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25405 From: Tom LaFrance <tlafrance@j...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 9:01pm
Subject: Value of CJ7 top?
I recently acquired a CJ7 that came with a Fiberglass hard top and Metal
doors. Since I want a few other goodies to upgrade my new toy, I was
considering selling the whole setup. What would a fair price be for a
decent condition CJ7 top and doors with good glass and minor surface
rust? Thanks in advance :)
Tom
Gold Canyon, AZ
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25406 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 9:12pm
Subject: Re: RE: Desert Rat - No Discount
Hmmmm, maybe we should keep the Desert Rat e-mail address and use it when
we bash them with our horible customer service, and the highest prices in
town! Even their web prices are higher than if I walked into ORU, or 4
Wheelers....
Mike Baney
--- Larry Farquhar <lfar@h...> wrote:
> Eric (I presume);
>
> During my first visit to your store to purchase the cage, I tried to
> clarify
> the issue of a "club discount". My understanding from you and Rick was
> "there is NO club discount given". I commented to Rick that I would
> inform
> my club of 600+ members of this policy. Upon finalizing my transaction,
> I
> did notice and was told I received the "online" price for the cage,
> which I
> presume is the same price I would pay if ordered via the web. Does
> paying
> the same price as what's already offered by Desert Rat considered a
> discount?
>
> Upon my return home, I informed my club, the Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
> (AZVJC), of the information I received about there not being a club
> discount. This was to clear up communications the club has recently had
> on
> our Email list about club discounts. I sent you a copy of the Email as a
> courtesy.
>
> Later that day, I did return to purchase the book and was pleasantly
> surprised to receive a discounted price on the book (about 9% discount).
> Although my first visit started to get a little 'tense', I felt the
> customer
> service I received on my second visit was much better.
>
> Please correct me if my information is wrong. I've copied this Email to
> the
> AZVJC to help insure they are getting "all the info about everything
> that
> happened", as you requested.
>
> Larry Farquhar
> 2001 TJ - "Wyle E"
> www.azjeeper.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Desert Rat Mesa (66) [mailto:desertrat66@d...]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 3:53 PM
> To: Larry Farquhar
> Subject: Re: Desert Rat - No Discount
>
> F.Y.I. MR. FARQUHAR
>
> THE STORE IN MESA DID GIVE YOU A DISCOUNT!!!!
> YOU WERE GIVEN A DISCOUNT ON YOUR BOLT IN ROLL
> CAGE THE FIRST TIME IN THE STORE 6/12/01 AND ON YOUR
> SECOND TRIP TO THE STORE THE SAME DAY WHEN YOU
> BOUGHT THE AZ TRAIL BOOK.
>
> BEFORE MAKING COMENTS ABOUT THE STORE AND EMPLOYEES ON THE INTERNET YOU
> SHOULD GIVE ALL THE
> INFO. ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED.
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
=====
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2001 TJ
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25407 From: Durham <bdurham@e...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 9:16pm
Subject: RE: Value of CJ7 top?
I have noticed several used tops at 4 wheeler's supply in phx. They might
give you a good price.
I have the same hardtop and doors, why do you want to get rid of them?
brian
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom LaFrance [mailto:tlafrance@j...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 9:02 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Value of CJ7 top?
I recently acquired a CJ7 that came with a Fiberglass hard top and Metal
doors. Since I want a few other goodies to upgrade my new toy, I was
considering selling the whole setup. What would a fair price be for a
decent condition CJ7 top and doors with good glass and minor surface
rust? Thanks in advance :)
Tom
Gold Canyon, AZ
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25408 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 9:22pm
Subject: Flat bed trailer needed.....
Does anyone have a flat bed trailer I can tow my limping Jeep with? Seems
since I tweaked the drag link so bad, it stripped the tie rod end bolt and
I can not get a new one on it, so it just turns the bolt after a few
torques. I am able to drive it on the trailer and off, but I won't drive
it to OR-Fab from Chandler! I have a Tahoe that I can tow it with, so all
I would need is the trailer, unless you want to give me a hand. I can
pick it up anywhere in the valley or in Casa Grande (I think there are a
couple members in CG?) I will bring you a case of longnecks of your
choice!
Thanks so much!
PS, still have my stickers, just checked!
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2001 TJ
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25409 From: Durham <bdurham@e...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 9:25pm
Subject: RE: Does anyone run a Jeepster Commando
They're only leaf springs. Get the sizes, and check manufacturers for the
equivalents at higher spring rates. http://www.gorancho.com/images/Specs.PDF
has sizes and stuff. Other makers have them, just not on the web.
You'll have to put some pics up if you do build it, I haven't seen many in
decent shape.
brian durham
http://community.webshots.com/user/bdurham17
-----Original Message-----
From: azmbtucson@y... [mailto:azmbtucson@y...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 8:50 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Does anyone run a Jeepster Commando
Do any of you guys run a Jeepster Commando. I got a line
on one and am seriously considering it. I am a little
concerned that lifting it would be a serious endeavor of
custom fabrication. What do you guys think?
Ty
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25410 From: ebnhils <ebnhils@e...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 9:43pm
Subject: Re: KJ question...
These weights on the pinion are most likely to help with vibration. Rather
than the vibration going through the body of the vehicle it is mostly
deadened by the weights. You will often see these same type of weights on
exhaust systems of newer cars.
Eben
92 YJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; <4bangers@yahoogroups.com>; "Bryan Loveless"
<bryan.loveless@n...>; "Scott Thomas" <sthomas@a...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] KJ question...
> Don't know...I just made that up :o)
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Thomas" <sthomas@a...>
> To: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>;
> <4bangers@yahoogroups.com>; "Bryan Loveless" <bryan.loveless@n...>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 5:29 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] KJ question...
>
>
> > Really, is that what they are for? I know on the Land Rover's they have
> > rollers on the bottom of them to keep them basically from getting
> > high-centered. Just wondering if that is true.
> >
> > Scott Thomas
> > 97' Tj
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 5:12 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; 4bangers@yahoogroups.com; Bryan Loveless
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] KJ question...
> >
> >
> > The skate board wheels help keep it going when the IFS causes it to
> > high-center.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bryan Loveless" <bryan.loveless@n...>
> > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; <4bangers@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 8:38 AM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] KJ question...
> >
> >
> > > I was checking out the new Liberty in payson's lot and noticed a
couple
> > > of oddities. I noticed the driveshafts have wierd looking weights on
> > > them? Why do they have to be so big? Also I crawled under the
Limited
> > > and noticed two big weights attached to the pinion area of the
> > > differential. They look like big skate board wheels. What do you
> > > suppose they do?
> > >
> > > Other than that, it looks "damn cute" and "it seems like it has a
> > > personality of its own." According to my s/o. She still likes her
ZJ
> > > Limited waaayyy more though.
> > >
> > > I'm still undecided.
> > >
> > > --Bryan
> > > Bryan.Loveless@n...
> > >
> > > "80 degrees in Flagstaff, damn that's hot!"
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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25411 From: Ray B. <kb7skv@c...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 10:06pm
Subject: Member Sighting
12:30 on 06/13 (wed). Corner of AZ ave and Elliot Rd (turning west onto
Elliot). Dark blue Cherokee lifted, with VJC sticker (and others) in
pass. side rear window. I didn't wave (the ford aspire just isn't cool
enough) but I am now!! HI ;-)
BTW this is from Amanda!!
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'76 CJ5 (AZAV8ER)
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25412 From: Larry Farquhar <lfar@h...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 10:07pm
Subject: Member Sighting
We were both at Blimbie's in Chandler this evening. Saw you drive up in the
yellow TJ, but didn't notice your azvjc sticker until we drove off. Sorry I
didn't say Hi while we in the store. Hi! Do you live in this area of
Chandler? I don't recall seeing your Jeep before.
Larry Farquhar
2001 TJ - "Wyle E" (fellow bannana bunch member)
www.azjeeper.com
25413 From: <dt_horton@h...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 10:19pm
Subject: Re: TJ softtop part needed.
I use the Sun Performance aluminum ends and highly
recommend them. But I have heard of people over tightening and
breaking the set screw. I didn't have that problem and they've
been perfect for 1 1/2 years. I think the facory ends are a one
time use with the soft plastic they use.
Dan Horton
2000 TJ
--- In az_vjc@y..., Daddy Longlegs <osmtj@y...> wrote:
>
> Mike,
> There are two vendors that I cn think of. The ones from Sun
Performance seem to be the better buy since they have a quick
release pin built in. Turbo City also makes aluminum
replacements.
> www.sunperformance.com
> www.turbocity.com
> Scott
>
> msa12171@a... wrote: Does anyone know where to find the
softtop bow ends that are billet
> aluminum that replace the factory plastid ends that attach to
the
> rollbar? i saw them in a catalog somewhere and can't find
them now.
> Thanks.
>
> Mike Anderson
>
>
>
>
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>
>
> Scott
>
>
>
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25414 From: Craig Micek <micekc@e...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 10:29pm
Subject: Re: Question on towing a YJ
I would only use it for quick trips occasionally. Manufacturer ratings imo are horribly misleading. I think they are meant for flat ground towing and only at slow speeds. :-) Will you be able to stop in a reasonable distance? Only if the brakes on the trailer are working very well. Can you pull a hill without disrupting the flow of traffic? No way.
I say this from experience. I towed my CJ7 up to Flagstaff with my V8 ZJ which was rated at 6500# on a rented u-haul trailer once and never wanted to do it again. The motor was fine but the short wheelbase ZJ was frightening with the small heavy trailer behind. I have a 5000# + boat that pulled a little better but after running off the road when an idiot pulled out in front of me and I couldn't stop, I decided to provide a little more safety for my family. I upgraded to a full size truck with a big motor and am very happy.
If you are only going to do it only once in a while you might be okay. Just take it slow and easy. Tranny coolers are also very helpful if you have an auto. Other wise you will probably smoke it if you try climbing the hill to Sunset point in the summer. (A friend of mine burned up his auto in a 4 Runner doing this very thing with a 4000# boat.)
Good Luck
Craig
----- Original Message -----
From: Marc Whitrock
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 6:42 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Question on towing a YJ
Hi All,
I was thinking of putting my YJ on a trailer. I have a Toyota 4Runner for the pull vehical. It says in the owners manual that it can tow 5000 pounds. YJ about 3200 + trailer 1000 + cargo 500 = 4700 pounds. If my calculations are correct. Does anyone know if the 4Runner is capable of doing this or is it pushing it to far? Any comments would be welcome.
Thanks,
Marc Rock
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25415 From: Daddy Longlegs <osmtj@y...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 10:45pm
Subject: Re: Flat bed trailer needed.....
Mike,
You should be able to rent a trailer with surge brakes from Ryder for about $35 for a day.I did this when my track bar bracket tore lose on Woodpecker. Hopefully that new trailer won't be too far off.
Scott
Mike Baney wrote:
Does anyone have a flat bed trailer I can tow my limping Jeep with? Seems
since I tweaked the drag link so bad, it stripped the tie rod end bolt and
I can not get a new one on it, so it just turns the bolt after a few
torques. I am able to drive it on the trailer and off, but I won't drive
it to OR-Fab from Chandler! I have a Tahoe that I can tow it with, so all
I would need is the trailer, unless you want to give me a hand. I can
pick it up anywhere in the valley or in Casa Grande (I think there are a
couple members in CG?) I will bring you a case of longnecks of your
choice!
Thanks so much!
PS, still have my stickers, just checked!
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2001 TJ
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25416 From: <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 11:01pm
Subject: Fully locked!
I just got done locking up the front diff, so now I am locked up
front and rear. I owe a colossal Thank You to Dave Burke, who
actually installed my front locker. He was very cool to offer to
help me put it in. When I went to HIS house to "drop it in" it
turned out that he did 99% of the work. I was pretty new to that
area of mechanical work (read "NO experience!") and Dave was really
patient and helpful. Without his help I would not be done for many
days. Anyhow, it's this kind of stuff that makes the members of this
club great. I have heard many similar stories from other members,
and just wanted to tell my own. So, thank you, Dave.
Lachlan (all locked up and no place to go...)
25417 From: Robert <rlpii@q...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 11:51pm
Subject: Idea for Posted Pictures
As I was looking at some of the recent trip photos that get posted, I
thought that it might be a good idea if, while on the trip, we try to
get pictures of some of the members so we can put a face with a name.
Any comments?
And, no I have not posted any pictures, as I am not very computer
savy. It's a pretty big deal for me just to open those pictures that
you all post. I always look forward to seeing the areas and rigs,
and
just thought that it would be interesting to see some of the folks
that I read about on this list.
rlp
74 CJ-5
Westsider
25418 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 7:56pm
Subject: OT::UPDATE Thursday Night, No dirt...
Sure enought, there is a fence arond the front of the field. It went up
Tuesday. or Wedensday. Who ever it was who wrote the email, thanks for the
heads up. I went last night and checked and the enitre front of the fiield
is closed off. You can still gain access by driving in the back, and there
are still no signs, but Im not gonna push it. While I was walking around I
did have a bit of luck, and Tempe officer drove up to me, after a breif
exchange I asked him about the fence. He was very cool and even knew who I
was, thru my shop. We had a good off-the-record conversation. Basically ,
the fence was put becuase of the excess dumping. The fill dirt piles grew
from an acre back all the way up the the sidewalk. The city had to stop it
and that was the only way they knew how. I asked him if it would be problem
if I ever wanted to go play back in there. He said personaly he would not
come out unless someone called in a complaint, And since htere was no one
around, no worries. But mind you this was all way-off-the-record.
Well, I still plan on going to Sonic(Kyrene and Elloit) and have dinner.
If I cant wheel, then at least I can eat in my 4x4. So if anyone wants to
join me and get out for a bit, See ya at 7 o'clock. Maybe after dinner we
can go drive over the Wal-mart loading ramp and check out our wheel
travel......(joke)
I suppose after all the grief this issue casued, this is pretty ironic.
Maybe in a few years I will laugh about it...
thanks for the support see ya then
John K
25419 From: Matt Barker <azjeepnut@w...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 5:35am
Subject: RE: Does anyone run a Jeepster Commando
There's a guy in the club down in Sierra Vista that has an AWESOME Commando.
You can check it out under Member Rigs at http://rangeriders.offroadhq.net/
It's a sprung-over lift. If you don't buy it, let me know... I would love
to own one!
Matt B.
94 YJ
http://azjeeps.offroadhq.net
Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
-----Original Message-----
From: azmbtucson@y... [mailto:azmbtucson@y...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 8:50 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Does anyone run a Jeepster Commando
Do any of you guys run a Jeepster Commando. I got a line
on one and am seriously considering it. I am a little
concerned that lifting it would be a serious endeavor of
custom fabrication. What do you guys think?
Ty
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25420 From: Tim Coble <tcoble@y...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 7:51am
Subject: Re: Stolen AZVJC Stickers!!!
Maybe they weren't after my jeep afterall but wanted
my AZVJC sticker and when they couldn't remove it took
the whole thing, hmmmm. Curiouser and curiouser.
BTW, Dan - I like your idea ...alot. >:^|
Tim
92 YJ - MIA
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25421 From: Chris R. <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 8:22am
Subject: RE: Does anyone run a Jeepster Commando
I don't own one, but would love to, they are among my favorite off road
vehicles.
As for building one I don't think it would be too hard. Most of teh parts
should be pretty easy to come by except body parts, those will be more
difficult. I think as for engine, tranny and the rest of the drivetrain the
parts are pretty universal. It would be a fun project, maybe that will be
next after I finish the 66 international pickup.
If you don't want to buy it or just for me to have fun I would love to go
look at it.
Chris
http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
My1stJeep@e...
'97 TJ
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 05:35:33 -0700, Matt Barker wrote:
> There's a guy in the club down in Sierra Vista that has an AWESOME
Commando.
> You can check it out under Member Rigs at
http://rangeriders.offroadhq.net/
> It's a sprung-over lift. If you don't buy it, let me know... I would
love
> to own one!
>
> Matt B.
> 94 YJ
> http://azjeeps.offroadhq.net
> Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: azmbtucson@y... [mailto:azmbtucson@y...]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 8:50 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Does anyone run a Jeepster Commando
>
>
> Do any of you guys run a Jeepster Commando. I got a line
> on one and am seriously considering it. I am a little
> concerned that lifting it would be a serious endeavor of
> custom fabrication. What do you guys think?
>
> Ty
>
>
>
>
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>
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25422 From: David W. Smith <dwsmith69@h...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 9:08am
Subject: Land Closer
I don't know if anyone seen this article in the Republic this morning. It
basically say's that if the Forrest would have been closed the fire would
possibly not happenend in flagstaff.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/0614fire14.html
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25423 From: David W. Smith <dwsmith69@h...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 9:08am
Subject: Land Closer
I don't know if anyone seen this article in the Republic this morning. It
basically say's that if the Forrest would have been closed the fire would
possibly not happenend in flagstaff.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/0614fire14.html
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25424 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 9:09am
Subject: Re: OT::UPDATE Thursday Night, No dirt...
There is a Coco's that has closed down on the corner of Vista Del
Cerro and Rural in Tempe that has a good loading ramp in the back.
The kids are always 'boarding around and on it. I've driven up it
few times to look at wheel travel. It looks about 20-30 degrees, so
you could probably figure out an approx RTI score.
It goes high enough that about anything will lift a wheel before the
top, 'cept for maybe the buggies.
--- In az_vjc@y..., hunteroffroad@a.
.. wrote:
> Sure enought, there is a fence arond the front of the field. It
went up
> Tuesday. or Wedensday. Who ever it was who wrote the email, thanks
for the
> heads up. I went last night and checked and the enitre front of
the fiield
> is closed off. You can still gain access by driving in the back,
and there
> are still no signs, but Im not gonna push it. While I was walking
around I
> did have a bit of luck, and Tempe officer drove up to me, after a
breif
> exchange I asked him about the fence. He was very cool and even
knew who I
> was, thru my shop. We had a good off-the-record conversation.
Basically ,
> the fence was put becuase of the excess dumping. The fill dirt
piles grew
> from an acre back all the way up the the sidewalk. The city had to
stop it
> and that was the only way they knew how. I asked him if it would
be problem
> if I ever wanted to go play back in there. He said personaly he
would not
> come out unless someone called in a complaint, And since htere was
no one
> around, no worries. But mind you this was all way-off-the-record.
> Well, I still plan on going to Sonic(Kyrene and Elloit) and have
dinner.
> If I cant wheel, then at least I can eat in my 4x4. So if anyone
wants to
> join me and get out for a bit, See ya at 7 o'clock. Maybe after
dinner we
> can go drive over the Wal-mart loading ramp and check out our wheel
> travel......(joke)
>
> I suppose after all the grief this issue casued, this is pretty
ironic.
> Maybe in a few years I will laugh about it...
>
> thanks for the support see ya then
> John K
25425 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 9:13am
Subject: Re: TJ softtop part needed.
Hey Mike,
I forgot yesterday when you said this,but if you want some stock ones
you can have mine, I know they aren't worth as much as skid-plate
spacers, but your welcome to them. I don't even own a top anymore,
and they are still on my jeep.
Let me know.
--- In az_vjc@y..., msa12171@a... wrote:
> Does anyone know where to find the softtop bow ends that are billet
> aluminum that replace the factory plastid ends that attach to the
> rollbar? i saw them in a catalog somewhere and can't find them
now.
> Thanks.
>
> Mike Anderson
25426 From: Brent Lizakowski <brent_lizakowski@h...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 9:16am
Subject: Re: Idea for Posted Pictures
Funny you should say that....
I was just up at K-Mart this past weekend having some portraits taken.
I went ahead and scanned one in and posted it:
http://www.artsconnected.org/artsnetmn/identity/closc01d.jpg
I think it's a great idea. I can't wait to see everyone else's mug!
Brent
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Robert" <rlpii@q...> wrote:
> As I was looking at some of the recent trip photos that get posted,
I
> thought that it might be a good idea if, while on the trip, we try
to
> get pictures of some of the members so we can put a face with a
name.
>
> Any comments?
>
> And, no I have not posted any pictures, as I am not very computer
> savy. It's a pretty big deal for me just to open those pictures
that
> you all post. I always look forward to seeing the areas and rigs,
> and
> just thought that it would be interesting to see some of the folks
> that I read about on this list.
>
> rlp
> 74 CJ-5
> Westsider
25427 From: Daver <daver@c...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 9:24am
Subject: LU - Re: Land Closer
"David W. Smith" wrote:
> I don't know if anyone seen this article in the Republic this morning. It
> basically say's that if the Forrest would have been closed the fire would
> possibly not happenend in flagstaff.
Yeah, I saw that. I suppose that they are right, in a way, if no one was
allowed in there, there wouldn't have boon a campfire left burning to
start the forest fire. But let's take that logir a step forward then,
shall we? A lot of people die on the highways each year. Couldn't we
eliminate that by simply closing all of them? No one on the highway = no
accidents on the highway. Once we get done with that, why don't we take
a look at autos in general. I mean, lots of people die in auto accidents
around the city too. Why don't we just....
Anyway. Keep the roads open and nail the sorry SOB's who don't know how
to put out a campfire, says I.
25428 From: <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 9:43am
Subject: Re: Idea for Posted Pictures
Man, thats what I thought you looked like anyway! Great mug shot!
Sure it wasn't taken at the TPD??
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Brent Lizakowski" <brent_lizakowski@h...> wrote:
> Funny you should say that....
>
> I was just up at K-Mart this past weekend having some portraits
taken.
> I went ahead and scanned one in and posted it:
>
> http://www.artsconnected.org/artsnetmn/identity/closc01d.jpg
>
> I think it's a great idea. I can't wait to see everyone else's mug!
>
> Brent
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Robert" <rlpii@q...> wrote:
> > As I was looking at some of the recent trip photos that get
posted,
> I
> > thought that it might be a good idea if, while on the trip, we
try
> to
> > get pictures of some of the members so we can put a face with a
> name.
> >
> > Any comments?
> >
> > And, no I have not posted any pictures, as I am not very computer
> > savy. It's a pretty big deal for me just to open those pictures
> that
> > you all post. I always look forward to seeing the areas and rigs,
> > and
> > just thought that it would be interesting to see some of the
folks
> > that I read about on this list.
> >
> > rlp
> > 74 CJ-5
> > Westsider
25429 From: Brent Lizakowski <brent_lizakowski@h...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 10:35am
Subject: Re: Tucson night run
I'm just bringing this back up as a reminder.
I've got my rock lights installed and I'm really looking forward to
the run!
Hope to see a good turnout.
Brent
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Hal Loy" <tucsonhal@e...> wrote:
> I'll be leading a night run through Italian Trap and Three Feathers
this Friday night, 6/15, meet at 5:00PM at the Safeway at Tanque Verde
& Catalina Highway. Unless there are unexpected problems we should be
back to the Safeway before midnight. On a 1 - 5 rating this trail
usually rates a 3 - 4.
>
> Hope to see some of you there,
> Hal Loy
> Tucson Roughriders
> AZ Virtual Jeep Club
> ASA4WDC
> tucsonhal@e...
>
> I Jeep, therefore I am.
25405 From: Tom LaFrance <tlafrance@j...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 9:01pm
Subject: Value of CJ7 top?
I recently acquired a CJ7 that came with a Fiberglass hard top and Metal
doors. Since I want a few other goodies to upgrade my new toy, I was
considering selling the whole setup. What would a fair price be for a
decent condition CJ7 top and doors with good glass and minor surface
rust? Thanks in advance :)
Tom
Gold Canyon, AZ
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25406 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 9:12pm
Subject: Re: RE: Desert Rat - No Discount
Hmmmm, maybe we should keep the Desert Rat e-mail address and use it when
we bash them with our horible customer service, and the highest prices in
town! Even their web prices are higher than if I walked into ORU, or 4
Wheelers....
Mike Baney
--- Larry Farquhar <lfar@h...> wrote:
> Eric (I presume);
>
> During my first visit to your store to purchase the cage, I tried to
> clarify
> the issue of a "club discount". My understanding from you and Rick was
> "there is NO club discount given". I commented to Rick that I would
> inform
> my club of 600+ members of this policy. Upon finalizing my transaction,
> I
> did notice and was told I received the "online" price for the cage,
> which I
> presume is the same price I would pay if ordered via the web. Does
> paying
> the same price as what's already offered by Desert Rat considered a
> discount?
>
> Upon my return home, I informed my club, the Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
> (AZVJC), of the information I received about there not being a club
> discount. This was to clear up communications the club has recently had
> on
> our Email list about club discounts. I sent you a copy of the Email as a
> courtesy.
>
> Later that day, I did return to purchase the book and was pleasantly
> surprised to receive a discounted price on the book (about 9% discount).
> Although my first visit started to get a little 'tense', I felt the
> customer
> service I received on my second visit was much better.
>
> Please correct me if my information is wrong. I've copied this Email to
> the
> AZVJC to help insure they are getting "all the info about everything
> that
> happened", as you requested.
>
> Larry Farquhar
> 2001 TJ - "Wyle E"
> www.azjeeper.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Desert Rat Mesa (66) [mailto:desertrat66@d...]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 3:53 PM
> To: Larry Farquhar
> Subject: Re: Desert Rat - No Discount
>
> F.Y.I. MR. FARQUHAR
>
> THE STORE IN MESA DID GIVE YOU A DISCOUNT!!!!
> YOU WERE GIVEN A DISCOUNT ON YOUR BOLT IN ROLL
> CAGE THE FIRST TIME IN THE STORE 6/12/01 AND ON YOUR
> SECOND TRIP TO THE STORE THE SAME DAY WHEN YOU
> BOUGHT THE AZ TRAIL BOOK.
>
> BEFORE MAKING COMENTS ABOUT THE STORE AND EMPLOYEES ON THE INTERNET YOU
> SHOULD GIVE ALL THE
> INFO. ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED.
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
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2001 TJ
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25407 From: Durham <bdurham@e...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 9:16pm
Subject: RE: Value of CJ7 top?
I have noticed several used tops at 4 wheeler's supply in phx. They might
give you a good price.
I have the same hardtop and doors, why do you want to get rid of them?
brian
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom LaFrance [mailto:tlafrance@j...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 9:02 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Value of CJ7 top?
I recently acquired a CJ7 that came with a Fiberglass hard top and Metal
doors. Since I want a few other goodies to upgrade my new toy, I was
considering selling the whole setup. What would a fair price be for a
decent condition CJ7 top and doors with good glass and minor surface
rust? Thanks in advance :)
Tom
Gold Canyon, AZ
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25408 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 9:22pm
Subject: Flat bed trailer needed.....
Does anyone have a flat bed trailer I can tow my limping Jeep with? Seems
since I tweaked the drag link so bad, it stripped the tie rod end bolt and
I can not get a new one on it, so it just turns the bolt after a few
torques. I am able to drive it on the trailer and off, but I won't drive
it to OR-Fab from Chandler! I have a Tahoe that I can tow it with, so all
I would need is the trailer, unless you want to give me a hand. I can
pick it up anywhere in the valley or in Casa Grande (I think there are a
couple members in CG?) I will bring you a case of longnecks of your
choice!
Thanks so much!
PS, still have my stickers, just checked!
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2001 TJ
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25409 From: Durham <bdurham@e...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 9:25pm
Subject: RE: Does anyone run a Jeepster Commando
They're only leaf springs. Get the sizes, and check manufacturers for the
equivalents at higher spring rates. http://www.gorancho.com/images/Specs.PDF
has sizes and stuff. Other makers have them, just not on the web.
You'll have to put some pics up if you do build it, I haven't seen many in
decent shape.
brian durham
http://community.webshots.com/user/bdurham17
-----Original Message-----
From: azmbtucson@y... [mailto:azmbtucson@y...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 8:50 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Does anyone run a Jeepster Commando
Do any of you guys run a Jeepster Commando. I got a line
on one and am seriously considering it. I am a little
concerned that lifting it would be a serious endeavor of
custom fabrication. What do you guys think?
Ty
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25410 From: ebnhils <ebnhils@e...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 9:43pm
Subject: Re: KJ question...
These weights on the pinion are most likely to help with vibration. Rather
than the vibration going through the body of the vehicle it is mostly
deadened by the weights. You will often see these same type of weights on
exhaust systems of newer cars.
Eben
92 YJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; <4bangers@yahoogroups.com>; "Bryan Loveless"
<bryan.loveless@n...>; "Scott Thomas" <sthomas@a...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] KJ question...
> Don't know...I just made that up :o)
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Thomas" <sthomas@a...>
> To: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>;
> <4bangers@yahoogroups.com>; "Bryan Loveless" <bryan.loveless@n...>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 5:29 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] KJ question...
>
>
> > Really, is that what they are for? I know on the Land Rover's they have
> > rollers on the bottom of them to keep them basically from getting
> > high-centered. Just wondering if that is true.
> >
> > Scott Thomas
> > 97' Tj
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 5:12 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; 4bangers@yahoogroups.com; Bryan Loveless
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] KJ question...
> >
> >
> > The skate board wheels help keep it going when the IFS causes it to
> > high-center.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bryan Loveless" <bryan.loveless@n...>
> > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; <4bangers@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 8:38 AM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] KJ question...
> >
> >
> > > I was checking out the new Liberty in payson's lot and noticed a
couple
> > > of oddities. I noticed the driveshafts have wierd looking weights on
> > > them? Why do they have to be so big? Also I crawled under the
Limited
> > > and noticed two big weights attached to the pinion area of the
> > > differential. They look like big skate board wheels. What do you
> > > suppose they do?
> > >
> > > Other than that, it looks "damn cute" and "it seems like it has a
> > > personality of its own." According to my s/o. She still likes her
ZJ
> > > Limited waaayyy more though.
> > >
> > > I'm still undecided.
> > >
> > > --Bryan
> > > Bryan.Loveless@n...
> > >
> > > "80 degrees in Flagstaff, damn that's hot!"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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>
>
25411 From: Ray B. <kb7skv@c...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 10:06pm
Subject: Member Sighting
12:30 on 06/13 (wed). Corner of AZ ave and Elliot Rd (turning west onto
Elliot). Dark blue Cherokee lifted, with VJC sticker (and others) in
pass. side rear window. I didn't wave (the ford aspire just isn't cool
enough) but I am now!! HI ;-)
BTW this is from Amanda!!
_____________________________
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'94 ZJ (cushy cruiser)
'76 CJ5 (AZAV8ER)
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25412 From: Larry Farquhar <lfar@h...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 10:07pm
Subject: Member Sighting
We were both at Blimbie's in Chandler this evening. Saw you drive up in the
yellow TJ, but didn't notice your azvjc sticker until we drove off. Sorry I
didn't say Hi while we in the store. Hi! Do you live in this area of
Chandler? I don't recall seeing your Jeep before.
Larry Farquhar
2001 TJ - "Wyle E" (fellow bannana bunch member)
www.azjeeper.com
25413 From: <dt_horton@h...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 10:19pm
Subject: Re: TJ softtop part needed.
I use the Sun Performance aluminum ends and highly
recommend them. But I have heard of people over tightening and
breaking the set screw. I didn't have that problem and they've
been perfect for 1 1/2 years. I think the facory ends are a one
time use with the soft plastic they use.
Dan Horton
2000 TJ
--- In az_vjc@y..., Daddy Longlegs <osmtj@y...> wrote:
>
> Mike,
> There are two vendors that I cn think of. The ones from Sun
Performance seem to be the better buy since they have a quick
release pin built in. Turbo City also makes aluminum
replacements.
> www.sunperformance.com
> www.turbocity.com
> Scott
>
> msa12171@a... wrote: Does anyone know where to find the
softtop bow ends that are billet
> aluminum that replace the factory plastid ends that attach to
the
> rollbar? i saw them in a catalog somewhere and can't find
them now.
> Thanks.
>
> Mike Anderson
>
>
>
>
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>
>
> Scott
>
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>
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25414 From: Craig Micek <micekc@e...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 10:29pm
Subject: Re: Question on towing a YJ
I would only use it for quick trips occasionally. Manufacturer ratings imo are horribly misleading. I think they are meant for flat ground towing and only at slow speeds. :-) Will you be able to stop in a reasonable distance? Only if the brakes on the trailer are working very well. Can you pull a hill without disrupting the flow of traffic? No way.
I say this from experience. I towed my CJ7 up to Flagstaff with my V8 ZJ which was rated at 6500# on a rented u-haul trailer once and never wanted to do it again. The motor was fine but the short wheelbase ZJ was frightening with the small heavy trailer behind. I have a 5000# + boat that pulled a little better but after running off the road when an idiot pulled out in front of me and I couldn't stop, I decided to provide a little more safety for my family. I upgraded to a full size truck with a big motor and am very happy.
If you are only going to do it only once in a while you might be okay. Just take it slow and easy. Tranny coolers are also very helpful if you have an auto. Other wise you will probably smoke it if you try climbing the hill to Sunset point in the summer. (A friend of mine burned up his auto in a 4 Runner doing this very thing with a 4000# boat.)
Good Luck
Craig
----- Original Message -----
From: Marc Whitrock
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 6:42 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Question on towing a YJ
Hi All,
I was thinking of putting my YJ on a trailer. I have a Toyota 4Runner for the pull vehical. It says in the owners manual that it can tow 5000 pounds. YJ about 3200 + trailer 1000 + cargo 500 = 4700 pounds. If my calculations are correct. Does anyone know if the 4Runner is capable of doing this or is it pushing it to far? Any comments would be welcome.
Thanks,
Marc Rock
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25415 From: Daddy Longlegs <osmtj@y...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 10:45pm
Subject: Re: Flat bed trailer needed.....
Mike,
You should be able to rent a trailer with surge brakes from Ryder for about $35 for a day.I did this when my track bar bracket tore lose on Woodpecker. Hopefully that new trailer won't be too far off.
Scott
Mike Baney wrote:
Does anyone have a flat bed trailer I can tow my limping Jeep with? Seems
since I tweaked the drag link so bad, it stripped the tie rod end bolt and
I can not get a new one on it, so it just turns the bolt after a few
torques. I am able to drive it on the trailer and off, but I won't drive
it to OR-Fab from Chandler! I have a Tahoe that I can tow it with, so all
I would need is the trailer, unless you want to give me a hand. I can
pick it up anywhere in the valley or in Casa Grande (I think there are a
couple members in CG?) I will bring you a case of longnecks of your
choice!
Thanks so much!
PS, still have my stickers, just checked!
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2001 TJ
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25416 From: <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 11:01pm
Subject: Fully locked!
I just got done locking up the front diff, so now I am locked up
front and rear. I owe a colossal Thank You to Dave Burke, who
actually installed my front locker. He was very cool to offer to
help me put it in. When I went to HIS house to "drop it in" it
turned out that he did 99% of the work. I was pretty new to that
area of mechanical work (read "NO experience!") and Dave was really
patient and helpful. Without his help I would not be done for many
days. Anyhow, it's this kind of stuff that makes the members of this
club great. I have heard many similar stories from other members,
and just wanted to tell my own. So, thank you, Dave.
Lachlan (all locked up and no place to go...)
25417 From: Robert <rlpii@q...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 11:51pm
Subject: Idea for Posted Pictures
As I was looking at some of the recent trip photos that get posted, I
thought that it might be a good idea if, while on the trip, we try to
get pictures of some of the members so we can put a face with a name.
Any comments?
And, no I have not posted any pictures, as I am not very computer
savy. It's a pretty big deal for me just to open those pictures that
you all post. I always look forward to seeing the areas and rigs,
and
just thought that it would be interesting to see some of the folks
that I read about on this list.
rlp
74 CJ-5
Westsider
25418 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2001 7:56pm
Subject: OT::UPDATE Thursday Night, No dirt...
Sure enought, there is a fence arond the front of the field. It went up
Tuesday. or Wedensday. Who ever it was who wrote the email, thanks for the
heads up. I went last night and checked and the enitre front of the fiield
is closed off. You can still gain access by driving in the back, and there
are still no signs, but Im not gonna push it. While I was walking around I
did have a bit of luck, and Tempe officer drove up to me, after a breif
exchange I asked him about the fence. He was very cool and even knew who I
was, thru my shop. We had a good off-the-record conversation. Basically ,
the fence was put becuase of the excess dumping. The fill dirt piles grew
from an acre back all the way up the the sidewalk. The city had to stop it
and that was the only way they knew how. I asked him if it would be problem
if I ever wanted to go play back in there. He said personaly he would not
come out unless someone called in a complaint, And since htere was no one
around, no worries. But mind you this was all way-off-the-record.
Well, I still plan on going to Sonic(Kyrene and Elloit) and have dinner.
If I cant wheel, then at least I can eat in my 4x4. So if anyone wants to
join me and get out for a bit, See ya at 7 o'clock. Maybe after dinner we
can go drive over the Wal-mart loading ramp and check out our wheel
travel......(joke)
I suppose after all the grief this issue casued, this is pretty ironic.
Maybe in a few years I will laugh about it...
thanks for the support see ya then
John K
25419 From: Matt Barker <azjeepnut@w...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 5:35am
Subject: RE: Does anyone run a Jeepster Commando
There's a guy in the club down in Sierra Vista that has an AWESOME Commando.
You can check it out under Member Rigs at http://rangeriders.offroadhq.net/
It's a sprung-over lift. If you don't buy it, let me know... I would love
to own one!
Matt B.
94 YJ
http://azjeeps.offroadhq.net
Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
-----Original Message-----
From: azmbtucson@y... [mailto:azmbtucson@y...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 8:50 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Does anyone run a Jeepster Commando
Do any of you guys run a Jeepster Commando. I got a line
on one and am seriously considering it. I am a little
concerned that lifting it would be a serious endeavor of
custom fabrication. What do you guys think?
Ty
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25420 From: Tim Coble <tcoble@y...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 7:51am
Subject: Re: Stolen AZVJC Stickers!!!
Maybe they weren't after my jeep afterall but wanted
my AZVJC sticker and when they couldn't remove it took
the whole thing, hmmmm. Curiouser and curiouser.
BTW, Dan - I like your idea ...alot. >:^|
Tim
92 YJ - MIA
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25421 From: Chris R. <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 8:22am
Subject: RE: Does anyone run a Jeepster Commando
I don't own one, but would love to, they are among my favorite off road
vehicles.
As for building one I don't think it would be too hard. Most of teh parts
should be pretty easy to come by except body parts, those will be more
difficult. I think as for engine, tranny and the rest of the drivetrain the
parts are pretty universal. It would be a fun project, maybe that will be
next after I finish the 66 international pickup.
If you don't want to buy it or just for me to have fun I would love to go
look at it.
Chris
http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
My1stJeep@e...
'97 TJ
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 05:35:33 -0700, Matt Barker wrote:
> There's a guy in the club down in Sierra Vista that has an AWESOME
Commando.
> You can check it out under Member Rigs at
http://rangeriders.offroadhq.net/
> It's a sprung-over lift. If you don't buy it, let me know... I would
love
> to own one!
>
> Matt B.
> 94 YJ
> http://azjeeps.offroadhq.net
> Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: azmbtucson@y... [mailto:azmbtucson@y...]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 8:50 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Does anyone run a Jeepster Commando
>
>
> Do any of you guys run a Jeepster Commando. I got a line
> on one and am seriously considering it. I am a little
> concerned that lifting it would be a serious endeavor of
> custom fabrication. What do you guys think?
>
> Ty
>
>
>
>
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25422 From: David W. Smith <dwsmith69@h...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 9:08am
Subject: Land Closer
I don't know if anyone seen this article in the Republic this morning. It
basically say's that if the Forrest would have been closed the fire would
possibly not happenend in flagstaff.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/0614fire14.html
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25423 From: David W. Smith <dwsmith69@h...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 9:08am
Subject: Land Closer
I don't know if anyone seen this article in the Republic this morning. It
basically say's that if the Forrest would have been closed the fire would
possibly not happenend in flagstaff.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/0614fire14.html
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25424 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 9:09am
Subject: Re: OT::UPDATE Thursday Night, No dirt...
There is a Coco's that has closed down on the corner of Vista Del
Cerro and Rural in Tempe that has a good loading ramp in the back.
The kids are always 'boarding around and on it. I've driven up it
few times to look at wheel travel. It looks about 20-30 degrees, so
you could probably figure out an approx RTI score.
It goes high enough that about anything will lift a wheel before the
top, 'cept for maybe the buggies.
--- In az_vjc@y..., hunteroffroad@a.
.. wrote:
> Sure enought, there is a fence arond the front of the field. It
went up
> Tuesday. or Wedensday. Who ever it was who wrote the email, thanks
for the
> heads up. I went last night and checked and the enitre front of
the fiield
> is closed off. You can still gain access by driving in the back,
and there
> are still no signs, but Im not gonna push it. While I was walking
around I
> did have a bit of luck, and Tempe officer drove up to me, after a
breif
> exchange I asked him about the fence. He was very cool and even
knew who I
> was, thru my shop. We had a good off-the-record conversation.
Basically ,
> the fence was put becuase of the excess dumping. The fill dirt
piles grew
> from an acre back all the way up the the sidewalk. The city had to
stop it
> and that was the only way they knew how. I asked him if it would
be problem
> if I ever wanted to go play back in there. He said personaly he
would not
> come out unless someone called in a complaint, And since htere was
no one
> around, no worries. But mind you this was all way-off-the-record.
> Well, I still plan on going to Sonic(Kyrene and Elloit) and have
dinner.
> If I cant wheel, then at least I can eat in my 4x4. So if anyone
wants to
> join me and get out for a bit, See ya at 7 o'clock. Maybe after
dinner we
> can go drive over the Wal-mart loading ramp and check out our wheel
> travel......(joke)
>
> I suppose after all the grief this issue casued, this is pretty
ironic.
> Maybe in a few years I will laugh about it...
>
> thanks for the support see ya then
> John K
25425 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 9:13am
Subject: Re: TJ softtop part needed.
Hey Mike,
I forgot yesterday when you said this,but if you want some stock ones
you can have mine, I know they aren't worth as much as skid-plate
spacers, but your welcome to them. I don't even own a top anymore,
and they are still on my jeep.
Let me know.
--- In az_vjc@y..., msa12171@a... wrote:
> Does anyone know where to find the softtop bow ends that are billet
> aluminum that replace the factory plastid ends that attach to the
> rollbar? i saw them in a catalog somewhere and can't find them
now.
> Thanks.
>
> Mike Anderson
25426 From: Brent Lizakowski <brent_lizakowski@h...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 9:16am
Subject: Re: Idea for Posted Pictures
Funny you should say that....
I was just up at K-Mart this past weekend having some portraits taken.
I went ahead and scanned one in and posted it:
http://www.artsconnected.org/artsnetmn/identity/closc01d.jpg
I think it's a great idea. I can't wait to see everyone else's mug!
Brent
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Robert" <rlpii@q...> wrote:
> As I was looking at some of the recent trip photos that get posted,
I
> thought that it might be a good idea if, while on the trip, we try
to
> get pictures of some of the members so we can put a face with a
name.
>
> Any comments?
>
> And, no I have not posted any pictures, as I am not very computer
> savy. It's a pretty big deal for me just to open those pictures
that
> you all post. I always look forward to seeing the areas and rigs,
> and
> just thought that it would be interesting to see some of the folks
> that I read about on this list.
>
> rlp
> 74 CJ-5
> Westsider
25427 From: Daver <daver@c...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 9:24am
Subject: LU - Re: Land Closer
"David W. Smith" wrote:
> I don't know if anyone seen this article in the Republic this morning. It
> basically say's that if the Forrest would have been closed the fire would
> possibly not happenend in flagstaff.
Yeah, I saw that. I suppose that they are right, in a way, if no one was
allowed in there, there wouldn't have boon a campfire left burning to
start the forest fire. But let's take that logir a step forward then,
shall we? A lot of people die on the highways each year. Couldn't we
eliminate that by simply closing all of them? No one on the highway = no
accidents on the highway. Once we get done with that, why don't we take
a look at autos in general. I mean, lots of people die in auto accidents
around the city too. Why don't we just....
Anyway. Keep the roads open and nail the sorry SOB's who don't know how
to put out a campfire, says I.
25428 From: <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 9:43am
Subject: Re: Idea for Posted Pictures
Man, thats what I thought you looked like anyway! Great mug shot!
Sure it wasn't taken at the TPD??
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Brent Lizakowski" <brent_lizakowski@h...> wrote:
> Funny you should say that....
>
> I was just up at K-Mart this past weekend having some portraits
taken.
> I went ahead and scanned one in and posted it:
>
> http://www.artsconnected.org/artsnetmn/identity/closc01d.jpg
>
> I think it's a great idea. I can't wait to see everyone else's mug!
>
> Brent
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Robert" <rlpii@q...> wrote:
> > As I was looking at some of the recent trip photos that get
posted,
> I
> > thought that it might be a good idea if, while on the trip, we
try
> to
> > get pictures of some of the members so we can put a face with a
> name.
> >
> > Any comments?
> >
> > And, no I have not posted any pictures, as I am not very computer
> > savy. It's a pretty big deal for me just to open those pictures
> that
> > you all post. I always look forward to seeing the areas and rigs,
> > and
> > just thought that it would be interesting to see some of the
folks
> > that I read about on this list.
> >
> > rlp
> > 74 CJ-5
> > Westsider
25429 From: Brent Lizakowski <brent_lizakowski@h...>
Date: Thu Jun 14, 2001 10:35am
Subject: Re: Tucson night run
I'm just bringing this back up as a reminder.
I've got my rock lights installed and I'm really looking forward to
the run!
Hope to see a good turnout.
Brent
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Hal Loy" <tucsonhal@e...> wrote:
> I'll be leading a night run through Italian Trap and Three Feathers
this Friday night, 6/15, meet at 5:00PM at the Safeway at Tanque Verde
& Catalina Highway. Unless there are unexpected problems we should be
back to the Safeway before midnight. On a 1 - 5 rating this trail
usually rates a 3 - 4.
>
> Hope to see some of you there,
> Hal Loy
> Tucson Roughriders
> AZ Virtual Jeep Club
> ASA4WDC
> tucsonhal@e...
>
> I Jeep, therefore I am.