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24554 From: Justin <jdeddinger@h...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 7:26pm
Subject: pics from broken arrow
here some pics from the memorial day run at broken arrow
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1703701&a=13087613&f=0
enjoy.
thanks to everyone that came, we had a great time.
jeepless justin(kid in the green xj)
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24555 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 8:21pm
Subject: Re: A word or two about Trail Etiquette...
Well sheat. Actually, I'm the son of a sailor...I can't help it. :o)
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...>
To: "'DougB'" <azjeep@h...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; <fmw@q...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 6:27 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] A word or two about Trail Etiquette...
> Potty Mouth!
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 2:20 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; fmw@q...
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] A word or two about Trail Etiquette...
> >
> >
> > Damn!
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <fmw@q...>
> > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 1:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] A word or two about Trail Etiquette...
> >
> >
> > > Besides, cursing on the CB is illegal :)
> > >
> > >
> > > At 01:24 PM 05/29/2001 -0700, tomasr@a... wrote:
> > > >"Chris R." wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Please consider others when in a group and keep the
> > volume and cussing
> > > >> to a minimum.
> > > >
> > > >Especially when there are children along!
> > > >Our sport is a family sport - right?
> > > >
> > > >-Roger
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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24556 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 8:21pm
Subject: Re: Powertrax No-Slip
If you have a 2001, you may have trouble with the axles being to long
which makes the locker not fit properly. The cross shaft will not go
through if the axles are too long. Your options are to pull the
locker back out and grind the ends of the axles that go into the
locker to make them shorter, or make 2 sides flat on the cross shaft
for it to clear (similar in look to the stock cross shaft). The only
thing that sucks it that it will be the last step of the entire
install before you can actually find out, no way to test it
beforehand, and pulling the springs out then getting the c-clips to
fall back out CAN be PIA, but not neccessarily. The first time I put
a No-Slip in was in a 2001 TJ with D35 and I had this problem. Also
had the same problem with a different rear end but am not sure about
what year it was. I seem to be the only one with this problem, but
Dan Siegel can testament to the fact that it did present a problem.
When you do get to the cross shaft install, do not force it in, it
should go easily with a light tapping of a hammer. If you force it
in, and the locker breaks, Powertrax can tell and will not warranty
the locker (their words, not mine).
Also, use LOTS of grease to hold the parts together when installing
it, really helps cause you have to have things lined up perfectly, or
it won't go together right. Make sure you have the right closed end
wrench to get the pinion shaft bolt out. My 2000 TJ's bolt takes a
different size wrench then my gf's 2001 TJ. If you don't have the
right ones, I do let me know if you need to borrow them to find out
which is the right size, DO NOT force it in or out, stripping that
bolt or the threads could easily mean a new carrier. Mine takes a
1/4" 12 point wrench, and my gf's takes a 6mm (approx .24") 12 point
wrench, or vice versa I don't rememeber, either way I have both now!
Doing it yourself is good, cause if you break an axle (likely with
the D35) knowing how to take it apart and put it back together again
on the trail can be a real lifesaver.
Good luck.
Dan
--- In az_vjc@y..., jeepindog@y... wrote:
> I just bought a Powertrax No-Slip for the Dana 35 and I'm
going
> to drop it into the TJ on Friday. Any suggestions from anyone
about
> the install? It looks pretty straight forward (no pun intended) so
I
> think I'm all set. I plan on upgrading those shafts to the Moser
> cromo set soon...
>
> BTW, I got the locker at Desert Rat, and the manager there
said
> that he would hook me up w/ a discount for this club's membership.
I
> didn't know Desert Rat did that, but was pleasantly surprised.
> Thanks, Desert Rat.
>
> Lachlan
24557 From: Eric Herring <herring@q...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 8:37pm
Subject: RE: Exhaust question..
Get a flowmaster. I have a 3 chamber deltaflow & high flow cat on my XJ &
love it. It's also the most durable muffler you'll ever see, the thing is
made of like 3/16 steel.
Eric Herring 92XJ
BTW thanks to everyone for the Broken Arrow run we had a blast.
-----Original Message-----
From: James Smith [mailto:jeepinsmitty@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 11:33 AM
To: azvjc
Subject: [az_vjc] Exhaust question..
Ok, after yestedays, Broken Arrow, run.
I nioticed I whacked my Stock Muffler, pretty good,
and pushed it back even further, The weld after the
CAT conv. was already cracked, and now it is pushed
back atleast another inch. So now it is time to go
ahead and get a new muffler and maybe exhaust too not
sure if when I pushed the muffler it pinched the
exhaust pipe. I did notice a loss of power on the way
home.
I was thinking of a CAT back, from Borla maybe.
Any toher suggestions woudl be greatly appreciated.
Also on where I could pick one up for a decent price!
Thanks a Bunch!
Smitty
95 YJ
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24558 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 8:58pm
Subject: Re: the final word or two about Trail Etiquette...
The NTD night run has been posted in the azvjc calendar.
http://www.azvjc.org/interact.asp?T=142
Linda
"Chris R." wrote:
>
> This coming Saturday Night, Tax Collector. I am still waiting on some
> information from Linda.
>
> Chris
> http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
> My1stJeep@e...
> '97 TJ
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>
> On Tue, 29 May 2001 17:30:31 EDT, aphrodsyak@a... wrote:
>
> > Ok so light get in mirrors. No matter how far back you are. you go up
> and
> > down and at some point in time they are going to point at the person in
> front
> > of you. it going to hit the mirrors and hit their eyeballs.
> >
> > Being that we need to see to avoid tearing up our own vehicles lights
> are a
> > must. People know that and know on night runs that they are going to
> have to
> > deal with it.
> >
> > alot of talk about whats necessary and all
> >
> > ONE thing that isn't necessary is mirrors. If you'd point them away
> from
> > your eyes. the light from behind wont hit you. and being that we dont
> worry
> > about lane changes and all. I think we'll be ok.
> >
> > SEEMS simple doesn't it. ok solved that issue whens the next night
> > run???
> >
> >
> >
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24559 From: <martinida@a...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 9:27pm
Subject: Broken upper control arm bracket
Today on a nice easy run up to Crown King I busted my drivers side
rear upper control arm bracket off. I dropped it off at the dealer @
1830 to see if they would repair/replace under warranty. No word
until my normal service advisor comes in tomorrow. If I were a
betting man I'd say I will be getting a new housing ordered from DTD
tomorrow afternoon. Any suggestions on how to put a fix in place
until it arrives? I have a D35c in the rear now.
Thanks,
Martin
97 Sport
24560 From: blake shepherd <blake@b...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 9:38pm
Subject: RE: Broken upper control arm bracket
If you are expecting to get this covered by warranty, don't hold your
breath. Dealers LOVE to tell us jeepers that our mods have voided the
warranty. Just today, I took my '01 TJ back to Bill Luke to have them check
on a vibration. Luckily, I "anonymously" called my service advisor to ask
him if my 31" tires with no lift would void the warranty. The TJ is only
two weeks old with 1700 miles. He (the service advisor) told me that the
31" tires WOULD void my warranty on anything drive train related. I had to
put the stock 205/75's back on just to drive it to the dealer.
Blake
80CJ5
01 TJ
-----Original Message-----
From: martinida@a... [mailto:martinida@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 9:28 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Broken upper control arm bracket
Today on a nice easy run up to Crown King I busted my drivers side
rear upper control arm bracket off. I dropped it off at the dealer @
1830 to see if they would repair/replace under warranty. No word
until my normal service advisor comes in tomorrow. If I were a
betting man I'd say I will be getting a new housing ordered from DTD
tomorrow afternoon. Any suggestions on how to put a fix in place
until it arrives? I have a D35c in the rear now.
Thanks,
Martin
97 Sport
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24561 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 10:07pm
Subject: Re: Broken upper control arm bracket
Who's your dealer? Earnhardt's sells Teraflex lifts in the parts
department and also has them installed. I was told by my service guy
there that my lift wouldn't void the warranty, and haven't had
problems (yet).
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., blake shepherd <blake@b...> wrote:
> If you are expecting to get this covered by warranty, don't hold
your
> breath. Dealers LOVE to tell us jeepers that our mods have voided
the
> warranty. Just today, I took my '01 TJ back to Bill Luke to have
them check
> on a vibration. Luckily, I "anonymously" called my service advisor
to ask
> him if my 31" tires with no lift would void the warranty. The TJ
is only
> two weeks old with 1700 miles. He (the service advisor) told me
that the
> 31" tires WOULD void my warranty on anything drive train related.
I had to
> put the stock 205/75's back on just to drive it to the dealer.
>
> Blake
> 80CJ5
> 01 TJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: martinida@a... [mailto:martinida@a...]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 9:28 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] Broken upper control arm bracket
>
>
> Today on a nice easy run up to Crown King I busted my drivers side
> rear upper control arm bracket off. I dropped it off at the dealer
@
> 1830 to see if they would repair/replace under warranty. No word
> until my normal service advisor comes in tomorrow. If I were a
> betting man I'd say I will be getting a new housing ordered from
DTD
> tomorrow afternoon. Any suggestions on how to put a fix in place
> until it arrives? I have a D35c in the rear now.
> Thanks,
> Martin
> 97 Sport
>
>
>
>
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24562 From: <yucca-man@j...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 10:13pm
Subject: Re: MY STOCK JEEP
You should have been around when we were still e-mailing each other
every message we had. By the time we got the first dozen members, I
was e-mailing TONS of text and cut-n-paste became my weapon of
choice. Thanks to Dan (revolvr) for getting us up to the first
mailing list.
As for your Jeep vs. girlfriend issue; if you can get your girl
involved with the Jeep you'll be able to buy her the meaningful
birthday/anniversary presents like nerf bars, onboard air, etc...
Jim Yucca-man
96 XJ (first time I've been a one-Jeep owner since 1994)
--- In az_vjc@y..., cmandrick@h... wrote:
> Hey gang,
>
> I remember when there were less than 300 members, and my first
> run being the white tanks run last March. For one week I thought
> every run the club did had at least 60 Jeeps on it, and I was
> amazed! LoL, I also remember everyone laughing at my P235/75 bald
> tires and stock EVERYTHING! I even had a donut spare tire. After
> lotsa money, work and more money, I have the Jeep I want for now
> until I get a better job. Sorry if I seem "Jeep arrogant" to some
of
> you, as some letters in my inbox state, but it is constructive
> criticism with no hard feelings meant. So take it easy and open a
> Jeep savings account. Just don't tell your girl how much more you
> spend on the Jeep then on her... = )~
>
>
> Chris M
> 87 YJ turd brown with stuff
24563 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 10:31pm
Subject: Re: Re: MY STOCK JEEP
Ahhh...those were the days....
----- Original Message -----
From: <yucca-man@j...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 10:13 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: MY STOCK JEEP
> You should have been around when we were still e-mailing each other
> every message we had. By the time we got the first dozen members, I
> was e-mailing TONS of text and cut-n-paste became my weapon of
> choice. Thanks to Dan (revolvr) for getting us up to the first
> mailing list.
>
> As for your Jeep vs. girlfriend issue; if you can get your girl
> involved with the Jeep you'll be able to buy her the meaningful
> birthday/anniversary presents like nerf bars, onboard air, etc...
>
> Jim Yucca-man
> 96 XJ (first time I've been a one-Jeep owner since 1994)
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., cmandrick@h... wrote:
> > Hey gang,
> >
> > I remember when there were less than 300 members, and my first
> > run being the white tanks run last March. For one week I thought
> > every run the club did had at least 60 Jeeps on it, and I was
> > amazed! LoL, I also remember everyone laughing at my P235/75 bald
> > tires and stock EVERYTHING! I even had a donut spare tire. After
> > lotsa money, work and more money, I have the Jeep I want for now
> > until I get a better job. Sorry if I seem "Jeep arrogant" to some
> of
> > you, as some letters in my inbox state, but it is constructive
> > criticism with no hard feelings meant. So take it easy and open a
> > Jeep savings account. Just don't tell your girl how much more you
> > spend on the Jeep then on her... = )~
> >
> >
> > Chris M
> > 87 YJ turd brown with stuff
>
>
>
>
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24564 From: Gary MacLaren <gmaclaren@c...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 10:31pm
Subject: fun run
Hey Guys and Gals, my Willys is built, and am going to do a easy shakedown cruise this Sat am. No specific trail, there is an area just off the I 10 near Casa grande that we will be riding in. This would be an ideal run for stock or near stock vehicles, as we won't be doing much in the way of hard, scary stuff. If you would like to get out and do something, while it is still cool, this would be the one to check out. E-mail me off list, and I will get back to you, with the particulars. Happy Jeepin
24565 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 11:14pm
Subject: Re: Broken upper control arm bracket
I doubt the dealer will cover this. I'd recommend that you take it to OR Fab. I have had them do this type of work for me in the past.
Scott
martinida@aol.com wrote:
Today on a nice easy run up to Crown King I busted my drivers side
rear upper control arm bracket off. I dropped it off at the dealer @
1830 to see if they would repair/replace under warranty. No word
until my normal service advisor comes in tomorrow. If I were a
betting man I'd say I will be getting a new housing ordered from DTD
tomorrow afternoon. Any suggestions on how to put a fix in place
until it arrives? I have a D35c in the rear now.
Thanks,
Martin
97 Sport
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24566 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2001 5:39am
Subject: [TR] Woodpecker (Lower) - Saturday, June 2, 2001
Hello All,
This is an automated message from the website, please do not reply to it!
John Butler is leading a Woodpecker (Lower) trail run on Saturday, June 2, 2001.
When: 4:30pm Saturday afternoon, June 2nd, 2001
Where: Texaco at Florence Junction.
Rating: 4.5-
Length: Open
CB Channel: 4
I have never run this trail. Scott Kruize has offered to lead. We plan on doing lower Woodpecker and if time permits upper Woodpecker also.
Lower Woodpecker is really more a "play" area then a "trail". It is very short in length but BIG on rocks. There are five or so different "paths" to take through this outcropping of rocks, some bigger than others, some more off camber than others. Sometimes there's water, sometimes not. It's different each time you traverse it but it definitely doesn't get easier.
There are full rock walls covered with pictographs. How wonderful it would be to know the story behind all of them.
Your camera is a must. Bring sun lotion and lots of water because you may spend some time watching your fellow wheeler struggle or climb or slide on the rocks. You can continue up through Upper Woodpecker if time permits, but that makes for a long day.
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
Click Here To Add Your Name to the List or For More Information
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
24567 From: <msa12171@a...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2001 7:27am
Subject: Re: Broken upper control arm bracket
Funny, I had the same thing happen to mine Sunday. It is the same
bracket that holds the track bar on the housing. I welded mine back
on for now and intend on adding a brace or two to support it.
Fortunately I was running Erics tires at the time and rubbed the
inside of the tire on the frame when it shifted. Thanks Eric! :)
Mike Anderson
24568 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2001 7:41am
Subject: Re: Re: Broken upper control arm bracket
The upper left rear is a real weak point. It's a good idea to truss it a
bit. I had mine crack at the axle housing and also broken at the frame
mount. For those that haven't reinforced theirs yet, it's a good idea to
keep an eye on it, or maybe do some preventative trussing.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: <msa12171@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 7:27 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Broken upper control arm bracket
> Funny, I had the same thing happen to mine Sunday. It is the same
> bracket that holds the track bar on the housing. I welded mine back
> on for now and intend on adding a brace or two to support it.
> Fortunately I was running Erics tires at the time and rubbed the
> inside of the tire on the frame when it shifted. Thanks Eric! :)
>
> Mike Anderson
>
>
>
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24569 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2001 7:56am
Subject: Re: Re: Broken upper control arm bracket
EXACTLY James, the only thing that gets voided is the obvious, what ever
parts you put on new. There is a service advisor at Earnhardts who has a
nice TJ, and he is my advisor! He told me that it does NOT void the
warrenty with a lift.
--- James Towle <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
>
> Who's your dealer? Earnhardt's sells Teraflex lifts in the parts
> department and also has them installed. I was told by my service guy
> there that my lift wouldn't void the warranty, and haven't had
> problems (yet).
>
> --James
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., blake shepherd <blake@b...> wrote:
> > If you are expecting to get this covered by warranty, don't hold
> your
> > breath. Dealers LOVE to tell us jeepers that our mods have voided
> the
> > warranty. Just today, I took my '01 TJ back to Bill Luke to have
> them check
> > on a vibration. Luckily, I "anonymously" called my service advisor
> to ask
> > him if my 31" tires with no lift would void the warranty. The TJ
> is only
> > two weeks old with 1700 miles. He (the service advisor) told me
> that the
> > 31" tires WOULD void my warranty on anything drive train related.
> I had to
> > put the stock 205/75's back on just to drive it to the dealer.
> >
> > Blake
> > 80CJ5
> > 01 TJ
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: martinida@a... [mailto:martinida@a...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 9:28 PM
> > To: az_vjc@y...
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Broken upper control arm bracket
> >
> >
> > Today on a nice easy run up to Crown King I busted my drivers side
> > rear upper control arm bracket off. I dropped it off at the dealer
> @
> > 1830 to see if they would repair/replace under warranty. No word
> > until my normal service advisor comes in tomorrow. If I were a
> > betting man I'd say I will be getting a new housing ordered from
> DTD
> > tomorrow afternoon. Any suggestions on how to put a fix in place
> > until it arrives? I have a D35c in the rear now.
> > Thanks,
> > Martin
> > 97 Sport
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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24570 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2001 8:15am
Subject: Re: Broken upper control arm bracket
And for all those who don't know, you can get your warranty work
switched to the dealer you want. I have done it before and it's
really no big deal.
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...> wrote:
> EXACTLY James, the only thing that gets voided is the obvious, what
ever
> parts you put on new. There is a service advisor at Earnhardts who
has a
> nice TJ, and he is my advisor! He told me that it does NOT void the
> warrenty with a lift.
>
>
> --- James Towle <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
> >
> > Who's your dealer? Earnhardt's sells Teraflex lifts in the parts
> > department and also has them installed. I was told by my service
guy
> > there that my lift wouldn't void the warranty, and haven't had
> > problems (yet).
> >
> > --James
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., blake shepherd <blake@b...> wrote:
> > > If you are expecting to get this covered by warranty, don't
hold
> > your
> > > breath. Dealers LOVE to tell us jeepers that our mods have
voided
> > the
> > > warranty. Just today, I took my '01 TJ back to Bill Luke to
have
> > them check
> > > on a vibration. Luckily, I "anonymously" called my service
advisor
> > to ask
> > > him if my 31" tires with no lift would void the warranty. The
TJ
> > is only
> > > two weeks old with 1700 miles. He (the service advisor) told
me
> > that the
> > > 31" tires WOULD void my warranty on anything drive train
related.
> > I had to
> > > put the stock 205/75's back on just to drive it to the dealer.
> > >
> > > Blake
> > > 80CJ5
> > > 01 TJ
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: martinida@a... [mailto:martinida@a...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 9:28 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Broken upper control arm bracket
> > >
> > >
> > > Today on a nice easy run up to Crown King I busted my drivers
side
> > > rear upper control arm bracket off. I dropped it off at the
dealer
> > @
> > > 1830 to see if they would repair/replace under warranty. No
word
> > > until my normal service advisor comes in tomorrow. If I were a
> > > betting man I'd say I will be getting a new housing ordered
from
> > DTD
> > > tomorrow afternoon. Any suggestions on how to put a fix in
place
> > > until it arrives? I have a D35c in the rear now.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Martin
> > > 97 Sport
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
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> 2001 TJ
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24571 From: Michael B. Wixom <mwixom@q...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2001 8:48am
Subject: Tire Pressure Re-visited
I know this has been a topic in the recent past, and I did pay attention to the post's. I just put 33x12.50-15 MT/R's on 8" rims and have been using the chalk method to get the pressures correct. I am down to 22 psi to get the full tread in contact with the road. My question is: Is there such a thing as to low for the road, and am I damaging the tire by running at this pressure. The jeep rides much better at this pressure, but I don't want to ruin the tires.
Michael B. Wixom
Quality Manager
Certified Inspection Service Co., Inc.
24572 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2001 8:54am
Subject: Re: Tire Pressure Re-visited
I have been messing with tire pressure too, I find that about 23 psi in my
33x12.50 on a 10" rim is using the full width, but it is also cutting my
gas milage in half! I can get about 220 miles on a full tank with the
pressure at 33 psi, and it is using *most* of the tread, but if I go down
to 25 psi, I get about 135 miles to a tank, and I am running full tread.
In my opinion, I would rather get the bettar gas milage, and let the tires
wear *slightly* than filling up 2 times a week with the price of gas now.
--- "Michael B. Wixom" <mwixom@q...> wrote:
> I know this has been a topic in the recent past, and I did pay attention
> to the post's. I just put 33x12.50-15 MT/R's on 8" rims and have been
> using the chalk method to get the pressures correct. I am down to 22 psi
> to get the full tread in contact with the road. My question is: Is there
> such a thing as to low for the road, and am I damaging the tire by
> running at this pressure. The jeep rides much better at this pressure,
> but I don't want to ruin the tires.
>
> Michael B. Wixom
> Quality Manager
> Certified Inspection Service Co., Inc.
>
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2001 TJ
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24573 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2001 9:07am
Subject: RE: Broken upper control arm bracket
Blake,
You might want to use the old Bidulph Jeep dealership at about 45th Ave. &
Glendale (not that far from Bill Luke on I-17?). I think it is now called
Glendale Automotive. They regularly sell lifted TJs (3" lift w/ 33" tires)
right off of that lot. I had several things worked on while I was still in
warrantee, and I was running 3" lift and 32" tires, 4.56 gears, etc. A
couple of the items with the front axle. They never once gave me an static
about being lifted.
Now...on the flip side of the coin, I was not totally impressed with their
work. I have had a few chats with the service manager, making him explain
why everything was not put back together when I came to pick up the vehicle.
This has happened to me on multiple occasions with both my TJ and XJ. He
doesn't like me very much.....I expect his people to do real work....not
half ***** work.....go figure.
Anyway.....it is an alternative to taking your tires off all of the time.
Stu
-----Original Message-----
From: blake shepherd [mailto:blake@b...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 9:38 PM
To: 'martinida@a...'; 'AZ_VJC'
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Broken upper control arm bracket
If you are expecting to get this covered by warranty, don't hold your
breath. Dealers LOVE to tell us jeepers that our mods have voided the
warranty. Just today, I took my '01 TJ back to Bill Luke to have them check
on a vibration. Luckily, I "anonymously" called my service advisor to ask
him if my 31" tires with no lift would void the warranty. The TJ is only
two weeks old with 1700 miles. He (the service advisor) told me that the
31" tires WOULD void my warranty on anything drive train related. I had to
put the stock 205/75's back on just to drive it to the dealer.
Blake
80CJ5
01 TJ
-----Original Message-----
From: martinida@a... [mailto:martinida@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 9:28 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Broken upper control arm bracket
Today on a nice easy run up to Crown King I busted my drivers side
rear upper control arm bracket off. I dropped it off at the dealer @
1830 to see if they would repair/replace under warranty. No word
until my normal service advisor comes in tomorrow. If I were a
betting man I'd say I will be getting a new housing ordered from DTD
tomorrow afternoon. Any suggestions on how to put a fix in place
until it arrives? I have a D35c in the rear now.
Thanks,
Martin
97 Sport
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24574 From: <fmw@q...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2001 9:10am
Subject: Re: Re: question about security
Lot's of places don't allow firearms.. My work place doesn't. Can't carry on
school grounds, in any place that serves alcohol, in any Federal Building,
blah, blah, blah.. So what's the problem.. Our local 4x4 club doesn't allow
the display of firearms (read, open carry) on any club functions.. I have no
problems with any of that.. You do have your CCW permit and carry not
exposed, right ??
The open display (read carry) of a firearm is viewed by many as an image
problem, and socially unacceptable in socal areas.. We're waaayyy past the
1800's ;)
I'm always armed, yet no one every knows.. I don't display in the open, I
never have to mention it. It's not something that I feel the need to brag
about. I currently have 4 firearms.. I've been "carrying" since the late
1960's and *NEVER* had to use or even draw (outside of time in the Army), so
I'm not concerned or worried..
At 11:14 PM 05/29/2001 -0700, Ray B. wrote:
>so it's safer in wal-mart than any other store?? then why won't they allow
LEGAL
>side-arms??? Paranoid maybe??
>
>fmw@q... wrote:
>
>> Yup, I really worry for my safety and life everytime I go into a
Wal-Mart.. :)
>>
>> At 01:51 PM 5/27/1 -0700, Ray B. wrote:
>> >Just a quick comment...I get pretty heated on the subject of guns!!!
>> >Use a gunsafe designed for one pistol (many on the market!!) and secure it
>> >well, and out of sight (under the seat is a good place to start). AND In
>> >regard to leaving it in your vehicle; you will discover very quickly if you
>> >carry at all that not all businesses understand our right to protect
>> >ourselves, and therefore do NOT allow weapons of any sort in their
>> >establishments. This said, you cannot ALWAYS keep it with you...Wal-Mart is
>> >a good example, often have signs near customer service that say NO FIREARMS
>> >!! Not my idea of good PR, but that's their problem, I do NOT patronize
>> >walmart unless it's an absolute necessity anymore. Ill get down from my
>> >soapbox now!
>> >
>> >
>> >cmandrick@h... wrote:
>> >
>> >> I would have to think it is not very responsible to leave a weapon
>> >> unattended in any place of a vehicle when parked. What if the car is
>> >> stolen? Eventually they will open everything looking for something
>> >> of value, even if it means a crowbar to open a lock-box. Keeping the
>> >> gun out of those hands means one less gun on the streets or in the
>> >> news. Just my two cents...
>> >>
>> >> Chris M
>> >>
>> >> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Hackle" <hackle@q...> wrote:
>> >> > Yeah I have the overhead console and I like it (it does
>> >> rattle some though)
>> >> > I never thought to use it for my gun though I may try that out. Jim
>> >> F.
>> >> >
>> >> > I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
>> >> > http://stk-yj.alloffroad.com/index.html
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: Dan [mailto:djweed@q...]
>> >> > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 5:51 PM
>> >> > To: az_vjc@y...
>> >> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: question about security
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > You might consider that overhead console Tuffy sells. It has two
>> >> > lockable compartments, ostensibly for stereo or CB, but seems like
>> >> one
>> >> > would be good for a gun.
>> >> >
>> >> > Anyone have one of these?
>> >> >
>> >> > -- Dan
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --- In az_vjc@y..., templar1@h... wrote:
>> >> > > The gun comment got me thinking. I am used to carrying a gun with
>> >> me
>> >> > > a lot of the time (concealed weapon permit etc) but now that I
>> >> have
>> >> > a
>> >> > > TJ I was wondering how secure is the stock console & glove box? I
>> >> > was
>> >> > > originally going to replace the center console with a tuffy but
>> >> now
>> >> > > that I have my jeep I really like the factory console. I have an
>> >> > > alarm with motion sensor going in the jeep today but will that and
>> >> > > the stock console be enough to keep my gun etc relatively safe
>> >> when
>> >> > I
>> >> > > have the top and doors off?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > -Mark
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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24575 From: <mike.chatfield@p...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2001 9:24am
Subject: Re: the final word or two about Trail Etiquette...
That should be:
http://www.azvjc.org/interact.asp?T=124
(Trip #142 is Mike A.'s Broken Arrow run)
One of the features I'm working on is a "reminder" button that will
allow the trip leader to send out a reminder e-mail from the website.
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., linda luik <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> The NTD night run has been posted in the azvjc calendar.
>
> http://www.azvjc.org/interact.asp?T=142
>
> Linda
>
>
> "Chris R." wrote:
> >
> > This coming Saturday Night, Tax Collector. I am still waiting on
some
> > information from Linda.
> >
> > Chris
> > http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
> > My1stJeep@e...
> > '97 TJ
> > ___
> > [___]
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> > =======
> > [||]----O--[||]
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > "He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask
remains a
> > fool forever."
> >
> > On Tue, 29 May 2001 17:30:31 EDT, aphrodsyak@a... wrote:
> >
> > > Ok so light get in mirrors. No matter how far back you are.
you go up
> > and
> > > down and at some point in time they are going to point at the
person in
> > front
> > > of you. it going to hit the mirrors and hit their eyeballs.
> > >
> > > Being that we need to see to avoid tearing up our own
vehicles lights
> > are a
> > > must. People know that and know on night runs that they are
going to
> > have to
> > > deal with it.
> > >
> > > alot of talk about whats necessary and all
> > >
> > > ONE thing that isn't necessary is mirrors. If you'd point
them away
> > from
> > > your eyes. the light from behind wont hit you. and being
that we dont
> > worry
> > > about lane changes and all. I think we'll be ok.
> > >
> > > SEEMS simple doesn't it. ok solved that issue whens the
next night
> > > run???
> > >
> > >
> > >
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24576 From: <msa12171@a...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2001 9:33am
Subject: Regear help...
I am going to regear and would like some suggestions. I have a 97 TJ
4 cyl. and want to step up to either a 4.56 or 4.88. Obviously the
4.88 would be better for wheeling and I will get more power, but it
is a little weaker. My question is; does anyone have 4.56's with
33's on a 4 cyl and what difference did you see? If you have
switched from 4.10 to 4.88, how is the freeway driving? The only
performance mod so far is a Poweraide TB spacer. I can get the
4.56's for almost half of the 4.88 price. Thanks for all help.
Mike
24577 From: Damon Gentile <dgentile@s...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2001 9:36am
Subject: Re: oil skid
Could you just cut a bunch of small pieces and weld them into a
more curved shape ?
I'd be afraid to modify the pan, since it does have to be flat up
top to mate to the block, and provide for good drainage to the sump.
I believe there is still a baffle in there too... At least there
was on the 86CJ I did a couple of weeks ago.
-d
Nick Notestine wrote:
>
> I would bend the metal to the shape of the oil pan but that process is way
> out of reach. A metal bender is way expensive. I would love to have one
> though! I don't want to reinforce it up to the engine because I don't want
> my pan to take a hit and crack my engine block. I was only thinking of
> 'reshaping' the pan on the bottom and up about 8 inches or so with the
> hammer. Not anywhere near the mount.
> Nick
>
>
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24578 From: Bryan Loveless <bryan.loveless@n...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2001 10:11am
Subject: Broken Arrow from Monday
I was there too, I got there a little late (as ya'll were pulling out). I was
in the Tan Rio Grande with the white "redneck" antenna. I also had my roomate
in the red Jeep following me. We caught up with you at submarine rock and
passed ya'll before chicken point. We thought about saying hi and joining
you, but we were "unhappy" with the unnessary risks a few took going way-way
off the trail (over the edge at chickenpoint). Perhaps this is the reason the
greenies want to keep us off the trails... Just because you can do something,
doesn't mean you should.
(stepping off soapbox)
Now my roomate is convinced he owns the best vehicle on earth. (Something I
am sure all of us already know...) We had a good time, and I hope everyone
else did too.
--Bryan
24554 From: Justin <jdeddinger@h...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 7:26pm
Subject: pics from broken arrow
here some pics from the memorial day run at broken arrow
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1703701&a=13087613&f=0
enjoy.
thanks to everyone that came, we had a great time.
jeepless justin(kid in the green xj)
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24555 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 8:21pm
Subject: Re: A word or two about Trail Etiquette...
Well sheat. Actually, I'm the son of a sailor...I can't help it. :o)
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...>
To: "'DougB'" <azjeep@h...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; <fmw@q...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 6:27 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] A word or two about Trail Etiquette...
> Potty Mouth!
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 2:20 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; fmw@q...
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] A word or two about Trail Etiquette...
> >
> >
> > Damn!
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <fmw@q...>
> > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 1:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] A word or two about Trail Etiquette...
> >
> >
> > > Besides, cursing on the CB is illegal :)
> > >
> > >
> > > At 01:24 PM 05/29/2001 -0700, tomasr@a... wrote:
> > > >"Chris R." wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Please consider others when in a group and keep the
> > volume and cussing
> > > >> to a minimum.
> > > >
> > > >Especially when there are children along!
> > > >Our sport is a family sport - right?
> > > >
> > > >-Roger
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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24556 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 8:21pm
Subject: Re: Powertrax No-Slip
If you have a 2001, you may have trouble with the axles being to long
which makes the locker not fit properly. The cross shaft will not go
through if the axles are too long. Your options are to pull the
locker back out and grind the ends of the axles that go into the
locker to make them shorter, or make 2 sides flat on the cross shaft
for it to clear (similar in look to the stock cross shaft). The only
thing that sucks it that it will be the last step of the entire
install before you can actually find out, no way to test it
beforehand, and pulling the springs out then getting the c-clips to
fall back out CAN be PIA, but not neccessarily. The first time I put
a No-Slip in was in a 2001 TJ with D35 and I had this problem. Also
had the same problem with a different rear end but am not sure about
what year it was. I seem to be the only one with this problem, but
Dan Siegel can testament to the fact that it did present a problem.
When you do get to the cross shaft install, do not force it in, it
should go easily with a light tapping of a hammer. If you force it
in, and the locker breaks, Powertrax can tell and will not warranty
the locker (their words, not mine).
Also, use LOTS of grease to hold the parts together when installing
it, really helps cause you have to have things lined up perfectly, or
it won't go together right. Make sure you have the right closed end
wrench to get the pinion shaft bolt out. My 2000 TJ's bolt takes a
different size wrench then my gf's 2001 TJ. If you don't have the
right ones, I do let me know if you need to borrow them to find out
which is the right size, DO NOT force it in or out, stripping that
bolt or the threads could easily mean a new carrier. Mine takes a
1/4" 12 point wrench, and my gf's takes a 6mm (approx .24") 12 point
wrench, or vice versa I don't rememeber, either way I have both now!
Doing it yourself is good, cause if you break an axle (likely with
the D35) knowing how to take it apart and put it back together again
on the trail can be a real lifesaver.
Good luck.
Dan
--- In az_vjc@y..., jeepindog@y... wrote:
> I just bought a Powertrax No-Slip for the Dana 35 and I'm
going
> to drop it into the TJ on Friday. Any suggestions from anyone
about
> the install? It looks pretty straight forward (no pun intended) so
I
> think I'm all set. I plan on upgrading those shafts to the Moser
> cromo set soon...
>
> BTW, I got the locker at Desert Rat, and the manager there
said
> that he would hook me up w/ a discount for this club's membership.
I
> didn't know Desert Rat did that, but was pleasantly surprised.
> Thanks, Desert Rat.
>
> Lachlan
24557 From: Eric Herring <herring@q...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 8:37pm
Subject: RE: Exhaust question..
Get a flowmaster. I have a 3 chamber deltaflow & high flow cat on my XJ &
love it. It's also the most durable muffler you'll ever see, the thing is
made of like 3/16 steel.
Eric Herring 92XJ
BTW thanks to everyone for the Broken Arrow run we had a blast.
-----Original Message-----
From: James Smith [mailto:jeepinsmitty@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 11:33 AM
To: azvjc
Subject: [az_vjc] Exhaust question..
Ok, after yestedays, Broken Arrow, run.
I nioticed I whacked my Stock Muffler, pretty good,
and pushed it back even further, The weld after the
CAT conv. was already cracked, and now it is pushed
back atleast another inch. So now it is time to go
ahead and get a new muffler and maybe exhaust too not
sure if when I pushed the muffler it pinched the
exhaust pipe. I did notice a loss of power on the way
home.
I was thinking of a CAT back, from Borla maybe.
Any toher suggestions woudl be greatly appreciated.
Also on where I could pick one up for a decent price!
Thanks a Bunch!
Smitty
95 YJ
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24558 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 8:58pm
Subject: Re: the final word or two about Trail Etiquette...
The NTD night run has been posted in the azvjc calendar.
http://www.azvjc.org/interact.asp?T=142
Linda
"Chris R." wrote:
>
> This coming Saturday Night, Tax Collector. I am still waiting on some
> information from Linda.
>
> Chris
> http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
> My1stJeep@e...
> '97 TJ
> ___
> [___]
> -(O|||||O)-
> =======
> [||]----O--[||]
> ----------------------------------------------------
> "He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a
> fool forever."
>
> On Tue, 29 May 2001 17:30:31 EDT, aphrodsyak@a... wrote:
>
> > Ok so light get in mirrors. No matter how far back you are. you go up
> and
> > down and at some point in time they are going to point at the person in
> front
> > of you. it going to hit the mirrors and hit their eyeballs.
> >
> > Being that we need to see to avoid tearing up our own vehicles lights
> are a
> > must. People know that and know on night runs that they are going to
> have to
> > deal with it.
> >
> > alot of talk about whats necessary and all
> >
> > ONE thing that isn't necessary is mirrors. If you'd point them away
> from
> > your eyes. the light from behind wont hit you. and being that we dont
> worry
> > about lane changes and all. I think we'll be ok.
> >
> > SEEMS simple doesn't it. ok solved that issue whens the next night
> > run???
> >
> >
> >
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>
> >
> >
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24559 From: <martinida@a...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 9:27pm
Subject: Broken upper control arm bracket
Today on a nice easy run up to Crown King I busted my drivers side
rear upper control arm bracket off. I dropped it off at the dealer @
1830 to see if they would repair/replace under warranty. No word
until my normal service advisor comes in tomorrow. If I were a
betting man I'd say I will be getting a new housing ordered from DTD
tomorrow afternoon. Any suggestions on how to put a fix in place
until it arrives? I have a D35c in the rear now.
Thanks,
Martin
97 Sport
24560 From: blake shepherd <blake@b...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 9:38pm
Subject: RE: Broken upper control arm bracket
If you are expecting to get this covered by warranty, don't hold your
breath. Dealers LOVE to tell us jeepers that our mods have voided the
warranty. Just today, I took my '01 TJ back to Bill Luke to have them check
on a vibration. Luckily, I "anonymously" called my service advisor to ask
him if my 31" tires with no lift would void the warranty. The TJ is only
two weeks old with 1700 miles. He (the service advisor) told me that the
31" tires WOULD void my warranty on anything drive train related. I had to
put the stock 205/75's back on just to drive it to the dealer.
Blake
80CJ5
01 TJ
-----Original Message-----
From: martinida@a... [mailto:martinida@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 9:28 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Broken upper control arm bracket
Today on a nice easy run up to Crown King I busted my drivers side
rear upper control arm bracket off. I dropped it off at the dealer @
1830 to see if they would repair/replace under warranty. No word
until my normal service advisor comes in tomorrow. If I were a
betting man I'd say I will be getting a new housing ordered from DTD
tomorrow afternoon. Any suggestions on how to put a fix in place
until it arrives? I have a D35c in the rear now.
Thanks,
Martin
97 Sport
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24561 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 10:07pm
Subject: Re: Broken upper control arm bracket
Who's your dealer? Earnhardt's sells Teraflex lifts in the parts
department and also has them installed. I was told by my service guy
there that my lift wouldn't void the warranty, and haven't had
problems (yet).
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., blake shepherd <blake@b...> wrote:
> If you are expecting to get this covered by warranty, don't hold
your
> breath. Dealers LOVE to tell us jeepers that our mods have voided
the
> warranty. Just today, I took my '01 TJ back to Bill Luke to have
them check
> on a vibration. Luckily, I "anonymously" called my service advisor
to ask
> him if my 31" tires with no lift would void the warranty. The TJ
is only
> two weeks old with 1700 miles. He (the service advisor) told me
that the
> 31" tires WOULD void my warranty on anything drive train related.
I had to
> put the stock 205/75's back on just to drive it to the dealer.
>
> Blake
> 80CJ5
> 01 TJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: martinida@a... [mailto:martinida@a...]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 9:28 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] Broken upper control arm bracket
>
>
> Today on a nice easy run up to Crown King I busted my drivers side
> rear upper control arm bracket off. I dropped it off at the dealer
@
> 1830 to see if they would repair/replace under warranty. No word
> until my normal service advisor comes in tomorrow. If I were a
> betting man I'd say I will be getting a new housing ordered from
DTD
> tomorrow afternoon. Any suggestions on how to put a fix in place
> until it arrives? I have a D35c in the rear now.
> Thanks,
> Martin
> 97 Sport
>
>
>
>
>
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24562 From: <yucca-man@j...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 10:13pm
Subject: Re: MY STOCK JEEP
You should have been around when we were still e-mailing each other
every message we had. By the time we got the first dozen members, I
was e-mailing TONS of text and cut-n-paste became my weapon of
choice. Thanks to Dan (revolvr) for getting us up to the first
mailing list.
As for your Jeep vs. girlfriend issue; if you can get your girl
involved with the Jeep you'll be able to buy her the meaningful
birthday/anniversary presents like nerf bars, onboard air, etc...
Jim Yucca-man
96 XJ (first time I've been a one-Jeep owner since 1994)
--- In az_vjc@y..., cmandrick@h... wrote:
> Hey gang,
>
> I remember when there were less than 300 members, and my first
> run being the white tanks run last March. For one week I thought
> every run the club did had at least 60 Jeeps on it, and I was
> amazed! LoL, I also remember everyone laughing at my P235/75 bald
> tires and stock EVERYTHING! I even had a donut spare tire. After
> lotsa money, work and more money, I have the Jeep I want for now
> until I get a better job. Sorry if I seem "Jeep arrogant" to some
of
> you, as some letters in my inbox state, but it is constructive
> criticism with no hard feelings meant. So take it easy and open a
> Jeep savings account. Just don't tell your girl how much more you
> spend on the Jeep then on her... = )~
>
>
> Chris M
> 87 YJ turd brown with stuff
24563 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 10:31pm
Subject: Re: Re: MY STOCK JEEP
Ahhh...those were the days....
----- Original Message -----
From: <yucca-man@j...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 10:13 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: MY STOCK JEEP
> You should have been around when we were still e-mailing each other
> every message we had. By the time we got the first dozen members, I
> was e-mailing TONS of text and cut-n-paste became my weapon of
> choice. Thanks to Dan (revolvr) for getting us up to the first
> mailing list.
>
> As for your Jeep vs. girlfriend issue; if you can get your girl
> involved with the Jeep you'll be able to buy her the meaningful
> birthday/anniversary presents like nerf bars, onboard air, etc...
>
> Jim Yucca-man
> 96 XJ (first time I've been a one-Jeep owner since 1994)
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., cmandrick@h... wrote:
> > Hey gang,
> >
> > I remember when there were less than 300 members, and my first
> > run being the white tanks run last March. For one week I thought
> > every run the club did had at least 60 Jeeps on it, and I was
> > amazed! LoL, I also remember everyone laughing at my P235/75 bald
> > tires and stock EVERYTHING! I even had a donut spare tire. After
> > lotsa money, work and more money, I have the Jeep I want for now
> > until I get a better job. Sorry if I seem "Jeep arrogant" to some
> of
> > you, as some letters in my inbox state, but it is constructive
> > criticism with no hard feelings meant. So take it easy and open a
> > Jeep savings account. Just don't tell your girl how much more you
> > spend on the Jeep then on her... = )~
> >
> >
> > Chris M
> > 87 YJ turd brown with stuff
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
24564 From: Gary MacLaren <gmaclaren@c...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 10:31pm
Subject: fun run
Hey Guys and Gals, my Willys is built, and am going to do a easy shakedown cruise this Sat am. No specific trail, there is an area just off the I 10 near Casa grande that we will be riding in. This would be an ideal run for stock or near stock vehicles, as we won't be doing much in the way of hard, scary stuff. If you would like to get out and do something, while it is still cool, this would be the one to check out. E-mail me off list, and I will get back to you, with the particulars. Happy Jeepin
24565 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 11:14pm
Subject: Re: Broken upper control arm bracket
I doubt the dealer will cover this. I'd recommend that you take it to OR Fab. I have had them do this type of work for me in the past.
Scott
martinida@aol.com wrote:
Today on a nice easy run up to Crown King I busted my drivers side
rear upper control arm bracket off. I dropped it off at the dealer @
1830 to see if they would repair/replace under warranty. No word
until my normal service advisor comes in tomorrow. If I were a
betting man I'd say I will be getting a new housing ordered from DTD
tomorrow afternoon. Any suggestions on how to put a fix in place
until it arrives? I have a D35c in the rear now.
Thanks,
Martin
97 Sport
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24566 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2001 5:39am
Subject: [TR] Woodpecker (Lower) - Saturday, June 2, 2001
Hello All,
This is an automated message from the website, please do not reply to it!
John Butler is leading a Woodpecker (Lower) trail run on Saturday, June 2, 2001.
When: 4:30pm Saturday afternoon, June 2nd, 2001
Where: Texaco at Florence Junction.
Rating: 4.5-
Length: Open
CB Channel: 4
I have never run this trail. Scott Kruize has offered to lead. We plan on doing lower Woodpecker and if time permits upper Woodpecker also.
Lower Woodpecker is really more a "play" area then a "trail". It is very short in length but BIG on rocks. There are five or so different "paths" to take through this outcropping of rocks, some bigger than others, some more off camber than others. Sometimes there's water, sometimes not. It's different each time you traverse it but it definitely doesn't get easier.
There are full rock walls covered with pictographs. How wonderful it would be to know the story behind all of them.
Your camera is a must. Bring sun lotion and lots of water because you may spend some time watching your fellow wheeler struggle or climb or slide on the rocks. You can continue up through Upper Woodpecker if time permits, but that makes for a long day.
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
Click Here To Add Your Name to the List or For More Information
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
24567 From: <msa12171@a...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2001 7:27am
Subject: Re: Broken upper control arm bracket
Funny, I had the same thing happen to mine Sunday. It is the same
bracket that holds the track bar on the housing. I welded mine back
on for now and intend on adding a brace or two to support it.
Fortunately I was running Erics tires at the time and rubbed the
inside of the tire on the frame when it shifted. Thanks Eric! :)
Mike Anderson
24568 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2001 7:41am
Subject: Re: Re: Broken upper control arm bracket
The upper left rear is a real weak point. It's a good idea to truss it a
bit. I had mine crack at the axle housing and also broken at the frame
mount. For those that haven't reinforced theirs yet, it's a good idea to
keep an eye on it, or maybe do some preventative trussing.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: <msa12171@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 7:27 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Broken upper control arm bracket
> Funny, I had the same thing happen to mine Sunday. It is the same
> bracket that holds the track bar on the housing. I welded mine back
> on for now and intend on adding a brace or two to support it.
> Fortunately I was running Erics tires at the time and rubbed the
> inside of the tire on the frame when it shifted. Thanks Eric! :)
>
> Mike Anderson
>
>
>
>
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24569 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2001 7:56am
Subject: Re: Re: Broken upper control arm bracket
EXACTLY James, the only thing that gets voided is the obvious, what ever
parts you put on new. There is a service advisor at Earnhardts who has a
nice TJ, and he is my advisor! He told me that it does NOT void the
warrenty with a lift.
--- James Towle <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
>
> Who's your dealer? Earnhardt's sells Teraflex lifts in the parts
> department and also has them installed. I was told by my service guy
> there that my lift wouldn't void the warranty, and haven't had
> problems (yet).
>
> --James
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., blake shepherd <blake@b...> wrote:
> > If you are expecting to get this covered by warranty, don't hold
> your
> > breath. Dealers LOVE to tell us jeepers that our mods have voided
> the
> > warranty. Just today, I took my '01 TJ back to Bill Luke to have
> them check
> > on a vibration. Luckily, I "anonymously" called my service advisor
> to ask
> > him if my 31" tires with no lift would void the warranty. The TJ
> is only
> > two weeks old with 1700 miles. He (the service advisor) told me
> that the
> > 31" tires WOULD void my warranty on anything drive train related.
> I had to
> > put the stock 205/75's back on just to drive it to the dealer.
> >
> > Blake
> > 80CJ5
> > 01 TJ
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: martinida@a... [mailto:martinida@a...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 9:28 PM
> > To: az_vjc@y...
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Broken upper control arm bracket
> >
> >
> > Today on a nice easy run up to Crown King I busted my drivers side
> > rear upper control arm bracket off. I dropped it off at the dealer
> @
> > 1830 to see if they would repair/replace under warranty. No word
> > until my normal service advisor comes in tomorrow. If I were a
> > betting man I'd say I will be getting a new housing ordered from
> DTD
> > tomorrow afternoon. Any suggestions on how to put a fix in place
> > until it arrives? I have a D35c in the rear now.
> > Thanks,
> > Martin
> > 97 Sport
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
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24570 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2001 8:15am
Subject: Re: Broken upper control arm bracket
And for all those who don't know, you can get your warranty work
switched to the dealer you want. I have done it before and it's
really no big deal.
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...> wrote:
> EXACTLY James, the only thing that gets voided is the obvious, what
ever
> parts you put on new. There is a service advisor at Earnhardts who
has a
> nice TJ, and he is my advisor! He told me that it does NOT void the
> warrenty with a lift.
>
>
> --- James Towle <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
> >
> > Who's your dealer? Earnhardt's sells Teraflex lifts in the parts
> > department and also has them installed. I was told by my service
guy
> > there that my lift wouldn't void the warranty, and haven't had
> > problems (yet).
> >
> > --James
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., blake shepherd <blake@b...> wrote:
> > > If you are expecting to get this covered by warranty, don't
hold
> > your
> > > breath. Dealers LOVE to tell us jeepers that our mods have
voided
> > the
> > > warranty. Just today, I took my '01 TJ back to Bill Luke to
have
> > them check
> > > on a vibration. Luckily, I "anonymously" called my service
advisor
> > to ask
> > > him if my 31" tires with no lift would void the warranty. The
TJ
> > is only
> > > two weeks old with 1700 miles. He (the service advisor) told
me
> > that the
> > > 31" tires WOULD void my warranty on anything drive train
related.
> > I had to
> > > put the stock 205/75's back on just to drive it to the dealer.
> > >
> > > Blake
> > > 80CJ5
> > > 01 TJ
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: martinida@a... [mailto:martinida@a...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 9:28 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Broken upper control arm bracket
> > >
> > >
> > > Today on a nice easy run up to Crown King I busted my drivers
side
> > > rear upper control arm bracket off. I dropped it off at the
dealer
> > @
> > > 1830 to see if they would repair/replace under warranty. No
word
> > > until my normal service advisor comes in tomorrow. If I were a
> > > betting man I'd say I will be getting a new housing ordered
from
> > DTD
> > > tomorrow afternoon. Any suggestions on how to put a fix in
place
> > > until it arrives? I have a D35c in the rear now.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Martin
> > > 97 Sport
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
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> 2001 TJ
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24571 From: Michael B. Wixom <mwixom@q...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2001 8:48am
Subject: Tire Pressure Re-visited
I know this has been a topic in the recent past, and I did pay attention to the post's. I just put 33x12.50-15 MT/R's on 8" rims and have been using the chalk method to get the pressures correct. I am down to 22 psi to get the full tread in contact with the road. My question is: Is there such a thing as to low for the road, and am I damaging the tire by running at this pressure. The jeep rides much better at this pressure, but I don't want to ruin the tires.
Michael B. Wixom
Quality Manager
Certified Inspection Service Co., Inc.
24572 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2001 8:54am
Subject: Re: Tire Pressure Re-visited
I have been messing with tire pressure too, I find that about 23 psi in my
33x12.50 on a 10" rim is using the full width, but it is also cutting my
gas milage in half! I can get about 220 miles on a full tank with the
pressure at 33 psi, and it is using *most* of the tread, but if I go down
to 25 psi, I get about 135 miles to a tank, and I am running full tread.
In my opinion, I would rather get the bettar gas milage, and let the tires
wear *slightly* than filling up 2 times a week with the price of gas now.
--- "Michael B. Wixom" <mwixom@q...> wrote:
> I know this has been a topic in the recent past, and I did pay attention
> to the post's. I just put 33x12.50-15 MT/R's on 8" rims and have been
> using the chalk method to get the pressures correct. I am down to 22 psi
> to get the full tread in contact with the road. My question is: Is there
> such a thing as to low for the road, and am I damaging the tire by
> running at this pressure. The jeep rides much better at this pressure,
> but I don't want to ruin the tires.
>
> Michael B. Wixom
> Quality Manager
> Certified Inspection Service Co., Inc.
>
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2001 TJ
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24573 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2001 9:07am
Subject: RE: Broken upper control arm bracket
Blake,
You might want to use the old Bidulph Jeep dealership at about 45th Ave. &
Glendale (not that far from Bill Luke on I-17?). I think it is now called
Glendale Automotive. They regularly sell lifted TJs (3" lift w/ 33" tires)
right off of that lot. I had several things worked on while I was still in
warrantee, and I was running 3" lift and 32" tires, 4.56 gears, etc. A
couple of the items with the front axle. They never once gave me an static
about being lifted.
Now...on the flip side of the coin, I was not totally impressed with their
work. I have had a few chats with the service manager, making him explain
why everything was not put back together when I came to pick up the vehicle.
This has happened to me on multiple occasions with both my TJ and XJ. He
doesn't like me very much.....I expect his people to do real work....not
half ***** work.....go figure.
Anyway.....it is an alternative to taking your tires off all of the time.
Stu
-----Original Message-----
From: blake shepherd [mailto:blake@b...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 9:38 PM
To: 'martinida@a...'; 'AZ_VJC'
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Broken upper control arm bracket
If you are expecting to get this covered by warranty, don't hold your
breath. Dealers LOVE to tell us jeepers that our mods have voided the
warranty. Just today, I took my '01 TJ back to Bill Luke to have them check
on a vibration. Luckily, I "anonymously" called my service advisor to ask
him if my 31" tires with no lift would void the warranty. The TJ is only
two weeks old with 1700 miles. He (the service advisor) told me that the
31" tires WOULD void my warranty on anything drive train related. I had to
put the stock 205/75's back on just to drive it to the dealer.
Blake
80CJ5
01 TJ
-----Original Message-----
From: martinida@a... [mailto:martinida@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 9:28 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Broken upper control arm bracket
Today on a nice easy run up to Crown King I busted my drivers side
rear upper control arm bracket off. I dropped it off at the dealer @
1830 to see if they would repair/replace under warranty. No word
until my normal service advisor comes in tomorrow. If I were a
betting man I'd say I will be getting a new housing ordered from DTD
tomorrow afternoon. Any suggestions on how to put a fix in place
until it arrives? I have a D35c in the rear now.
Thanks,
Martin
97 Sport
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24574 From: <fmw@q...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2001 9:10am
Subject: Re: Re: question about security
Lot's of places don't allow firearms.. My work place doesn't. Can't carry on
school grounds, in any place that serves alcohol, in any Federal Building,
blah, blah, blah.. So what's the problem.. Our local 4x4 club doesn't allow
the display of firearms (read, open carry) on any club functions.. I have no
problems with any of that.. You do have your CCW permit and carry not
exposed, right ??
The open display (read carry) of a firearm is viewed by many as an image
problem, and socially unacceptable in socal areas.. We're waaayyy past the
1800's ;)
I'm always armed, yet no one every knows.. I don't display in the open, I
never have to mention it. It's not something that I feel the need to brag
about. I currently have 4 firearms.. I've been "carrying" since the late
1960's and *NEVER* had to use or even draw (outside of time in the Army), so
I'm not concerned or worried..
At 11:14 PM 05/29/2001 -0700, Ray B. wrote:
>so it's safer in wal-mart than any other store?? then why won't they allow
LEGAL
>side-arms??? Paranoid maybe??
>
>fmw@q... wrote:
>
>> Yup, I really worry for my safety and life everytime I go into a
Wal-Mart.. :)
>>
>> At 01:51 PM 5/27/1 -0700, Ray B. wrote:
>> >Just a quick comment...I get pretty heated on the subject of guns!!!
>> >Use a gunsafe designed for one pistol (many on the market!!) and secure it
>> >well, and out of sight (under the seat is a good place to start). AND In
>> >regard to leaving it in your vehicle; you will discover very quickly if you
>> >carry at all that not all businesses understand our right to protect
>> >ourselves, and therefore do NOT allow weapons of any sort in their
>> >establishments. This said, you cannot ALWAYS keep it with you...Wal-Mart is
>> >a good example, often have signs near customer service that say NO FIREARMS
>> >!! Not my idea of good PR, but that's their problem, I do NOT patronize
>> >walmart unless it's an absolute necessity anymore. Ill get down from my
>> >soapbox now!
>> >
>> >
>> >cmandrick@h... wrote:
>> >
>> >> I would have to think it is not very responsible to leave a weapon
>> >> unattended in any place of a vehicle when parked. What if the car is
>> >> stolen? Eventually they will open everything looking for something
>> >> of value, even if it means a crowbar to open a lock-box. Keeping the
>> >> gun out of those hands means one less gun on the streets or in the
>> >> news. Just my two cents...
>> >>
>> >> Chris M
>> >>
>> >> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Hackle" <hackle@q...> wrote:
>> >> > Yeah I have the overhead console and I like it (it does
>> >> rattle some though)
>> >> > I never thought to use it for my gun though I may try that out. Jim
>> >> F.
>> >> >
>> >> > I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
>> >> > http://stk-yj.alloffroad.com/index.html
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: Dan [mailto:djweed@q...]
>> >> > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 5:51 PM
>> >> > To: az_vjc@y...
>> >> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: question about security
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > You might consider that overhead console Tuffy sells. It has two
>> >> > lockable compartments, ostensibly for stereo or CB, but seems like
>> >> one
>> >> > would be good for a gun.
>> >> >
>> >> > Anyone have one of these?
>> >> >
>> >> > -- Dan
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --- In az_vjc@y..., templar1@h... wrote:
>> >> > > The gun comment got me thinking. I am used to carrying a gun with
>> >> me
>> >> > > a lot of the time (concealed weapon permit etc) but now that I
>> >> have
>> >> > a
>> >> > > TJ I was wondering how secure is the stock console & glove box? I
>> >> > was
>> >> > > originally going to replace the center console with a tuffy but
>> >> now
>> >> > > that I have my jeep I really like the factory console. I have an
>> >> > > alarm with motion sensor going in the jeep today but will that and
>> >> > > the stock console be enough to keep my gun etc relatively safe
>> >> when
>> >> > I
>> >> > > have the top and doors off?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > -Mark
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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>> >>
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>> >
>> >
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24575 From: <mike.chatfield@p...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2001 9:24am
Subject: Re: the final word or two about Trail Etiquette...
That should be:
http://www.azvjc.org/interact.asp?T=124
(Trip #142 is Mike A.'s Broken Arrow run)
One of the features I'm working on is a "reminder" button that will
allow the trip leader to send out a reminder e-mail from the website.
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., linda luik <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> The NTD night run has been posted in the azvjc calendar.
>
> http://www.azvjc.org/interact.asp?T=142
>
> Linda
>
>
> "Chris R." wrote:
> >
> > This coming Saturday Night, Tax Collector. I am still waiting on
some
> > information from Linda.
> >
> > Chris
> > http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
> > My1stJeep@e...
> > '97 TJ
> > ___
> > [___]
> > -(O|||||O)-
> > =======
> > [||]----O--[||]
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > "He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask
remains a
> > fool forever."
> >
> > On Tue, 29 May 2001 17:30:31 EDT, aphrodsyak@a... wrote:
> >
> > > Ok so light get in mirrors. No matter how far back you are.
you go up
> > and
> > > down and at some point in time they are going to point at the
person in
> > front
> > > of you. it going to hit the mirrors and hit their eyeballs.
> > >
> > > Being that we need to see to avoid tearing up our own
vehicles lights
> > are a
> > > must. People know that and know on night runs that they are
going to
> > have to
> > > deal with it.
> > >
> > > alot of talk about whats necessary and all
> > >
> > > ONE thing that isn't necessary is mirrors. If you'd point
them away
> > from
> > > your eyes. the light from behind wont hit you. and being
that we dont
> > worry
> > > about lane changes and all. I think we'll be ok.
> > >
> > > SEEMS simple doesn't it. ok solved that issue whens the
next night
> > > run???
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24576 From: <msa12171@a...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2001 9:33am
Subject: Regear help...
I am going to regear and would like some suggestions. I have a 97 TJ
4 cyl. and want to step up to either a 4.56 or 4.88. Obviously the
4.88 would be better for wheeling and I will get more power, but it
is a little weaker. My question is; does anyone have 4.56's with
33's on a 4 cyl and what difference did you see? If you have
switched from 4.10 to 4.88, how is the freeway driving? The only
performance mod so far is a Poweraide TB spacer. I can get the
4.56's for almost half of the 4.88 price. Thanks for all help.
Mike
24577 From: Damon Gentile <dgentile@s...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2001 9:36am
Subject: Re: oil skid
Could you just cut a bunch of small pieces and weld them into a
more curved shape ?
I'd be afraid to modify the pan, since it does have to be flat up
top to mate to the block, and provide for good drainage to the sump.
I believe there is still a baffle in there too... At least there
was on the 86CJ I did a couple of weeks ago.
-d
Nick Notestine wrote:
>
> I would bend the metal to the shape of the oil pan but that process is way
> out of reach. A metal bender is way expensive. I would love to have one
> though! I don't want to reinforce it up to the engine because I don't want
> my pan to take a hit and crack my engine block. I was only thinking of
> 'reshaping' the pan on the bottom and up about 8 inches or so with the
> hammer. Not anywhere near the mount.
> Nick
>
>
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24578 From: Bryan Loveless <bryan.loveless@n...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2001 10:11am
Subject: Broken Arrow from Monday
I was there too, I got there a little late (as ya'll were pulling out). I was
in the Tan Rio Grande with the white "redneck" antenna. I also had my roomate
in the red Jeep following me. We caught up with you at submarine rock and
passed ya'll before chicken point. We thought about saying hi and joining
you, but we were "unhappy" with the unnessary risks a few took going way-way
off the trail (over the edge at chickenpoint). Perhaps this is the reason the
greenies want to keep us off the trails... Just because you can do something,
doesn't mean you should.
(stepping off soapbox)
Now my roomate is convinced he owns the best vehicle on earth. (Something I
am sure all of us already know...) We had a good time, and I hope everyone
else did too.
--Bryan