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25130 From: <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Sat Jun 9, 2001 6:06pm
Subject: Tomken lifts
Does anyone run, (or know anyone who runs), a Tomken 4" lift for
a TJ? I am thinking that I like their Johnny Joint control arms,
which they buy the joint portion of from Currie Enterprises. They
are supposed to be totally rebuildable, and tough. The entire system
seems like a true bargain, as it has four coils, (progressively
wound), upper and lower control arms for front and rear, and related
hardware, like tcase spacers, sway bar discos, etc. Shocks, however,
are not included, but there are many good choices there. I am hoping
to get some feedback on the performance of Tomken's TJ system before
I buy ANY lift. I know that a lot of you TJ guys run either RE or
Tera, but I am partial to Tomken. Thoughts?
Lachlan
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25131 From: Dave King <kingd@d...>
Date: Sat Jun 9, 2001 6:27pm
Subject: Gila Monster??
where in the White Tanks is Gila Monster (the trail)??
we ran a new trail last night called Intimidator....if your going to run it
have a winch in your group, and plan on some body damage!
Dave King
25132 From: <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Sat Jun 9, 2001 6:46pm
Subject: Re: Gila Monster??
I started typing directions, then realized that even though I
went on this run today, I can't remember the road names to get you
there. Contact Dave O'Boyle (davidoboyle@h...) and he can
tell you, as he led this trip today. He pretty much discovered this
trail, to the best of my knowledge. What a fun run!
It's south of 10 off of Jackrabbit Trail, not to far from
Estrella Park.
Lachlan
In az_vjc@y..., "Dave King" <kingd@d...> wrote:
> where in the White Tanks is Gila Monster (the trail)??
>
> we ran a new trail last night called Intimidator....if your going
to run it
> have a winch in your group, and plan on some body damage!
>
> Dave King
25133 From: Peter Zuleger <azxjman@h...>
Date: Sat Jun 9, 2001 7:02pm
Subject: Fw: [arizonaXJ] Gila Monster Trail
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Zuleger
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 4:58 PM
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Subject: [arizonaXJ] Gila Monster Trail
Good run today. The trail is not all that long BUT it does have something for everyone. With a couple of places where one WOULD NEED ONE S.O.B OF A JEEP (+4.5)
Will post pictures soon
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25134 From: RICK BEER <RIKNAZ@M...>
Date: Sat Jun 9, 2001 7:33pm
Subject: OTS BUT FUNNYFw: FW: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd[2]:Halloween costume
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Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 7:28 PM
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25135 From: Keith D. Orr <korr@z...>
Date: Sat Jun 9, 2001 8:42pm
Subject: Transmission Trouble/FIXED!
Thanks to all,
I wanted to write and thank everyone who helped me with advice on my transmission problem. Come to find out after many stressful hours of troubleshooting,,
The set of vacuum lines that run down the fire wall to the transmission, half way down below the line of sight inside the wire loom, they were broken. So we replaced all the lines to the transmission and the ones to the 4x4 engaging valve unit on the front axle as well. Then, still not completely working right. We have the a/c and heater working now, but now it is running very rough and not shifting very well. Had the battery check, ( it was only 2 months old from Checker), and YEP!, the battery had a broken plate that was grounding out. Since the computer works on the closed electrical system, having the grounded plate the cycle of current was not complete. Change the battery and WOW! YES WOW!!
Gee that really seems not a hard fix now that you talk about it, but if you were to have asked me two days ago I would have said something much different.
It is great having friends not only to 4Wheel with, but also there to help out with our problems. I appreciate all of your help, and hope someday I can return the favor...........
Thank you,
Casper
25136 From: Dave King <kingd@d...>
Date: Sat Jun 9, 2001 8:54pm
Subject: last night
take a look at last nights fun...
look on the left for a link to Firebird a.k.a. Tax Collector and the new
trail...
http://hsp.rockcrawler.com
Dave King
25137 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Sat Jun 9, 2001 6:10pm
Subject: Trac bar
Last night I got a rather nice surprise...it seems that the bracket that
holds the rear trac bar to the axle broke! The weld on one side had broken
and the other side just snapped in two, has anybody else had this problem and
where can I get a new trac bar bracket?
any help would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
Sharky
25138 From: Keith D. Orr <korr@z...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 2:13am
Subject: Safford 4x4 Event!
Hello Gang,
I thought I would pass along a possibility and information to the group. I didn't know about this event until tonight, and of course it was to late by then to do anything.
Oh well, today here in Safford at the Gila raceway there as a 4x4 event held. It had three separate events for those that entered. The cost was 15.00 to participate. There was the pulling contest, and the mud bogg contest and the obstacle course. All rigs are competing in their own class = Full size, suv's, etc. I am not sure of the exact classification as of yet, but I will get the information this next week and post it for all to read. I understand that the obstacle challenge is very much a challenge. Those that I talked to say it was great! A friend of ours running in the Full size class won first prize in the mud bogg contest and won 175.00 in cash. I understand that there is going to be another challenge in July. I do not know the dates or any other information as of yet. It is a very organized activity with plenty of seating in the stands.
Well, the reason I am writing you all is because I have been working on setting up an overnight run here in Safford, and thought I would pass this on to you all to see if any of you would like to make this activity part of our fun. We could do the challenge before or after the run, or we could do the run on a separate day completely. Knock this around and talk about it as a club, and in the mean time I will get the complete information on the 4x4 event. It would sure look great having our club all lined up during the event for the show and shine. There will other clubs there of course, Gila Monsters, SideWinders to name a few. I would like to see other clubs from Tucson come over to do the same.
Oh BTW, I have heard that a stock Cherokee took first in the mud bogg for his class, but you know how rumors are; I will find out the facts tomorrow.
Thanks Gang,
Casper
87 XJ, 7" lift, locked, etc, etc, and ready to go!!!!!!!!!
25139 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 6:43am
Subject: RE: Trac bar
Sharky,
Lot's of us have had the exact same problem. I welded mine back up before
the bracket broke... as did Doug Ballard, Chris Krieg... EVERYONE who wheels
with their TJ NEEDS and has a 3+ lift on it needs to go out RIGHT NOW and
look at their rear trackbar bracket where it attaches to the rear
differential housing. All of the broken ones I've seen start cracking on
the drivers side outside edge where the bracket is welded to the axle.
GO NOW!!! I guarantee some of you have this bracket broken... check it
before it does what Sharky's did.
Joe West
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sharxjeep@c... [mailto:sharxjeep@c...]
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 10:11 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Trac bar
>
>
> Last night I got a rather nice surprise...it seems that the
> bracket that
> holds the rear trac bar to the axle broke! The weld on one
> side had broken
> and the other side just snapped in two, has anybody else had
> this problem and
> where can I get a new trac bar bracket?
> any help would be greatly appreciated
> Thanks
> Sharky
>
>
>
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25140 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 7:10am
Subject: Re: Trac bar
Excellent advise. A lot of stress is focused on that single bracket, and on
the right upper rear "frame" bracket. I've seen both brake...frequently. My
frame side broke off and my axle side was cracking. Reinforcing them is
smart preventative maintenance...cause you'll need to do it sooner or later.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...>
To: <sharxjeep@c...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 6:43 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Trac bar
> Sharky,
>
> Lot's of us have had the exact same problem. I welded mine back up before
> the bracket broke... as did Doug Ballard, Chris Krieg... EVERYONE who
wheels
> with their TJ NEEDS and has a 3+ lift on it needs to go out RIGHT NOW and
> look at their rear trackbar bracket where it attaches to the rear
> differential housing. All of the broken ones I've seen start cracking on
> the drivers side outside edge where the bracket is welded to the axle.
>
> GO NOW!!! I guarantee some of you have this bracket broken... check it
> before it does what Sharky's did.
>
>
> Joe West
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sharxjeep@c... [mailto:sharxjeep@c...]
> > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 10:11 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Trac bar
> >
> >
> > Last night I got a rather nice surprise...it seems that the
> > bracket that
> > holds the rear trac bar to the axle broke! The weld on one
> > side had broken
> > and the other side just snapped in two, has anybody else had
> > this problem and
> > where can I get a new trac bar bracket?
> > any help would be greatly appreciated
> > Thanks
> > Sharky
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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25141 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 7:33am
Subject: Help Needed please
Hi all,
I need a favor from someone out there. Dion and I ran Predator last
night and it claimed a victim! Actually, it claimed 3 total, 2 on the
first obsticle, and then me at the very end! I didn't even have a problem
on the hard lines! I cought my Drag link on a rock, and now it looks like
the "golden arches"! Does anyone out there have a spare drag link that I
can barrow untill I can get OR-Fab to build me a new one? If you already
have the OR-Fab setup, do you still have the original that I can use?
Thanks!!
BTW, Flexyxj was out on another trail, with Keith, Hackle, and a couple
others that I can not recall names, but they all helped out on my Jeep
after they finished Terminator. I tell you, this is the BEST club,
everybody was willing and DID help out on the trial. Flexy came up and
adjusted my front end so I can get home. I did 45 the whole way home, I
did not want to get "death wobble", so I found my comfort spot and just
took my time getting home.
THANKS for all of your help last night!!!!!
Please give me a call if you have a spare that I can use.
480-628-0204
I am at 40th street and Bell, but I will travel any where in the valley.
=====
Mike Baney
2001 TJ
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25142 From: Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 10:05am
Subject: Tonneau is done
The steel Tonneau by Bill Aylesworth is now complete. It is welded to the body behind the seats, bolted through the rear roll bar and also bolted with 4 beefy tie-down hooks along the edge on both sides. I believe that you could lift the Jeep off the ground with the u-hooks.
<http://albums.photopoint.com/j/Reorder?u=22547&a=116247>
The top and the piece behind the seats has been Herculiner'd and the PowerTank and hi-lift are both bolted down. The last 2 pictures show a different way to manage your tow strap. I used 2 - 5" flanges and a piece of threaded 3" pipe. The inner flange is bolted to the Mountaineer Rack and the outer one screws on and off for access to the strap.
The top weld behind the seats has been capped with a piece of 1" angle aluminum and the rear has been sealed with the swing out door with a piece of 1" flat aluminum. The only thing that rattles now are the padlocks on the hi-lift.
Jon Loveless
(480) 816-6240
25143 From: Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 10:10am
Subject: Tonneau URL
Sorry, the URL for the photos should be:
<http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=22547&a=13224277&p=50129113>
Jon Loveless
(480) 816-6240
25144 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 10:30am
Subject: RE: Tonneau is done
Jon,
That is a nice looking tonneau there. My compliments to Bill....a first class job in deed.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Loveless [mailto:jonloveless@mindspring.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 10:06 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Tonneau is done
The steel Tonneau by Bill Aylesworth is now complete. It is welded to the body behind the seats, bolted through the rear roll bar and also bolted with 4 beefy tie-down hooks along the edge on both sides. I believe that you could lift the Jeep off the ground with the u-hooks.
<http://albums.photopoint.com/j/Reorder?u=22547&a=116247>
The top and the piece behind the seats has been Herculiner'd and the PowerTank and hi-lift are both bolted down. The last 2 pictures show a different way to manage your tow strap. I used 2 - 5" flanges and a piece of threaded 3" pipe. The inner flange is bolted to the Mountaineer Rack and the outer one screws on and off for access to the strap.
The top weld behind the seats has been capped with a piece of 1" angle aluminum and the rear has been sealed with the swing out door with a piece of 1" flat aluminum. The only thing that rattles now are the padlocks on the hi-lift.
Jon Loveless
(480) 816-6240
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25145 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 10:56am
Subject: Re: Tonneau URL
Pretty neat!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Jon Loveless
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 10:10 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Tonneau URL
Sorry, the URL for the photos should be:
<http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=22547&a=13224277&p=50129113>
Jon Loveless
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25146 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 6:50am
Subject: Re: Trac bar
You guys nailed on the head. It is a toss up between what I fix more, the
older YJ shock mounts, or Track bars. While we are on the subject here a
couple other "problem"spots I have noticed.(While not as common, it is still
something you should check)
* On any jeep that has a control arm, check the backet to the axle. If you
dont have joints in your controlarms, and do a lot of wheeling, you should
pay extar attention to these.
* Also, I have seen some Cherokees, and a few Grand Cherokee were the
brackes to the unibody was tearing out. Same thing as above, no joint, better
check .
* The older YJ rear axle lower shcok tabs. These things love to break.
Cause.. to much wheel travel and shocks are too short or a the shocks are to
stiff on the up cycle..
The good news if any of these things do happen, cheap and easy fix for most
of them. The sooner you catch it, the cheapr and quicker it will be to fix.
While you are down looking, give everything a check,look for leaks,
rattles, loos u-joints. Haveing a driveshaft fall off on the way to work
really sucks. Dont ask me how I know.. I dont want to talk about it.
John K
Hunter
25147 From: Rick Hall <ricknhall@h...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 11:51am
Subject: Fw: Scrambler hardtop for sale.
I post stuff like this when I find it. If it's clutter I'll stop.
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Gemmill" <jimgem@w...>
Newsgroups: az.forsale
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 11:24 AM
Subject: Scrambler hardtop for sale.
> One black Scrambler hardtop for sale. Includes bulkhead. Good
> condition. Located in Arizona, shipping is not
> practical. $350. (Sure I'll negotiate)
>
> One roll bar for '51 Willys. $50
25148 From: Scott Legge <scottlegge@h...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 1:49pm
Subject: dumb newbie question...
Are there archives posted on the net anywhere? I looked on the website
before asking but didn't see anything I am sure there is a way to do it
through the yahoo list server but have been unable to see. TIA
Scott Legge
25149 From: Daddy Longlegs <osmtj@y...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 2:47pm
Subject: Re: Trac bar
Sharky,
Didn't you read my warning post about 8 weeks ago? This has happened to me and countless others in the past. I had Bill Mish repair it for me. This area is very prone to failure so I recommend everybody keep an eye on their welds and if your running big tires reinforce this area.
Good luck!
Scott
sharxjeep@cs.com wrote:
Last night I got a rather nice surprise...it seems that the bracket that
holds the rear trac bar to the axle broke! The weld on one side had broken
and the other side just snapped in two, has anybody else had this problem and
where can I get a new trac bar bracket?
any help would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
Sharky
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25150 From: <jeeperaz@q...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 4:24pm
Subject: Boggers vs TSL SX's
I dont know anyone who's running boggers and have never seen them in
action on the trail.
Does anyone know how well they perform on AZ rocks compared to TSL
SX's?
25151 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 0:40pm
Subject: Re: Trac bar
Well the Jeep is up and running now with all the control arms and trac bars
secure hehehe I must have missed your post Scott. Mike over at Roc Rat
Armor got me all put back together and we did reinforce it also (I highly
recommend it now). I think it must have broken on Upper Tax Collector and
finished last night. Im very glad that it didnt cut loose on the trail
concidering that the control arm went with it. We live and we learn. Thanks
to everyone who responded with advice :)
Happy trails and hope to see you soon
Sharky
25152 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 5:19pm
Subject: Re: dumb newbie question...
Yes - go to the Yahoo site and all the messages should be there. I think you
can get to it also from the AzVJC site www.azvjc.org
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Legge" <scottlegge@h...>
To: "AZVJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 1:49 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] dumb newbie question...
> Are there archives posted on the net anywhere? I looked on the website
> before asking but didn't see anything I am sure there is a way to do it
> through the yahoo list server but have been unable to see. TIA
>
> Scott Legge
>
>
>
>
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25153 From: <jpneric@t...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 6:06pm
Subject: Planning trip to Az next year
This is a general question to all members. A group of us from Florida
have been looking at your scenery for a long time view magazines and
the web and we are envious of your trails. What we would like to do
is come out west next year, 2002, and ride with you folks. We have a
tractor and trailer rig that can haul 7 jeeps for us. Our first
question to the club is, when is a good time of year to come out and
ride? We are working on changing the rigs from mud hounds into rock
crawlers and money is why we have to wait till next year. By
listening to the other members advice to each other on what works and
what doesn't we are getting a clearer picture of the changes we need
to make back here.
Thanks in advance for you information
Eric Hermann
25154 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 6:43pm
Subject: RE: Tonneau is done
Jon,
It seems that with every passing day; your Jeep is turning into a full scale rock-crawler...
The new cover looks great!
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Loveless [mailto:jonloveless@mindspring.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 10:06 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Tonneau is done
The steel Tonneau by Bill Aylesworth is now complete. It is welded to the body behind the seats, bolted through the rear roll bar and also bolted with 4 beefy tie-down hooks along the edge on both sides. I believe that you could lift the Jeep off the ground with the u-hooks.
<http://albums.photopoint.com/j/Reorder?u=22547&a=116247>
The top and the piece behind the seats has been Herculiner'd and the PowerTank and hi-lift are both bolted down. The last 2 pictures show a different way to manage your tow strap. I used 2 - 5" flanges and a piece of threaded 3" pipe. The inner flange is bolted to the Mountaineer Rack and the outer one screws on and off for access to the strap.
The top weld behind the seats has been capped with a piece of 1" angle aluminum and the rear has been sealed with the swing out door with a piece of 1" flat aluminum. The only thing that rattles now are the padlocks on the hi-lift.
Jon Loveless
(480) 816-6240
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
25130 From: <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Sat Jun 9, 2001 6:06pm
Subject: Tomken lifts
Does anyone run, (or know anyone who runs), a Tomken 4" lift for
a TJ? I am thinking that I like their Johnny Joint control arms,
which they buy the joint portion of from Currie Enterprises. They
are supposed to be totally rebuildable, and tough. The entire system
seems like a true bargain, as it has four coils, (progressively
wound), upper and lower control arms for front and rear, and related
hardware, like tcase spacers, sway bar discos, etc. Shocks, however,
are not included, but there are many good choices there. I am hoping
to get some feedback on the performance of Tomken's TJ system before
I buy ANY lift. I know that a lot of you TJ guys run either RE or
Tera, but I am partial to Tomken. Thoughts?
Lachlan
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25131 From: Dave King <kingd@d...>
Date: Sat Jun 9, 2001 6:27pm
Subject: Gila Monster??
where in the White Tanks is Gila Monster (the trail)??
we ran a new trail last night called Intimidator....if your going to run it
have a winch in your group, and plan on some body damage!
Dave King
25132 From: <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Sat Jun 9, 2001 6:46pm
Subject: Re: Gila Monster??
I started typing directions, then realized that even though I
went on this run today, I can't remember the road names to get you
there. Contact Dave O'Boyle (davidoboyle@h...) and he can
tell you, as he led this trip today. He pretty much discovered this
trail, to the best of my knowledge. What a fun run!
It's south of 10 off of Jackrabbit Trail, not to far from
Estrella Park.
Lachlan
In az_vjc@y..., "Dave King" <kingd@d...> wrote:
> where in the White Tanks is Gila Monster (the trail)??
>
> we ran a new trail last night called Intimidator....if your going
to run it
> have a winch in your group, and plan on some body damage!
>
> Dave King
25133 From: Peter Zuleger <azxjman@h...>
Date: Sat Jun 9, 2001 7:02pm
Subject: Fw: [arizonaXJ] Gila Monster Trail
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Zuleger
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 4:58 PM
To: xj list a
Subject: [arizonaXJ] Gila Monster Trail
Good run today. The trail is not all that long BUT it does have something for everyone. With a couple of places where one WOULD NEED ONE S.O.B OF A JEEP (+4.5)
Will post pictures soon
Moose
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25134 From: RICK BEER <RIKNAZ@M...>
Date: Sat Jun 9, 2001 7:33pm
Subject: OTS BUT FUNNYFw: FW: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd[2]:Halloween costume
----- Original Message -----
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25135 From: Keith D. Orr <korr@z...>
Date: Sat Jun 9, 2001 8:42pm
Subject: Transmission Trouble/FIXED!
Thanks to all,
I wanted to write and thank everyone who helped me with advice on my transmission problem. Come to find out after many stressful hours of troubleshooting,,
The set of vacuum lines that run down the fire wall to the transmission, half way down below the line of sight inside the wire loom, they were broken. So we replaced all the lines to the transmission and the ones to the 4x4 engaging valve unit on the front axle as well. Then, still not completely working right. We have the a/c and heater working now, but now it is running very rough and not shifting very well. Had the battery check, ( it was only 2 months old from Checker), and YEP!, the battery had a broken plate that was grounding out. Since the computer works on the closed electrical system, having the grounded plate the cycle of current was not complete. Change the battery and WOW! YES WOW!!
Gee that really seems not a hard fix now that you talk about it, but if you were to have asked me two days ago I would have said something much different.
It is great having friends not only to 4Wheel with, but also there to help out with our problems. I appreciate all of your help, and hope someday I can return the favor...........
Thank you,
Casper
25136 From: Dave King <kingd@d...>
Date: Sat Jun 9, 2001 8:54pm
Subject: last night
take a look at last nights fun...
look on the left for a link to Firebird a.k.a. Tax Collector and the new
trail...
http://hsp.rockcrawler.com
Dave King
25137 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Sat Jun 9, 2001 6:10pm
Subject: Trac bar
Last night I got a rather nice surprise...it seems that the bracket that
holds the rear trac bar to the axle broke! The weld on one side had broken
and the other side just snapped in two, has anybody else had this problem and
where can I get a new trac bar bracket?
any help would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
Sharky
25138 From: Keith D. Orr <korr@z...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 2:13am
Subject: Safford 4x4 Event!
Hello Gang,
I thought I would pass along a possibility and information to the group. I didn't know about this event until tonight, and of course it was to late by then to do anything.
Oh well, today here in Safford at the Gila raceway there as a 4x4 event held. It had three separate events for those that entered. The cost was 15.00 to participate. There was the pulling contest, and the mud bogg contest and the obstacle course. All rigs are competing in their own class = Full size, suv's, etc. I am not sure of the exact classification as of yet, but I will get the information this next week and post it for all to read. I understand that the obstacle challenge is very much a challenge. Those that I talked to say it was great! A friend of ours running in the Full size class won first prize in the mud bogg contest and won 175.00 in cash. I understand that there is going to be another challenge in July. I do not know the dates or any other information as of yet. It is a very organized activity with plenty of seating in the stands.
Well, the reason I am writing you all is because I have been working on setting up an overnight run here in Safford, and thought I would pass this on to you all to see if any of you would like to make this activity part of our fun. We could do the challenge before or after the run, or we could do the run on a separate day completely. Knock this around and talk about it as a club, and in the mean time I will get the complete information on the 4x4 event. It would sure look great having our club all lined up during the event for the show and shine. There will other clubs there of course, Gila Monsters, SideWinders to name a few. I would like to see other clubs from Tucson come over to do the same.
Oh BTW, I have heard that a stock Cherokee took first in the mud bogg for his class, but you know how rumors are; I will find out the facts tomorrow.
Thanks Gang,
Casper
87 XJ, 7" lift, locked, etc, etc, and ready to go!!!!!!!!!
25139 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 6:43am
Subject: RE: Trac bar
Sharky,
Lot's of us have had the exact same problem. I welded mine back up before
the bracket broke... as did Doug Ballard, Chris Krieg... EVERYONE who wheels
with their TJ NEEDS and has a 3+ lift on it needs to go out RIGHT NOW and
look at their rear trackbar bracket where it attaches to the rear
differential housing. All of the broken ones I've seen start cracking on
the drivers side outside edge where the bracket is welded to the axle.
GO NOW!!! I guarantee some of you have this bracket broken... check it
before it does what Sharky's did.
Joe West
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sharxjeep@c... [mailto:sharxjeep@c...]
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 10:11 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Trac bar
>
>
> Last night I got a rather nice surprise...it seems that the
> bracket that
> holds the rear trac bar to the axle broke! The weld on one
> side had broken
> and the other side just snapped in two, has anybody else had
> this problem and
> where can I get a new trac bar bracket?
> any help would be greatly appreciated
> Thanks
> Sharky
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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25140 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 7:10am
Subject: Re: Trac bar
Excellent advise. A lot of stress is focused on that single bracket, and on
the right upper rear "frame" bracket. I've seen both brake...frequently. My
frame side broke off and my axle side was cracking. Reinforcing them is
smart preventative maintenance...cause you'll need to do it sooner or later.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...>
To: <sharxjeep@c...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 6:43 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Trac bar
> Sharky,
>
> Lot's of us have had the exact same problem. I welded mine back up before
> the bracket broke... as did Doug Ballard, Chris Krieg... EVERYONE who
wheels
> with their TJ NEEDS and has a 3+ lift on it needs to go out RIGHT NOW and
> look at their rear trackbar bracket where it attaches to the rear
> differential housing. All of the broken ones I've seen start cracking on
> the drivers side outside edge where the bracket is welded to the axle.
>
> GO NOW!!! I guarantee some of you have this bracket broken... check it
> before it does what Sharky's did.
>
>
> Joe West
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sharxjeep@c... [mailto:sharxjeep@c...]
> > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 10:11 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Trac bar
> >
> >
> > Last night I got a rather nice surprise...it seems that the
> > bracket that
> > holds the rear trac bar to the axle broke! The weld on one
> > side had broken
> > and the other side just snapped in two, has anybody else had
> > this problem and
> > where can I get a new trac bar bracket?
> > any help would be greatly appreciated
> > Thanks
> > Sharky
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
25141 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 7:33am
Subject: Help Needed please
Hi all,
I need a favor from someone out there. Dion and I ran Predator last
night and it claimed a victim! Actually, it claimed 3 total, 2 on the
first obsticle, and then me at the very end! I didn't even have a problem
on the hard lines! I cought my Drag link on a rock, and now it looks like
the "golden arches"! Does anyone out there have a spare drag link that I
can barrow untill I can get OR-Fab to build me a new one? If you already
have the OR-Fab setup, do you still have the original that I can use?
Thanks!!
BTW, Flexyxj was out on another trail, with Keith, Hackle, and a couple
others that I can not recall names, but they all helped out on my Jeep
after they finished Terminator. I tell you, this is the BEST club,
everybody was willing and DID help out on the trial. Flexy came up and
adjusted my front end so I can get home. I did 45 the whole way home, I
did not want to get "death wobble", so I found my comfort spot and just
took my time getting home.
THANKS for all of your help last night!!!!!
Please give me a call if you have a spare that I can use.
480-628-0204
I am at 40th street and Bell, but I will travel any where in the valley.
=====
Mike Baney
2001 TJ
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25142 From: Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 10:05am
Subject: Tonneau is done
The steel Tonneau by Bill Aylesworth is now complete. It is welded to the body behind the seats, bolted through the rear roll bar and also bolted with 4 beefy tie-down hooks along the edge on both sides. I believe that you could lift the Jeep off the ground with the u-hooks.
<http://albums.photopoint.com/j/Reorder?u=22547&a=116247>
The top and the piece behind the seats has been Herculiner'd and the PowerTank and hi-lift are both bolted down. The last 2 pictures show a different way to manage your tow strap. I used 2 - 5" flanges and a piece of threaded 3" pipe. The inner flange is bolted to the Mountaineer Rack and the outer one screws on and off for access to the strap.
The top weld behind the seats has been capped with a piece of 1" angle aluminum and the rear has been sealed with the swing out door with a piece of 1" flat aluminum. The only thing that rattles now are the padlocks on the hi-lift.
Jon Loveless
(480) 816-6240
25143 From: Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 10:10am
Subject: Tonneau URL
Sorry, the URL for the photos should be:
<http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=22547&a=13224277&p=50129113>
Jon Loveless
(480) 816-6240
25144 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 10:30am
Subject: RE: Tonneau is done
Jon,
That is a nice looking tonneau there. My compliments to Bill....a first class job in deed.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Loveless [mailto:jonloveless@mindspring.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 10:06 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Tonneau is done
The steel Tonneau by Bill Aylesworth is now complete. It is welded to the body behind the seats, bolted through the rear roll bar and also bolted with 4 beefy tie-down hooks along the edge on both sides. I believe that you could lift the Jeep off the ground with the u-hooks.
<http://albums.photopoint.com/j/Reorder?u=22547&a=116247>
The top and the piece behind the seats has been Herculiner'd and the PowerTank and hi-lift are both bolted down. The last 2 pictures show a different way to manage your tow strap. I used 2 - 5" flanges and a piece of threaded 3" pipe. The inner flange is bolted to the Mountaineer Rack and the outer one screws on and off for access to the strap.
The top weld behind the seats has been capped with a piece of 1" angle aluminum and the rear has been sealed with the swing out door with a piece of 1" flat aluminum. The only thing that rattles now are the padlocks on the hi-lift.
Jon Loveless
(480) 816-6240
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25145 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 10:56am
Subject: Re: Tonneau URL
Pretty neat!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Jon Loveless
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 10:10 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Tonneau URL
Sorry, the URL for the photos should be:
<http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=22547&a=13224277&p=50129113>
Jon Loveless
(480) 816-6240
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25146 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 6:50am
Subject: Re: Trac bar
You guys nailed on the head. It is a toss up between what I fix more, the
older YJ shock mounts, or Track bars. While we are on the subject here a
couple other "problem"spots I have noticed.(While not as common, it is still
something you should check)
* On any jeep that has a control arm, check the backet to the axle. If you
dont have joints in your controlarms, and do a lot of wheeling, you should
pay extar attention to these.
* Also, I have seen some Cherokees, and a few Grand Cherokee were the
brackes to the unibody was tearing out. Same thing as above, no joint, better
check .
* The older YJ rear axle lower shcok tabs. These things love to break.
Cause.. to much wheel travel and shocks are too short or a the shocks are to
stiff on the up cycle..
The good news if any of these things do happen, cheap and easy fix for most
of them. The sooner you catch it, the cheapr and quicker it will be to fix.
While you are down looking, give everything a check,look for leaks,
rattles, loos u-joints. Haveing a driveshaft fall off on the way to work
really sucks. Dont ask me how I know.. I dont want to talk about it.
John K
Hunter
25147 From: Rick Hall <ricknhall@h...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 11:51am
Subject: Fw: Scrambler hardtop for sale.
I post stuff like this when I find it. If it's clutter I'll stop.
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Gemmill" <jimgem@w...>
Newsgroups: az.forsale
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 11:24 AM
Subject: Scrambler hardtop for sale.
> One black Scrambler hardtop for sale. Includes bulkhead. Good
> condition. Located in Arizona, shipping is not
> practical. $350. (Sure I'll negotiate)
>
> One roll bar for '51 Willys. $50
25148 From: Scott Legge <scottlegge@h...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 1:49pm
Subject: dumb newbie question...
Are there archives posted on the net anywhere? I looked on the website
before asking but didn't see anything I am sure there is a way to do it
through the yahoo list server but have been unable to see. TIA
Scott Legge
25149 From: Daddy Longlegs <osmtj@y...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 2:47pm
Subject: Re: Trac bar
Sharky,
Didn't you read my warning post about 8 weeks ago? This has happened to me and countless others in the past. I had Bill Mish repair it for me. This area is very prone to failure so I recommend everybody keep an eye on their welds and if your running big tires reinforce this area.
Good luck!
Scott
sharxjeep@cs.com wrote:
Last night I got a rather nice surprise...it seems that the bracket that
holds the rear trac bar to the axle broke! The weld on one side had broken
and the other side just snapped in two, has anybody else had this problem and
where can I get a new trac bar bracket?
any help would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
Sharky
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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25150 From: <jeeperaz@q...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 4:24pm
Subject: Boggers vs TSL SX's
I dont know anyone who's running boggers and have never seen them in
action on the trail.
Does anyone know how well they perform on AZ rocks compared to TSL
SX's?
25151 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 0:40pm
Subject: Re: Trac bar
Well the Jeep is up and running now with all the control arms and trac bars
secure hehehe I must have missed your post Scott. Mike over at Roc Rat
Armor got me all put back together and we did reinforce it also (I highly
recommend it now). I think it must have broken on Upper Tax Collector and
finished last night. Im very glad that it didnt cut loose on the trail
concidering that the control arm went with it. We live and we learn. Thanks
to everyone who responded with advice :)
Happy trails and hope to see you soon
Sharky
25152 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 5:19pm
Subject: Re: dumb newbie question...
Yes - go to the Yahoo site and all the messages should be there. I think you
can get to it also from the AzVJC site www.azvjc.org
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Legge" <scottlegge@h...>
To: "AZVJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 1:49 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] dumb newbie question...
> Are there archives posted on the net anywhere? I looked on the website
> before asking but didn't see anything I am sure there is a way to do it
> through the yahoo list server but have been unable to see. TIA
>
> Scott Legge
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
25153 From: <jpneric@t...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 6:06pm
Subject: Planning trip to Az next year
This is a general question to all members. A group of us from Florida
have been looking at your scenery for a long time view magazines and
the web and we are envious of your trails. What we would like to do
is come out west next year, 2002, and ride with you folks. We have a
tractor and trailer rig that can haul 7 jeeps for us. Our first
question to the club is, when is a good time of year to come out and
ride? We are working on changing the rigs from mud hounds into rock
crawlers and money is why we have to wait till next year. By
listening to the other members advice to each other on what works and
what doesn't we are getting a clearer picture of the changes we need
to make back here.
Thanks in advance for you information
Eric Hermann
25154 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 6:43pm
Subject: RE: Tonneau is done
Jon,
It seems that with every passing day; your Jeep is turning into a full scale rock-crawler...
The new cover looks great!
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Loveless [mailto:jonloveless@mindspring.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 10:06 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Tonneau is done
The steel Tonneau by Bill Aylesworth is now complete. It is welded to the body behind the seats, bolted through the rear roll bar and also bolted with 4 beefy tie-down hooks along the edge on both sides. I believe that you could lift the Jeep off the ground with the u-hooks.
<http://albums.photopoint.com/j/Reorder?u=22547&a=116247>
The top and the piece behind the seats has been Herculiner'd and the PowerTank and hi-lift are both bolted down. The last 2 pictures show a different way to manage your tow strap. I used 2 - 5" flanges and a piece of threaded 3" pipe. The inner flange is bolted to the Mountaineer Rack and the outer one screws on and off for access to the strap.
The top weld behind the seats has been capped with a piece of 1" angle aluminum and the rear has been sealed with the swing out door with a piece of 1" flat aluminum. The only thing that rattles now are the padlocks on the hi-lift.
Jon Loveless
(480) 816-6240
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.