figure they are classics by now :)
Jon, It would sure be nice to get some AZVJC license plate frames. That way I could put something on the daily driver. Just a thought....
Scott
Larry Farquhar wrote:
Double IMHO - yes, it's good! Thanks for considering my opinion. But I'm only one member and Joe is only one member. What's everyone else think? I'll probably keep my existing decals anyway.
Larry Farquhar
2001 TJ - "Wyle E"
www.azjeeper.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Loveless [mailto:jonloveless@mindspring.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 4:53 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] new decal 2
Ok, Joe (and others) I removed the (sniff) juvenile 'we rock' and I also made the bottom text a bit larger. Better??
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25808 From: Daryl Faust <louddog71@y...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2001 9:06pm
Subject: RE: TJ Driveline ?
Having been a Engineer in aluminum casting, I can say
I may be an expert on this. Sorry if this is late or
it's already been answered but here's my $.02
If it's "mold marks," what it is are cracks in the die
that made the part, and it would show up on every part
made from that die, thus it would be a common problem.
If it is from a die crack it will be raised or a
ledge. Typically they will try to squeeze as many
parts out of a die as possible and cracks are not
really a big issue in a die unless you ate making
cosmetic parts.
If what you see is a swirl, or an actual crevace, it
is a defect and should be replaced. This is caused
when two cold (relatively because it's about 1100
degrees) fronts of aluminum come together in a die and
solidify next to each other without fully bonding...
This is bad and will eventually break, but parts like
that usually will not get very far down a production
line.
--- Joe W <arizonajeep@h...> wrote:
> My guess is that Chris is correct... and the marks
> are just remnants of the
> cooling process of aluminum. My Atlas II and my old
> NP231 both have casting
> marks which I swear, look exactly like cracks. one
> good way to tell the
> difference is to sand them lightly and see if they
> disappear. If they do,
> and you can't see a fine crack; it is a casting
> mark.
>
> Joe West
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:32 AM
> > To: Dan Coley; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] TJ Driveline ?
> >
> >
> > Are you sure the marks on the tcase are not just
> mold marks. I seem to
> > remember a big debate about this many months ago
> on the Jeeps
> > Unlimited BB.
> > Someone thought their tcase was cracking and they
> all finally
> > agreed that
> > they were just mold marks. They looked like
> cracks, but
> > someone that worked
> > for New Process chimed in that many look like
> this. Final result: mold
> > marks. Not from where 2 molds come together, but
> just marks
> > in the mold
> > itself.
> > Maybe the "rolling rocks" sound is the catalytic
> converter. I
> > have read
> > several places that when the cat goes out it
> sounds like
> > marbles bouncing
> > around in a tin can.
> >
> > Chris K
> >
> > > From: "Dan Coley" <mt_b@y...>
> > > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:21:27 -0000
> > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] TJ Driveline ?
> > >
> > > When replacing the U-joints in the rear of my TJ
> last night
> > I noticed
> > > the tail cone was cracking all around the
> bottom. What type of
> > > internal damage can this be doing to my t-case?
> I'm not intimatley
> > > familiar (should anyone REALLY be) with my
> t-case, so I don't know
> > > the exact positions of the inner workings at the
> output shaft.
> > >
> > > I do know that if I get off the power at any
> speed of 50mph, let the
> > > jeep coast, I have a lot of noise coming from
> under the
> > jeep, towards
> > > the rear It sounds rocks being tossed around in
> a metal bucket, but
> > > there isn't any vibrations at all. I have no
> vibrations or noise
> > > under acceleration or cruising at one speed,
> ONLY when the jeep is
> > > slowing down, in other words when there is no
> power being applied.
> > >
> > > Changed the U-joints last night so everything is
> snug.
> > > Could their also be an issue at the pinion?
> > >
> > > I know I need an SYE/DS, but that is still about
> 2 months away.
> > >
> > > Specs:
> > > 2000TJ
> > > 5spd
> > > 3in Tera lift
> > > 4cyl
> > > 1"MM
> > > NO SYE
> > > Stock driveshaft
> > > D35C, 4.10s
> > > Stock NP231
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > >
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25809 From: Joey K <joey@j...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2001 9:06pm
Subject: RE: new decal 2
OR How 'bout a bumper sticker for the daily driver that says "My other car is a AzVJC Jeep"?
Joey K
-----Original Message-----
From: Daddy Longlegs [mailto:osmtj@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 9:04 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] new decal 2
I like the new "non-juvenile" version. Looks good! I'm still running the very first batch of stickers and won't be changing them. I figure they are classics by now :)
Jon, It would sure be nice to get some AZVJC license plate frames. That way I could put something on the daily driver. Just a thought....
Scott
Larry Farquhar wrote:
Double IMHO - yes, it's good! Thanks for considering my opinion. But I'm only one member and Joe is only one member. What's everyone else think? I'll probably keep my existing decals anyway.
Larry Farquhar
2001 TJ - "Wyle E"
www.azjeeper.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Loveless [mailto:jonloveless@mindspring.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 4:53 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] new decal 2
Ok, Joe (and others) I removed the (sniff) juvenile 'we rock' and I also made the bottom text a bit larger. Better??
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25810 From: Daddy Longlegs <osmtj@y...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2001 9:12pm
Subject: RE: new decal 2
I really don't want to put anything on the bumper of my daily driver. Anything more visible than the license frame wouldn't approprite for me. I do like your slogan though :)
Scott
Joey K wrote:
OR How 'bout a bumper sticker for the daily driver that says "My other car is a AzVJC Jeep"?
Joey K
-----Original Message-----
From: Daddy Longlegs [mailto:osmtj@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 9:04 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] new decal 2
I like the new "non-juvenile" version. Looks good! I'm still running the very first batch of stickers and won't be changing them. I figure they are classics by now :)
Jon, It would sure be nice to get some AZVJC license plate frames. That way I could put something on the daily driver. Just a thought....
Scott
Larry Farquhar wrote:
Double IMHO - yes, it's good! Thanks for considering my opinion. But I'm only one member and Joe is only one member. What's everyone else think? I'll probably keep my existing decals anyway.
Larry Farquhar
2001 TJ - "Wyle E"
www.azjeeper.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Loveless [mailto:jonloveless@mindspring.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 4:53 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] new decal 2
Ok, Joe (and others) I removed the (sniff) juvenile 'we rock' and I also made the bottom text a bit larger. Better??
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25811 From: Daryl Faust <louddog71@y...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2001 9:18pm
Subject: Re: Mathematicians wanted
Since you are dealing with air, you also need to
consider temperature, air pressure (i.e. altitude),
and as someone else stated the elasticity of the tire.
I have to ask, why do you want to calculate this?
--- Jay Eller <jay@t...> wrote:
> "Auntie-M....Auntie-M.....It's a twister!!! It's a
> twister":-0
>
> Excellent derivation professor! But what about the
> orifice created by the valve
> reducing the flow rate to the tire?
>
> I would guess that with the orifice created by the
> tire valve, it would take you
> just long enough for your toes to start hurting
> while squatted down filling the
> tire........give or take a few comments about "I
> should have sprung for a damned
> CO2 tank!"
>
> Just a little light hearted humour.
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25812 From: Daddy Longlegs <osmtj@y...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2001 9:18pm
Subject: Re: Re: Ladies Run?
I think we should officially call this the "First (and maybe only ;) Annual AZVJC Significant Other Run"
There are some ladies in this group that could drive circles around many of us guys. Why limit this to the ladies? I know there are a few ladies out there with rookie spouses :)
Scott
Frank and Amanda Zepeda wrote:
I agree I think it would be a great idea. My wife
drove the tj off road for the first time last week
and loved it. She has always supported my jeep
craving, but now I think she has been bit by it to.
She has already started talking about getting her own
jeep. I let her drive once and she is ready to
conquer axle alley. I think we should definitely put
some thought into the trail, something really basic
with a good variety of small learning obstacles, I
don't think I could bear it if she decorated the
rocker panels for me.
--- Brent Lizakowski
wrote:
> Would the Crown King or Broken Arrow trails be good
> choices?
>
> I've been wanting to see those for a while now.
>
> Now, I just have to find a lady to drive my Jeep.
> (Mom doesn't seem to
> be interested).
>
> Brent
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., Daddy Longlegs
> wrote:
> >
> > I've been wanting to organize a Ladies Run for
> quite sometime. I
> recently began letting Theresa start driving Daddy
> Longlegs on a
> couple easy trails so she can get a feel for how it
> performs.
> > Lets do it! Why not run something up north where
> its a bit cooler?
> > Scott
> > Roger Tomas wrote: Chris,
> >
> > I think that's and excellent idea. I'd guess that
> more significant
> > others would be willing to give it a shot when
> they're in the
> company
> > of others at their level.
> >
> > And, while I doubt this would cause my wife to
> want to drive, I
> would
> > definitely be willing to encourage her to try. But
> it better be a
> > bit cooler out otherwise no way.
> >
> > -Roger
> >
> > "Chris R." wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok this is not going to be a singles pick up
> run(Somebody single
> would have
> > > to set that up).
> > >
> > > My wife really wants to drive more often off
> road(when we met we
> used to off
> > > road all the time, her in her Toyota Pick Up and
> me in my
> Samurai), however
> > > she is not experienced in rock crawling. During
> the last
> trip(National
> > > Trails Day) she did great running Appetizer, but
> with her depth
> perception
> > > problem did not want to run Lower Tax Collector
> in the dark.
> > >
> > > What I was thinking(yes I am gonna say it) was
> if there are other
> wifes or
> > > significant others that have been bugging you to
> drive I would set
> up a run
> > > where they can drive and we can spot for
> them(driving it a little
> and
> > > knowing how it feels on the other side might
> help them spot for
> you in the
> > > future). Go ahead some of you are just waiting
> to flame me(I put
> on my fire
> > > retardant suit before hitting the send button so
> HA!!!). And my
> apologies
> > > to any of you that might have your wife checking
> your email with
> you(sure
> > > some of you are going thank God my wife isn't
> reading this).
> > >
> > > Anyone else is of course welcome to come along,
> but the primary
> set up would
> > > be for them to drive, walk it with you and map
> out the plan, then
> drive past
> > > the obstacle.
> > >
> > > I was thinking of having them run either
> Appetizer and Lower Tax
> > > Collector(Upper if you want them to or if you
> want to switch) or
> maybe the
> > > Gas Pipeline or give me some suggestions...keep
> in mind some of the
> drivers
> > > may be first timers so the rig they are driving
> may be much more
> capable
> > > than they are ready for in making your
> suggestions.
> > >
> > > Anyway, it was just a thought and it sounded
> like fun. And yes for
> your
> > > Jeep chicks out there if your significant other
> or hubby wants to
> drive and
> > > you will let him this can and will work in
> reverse, no prejudice
> here.
> > >
> > > And for those who can't resist...FLAME ON!!!!
> > >
> > > Chris
> >
> >
> >
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25813 From: Michigan <michign@q...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2001 9:21pm
Subject: Re: Is Anyone using Yahoo Messenger?
I use it alot, prefer it's interface to ICQ, or MSN
----- Original Message -----
From: Tomie Skramstad <mudmaid@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Is Anyone using Yahoo Messenger?
> I use Yahoo messenger all the time. Do a lot of people
> on this list chat on Yahoo?
>
> ~ Tomie
> Yahoo SN - mudmaid
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> --- Rick Hall <rnealh@y...> wrote:
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> > since
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25814 From: Jesus Chio - AllOffRoad <jchio@a...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2001 11:34am
Subject: Re: Is Anyone using Yahoo Messenger?
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Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Is Anyone using Yahoo Messenger?
> I use it alot, prefer it's interface to ICQ, or MSN
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> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Is Anyone using Yahoo Messenger?
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25815 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2001 9:42pm
Subject: Re: Mathematicians wanted
I wanted to add some air tank(s) to buffer my Viair II. After further
consideration (Joe's calculations) and the instant replay (CO2). I
think I decided that the buffering idea is a waste of money.
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., Daryl Faust <louddog71@y...> wrote:
> Since you are dealing with air, you also need to
> consider temperature, air pressure (i.e. altitude),
> and as someone else stated the elasticity of the tire.
> I have to ask, why do you want to calculate this?
>
> --- Jay Eller <jay@t...> wrote:
> > "Auntie-M....Auntie-M.....It's a twister!!! It's a
> > twister":-0
> >
> > Excellent derivation professor! But what about the
> > orifice created by the valve
> > reducing the flow rate to the tire?
> >
> > I would guess that with the orifice created by the
> > tire valve, it would take you
> > just long enough for your toes to start hurting
> > while squatted down filling the
> > tire........give or take a few comments about "I
> > should have sprung for a damned
> > CO2 tank!"
> >
> > Just a little light hearted humour.
> >
> > --
> > ----------------------------
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25816 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2001 10:08pm
Subject: [TR] Tin Can Alley - Saturday, June 23, 2001 - Reminder
Hello All,
Stu Olson is leading a Tin Can Alley trail run on Saturday, June 23, 2001.
When: 5:30 PM (prompt)
Where: Mile marker 11, State Rte. 74 (aka., Carefree Highway). MM #11 is about 9 miles west of the Lake Pleasent Marina turnoff. Meet on the north side of the highway and airdown there.
Rating: 3.0+
Length: 6~7 hours
CB Channel: 4
This will be a "fun" run and suitable for stockers and built up Jeeps. I don't think I've ever had anyone finish the trail AND go home disappointed. (I've had some not finish and some not go home....j/k)
There are not tons of obstacles on the trail....but the ones that are there are fun and spaced out. All obstacles have bypasses available. You will have plenty of foothill whoop-de-doos by the time the sun is set and while it is still light, we will be able to do some rock crawling over the first couple of obstacles.
I've had stock TJs/YJs with street tires make it through, albeit one or two required a tow strap in a couple of places. It will depend on the condition of the trail and your driver skill.
By the time we climb up into the hills a bit, you will be able to see the valley lights sparkling in the distance (ok...that is about as mushy as this description will get).
BRING WATER! It is hot out there!
Also, count on a late night getting home....that way when you get home an hour earlier, you will be happy about it! Also, you won't stress so much because of having to pay the baby sitter overtime wages! LOL
It is usually around 1:00 AM or so when I get back to town. Was later once or twice when Jeeper use to go and blow up u-joints just mere yards from the end of the trail!
I hope to see some of you Saturday evening, ready to have a good time.
You can see some of the previous runs at the included web site address.
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25817 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2001 6:11pm
Subject: Re: Jeep Noise
You guys are taking this noise thing way to seriously. Instead of spending
money and wasting time looking for the "rattle", just get a louder radio and
some nice speakers. Turn it up the volume and and the rattle goes away. If
you get some loud bass speakers, it will even cover up those annoying vibes
from your driveshaft. Getting a new radio is how I fixed my squeaky brakes
on my Cruiser. It works great : )
John K
P.S. Yes, I know Im full of it...Its a joke people..... : )
25818 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2001 5:12pm
Subject: RE: new decal 2
I like 2 also when can I get two? J Nice work Jon. Jim F.
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
http://stk-yj.alloffroad.com/index.html
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Loveless [mailto:jonloveless@mindspring.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 4:53 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] new decal 2
Ok, Joe (and others) I removed the (sniff) juvenile 'we rock' and I also made the bottom text a bit larger. Better??
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25819 From: Tim Coble <tcoble@y...>
Date: Fri Jun 22, 2001 5:58am
Subject: YJ Rear Seat
Matt,
The rear seat from my missing YJ is sitting on my back
porch. It's a grey fold and tumble. I'll be back in
Tucson mid-week and we can work something out. I
might have some other things you may want too.
Tim Coble
92 YJ MIA
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:56:37 -0700
From: "Matt Barker" <azjeepnut@w...>
Subject: [FS?] Jeep Seat Wanted
Anybody got a rear seat for a YJ laying around that
they don't use?
Preferrably grey...
Thanks,
Matt B.
94 YJ
http://azjeeps.offroadhq.net
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25820 From: <P35X1250X15@A...>
Date: Fri Jun 22, 2001 3:02am
Subject: Tires for Sale
We have 4 BFG Mud Terraine 31x1050x15 tires.
$300.00 or make offer
Thanx,
Peanut
25821 From: james c. williams <remo@t...>
Date: Fri Jun 22, 2001 7:40am
Subject:
please remove me from the group, way too many messages for me!
25822 From: tom lafrance <tlafrance@j...>
Date: Fri Jun 22, 2001 7:44am
Subject: Re:
Is there a digest form available for the list?
Tom
25823 From: Robert Loveless <bearloveless@h...>
Date: Fri Jun 22, 2001 7:42am
Subject: Re: New Decals
The new decals look very nice. I would like one, even though my old one is
still on. We don't have as high of a criminal element out here in the
country as you do have there in the big city.
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25824 From: Michael B. Wixom <mwixom@q...>
Date: Fri Jun 22, 2001 8:08am
Subject: New Decal
The new Decal #2 is really nice I'll take a couple when they are done.
Mike Wixom
85 CJ-7
25825 From: <jeeperaz@q...>
Date: Fri Jun 22, 2001 8:04am
Subject: Re: Digest Mode and other options
--- In az_vjc@y..., tom lafrance <tlafrance@j...> wrote:
> Is there a digest form available for the list?
>
> Tom
Yes, go here:
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I just read the msg's off the internet rather than having them sent
to my email account.
Good Luck,
LarryM
25826 From: Daddy Longlegs <osmtj@y...>
Date: Fri Jun 22, 2001 8:52am
Subject: Re:
Instead of removing yourself go into www.yahoogroups.com and select your azvjc group. In your options you can choose to read the messages via email or on the website. If you read them via the website you will no longer get the flod of email.
If you still want to remove yourself there are directions on how to unsubscribe at the yahoogroups website.
Scott
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25827 From: Chris R. <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Fri Jun 22, 2001 9:00am
Subject: Re: new decal 2
I am bummed, I liked the 'we rock'. Trying to figure out since it is what
we do how it is deemed more juvenile? When you think of it we are just
bigger than when were were children and are driving motorized Tonka's over
hills and rocks(younger and without a drivers license we used arm power to
push them over the obstacle). So have we really progressed?
Sorry to all, but Jon I have to say I liked the little 'we rock' on the
sticker. Obviously thought I am in the minority here so I guess I lose, but
just had to say my peace.
Chris
http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
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'97 TJ
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On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:53:16 -0700, Jon Loveless wrote:
> Ok, Joe (and others) I removed the (sniff) juvenile 'we rock' and I also
> made the bottom text a bit larger. Better??
>
>
<http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=22547&a=12263360&p=50726986&f=0>
>
>
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25828 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Fri Jun 22, 2001 9:01am
Subject: New tire decision for the CJ
Well I went over to Desert Rat last night to look at the 6ply 38s and the
10ply 36 PJ Dirt Grip. The 6ply side walls are defiantly thicker then a BFG
but not as thick as a TSL SX. They are about as tough as a radial TSL. There
is a roomer going around that PJ may be coming out with a 8ply in the 38 but
that is just a roomer. So here is my thoughts.
P.S. If you have not seen the PJ yet look at the enclosure #1 next to
38.5x14.5 TLS SX #2 next to 39.5 bogger. Petersons offroad May issue took
them through Sledge Hammer and said they stuck to the rocks like glue, best
they had ever tested and could not pock a hole in the side wall of the
6plys.
6ply 38s PJ
Pro
38" before mounted
4" bigger then my 35 x 15.5 SXs
Sticks best to rocks
Con
Weaker side walls
bigger tire will be harder on my Dana 44.
Cost is highest
10ply 38.5 TSL SX
Pro
Toughest side walls available
3" bigger then my 35 SXs
Cost is lowest
Con
Actually only about 37.25"
small then the 38" PJ
harder on my Dana 44
only 14.5 wide
10ply 36 PJ
Pro
36" before mounting
Very tough side walls,
sticks best to rocks
2" bigger then my 35 SXs
Con.
2" smaller then the 38"
only 14.5 wide
What do you think?
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Regards
Randy Siade
Engineering Manager
Unisys Unigen Operations
6161 W. Erie Street
Chandler, AZ 85226
Phone 480 783-5911
Fax 480 783-5960
Cell 602-329-0699
randy.siade@unisys.com
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25829 From: Chris R. <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Fri Jun 22, 2001 9:02am
Subject: RE: new decal 2
Yes Joey and if you are not careful they may get stolen, they are worth a
mint. I am thinking of putting mine in a safety deposit box for safe
keeping. :o)
Chris
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On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:11:57 -0700, Joey K wrote:
> Excellent! (does this make the ones I have collectors Items? :-))
> Joey K
> 93YJ
> www.desertjeep.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Loveless [mailto:jonloveless@m...]
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 4:53 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] new decal 2
>
>
>
> Ok, Joe (and others) I removed the (sniff) juvenile 'we rock' and I also
> made the bottom text a bit larger. Better??
>
> <http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=22547
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> <http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=22547&a=12263360&p=50726986&
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25830 From: Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...>
Date: Fri Jun 22, 2001 9:04am
Subject: Re: new decal 2
Well, I did too, but the majority rules. Although there has not been a majority you and I are the only ones 'in favor' at this point. If you like the 'we rock' check out the bumper stickers I did at:
<http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=22547&a=12263360&f=>
At 09:00 AM 6/22/2001 -0700, Chris R. wrote:
Sorry to all, but Jon I have to say I liked the little 'we rock' on the
sticker. Obviously thought I am in the minority here so I guess I lose, but
just had to say my peace.
25806 From: Clint Ramsey <cwramsey@t...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2001 8:51pm
Subject: Re: [Q] Modification mistakes....
I read an article in some magazine where they tested the stock airbox with a
K&N and the insulating tape against several after market systems and the
stock box with the tape won.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris R. <my1stjeep@e...>
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, June 21, 2001 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] [Q] Modification mistakes....
>Turbo City Air Intake: It is a metal tube which retains the heat from the
>engine and heats up the air heading into the throttle body. After
>installing it there was a test that was performed that tested a similar
>metal intake with a K&N to a stock intake to a stock intake with a K&N
>replacement. The stock set up with a K&N installed and the restrictor on
>the end removed gave the best overall performance gains, then the Metal
>intake tube came in second.
>
>I heard that Turbo City now makes a Plastic one, the one problem they still
>have not overcome is that it ends above the engine, where the stock one
ends
>at the front where cooler air can be taken in.
>
>I do have better performance when the overall air temps outside are cooler
>and first thing in the morning, but on the ride home in the heat coupled
>with the engine heat and it does not perform nearly as well. There is an
>exhaust tape(looks like gauze) that I am going to wrap around it to attempt
>to insulate the tube. When used on headers it is to keep the heat in and
>make it exit through the exhaust, so I am hoping it will work to keep the
>heat off the metal tube and keep the tube cooler.
>
>Save the money and just install a K&N in the stock box or just add a cone
>intake where the box is at. I know the Airaid one puts it where the stock
>box is, but the overall price of $199 is outrageous for a 90 degree elbow
>and a K&N filter.
>
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25807 From: Daddy Longlegs <osmtj@y...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2001 9:03pm
Subject: RE: new decal 2
I like the new "non-juvenile" version. Looks good! I'm still running the very first batch of stickers and won't be changing them. I figure they are classics by now :)
Jon, It would sure be nice to get some AZVJC license plate frames. That way I could put something on the daily driver. Just a thought....
Scott
Larry Farquhar wrote:
Double IMHO - yes, it's good! Thanks for considering my opinion. But I'm only one member and Joe is only one member. What's everyone else think? I'll probably keep my existing decals anyway.
Larry Farquhar
2001 TJ - "Wyle E"
www.azjeeper.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Loveless [mailto:jonloveless@mindspring.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 4:53 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] new decal 2
Ok, Joe (and others) I removed the (sniff) juvenile 'we rock' and I also made the bottom text a bit larger. Better??
<http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=22547&a=12263360&p=50726986&f=0>
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25808 From: Daryl Faust <louddog71@y...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2001 9:06pm
Subject: RE: TJ Driveline ?
Having been a Engineer in aluminum casting, I can say
I may be an expert on this. Sorry if this is late or
it's already been answered but here's my $.02
If it's "mold marks," what it is are cracks in the die
that made the part, and it would show up on every part
made from that die, thus it would be a common problem.
If it is from a die crack it will be raised or a
ledge. Typically they will try to squeeze as many
parts out of a die as possible and cracks are not
really a big issue in a die unless you ate making
cosmetic parts.
If what you see is a swirl, or an actual crevace, it
is a defect and should be replaced. This is caused
when two cold (relatively because it's about 1100
degrees) fronts of aluminum come together in a die and
solidify next to each other without fully bonding...
This is bad and will eventually break, but parts like
that usually will not get very far down a production
line.
--- Joe W <arizonajeep@h...> wrote:
> My guess is that Chris is correct... and the marks
> are just remnants of the
> cooling process of aluminum. My Atlas II and my old
> NP231 both have casting
> marks which I swear, look exactly like cracks. one
> good way to tell the
> difference is to sand them lightly and see if they
> disappear. If they do,
> and you can't see a fine crack; it is a casting
> mark.
>
> Joe West
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:32 AM
> > To: Dan Coley; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] TJ Driveline ?
> >
> >
> > Are you sure the marks on the tcase are not just
> mold marks. I seem to
> > remember a big debate about this many months ago
> on the Jeeps
> > Unlimited BB.
> > Someone thought their tcase was cracking and they
> all finally
> > agreed that
> > they were just mold marks. They looked like
> cracks, but
> > someone that worked
> > for New Process chimed in that many look like
> this. Final result: mold
> > marks. Not from where 2 molds come together, but
> just marks
> > in the mold
> > itself.
> > Maybe the "rolling rocks" sound is the catalytic
> converter. I
> > have read
> > several places that when the cat goes out it
> sounds like
> > marbles bouncing
> > around in a tin can.
> >
> > Chris K
> >
> > > From: "Dan Coley" <mt_b@y...>
> > > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:21:27 -0000
> > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] TJ Driveline ?
> > >
> > > When replacing the U-joints in the rear of my TJ
> last night
> > I noticed
> > > the tail cone was cracking all around the
> bottom. What type of
> > > internal damage can this be doing to my t-case?
> I'm not intimatley
> > > familiar (should anyone REALLY be) with my
> t-case, so I don't know
> > > the exact positions of the inner workings at the
> output shaft.
> > >
> > > I do know that if I get off the power at any
> speed of 50mph, let the
> > > jeep coast, I have a lot of noise coming from
> under the
> > jeep, towards
> > > the rear It sounds rocks being tossed around in
> a metal bucket, but
> > > there isn't any vibrations at all. I have no
> vibrations or noise
> > > under acceleration or cruising at one speed,
> ONLY when the jeep is
> > > slowing down, in other words when there is no
> power being applied.
> > >
> > > Changed the U-joints last night so everything is
> snug.
> > > Could their also be an issue at the pinion?
> > >
> > > I know I need an SYE/DS, but that is still about
> 2 months away.
> > >
> > > Specs:
> > > 2000TJ
> > > 5spd
> > > 3in Tera lift
> > > 4cyl
> > > 1"MM
> > > NO SYE
> > > Stock driveshaft
> > > D35C, 4.10s
> > > Stock NP231
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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25809 From: Joey K <joey@j...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2001 9:06pm
Subject: RE: new decal 2
OR How 'bout a bumper sticker for the daily driver that says "My other car is a AzVJC Jeep"?
Joey K
-----Original Message-----
From: Daddy Longlegs [mailto:osmtj@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 9:04 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] new decal 2
I like the new "non-juvenile" version. Looks good! I'm still running the very first batch of stickers and won't be changing them. I figure they are classics by now :)
Jon, It would sure be nice to get some AZVJC license plate frames. That way I could put something on the daily driver. Just a thought....
Scott
Larry Farquhar wrote:
Double IMHO - yes, it's good! Thanks for considering my opinion. But I'm only one member and Joe is only one member. What's everyone else think? I'll probably keep my existing decals anyway.
Larry Farquhar
2001 TJ - "Wyle E"
www.azjeeper.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Loveless [mailto:jonloveless@mindspring.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 4:53 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] new decal 2
Ok, Joe (and others) I removed the (sniff) juvenile 'we rock' and I also made the bottom text a bit larger. Better??
<http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=22547&a=12263360&p=50726986&f=0>
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25810 From: Daddy Longlegs <osmtj@y...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2001 9:12pm
Subject: RE: new decal 2
I really don't want to put anything on the bumper of my daily driver. Anything more visible than the license frame wouldn't approprite for me. I do like your slogan though :)
Scott
Joey K wrote:
OR How 'bout a bumper sticker for the daily driver that says "My other car is a AzVJC Jeep"?
Joey K
-----Original Message-----
From: Daddy Longlegs [mailto:osmtj@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 9:04 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] new decal 2
I like the new "non-juvenile" version. Looks good! I'm still running the very first batch of stickers and won't be changing them. I figure they are classics by now :)
Jon, It would sure be nice to get some AZVJC license plate frames. That way I could put something on the daily driver. Just a thought....
Scott
Larry Farquhar wrote:
Double IMHO - yes, it's good! Thanks for considering my opinion. But I'm only one member and Joe is only one member. What's everyone else think? I'll probably keep my existing decals anyway.
Larry Farquhar
2001 TJ - "Wyle E"
www.azjeeper.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Loveless [mailto:jonloveless@mindspring.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 4:53 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] new decal 2
Ok, Joe (and others) I removed the (sniff) juvenile 'we rock' and I also made the bottom text a bit larger. Better??
<http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=22547&a=12263360&p=50726986&f=0>
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25811 From: Daryl Faust <louddog71@y...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2001 9:18pm
Subject: Re: Mathematicians wanted
Since you are dealing with air, you also need to
consider temperature, air pressure (i.e. altitude),
and as someone else stated the elasticity of the tire.
I have to ask, why do you want to calculate this?
--- Jay Eller <jay@t...> wrote:
> "Auntie-M....Auntie-M.....It's a twister!!! It's a
> twister":-0
>
> Excellent derivation professor! But what about the
> orifice created by the valve
> reducing the flow rate to the tire?
>
> I would guess that with the orifice created by the
> tire valve, it would take you
> just long enough for your toes to start hurting
> while squatted down filling the
> tire........give or take a few comments about "I
> should have sprung for a damned
> CO2 tank!"
>
> Just a little light hearted humour.
>
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25812 From: Daddy Longlegs <osmtj@y...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2001 9:18pm
Subject: Re: Re: Ladies Run?
I think we should officially call this the "First (and maybe only ;) Annual AZVJC Significant Other Run"
There are some ladies in this group that could drive circles around many of us guys. Why limit this to the ladies? I know there are a few ladies out there with rookie spouses :)
Scott
Frank and Amanda Zepeda wrote:
I agree I think it would be a great idea. My wife
drove the tj off road for the first time last week
and loved it. She has always supported my jeep
craving, but now I think she has been bit by it to.
She has already started talking about getting her own
jeep. I let her drive once and she is ready to
conquer axle alley. I think we should definitely put
some thought into the trail, something really basic
with a good variety of small learning obstacles, I
don't think I could bear it if she decorated the
rocker panels for me.
--- Brent Lizakowski
wrote:
> Would the Crown King or Broken Arrow trails be good
> choices?
>
> I've been wanting to see those for a while now.
>
> Now, I just have to find a lady to drive my Jeep.
> (Mom doesn't seem to
> be interested).
>
> Brent
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., Daddy Longlegs
> wrote:
> >
> > I've been wanting to organize a Ladies Run for
> quite sometime. I
> recently began letting Theresa start driving Daddy
> Longlegs on a
> couple easy trails so she can get a feel for how it
> performs.
> > Lets do it! Why not run something up north where
> its a bit cooler?
> > Scott
> > Roger Tomas wrote: Chris,
> >
> > I think that's and excellent idea. I'd guess that
> more significant
> > others would be willing to give it a shot when
> they're in the
> company
> > of others at their level.
> >
> > And, while I doubt this would cause my wife to
> want to drive, I
> would
> > definitely be willing to encourage her to try. But
> it better be a
> > bit cooler out otherwise no way.
> >
> > -Roger
> >
> > "Chris R." wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok this is not going to be a singles pick up
> run(Somebody single
> would have
> > > to set that up).
> > >
> > > My wife really wants to drive more often off
> road(when we met we
> used to off
> > > road all the time, her in her Toyota Pick Up and
> me in my
> Samurai), however
> > > she is not experienced in rock crawling. During
> the last
> trip(National
> > > Trails Day) she did great running Appetizer, but
> with her depth
> perception
> > > problem did not want to run Lower Tax Collector
> in the dark.
> > >
> > > What I was thinking(yes I am gonna say it) was
> if there are other
> wifes or
> > > significant others that have been bugging you to
> drive I would set
> up a run
> > > where they can drive and we can spot for
> them(driving it a little
> and
> > > knowing how it feels on the other side might
> help them spot for
> you in the
> > > future). Go ahead some of you are just waiting
> to flame me(I put
> on my fire
> > > retardant suit before hitting the send button so
> HA!!!). And my
> apologies
> > > to any of you that might have your wife checking
> your email with
> you(sure
> > > some of you are going thank God my wife isn't
> reading this).
> > >
> > > Anyone else is of course welcome to come along,
> but the primary
> set up would
> > > be for them to drive, walk it with you and map
> out the plan, then
> drive past
> > > the obstacle.
> > >
> > > I was thinking of having them run either
> Appetizer and Lower Tax
> > > Collector(Upper if you want them to or if you
> want to switch) or
> maybe the
> > > Gas Pipeline or give me some suggestions...keep
> in mind some of the
> drivers
> > > may be first timers so the rig they are driving
> may be much more
> capable
> > > than they are ready for in making your
> suggestions.
> > >
> > > Anyway, it was just a thought and it sounded
> like fun. And yes for
> your
> > > Jeep chicks out there if your significant other
> or hubby wants to
> drive and
> > > you will let him this can and will work in
> reverse, no prejudice
> here.
> > >
> > > And for those who can't resist...FLAME ON!!!!
> > >
> > > Chris
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> >
> > Proud owner of "Daddy Longlegs"
> >
> >
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25813 From: Michigan <michign@q...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2001 9:21pm
Subject: Re: Is Anyone using Yahoo Messenger?
I use it alot, prefer it's interface to ICQ, or MSN
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> I use Yahoo messenger all the time. Do a lot of people
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> ~ Tomie
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25814 From: Jesus Chio - AllOffRoad <jchio@a...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2001 11:34am
Subject: Re: Is Anyone using Yahoo Messenger?
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> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 10:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Is Anyone using Yahoo Messenger?
>
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> > I use Yahoo messenger all the time. Do a lot of people
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> > ~ Tomie
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> >
> > --- Rick Hall <rnealh@y...> wrote:
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25815 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2001 9:42pm
Subject: Re: Mathematicians wanted
I wanted to add some air tank(s) to buffer my Viair II. After further
consideration (Joe's calculations) and the instant replay (CO2). I
think I decided that the buffering idea is a waste of money.
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., Daryl Faust <louddog71@y...> wrote:
> Since you are dealing with air, you also need to
> consider temperature, air pressure (i.e. altitude),
> and as someone else stated the elasticity of the tire.
> I have to ask, why do you want to calculate this?
>
> --- Jay Eller <jay@t...> wrote:
> > "Auntie-M....Auntie-M.....It's a twister!!! It's a
> > twister":-0
> >
> > Excellent derivation professor! But what about the
> > orifice created by the valve
> > reducing the flow rate to the tire?
> >
> > I would guess that with the orifice created by the
> > tire valve, it would take you
> > just long enough for your toes to start hurting
> > while squatted down filling the
> > tire........give or take a few comments about "I
> > should have sprung for a damned
> > CO2 tank!"
> >
> > Just a little light hearted humour.
> >
> > --
> > ----------------------------
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> > http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
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> >
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25816 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2001 10:08pm
Subject: [TR] Tin Can Alley - Saturday, June 23, 2001 - Reminder
Hello All,
Stu Olson is leading a Tin Can Alley trail run on Saturday, June 23, 2001.
When: 5:30 PM (prompt)
Where: Mile marker 11, State Rte. 74 (aka., Carefree Highway). MM #11 is about 9 miles west of the Lake Pleasent Marina turnoff. Meet on the north side of the highway and airdown there.
Rating: 3.0+
Length: 6~7 hours
CB Channel: 4
This will be a "fun" run and suitable for stockers and built up Jeeps. I don't think I've ever had anyone finish the trail AND go home disappointed. (I've had some not finish and some not go home....j/k)
There are not tons of obstacles on the trail....but the ones that are there are fun and spaced out. All obstacles have bypasses available. You will have plenty of foothill whoop-de-doos by the time the sun is set and while it is still light, we will be able to do some rock crawling over the first couple of obstacles.
I've had stock TJs/YJs with street tires make it through, albeit one or two required a tow strap in a couple of places. It will depend on the condition of the trail and your driver skill.
By the time we climb up into the hills a bit, you will be able to see the valley lights sparkling in the distance (ok...that is about as mushy as this description will get).
BRING WATER! It is hot out there!
Also, count on a late night getting home....that way when you get home an hour earlier, you will be happy about it! Also, you won't stress so much because of having to pay the baby sitter overtime wages! LOL
It is usually around 1:00 AM or so when I get back to town. Was later once or twice when Jeeper use to go and blow up u-joints just mere yards from the end of the trail!
I hope to see some of you Saturday evening, ready to have a good time.
You can see some of the previous runs at the included web site address.
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Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
25817 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2001 6:11pm
Subject: Re: Jeep Noise
You guys are taking this noise thing way to seriously. Instead of spending
money and wasting time looking for the "rattle", just get a louder radio and
some nice speakers. Turn it up the volume and and the rattle goes away. If
you get some loud bass speakers, it will even cover up those annoying vibes
from your driveshaft. Getting a new radio is how I fixed my squeaky brakes
on my Cruiser. It works great : )
John K
P.S. Yes, I know Im full of it...Its a joke people..... : )
25818 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2001 5:12pm
Subject: RE: new decal 2
I like 2 also when can I get two? J Nice work Jon. Jim F.
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From: Jon Loveless [mailto:jonloveless@mindspring.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 4:53 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] new decal 2
Ok, Joe (and others) I removed the (sniff) juvenile 'we rock' and I also made the bottom text a bit larger. Better??
<http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=22547&a=12263360&p=50726986&f=0>
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25819 From: Tim Coble <tcoble@y...>
Date: Fri Jun 22, 2001 5:58am
Subject: YJ Rear Seat
Matt,
The rear seat from my missing YJ is sitting on my back
porch. It's a grey fold and tumble. I'll be back in
Tucson mid-week and we can work something out. I
might have some other things you may want too.
Tim Coble
92 YJ MIA
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:56:37 -0700
From: "Matt Barker" <azjeepnut@w...>
Subject: [FS?] Jeep Seat Wanted
Anybody got a rear seat for a YJ laying around that
they don't use?
Preferrably grey...
Thanks,
Matt B.
94 YJ
http://azjeeps.offroadhq.net
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25820 From: <P35X1250X15@A...>
Date: Fri Jun 22, 2001 3:02am
Subject: Tires for Sale
We have 4 BFG Mud Terraine 31x1050x15 tires.
$300.00 or make offer
Thanx,
Peanut
25821 From: james c. williams <remo@t...>
Date: Fri Jun 22, 2001 7:40am
Subject:
please remove me from the group, way too many messages for me!
25822 From: tom lafrance <tlafrance@j...>
Date: Fri Jun 22, 2001 7:44am
Subject: Re:
Is there a digest form available for the list?
Tom
25823 From: Robert Loveless <bearloveless@h...>
Date: Fri Jun 22, 2001 7:42am
Subject: Re: New Decals
The new decals look very nice. I would like one, even though my old one is
still on. We don't have as high of a criminal element out here in the
country as you do have there in the big city.
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25824 From: Michael B. Wixom <mwixom@q...>
Date: Fri Jun 22, 2001 8:08am
Subject: New Decal
The new Decal #2 is really nice I'll take a couple when they are done.
Mike Wixom
85 CJ-7
25825 From: <jeeperaz@q...>
Date: Fri Jun 22, 2001 8:04am
Subject: Re: Digest Mode and other options
--- In az_vjc@y..., tom lafrance <tlafrance@j...> wrote:
> Is there a digest form available for the list?
>
> Tom
Yes, go here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/az_vjc/
I just read the msg's off the internet rather than having them sent
to my email account.
Good Luck,
LarryM
25826 From: Daddy Longlegs <osmtj@y...>
Date: Fri Jun 22, 2001 8:52am
Subject: Re:
Instead of removing yourself go into www.yahoogroups.com and select your azvjc group. In your options you can choose to read the messages via email or on the website. If you read them via the website you will no longer get the flod of email.
If you still want to remove yourself there are directions on how to unsubscribe at the yahoogroups website.
Scott
"james c. williams" wrote:
please remove me from the group, way too many messages for me!
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25827 From: Chris R. <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Fri Jun 22, 2001 9:00am
Subject: Re: new decal 2
I am bummed, I liked the 'we rock'. Trying to figure out since it is what
we do how it is deemed more juvenile? When you think of it we are just
bigger than when were were children and are driving motorized Tonka's over
hills and rocks(younger and without a drivers license we used arm power to
push them over the obstacle). So have we really progressed?
Sorry to all, but Jon I have to say I liked the little 'we rock' on the
sticker. Obviously thought I am in the minority here so I guess I lose, but
just had to say my peace.
Chris
http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
My1stJeep@e...
'97 TJ
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On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:53:16 -0700, Jon Loveless wrote:
> Ok, Joe (and others) I removed the (sniff) juvenile 'we rock' and I also
> made the bottom text a bit larger. Better??
>
>
<http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=22547&a=12263360&p=50726986&f=0>
>
>
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25828 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Fri Jun 22, 2001 9:01am
Subject: New tire decision for the CJ
Well I went over to Desert Rat last night to look at the 6ply 38s and the
10ply 36 PJ Dirt Grip. The 6ply side walls are defiantly thicker then a BFG
but not as thick as a TSL SX. They are about as tough as a radial TSL. There
is a roomer going around that PJ may be coming out with a 8ply in the 38 but
that is just a roomer. So here is my thoughts.
P.S. If you have not seen the PJ yet look at the enclosure #1 next to
38.5x14.5 TLS SX #2 next to 39.5 bogger. Petersons offroad May issue took
them through Sledge Hammer and said they stuck to the rocks like glue, best
they had ever tested and could not pock a hole in the side wall of the
6plys.
6ply 38s PJ
Pro
38" before mounted
4" bigger then my 35 x 15.5 SXs
Sticks best to rocks
Con
Weaker side walls
bigger tire will be harder on my Dana 44.
Cost is highest
10ply 38.5 TSL SX
Pro
Toughest side walls available
3" bigger then my 35 SXs
Cost is lowest
Con
Actually only about 37.25"
small then the 38" PJ
harder on my Dana 44
only 14.5 wide
10ply 36 PJ
Pro
36" before mounting
Very tough side walls,
sticks best to rocks
2" bigger then my 35 SXs
Con.
2" smaller then the 38"
only 14.5 wide
What do you think?
<<image002.jpg>> <<image001.jpg>>
Regards
Randy Siade
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Unisys Unigen Operations
6161 W. Erie Street
Chandler, AZ 85226
Phone 480 783-5911
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25829 From: Chris R. <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Fri Jun 22, 2001 9:02am
Subject: RE: new decal 2
Yes Joey and if you are not careful they may get stolen, they are worth a
mint. I am thinking of putting mine in a safety deposit box for safe
keeping. :o)
Chris
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'97 TJ
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On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:11:57 -0700, Joey K wrote:
> Excellent! (does this make the ones I have collectors Items? :-))
> Joey K
> 93YJ
> www.desertjeep.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Loveless [mailto:jonloveless@m...]
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 4:53 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] new decal 2
>
>
>
> Ok, Joe (and others) I removed the (sniff) juvenile 'we rock' and I also
> made the bottom text a bit larger. Better??
>
> <http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=22547
> <http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=22547&a=12263360&p=50726986&
> f=0> &a=12263360&p=50726986&f=0
> <http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=22547&a=12263360&p=50726986&
> f=0> >
>
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25830 From: Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...>
Date: Fri Jun 22, 2001 9:04am
Subject: Re: new decal 2
Well, I did too, but the majority rules. Although there has not been a majority you and I are the only ones 'in favor' at this point. If you like the 'we rock' check out the bumper stickers I did at:
<http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=22547&a=12263360&f=>
At 09:00 AM 6/22/2001 -0700, Chris R. wrote:
Sorry to all, but Jon I have to say I liked the little 'we rock' on the
sticker. Obviously thought I am in the minority here so I guess I lose, but
just had to say my peace.